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Thanks for this! As a teenager, I was taught Abinidi was burned at a stake fireside. LOL I'm grateful to have a better understanding of his death. It was great to see Stephen Smoot. I haven't seen him since he was contributing to Pearl of Great Price Central. Nice to see him looking well and advancing his education. Kerry, thanks so much for your podcasts. i really appreciate them.

Thank you for these enlightening discussions! I appreciate the new insights presented by you and your guests. The old saying: the more I learn the more I realize I don’t know! certainly applies here! Thank you again for all of the time and effort you put forth to make these available. 😊

I love your podcast I watch on RUclips. Each week you have knowledgeable and wonderful teachers that along with your great knowledge and teaching abilities make the scriptures come alive and real. thank you thank you with all my heart for all you do.

Thank you for a better understanding of what's going on with whom...

I like the point you made that Limhi encourages his people through referring to God as "the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob," reminding them of God's covenant with Israel. Then he reminds them of the Exodus and Lehi's journey. It occurred to me that by bringing up both these events Limhi was bringing two witnesses of God's commitment and power to deliver. He's not just saying nice things to his people; he's giving them something very strong to hold on to.

Since they were successful in defeating the Lamanites when they turned to the Lord for help, I wonder if they could have lived there successfully if Zeniff had chosen someone other than Noah to succeed him. On the other hand the Lamanites were not likely to give up the desire to bring them into bondage. Just a wondering.

I did what you guys teach and looked up “teasing” in the 1828 Websters Dictionary. It defined it as “vexing with importunity“ Importunity: Pressing solicitation; urgent request; application for a claim or favor, which is urged with troublesome frequency or pertinacity. Makes sense!!!

Thanks so much brothers for helping me today to remember how blessed I am for seers today, gonna watch general conference exxtra in the next week. Also to remember, reflect and continue in faith in God as I navigate my own faith journey is my takeaway from Zenith. Solid gains, kia ora!❤

How humble Ammon was. That was enlightening; the fact Ammon is a Jew, a descendant of Zarahemla (Mulekites). Mulekites are Jews. They are brothers of the Nephites who are descendants of Joseph who was sold into Egypt.💗💗💗👍👍

It’s taken me three days to listen to this podcast. After each listening I read chapters 7-8 again. I’d already read them once. You pointed out so many things I missed. Now that I’ve completed listening I’m going to read it again. This podcast really does make the scriptures come alive to me. Thank you!

Thank you for addressing Ammon being a Mulekite. I have thought about this quite often over the years and came to much the same conclusion you spoke of; that it was due to the integration the Nephite Kings were able to bring about that Ammon was the leader. This was the first time that I have heard anyone speak about it. I must say that it sure is fun when the conclusions I reach on my own are supported by scholarly minds.

I’ve pondered what good came from Zeniff being drawn to go to the land of Lehi-Nephi and I think we can’t overlook the importance of finding the Jaradite record. Did they have to suffer and have all the bad stuff happen? Of course not. But God was moving them to find the plates and I think that is part of the reason Zeniff was so drawn to go. I also think it’s interesting that it was descendants of Mulek who wanted to go to Lehi-Nephi. They hadn’t ever lived there! It’s clear they didn’t even know the way to get there, because both groups get lost, and they don’t know how to get back. Why would these people want to go? Did they hear the stories of Nephi and really want to see the place he lived and the temple that he had built? Did they think that the Lamanites couldn’t be that bad because they hadn’t really had much interaction with them? There are no answers, but it fascinating to ponder.

Don't miss Mosiah 17:8. It matches Mosiah 7:27-28, in that they killed Abinadi because he said God will come down among men. Probably claimed this was blasphemy, and thus grounds for death. Also, interesting that they reject the condescension of God, which is so central to Nephi's great vision.

In following the theme of everyone isn’t all good or all bad, I have a different take on Zeniff & King Laman. What if we see Zeniff’s comments that King Laman was crafty & had planned to trap them all along as comments from someone who is rewriting history a bit with the new biases that come with time? It doesn’t make sense to me that King Laman would wait 12 yrs to enact his dastardly plan. Lose one battle and then wait another 22 years before trying again. It makes more sense that he is originally generous. He shares the land with the intention of living alongside the Nephites, but much like the later citizens of IL, gets worried at their numbers & strength. Possibly he sees that they’ll want more land or maybe there are some Nephite incursions. Idk that we can fully trust Zeniff’s descriptions bc he’s embroiled in war & regret & it’s easy to fall back on old biases.

I'm really just impressed by this whole narrative. A 'branch' goes to check on their previous homeland, are 'cut off' from the main group, get tricked into establishing a community so they can be taxed, they have a mini apostasy and cleansing (baptism) of the people, find an ancient record of another group who had broken off and made covenants with God, are led back to their people (grafted in) which makes the main group stronger by providing them someone who is called to establish the church throughout the land. This "side quest" has a major effect on the rest of the history of the people and the book which is later compiled by Mormon. I know that I'm not seeing everything in this but it's incredible to look at it from the 30,000' view.

I also, have more clarification of scriptures when I listen to this podcast. I look forward to hearing more every week.

Remember ...and at the exact same time ...remember

Dr Taggart- I grew up a punk rocker too! Great to see other punk rockers grow up to be disciples and followers of Christ! If you wanna jam sometime, let me know (ha ha) until then- this was a great episode! Thank you both!

Thank you for helping me see the timeline! I’m not confused like I was before. Kerry, I keep trying to get a copy of The Easter Connection. Will there be a reprinting?

I was fascinated to see the link of kingship of Ammon’s line. Thank you for sharing and discussing this with us.❤

The reason Zeniff is "overzealous" to return to the land of Nephi is because he is heartbroken. He CANNOT stay in Zarahemla. He feels terrible remorse for all of the deaths connected to his time as a spy for the Nephite army. He CANNOT face the many widows, fatherless children, etc. He is emotionally and probably psychologically scarred by his role in so many deaths. He cannot remain in Zarahemla and face those mourning people day after day and year after year. He cannot stay in Zarahemla. He has not leave and live somewhere else. It is natural for him to choose the land of Nephi and be "overzealous" to go there to live with hopefully some peace of mind and heart.

Thank you that was so fun, so good to have a good righteous comic to teach and entertain. Both of you are so personable helps me feel I have a study community. A great lot of comments this week, you guys are great to get in there and fellowship with us. This is my favourite post for that reason. You stimulated lots of thoughts for me this week, is Zenith a Nephite who descends from Ephraim? Does Ammon descend from Mulek who descends from Judah? Allergy of the Olive Tree gathering of Israel? Covenant blessings of Joseph and Judah through Jacob, Israel in play here? People who gather to and populate America have the God given charge to make Christ their king and then like Ammon are invited to go out and help the nations of the earth course correct by eliminating false traditions to follow the Lord through a covenant keeping relationship with Jesus Christ? The power that righteous Americans have with Prophets Seers in the land. Loved your comments of the value they are to all the people of the earth. Americans could be called immigrants from other lands but with a great opportunity to bless the world, just like you are doing. You have a blessing from the Lord your invitation to share learning is to multiply that God given talent. Thank you

I want to do a readers theater and the sound effect for king Lamen is Wha ha ha as he plots his evil designs

I always gain new insights about gospel doctrine and learn new things about the Gospel of Jesus Christ in your wonderful podcasts. Thank you both for your wisdom and preparation.

I have long wondered if Abinadi might have been Amaleki's brother.

I love hearing from Andrew Skinner! He gives me unique understandings of the scriptures.

I love how Ammon and the 16 men who journeyed with him were anxious to participate in the gathering of Israel in their day and that I can benefit from their example in mine.

A wonder I had listening to this session is, Who did King Mosiah II marry? Could it have been one of Zeniff’s daughters? This could explain the name Ammon. Just a speculation.

Thank you for helping me get all the characters straight in my head. I had read the chapters and was a bit confused with all the moving parts included. Btw, I enjoyed Lamar’s humor😊

Thank you for your consistent desire to help bring understanding and increase spiritual access to the scriptures. Also, thank you for your consistent message that this podcast does not replace personal scripture study. For me, I'm closest to the Spirit when doing my own personal scripture studies. However, when working out and when driving, it's amazing to have this content to remind me of the blessings I have received and understanding the events of the scriptures differently.

I’m sure there are tons out there- but do you guys have a link to a good Book of Mormon timeline or diagram to help keep all this straight? I went out for popcorn and now I’m lost I guess! 😂🍿

I always find something that brings clarity and help me connect the verses to my life. Your lessons are wonderful as always and very insightful. I'm especially able to connect With "too good to be true ". I didn't grow up in the church so I didn't get seminary lessons or institute. I have always yearned for a deep dive into the scriptures from scholars as yourself and now we can! I also appreciated the comment back to Jacob when he said look at the Lamanites- they're treating their families way better.

I love what this podcast adds to all the others I study the Book of Mormon with. Gives me a sense of attending religion class at BYU and a sense of community since I am in the Primary each week. (Which I love by the way!)

I love the episodes with Lamar!

I saw the trip of those looking for the lost Nephites in Lehi-Nephi as a metaphor for the leaders of the church seeking the lost. There were 16. The typical number of apostles in the church is 12 + 3 = 15 apostles. In this case, the leader Ammon, plays the role of Christ. His name even means God in Egyptian.

I love this discussion! I need to know how to love like God and become His heartbeat! ❤

This is such a beautiful podcast about the power of God 's love for each of us and for the imminent need for us to come to the aid of the poor and suffering people of this planet. ❤

I hear what you are saying, but boy, howdy, we can sure make it hard on each other to do that. Lol, seriously, I think you're right.

The Lord is over all His creation. At His voice everything obeys, if He knows how to govern the universe He knows how to help everyone. Thinking of what king Benjamin teaches of the Lord and who He is, strengthens my hope and trust that He can sort me.

Amen

AMAZING teachings in this lesson! I have read the scriptures for this week's Come Follow Me and as I came with my insights, I have been blown away by the two of you! I started this video yesterday, and now this morning I have made it to minute 11!!! I have Dr. Mulhestein's book, God Will Prevail, which is brilliant, and this morning I was led to go to Chapter 8, True Covenant Keeping and the Transformative Power of Christ. It is so perfect with our study this week and your teachings. Thank you SO much for helping me dive in deeply. Blessings, my brothers ❤

I am an "all is not well in Zion" Mormon but I did appreciate this discussion. And learned about Jacob 5. I agree Israel and its Zion is coming, ready or not. I disagree with one of the first things said however. The scriptures over and over and over and again some more verify that Jesus was the SON of the Old Testament Jehovah. It cannot be more clear. There is no Old Testament Father of Jehovah. An example: is in John 8:54 where Jesus point blank claims his Father is the God of the Jews. That means his Father is Jehovah. What confuses people is that the resurrected Jesus is the Jehovah for this earth. And speaks as Jehovah. So there are two Jehovahs in scripture. The doctrine of "Elohim" being the Father of Jehovah is not in any scripture. That is only a Temple doctrine. And Brigham, who prepared the endowment ceremony as directed by Joseph, taught that Michael and Jehovah were resurrected Beings in the creation. And Elohim is the Grandfather God. So the creation Jehovah is not Jesus. More about this: 2bc.info/pdf/Exposed.pdfSo the creation Jehovah is not Jesus. And Elohim

Thank you so much for this and every single episode. Always inspiring! I never miss one!

The transformative moment in my life was, being baptised and receiving the glorious gift of the Holy Ghost, feeling the increased light that comes through the Holy Ghost. I have been taught that the Holy Ghost is always giving a constant flow of revelation we just need to be tuned in to receive, when I am it is transformative. It doesn’t come as a great pillar of light for me, but ray by ray as Elder Alexander Dushku spoke about in his April Conference talk Pillars and Rays.

I think Dr. Taggart just summed up the entire law of consecration and the building up of Zion in one sentence. That, in order to build that new kingdom: we need to judge what is needed and not what is deserved.

Amen! Let’s keep on working in the vineyard

I really enjoyed the two of you! I hope you're able to have Dr. Taggart back soon!

I love your focus, but we must still also encourage a facilitate self reliance. The city of zion also has no takers, who only recieve.

Could you share the resource for the quote from Sister Okazaki please? That quote gave me new eyes to see how I can better serve. The song, I’m Trying to Be Like Jesus, is what’s going through my head after watching g this episode. Thank you both!

An excellent discussion on these critical teachings.