S3 E37 Brad Wilcox on Christ, Gathering, and the Hope of Israel in the Allegory (week of April 8)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
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In this episode Brad Wilcox and Kerry discuss the allegory of the Olive tree and all the amazing lessons to learn therefrom. They especially emphasize the gathering of Israel, and the amazing things happening in the Church and among youth today. They explore the role of Christ in the allegory and gathering and the way He nourishes us.
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A year ago I was called to be a seminary principal. I have admit that I wasn't too excited about the calling, but it truly has been life changing. These beautiful young adults have given me such hope for the future. Their love and dedication is awesome inspiring.
That is so wonderful to hear! So much hope as we look forward!
I watched this while basking in the post-conference glow. I have been a Jacob 5 skipper, but no more. Thank you, Brother Muhlestein and Brother Wilcox for helping to finally make this chapter real for me.
I am so happy to hear that it opened it up for you. So happy. Bless you!
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I was blessed with parents who never skipped chapters. I can remember my dad looking up grafting invisible encyclopedic dictionary, and showing me the drawings from it, when I was about four. My parents were always excited about the gathering of Israel, and I'm grateful for their faith and teaching!
You are blessed to have had such goodly parents. It makes such a difference. I hope we can all continue to learn and teach. Bless you!
Brilliant discussion. Bro. Wilcox's enthusiasm in heartening and encouraging. He occupies a unique place where he can see the most exciting things happening in the church (like the stats on visits to the Church's web site). Thank you for letting us be present for your inspiring chat.
It really was a wonderful exploration he led us on, wasn't it?
Your podcast on the vineyard helped me immensely to see God's mercy. He never gives up on us. At 76 I haven't realized how very patient and long suffering He is towards His children. I loved Elder Wilcox's explanation of why Israel is the chosen people. Makes total sense now. The details he gave as to the youth and how they are doing is so encouraging. Thank you!
This was such an encouraging episode, wasn't it?? We are all blessed to be able to learn from the scriptures and such wonderful discussions!
You have given me so much hope for the rising generation. I have felt the spirit of the gathering from your comments. Thanks for sharing these wise words. I love the scriptures, and I love living in these latter days.
I had the exact same experience while listening to Brother Wilcox!
I’m in my 70’s and it’s easy to look back and become a bit discouraged about the rising generation except…I’ve been substitute teaching in a Middle School in Heber, UT. These kids are so good and so interesting and so many filled with the Spirit. They don’t even know how kind and delightful they are. I just love them. This broadcast verifies and explains their goodness and righteousness. They exude hope for me and for themselves. Thanks for the 2nd witness of the hope in the generations coming after.
It is so encouraging to listen to what Brother Wilcox had to say here, isn't it?
I watched/listened to this episode and have been so uplifted & so nourished by everything that you both said and taught! And miracles are happening. Our son lives with us - he is coming back to the church and working toward full fellowship - and as I shared with him about the Allegory & what I was learning in the moment, he said, "It's not just Jesus who is the Master, it's Heavenly Father! And Jesus is pleading for US! Wait a little longer, I'll/we'll work a little longer. He wants to gather ALL of us!" For this son the feel this and share this is evidence of our Father's and Savior's love and of prayers answered, and of this son 'casting off the bad as the good shall grow'.
Thank you for your scholarship, your faithfulness, and your testimonies of truth.
Thank you for sharing that wonderful story! There is so much hope in this allegoary!
We love you Brad Wilcox! You have been a huge influence on my life from EFY in 1989 to all of your great talks and inspiring enthusiasm since then!
Amen to that!!!
This gave me hope for my loved one who have left the church. I have studied Jac. 5 ma y time over the years in various classes Brad Wilcox made it more Lear and mea inful than ever before. Please invite him back
I think this allegory does tell us that God will gather so many who have strayed.
I loved this podcast. This episode was just so wonderful. Thank you so much for sharing this.
I am so glad it was helpful for you!
I always love to hear Brad, I always feel the spirit. I appreciate your work with this podcast, I always learn so much, and you inspire me to dig deeper into my own study.
Hearing that we help you go deeper into your own study makes it all worth it! That is what we hope for. Bless you!
After i received a testimony of The Book of Mormon, i taught the Old Testament. I learned to love the Old Testament and saw how it complimented the BoM. I agree with Bro Wilcox that Jesus in both books is a passionate Man who is both merciful but just.
Amen to that!!!
This feels right in line with Elder Kearon’s comment at conference about our Savior’s relentless pursuit for each one of us!
Yes it does, doesn't it!!!
yes!!
Scripture study has always been my weakness. My strengths lie in service and doing my callings. These podcasts have really been helpful to me because when I read the scriptures I see them at face value. The podcasts have helped me to understand the symbolism and meanings. I listen while I am doing other things and take notes if I get impressions. Eventually, I am going to collect my thoughts and put them into my new journal Book of Mormon.
This is so fantastic! I am so happy to hear this! Bless you!
@@TheScripturesAreReal Do you have a brother named Randy who is a heart Dr? Ed Thatcher my brother in law was his roommate at BYU .
@@carlynn1956 He is a more distant relative.
Wow, thank you so much for this. I have been richly fed.! I LOVE Jacob 5 and love hearing it in our own thoughts and language for it. Thank you so much!!!
I am so glad that you had a great experience with this. Brother Wilcox made it a wonderful discussion!
I learn so much from your podcasts. I am definitely a fan. Brother Wilcox has really enlightened me on the gathering of Israel and why it is necessary.
He really presented things in such a powerful way, didn't he?
I love Brad Wilcox!! He was one of my BYU professors of Elementary Education. I could listen to him talk for hours!
You were blessed then, and we are all blessed by him now. This was an uplifting discussion for me for sure!
This is the best explanation of the allegory of the olive tree in Jacob 5. It now makes sense! Thank you! ❤ 😊
I am so very, very glad it was helpful for you in that way. Bless you!
Thanks so very much for all your work to teach us more of our Heavenly Father and Christ.
If it is making a difference for you, then the work is certainly worth it! Bless you in all you do!
What a wonderful treatment of these often difficult chapters of the Book of Mormon. This has excited and motivated me to dive into and not just skim over Jacob 5. Thank you so very much.
It makes me soooo happy to hear that! I hope you have a fantastic experience with the allegory! Bless you!
I never looked at it like that Brad concerning the Flood. I like it.. An alternative high school. To make better choices!!
God is always working with us!!!
This was such a great podcast! From beginning to end you two not only wonderfully explained the allegory in Jacob but also beautifully testified of the Prophet Joseph, the Book of Mormon, and the Prophet, President Nelson, and the blessings that come from following his inspired direction. I loved all of that, but I especially love how you testified, as did the Spirit, of the love that our Savior Jesus Christ has for each and every one of us. Thank you for your time, efforts, and most of all for sharing your testimonies!
I am so glad that it was helpful for you in this way. That is just what we are hoping for. I also felt the love our Father and the Son have for us as we recorded this episode!
The first time we went through the BOM in Come Follow Me, I read Jacob 5 with new eyes. I was so touched by the great lengths our God goes to save his covenant people. He is beyond merciful. Now hearing this discussion with you and Bro. Wilcoxl has given me even more insight! Bravo!!!
It is such a touching allegory, isn't it!?!
Beautiful! Thank you so much for giving us further light and understanding of Jacob 5.
Our pleasure!
I love you both! Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to spend time and benefit from the knowledge you both have. I’m so grateful! Thank you!! ❤😊
I am so glad it is helpful for you! Bless you!
@@TheScripturesAreReal your podcast is so helpful and although everyone says this, I have learned so much! I teach gospel doctrine and I share something I have learned from you with my class (as well as show your books)! They’re so good! Thank you for the years of effort you have put in to learn not only the doctrine, but how to teach and present the information you have. It is a real ability to do that. I’m grateful you are willing to share. It is a real blessing to all of us!
@@janetrobinson2699 I am so very, very glad to hear that this is a benefit for you. Nothing could make me happier!
This was a wonderful great lessen. Thank you both . So helpful to understand how important it is to gather Israel and everyone be part .
I am so glad it was helpful for you in this way!!!!
I also appreciate the great message on Hope through the atonement.
It is such a powerful thing to talk about, isn't it?
Thanks for these wonderful insights and your testimonies of how the youth show up in the Vinyard and are embracing and coming to know Christ in their life. Can't wait to share with Sophomires in Seminary tomorrow!
It is powerful and uplifting, isn't it!?!
This has been so inspiring and I now have a better understanding! Thank you for sharing your testimonies 🙏🙂💓
I am so thrilled that you understand better! Bless you in all your efforts!
Thank you so much. Very enlightening and inspiration. God bless.❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🏼🙏😁
You are so welcome
❤ Thank you so much for your inspiration!
It was an inspiration for me too! The Gospel blesses us all in so many ways!
One of the best explanations on Jacob 5 and breaking it down into the 7 periods!
I am so glad it was helpful for you!
This was SO good! Feel like i need to rewatch several times- there is so much to learn from this video! The stats at the end were super interesting too. Thank you!
It was so encouraging and uplifting to listen to Brother Wilcox's teachings and stats, wasn't it?
The spirit was so strong with this one!! Thank you so much for all your efforts! 💙
I am so glad it was that way for you! Bless you!
Thank you for your beautiful insights! So we'll done.
I am so glad that our discussion was beautiful and helpful for you. The concepts of the gospel as taught in the BoM truly is beautiful!
This was wonderful.
I am so glad it was helpful for you. Bless you!
The statistics on the youth and young adults are startling. In a positive way! Especially considering the challenges they face from societal pressure to doubt the very existence of objective truth, let alone faith in God and organized religion. I would hope this kind of information is disseminated to wards and branches across the globe to provide encouragement to members of all ages and build their confidence and trust in the Lord.
Amen! It is so encouraging!!!
Listening to this podcast, I see a whole different view of what the Lord is doing to help bring ALL His children back to Him to live in the celestial kingdom. So hard to translate to teach to 9 and 10 year old kids. I watch this podcast so I can learn so I can teach MY primary kids. Jeanette
I hope it is helpful in teaching those kids. There is a very touching message in this allegory that I hope they can hear with your help. Bless you in those efforts!!!
Amen thank you Brothers!!! Love that President Nelson is inviting us to spend more time digging, dunging and nourishing our trees in the Temple. Sorry to be missing out on your upcoming tour know you all need no encouragement to enjoy. Our family has a CFM scripture study messenger post where we share insights. I have some friends who are widows who get together each day to share CFM study. Thank you for the invitation it is a great way to multipy our talents. They enjoy your posts also. Off to read Ralph E. Swiss's ensign article about The Tame and Wild Olive Trees. Thanks again much appreciate your efforts to build and share faith in the Lord. God continue to bless.
I love hearing how engaged you are in CFM. That is wonderful stuff. We are just happy to add to that in some small way.
Bless you!
I work in a Temple office and love seeing youth coming to do baptisms but even better is all the young adults who come to do anything that is needed. Many of them come every week. During spring break, young adults were dropping by to serve in the Temple as they traveled on their vacation. What sort of marvelous doctrine produces young adults who spend their time serving the Lord? True doctrine does that.
That is exactly what does it! They respond to the Spirit and the way it testifies of true doctrine. The rising generation is amazing!
I'm so glad that I listened to this podcast. I love the testimonies Bro Wilcox and Bro Mulhstein. They are both so insightful and grounded in truth. Thank you both for inspiring me today.
I am so very happy that it was inspiring and instructive for you in this way!
This was just outstanding Bro. Kerry and Bro. Brad, loved your comments and insights! Thank you for all you both do to move the work forward! 💕🙏😇
I am so very, very happy it is helpful for you!
That's for helping me to learn more
I am so glad that it is helpful for you in that way! Bless you!!!
Jacob 5 finally makes sense, thank you. ❤
I am so very, very glad! Bless you!
Thanks so much for this podcast so amazing to learn about Jacob 5 in such detail - from Gold Coast stake Australia 💗🙏
Thanks mate!!! I am so glad that it was helpful for you. And I love hearing that half way around the world we can still resonate together on Gospel principles!
Oh my gosh Brad is my favorite teacher. Kudos to Brad ❤thanks for having him on!!
I felt like he taught with such power!
Great program! Thanks for all your efforts!
I am so very, very glad it has been helpful for you! Bless you!
I want to thank you for your repeated emphasis on multiple fulfillments in Isaiah's prophecies and in scripture like that: as I approached Jacob 5 this time, I had a thought to prayerfully walk through the allegory asking, "In what ways does this part apply directly to my own life story?". It was a powerful exercise and the Holy Ghost was able to help me remember and to heal in some wonderful ways.
I learned a lot from this podcast episode as well: thank you both.
You could not have said anything that would make me happier. This is just what we hope happens because of these. Bless you!
So glad!!!!
Thank you for teaching us.
It is truly and genuinely our pleasure!
Loved this! Something that came to me as you were talking about the digging, pruning and nourishing….I am grateful God has confidence in me and knows me so well that his digging and pruning will help my progression rather than make it a stumbling block. Thank you both!
That is so perfect! I love that thought! Thank you!
Great presentation. The spirit was surely here. The more I hear Jacob Chapter 5 he more I understand it. Thanks a bunch.
I am so glad. If we are helping people understand scripture, then we are succeeding wonderfully! Bless you!
And even if they never come back he still dies not cast them off into hell... The Lord extends the telestial & the terrestrial kingdom. Justice and mercy perfectly satisfied through the Atonement of Jesus Christ!
Amen!
I love Jacob 5!! Truly, to a small degree we as parents can relate. But this is perfect love from a Savior who never tires, who never gives up!
Loved this podcast!
It really is amazing how much God keeps working with us and loving us!!!!!
Bro Wilcox, Bro Muhlesten. I cannot express enough gratitude for each of your contributions to this wonderfully inspired discussion on Jacob 5-6. It opened my heart in ways only the Spirit can do. I am beginning to understand what Elder Maxwell shared his feelings about the Book ofMormon, said he; "The Book of Mormon is like a vast mansion, with gardens and wings. My tour of it has never been completed. Some rooms I have yet to enter, and there are more felicitous fireplaces waiting to warm me. Even the rooms I have glimpsed contain further furnishings and rich detail yet to be savored. There are panels inlaid with incredible insights and design and de`cor dating from Eden. There are even sumptuous banquet tables painstakingly prepared by predecessors which await all of us." F.A.R.MS. Symposium. Oct 10th, 1986 BYU Campus
Thank you for assisting in opening the door of Jacob...I think I'll stay awile...
Jacob 5 is certainly a wonderful room with an overly felicitous fireplace, isn't it?!
What a gem of a comment from the great Neal A. Maxwell! Thanks so much for sharing that one!!!
@@HelenaLemon That is a good one, isn't it!?!
I enjoy chapter 5,there are books on Chapter 5in our Church App, I love this❤
I have always been looking at the beautiful trees,use to collect pictures of different types of trees.
Finally got a beautiful Old Olive Tree.
Thank both of you for explaining so many things ❤
I also love our C.F.M.study book it's fantastic
I was always working on each section anyway and now we have more fun for the children and grandchildren. ❤❤
I am loving going through our time in The Book 📖 Of Mormon ❤️
This is my 1st time with this video...
We can use any other ancient fruit growing on a tree,Olive trees are the best ❤
It's like we are new to the church in the middle of our life,this is okay,because he will continue with teaching us all we can gain ,as our ability let's us,say we have been born with a couple of disabilities, he ,understand each one of us!
I love this about Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father ❤
Love is the greatest gift ❤📖🙏 27:00
What a marvelous experience you are having and are creating for others!
These 2 brethren together 🙌
I am so glad it is helpful for you!
I took his class a bit ago at byu. I am thrilled to see he has a podcast now!
It is wonderful to hear from Brad. I am sorry to say that he doesn't have a podcast, it is Kerry that has the podcast. But it is great to hear Brad on it!
Oh my gosh I am right on track.. I talked about Jonah earlier. It is amazing how the Holy Spirit of God works Now your talking about him way cool.
You have to love how the Spirit works with us!
I thoroughly enjoyed hearing you and Brother Wilcox share your insights. Really helped me see a different perspective and understand the allegory more personally. It was also helpful to hear some of the research data on religiosity. I work a lot with young women and men preparing to serve missions and I find they are so focused on Christ and making covenants as a result of their home centered gospel study. They love the temple and they love the Lord. We are living in a very momentous time.
This episode made me feel so excited and hopeful about the gathering and our youth today!
@@TheScripturesAreReal thank you for hosting each episode. I’m not sure how you fit it in to everything else you do,but it’s part of my regular study. Looking forward to being with you in Egypt soon.
@@jeffreygardner3625 Sometimes it feels like I am not quite fitting it in.
It will be wonderful to be with you there!
Loved these insights. I have struggled to really understand the stuff in this chapter. Thank you.
I am so glad that this helped you understand this beautiful chapter, and that it helped you do something you have been wanting to do. Bless you!
I love learning about chapter 5 of Jacob! It is very profound and inspirational to learn about the master of the Vineyard and of His servant. His pure love for us can be felt very vividly throughout this chapter❤ On another note, I love Brother Wilcox, he has lots to share and to learn from, yet my question to him is in minute 39:21 when he mentions, 'I want to have children who are going to stay strong and faithful, but I don't want to have family home evening and scripture study.' Is it then our fault if our children decide to walk away from the gospel even though, we had FHE every Monday, family prayer every day, and scripture studies. Wasn't Father Lehi constantly and faithfully sharing the gospel with his children, yet two of them walked away from it? I believe I know the answer, but when saying what he mentioned, it makes us wonder, the ones who have some of those children who chose different ways, to question, did I teach correctly? were we fun enough when we were teaching them? What could I have done better to help them?
I am so glad you enjoyed this, and that you have enjoyed so many of the things Brother Wilcox says and does.
I don't think he is implying that FHE will solve everything and keep everyone from straying. That is clearly not the case. What he was saying is that if we want something good, we need to do what the Lord asks. That doesn't take away people's agency, but we can't expect that extra measure of help and protection when we don't do our part.
Of course no one has been perfect in FHE, or anything else. I think he was just trying to encourage us to do what we have been counseled to do if we want the blessings that are associated with them. Even those blessings can't force people to be good.
That is my sense of it anyway. I will ask if I have explained it somewhat correctly.
@@TheScripturesAreReal Thank you for your reply. I do understand what you are saying and I believe it too. It is just sensitive to mention that by doing everything in the gospel and what the church teaches us to do the results should, be all children active. Besides that, I loved the discussion! I felt the pure love our Savior has for us, His children, he never gives up working in the vineyard, even to the end. We can learn for our own personal vineyard within our family to never give up. Thank you Brother Mulehstien!
@@Yelta I understand. It is a really sensitive topic for almost all families.
What I love are all the young adults serving in the temple. Previously it was rare to serve in the temple unless you were retired. I couldn't even be endowed until I got married. The only way all these temples could be built in Utah would be if the staffing can be satisfied and this is possible because of the young adults. As a youth I could only do baptism for the dead once a year. Now the youth can get recommends that they can carry with them and go as often as they can. I rejoice in how policies have changed to increase the love of the temple.
It has been so uplifting to watch! Our future is in good hands!
I so much enjoyed listening to your podcast on Jacob 5 that I'm now listening to it for the second time this week. Thank you for your insights which I have found to be so instructive. At about the 30 min mark, the discussion centers around Assyria and Babylon as the poor spot of ground and the ground poorer than the first. Why don't we hear the conversation being taken a bit further to consider the tribes of Israel being scattered into Scandinavia and Western Europe, from which later came many early converts of the Church, as well as the people of Polynesia and other places? (3 Ne 16:1-3; 'The House of Israel' by E.L.Whitehead, 1947) I think it's fascinating to see how the Lord has truly watched over and preserved these scattered branches of Israel over the course of history and He is now gathering them together at this time. Thank you again for your podcast.
I am so glad you have found this to be helpful.
I am not sure that Assyria and Babylon are THE interpretation here, but they are certainly a valid interpretation. The idea is that we are looking at known examples of scattering. And you are right, they were scattered far and wide, including in Scandinavia, etc. They were scattered everywhere, and we have to remember that as we look at this allegory. Thank you!
The people of Noah on a grand scale remind me of the people of Ninevah on a smaller scale. Jonas didn't want to show mercy but Christ does. Thank goodness for Jesus.
Amen to that!!!
Love it
I am so glad it was helpful for you!
I have shared the teachings from President Nelson's article The Everlasting Covenant and your book God Will Prevail with so many people that my phone had 20 text messages during the first session of conference 🙌
There were a few quotes or paraphrases during conference. I don't know if they knew they were referring to it or not, but it seems to be making a difference. It is humbling to be used to help spread the word of something God wants us to all be thinking about. He surely works in mysterious ways, and I love learning in conference about these topics that are so dear to me.
Yes! Totally caught the quotes! We are grateful for your lifetime of preparation and listening to the Spirit that is helping us all now. And to your dear wife for her part in learning with you and supporting you.
@@crystaldavies9314 You are kind. I will tell my wife. Thank you for remembering her!
I have been listening to you, Kerry--for awhile-- since the outset of Come Follow Me study. I feel that ever since you started talking about Abrahamic Covenants and sharing things about hessid on the various podcasts, that the phraseology about covenants and gathering of Israel starting changing over the pulpits.especially during general conference! I really feel like Kerry has done a monumental work, maybe more behind the scenes, in helping us to really comprehend what we are dealing with in terms of these amazing and merciful covenants. Bless you Kerry!
@@HelenaLemon It is thrilling to hear how much we are talking about covenants and the way we are doing it. I took my focus from President Nelson, and I think others have as well. I do think I have been part of the conversation, and I am grateful to be a small part of the big things that are happening. I think we all always feel so happy when the Lord directs us to do something He wants us to do. Bless you!
I am sharing away❤
Bless you and thank you!!!!
Thank you gents! ❤🏠of🇮🇱
So glad you found it to be helpful!
I learned so much from this episode! Can you post or link the talk that Pres Wilcox mentioned from the Ensign regarding grafting?
I will ask him about it.
I have a friend and his wife who would love to go on the tour with you. They are Hispanic but speak and understand pretty well. Could you tell me how to get more information? Thank you! Oh and I Loved your podcast!
I am so glad the podcast is helpful for you.
Just tell them to email me at thescripturesarereal@gmail.com
Makes sense when it talks about the disobedience of Noah in 1st Peter. Do you think that the wicked in Noah's day will have a chance to be Celestial bound or is this more of a way to go from their Telestial state to a Terrestrial kingdom. Perhaps there were small children that could be Celestial Kingdom bound. Dying before the age of accountability.
I am not the one to say, but I ask why God would close anything off if they are willing to change.
The Lord is brilliant and knew what he was doing when he allowed Israel to be scattered throughout the earth. I doubt Satan was aware of the genius of the plan.
You are so right. The scattering is so amazing in how it fulfills God's purposes of bringing His children back to Him.
When will Joseph Smith be resurrected and sent back to redeem Zion and build New Jerusalem as per 3 Nephi 21:10-End and D&C 101, 103, 105, etc.? His patriarchal blessings said as much... I testify he was faithful until the end and is the first from this dispensation to receive the keys of resurrection.
I have no ability to answer, but I testify of his faithfulness as well.
You forgot to ask for likes and subscribe ❤
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I did that already without him having to ask! So why mention that because it's beyond redundant, more like annoying lol to keep asking. It's like he's begging.
@@DenJ-fh1vd sorry to come across as begging. My production team tells me I need to keep encouraging it. I am sorry if it rubs the wrong way.
@@TheScripturesAreReal Oh no it doesn't rub the wrong way. I already did it without you asking or showing me a big sign like so many other You Tubers do. 🙂
So much evidence that the Book mormon is true!!!
The power of the teachings and the Spirit it brings is such a testimony.
This was outstanding, I always learn so much from each of you, thank you for your dedication and beautiful testimonies, they strengthen mine!
I am so thrilled to hear that!