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I feel the same way about the NES Final Fantasy games. I've tried the original NES game, then the GBA remaster, and every time I never finish. There is a lot of grinding in old NES RPGs, just like "NES difficulty", to pad out the game length, and the battle system is nothing more than have bigger numbers and manage your resources so you can make it back to up after a long dungeon dive or make it the next save point.

"Just Breed" is a bad choice of words by Japanese developers who didn't know English. They wanted a title along the lines of "Righteous Lineage", but they chose the wrong suggestions from their Japanese-English dictionary.

there is a remake comming in october 24rth

Off topic but wth is that dialogue font?

Seems very similar to mother 3

Ahh, this means Suiko 2 is on the horizon. Flaws? What flaws.

You should give the game another chance when the retranslation that fixes a lot of the issues of the original release as well as the running and exp patch (Capcom realized their mistake and increased the amount of EXP you gain and added a run button in the GBA port) That being said, the BoF sequels are really nice classics that are deserving of your attention

I wish we could get a translation of both Ys V Expert (which rebalances the game and gives it more challenge) and the PS2 version of Ys V (which might be the only Taito version of Ys worth playing)

Having only played the kyuuyaku Megami Tensei remake of this game. I can say it was a frustrating experience for sure though the atmosphere and music were definitely highlights for me. That being said Megami Tensei 2 is definitely the game for the better every aspect. I might eventually get to the originals for both one day though.

Love these games. You know, ive been playing these games for awhile, and i could swear when i did the Japanese sound test in sj redux, i heard the Japanese voice say "SHEEN MEGA-ME TANE SAY" but everyone not in japan says muh GAH me. Edit: have you played kyuuyaku? The remastered soundtrack is great, especially the song you ended with! Love that one

The plot makes more sense if you read the books. And holy crap, those books are not what you're going to expect.

i gotta be honest tho, you should check out and talk about digital devil story 2, it's such an underrated game!

It's incredibly impressive how many mechanics and ideas this game created would indirectly inspire turn-based RPGs today. Recruiting tens of monsters to train and grow, a time mechanic in the form of moon phases, the idea of replayability in an RPG, and multiple endings (hence the word “Tensei”, reincarnation, in the title). It's fascinating how Megami Tensei and SMT as a whole were the catalysts of so many ideas in future RPGs, and yet even after 30+ years, it's relatively niche.

Have you played SMT: Strange Journey yet? If you enjoyed the dungeon crawling of the early series, Strange Journey is the fully evolved, as of this point, dungeon crawling experience for the series. I'd say it's worth experiencing to see how far the the early formula got before it shifted away from it for the more 3D approach they started going with.

Yeah, having watched the SMT themed RUclipsr, Marsh, detailing the plot of the digital devil story series, knowing the full context only makes it weirder, to the point where you question how SMT even got the chance to spawn from this.

The demon summoning on a computer concept makes sense when you consider that what those rituals involve is drawing symbols and saying words at specific times. Computers can draw shapes extremely precisely and execute commands at exact time intervals, so they could conceivably perform those things more consistently than a human could.

Its stamina system is really annoying

I think one big quality get often overlook... and it's sadly because JRPG nowaday is a popular genre every know how it works, combine with the fact DQIV is now an old game so very few player will start by it... but now imagine you've never played a JRPG before and this game for whatever reason ends up being your first, now suddenly the chapter base intro makes more sense, cause you see it's actually a big tutorial : -Chapter 1 : Makes you in control of one character that is bulky enough battles won't be to dangerous, and a character that is simple. It actually introduce you to the basics of how the battle works, with the basic command of attack and Defend, and it also introduce you to the basics of how progressing and exploring in this game works. -Chapter 2 : Up the standard, by now giving you a full team, with 2 characters having spells, this chapter introduce how to play with a team of characters instead of a solo one, teaching you that each characters have their strength and weakness and therefore have different purpose. Chapter 3..... Ok that one is the exception, and is the only one of the bunch that feel off, at least it gives the novelty of being the merchant for once. Chapter 4 : Put you in a tough situation of having 2 characters rather squishy... then it gives you a guest character that is much more sturdy, and this one is suppose to teach how the line-up works, if you pay attention if the guest character is in the third slot you may notice the twins get hit more often than him, which indicate you the earlier a character is in the line up the more ofteb it get hits, and so you must change your line up and put the guest character first. So yeah these 4 chapters are actually a big tutorial, and I really think it does a great job at teaching you all of this without flat out telling you, and without taking the player for an idiot and letting him just enough clue to figuring out all this stuff. But as said this quality get lost cause nowadays, everyone knows how to play a JRPG, so by today this is very basic, but this is actually well done, the game is further well as in chapter 5 they give the Hero just enough solo battle in the first dungeon with him/her, for him/her to catch up in level with the other. And as an all I just considerer this game the perfect entry point to the DQ series for new players and even a good entry point for the JRPG genre as an all : -The game is well designed all around, I never felt lost once in this one, and the difficulty overall is very well balance (only minor difficulty spikes for me was that big lion boss and the final boss). -It introduce every core mechanics of the DQ serie, also introduce every character's roles that exist in the serie, without any complex progression system to keep it simple and it also introduce some staple of the serie like the Small Medals quest. -And as an all is a pretty short JRPG that takes no longuer than 20-30 hours. So yeah this game is really good, it's overall design is very solid, but as said if you're a seasoned DQ or JRPG players, then the quality of this game's design are easy to overlook. Tldr : This game's simplicity is both it's biggest strength and biggest weakness, depending of the players and the expectations.

Isn't this an iphone exclusive??? Lololol

They remade this game along with MegaTen II on the Super Famicom under the title Kyūyaku Megami Tensei(1995). Has a bunch of QoL updates if I remember correctly.

fun fact: you can obtain hinokagutsuchi as early as after defeating the minotaur. just buff up nakajima's combined STR, WIS, and LUC stat to 48 (ex: 20 STR + 20 WIS + 8 LUC) and reach the secret room. you might die on your way there.

When I hear anyone talk about any series or old games that this or that mechanic is just too annoying today etc etc just makes me want to love the game alot more. I'm glad games like the SMT series exist to not appeal to the mainstream, games should be for gamers not just for regular joe. I get a sweet kick out of adapting to BS in alot of games, also we have save states these days so if we're not up for BS today then we can just stop it and come back 7 months later if we wish. No harm in taking a break for the real world :D

The fun thing is; there are 2 games based on DDS. The RPG on the NES and there was an action based game on PC (Japan only). I can't imagine there is any way to play the PC game these days.

"its a bizarre concept", sir, have you actually seen what a circuit board looks like? closest thing to demon summoning runes the world has ever seen.

Doing the lords work I wonder if the Super Famicom ones are slightly more approachable 😅

Personally when it comes to me and 'games not aging well' I find early (full) 3D titles fit that bill. Before developers figured out controls and a decent camera. However I usually find that RPGs of that era have aged better as a lot of them employed that Final Fantasy style digitized backgrounds and turn based combat, though I guess for a modern gamer the turn based combat makes it feel old (personally I love turn based combat). My favorite games on the PS1 tend to be either RPGs or 2D/2.5D games. I never have much problems going back to 8bjt or 16bit games.

Just agreeing with the video. There's very little reason to play the Famicom MegaTen games today, but SMT1 does hold up reasonably well as long as you're OK with grindy dungeon-crawls.

It's funny how much the story seems to depend on you reading the novel or watching the 45 min anime adaptation of the first novel. Except the story of the game has nothing to do with it but things are explained more in a stupidly graphic way lol. One thing about this game I cannot get over though is the spritework. I am a sucker for NES sprites in general but they have so much personality in this game. I am sure you know this and its sequel got a remake bundle on the Super Famicom and I hear that fixes alot of issues one would have with the original versions so it is really interesting you chose the original version specifically. A better choice when you want to see things historically for sure.

7:35 Just like Gen 9 Pokemon!

Thanks for this video - I'd been curious about the earlier Megami Tensei titles but hadn't heard much about them.

Rarely would I ever say a game "hasn't aged well," but if there ever was an RPG I would say that about it's this one! If you played the second one right after like I did it is honestly amazing how much the sequel improved on every aspect of the game. I'm no MegaTen expert, I've only played about half the games at most, but MT2 is my favorite out of all the MT games I've tried, even including Persona and the other spinoffs! Can't wait for you to try that one out; I think it will be right up your alley. A huge problem with this game is the number of unrecruitable enemies. It's also a nitpick in MT2 but it's a lot less of an active problem there. In the first game there are simply not enough different recruitables to the point it actively hurts the game experience. I don't think Magnetite has ever done anything in Megami Tensei except add an insignificant amount of grinding. It's just too easy to grind for it so it never really influences your decisions beyond once in a blue moon. There is a reason why the concept as a whole is dropped in the later SMT games.

Where do you find time to play all of these games, come out with videos, and perhaps eat and sleep? :)

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Just saying the music volume was too high compared to your voice. Felt like double!

Also art 2 is a great reason why 2/3X speed ups are needed in jrpgs. look at FF7/8/9 remasters all had a speed up and made it so much better to play.

being able to store random battles was such a great idea. great way to beat the annoying stop start mechanics of random fights.

False. Is it his best. No. Is it one of the few jrpg battle systems that are well thought out and maintains a good challenge? Yes. Beautiful backgrounds and characters, lovely music, a respectable storyline, but is probably where it fails the most. But I’m by no means complaining about it. The story isnt memorable, and it isn’t awful. It’s fine with some really good komenat

Shining Force (1) was always my favorite game as a kid, but Shining in the Darkness was just a piece of trivia I learned about from the internet until I played it early this year. I think it's a tremendously fun game that deserves way more attention. I did draw my own maps on graph paper, which I genuinely think was the most fun part of the whole experience. I very much appreciate your "fantasy comfort food" thought, I think it's very accurate for how I felt playing the game.

I agree with the myth for the transforming tree they used that in Tenchi Muyo with Sasami and Tsunami.

I remember I made Edward more powerful than everyone 😂

I was a Sega Master System kid growing up and Phantasy Star still remains one of my favorite JRPGs of all time! Great review!

Gotta say, love your videos, you've earned a subscriber, keep up the great work, mate!

im about to pre order the remake with target buy 2 get 1, also grabbing DQ3 remake and euyiden chronicles hundred heroes

Now this game sounds really interesting....will have to have a look at this at somepoint.

I'm not sure anyone considers the Game Boy Color version the definitive version. Surely it's the SNES version

Is the frame rate this bad in the game? Or is this just the way it was recorded?

If you don't say Yee Haw at some point I will be sad. Edit: Why did I think this game was a Western?

I played this game for the first time on the PlayStation classic and throughly enjoyed it

I never really noticed the slow menus back in the day but I get you some of them are just painful now haha - Great vid as always!

This was a great stop gap before ffvii came out. Ubtil wild arms came out with the. Whole grid mess they had me locked in.