The Zodiac Killer/Charles Manson connection

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Комментарии • 110

  • @user-qv4np3ur5w
    @user-qv4np3ur5w 3 месяца назад +68

    At this point, SpongeBob is the Zodiac Killer.

    • @Xiphos0311
      @Xiphos0311 3 месяца назад +3

      Hahahahahahahaha

    • @VI-rt7sh
      @VI-rt7sh 3 месяца назад +11

      That explains the square black hood.

    • @chrish2112
      @chrish2112 3 месяца назад +3

      Your mom is the Zodiac.

    • @kittikat2318
      @kittikat2318 3 месяца назад +3

      I believe it!! 😂

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

      Hiding that mask in his pants. Hmmmmm.

  • @thomasmoshier3920
    @thomasmoshier3920 3 месяца назад +10

    I never gave the Manson Family connection much credence to the Zodiac murders. Then l listened to Davis on a podcast and he puts forth a compelling argument. The reason it all seemed plausible to me is because you don’t see law enforcement make the effort to solve the Zodiac murders the way they did other high profile cases like the Golden State murders. This suggests to me that they may know who the killer was and aren’t wasting time on the case now. Then “Bad Things” comes along and destroys the suspect's timeline. Thanks a lot “Bad Things!”

    • @dragonmartijn
      @dragonmartijn 3 месяца назад

      These kind of arguments often appears in unsolved crimes: “We know who the killer is!” But why didn’t you catch him? There were probably enough policemen put on this case, but there wasn’t a satisfying solution, hence “this case didn’t get enough attention.” The Zodiac is “dead, in prison or in a mental institution” you could say this about anyone you haven’t heard of in a while. They don’t have the Zodiac as a criminal, that’s for sure.

    • @thomasmoshier3920
      @thomasmoshier3920 3 месяца назад

      The Zodiac case seems so solvable to me. There’s DNA evidence behind the stamps. They got a partial profile back in 2002. That sample supposedly cleared ALA along with several other suspects. With advancements in technology a full DNA sample could now be realized. Such a sample was supposed to be done two years ago. The public has heard nothing. Something’s fishy. Do they know who it is and are keeping quiet for some reason? Seems plausible to me.

  • @jeezycreezy4220
    @jeezycreezy4220 3 месяца назад +7

    There were dozens of serial killers active across the country at the time. Califonia having such a massive population compared to the rest of the country, it's not unthinkable that two infamous killers would end up doing their things completly independant of eachother at roughly the same time at the two most populated areas of the most populated state.

    • @jonathanking8800
      @jonathanking8800 3 месяца назад +3

      Hell, there were dozens of confirmed serial killers in both cities at the same time. Most serial killers don't get headlines.

  • @jemrawc
    @jemrawc 3 месяца назад +11

    Not gonna try to pretend like I even have a clue who the Zodiac is or was. But I’ve always thought and still believe that it wasn’t just one person. There were a few different people who committed the murders.

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

      Who is it Michael Madeau or whatnot? He being interviewed was saying something about two completely different cars. I mean he is a little sketchy on his memory from the trauma.

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

      Mean the cars heentions are like a Karman Ghia and a very large model I cannot remember like a Buick Lesabre or Oldsmobile Delta 88 or something. Not two cars you would interchange in a description

    • @DarrenSloan
      @DarrenSloan 3 месяца назад

      I have seen a programme that puts a claim that zodiac son or Sam were carried out by different people as part of a cult

  • @MidnightVentures
    @MidnightVentures 3 месяца назад +16

    No connection here. Never believed it.

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh 3 месяца назад +6

    Did the opening graphic of "Summer 1969" make a Bryan Adams song play in anyone else's head, or am I just really old? One of the first concerts I went to was a Rolling Stone show with Bryan Adams as the opener.

  • @daishi4531
    @daishi4531 3 месяца назад +6

    I believe you got this "connection" 100% correct BT:TC, it is not a valid, workable theory in any respect 👍 The Zodiac was taking on the cops, whom he hated, in a game of cat-n-mouse. And he beat 'em, then went into retirement with 12 kills, the Zodiac wheel completed...

  • @dreamrealm1938
    @dreamrealm1938 3 месяца назад

    Plz do more vids on the zodiac

  • @Kol931
    @Kol931 3 месяца назад +6

    Might as well call you jack reacher on how far you reached on this conspiracy

  • @86TheMedia
    @86TheMedia 3 месяца назад

    Just like the movies strangers. Manson said the body count is higher then they think. Because he has his people all over the place. Some said they did the keddy cabin murders as well. But we will never know. This can most certainly be very possible. Manson talked very cryptic about his crimes, saying I am everywhere, and have bodies all over. Maybe true

  • @planetxfilm
    @planetxfilm 3 месяца назад

    Strong criticism of Howard!

  • @efnissien
    @efnissien 3 месяца назад +1

    Zodiac, the gift that keeps on giving.

  • @shaunblue8631
    @shaunblue8631 3 месяца назад +1

    And Son of Sam was running around about the same time but in New York

  • @Dragonette666
    @Dragonette666 3 месяца назад +1

    ok it was the state of California that tried the Mansons not the federal government. That's part of the reason that Manson was so cocky about going back to prison. He had done federal time before and I've been told federal isn't as bad as state. He didn't really how rough CA state penitentiaries could be. He was in for a rude awakening.

    • @dragonmartijn
      @dragonmartijn 3 месяца назад +1

      I thought Manson didn’t want to leave prison the last time, because he felt comfortable there. There wasn’t anyone to help him outside of the institute.

  • @kellyshomemadekitchen
    @kellyshomemadekitchen 3 месяца назад

    Nothing about Charles Manson would surprise me

  • @86TheMedia
    @86TheMedia 3 месяца назад

    What it comes down to is, we will never know who the zodiac is. He has successfully beaten the system, and there probably won't be another man/monster like him. Hopefully

  • @richarddemuth7077
    @richarddemuth7077 7 дней назад

    Vallejo police officer HOWARD GORDON was the "Zodiac". 😎

  • @mardrettekemp7182
    @mardrettekemp7182 2 месяца назад

    I don't think Davis was the Zodiac. I don't think he's connected with Manson at all.

  • @HiNRGboy
    @HiNRGboy 3 месяца назад +1

    I mean they were active at the same time..could be some connection that we just don't know about

    • @Bellpipe41
      @Bellpipe41 3 месяца назад

      Kemper and Mullin were active at the same time, in the same city.
      It doesn’t mean there is a connection. Coincidences do happen.

    • @HiNRGboy
      @HiNRGboy 3 месяца назад

      @@Bellpipe41 I know, just saying maybe there's a slight possibility... it's not like we really know anything anyway. We're just as lost about the Zodiac identity today as they were back when it was all new.

  • @user-sb2iv6ms9q
    @user-sb2iv6ms9q 3 месяца назад

    That's the answer to the 32 anagram cipher incidentally

  • @jenniferbreaux7385
    @jenniferbreaux7385 3 месяца назад +6

    It's interesting, but I'm calling b*llsh*i on this one. Hell I don't know anymore.

  • @saraessex8124
    @saraessex8124 3 месяца назад

    I wonder if zodiac is linked to the colonial pkwy murders too

  • @dpglounge4900
    @dpglounge4900 3 месяца назад

    Zodiac was Aruther Lee Allen

  • @seonpollock5576
    @seonpollock5576 3 месяца назад

    I thought it was Patrick

  • @MD37428
    @MD37428 3 месяца назад +6

    No, I'm the zodiac

    • @BlessYourHeart254
      @BlessYourHeart254 3 месяца назад +2

      No I am! Never mind that I was a toddler and lived across the US, pay no attention to that 😂

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

      You profile pic is quit disturbing too.

    • @devekut2
      @devekut2 3 месяца назад

      No, I am. Stop lying.

  • @Milkman4279
    @Milkman4279 3 месяца назад

    Loss-ANN-jill-eez

  • @thacryinggame
    @thacryinggame 3 месяца назад +2

    You took my idea from a youtube comment and made this video. That’s a fact.

  • @user-sb2iv6ms9q
    @user-sb2iv6ms9q 3 месяца назад

    Robert Vernon Coffman Us Air Forceman

  • @nautifella
    @nautifella 3 месяца назад +1

    The Manson family operated *exclusively* in Southern California. The Zodiac operated _almost exclusively_ in the San Francisco Bay area. One possible homicide in Riverside and two in Lake Tahoe are the only outliers. It is commonly believed that both the Manson Family and the Zodiac killed more than is publicly credited to them. However, their maps do not overlap at all.
    They *never* tied a Manson acolyte to the Zodia. If the cops had caught him, they would have crowed it from every rooftop in the country. They had zero gain for keeping it quiet for 50+ years.
    I lived in Vallejo for 5 years in the 80s and took it up as a hobby, for reason I won't explain here. None of the named leading suspects are or could be the Zodiac. The evidence for each is often contradictory or just plain wrong. Far to many cases of stretching the evidence to fit the suspect, and focus on circumstantial details and ignoring the hard evidence.
    The Manson family is scarily serendipitous to me. I have been to their Death Valley ranch and the sites of the two most publicized murders as well the place they lived at in the old LA zoo. (want to see hell on earth? go to an abandoned zoo) I've even spoken with around a dozen people that actually knew them.
    In each case I had no idea where I was (the MF relationship) or that the person I was speaking with had known CM. After meeting the cadaver dog handler I began actively looking into the family. I came across no new information, but I was able to quell several BS rumors. Like this one.
    I have enough for a book and I even have a half finished manuscript. But a man with a snub nosed .38 and very serious fieldcraft skills, convinced me not to do that when we met in a parking garage in Philadelphia. He approached *undetected* from behind (hard to do), used my name and referenced my work. If I was going to add new knowledge to the field, I may have gone head and published it. It was confermational only. Killing me wasn't the objective. Killing the book was. I stopped.
    Bodies only attract unwanted attention. Had I been killed all of the personal and professional files would have been examined by police. Having detailed MF research and investigation notes would have had somebody run down that angle. Maybe they would have seen something I overlooked.
    On the other hand. If I just stop. It all stops; no questions; no police investigation no new book.

  • @Dingdongaccountant
    @Dingdongaccountant 3 месяца назад

    I don’t think the connection is true.

  • @user-zh5lj1ec4k
    @user-zh5lj1ec4k 3 месяца назад +1

    Biggest franchise crossover ever!!!

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад +1

      Like " Once upon a time in Hollywood"

  • @BizNizil7676
    @BizNizil7676 3 месяца назад +1

    Oh yea!? Well my brothers in-laws cousins, nephew met a guy who knew a girl that met this guy who once said he saw who could have possibly been the zodiac. 🦄

  • @Thomas-yr9ln
    @Thomas-yr9ln 3 месяца назад +3

    When he said he was going to kill a Bus load of kids I was 12 years old. They had a police officer riding on the bus. When I got on the bus I started sitting in the seat in front of him and started to say something and he tells me to sit down and shut up. He was a mean cop.

    • @dragonmartijn
      @dragonmartijn 3 месяца назад +1

      You talked too much!

    • @scallopohare9431
      @scallopohare9431 3 месяца назад +1

      He needed to concentrate.

    • @IbnRushd-mv3fp
      @IbnRushd-mv3fp 3 месяца назад

      I feel like many of these things happened on purpose like some modern mass killings.

  • @midnightmosesuk
    @midnightmosesuk 3 месяца назад

    This guy bares no resemblance to eye witness descriptions of The Zodiac. His costume indicated he had been in the military, specifically the navy. The guy from the Manson Family had no service record.

  • @tommyboy6267
    @tommyboy6267 3 месяца назад +1

    So, then you are using the same ridiculous connection to get click bait. Bravo...

  • @mindriot69
    @mindriot69 3 месяца назад

    Please do a video about how Kevin Bacon seems to be the link between everything that has happened in the last 100 years. #TrueInternetConspiracy

  • @vincentcadena7651
    @vincentcadena7651 3 месяца назад

    The crazy thing is, Howard Davis has studied the case and knows what he’s talking about but this weak theory which is based on probably a lie, has hurt his reputation.

  • @davidmaez7253
    @davidmaez7253 3 месяца назад

    The Horoscope killa was a dude named Kemper Bundy for the reals.

  • @martyransford9650
    @martyransford9650 3 месяца назад

    There is a connection between the Manson killings and The Beach Boys. Their drummer lived at 10050 Cielo Dr and Manson did for a short period of time. He dispatched his "family" there and they found their victims and killed them. The Zodiac? Who knows?

    • @paulsoxl7739
      @paulsoxl7739 3 месяца назад

      Dennis Wilson never lived at 10050 Cielo Dr. Terry Melcher their producer did. Manson knew he had moved out by the time of the murders

    • @AbbyGregory
      @AbbyGregory 3 месяца назад +1

      But if Manson knew he no longer lived at the Cielo address then what was the reason it was targeted?

    • @paulsoxl7739
      @paulsoxl7739 3 месяца назад +1

      @@AbbyGregory It’s been said the house represented his failure to break into the music industry. While that is possible, I think it was secluded and Tex Watson knew the layout

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@AbbyGregoryGood point but they definitely were trying to make war with the police and black people. A race war. Helter skelter you know. They had a plan and as long as it was a person of fame that they killed or several, it would get the media attention.

    • @AbbyGregory
      @AbbyGregory 3 месяца назад +2

      @@paulsoxl7739 I can certainly understand the symbolism the "house" held for Manson so you make a valid point. My empathy simply won't allow me any validation for this tragedy.

  • @bucksdiaryfan
    @bucksdiaryfan 3 месяца назад

    i always thought Richard Nixon was the Zodiac -- he was from California, right? I know the first Zodiac survivor said the killer looked "tanned, rested, and ready!" ... it all fits!... the Zodiac was the man from Yorba Linda!!

  • @user-uf9dh2un5f
    @user-uf9dh2un5f 3 месяца назад +2

    Charles Manson didn't do anything, his minions did. Educate yourself, clearly only repeating what you have herd and done zero research at all 😂

  • @CornPop2
    @CornPop2 3 месяца назад

    pretty sure they figured this out like 2 yrs ago

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 3 месяца назад

    i don't know why no one called Charlie on his BS, i think he was full of sh!t with his half baked dumb reddles. he was a weak scared man that tried to come off hard. i believe he lied a lot about his childhood and how tuff he tried to acted. Charlies weak mind didn't have anyone under control, someone else setup the murders and ole Charlie was the fall guy. i don't think he was smart enough.

  • @BizNizil7676
    @BizNizil7676 3 месяца назад +1

    Im the Zodiac 👽

  • @tatata1543
    @tatata1543 2 месяца назад

    He would have got away with it if it wasn’t for those pesky kids.

  • @buckster2575
    @buckster2575 3 месяца назад

    First I've heard of this.i hoping the last total bs.

  • @nkb2565
    @nkb2565 2 месяца назад

    I dont think they knew each other at all

  • @RenxoLuizArturo1
    @RenxoLuizArturo1 3 месяца назад

    Anything’s Possible ,but for now i’ll blame DB Cooper,See that everybody back then is a suspect in the Zodiac case.😮‍💨

    • @toddaulner5393
      @toddaulner5393 3 месяца назад

      Wing walkers. Hmmm

    • @RenxoLuizArturo1
      @RenxoLuizArturo1 3 месяца назад

      @@toddaulner5393 😅😂Might aswell blame ‘The Mothman’.

  • @dannysee1
    @dannysee1 3 месяца назад +1

    Charles said he never killed anyone.

  • @randallreid424
    @randallreid424 3 месяца назад

    I do not know why I watch these and whoever the zodiac was if he was in his 40s at the time he’s probably dead and I don’t believe this will ever be solved unless a family member finds absolute proof and reports it, I read somewhere it may be SpongeBob do we know if he has been questioned and or debunked

  • @blackdot3538
    @blackdot3538 3 месяца назад +1

    There never was a Zodiac killer. It was a psy-ops. I can't say anymore. I've already said too much.

  • @nirajshuklaNL
    @nirajshuklaNL 3 месяца назад

    This fixation is a waste of creator talent

  • @chad3452
    @chad3452 2 месяца назад

    thats fabricated yo ... stale thats no where near zodi

  • @MedicMarc22
    @MedicMarc22 3 месяца назад

    We all know it’s Ted Cruz

  • @Jack-Johnson3889
    @Jack-Johnson3889 3 месяца назад

    Love the channel but this is all.lies lol

  • @DreamDateCharlie
    @DreamDateCharlie 2 месяца назад

    This video is so inaccurate it's laughable. Within the first minute the narrator made about five errors. Then He mentions Doreen Gaul and shows a photo of Marina Habe. HAHAHA. Do better research. This case is far too difficult for you.

  • @michaeloporto5202
    @michaeloporto5202 3 месяца назад

    No

  • @daniel-jm7lj
    @daniel-jm7lj 3 месяца назад +1

    Someone needs to look at ted cruz

  • @SciaticaDrums
    @SciaticaDrums 3 месяца назад

    Tex Watson. This must be why the Watson tapes have never been released. It's the only thing that makes sense. It literally explains everything concerning the actual murders.

    • @dragonmartijn
      @dragonmartijn 3 месяца назад

      You are sure it explains them, yet you never heard them yoursel? Apparently this Watson wrote a book himself, but does he mention this link himself?

  • @hankdieselify
    @hankdieselify 3 месяца назад

    Bullshit