The Startling Email from a DWP PIP Assessor
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- In This Video I go over the Shocking Email i received from a DWP Third Party Pip Assessor, confirming and stating information we knew already but just highlighting what it's like on the inside.
Do you think it's true what he's saying or is there a sinister motive?
All i know is WOW !! It left me STUMPED!
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Why am i not surprised by all this The DWP ARE CORRUPT and need firing an ordinary company such as Capita no way could they argue with a G.P .Neurosurgeon or what ever title they may hold can be argued by civilian staff who have no idea and are not allowed to read your medical reports its The professionals who should be in attendence with you at an assessment Mel Stride you need to watch these videos and hang your head in shame.I grew up in an NHS Background with 2 relatives who were charge nurses i spent 16 years as a qualified first aider i wanted to become a paramedic but a brain tumour stopped all that. even diagnose a holiday maker at a holiday camp with possible IBS Which proved accurate and my wifes bad lady problems again i was right.I took my late father to a G.P. And informed him my father had a urine problem i was wearing Med Fleece and the doctor asked me if i was a G.P. I said no but i have had a lot of training in First Aid
Corruption is spreading like wild fire throughout our land and the world.
You are not qualified,certified or insured to diagnose...so why are you trying to do so?Medically there is no such thing as ' lady problems' .If you have no medical credentials stay put of it...before you're sued.....The term is gynecological issues...just stop.Anybody can get a First Aid certificate.You need a minimum 3 years Anatomy and Physiology to have any medical credentials .
@@keepitreal665 quite, and no GP is asking in all seriousness, if someone who speaks like that “is a GP”. It would have been sarcastic, it asked at all.
Such embellishment simply doesn’t lend credibility
- actual medic.
This is a great example of where a bit of knowledge can be dangerous
Why do you think the DWP are corrupt when they only follow the rules set by the current government? It is these ministers that set the bureaucracy and targets not the DWP, they are following the rules and regulations set by this fascist govt.
I would have thought this was plainly obvious, there has been 14 years of austerity targeting the most vulnerable in society while their mates buy private jets and yachts from spunking away billions from private contracts. A prime example is Capita, put in place by the Tory cronies.
How the evil cronies in the DWP treat vulnerable persons in this country is an absolute disgrace
I have a broken spine, a hole in my spine, Lung disease and arthritis on top of depression...they just stopped my money without notice.... ice cold winter and I had no heating...could only get by with loans just to live..17 months wait for court... finally I won.. I was awarded 10 years none stop PIP...i ve never been so humiliated/cold/ and low in all my life...But I won hey
I was awarded PIP in 2020 for fibromyalgia. Lower rate daily living, no mobility. In 2021 I started developing serious symptoms of POTS, I get dizzy when I stand, and I get breathless ahd blackout/faint when I stay standing up for longer than a few minutes. I'm seeing a cardiologist for diagnosis but that alone took 1 year to get an appointment! I have to now use crutches at home and a wheelchair outside my home as it is unsafe for me to walk because I get dizzy, blackout/faint. I can't cook a meal and getting in and out the shower is extremely dangerous so I have my husband help me. In my PIP renewal in 2023 I told them this. Nothing more awarded, lower rate daily living, no mobility (i scored 4 on mobility as i did in 2020). So I did a Mandatory Reconsideration detailing exactly my symptoms and they gave me no more points, didnt even give me a reason. Their scores are the same as before all this started, point for point the same and no mobility awarded, just the same 4 points! So now I'm taking it to tribunal. I will fight this every step of the way. The thing that gives me the fight is I already know they are incredibly biased against us and they know people won't fight it at a tribunal. I know there are some people like "Andrew" but most of them are not, they think we are lying. My life has been flipped upside down with chronic illnesses and I will not stop fighting to better my life. I currently cannot work (after being in fulltime work for almost 20 years) and the £270 a month that DWP gives me is no where near enough to survive. When I asked citizens advice what evidence am I supposed to provide if confirmation of my symptoms from my cardiologist and my very detailed explanation isn't enough and they were shocked because what I provided is enough "proof" and they think i should get higher rate awarded on both daily living and mobility. I filed my tribunal at the end of March so now is the waiting game. Please send me good vibes!
What you have gone through is extremely common they have denied people PIP entirely who are dying and sent them a letter denying them after appeal when the person had died from the conditions they were seeking PIP for in the first place.
I was aware of this issue before I myself applied, so used my local welfare rights officer to help me fill out the forms as well as attend the assessment call…. because you will then get a fair assessment rather than a denial of you have a advocate with you that can dispute any lies they tell.
Good Luck !
I've entirely given up trying to get PIP, because as an autistic person, I am highly sensitive to the wording of questions, and realized very quickly that I was being asked the same question multiple ways, and being pressured towards a particular answer. I have trauma around this exact issue due to it being something that is done to me regularly by people who do not understand how autism works. Until the DWP ceases to exist, and is replaced with a system that actually works, it quite simply isn't worth the stress and trauma of going through a process that is designed to be harmful to the mental health of claimants. My mental health should not need to be destroyed in order to gain the benefits I am actually entitled to. And so, I am stuck living only on Universal Credit. That isn't living, it's surviving, but the alternative is that I don't survive because of the impact going through PIP assessment has on my mental health.
You can ask a professional help ypu fill out the form and be adamant on a paper based assessment so that they don't disturb you and can just ring the professional with any queries. The professional can guide you and be with you every step of the way .
Fair play to Andrew for letting us all the the truth
100% !! I got your email as well Kim but I'll respond when I can tomorrow as we're having a TV night on the sofa with the dogs chilling xx
I have lost my dwp/pip 4 times since being disabled every time I have done mandatory reconsideration and failed so gone to court and recieved it back its outrageous truly
That's so dehumanising and cruel
I've been about 6-8 times over the years even though my back is tucked and I'm in pain 24\7. My medical records and x-ray speak for itself but I was still being told in as fit as everyone else
Yes I won a tribunal and was made to do a a completely new application 8 months later
The whole dwp needs a shake up. If your an alcoholic or drug addict you get help but if your genuinely knackered you get no help. I remember a few year ago that poor lass who was a paraplegic and bed ridden was found fit for work..
My daughter has addicts living in flats near her,they get loads of money and cost of living payments.
They’re always out shoplifting and selling goods.
My daughter has two grown up children who’ve left home, she’s always worked and didn’t claim the paltry amount that she was entitled to off her council tax bill because they wanted to know the ins and outs of a cats arse.
Her kids have both got good jobs because their mother had a work ethic that she got from her parents.
I’m a carer still working age 69, most of my clients are in need of care but I have a couple who are playing the system and there’s nothing wrong with them. What am I supposed to do when I know someone who’s able to decorate and do their garden yet claims to be disabled!
Its not just dwp , its banks, insurance companies, energy providers et al......you are being ripped off wholesale EVERYWHERE!
Any worker for the GOV, be it jobcentre staff etc has to sign the official secrets act, that in its self is bad news what they are quietly up to in the background!
Very true !!
I get what he is saying about idiots applying for PIP I personnel think that your doctor or consultant should be the ones to recommend you for PIP as they know your medical condition better than anyone but the DWP can't control doctors
Yeh there does need to be more medical based stuff around it , they quote they use the evidence and I know others have said they've done it and requested it from their GP etc but I know personally speaking none of my evidence was ever used or requested when I filed a freedom of information.
I agree but unfortunately a fit note from your gp doesn’t hold that much weight in the DWP eyes…. I had a fit note and was told I had to come off esa and find a job basically….
Yet… if I was employed and handed a 2 week fit note into my employer but then went back to work after only having a week off, chances are, should I have an accident at work in that week, I wouldn’t be covered under my employers insurance as my doctor has deemed me NOT FIT for work.
In principle that’s good but my dr mentioned pip assuming I was on it I said I hadn’t heard of it he said I needed to be on it and would support me ,they said no ! After many years and me health deteriorating I’m now on pip but they don’t take any notice of dr ,consultants or care workers
@DynamicDuoUK hi Richard 👋🏽 I'm Richard to don't can't do telgram when I have an update soon hopefully 😂 keep you in the loop best of luck 💪🏼👊🏽✌🏽
@@DynamicDuoUK My GP doesn’t know me well at all. I have along and complex medical history and have only been registered there for a year. I can’t afford a £15 cab every time to go to the GP and most of what I say falls on deaf ears anyway. I supplied my own evidence after accessing my files medical record and took lots of photos of my mobility aids, my actual conditions, included reports from police, ambulance etc. and because it took 7 years for me to get PIP Imade a point the last time of highlighting all the evidence that wasn’t taken into account the last time around and put it in bold so they can’t ignore it again
Unfortunately when parts of services are sent onto private companies, it will be compromised!
It’s disgusting the way vulnerable ill people are treated, so disrespectful.
Thank you for this information
You're welcome and we whole heartedly agree. We're hopeful for some sort of change ❤️❤️
When my husband died two professional ppl from my housing association insisted that I claim for pip. Id always suffered from mental health but with medication, I'm stable. I told them I'm not sick enough to claim and stated I didn't want to. But they insisted and a few months later they were on my case. Questions they were asking were to much, and I told them nothing. I didn't respond to letters, which the second one was pretty abrupt. I ignored that and then they started phoning me. They're just trying to get more information about you and I'm not willing to. I don't need pip. Simple
This is all depressingly familiar. When my disabled wife was alive it was a constant battle with the DWP and included two tribunal hearings and an assesment by a dubious foreign doctor who was subsequently struck off for malpractice. They are a corrupt shower and should be closed down and replaced with a professional medically qualified system
I went for a pip assessment and the guy had to google my condition because he didn't know what it was, how can he assess me when they don’t know what the condition is 😂
🤣🤣 that's an instant fail on the dwps behalf straight away! 🤣 Take that to tribunal and your laughing all the way to the bank 🤣🤣
@@crichardson4789Yep, what it is is irrelevant.
we know we are despised, and hated. its good to know about the 45mins assessment time, as if they keep on at you through one question, they can only do it for so long, as they have to move on, or not do a complete job on your application. which gives you a good appeal argument. - (one point,) and it wont work for everyone, is a friend of mine, did their application through a specialist solicitor, and at the assessment end, he said "so will you notify me, ? or my solicitor"?, the guy hadn't read the bit where it was prepared and obviously read and filled in by the solicitor, - so he fumbled an answer to him, - and he passed. its not the cost, but the fact it had been completed beforehand by someone reputable.....when your on your own, your a little guy getting pushed around.....great video!!!
I have been claiming enhanced pip for approx 10yrs or so due to chronic illnesses. Few days ago I endured a 1hr 20min assessment of solid interrogation which has left me in a real dark place. The lady was really emotionless and my wife who is my carer also was with me and she was gobsmacked at how cold this assessor was to me. I was struggling to deal with it after 45mins and broke down telling her that this has made me feel worthless. My concentration levels aren't very good anyway but as this went on I was starting to struggle understanding questions but she kept pounding regardless. I just can't shake this feeling of emptiness I have now and can't think of anything else but the assessment. This has really really affected me bad.
So sorry you had to endure that. I lost my PIP a few years back. It took me 12 months to get it back, and they put me in the lowest bracket. I ended up living on 76 pound a week. It made me ill. JUST KEEP FIGHTING IT. ITS YOUR RIGHT.
I am so sorry for you. These people are heartless. Bless you x
I was told that by turning up to a PIP assessment and making an effort to dress properly (which anyone with self-respect would do) counts against you. But not making an effort proves you're not serious and counts against you.
You're right. At one of my tribunals they discussed whether they should continue to deny my claim because I'd filled in the form.
It's so sick. The DWP are like the Stazi back in East Germany. They literally make you sick.
I applied for a job several years ago with one of the third party companies who assess the PIP claimants & got offered an interview. While waiting they put me in the kitchen area & I sat listening to the "assessors" and other admin assistants sit having their break and taking the pee out of some of the applications. They were laughing and openly discussing things in front of a complete stranger (me). Thankfully I didn't get offered the job, but I would have turned it down anyway. It was disgraceful behaviour.
And this is what needs reporting more and more. I'd be interested to hear your story in detail because people do need to realise this is happening and shouldn't keep happening. It's pretty much them against us at the moment and that's horrible. Thank you for telling the world that we appreciate it and I'm glad you didn't set that job even if you didn't get offered it. X
The problme is they lie about what you tell them and when you prove they lied nothing happends to them because they are told they must fail as many as possible these scumbags are there to save the DWP money if it was a company you compline about them they would be disaplined sacked so on. But as its part of the plane to fail you there told do what you can .. why evertime you talk to them RECORDED THEM you can tell them or not its your right too . That's the only way you stop them from lying as when you fail and you appeal you talk to like judges NOT .DWP they are in the room but only to listen an ask some questions rest up to judges . When you show the transcript yours and there's you see the lies . Then you win . You get there transcript sent thro to you. So have yours printed out and.check word for words you see many missing (there'sor changed )
Wow again not surprised, totally believe everything he said. Thank you to Andrew for exposing the truth of disgusting DWP.
it certainly hits the nail on the head and seems to follow a process that the DWP and subsides follow, ive had similar reports but never fully in depth like this and it all matches seperate accounts so unless they all have a big what's app group together to discuss it then god knows! but i beleive it to be true.
I fought for my PIP all the way to the tribunal and won was given a lengthy award by the judges the DWP didn't even want to send my award notice and money to me until I phoned up and warned them if they didn't I would see them in Court and well few days later I got my award notice + money.
That's disgusting. At the end of the day a court is much higher up than the department for working pensions. They are not above the law and they need to keep realising this despite the fact they think they are. I'm glad you got your reward and it's a testament to other people. I actually cannot wait until the DWP collapse and something else takes over in its place because they are truly shocking and the staff that work for them at the moment are terrible and I don't care if that offends anyone. Well done to you. All the best
Well done for standing your ground!
100% true. Thanks to your source and you for getting this made known. I say if you get refused appeal and ask for a Mandatory Reconsideration - even though it can take time. Maybe if enough people took a civil action against the department the numbers might count, like the Hillsborough case.
The more overwhelming numbers against them shows something is up and they won't like that.
@@DynamicDuoUK True. Their goto reaction is usually offensive as defensive or stone walling. But writing to the department minister and secretary in email firstly then snail mail means by parliamentary law they are obligated to do something. Imagine getting 20k letters a week on constant basis. Plus forms of course, the department will have to process thousands, preferably millions or forms and calls to the lines. Good luck everyone
I'm in tears watching this . I had my assessment 2 years ago, it was the worst experience I have I have ever had . I have a rare blood cancer and anxiety told to apply for pips , my sister was with me for a phone interview as support . The assesser was 1 hour late from time scheduled, which made me start to panic then she said she would have to be quick so she could get back on track her end. I went to pieces my sister tried to explain what was happening the assesser was extremely rude to her and told her to shut up otherwise she would end the call. I tried my best to pull myself together the interview went on for 2 hours !! . I was awarded basic part of pips . When I got the letter through stating reasons for each bit she had lied changed what I had said . Tried to appeal but to no avail.
Thank you "Andrew" for finding the courage to speak out. As horrific as the PIP process is to go through, I'm glad that there's someone there who genuinely cares about us. I've spoken with a few condescending and abrupt assessors in the past and only one nice one. You guys are few and far between. I've met a few ex-assessors who said they quit because they couldn't handle the mental strain and toxic work environment as you described it. Thank you for trying your best to make a difference. Stay strong. ❤
You're very welcome and thank you for being here. It certainly seems like there is a lot more assessors starting to admit the truth now. Even the lady today clearly stated it's a stressful and sometimes horrible situation to be in with the work. She does take that as you will but it says to me they are starting to feel the strain. X
What is the point of sending in medical evidence if they don’t even read it! It clearly says on the forms that it’s your responsibility to provide medical evidence 🤷♀️
I had my assessment last week to continue my PIP after 5 years. They want to turn it into a new claim so they can fail me. If I lose I’ll be homeless and unable to use the medical equipment that helps me breathe so chances are I won’t be around for long. It took 8 attempts to get the assessment because every time I told them they were being recorded, they hung up the phone. I’m waiting for them to write to me with their decision…..
You *Andrew* are one in a million and I feel for you and what you have to do to able to look after your family. DWP have a lot to answer to !
The country is fuked
never even got the chance to use lube first either!
Some years ago my good friend Cath got a job at a DHSS Dole office in Newcastle. On her first day she found the doors locked, and a bunch of people standing around waiting for them to open. When they did, she asked where she should go. She was taken to her supervior, who guffawed, and said "Oh dear, I see you didn't come to the Staff Entrance, and all this time you've been out in the cold with the Great Unwashed!!" Lovely 🤨
That's horrible !! Not all those on benefits don't wash or can't, why do those who work for the DWP look down on others ? Baffles me !
@@DynamicDuoUK My Mam and Granma used to always tell me that wherever you go... school, job etc. there will always be ONE.... one person who, today we would call a sociopath. They are always passive aggressive..... which is very sly. Grrrrrr...🤐
Keep us informed Andy good man to expose the truth ❤
& thanks to Rick & Cara & sausage doggies ❤
Your very welcome !
Mental health workers are not qualified to assess autism one told us if you have a sense of humour you are not autistic. ABSOLUTELY BOLLOCKS
Agreed, I actually had one say to me I wasn't autistic because I wasn't having siezures, it's like they have a little note of bullet points and think every autistic person is the same.
Its a pity u cant take a professional with u x
Well done for reading this out as i have just been refused my pip she defo did the same to me lied so i did not get it now waiting for mandorey reconsideration but i wont hold my breath i will keep u informed thank u so much people should no what they are doing to people who have disabilities
Your welcome, I'm fed up of them treating people like this I've been through the same thing you have been through and won! Not once but twice ! They do lie, they break rules and they don't shed a tear as they never know you as a person but rather a number, it's time we all joined together and showed them the person not the number.
Best of luck to you with your process ❤️❤️
@@DynamicDuoUK Indeed i would face them in any court room and i would love for one of them to justify what my family has been threw the dwp owe me answers and till that day i wont be letting it go and will be back for justice once i can see better
@@tt_widowmaker4838 ❤️❤️❤️
Quite often now I wish I was dead rather than deal with DWP/PIP and the unbearable stress it causes …
So sorry sue to hear this xx 😞
@@DynamicDuoUK Thank you 🙏🏻. I’m not alone sadly …
I will teach you a trick learn to turn people off that upset you (I call it light switch turn off) as soon as you have done talking to them turn them off and think of anything else, have a treat waiting after a call is over and thank yourself for doing well with it..
THANK YOU RICH FOR THIS VIDEO, AS IT PUTS ME OFF CLAIM PIP, ETC OR ANY EXTRA MONEY ON TOP OF MY UNIVERSAL CREDIT, AS IF PEOPLE SHOW EVIDENCE THEY ARE SICK FROM THERE GP, THEN THEY SHOULD GET PIP, ETC, AS WHY DO THEY NEED TO BE ASSESSED BY THE DWP, WHO DO NOT LOOK AT MEDICAL EVIDENCE FROM YOUR GP AND HAVE ONLY TRICK QUESTIONS TO MAY YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE.
Try not to be put off it's a hard process don't get me wrong but it can be won and achieved it's been proven it's a long process and hard. Your right assesment is a horrible process doctors should be able to recommend for it as they are more officially trained for identifying things.
You should try anyway. Go to Citizens/Community Advice for help with filling in the form. If you're are entitled to it, at least try. And if you get turned down appeal it. Just try. And I pray you are successful. It's very intimating, but you are allowed to have someone with you to support you during any calls.
@@DynamicDuoUK I agree. I was asked for a doctor's letter. Why do they ask for evidence yet not look at it or take it into consideration? It's really corrupt and underhanded and I hope it changes. I really pray it does🙏
That's outrageous, and what's more infuriating is that Rishi Sunak is pushing a lot of people to get off benefits and go back to work, these include people with genuine disabilities, mental health issues and other illnesses. This needs to stop and quick because the amount of people who are feeling suicidal because they don't get what they deserve is staggering. I wish you both very well and sending lots and lots of love. Keep exposing these corrupt services.
Mike (Newcastle)
We already knew this anyway, but the more whistle-blowers come forward with the truth, the better in my view.
Exactly!
The DWP are not just currupt, they are highly trained and conditioned to find any spurious reason to fail in any applicants application. Assessments should only be made with a claimants doctor and then assessed by a medical panel for final decision. Then and then only should the assessment be sent over to the DWP with a recommendation for acceptance of Pip. The DWP should have NO part in any assessment proccess whatsoever. There are completely untrustworthy and not medically trained to carry out any level of medical examination, period.
Wow you have hit the nail on the head there!
From what I am reading, it is the medical assessor who is biased, even though they are supposed to be impartial. They are the ones who write the report which gets sent to a decision maker. i.e. the decision maker can only make the decision based on the report they receive.
So if that report is biased, lacks information, is only filled with positive abilities. That report is not a credible report, it is not actually the fault of the DWP decision maker. it is the assessors that are the problem.
They stopped my PIP last year based on a 2 MINUTE phone call. Didn't want to know whats wrong with me or how I'm affected. Reinstated it after 4 months and had the audacity to CONGRATULATE me.
Congratulate you ?...... Really ?
PIP absolutely unfit for purpose. Have just this week been turned down a 4th time after suffering a dozen heart attacks 12 years ago, ongoing heart disease, mobility terrible and painful most days. Have received 0 help in all that time. Beyond disgraceful.
Im sorry dude. Im too afraid to claim. At least you have tried.
My pip assessor lied throughout her report on me and I had to go through a tribunal. The tribunal spent 5 minutes talking to me then put me on hold then came back to me and said that your appeal is upheld. 45 minutes on an assessment, 5 mins for the tribunal to reverse the assessors report! I have a permanent disability, I’m never going to get better, and can have no more surgery, it would be too dangerous. I should never have to be assessed ever again. Thank God Scotland are changing this procedure to being medical based.
And now sunak is talking about removing doctors powers to give out fit notes alltogether,this is gonna make getting pip even harder
What this whistleblower says is 100% true, as I can attest from undergoing the PIP assessment every three years since 2007. The last time was last year, and it took me ALL of last year and a threat of tribunal to make them pay.
I am Autistic, ADHD, have CPTSD, Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, Interstitial Cystitis, Fibroids, Migraine, and Depression - yet they turn me down as a matter of course every time until I threaten to go to tribunal, at which point they magically call with an offer as if they never refused it in the first place. To top it all off, my dad has still not had his Pension Credit processed in over a year, and we’re threatening legal action. They are truly, utterly corrupt.
Look out for med beds free for all 6000 will help I also get spiritual healing very helpful
I had to go to court after 2 years for my partner, she was turned down twice, so went to court and won, keep pushing to go court you'll be heard by an impartial judge,dwp did'nt even turn up. Back dated payment for two years was awarded. 😊
Well done 👍
Good on you Sean 👍
To be honest my sister had a telephone assessment, after sending in her PIP form with supporting evidence. The assessor was uninterested in anything she said, kept cutting her off mid sentence, and only spent 20 minutes on the phone. After the call she said to me “they’re going to take it off me, I know they are”.
Then she received her award letter. The DWP case manager said they’d chosen to deviate from the assessors recommendations of a lessor award, based on the vast amount of supporting evidence received from medical professionals involved in her care. And had decided to award her the highest rate on both components.
So I don’t think we can judge all people in one role or another. Some are excellent in their job and recognise the failings of others. As can be seen from my sister’s case. Where maybe another case worker maybe wouldn’t have. Or if she’d have gotten a more competent assessor it wouldn’t have been an issue at all.
That's the way it should be done !! ❤️ I'm hoping that with enough push now on the system people are starting to realise and I seriously hope we've had some sort of effect in some way or another, even if it's only minimal. A massive congratulations to your sister. Wishing you all the best. Thank you for your story ❤️❤️
What exactly would a physiotherapist know about PTSD? The answer is nothing but they still assess for it.
Exactly.
This is abuse of power we need to hold these people accountable
Yes. I believe they are breaching artical 3 of human rights by degrading people.
The Tories benefit system is bad for ones health!
DWP told me in a letter that my GP would say whatever I told them to say don’t think they have met my GP
I was disabled and unable to walk. They stopped my money because they said if I was really as unwell as the Dr and I said then I would be more “ depressed “ . Apparently depression is completely visible
They are truly delusional!
a physiotherapist is NOT a doctor!
I'm a physio and trust me I'm better than most doctors. I've caught cancers etc when gp's have referred them to me for treatment.
Thanks for speaking out Andrew you are just confirming what we already knew. Some good news here My daughter got her PIP again now I can sleep and no more worrying did I say the right thing for the next 5 years when it all starts again. I didn't agree with the scores they gave her but thankfully what they did award kept her getting the same amount. Now I wait for my interrogation which is due soon!!
As Promised to "Andrew" I didn't post the email or details as promised to not breach data, i read it as best as i could sorry the eyes arent great today!! Truly Shocking !!
My 53yrs daughter has been taken from enhanced rate to basic pip...she's got copd..advanced emphazima..loss of hearing
Rheumatoid arthritis...can you please advise on how to get this investigated...thankyou for everything that you both do x
In court at the moment medical serve copd unable to work 5years ago yet still on esa poor system private company need to keep the numbers down I promised myself after my self-harm stay about long enough to win hopefully my lungs 🫁 hold out 😅 you man is right that's exactly what they do sent med records with all paperwork it give them less chance to coerce you 💪🏼👊🏽✌🏽❤️
These pip assessors lie left right and centre a person goes from 12 points higher rates to 0 fit to be prime minster some who has no legs seriously it’s setted up for person to lose unless they go tribunal
I was sent for a medical by the job centre arthritis and mental health .was told I would never work again .told to put in for pip on my medical. I didn't get one point .mental health prevented me from putting in for a review
That's horrific especially when they tell those with mental health to keep applying, it's an unfair system
Thankyou Richard and thankyou "Andrew" ❤
Your welcome 🤗 and yes thank you to him !
Shocking. Is this true? Yes, one thing DWP has done is extreme targets; they adapted the sales KPI technique to get people out of the system whenever they are disabled or not; it all depends on your character never back down to them.
I beleive this to be true i did respond to the indivudal but the email has since bounced back i can only assume it was an email address created to send the email? it does however fit in line with the practices that other DWP agents or staff have informed me about and is following a pattern also explained on other youtube content creators accounts
Yeah I can confirm, I've had Multiple Sclerosis for 23 years I did used to get DLA then got switched over to pip and unceremoniously told I didn't qualify for benefits I do a ten minuet walk to shop five days a week it's what stops me from ending up in a wheelchair because, that daily exercise is literally what stops what is left of my muscles from fading away completely, I cook for my daughter when she comes home from school and do the laundry, its not much but its about all I can do when its dry enough I cut the grass, this may sound strange to some but that can take up to 6 weeks to get over the pain of pushing a lawn mower round and raking moss, my record for moss raking is about 3 square meters! it tears my muscles and isn't easy to get over, but I have about 250 square meters of lawn! So I have a mossy lawn.
In short I do as much as I can when I can.
As for medication I literally cannot take things like anti depressants I wont take meds for my MS as the first time I tried the side effects almost killed me, the only response I got from my neurologist at the time was Anti depressants which I tried they also had a detrimental effect so I had to stop them also, SO my wife works full time to support the family and we live from paycheque to paycheque, every now and then we end up not being able to afford food shopping at the end of the month, But our daughter will always be fed.
I can't put into words how broken and corrupt our government is!
But I do know that bonfire night is a time for solemn reflection of what could have been.
Thank you for this scary video what DWP doing to their participants and staff working for them.
I think corruption is all over the place with the DWP.
You think the information between your work coach and advisors remains private and confidential, but trust me, it doesn't they don't even respect the claimant's confidentiality plenty rules and laws are broken.
Over riding a qualifying GP and putting life’s under a none professional will lead to the DWP going court and forking out millions in damages.
As soon as the process was contracted out to a third party with incentives for targets attached it was gonna take a wrong turn.
Exactly that!
Going back more than a decade ago, I know some one who applied for disability, a doctor was sent to assess them, and said they would have no problem, they would get the benefit. A couple of weeks later, they had a letter to say they had ‘lost the notes’ the original doctor wrote up. They would send another assessor out, needless to say the benefit was declined.
its a total f*k up isnt it!
The Govt taking Medical doctors out of the equation is so they can reduce the numbers of people claiming benefits. A Doctor is MORE qualified than a Nurse who are usually the ones carrying out those assessments, Furthermore Nurses, Physiotherapists etc are NOT qualified to make a Medical Diagnosis. , The Govt is Happy to pay a PRIVATE company taxpayers money to do these “alleged” assessments. Q1. HOW much is the Govt paying these companies. Q2. What is the qualifications of the assessor. Q3, HOW MUCH are they paid in commission for EACH rejected claim? Q4. Does ANY MP have interests in these private companies. Q5. HOW were the contracts awarded. and what are the Terms for these contracts?
Theyve turned me down 4 times and i suffer mental health plus copd and osteoarthritis but still turn me down, thanks for what you are doing. They made me feel like a liar, i work full time as i have no choice but i struggle so much and the pain gets unbearable. So much so i have days i cannot walk but its a case of plod on. They are so cruel but yet pay alcoholics when i have to work to live, i really shouldn't be working but ive always worked
I am In the same boat as you Karen suffer from chronic osteoarthritis due to breaking my legs in a RTA when. I was a child nearly 50 now and always worked trying to do the right thing they obviously hold it against you for working because you want to try and live a normal life I can't even score one point even though I have the medical history to prove I'm not making it up please don't let it get you down stay strong maybe one day things will improve for people like us who suffer in silence👍
When people have mental impairment the application and assessment is hell, having to go from your notes because of your memory issues and lacking a working memory then the result declines you on being 'perfectly functioning memory etc' because you talked to someone about the issues you face on the phone. It really is appalling and a totally unfair system.
this is spot on, i suffer with memory issues and have done for a while due to mental health issues and im not afraid to admit it, i had to do the same and because i was refering to notes they said " your capable of reading so cognitive function is intact " they then said the exact same copy and pasted sentance in relation to a mobility question, they are getting lazy and finding any reason to remove the benefit.
My family member has been on PIP since it was DLA from the age of 18...we had an appeal back in 2018..NOTHING has changed with them, however, we are now waiting for a court date for another appeal. Been waiting 5 months now!
I commented on another post
This is how it has been for me:
Pip declined at tribunal , no assessment or consultation .
( amputated finger & bone misdiagnosed as a laceration , turned away from treatment 6 times because of original diagnosis, causing whole hand to claw & severe pain .. N H S admitted fault of misdiagnosis after an investigation)
I’m a full time carer & lost my part time job because of it, living on carers allowance & £160 UC a month .
Council tax department also admitted to mistaking my identity and deducted £8,000 of my UC for six years & still rising ! . Mistaken identity goes back 34 years !
If I didn’t have the documented evidence of admittance from N H S and council tax no one would believe me .
I have PTSD because of both issues and receiving therapy.
Diagnosed CRPS , arthritis & dupytrens contracture .
At my tribunal they told me they used my application forms as their assessment, with no need for a consultation!!!
that all sounds very distressing and im so sorry you was put through that, its rare for them to use just applications forms and not an assesment, ive known it to happen but normally only in sucessful claims, all very odd and its like they just tried to brush you under the carpet !?
@@DynamicDuoUKthey did brush me under carpet .
I was asked if I buy china cups or get my haircut with money left over each month .
I just sat there open mouthed .
I wish ☹️
@@Dinadino994 disgraceful 😞😞 have you thought of sharing your story to the big issue or some publication like this? They might print it. More exposure on the disgusting way disabled people are treated in this country.
@@Dinadino994 id of been like who da f*k do you think i am a prince ? china cups or hair good lord lol they havent got a clue do they
@@colourfulcrafts5492 I’m up for it getting out there definitely.
I didn’t know who best to contact.
After my therapy session this week I started seeing the headlines regarding the same .
I now know I’m not alone in the carers scandal.
Thankyou
CHANGE OF CIRCUMSTANCES ... Firstly many thanks for all the valuable information you provide and all the hard work. I notified PIP or in my case ADP of a change of circumstance in Oct 2023, this is now 15th April 2024. I contacted ADP to see when my change of circumstances would be looked at. My answer from ADP was short simple and to be honest rude. "there is no deadline for a change of circumstances to be looked at and we are too busy still trying to get through ADP first claimants". The strange thing is I had to report the change of circumstance within a month or I could lose my entitlement altogether.
That is very rude response ! Should just have been more delicate and said we're very busy so sorry I can't give you a time frame, honestly I'd be better at customer services for the DWP 🤣!
This is like a filter system.. imagine each level trying to get rid of 50% of applicants at each level... each level doesnt know what the previous one has already rejected, and has the sole system set up to end up with about 20% success and 80% failure.. which stacks up to why 70% of refused applicants win on appeal in court.
I once was refused PIP in my assessment, because When I walked in the room I said hello and said goodbye.
I have been diagnosed with Schizoaffective disorder.
My Dr wrote to them to tell them I do not have any cognitive issues.
I did go to the tribunal and after being assessed by 3 different independent drs. PIP eventually paid out.
The System is set up to fail.
How can you not have cognitive issues with schizoaffective disorder? I have cognitive issues with bipolar.
They certainly have the money for illegal boat men, NHS Dentist,pocket money,rent paid.How dare they treat our disabled in this manner.Thank you Andrew for this information,we need more people like you to inform us all of what they do in the background.
Big thank you to Andrew for emailing you and confirming what disabled suspected. I myself am a housebound disabled and have not received any disability money since DWP stopped by DLA (over 8 years ago) and deleted all medical info they had for me after they where informed my medical notes where among that 700,000 lost. Andrew stay safe and thank you from the bottom of my heart for the email you sent to Dynamic Duo UK.
I ended up homeless and it took me 7 years to get PIP after my DLA award ended. They don’t just transfer your information or award anyway you have to start from scratch a) you need to go online and go into your medical record and take screenshots of anything relevant that talks about your conditions and b) you need to use their descriptors when explaining how your condition affects you so there is no ambiguity
@@SobrietyandSolace wow if ur homeless how can u do all that! everywhere is shut!!! all the council buildings are shut down since convid... and the rents have gone up as well as the council tax.. and all the houses are all falling apart!!... most houses are over 100 years old ... they should be giving them away for free... ots an utter joke!!
Yes social housing tenants paying 7% rent increase for black mould infested or asbestos filled "homes" black mould and asbestos cause lung diseases followed by death
OMG! Very interesting, it's worse than I thought! I'm now off to find out why my ESA payment has not reached my bank today! Will the problems ever end! Thank you for posting and please keep up your fantastic work.
if its like another subscriber then they would have stopped your payments, they did her and they used the excuse they are weeding out alot of them now and then when you call they sort it out basically closing claims down as they want you all on UC and not ESA.
@@DynamicDuoUK UC being a pilot for Universal Basic Income, right?
12 years ago after an accident I was off work for 14 months. I was denied any sick/disability after home assessment. One part the assessor claimed he had observed me climbing the stairs. I lived in a ground floor flat and had my leg in long term plaster.
I applied 4/5 times & zero points. 5-6 years stress of repeating sending evidence etc talk talk about every issue. I approached CAB & had a fantastic woman specialised in it, we finally went to Tribunal & won my case, 3 year back payment on top! So my advice is get the right help with people who know the law. Good luck everyone
The snoring part is true. Some friend of my mum's seems to think she can apply for snoring . But this explains why so many of my service users fail. A GP and a Consultant Psychiatrist vouches for them as well as OTs and social workers and nurses but the DWP still want to fail them. If they can fail someone with severe mental illness, they will fail everyone .
It's so odd because the DWP themselves state you can apply for this benefit for sleep apnea and it's like okay snoring is a part of it, I snore myself a lot and I always wake up with a closed throat and struggling to swallow or breathe through it, I sit up and usually it's fine, if that's the case then myself I qualify according to their guidelines. But I wouldn't do it because at the end of the day I'm fat so its bound to happen and snoring etc. I certainly wouldnt be phoning them tomorrow saying I snore lol
@@DynamicDuoUK Yes, you can definitely apply for sleep apnea. But , on Tiktok, it says you can apply for simply snoring. By that token, I could apply, and I don't have sleep apnea, which is ridiculous. The system is completely flawed. It is indeed a scam. I have fought for people on more than one occasion. If you have a disability/ health problem, any disability/ health issue, you can apply for PIP. They are supposed to look at how that disability affects your day to day activities and quality of life. The problem is that they make people who deserve it think that they don't, even when they have a formidable person like me strongly advocating for them .
I’m quite pissed that apparently 2million plus people are signed of permanent for mild anxiety , I have permanent disability that could possibly get worse with nerve pain ,I had to reapply 3 times they put me through hell one accessor took away 10 points for giving him my mobile number, like I have a limb that doesn’t work but my mobility points is a 0 😅 I’ve met junkies on the highest pip because of self induced problems from drugs so they give them more money to go buy more
You should ask yourself why they're junkies though.
My mums got a friend who was raped repeatedly and she self mediates with drugs and alcohol.
I can't speak for others but alot of users are hurting.
@@HillbillyYEEHAA I couldn’t care of there past we all have not to be blunt look at the guys who’s wife strangled there kids just finished a marathon , I managed to save a deposit while homeless on 162 a month ? I’d watch a pair of junkie couple get 1500 a week on joined uc and pip claims spend it all in a night after having a homeless meal too after getting paid would turn up to the homeless breakfast in the morning crying they had no money 🤣🤓 and these people were on the highest pip rate for coke induced skitzo
@@calamcouzens2090 So you want fair and just treatment yet you say you don't care about the past of someone on drugs? By "skits" do you mean schizophrenia? If so, do you know how serious and dangerous that is?
We all knew it, these people forget this could be their loved one,one day
i provided my intire medical history at an appeal but it was ignored by the judge and the assessors as they are not interested in what the real doctors say about my disability that has no known cure .
It's true and a shame they ignore the majority of the evidence available to them, it just proves there more driven on a high failure rate to turn over as many as they can as it's easier. It's disgusting
If this is true well PIP needs to be shut down ASAP and replaced by a something better it's putting vulnerable mentally unwell people at GREAT RISK , it is sick and Rishi needs to get a grip i really hope this is a Troll messing around wouldn't surprise me to be honest
It's hard to say because I've personally had this happen to me in terms of questioning and the general attitude, I've thought and won them twice because I knew what they was doing, I got called paranoid because of it but now it seems it's coming from multiple locations and sources the same thing so it would lead me to believe it's true, we don't get many trolls now there normally easy to spot and plus we don't give them the time of day now.
@@DynamicDuoUK Yes it could be true any chance you could get the person to send pictures of inside the PIP offices joking lol
@@deano_bites lmao can you imagine !!!
I can second that from Rich, I battled for 18 months & lost my claim after it had gone to court, I’ve also proved that mental health claims for PIP will Not be accepted & will be Nilled & Void, even though it says on the .Gov website that you can claim for both, this needs to be pulled from the site, it’s despicable & a disgrace to all those of us who suffer day in day out with our mental health & Not being allowed to claim PIP, take care guy’s🙏
Whenever at an appointment make sure you record your interaction as proof of what was said
100% i even beleive this to be the case now with appointments for GP's and mental health as a lot of things said are lies or twisted in reports in favour for them and not you as a person.
@@DynamicDuoUK very true ,they only have themselves to blame
If you can walk 50 meters you are fit for work, if you are fit for work and unemployed you will be required to travel up to 90 minutes from home for work. Big difference between 50m walk and 90 minutes travel. Carers allowance is also a scam, carer gets £320 a month but they take £160 from the care recipient, so it cost the DWP less to pay someone carers allowance than universal credit. When you factor in inflation, carers allowance payment today is equivalent to living on hardship allowance in the 1990's
And if the person getting the care is on housing benefit, that, that gets cut down because someone is getting carers allowance to look after them! Beggers belief. 😮
Can I just say @Kevharkins1 it's not 50meters anymore it's 20. Meters they changed it
Yeah that makes no sense to me. My CFS/ME is more that just my inability to walk. i.e. not all conditions can be fit into those boxes as to why I am LCWRA. I suffer with brain fog, extreme tiredness, but you have to translate that into mobilizing. Which does not fully capture why I can't work.
It is looking like they might change that to say, "they cant walk, but they can WFH".
My wife's case went to the home office during her appeal process the home office admitted that she had been wrongly assessed and actually they had miss counted (I think they gave her 7 but when we counted up ourselves using their figures it came to 8) she then qualified for the lower amount . Did she get it? no chance the DWP strung it out admitted the numbers had been added wrongly and instead of just awarding her the money they forced her to go through the whole process again from the start. She was exhausted with it all but went through it again only for them to give her 7 points and exclude her from an award. They just manipulated the figures to fit their agenda. Even our MP could do nothing. They should have accepted the home office ruling and admitted she had 8 points (which she did) they where so determined to "win" they kept het waiting and stressing for years what a bunch of frauds and what a rotten system.
Thank you for the update and information and its a real situation and l do believe him .its takes the guts to send you a email
It does yeh hopefully it's real and it would seem so as I've been in the situation he describes their staff doing etc.
@@DynamicDuoUK I believe him. But he's going to need actual evidence. Like recorded converations. Anyone calling any dodgy, contracted out entity like PIP really MUST record the conversations themselves!!! Don't let them know, and be cool. They may or may not make their own recordings of interviews, considering the amount of deeply stressed and jaded assessors have to do. I am currently in a contretent with my PIP swag.... Wish me luck! And good luck to you all 🥰
@@RachaelMorgan-om4xw wishing you the best of luck ! You got this 😁! Apparently they don't record when you request it , but then suddenly its available weird lol!
@@DynamicDuoUK Why aye! Mind I did say you can record a call with an interviewer, but do it secretly, for later ;)
Royal mail. Also corrupt
very true, can't even deliver mail on time, more profit in parcels our postie tells us, and he hates his job everyday walks past shouting i hate this fing job. so dont think hes happy lol
I had a bloke who worked at running an ambulance station before he went to atos 🤡 lied through his teeth, said he see me for an hour when it was 20mins
I even supplied my work clockings & Google map to show his lies for the MR but no one cared so I took them to tribunal & won most of it back but that was a year from hell
There are obviously ppl who play the system but there are many who do not and are refused their entitlement having paid into the system all their lives. The biggest issue for me is the disproportionate attention placed on ppl with disabilities V’s the BILLIONS we spend on wars around the world, foreign aid and lately, the millions spent on the Rwanda scheme whereby a foreign govt has received countless millions and we’ve sent 3 ppl there! all who have been Foreign Secretary’s.
If you arrive on our shores illegally, you are guaranteed a room & board with pocket money for yrs…unquestioned. Will somebody please make this makes sense to me?
Brilliant video.
We knew it, we know it. They knew it, they know it. Profit only based system. Tax payer money to these ngo's. Simple, and no accountability.
100% its coming out now, id love to see them have a pop at me for telling what we already knew! fools they are.
The DWP is forcing the grandmother of four to pay back more than £7,000 - more than a third of her life savings - after she failed to notify it about a change in her circumstances five years ago when she was in the early stages of dementia and 88 years old.
The Council sent out a bill for over £5000 saying they were not notified about a part time job. They lied and the notification was provided but they would not accept .. corrupt corrupt corrupt .. we need to stand together to say enough is enough. ..
dont surprise me, my mum had most of her bowel removed due to cancer, and was undergoing treatment for it moving into her lungs and she was refused PIP!! only after some doctors got involved and she was deemed terminally ill did she get accepted for PIP for just under a year before she died last year, we then informed them of her passing and 2 weeks later still paid money into her account then contacted us wanting it back!!
After a work related injury in 2021, resulting in 300 stitches, 50 staples, a skin graft, skin flap, and amputation, my mobility and balance are extremely limited.
I've had dealings with PIP and ESA. Can i walk to the shop? Not without a cane. Can i pick up a 2pint bottle of milk? Not by bending my legs. Can i walk up 2 steps? Not without a banister and doing it sideways. Sorry, ZERO points!
The questions they ask are made for you to fail.
Every day is a painful fight simply getting to the bathroom, and then I'm made to feel like I'm feigning injury from these so-called assessors. How do you fake an amputation?
I've yet to find any organisation that'll help properly either. Even the CAB were useless.
It's gotten to a stage that there's no fight left as each rejection is just another blow to an already shattered confidence.
I understand that there are people that play the system, but where's the help and empathy for those of us that have genuinely had life changing accidents? Where confidence is so low and anxiety so high that even making a phone call is met with dread and panic.
I feel completely let down and left to rot by these organisations.
You must fight this because you know they purposefully fail you because they know you won't fight it in court. Fight, go to court, don't give up! We have to stick together and support each other! You can do this! I filed my tribunal case in March this year. I'm terrified, I'm exhausted, I'm so stressed but I will fight damn it and so should everyone. Please fight this, you are not alone.
Oh I believe it! I know a claimant who was awarded zero points after applying. The denial letter stated they could drive in spite of suffering seizures! Applied a second time and was afforded full benefits.
This government would rather spend an ever increasing amount on the uninvited and ungrateful 'guests' arriving in greater numbers by the day, than support their own. Every government related payment, including pensions, in this country is already the lowest in Europe. We need to remember this contempt when we vote, get the usual suspects out and bring in new blood. Preferably people who love this country and arent just here to send money home, wherever that is.
no the govt doesn't give a shit about either, and fascist numpties like you jumping on the bash migrants bandwagon aren't helping at all.
You're confused and babbling shite.
Videos and inside information gives me sleepness nights sounds like a horror movie.
The DWP gives me nightmares at the best of times.
Is there a way to find out if decision makers are actually health ‘professionals’ or not? It would be very interesting to find out, and be able to throw it in the face of the tribunals if they aren’t!
I believe you could request in a freedom of information, however requesting it during an assessment doesn't go down well someone tried it before and they ended the assessment there and then!
Well said 😊
Decision makers are not medically trained. Most of us have already established this, but if you need confirmation, see below.
Taken from the government website: "Decisions on benefit entitlement are made by non medical decision makers."
If you want to verify this information for yourself, copy and paste the quoted sentence into Google, and you'll find the source.
A PiP DM cross references everything that was submitted by the customer alongside the report from the AP.. Their job is to find anomalies, what I mean by that is, if the AP says they can grip.... Whatever it is, but the customer indicated otherwise, they then amend the score accordingly, based upon all the evidence they have available to them. That's it in a nutshell.
I am reading the WCA handbook. They are not experts, and the handbook specifically says it is the assessors who are "experts" and they are not to use jargon in their reports.
Essentially the decision maker is using the evidence in the report to judge if you meet the LCWRA criteria. From what I undestand, they can recommend an award for LCWRA, but in their report they are not allowed to say "cannot walk 50m" they are only supposed to say "claimant claims they cannot walk 50m".
they make a descriptive report and not a "proscriptive" one.
The problem is when their report is BS.
I failed PIP twice i have a spinal disorder and can hardly move, i got disability through UC but still failed PIP until it changed to ADP and passed with no assessments and got full mobility and medium care within 5 weeks! When i applied for PIP it was all lies produced by the assessors and people really struggle because of these liars and causes hellish mental health problems!
You have highlighted fraud on the part of the DWP, under instruction from H M Government. Individual civil servants need to go to their trade unions and take a collective stand against the Government. All employees have the right to refuse to comply with any instruction from an employer which they know or reasonably believe is unlawful or illegal. And DWP managers need to realise that if they continue to push the fraud, there is only one place they will be going. The Civil Service unions have got to take a stand on this and put the Government in its place.
What is ADP
@@christinenewcombe5450 I wad about to ask that
Adult disability allowance
In Scotland
my sister used to be a welfare rights officer and said very similar to what the email writer said.
It appears this is accurate even talking through our own experiences today on a pip call, within an hour of its ending DWP had received the assessors report. So there is definitely some truth especially regarding their prices.
My daughter was awarded the higher payment for learning disabilities and autism, struggles with .making her own journey on buses. Needs prompting
Very interesting. Having had 3 face to face appointments with PIP assessors I believe him. Shocking to hear though.
I was mind blown and a jaw drop moment when I read it, had to read it several times in my head as well, but it is highly accurate and falls in line with what I've been hearing for the last two years. It's mind boggling to know it's still happening!
The British Government has spent £12 billion in aid and support to Ukraine as of 12 January 2024.
The Independent 13 August 2022 reports the British Government has handed out £35.8 billion to businesses from tax cuts.
Just find were the decision makers live
Andrew is a good soul and it bothers him bless him and his family...and duo blessings to both of u ❤️ 🙏