MCH-Duty High Output Product Overview
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Learn more about our new MCH-Duty High Output light.
0:00 Intro
0:59 Specs
1:24 Why 50k Candela?
3:24 Features
4:51 Evolution Of A Duty Light
5:12 Applications
6:18 Administrative Applications
7:09 Intended Uses
7:44 Durability
8:47 Field-Serviceable Lens
9:34 Pocket Clip Options
10:00 ND Protection
10:50 Professional Use
12:10 Outro 
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Shameless plug. Cop working graveyard in some of the worst parts of Vegas. Can’t tell you guys at CD enough how much I appreciate your guys support and the products you make. Use this flashlight every night on duty and it’s perfect. I was able to PID a guy tossing a gun over a fence who was trying to flee a scene with ease. Light punches through cars and ambient lighting very well too.
Hey man, city cop in the southern states here. I unfortunately recently lost my gen 1 MCH during a hot call, and felt absolutely naked during a K9 track for an armed subject a couple nights ago. How do you feel about the MCH duty vs the HC? My main concern is PID long-distance and punching through tinted windows when hunting dope. Secondary consideration is battery life, but I keep extra 18650s in my unit.
@@Gman902 I've used them both. I prefer the Duty for a few reasons; the color temperature is much more natural which allows you to identify things much more easily, the spill on the duty is wild (like 3x the spill of the HC), the throw is not quite as far as the HC but this thing still punches far - and not at the expense of situational awareness. Stay safe.
I'm 5 lights deep with CD: REIN 1 & 3, MCH HC, MCH DF and an OWL. I've been satisfied with them and had no problems with any of them except programming my MCH DF.
My criticisms are:
Control switches could be made better on the REIN lights. Less finicky, lower profile to start and maybe also more universally compatible.
MCH lights need knurled texture somewhere. When it's very cold and hands are super dry or hot and sweaty it feels extra slippery. I used a small ranger band on the MCH HC I use for work to make it grippier.
We don't need a charger with every light. I'd rather save the $10 or have the option for a second battery included.
Please keep a version of the OWL in your catalog, maybe make it slightly smaller.
Agreed on all points.
Re: knurling, my favorite is on the Convoy L7 --feels smooth to the touch, but extremely grippy when you actually grasp it.
Re: chargers, I have too many extras from CD bundles that I never opened since I have an XTAR VC4, which is a better charger anyway. Wonder why CD doesn't allow the option to opt out of a charger...
Just put some Goon/Hockey tape or Camo form for some textured grip.
Use my MCH and Chino every night at work. Great lights.
Love to hear it. Thanks for the support!
Makes perfect sense, like the mode options, just ordered one today, and it already shipped. Thanks for the customer service! I’ve got the MCH HC and love it.
just got mine, and boy does it feel good in my hand. lights up my backyard like a dream. Also came with some sick stickers! One note: Please include a manual explaining the settings and so on.
I understand you would loose DF capability, but I would definitely like to see a 21700 version. Id be the first in line to buy a 21700 version of this.
Great product. Just got mine . I have the MCH HC and love it but I think the duty is the best compromise between lumens and candela. Like carrying the sun in you’re pocket. Love the duel fuel capability and programming different modes tho that’s been a bit tricky for me. Excellent workmanship and finish. Well done gentlemen…..
This is one of my favorite lights
As a die hard Modlite guy.. this thing looks next level.
"Busted looking for EPL" 😂
Classic haha
Yeessss 😂😂😂
Same
Cloud keeps killing it. I can't go back. Glad to see these products coming from my home state. Let's get another EPL update out please and maybe a direct mount mlok light body for the Rein 3 (think reptilia torch)
Great tool. He is extremely critical of of duty light in the sense of edc. I carry it for duty and off duty in shorts and pants. No issue at all. Easy to carry as edc.
Ordered the DF when I came out, would have ordered this instead over that one. Guess I’ll be getting this one.
So looking forward to the serviceable lens. I bought two with my rein 1.0
Love my mch
Love to hear it!
Cool I'll see about getting it on my channel and we will see how it stacks up.
Link for purchase? Looks great gang! Can’t wait….
I’m so happy y’all are talking about lumens. The mUh CAnDeLa people are gonna lose their minds
We all need both. 😂
"BUSTED LOOKING FOR EPL" hahahaha I love you dudes.
Maaaaan, right after I buy a mch for duty use
REIN 1.0 be sneakin' back in a different shirt
Will we ever get an owl 2.0? Maybe a solid mlok mounted body, or the same old picitinny but with light weight cuts and futurized?
11:00 I laughed a little bit more than I should have, lmao.
We were waiting for someone to catch that haha
Random question and odd application, commercial fishing in Maine, we spear suckers at night in 2 ish foot deep brooks to use as lobster bait. We took a rein 2.0 and a dual fuel scout light pro. The cloud out preformed at the randomly specific task. Out preformed by far. What light of clouds would you consider best for this type of randomness?
MCH HC will penetrate the water the best. But MCH Duty will be tougher if this is a high-impact-type-of-use. Can’t go wrong either way.
my only question is if it is dual fuel could you also put 2 18350s in it or only 18650/cr123s
Any plans on releasing a clear anodized version in the future 🤔
Does the MCH Duty use the same lens as the REIN 1.0? I tried to check on your website, but don't see anything on it, and want to make sure I order the right spare part for mine.
When you update it in May, please make it textured. My hands are rarely dry at work.
Curious, but is the lens on the MCH replaceable as well?
Also definitely digging the MCH I just got. 👍
Only the Duty lens is replaceable. Glad you like the MCH sir!
How is the heat off the head after prolonged use on high? My MCH 1.0 HC gets mega hot quick. Will the head work on MCH 1.0 bodies (assuming the tailcap works too)? I'm all for the one click high power and don't need dual fuel. I'd be curious to know if the duty body with my HC head would make a MCH 2.0??
Really looking to add this light to my collection but feel having the MCH 1.0 is redundant.
Thank you CD!
PS - Love the EPL joke!
Duty has actually been optimized thermally as well. So while it does get warm, it does not get screaming hot. Additionally, it has more mass so it handles the heat better.
@@CloudDefensive Do you not consider 124° to be "screaming hot"? That's how hot mine gets after two minutes of constant operation, measured where the body meets the head and where the edge of my hand rests when holding the light in an icepick grip. I simply cannot use it for any longer than that and have to shut it off.
figured id give my input on potential features and other things, I'm a mechanic and fairly serious shooter, and I've got a streamlight protac 2lx thats been my daily driver for 2ish years now and it has been a VERY hard two years on this light and its been amazing to me.
#1 great thing about the 2lx is its small diameter, it fits in the 1" belt loops that are becoming common on work pants these days, the thyrm switchback would work just fine holding it in one of those loops but not so great holding it on the right side of my back pocket next to my wallet. I feel that a thyrm switchback with a 90 degree offset pocket clip would fix both these issues, but that's for thyrm to mess with, but obviously head size will always limit performance as such with modern technology
#2 big plus with this light is that it'll do a low/high mode which is perfect for wrenching so as to not get blinded by constant reflections off of metal components that are inches away from my eyes. programmable modes are a huge selling point for me
if yall make any money off these ideas all I ask is for a case of beer, or a light if I haven't bought one by then.
Would love a longer light like the streamlight stinger. I love my mch but it's too small to put under an armpit to free up your hands.
Why not get a switchback then?
@@romanholowka9558 because that doesn't solve the problem. I want to illuminate what is in my hands.
Looks nice. I'd be very tempted to pick one up, but that's going to depend on if you guys address the flickering issues I've been having since receiving my Rein 2.0 with my second attempt with your support.
The light I have doesn't stand up to the kinda marketing on display here, and your support somehow missed the issue I've been having the first time.
Hopefully with the video of the issue I sent along this time you guys can help me out, because I'd like to pick up more of these products. On paper they're exactly what I'm looking for, and the EPL sounds intriguing as well.
make sure the tailcap portion with the slots for the cable is very tight, I have run into the same issue. I used a screwdriver to put a little more torque on it and that fixed it immediately.
My MCH high candela single broke after being dropped static 4 feet onto the concrete. Caused a catastrophic malfunction in the tailcap which their lights are known for. Very disappointed.
@@JohnDoe-wz7lw how was the customer service?
@@James-uf3tpSUCKS
@@James-uf3tp Been through all this with their support, to the point where I was tightening the tail cap with a screwdriver, as well as the tail/head with a wrench, which is very, very annoying to even think about having to do, since it means I would now need a tool just to swap a battery in the field.
Didn't work. Battery jack has also been tightened a ton too, both before and after installing the head. No dice.
They took it back, claimed they couldn't find anything wrong with it, and told me to torque it some more like you just did. I assumed they actually looked it over when I got it back, put it back on the build and didn't think about it much till I had time to revisit that project recently, only to find it's just as bad as before I sent it off.
Does it have a "tactical" tailcap or a "clicky" tailcap.
How long can it hold 50,000 cd and 1,800 lumens before it starts stepping down in power?
Off of 1 18650, at 1800 lumens it MIGHT last 20 seconds before its down to 1200 lumens
Then gradually stepping down and by the 3 minute mark down to about 650-700 lumens where it will remain for the remainder of the batteries life.
Of course these companies won’t actually give its customers a breakdown of this, they will try to just sell guys on “1800 lumens” … but anybody know what’s flashlights know that’s simply not sustainable AT ALL on 1 18650 battery… for any useable amount of time. Terrible move going with 1800 lumens on this. A light like this should be 1,200 lumens at turn on MAX…. And even then within 5 minutes it’ll be down to about the 700 lumen mark.
Also, 1800 lumens will make that LED super hot, and create a significant chance of that LED burning itself up …
Probably about 10 seconds. Watch Werkz videos. Their lumen and candela numbers fall short. Still great lights, but they use instant on numbers which drop almost immediately. So the numbers quoted aren’t the actual functioning numbers.
@@SteelCityIceBirds what’s worse is if you read cloud defensive website on the product page for this light.
It states that the runtime is 60 minutes on “full power”
It’s beyond false advertising and false information….
You will NOT get 60 minutes on “full power” you will get 10-20 seconds on a fresh battery at “full power” then the output will drop SIGNIFICANTLY…. if you try using this light for 8 mins + steady on, you will be getting at most 700 lumens.
Really wish they’d just upload a chart showing lumen output and runtime which would illustrate how the output falls over time and where it levels out to an actual sustainable level.
The website should state “1800 lumens AT TURN ON, then drops to “X” after “x” minutes and “x” after “x” minutes at the very least.
@@callofduty60 And good luck holding onto the light for three minutes of constant operation. Holding the light and using an IR thermometer, the head of the light where it meets the body was up to 124° F after just two minutes. I literally couldn't continue holding on to it and had to shut it off and set it down.
@@gtrspeed5311 yup, not surprising at all.
1,800 lumens is just way too much for a flashlight of this size. It makes absolutely no sense.
I dislike cloud defensive in general due to the sub-par build quality. With that said I’d highly recommend looking into the modlite HOG. It has quickly become one of my favorite tactical flashlights. It’s certainly much larger and runs on a 21700 battery, but it outputs 1350 lumens and can actually sustain the output for a really decent amount of time. The light doesn’t get too hot to hold ect. It just makes way more sense.
1800 lumens out of an 18650 is just so dumb.
It won’t even sustain that output longer than 10-15 seconds then it’ll start dropping down in performance.
All that heat will negatively effect the battery and LED itself over time… id steer clear of this product for sure.
What is the run time on the respective modes?
We need the updated version to have texture. The mch is very slippery
Why not use constant current drivers?
Is there any rating on the CRI of the light?
So it like a cross between the MCH and the OWL.
Maybe MC Howl? HOWL time!
Is this body, head and tailcap compatible and swappable with other MCH lights?
Yes sir it is.
So basically a handheld Rein 1.0, but updated specs? Win.
Anyone have any idea on how the heat dissipation is on these? With this much light it seems like it’d be burning your hand up in 30 seconds
I’ve had one since it came out and have another cheaper thrunite with similar output and the cloud takes forever to heat up to the level as the thrunite does in a few seconds. I’m very surprised with how cool it stays
I just bought a HC, can I buy an EDC head for it?
This is a great flashlight..the only thing i dont get is why these high end (except olight they got it) flashlight company's still put a rubber tail switch which always breaks down over time! My latest surefire g2x is a little over a year old now and the rubber tail switch is already close to having a hole..granted i do use it every night at work but still.
Stupid request BUT... can you do a youtube short video on how to properly swap out the deep pocket clip for the Thyrm Switchback... I destroyed the O-rings on my MCH-HC-DF doing that 😂😂🤣🤣😭😭😭
So the other MCH’s are not duty rated? Are the rein’s not duty rated?
The MCH is still a great duty light. However, it was designed more for a pocket carry/EDC role. Many guys are out there using it on duty with great results. We just wanted to make something that was specifically designed for hard use, and not necessarily designed for pocket carry.
Do you guys have plans to make a headlamp?
We'll say it's definitely on the radar.
Thanks; can't wait!@@CloudDefensive
Still waiting for a pistol light I want that more
Available in cherry?
I feel this should of been a 21700. And get thrym to make a bigger switch back for the body.
1800 lumens burns a 18650 battery down fast.
Thrym already released a 21700 size switchback for Modlite’s 21700 lights
With a 21700 you lose the Dual Fuel capacity. We prioritized that.
@@CloudDefensive true
When will it be available and for how much $$$
It’s available now and it’s 249.99
How bout getting to that pistol light huh 👀
Multi-Configuration-Hammer.
Bingo. 😂
Interesting. What’s the price point.
249.99 and available now. 👊
Any chance i can buy that test light from you guys at a discounted price? 😂
Same head dimensions as og REIN?
Yessir.
Thank you for 5000k. That is of course the CORRECT temperature.
Too much output for a small light that runs on a single 18650.
1800 lumens isn’t sustainable on 1 18650.
You might get 20 seconds from turn on at 1800 lumens (and a a burnt hand from the heat) then it’ll step down very quickly. Within 2-3 minutes I bet your only outputting 700 lumens.
Would be very kind of a company to provide the whole story by providing charts with actual runtime / output for their lights.
Both CD and modlite just throw the highest output they can get at turn on and use that to market the light, neither company offer any insight in to how much time you actually have of that amount of usable light. Really frustrating especially while they are marketing to first responders.
Dimensions? Diameter of head, body, and OAL?
1.4” OD head. All the specs are now on the website as well.
Should've added a window break bezel 😎
The bezel is crenelated. It’s already been used to break windows. Haha
Shoot with 12ga plz
If ya get shot with 12g, I think ya have bigger problems than your light. 😂
EPL?
SOLD I have been married to SUREFIRE for the last 14 years no joke. After this video, we got a divorce and I have since gotten engaged to the CD MCH-DUTY-HO-DF I love this thing and the programable clicker oh yea!
Streamlight has a handful of lights over 1800 lumens.
Not like this one and not at 50,000 candela
@@CloudDefensive you’re right their HL-5x is 3500 lumens and 51000 candela. So it’s actually more.
That light uses 2 batteries and is a monster. Totally different tool.
@@CloudDefensive but it’s not. It’s used on duty by loads of people. Different approach to the same task.
Hold them side by side. They are not the same, sir. If that light serves people well, rock and roll. It’s not a contest for us. We’re just here to give people the best-possible USA-made tools possible.
Where pistol light?
Is it available now?
Available right now sir.
@@CloudDefensive yeah mine just showed up today!!
👊👊
Can’t wait for it to be rechargeable from the outside body instead of removing the battery to recharge , that is more realistic for law enforcement.
At this point, CD is just FUCKING with all of us and ignoring any and all updates for the EPL.
EPL when?
When it's ready.
CD sold me a bad MCH with a misaligned led and useless tint and they never make it right on me! Not worth to deal with a company that does not stand behind their products!
That's unfortunate. They sent me the wrong color MCH and had the right one at my door in a few days.
@@freneticfanatic lucky you!
Where’s the EPL!!!!!!!!!??????