I’m a light geek. I own all the lights, Cloud Defense , Streamlight, Modlight , Surefire and experiment with them on calls. My favorite overall is the MCH HC . It does better for me for vehicles, tree lines and large warehouses. I carry two on my belt when I’m in uniform. The MCH HC and Modlite PHL-V2.
Living on a farm, I chose the HC and it's the perfect light. Dogs go barking, can spot the armadillo or coyote or whatever out in the field. We use it so much, the wife said she wants one of her own. I'll have to oblige her wishes lol.
I did the exact same thing. Moved to a farm and within a week I went online and bought the HC to reach around my 15 acres. Love it. Will be buying more.
Been keeping track of CD since the owl came out and I finally pulled the trigger on a couple. Have a mch df edc and rein 3.0 out for delivery today and I’m pretty stoked to try them out.
Well, I was the surefire guy for well over 10/15 years and in the last video MCH DUTY WELL I ORDERED ONE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE YOU EVEN SET IT WITH THE CHARGER AND 3 DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUTTEN CONFIGURATION. I HAD NO IDEA. BUT THE FULL SEND WAS WHEN I WENT IN THE DARK BACK 30 ACRES WHERE I LIVE AND FIRED THAT THING UP WOW OFF THE HOOK. SO GOOD BUY SF IT WAS A LONG RELATIONSHIP 💔BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHEN ITS OVER AND ITS OVER! LOVE YOUR PRODUCTS!😍
I own and use the EDC for duty. If the the "Duty" was available at the time, I may have picked it instead, but I'm still very satisfied with my current light. That being said, even the EDC is built like a tank (a much smaller tank than the Duty, but still a tank none the less). If the "Duty" is a beefed up version of the EDC, maybe there will be beefier version of the HC in the future?? A little extra lumens? A few thousand more candela? and a much more aggressive/offensive exterior design??? I'll be holding out for the prospect of that light in the future.
Got mch-hc df. It's not perfect, but close. MCH is the ONLY 🇺🇸 tactical flashlight in the market with 1) high candela 2) WML class durability 3) dual fuel capability and 4) programmable mode groups. Especially those programmability is the killer feature for EDC use. That being said, I hope next gen MCH to have 1) sustained output in high mode e.g. REIN 3.0 and 2) replaceable bezel/optic. Dropped my MCH a few times, and it seems to get dings on bezel more easily than other flashlights I've used.
The only problem I have with the MCH (kinda nitpicking) is that the body doesn’t have any texture to aid in gripping the light. I understand completely that it was designed to be pocket carried and the slick body helps prevent snagging on pockets etc… but I would at least like the option of some kind of texture on the body of the light because at work if I get oil or something on my hands it gets a little slippery for my liking. Even with that I still love the lights and I think the overall design is hands down the best on the market right now.
If the duty had come out at the same time as the DF mch I probably would've gotten it. But since I have a DF HC I'm not getting the duty. HC for win with the battery life, also having more candela is always nice
The update has been the same all along. We'll release it when it's ready, and when we have an update, you'll be the first to know. Trust us, we want it out more than you guys do.
@@CloudDefensive Wonderful to hear, but seriously if y'all would make a nice little simple sit down and talk to the camera, and take 5 minutes to quickly update everyone on where things currently are in the EPL process, challenges, setbacks, achievements maybe even a little expected live date? That would be Fantastic! Thank You!
@@michaelfabian2401 You guys act like rabid dogs with no date. They're supposed to give a date and risk missing it? What does all that matter anyway? It's not going to get it done any faster man. Be happy they're releasing several other products.
@@johndunbar2393 I mean I guess I/we can continue buying Surefire and Streamlight. No shortages there, now LAPG, Holosun and many other are coming out with pistol lights as well. I guess as a customer and someone wanting to give CD my hard earned money, I thought asking them for a little update on the process of the EPL would be acceptable? Even if it’s another year off, marketing wise, to get our company message to all my customers I would want the info to be out there and updated. But I guess that’s just how I run my business. Isn’t America beautiful 🤘
Excellent and informative video. I’ll be ordering the EDC. As a retired LEO, I just want something to pocket carry to light up the night (and bad guy).
This is completely normal on any high output light. Our light heads are also designed to dissipate heat into the atmosphere, and once shut off, cool off much faster than other brands. Others tend to soak heat into the battery which causes low runtimes and stepping down in power much faster. This video goes into a bit more detail. ruclips.net/user/shortsA508Ovtnqzo?si=EaTzTlT8xYBt8oCM All jokes aside, it's a common question but nothing to be concerned about.
Im used to big lights I have been a surefire fan boy for years and a collector as well. as of yesterday i got my first mch duty ho df on the way as well as a chicro for my wife i got the duty for edc because i am very rough on equipment and i like that i can service the lens myself
I bought a duty just cause anyway. Learned it's not the best pocket light as y'all mentioned, possible but don't attempt to hold it after a long use. I'll likely just have multiple anyway 😂.
I now have the Chicro, great admin light, the duty and as of today, the MCH DF HC, I think I have all my bases covered. Awesome light, awesome performance. 👍👍
Yes sir. If you have any of our programmable MCH lights they can all be set to the following: Mode 1: High-only (100%) Mode 2: Low (10%), High (100%) Mode 3: High (100%), Low (10%) Mode 4: Very Low (5%), Medium (30%), High (100%) Mode 5: High (100%), Medium (30%), Very Low (5%)
Love the video, but the warranty might be better on surefire, I rather it not fail but I also don’t want to be out a couple hundred dollars, i trying to decide between cloud defense, modlite and surefire I will go with with who has the best warranty.
What I’d love to see from CD is: better availability (lots of OOS items on the site 24/7), lower prices on the Rein 2 and Rein 1, pistol lights that crush the X300 Turbo while fitting X300 holsters.
Thanks for the feedback. All of our flagship products have been in stock for quite some time now. The REIN is very competitively priced. It's priced lower than other lights in it's class and it has better performance than all of them. We're working on the pistol light :)
Soooo how does it stand up to the Nitecore P20ix? Cause its 4k lumen with glass breakers, tactical mode, strobe mode and edc mode. I would really like to know cause i heard great things about your company.
I’d like to see a no shits given big light with a massive rechargeable battery. Something that competes with the Maglite LEDs. Those guys have a flashlight with a battery that will last WEEKSs on the lowest setting. It’s not always about having the highest amount of output. I think battery life takes priority over massive output.
hey guys, i am a u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active , i would love one of these around 2000 to 3000 lumens BUT i can only trade for it here , if you know anybody out there , i can swap/trade stuff here , no $ to buy , i am totally broke ! , i e.d.c. a klarus g15/4000 lumens light as my main e.d.c , ok, thanks n talk soon > tom !
I’m a light geek. I own all the lights, Cloud Defense , Streamlight, Modlight , Surefire and experiment with them on calls. My favorite overall is the MCH HC . It does better for me for vehicles, tree lines and large warehouses. I carry two on my belt when I’m in uniform. The MCH HC and Modlite PHL-V2.
I appreciate this video. Makes choosing a light for the intended use much more simple.
Glad you liked it! We're working hard to produce more content that is education for you all.
Living on a farm, I chose the HC and it's the perfect light. Dogs go barking, can spot the armadillo or coyote or whatever out in the field. We use it so much, the wife said she wants one of her own. I'll have to oblige her wishes lol.
Yep, that's a perfect application for the HC!
I did the exact same thing. Moved to a farm and within a week I went online and bought the HC to reach around my 15 acres. Love it. Will be buying more.
Been keeping track of CD since the owl came out and I finally pulled the trigger on a couple. Have a mch df edc and rein 3.0 out for delivery today and I’m pretty stoked to try them out.
Nice! Enjoy!!
Awesome Break down , very helpful , I have the Chiro, and the MCH EDC. love them
Thanks for the feedback!
I’d love a pistol light with output similar to that of the edc 👀👀
…that fits in X300 holsters 😉
@@Honezjr100%
Well, I was the surefire guy for well over 10/15 years and in the last video MCH DUTY WELL I ORDERED ONE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE YOU EVEN SET IT WITH THE CHARGER AND 3 DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUTTEN CONFIGURATION. I HAD NO IDEA. BUT THE FULL SEND WAS WHEN I WENT IN THE DARK BACK 30 ACRES WHERE I LIVE AND FIRED THAT THING UP WOW OFF THE HOOK. SO GOOD BUY SF IT WAS A LONG RELATIONSHIP 💔BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHEN ITS OVER AND ITS OVER! LOVE YOUR PRODUCTS!😍
Love to hear it!
6:36 When will the battery holders be released for 18650/18350? Thanks.
I own and use the EDC for duty. If the the "Duty" was available at the time, I may have picked it instead, but I'm still very satisfied with my current light. That being said, even the EDC is built like a tank (a much smaller tank than the Duty, but still a tank none the less). If the "Duty" is a beefed up version of the EDC, maybe there will be beefier version of the HC in the future?? A little extra lumens? A few thousand more candela? and a much more aggressive/offensive exterior design??? I'll be holding out for the prospect of that light in the future.
Great. Now I need all of them.
This is the way.
@@CloudDefensive to get in trouble with my wife
The video I’ve been waiting for……..even though the correct answer is always all of them 😅
Bought one for my Son-in-law for Christmas, after he charged the battery and we tested it , I went and bought one for myself the next day.
Happy to hear it! Enjoy your new MCH.
Not clear enough. Bought all 3 by mistake (i wish)
Got mch-hc df. It's not perfect, but close. MCH is the ONLY 🇺🇸 tactical flashlight in the market with 1) high candela 2) WML class durability 3) dual fuel capability and 4) programmable mode groups. Especially those programmability is the killer feature for EDC use. That being said, I hope next gen MCH to have 1) sustained output in high mode e.g. REIN 3.0 and 2) replaceable bezel/optic. Dropped my MCH a few times, and it seems to get dings on bezel more easily than other flashlights I've used.
Thank you for this guide. Going with the EDC for sure!
I like the duty. Even if it’s too big and bulges out my pocket then it just added another unintended benefit 😉.
The only problem I have with the MCH (kinda nitpicking) is that the body doesn’t have any texture to aid in gripping the light. I understand completely that it was designed to be pocket carried and the slick body helps prevent snagging on pockets etc… but I would at least like the option of some kind of texture on the body of the light because at work if I get oil or something on my hands it gets a little slippery for my liking. Even with that I still love the lights and I think the overall design is hands down the best on the market right now.
Have you come up with a third party grip?
You can toss a mini ranger band on it and it will probably give you what you're looking for, texture wise.
Love my edc df. Probably will be picking up the duty at some point too.
If the duty had come out at the same time as the DF mch I probably would've gotten it. But since I have a DF HC I'm not getting the duty. HC for win with the battery life, also having more candela is always nice
How about a little 10 month later EPL update for the people who buy and support your whole business?
The update has been the same all along. We'll release it when it's ready, and when we have an update, you'll be the first to know. Trust us, we want it out more than you guys do.
@@CloudDefensive Wonderful to hear, but seriously if y'all would make a nice little simple sit down and talk to the camera, and take 5 minutes to quickly update everyone on where things currently are in the EPL process, challenges, setbacks, achievements maybe even a little expected live date? That would be Fantastic! Thank You!
@@michaelfabian2401 You guys act like rabid dogs with no date. They're supposed to give a date and risk missing it? What does all that matter anyway? It's not going to get it done any faster man. Be happy they're releasing several other products.
@@johndunbar2393 I mean I guess I/we can continue buying Surefire and Streamlight. No shortages there, now LAPG, Holosun and many other are coming out with pistol lights as well. I guess as a customer and someone wanting to give CD my hard earned money, I thought asking them for a little update on the process of the EPL would be acceptable? Even if it’s another year off, marketing wise, to get our company message to all my customers I would want the info to be out there and updated. But I guess that’s just how I run my business. Isn’t America beautiful 🤘
Ordered the duty. Anyone know what light pouch that is at5.49 and 6.36
Defense Mechanisms
Excellent and informative video. I’ll be ordering the EDC. As a retired LEO, I just want something to pocket carry to light up the night (and bad guy).
Just ordered the EDC and the Duty 🤙🏾
Anyone else's MCH HC get hot AF in less than 2 minutes?
This is completely normal on any high output light. Our light heads are also designed to dissipate heat into the atmosphere, and once shut off, cool off much faster than other brands. Others tend to soak heat into the battery which causes low runtimes and stepping down in power much faster.
This video goes into a bit more detail. ruclips.net/user/shortsA508Ovtnqzo?si=EaTzTlT8xYBt8oCM
All jokes aside, it's a common question but nothing to be concerned about.
I couldn't decide. So I decided to stop being poor and ordered one of each, including the Chicro.
Wise choice!
That’s how it’s done
Not for almost $300 after taxes. No wonder they don’t mention pricing in this video.
Im used to big lights I have been a surefire fan boy for years and a collector as well. as of yesterday i got my first mch duty ho df on the way as well as a chicro for my wife i got the duty for edc because i am very rough on equipment and i like that i can service the lens myself
I bought a duty just cause anyway. Learned it's not the best pocket light as y'all mentioned, possible but don't attempt to hold it after a long use. I'll likely just have multiple anyway 😂.
If I can edc a shadow systems xr920 with an extra mag I’ll go with the duty and take an hc for my lightweight system
bought 5 more cloud lights on fathers day. their sale is lit. go spend all your moneys guys.
So the dual fuel HC is 80,000 candela but the 18650 only HC is 71,000? And the 71,000 one is also the one that came on the rein 2, correct?
I now have the Chicro, great admin light, the duty and as of today, the MCH DF HC, I think I have all my bases covered. Awesome light, awesome performance. 👍👍
Does the edc have replacement lens like the duty?
Picked up the 3.0 from OP , haven’t installed it yet. Great video.
hard chpice for me between hc and edc
Anyone know what that holster is on the belt?
So on the MCH HC you can program low mode down to 10% power ?
Yes sir. If you have any of our programmable MCH lights they can all be set to the following:
Mode 1: High-only (100%)
Mode 2: Low (10%), High (100%)
Mode 3: High (100%), Low (10%)
Mode 4: Very Low (5%), Medium (30%), High (100%)
Mode 5: High (100%), Medium (30%), Very Low (5%)
Great video
MCH HC is my duty light, MCH DF is my EDC.
HC is clutch for pushing past mixed lighting conditions (photonic barriers) and dark window tint.
Love the video, but the warranty might be better on surefire, I rather it not fail but I also don’t want to be out a couple hundred dollars, i trying to decide between cloud defense, modlite and surefire I will go with with who has the best warranty.
We stand behind our products and offer are lifetime transferable warranty. www.clouddefensive.com/warranty/
What I’d love to see from CD is: better availability (lots of OOS items on the site 24/7), lower prices on the Rein 2 and Rein 1, pistol lights that crush the X300 Turbo while fitting X300 holsters.
Thanks for the feedback. All of our flagship products have been in stock for quite some time now. The REIN is very competitively priced. It's priced lower than other lights in it's class and it has better performance than all of them. We're working on the pistol light :)
Soooo how does it stand up to the Nitecore P20ix? Cause its 4k lumen with glass breakers, tactical mode, strobe mode and edc mode. I would really like to know cause i heard great things about your company.
I’d like to see a no shits given big light with a massive rechargeable battery. Something that competes with the Maglite LEDs. Those guys have a flashlight with a battery that will last WEEKSs on the lowest setting. It’s not always about having the highest amount of output. I think battery life takes priority over massive output.
MCH Duty wins.
Bereli has them for $100 this weekend
hey guys, i am a u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active , i would love one of these around 2000 to 3000 lumens BUT i can only trade for it here , if you know anybody out there , i can swap/trade stuff here , no $ to buy , i am totally broke ! , i e.d.c. a klarus g15/4000 lumens light as my main e.d.c , ok, thanks n talk soon > tom !