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@@TommyTombstoneweird concept: maybe it was a joke, considering I have a job that doesn’t require a firearm so it really doesn’t matter if I have a “duty light” or not Another weird concept: who said I was taking to you
Wow .. that scenario with headlights behind him or hos beside the car with headlights on really sent this message home! I understand the problem clearly! Very cool job man..
The comparison of lights with different background lighting explains things better than any words can, excellent demonstration. This video really hits the point that all tools are not alike and the fact of you need to know what the numbers mean.
@SageDynamics Fantastic video, thanks for taking the time to include the examples... was truly eye opening. I EDC appendix carry the TLR7 on my G17 and will be looking at the Turbo for my G34 nightstand gun.
Great video. I wanted to get a TLR7A for duty just to have a smaller holster. More comfortable when sitting in a patrol car. Decided against it when I read more about the lock out feature engaging while in the holster. Agencies issuing the light are experiencing this. I’ll stick with the TLR 1 HL and X300.
@@ajsomp how the hell are they going to get all those crayon eaters to go through a low light course? It was hard enough to get range time as is, I wonder what there plan is.
Thank you for making this comparison. It has brought things to my attention, that I never thought of. Respect. *edit to 7:00 ish comment. Civillians could come under situations where the TLR-7 isn't enough for the same reasons. If I do get one, I'll keep it for home use. I carry 4 magazines not for more ammo, but for failures.
I just did a night shoot a used a tlr7a on my concealed carry 19. I am definitely trading performance for comfort of appendix carry. When my rifle setup is 100% then ill spend them money on a sure fire. I will say your not comparing apples to apples. I appreciate the videos you make because i truely do trust your opinions and value the knowledge you share.
Any recommendations for people with Glock 22 Gen3 as I have heard there are malfunctions with mounted lights? Others say to change the coils in the mags or use heavier ammo (gr). Suggestions Streamlight tlr7x or Surefire x3000 turbo for Glock 22 Gen3???
could you do a demonstration on concealing larger a wml and/or larger pistols effectively? maybe on different body types if you could? maybe you already have and i could look. but i’d like to see your thoughts on concealing these bulkier items and maybe concealing other items as well like TQs or fixed blades or backup pistols. im gonna look through ur backlog, really appreciate your perspective and knowledge on these subjects!
Agree 100% this is a great light for concealed carry. Most if not all my concealed carry guns have this light. LAPD is issuing this light with the FN 509. Don't think it's a duty light at all.
my first pistol light was a tlr-1hl along with a knock off one and within 50 yards its hard to tell which is more powerful. I snagged a tlr7a on a pawnshop find recently and immediately was thinking exactly what you have said and shown here.
I run a pair of TLR7s on my 9mm and 10mm carry guns. I have no experience with being "on duty" and I trust your experience on that greatly, but for me using it for CCW and backcountry carry in the dark woods it works _for me_ . I also carry a secondary flashlight that has a lot more horsepower so I have light. Great video man, thanks as always.
And that’s great! I have one that I use for a fun gun, because all of my guns have a light. A home Defense or CCW, the TLR-7 makes perfect sense, as you either have limited ambient light in home, or compactness in a CCW roll
I wonder if there would need to be a discussion on what a CCW holder should look for, and if a duty light would suit their needs. Because, I could see the problems in what you demonstrated as also being problems in what a CCW might face also.
I tried using it for a while for my edc, and wasn’t too much of a fan. I had previously used the TLR6 on my Shield for a few years so I was initially really stoked about going from about 100 lumens to 500. However, I live in relatively urban area and ambient light was really making me feel uneasy about it’s performance. I sold my shield for a mid frame and upgraded to carrying a TLR1. I still have the 7, however I’m keeping it on my home defense gun where most likely it’ll be used in low light and if there is an engagement, it won’t be beyond 10 yards.
As a civilian, my question to an officer or anyone using a light for duty purposes would be, shouldn’t you not be using this light in some of the ways you mentioned. Such as in a nighttime traffic stop. Because then you just pointed your firearm at a potentially innocent person. Shouldn’t the gun only be aimed at someone when a real threat is posed. Therefore a regular flashlight in an opposing hand is the proper method? Asking this question honestly. Not sure what the proper legal use of a weapon light is in these instances
Came into this vid thinking critical thoughts but you landed the point home hard on this one with great b roll to show your points as you were making them. Great vid and explanation.
Thanks, Aaron, I've been seeing a lot of these Tlr7's lately on duty weapons. Granted, the x300 are big, but you have more power and also in case you have to get someone off you in a split second !!!
The TLR-1 HL is noticeably shorter than the X300. The x300ultra and tlr-1HL are very close in performance, with the x300ultra maybe being a touch better. The x300turbo has crazy high candela, but you sacrifice a lot of flood to get it.
I used it during a low light class. From just shooting and holstering, the bezel rotated and deactivated the light. I’m glad I found out in a training environment and not on duty. TLR1HL went back on the G19.
Hey Aaron, have you seen the Hellfire Pistol Sight Set from Mak Optics? I was looking for irons for my Glock and ran into these on OpticsPlanet. You should review them.
Seems to be several comments stating certain departments are issued X gun with X light and cannot use anything else… What departments in what states? I find it odd that departments still exists or have policies that limit the use of your own ppe….?
For light-bearing, I run x300u-b. For non-lightbearing, I run slick. My lightbearing are for hours of limited visibility potentia/ walking the GSD. While the others are for the rest.always have a secondary light for admin, but it makes no sense to me not to have at least a secondary light source,
My rule: The bigger the gun, the bigger the light. PS. The TLR7 does appear to have diffuser over the LED. If you look at it side by side with a TLR1 you can see what I am talking about. I would be very curious how the light would behave without that. As for CCW purposes, the light is there for more than one reason. Yes it provides you with light to see a target, but it also serves as a way of preventing your pistol from being pressed out of battery. Now when you bump up to the compact 4" pistol you need to consider a TLR1 or TLR1 HL as the TLR7 isn't going to jut out enough. Just a little food for thought. Of course there are pros and cons to everything. If you like the handheld only life then more power to you. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide why they want to incorporate somwthing into their system.
It’s not a diffuser, it’s part of the TIR collimating array. The thing you see covering the led is actually to redirect stray light from the led back down to the main reflector.
Finally a person with some sense; I’ll never understand seeing dudes with tlr7s on glock 17/19 sized guns. 4” and above gets an x300 or tlr1, or modlite if you swing that way.
Love the holster, i think its going to be the go due to the axon product that turns the body cam on. Just got the holster and first thing i checked was if the TLR 1 HL fit and nope it didnt which is backwards to me
While I may not disagree with everything you said, let's keep things in perspective. Would more light be better in a number of circumstances? Sure. However, we cannot expect a light to be bright enough to solve all problems either. Sometimes when I experiment clearing indoors, a 1000 lumen light bouncing on things in front of me, or even bouncing off objects I want to see glares too much at times, especially considering that these are types that only has one brightness settings and usually used in situation not calm enough to fiddle wiht brightness settings. I started with an X200, and then switched to X300 soon after it came out. TLR7 has multiple times output compared to those. Sure, X300 Ultra might be twice as bright and even more intense in candela. However, these things tend to keep leap frog. I say there is a fat chance that TLR7 is brighter than about half of X300 models currently on law enforcement officer's guns which those officers purchased many years ago. Not every cops go buy the latest and greatest, and it is not like an old model X300 with not even 200 lumes is better for no other reason that it is a Surefire. But, I don't see anyone urging cops to replace the old X300. Okay, maybe you might. And, it is not always about brightness. I find it not practical to flip down the bad flip up-down switch design of the X300 if I need to shoot one haded with any reasonable degree of ease. While I do appreciate Surefire's reliability and toughness, ergonomic or other area wise, it is a company that is pathetic in terms of innovation. I am not even talking about something mindblowing. Even in simple things like a better switch design, there is very little improvement in anything from them.
I want a light that doesn’t stick out past my muzzle. If you run a compact barrel and the light sticks out further that the barrel, what’s the point of having a compact? Know what I mean?
Aaron, I am correct in saying the TLR-7Sub is currently the only light that will fit on the Sig P365 due to its propriety rail design? Thanks much , as I figured you probably know. Cheers!
You may have reviewed this already for your patreon subscribers, but id be super curious to know your thoughts on the sig foxtrot 2r. It's got a lower lumen count than most full size lights, but a higher candela rating than a lot of "duty" lights. It seems like its trying to be a mini (and i mean mini) PLHv2 for guns like the G43x/G48 and p365 series (afaik it's the highest candela offering that fits that size profile by a fairly large margin)
The 7 has a place on my normal work carry gun because it's small and my workplace doesn't let us carry. Any other time the normal pistol comes out with a full size light.
wish more people made holsters for the tlr9 as it keeps the great switches from the 7 but has 1000 lumens and while not as good as the x300u, its close. A turbo style revision on both tlrs would also be great.
YES. Love my TLR9. But definitely tough to find a holster. Even for a Glock. Damn near impossible for an M&P, and that's my preference. 9 deserves more love for sure.
Swapped from a TLR 7 to a TLR 1 HL for the very performance reasons you listed. It's not even the brightest/most candela on the market, and it's still a huge improvement. The extra weight and bulk on my 19 are hardly noticeable carried AIWB.
Slide/light length really doesn’t matter for AIWB until it’s long enough to impede leg rotation. Most people can fit a full length slide no problem. The longer slide may even help push the grip into your body.
My agency issues the Nighstick copy of the TLR-7 and it is not enough light output. This wouldn’t be such an issue if our holsters weren’t only compatible with TLR-7 footprint lights. Wider weapon lights like the TLR-1 or X300 will not fit. I had to buy a TLR-9 for better output, but it is still nothing compared to an X300.
Good analysis. I have a 7a on my G19 for bedside duty. Its a good fit for inside my home. If if I strap on a belt (duty belt or war belt) I'd want a 1-HL or X300. Seems like aesthetics > function still rule the day...or wallet.
For my Glock 45MOS carry I went with a SureFire X300T-B changed it from the X300U-B and a Trijicon RMR Type 2 1MOA On my Glock 19X I had some Additions made Slide had Glock Gen5 for serrations added and milled to run Heinie suppressor height Straight Eight sights with Trijicon RMR RM06 3.25 MOA. I added SLR Magwell to it also. Then I added a SilencerCo threaded barrel with a SureFire Ryder 9 TI2. I had a stipple job done and added a Johnny Glock Combat OEM trigger. The weaponlight is a SureFire X400V-B with an ARES Tactical holster on a Safariland QLS setup. For my Glock 19MOS CCW the difference is I use a SureFire XC2-B and I use a Blackpoint Tactical Mini Wing Light Mounted holster. Also no milling of any kind since its MOS and has the front serrations. When I used a Glock 22 and 17 I used SureFire X300U-B.
There is also a trend toward coupling the smaller lights with duty holsters that have a more compact opening. Sig and Aliengear just released a new duty holster that specifies the use of the TLR7/Foxtrot2. It prevents access to the trigger while holstered. I believe Safariland has done the same thing with their new SafariVault holster. That doesn’t negate the deficiencies of the smaller lights, but it’s a trend based on a perceived need, not cosmetics.
@@ja0298 at least on the Sig/Aliengear partnership, it is, in part, an attempt to restrict access to the trigger while the gun is holstered. It’s one of the areas that has been identified as contributing to the “my gun went off all by itself” phenomenon. At least that was what I was told by my Sig Representative.
Guess it's a good thing I don't use mine for duty. I do love the fact that it sits flush with the muzzle. What I hate is the buttons. I'd much rather have the tilt switch.
@@rackpull772maybe it's just my hands. My thumb just tends to fall more naturally on the switch. I've rep'd pushing the buttons thousands of times and still have to fish for it a lot.
@@rackpull772they make a TLR9 which uses the same switches as the TLR7 but is a full size 1000lm light. Unsure if there has been a proper vetting/review of that light out there, never really hear much about it.
@@AncientMorbidity1991 isn’t the tlr9 the same length as the x300? The length has been the main issue. The head of the x300 ends up digging into my groin when I sent down.
I conceal a ported c2 with Holosun EPS MRS and Surefire x300, and ANYTIME I posted a pic of it, I get ‘why do you have a light that’s 2” longer than the muzzle?’ (It’s .9” btw). It doesn’t affect concealability, and I get the capability of a full power duty light with no trade off…
The problem is Safariland, we have HK VP9’s, if we want an optic & a level 3 holster, we have to run the TLR7 or XC1. Safariland needs to make molds for duty lights not micro lights.
The TLR1hl has been beat around on my farm for several years now. Handguns, rifles, PCCs, and once or twice to coyote hunt with a 308. It's NOT a modern rifle light, but it has done some good work for me. For "handgun" ranges it's an affordable beast.
I’m a bail agent/fugitive recovery. All I do is hit houses/locations looking for wanted individuals. My hellcat pro is equipped with a TLR7 SUB and a 407k optic paired with night fision optic ready night sights. Works great for me
Honest assessment. I carry a pistol with a TLR-7A. It's an excellent light for it's size, but the lights on my larger non-conceal carry pistols are SureFire X300s. For what it's worth, I have drop tested the TLR-7A on concrete. It passed.
I'm puking and crying and thrashing around because he doesn't think my light is good enough for duty use
My day is ruined 😭😭
I'm literally crying rn 😢😢😢😢😢
I’m considering suing Aaron for pain and suffering. This kind of verbal violence will not stand. Stand with me in solidarity! 👊🏽
My disappointment is immeasurable
😂😂😂😂😊
Tlr7 a isn’t a duty light?!?
Now I need something more robust when I go to the office for my 9-5
Weird concept: maybe he wasn't talking to you
@@TommyTombstoneweird concept:
maybe it was a joke, considering I have a job that doesn’t require a firearm so it really doesn’t matter if I have a “duty light” or not
Another weird concept: who said I was taking to you
Wow .. that scenario with headlights behind him or hos beside the car with headlights on really sent this message home! I understand the problem clearly! Very cool job man..
The comparison of lights with different background lighting explains things better than any words can, excellent demonstration. This video really hits the point that all tools are not alike and the fact of you need to know what the numbers mean.
@SageDynamics Fantastic video, thanks for taking the time to include the examples... was truly eye opening. I EDC appendix carry the TLR7 on my G17 and will be looking at the Turbo for my G34 nightstand gun.
For some reason the clips of Aaron repeatedly taking a phone, gun and knife out of his pockets just cracked me up.
I would love it if they put the TLR-7 switches on the TLR1 or the X300.
Have you tried the ARC enhanced switches by PHLSTER? They work well on my X300U, for me at least.
I agree. I love the TLR7a controls and have grown to loathe the TLR1 in comparison.
I wonder if the TLR9 has the same candela issues
THIS! I actually sold my X300 just because my hands were too small to reach the switches well.
100% agree tlr 7 has the best switches. I can’t stand the switches on my x300
@@douglasshouganai2516 It's still half the candela of a TLR-1 HL, unfortunately.
Glad you posted this to YT as well 😂 definitely been interesting trying to explain this to dudes who are hard-set on using the TLR-7 for duty carry
Super helpful for law enforcement! And for specific use cases for us civies, too
Your beam comparisons with REAL WORLDish light conditions is HUGE! Nobody else is doing this content 🤙🏽🤙🏽🙏🏽
Great video. I wanted to get a TLR7A for duty just to have a smaller holster. More comfortable when sitting in a patrol car. Decided against it when I read more about the lock out feature engaging while in the holster. Agencies issuing the light are experiencing this. I’ll stick with the TLR 1 HL and X300.
My life has no meaning now that sage dynamics has not approved my weapon light 😔. I wish there were more options
What do you mean more options? If you're carrying an OWB duty weapon you have numerous higher output options.
@@NavYblu99 flush ccw optiond
@@tizben Your carry gun isnt a duty gun. It's a carry gun.
The video is about TLR7s on duty guns.
@tizben that's a carry gun, bro.
it's perfectly fine for that. You're not performing traffic stops at 2 in the morning.
You guys are right
I recently had a comment about my duty light on my duty carry which is the TLR7. Your explanation is really good. Thank you.
Appreciate the content. Hope you and yours are well.
Drops a video just to show us what we’re missing. Two thumbs up! 😊😊
Silhouette and PID, excellent and much needed PSA, thanks for sharing
I agree with Aaron. I have a TLR-7sub that is on a Staccato Cs for off duty carry. My duty weapon a Staccato P runs a x300-T
That's a expensive duty/off-duty pair. I'm envious.
The Coast Guard recently selected the TLR-7A for duty use and I immediately came to the same conclusion.
For who DSF or the whole fleet?
@@crey5561 fleet use. DSF is still separate
@@ajsomp how the hell are they going to get all those crayon eaters to go through a low light course? It was hard enough to get range time as is, I wonder what there plan is.
@@crey5561 my guess is that it won’t be part of the live fire course, and will be somehow encapsulated as a recurring LE task.
kinda wild. i would expect their specifications to be insane
Great backlighting visuals to back up the data! Very useful!
Lol, it's funny you release this video. I just watched Renfield where I'm pretty sure the female officer has a TL7 on her duty pistol.
Thank you for making this comparison. It has brought things to my attention, that I never thought of. Respect.
*edit to 7:00 ish comment. Civillians could come under situations where the TLR-7 isn't enough for the same reasons. If I do get one, I'll keep it for home use. I carry 4 magazines not for more ammo, but for failures.
Where is the "duty ready" montage??
Yo Arron! Looking good, glad to see you back in shape 🎉
Thanks for testing the range of this light. I can imagine the positive identification of what's in someone hands can mean life or death for a cop.
You make the best light oriented content. Great video!
Thank you Aaron, this video was sent to a few people I know immediately!!!
All 1811s in training at FLETC are issued a P320 3.9 inch barrel, with a Romeo 1 Pro TLR-7. That setup becomes their duty/carry weapon system.
Which agency are you speaking of?
@@bustacapp359he said 1811 which would be a special agent for any agency. So I’m assuming all of them
@@Boogitywoogity69nah. P320 with Romeo is HSI all day. IRS-CI goes to FLETC but issues Glocks for example
@@MellowFellowOfYellow ATF as well!
I just did a night shoot a used a tlr7a on my concealed carry 19. I am definitely trading performance for comfort of appendix carry. When my rifle setup is 100% then ill spend them money on a sure fire. I will say your not comparing apples to apples. I appreciate the videos you make because i truely do trust your opinions and value the knowledge you share.
Any recommendations for people with Glock 22 Gen3 as I have heard there are malfunctions with mounted lights? Others say to change the coils in the mags or use heavier ammo (gr). Suggestions Streamlight tlr7x or Surefire x3000 turbo for Glock 22 Gen3???
could you do a demonstration on concealing larger a wml and/or larger pistols effectively? maybe on different body types if you could? maybe you already have and i could look. but i’d like to see your thoughts on concealing these bulkier items and maybe concealing other items as well like TQs or fixed blades or backup pistols. im gonna look through ur backlog, really appreciate your perspective and knowledge on these subjects!
You gave me a lot to think about. Thanks!
Which video posted discussing the need or lack of need for a light on your firearm?
Agree 100% this is a great light for concealed carry. Most if not all my concealed carry guns have this light. LAPD is issuing this light with the FN 509. Don't think it's a duty light at all.
Or a duty gun
It's because the new approved level 3 holster is only compatible with the tlr 7.
my first pistol light was a tlr-1hl along with a knock off one and within 50 yards its hard to tell which is more powerful. I snagged a tlr7a on a pawnshop find recently and immediately was thinking exactly what you have said and shown here.
I run a pair of TLR7s on my 9mm and 10mm carry guns. I have no experience with being "on duty" and I trust your experience on that greatly, but for me using it for CCW and backcountry carry in the dark woods it works _for me_ . I also carry a secondary flashlight that has a lot more horsepower so I have light. Great video man, thanks as always.
So what you’re saying is you don’t use it for duty and therefore have no opinion on its duty capabilities? Weird comment lol
@@asphaltannihilator157that’s his comment on what works for him and his needs. Don’t be a needless asshole
He’s saying that he has two and they both work just great. He uses them for ccw and back country carrying, but doesn’t think that’s “duty”
@@asphaltannihilator157 the irony...
And that’s great! I have one that I use for a fun gun, because all of my guns have a light. A home Defense or CCW, the TLR-7 makes perfect sense, as you either have limited ambient light in home, or compactness in a CCW roll
This was a great video with great examplea shown, thank you!
I wonder if there would need to be a discussion on what a CCW holder should look for, and if a duty light would suit their needs. Because, I could see the problems in what you demonstrated as also being problems in what a CCW might face also.
No because wml's aren't really needed in ccw shootings
Hmmmm so will the market then work to deliver a compact profile weapon light that IS duty rated in terms of output?
I tried using it for a while for my edc, and wasn’t too much of a fan. I had previously used the TLR6 on my Shield for a few years so I was initially really stoked about going from about 100 lumens to 500. However, I live in relatively urban area and ambient light was really making me feel uneasy about it’s performance. I sold my shield for a mid frame and upgraded to carrying a TLR1. I still have the 7, however I’m keeping it on my home defense gun where most likely it’ll be used in low light and if there is an engagement, it won’t be beyond 10 yards.
Are you going to do your normal review process on the new Holosun 507 Comp?
Thanks for the PSA Aaron!
As a civilian, my question to an officer or anyone using a light for duty purposes would be, shouldn’t you not be using this light in some of the ways you mentioned. Such as in a nighttime traffic stop. Because then you just pointed your firearm at a potentially innocent person. Shouldn’t the gun only be aimed at someone when a real threat is posed. Therefore a regular flashlight in an opposing hand is the proper method? Asking this question honestly. Not sure what the proper legal use of a weapon light is in these instances
Curious on your thoughts on the sig foxtrot 2. Their electronics department seems to be a new animal these days
Came into this vid thinking critical thoughts but you landed the point home hard on this one with great b roll to show your points as you were making them. Great vid and explanation.
What about for airport LE duties? My issued duty weapon is a G19 and we carry it on/off duty.
Miss your great equipment reviews. Keep throwing us an occasional bone!
What better options are there for a G43X?
Thanks, Aaron, I've been seeing a lot of these Tlr7's lately on duty weapons. Granted, the x300 are big, but you have more power and also in case you have to get someone off you in a split second !!!
*gargle sounds intensify*
The TLR-1 HL is noticeably shorter than the X300.
The x300ultra and tlr-1HL are very close in performance, with the x300ultra maybe being a touch better.
The x300turbo has crazy high candela, but you sacrifice a lot of flood to get it.
One of the better tests i've seen on YT.
I used it during a low light class. From just shooting and holstering, the bezel rotated and deactivated the light. I’m glad I found out in a training environment and not on duty. TLR1HL went back on the G19.
Same thing happens to mine after about 50 rounds.
Hey Aaron, have you seen the Hellfire Pistol Sight Set from Mak Optics? I was looking for irons for my Glock and ran into these on OpticsPlanet. You should review them.
What's the barrel specs on that scar?
When is the M41-A Pulse Rifle review coming out?
What sights cowitness the romeo2?
Seems to be several comments stating certain departments are issued X gun with X light and cannot use anything else…
What departments in what states?
I find it odd that departments still exists or have policies that limit the use of your own ppe….?
For light-bearing, I run x300u-b. For non-lightbearing, I run slick. My lightbearing are for hours of limited visibility potentia/ walking the GSD. While the others are for the rest.always have a secondary light for admin, but it makes no sense to me not to have at least a secondary light source,
My rule: The bigger the gun, the bigger the light.
PS. The TLR7 does appear to have diffuser over the LED. If you look at it side by side with a TLR1 you can see what I am talking about. I would be very curious how the light would behave without that.
As for CCW purposes, the light is there for more than one reason. Yes it provides you with light to see a target, but it also serves as a way of preventing your pistol from being pressed out of battery. Now when you bump up to the compact 4" pistol you need to consider a TLR1 or TLR1 HL as the TLR7 isn't going to jut out enough.
Just a little food for thought. Of course there are pros and cons to everything. If you like the handheld only life then more power to you. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide why they want to incorporate somwthing into their system.
It’s not a diffuser, it’s part of the TIR collimating array. The thing you see covering the led is actually to redirect stray light from the led back down to the main reflector.
Finally a person with some sense; I’ll never understand seeing dudes with tlr7s on glock 17/19 sized guns. 4” and above gets an x300 or tlr1, or modlite if you swing that way.
Love the holster, i think its going to be the go due to the axon product that turns the body cam on.
Just got the holster and first thing i checked was if the TLR 1 HL fit and nope it didnt which is backwards to me
It does make for a smaller duty holester which is more comfortable in the car. (It wasn't my decision to go with it, i just get what im getting)
While I may not disagree with everything you said, let's keep things in perspective. Would more light be better in a number of circumstances? Sure. However, we cannot expect a light to be bright enough to solve all problems either. Sometimes when I experiment clearing indoors, a 1000 lumen light bouncing on things in front of me, or even bouncing off objects I want to see glares too much at times, especially considering that these are types that only has one brightness settings and usually used in situation not calm enough to fiddle wiht brightness settings.
I started with an X200, and then switched to X300 soon after it came out. TLR7 has multiple times output compared to those. Sure, X300 Ultra might be twice as bright and even more intense in candela. However, these things tend to keep leap frog. I say there is a fat chance that TLR7 is brighter than about half of X300 models currently on law enforcement officer's guns which those officers purchased many years ago. Not every cops go buy the latest and greatest, and it is not like an old model X300 with not even 200 lumes is better for no other reason that it is a Surefire. But, I don't see anyone urging cops to replace the old X300. Okay, maybe you might.
And, it is not always about brightness. I find it not practical to flip down the bad flip up-down switch design of the X300 if I need to shoot one haded with any reasonable degree of ease. While I do appreciate Surefire's reliability and toughness, ergonomic or other area wise, it is a company that is pathetic in terms of innovation. I am not even talking about something mindblowing. Even in simple things like a better switch design, there is very little improvement in anything from them.
I want a light that doesn’t stick out past my muzzle. If you run a compact barrel and the light sticks out further that the barrel, what’s the point of having a compact? Know what I mean?
In the extreme case of a contact shot, the light body can act as a stand-off device.
The video examples were excellent. You proved your case.
Aaron, I am correct in saying the TLR-7Sub is currently the only light that will fit on the Sig P365 due to its propriety rail design? Thanks much , as I figured you probably know. Cheers!
when are we getting a review on the pulse rifle??
What is your edc? G19? 19x?
You may have reviewed this already for your patreon subscribers, but id be super curious to know your thoughts on the sig foxtrot 2r.
It's got a lower lumen count than most full size lights, but a higher candela rating than a lot of "duty" lights.
It seems like its trying to be a mini (and i mean mini) PLHv2 for guns like the G43x/G48 and p365 series (afaik it's the highest candela offering that fits that size profile by a fairly large margin)
The 7 has a place on my normal work carry gun because it's small and my workplace doesn't let us carry. Any other time the normal pistol comes out with a full size light.
wish more people made holsters for the tlr9 as it keeps the great switches from the 7 but has 1000 lumens and while not as good as the x300u, its close. A turbo style revision on both tlrs would also be great.
It also runs off of a 16650
YES. Love my TLR9. But definitely tough to find a holster. Even for a Glock. Damn near impossible for an M&P, and that's my preference. 9 deserves more love for sure.
Soooooooooooooooooooo . . . this isn't a good pair with my SRO for duty use?
Swapped from a TLR 7 to a TLR 1 HL for the very performance reasons you listed. It's not even the brightest/most candela on the market, and it's still a huge improvement.
The extra weight and bulk on my 19 are hardly noticeable carried AIWB.
Slide/light length really doesn’t matter for AIWB until it’s long enough to impede leg rotation.
Most people can fit a full length slide no problem. The longer slide may even help push the grip into your body.
So if the Streamlight isn't good enough for twice the price of an Olight is it better to just go with he Olight to save cost while being disappointed.
My agency issues the Nighstick copy of the TLR-7 and it is not enough light output. This wouldn’t be such an issue if our holsters weren’t only compatible with TLR-7 footprint lights. Wider weapon lights like the TLR-1 or X300 will not fit. I had to buy a TLR-9 for better output, but it is still nothing compared to an X300.
Good analysis. I have a 7a on my G19 for bedside duty. Its a good fit for inside my home. If if I strap on a belt (duty belt or war belt) I'd want a 1-HL or X300. Seems like aesthetics > function still rule the day...or wallet.
What are your thoughts on the TLR1-HL vs Surefire X300T/A?
The T is a superior light.
Just to clarify: "T" as in TLR1 or X300 T?@@SageDynamics
@@kevintran9440 300
I see that M41A. When are we getting a review?
I’m going broke buying lights
It makes zero sense to neuter a light on a duty gun when the things it does well aren’t a limitation on a duty gun….
For my Glock 45MOS carry I went with a SureFire X300T-B changed it from the X300U-B and a Trijicon RMR Type 2 1MOA
On my Glock 19X I had some Additions made Slide had Glock Gen5 for serrations added and milled to run Heinie suppressor height Straight Eight sights with Trijicon RMR RM06 3.25 MOA. I added SLR Magwell to it also. Then I added a SilencerCo threaded barrel with a SureFire Ryder 9 TI2. I had a stipple job done and added a Johnny Glock Combat OEM trigger. The weaponlight is a SureFire X400V-B with an ARES Tactical holster on a Safariland QLS setup.
For my Glock 19MOS CCW the difference is I use a SureFire XC2-B and I use a Blackpoint Tactical Mini Wing Light Mounted holster. Also no milling of any kind since its MOS and has the front serrations.
When I used a Glock 22 and 17 I used SureFire X300U-B.
My dept just switched to TLR7A for the entire department and we are not allowed to run our own setup
Good to see you back in the land of the poors. Miss watching your stuff on a regular basis.
There is also a trend toward coupling the smaller lights with duty holsters that have a more compact opening. Sig and Aliengear just released a new duty holster that specifies the use of the TLR7/Foxtrot2. It prevents access to the trigger while holstered. I believe Safariland has done the same thing with their new SafariVault holster. That doesn’t negate the deficiencies of the smaller lights, but it’s a trend based on a perceived need, not cosmetics.
I wonder how much of that trend is from actual demand from duty personnel, or from the perceived demand based on social media trends.
@@ja0298 at least on the Sig/Aliengear partnership, it is, in part, an attempt to restrict access to the trigger while the gun is holstered. It’s one of the areas that has been identified as contributing to the “my gun went off all by itself” phenomenon. At least that was what I was told by my Sig Representative.
TLR-7A on my concealed carry glock 19. TLR-1 HL on my work gun. Has worked out well for the past handful of years.
Please do a review on the nightstick twm 30
Guess it's a good thing I don't use mine for duty.
I do love the fact that it sits flush with the muzzle. What I hate is the buttons. I'd much rather have the tilt switch.
I'm the opposite, I love the buttons compared to the toggle and wish they had them on a full size light
@@rackpull772 I am the same way. I couldn’t get behind the rocker switch of the TLR1HL.
@@rackpull772maybe it's just my hands. My thumb just tends to fall more naturally on the switch. I've rep'd pushing the buttons thousands of times and still have to fish for it a lot.
@@rackpull772they make a TLR9 which uses the same switches as the TLR7 but is a full size 1000lm light. Unsure if there has been a proper vetting/review of that light out there, never really hear much about it.
@@politicallyinsensitive4200 yeah man different things work for different people. It would be cool if we had different switch options for both lights
Still here, still subbed, still liking and pushing the signal to the masses. 😎
Sorry to get off topic but, is that an M41A Pulse Rifle i spy back there?
Miss you YT Friday videos, especially since Patreon will not work for me in your channel.....
I’m thinking of switching from my X300 to the TLR7 on my 19 mainly to have a shorter holster length and a little more comfort.
The TLR-9 is worth checking out also, I’ve been enjoying it and love the fact it doesn’t have to be removed to replace the batteries.
@@AncientMorbidity1991 isn’t the tlr9 the same length as the x300? The length has been the main issue. The head of the x300 ends up digging into my groin when I sent down.
It's a great concealed carry setup, especially in terms of comfort.
@@ja0298 They are pretty much the same length, the TLR-1 is a good choice that isn’t as long!
I conceal a ported c2 with Holosun EPS MRS and Surefire x300, and ANYTIME I posted a pic of it, I get ‘why do you have a light that’s 2” longer than the muzzle?’ (It’s .9” btw). It doesn’t affect concealability, and I get the capability of a full power duty light with no trade off…
The problem is Safariland, we have HK VP9’s, if we want an optic & a level 3 holster, we have to run the TLR7 or XC1. Safariland needs to make molds for duty lights not micro lights.
TLR-1 seems to work pretty good. The paddle switch isnt my favorite but..
I love the light over the sure fire because of the paddle length but I have to concede that it’s really touchy and easy to ND as opposed to the x300u
if they made a tlr1hl or x300t with the tlr7a style switches id never use another light
The TLR1hl has been beat around on my farm for several years now. Handguns, rifles, PCCs, and once or twice to coyote hunt with a 308. It's NOT a modern rifle light, but it has done some good work for me. For "handgun" ranges it's an affordable beast.
@@haloreachmadman555 Thats right !
I’m a bail agent/fugitive recovery. All I do is hit houses/locations looking for wanted individuals. My hellcat pro is equipped with a TLR7 SUB and a 407k optic paired with night fision optic ready night sights. Works great for me
Because you are using a small gun. Small guns get small lights. Your setup would not be appropriate for patrol use.
Pretty sure the TLR7 wasn’t ever intended to be a “duty” light and has NEVER been marketed as such. Most anyone with any common sense knows this.
I think there is universal trend that there will always be someone in an administration who just doesn’t have common sense.
Thank you for sharing on RUclips
I’ve also heard way to many TLR1s suffering the same flaw, and that’s the back hatch breaking off. Happened to mine too
Honest assessment. I carry a pistol with a TLR-7A. It's an excellent light for it's size, but the lights on my larger non-conceal carry pistols are SureFire X300s. For what it's worth, I have drop tested the TLR-7A on concrete. It passed.
Love the tlr7 on my CCW. Wish SF would update the switch on the x300T to be more like the Streamlight.
Nooooo I love the surefire switch operation.
I wish stream light would make their switch like SF
The turbo does not have a lot of flood that demonstration you did really showed me the importance of flood.
I think they use it for duty is cause you can change the battery in the field without a quarter
No weapon light would have met this criteria 10 years ago. Yet, people used them on duty. 🤷♂️