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Similar to the last video, I wouldn't use the concept of "all princesses being named 'Zelda' after SS Zelda" as proof of anything. After all, the story of Zelda II tells us that after his sister was cursed, the Prince of Hyrule declared that all girls born into the royal family would be named Zelda in her honor. So that part of the lore has already been retconned once. I wouldn't put it past the developers to retcon it again. Also, we already know Hyrule Historia is NOT the definitive guide to all things Zelda. After all, it contains an outdated version of the "official" timeline (in quotes because the note at the bottom of the page basically invalidates the idea of an official timeline, stating that fans can essentially be creative and make up their own version of events if they desire). So how many more of the lore dumps from that book have already been discarded or retconned by the Zelda team? We have no way of knowing because I seriously doubt anyone over at Nintendo is gonna tell us.

Good vid

16:30 this actually works with the canon of TOTK. It was confirmed that Sonia was a priestess of the goddess Hylia before she married and became Queen. (Also implied that she is also Hylia's descendent/blood) Since the temple of time that we see in TOTK is clearly a Zonai structure, it is more then likely that there was Hylian counter parts to the temple. It possibly was destroyed by a calamity or forgetting when the kingdom collapsed. The Temple of Time in the sky was likely made by the Zonai or even Rauru to show further union between the last two Zonai and their new kingdom. If she knew about the Master sword, she probably didn't say anything about it because there was no Hero to retrieve it. It also makes sense to me if Hyrule's original kingdom collapsed and then established a ruling system based on a theocratic system. So that could account for Sonia's status and why Rauru chose to marry her. Ppl clamor to religion in uncertain times. For all we know, the Zonai may have came from the sky but the Hylians might have been there first. The Zonai likely has their domaine in the depths, considering that their Zonai deposits can only be found there (and the mine in the sky was confirmed to have been moved there). Since the depths shows twili (who may I add are a sub race of hylians) and one other mystery race's influence, I bet you that the Zonai were a younger but more temporary empire. The Zonai probably collapsed when the calamity struck, or that mining for Zonai is was released Demise back from his spirit prison.

He worked better in Rebirth for me because I wasn't reading his dialogue and imagining he had the voice of Barney the Dinosaur which gets annoying to read.

I don't believe in any kind of timeline merger, but I had been theorizing that the TotK past was fully after the old timeline before the game came out.

Very cool video! I really really want to like this game. But I’m like 12 hours in and I just don’t like the puzzles. Like the actual sokubon puzzles do nothing for me. Wish I could find the cool stuff

I have to disagree on all 3 opening points. 1 - It's a soft reboot, not a full reboot. 2 - It's actually very simple and does not increase complexity at all. 3 - There is no convergence. It just seems like it due to the vast passage of time.

I was ready to call BS on this video... but actually makes some good sense. Good job my dudes. I just figured that the 2 founders were the same person, we just didn't know the story of their full timeline... but that has a ton more questions. This timeline makes more sense and I like the idea of the entire kingdom getting fully destroyed. Now, where do we put Echoes of Wisdom? Lol

Yoooo that Cave Noire packaging is so clean. I didn't know JP handled that differently either. I love a fun instruction manual lol. Remind me to show you my Omikron the Nomad Soul Prima Guide sometime I think you'd get a kick out of it

The Time Temple thing is making me think timelines leaked into each other somehow and in LoZ for Switch 2 we might see the effects of these ripples in time.

What is the gap between windwakers flooding and hyrule getting resestablished is really big? I never played spirit tracks so I’m assuming there’s something there that disproved this hunch easily

The problem is that Zelda herself didn’t alter time, and she cannot be the cause of the Zonai as they were a thing before she arrived and could create such a paradox. The infamous timeline split doesn’t happen because of Zelda directly. It happens because one of three things 1. Ganon kills her and link 2. Link goes back and talks to Zelda early stopping Ganondorf from getting the triforce. 3. Link not being around causes the great flood Not to mention the Rito existing before Ocarina of time makes no sense. The only possible explanation is that at the end of the child timeline, Hyrule Warriors happens, then after the events of the epilogue, Lana and Cia merged all the timelines together. Thus Rauru’s Hyrule is completely different, and Lana and Cia created the Zonai to fast track the creation of Hyrule in their blank slate world where legends of the three past timelines were left as obscure memories among the people along with other random artifacts

What if the Zonai are just aliens and the Temple of Time is their spaceship?

Subbing! Keep catching lightning my friend!!!

Hear me out: we decide to infinite TOTK as a collective, if no one had heard the apple falling, did it even fall?

Cait Sith is the comedic humor of the party. The accent, the charm, the attacks and the visual angles make having him as an active party member a... party. xD

I knew that there hasn't been a male gerudo in centuries since BotW, so when you take that there can only be ONE, it becomes obvious that Zelda goes back in time, but to after the downfall, regardless of timeline. The last canonical Ganon within Zelda is still going to be the Orc from the original 2 games. He wasn't revived after 2... presumably. So his later reincarnation means that Tears Ganon appeared after the Triforce was forgotten. It is never mentioned, to my memory in BotW, though it is showcased, but that was before they expanded on BotW. The Triforce was either forgotten or used to bring forth the Zonai to save those who were unable to survive any other way.

Really well made video!

I need to finish the Chadley stuff before hardmode and am struggling on the „last few“ (even with guided attempts). So, it may take a while until I get the hardmode trophy, but I’ll eventually get there. :P Bought and played Remake shortly before Rebirth Launch so I was late on the series and yeah, Hell House took me few hours on both, normal and hard. But at least on hard I was better prepared. I just have no good timing for blocks and stuff. ^^ I used Mana almost exclusively for reviving fallen Party Members. x)

Loved this video. You did a great job talking about the game without giving too much away, something that I think a lot of other VS videos struggle to do. I was obsessed over this game when it came out and still think about it all the time. It is far from perfect but at the same time redefines how you even think about evaluating the quality of a game. The developer commentary at the very end was one of the most genuine things I’ve seen in a game and made me respect the hell out of VS that much more.

I can never escape Berserk can I?

It's a neat theory, something to note is that Link in WW can use 5 of the Hidden Skills when countering, attacking, or defending. Finishing Blow, Shield Bash, Backstrike, Helm Splitter, and, arguably, the Great Spin/ Huricane Spin.

This video is what finally sold me on the game, and god I cannot say enough for getting me to try it. 40 hours later and its easily one of my favorite games I've played this year, even if it has the Outer WIlds problem of being near impossible to recommend to my friends without a little spoilers lol Excellent video, of an excellent game!

loved all the easter eggs in the video, really clever stuff! especially the chest (and the end)

Cait Sith name is from mythology

The simple fact of the matter is that Cait Sith - regardless of whether it is in Rebirth or the OG - degrades the story. Everything from his non-serious character design, to his unfunny, unredeemable demeanor, to his boring gameplay, to his insufferable voice acting is just awful. And to top it all off, Reeve himself is a coward: threatening (or kidnapping, in the OG) Marlene, and unwilling to personally take on the risks of combat himself. He's just a gutless, unwelcome corporate stooge - too cozy in his life of power and luxury to face the savages of a dangerous world. Simply put: Cait Sith is the Jar Jar Binks of FF7.

Just once I would like an explanation of what the heck "fusion of timelines" means outside of plot convenience. Splitting of timelines, alternate realities, blah blah quantum mechanics or something, but what even is "they came back together"? Everyone in every timeline suddenly has new colliding memories? It's overlooked every time I see these videos as an offhanded mention. Alternate realities branch out like a tree, they don't just grow back together.

I think it'd be really cool if Rauru and Sonia's Hyrule was the first civilization _before_ the Era of Hylia. Imagine it. Ganondorf's actions and threat causes the Golden Goddesses to send Hylia to protect the Triforce, Ganondorf goes on to become Demise (or at least called that, regardless of his actual name or is a name he adopts for himself), and then all the games are between Rauru's founding of Hyrule and extends all the way into Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. In fact, in one of those isn't there a basically city-sized monument to all the incarnations of the Hero and his adventures? That implies either that Rauru later learns the truth of Hyrule's history and creates the monument to try to protect its history from being lost again, or, more likely, that the adventures happen _after_ Rauru's time. Especially the fact that there are both numerous surviving artifacts in BotW and TotK that come with brief blurbs about their lore that are from previous games. Such as Twilight Link's hat.

Anyone else notice Demise's scar on his forehead where Ganondorf keeps a large ornament?

I think it'd be really cool if Rauru and Sonia's Hyrule was the first civilization _before_ the Era of Hylia. Imagine it. Ganondorf's actions and threat causes the Golden Goddesses to send Hylia to protect the Triforce, Ganondorf goes on to become Demise (or at least called that, regardless of his actual name), and then all the games are between Rauru's founding of Hyrule and extends all the way into Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. In fact, in one of those isn't there a basically city-sized monument to all the incarnations of the Hero and his adventures? That implies either that Rauru later learns the truth of Hyrule's history and creates the monument to try to protect its history from being lost again, or, more likely, that the adventures happen _after_ Rauru's time. Especially the fact that there are both numerous surviving artifacts in BotW and TotK that come with brief blurbs about their lore that are from previous games. Such as Twilight Link's hat.

Very interesting approach, this game was way more ahead than undertale was and it scared me too