Wanted to make a correction: Corpsedorf only has 2 earrings on his right ear and not his left ear. That’s what I get for making a video in under 24 hours 😅
Must be pretty symbolic for who's in charge of the body. Demise has both sets at first, and corpsedorf has 2 on one. Changing up the earrings midway while link has to work back to ganondorf after the master sword is broken? Key factor.
@@RebirthStar highly recommend you take a look at ratotoskr’s latest Yggdrasil Podcast featuring limcube. I need to listen to it again. It will blow your mind!
The MOST important bit of this is that the master sword was destroyed, which makes it extremely possible that his "spirit" was released. I'm so excited for the possibilities
I'm gonna be honest here, if Demise is not in Tears of the Kingdom after seeing a broken Master Sword, I will automatically call the story a huge waste of potential. A broken Master Sword has to signify the return of Demise. There is no other time to do it.
@@Alazerith yeah I always thought that as well, it would be a hype moment. The reason I could see them not having Demise return would be to keep Ganondorf in the spotlight, and maybe Demise did get fully destroyed by the master sword over time.
I think we should take a closer look at Zelda 2 on NES for more clues and ideas. If Zelda 1 inspired BotW it stands to reason TotK will take some inspiration from Zelda 2. Ganon’s minions needing Links blood to revive and 2 Zeldas in the same era are two such ideas.
There are parallels with Zelda II and both SS & BotW in more than a gameplay sense, touching upon lore: - The ‘trophy’ / Goddess Statue (Japanese version) vs BotW’s Goddess statues scattered through Hyrule, - Link’s remains(translated to blood in English) resurrecting Ganon vs Girahim mentioning Link’s vessel being a suitable sacrifice for Demise’s return, - Girobokku paralleling the eyes of Malice in BotW, - The ‘wise men’ in each town from Zelda II vs Shiekah monks of BotW, And so forth..
I’ve put more and more thought into that idea recently. It would be a really neat idea to explore and if the timeline placement of BOTW is “at the end” of three parallel timelines, and with characteristics unique to each timeline in BOTW (unique things like rock salt/rito/koroks from Adult timeline, the history of the Child Timeline and possible artifacts like the mirror of twilight, and enemies unique to the Downfall timeline like Lynels and Hinoxes), it would make sense that those parallel timelines merged into one somehow. Traveling back in time before this timeline merge could have some intriguing consequences…
Very interesting. It's already been speculated that there's two Zeldas so two Ganondorfs isn't unplausible either. Man, ice wanted a Zelda game which goes absolutely wild with its story and we might get one here.
Yeah BOTW left me with so many questions. These new trailers give me details I’ve been piecing together for the past decade, and putting that together in a tangible story for everyone is fun for me 🤗
I’d love a ganondorf redemption arc. Like he’s been trying to fight off the possession this time to break the curse and in the end he helps link deal a final blow
@@mushroompizzalad3965even then that's assuming he isn't just trying to justify himself retroactively. Nobody talks about this but WW Ganondorf is definitely doing some historical revision here
ruclips.net/video/MiJoZd2vLHE/видео.html Here is the link for the video I mentioned! I forgot to share it and won’t be at my computer for the next day or two.
That would most definitely be an interesting twist…his latest depiction parallels with the daimyo of Feudal Japan, which were samurai who served the Emperor.
@@wizcatcheslightninghe even uses a katana looking weapon but my main reason for liking this is because ganondorf doesn’t necessarily hate link and Zelda only demise does
I like your idea. Though it’s much more likely that the old ganondorf in the earlier trailers is just that, and earlier rendition. It’s been a long time since that first trailer. They likely have just changed the design as they ironed out what exactly the plot was going to be. It’s also likely as some have said, that many scenes featuring mystery characters and perhaps even rehydrated ganondorf, are flashbacks. Time will tell I’m excited to see the truth
As far as I’m concerned, the trailer confirmed the return of Demise. Great video! Excited to continue seeing you get into the weeds of everything Zelda in the run up to Tears of the Kingdom.
Thanks Crash! Good to see you again! And I think Dman is back too (obviously, ha ha). Can’t wait to get my hands on this game. But first, more videos 🫡
If anything, thinking this Ganondilf has Demise inside him (somehow) explains why all the TotK sages couldn't deal with him, even if they all had secret stones as well! The secret stone amplifies Demise.
If I dont get 2 ganandorfs pointing at eachother like the spiderman meme, imma be really pissed...Great content as always wiz! great talk last night! lets game soon!
Thanks Brad! And same to you! It was nice catching up. I’m down to game a bit. As long as it doesn’t interfere with getting some of my content out there 😅
The seal Link creates at the end of Skyward Sword in the past, is the seal he fights to maintain throughout the game. Whether or not the Master Sword is contained within the sealing spike and simply summoned back by Impa after Demise is crushed or not… it’s somewhat unclear. But the seal only reacts to Link throughout the game (even haunts him at the start) and the sealing spike has the emblems of Din, Nayru, and Farore… of whose flames he used to create the sword. BUT… the reason I point this out is that it’s important to note that the Triforce is what actually eradicated Demise in the end. People seem to, for whatever reason, think the Master Sword sealing was the last we saw of Demise and if the sword breaks or something, he’s suddenly back. Present day, chronologically, Link made a wish to the Triforce to “completely eradicate” Demise. That was the last of Demise, timeline-wise… the rest happens in the past. Hence, because of the Triforce wish, his spirit has only been able to return born anew as Ganondorf. Having Demise return to the world would literally go against the lore of the Triforce itself- unless a wish was made for his revival. However, since he seems to be a being outside the realm of time, I could see it possible to have him still exist in a completely different dimension where he’s sorta pulling the strings (via influencing Ganon’s motives) from far beyond. Afterall, Ganon once wished to the Triforce to rule the world, and that only managed to turn the Sacred Realm into the Dark World. It’s possible Link’s Triforce wish only fully eradicated Demise from Hyrule’s world and not literally all of existence. But my only point of contention here is… he can’t just suddenly be back in Hyrule because that would be a direct contradiction to the Triforce.
I’ve gone through the same thought experiment you went through. Yes, Demise is destroyed in the present time of SS. That’s why Ghirahim has to take Zelda back in time, because Demise is not eradicated and he has just been sealed by Hylia (thus counteracting the Triforce wish). So he’s still alive in the past. Now in this past, Demise’s body gets destroyed but his mind gets sealed inside of the Master Sword and will slowly decay. What Nintendo doesn’t mention is that there are two timelines created: one where Link succeeds and one where he fails, just like the Downfall Timeline. We only see Link succeed, but there is technically a completely different timeline where he fails. And this would be an alternative timeline different from the one we know that splits in Ocarina of Time, this would be the alternate timeline you’re referring to!
Or ganondorf becomes demise, Zelda becomes hylia, link becomes that zonai. When Zelda looks up with surprise and says link in the trailer, I don’t think she’s remembering but realizing.
@@wizcatcheslightning There is no current timeline split in the story of Skyward Sword, if I get what you’re trying to say. Demise being revived in the past happened no matter what. Time did not change or split. The old lady Impa has the bracelet given to her by Zelda for the whole game.
@@WindMageMaster exactly, we’re following the timeline we’ve always followed that leads to OOT. But if Link goes back in time and fails, well then a different Hyrule/timeline exists where Evil triumphed over Good. It’s not canon (yet) because Nintendo has been tight lipped about it.
The hair on dead Ganondorf looks like the hair on the demise looking guy, so the possibility of 2 Ganondorf could be possible. You can see in the art, that this Ganondorf doesn't have tentacle-like hair, but the dead one does.
I think there are at least two timelines interconnected and I also think that the "hero" of the tapestry in BOTW that sealed the Calamity away was not an ancestor of Link but Ganondorf. Notably the "Zelda" in the tapestry has reddish skin which seems very similar to the skintone of the "Hylia" in the trailer.
@@wizcatcheslightning Dark World, Link to the Past Boss battle theme, hyrule field theme twilight princess, Saria's song (oot) Nocturn of Shadow (i think that is how it is spelled) Vs Ganondorf from Wind Waker. Tower of The Gods boss theme windwaker, Vs King Boblin on the Bridge i dont know the name of that track in twilight princess, boss battle theme from oracle of seasons and ages.vs Ganon Link to the Past boss fight I dont know the namss of some but I know when they play in the game.
SS is without a doubt one of the best Zelda games not only was it fun to play but it’s story is so important because it gives us the origin story of everything including why Ganondorf has always managed to come back.When the tears trailer in 2021 came out it finally made sense why they brought SS to the switch because of the sky islands by I always believed there were more reasons why they did that and these things that might be happening in tears may be why!
Yup! And Fujibayashi directed SS, BOTW, and now TOTK. He’s carefully crafted a trilogy of Zelda games, so to speak. SS HD was an intentional. Nintendo wants it fresh in our minds before playing TOTK.
Great video, man! I'm not sold on the return of Demise, honestly. When Ganondorf awakened, he was stating that the viewer should witness the birth of a new king. Demise doesn't want to conquer, he wants to destroy. I also don't think Ganondorf can exist unless Demise is completely gone - consciousness and all. We've never seen multiple Ganondorfs at the same time, I believe the same can be said for Demise and Ganondorf as well. It also seems that Nintendo may have retconned Corpsedorf's headdress from that original teaser. There was some sort of change (I believe it's now a gray tear). I'm not sure which of the newer trailers it was shown on, but I saw a post about it today on the r/tearsofthekingdom subReddit lol. Cool video and cool theory, nonetheless, man! I always enjoy talking Zelda theories. It seems like it's always much more fun when a new game is around the corner, too!
Thank you! And excellent comment! Thanks for taking the time to make it. I actually read all of Demise’s Japanese text today and he talks about ruling the world in his own demonic image. Regardless, it’s a lot of fun to speculate as we all bide our time in anticipation for the new game 🤗
I think Ganondorf can absolutely Ganondorf can absolutely exist without demise. He may start out as possessed with the evil of demise but I think eventually he will return to his regular Gerudo form.
Hey! I dont know if this comment matches as evidence for this video. But if you remember the Tears of the Kingdom E3 2021 or Tears of the Kingdom Trailer 2. Both at the end of the theme, you can hear a reversed thing....or whatever it is. If you play it backwards, it repeats twice: He come back, She come back, He come back, She come back. However, now, with the recent trailer, I believe that this means about the come back of Demon King Demise and Goddess Hylia. I'm not sure if it's 100% the case, but it occurred to me after this video :).
I believe that Ganondorf is still Ganondorf however I feel like this game is showing us that Demise is rapidly taking over and coming back as the full entity that is demise. I feel that if there's a another game picking up after tears of the kingdom in some way or another game entirely... I believe believe every game is just another game that brings us closer to the eventual demises return.
Right on! I haven’t finished TOTK yet, but I have seen all of the dragon tears. Did you notice how Ganondorf turns the Time secret stone into the Hatred secret stone? He “conquered time” 😏 Also the horns are a dead giveaway of his influence to me. SS Mural depiction of Demise had 3 horns. Demise has a scar where it looks like one horn is missing. And then TOTK secret stone infused Ganondorf has 2 horns. It’s uncanny 😯
@@sionnachrealta5534 I can accept the premise that the stones are neutral because the kanji forms for the person who possesses the secret stone. But I think you’re unaware of the fact that Ganondorf killed Sonia and then the secret stone morphs into the kanji for rancor, what his essence is. It brings out one’s strongest essence. Also, that’s a representation of “conquering time”. Who’s the conqueror of time? Who’s the source of demons? You know the answer. Ganondorf has never been able to generate demons. Until this game, after killing the sage of time. Important details to consider.
@@sionnachrealta5534 ha! “We are all born ignorant. But one must work hard to remain stupid.” -this isn’t to say that I think you’re stupid. But thinking you have all of the answers after one playthrough is absurd. I don’t have all of the answers either. I guess I’m just more agreeable than you are about this.
Thank you. And completely agreed! I mean he could just be different because the E3 2019 trailer seemed like it was fairly developmental, but how does the Calamity Ganon final boss have a beard but not rehydrated Ganon?
Great theory! Personally, I believe that the bearded ganondorf is just mummy ganon in the past, because of the fact that, in the shot where he’s powering up, hebra mountain has no hole. The hole in hebra mountain in the present is said to be caused by the great calamity. This would also explain his beard and earrings. But maybe I’m wrong! Lmk what u think about this.
I’m curious about your connecting his physical traits to the great calamity. How does that evidence lead to your conclusion? Happy to hear you out here. I’m just not making any connections.
@@wizcatcheslightning I mean him being in the past would explain his beard and earrings. He could have lost the earrings and the beard in the past, which might be explained in the game
Imagine if it was Ganon dehydrated Ganon and Demise I can just imagine being link revived for another pain staking fight just to reborn into another one I'll be working my ass all day and now I have to fight three
This came up in my recommended and for once, it's relevant. TotK trailer looked like it had both Ganon and Demise in it but I wasn't sure, so its interesting to think about how this could play into the new story.
Well first of all, welcome! Second of all, glad the video was relevant to what you’re looking for! Thirdly, happy to give you my insight as to what I think is happening.
@@wizcatcheslightning Right on. It's a good video. The potential of a Zeldaverse would be a hell of an idea. The thought crossed my mind when a scene showed Zelda talking to a knight and said "Link.." but of course, it was nothing more than an idea. I'll def be on the lookout for more videos from you.
😎 😆, I’m finally back home and can add my end screen. I think I’m gonna pin this comment because that’s the first time someone’s commented that. Glad you liked it 🔥
My belief they are lining up the connections between OOT and skyward sword, twilight princess (Sages, tears, temple of time) and possibly the sacred realm. Demises residual power was released in hyrule warriors practically at first. However non Canon as it may be, it proves a point Zelda will have her memories of her hylia form, she's also in the past due to recall after falling Link will have to gather the tears and powers to restore the master sword. Travelling between past and present. Ganondorf will most likely have the rest of his Demise abilities, residually transforming into Gademise (Ganon beast/Demise hybrid) and retain Demises memories Malice does break the master sword at first, that's why it's restoration is the important factor. Fi could also make a return. Tears of the kingdom is the end of the old cycle and the beginning of the new one.
@@wizcatcheslightning already edited. And the form i could see in the trailer is pretty much Beast/Pig Ganon & Demise. The master sword can destroy malice but no one theorised when it's overwhelmed with malice it can break. And whatever was in the master sword of Demise weakened Fi. I suppose the seal began to weaken when the master sword became rusted. In this instance it's demisedorf. Ganondorf is the hatred incarnate. Demise is the mind/soul with the remains of his body.
@@RebirthStar thanks for that! And yes to everything you’re saying here! With Fujibayashi being at the helm for Skyward Sword, BOTW, and TOTK, it’s hard to deny all of the clues that are being shown to Zelda players new and old. And I take great joy in trying to reveal all of the clues that I’m able to find to all of you 🤗
Ok, hear me out. So I 100% subscribe to the essence of demise being released upon the master sword being broken, it makes too much sense and almost every Zelda theorist ignores it. So what I want to add/point out is the artwork released of Ganondorf with the tear being “inactive” and “active” on his forehead. What if the tears hold the essence of the sages or divine beings, and with Demise’s being trapped in the master sword to decay, it never went into any such tear until the master sword was broken. None of the other tears seem to “power down” when not in use, and though Ganondorf is in a sweet pose in the art of the tear being active, I highly doubt he’s in combat or using the power. Also with Zelda’s tear having the recall symbol on it; if Zelda uses light magic, and light is time, would the essence/spirit of light being in the tear grant these powers? What about when Demise’s essence goes into the previously vacant tear Ganondorf has? Love the theories man, especially the most recent dragon/god clan one! Good shit!
Are we doing the multiverse premise? What if in the final battle you team up with all the other link incarnations? Can you imagine fighting alongside the Ocarina of Time Link or the Windwaker Link or the OG Link?
That would be siiiick. The one thing I really need to think about is why Ganondorf’s ears aren’t pointy like they are for the Ganondorf of WW or the Ganondorf of TP.
The chance of demise is very slim lore wisr he should've been long gone from. The master sword I'm afraid if he doesn't appear and it's just Ganondorf channeling malice into himself giving a slight appearance of demise do to Malice being demises hatred people are gonna flip and be angry. It's the same with everyone saying that mysterious women is zelda turned back into hylia there's a 50% chance it's not and is a zonai princess or someone who was decended from another God like figure or a zelda from a different universe.
@Wiz I think you are close and wish we had a means of talking away from comments because I have tons of information that I think will play a huge role on this, but I think you are on the right track here. Except that I don’t think it is purely just Demise’s conscious, as you stated he is a master of time, and a demon, an immortal being. While it was hinted that the sword needed to be watched over, his decay was only a thought and was never a sure thing, which is why it needed to be watched over so closely. Another thing a lot of people forget is Demise himself said in Skyward Sword that he will return eventually. This leaves me to further believe his mastery over time and I think we see the revival of Ganon because the way he was sealed was not in essence killing him, cheating the birth and rebirth cycle of this curse. I believe we will see both characters return, and I think it’s the return of demise that has broken barriers between the sky realm and hyrule that has brought about these mysterious characters in ToTK and the stronger Demise grows or the closer he gets to possessing and or taking form, I believe a lot of that has to do with why we start seeing pieces of the sky collapse. It’s also part of the reason I believe these tears will be necessary to re create the sages as they fight alongside link is resetting time back on its correct course (the whole purpose of the reverse ability) and in a sense resetting the cycle of the curse, or the breaking of old and the birth of a new. Who knows that. Lots we could talk and go over that kind of hint towards these theories that are just much too long for me to discuss here but the info does originate from several text points in breath of the wild as well as relevant story moments and key locations in other games. Add a contact email in your about and maybe we can discuss it further.
"You witness a King's revival." i wonder if he's talking about the Gerudo King/King of Thieves or The Demon King, could depend on whos consciousness is in control hmm..
Ooh, I think you nailed it. I'm convinced Gannon is some kind of anti-hero good guy in this one who is pissed at Demise. The idea that alternate timelines maybe result in some kind of split is awesome.
I feel like it's the essence of demise, his soul, if you will, going into Ganon, but as Ganon is Ganon, his form and power takes over and we end up with this ultimate being of power.
Very nice job wiz. I enjoyed your take on the possible identity of these characters and your video did show me something new. I had never seen those red eyes before. Plus imagine this, ganondorf isn't screaming with power, he is screaming of pain. "You witness a king's revival" not "You witness my revival" Thank for the hype and nice job.
I’m not sure I really see the horn you are trying to point out there. Clearly there is something on his head, but it could just be some sort of protruding head adornment like the tear shown on his forehead in a different scene. That one specific point seems like a reach to me. I think most other points are sound, but I don’t think they point to the actual physical Demise coming back necessarily. Could be some sort of thing like Ganondorf absorbing some of a weakened demise’s power from the broken master sword (since demise very well could be weakened significantly in there just as well as he might not be after thousands of years).
Look at the final trailer again, specifically at the end when the title flashes and it shows a mural. And look at what most people think is Ganondorf in the top right corner of the mural. There’s a horn protruding from his head. Now, you could be right, that might not be a horn of Demise. Now, look at a picture of Farosh and you’ll have what may be our only other possible conclusion: Dragondorf.
Yup 😎 The same reason Aonuma told people that he hoped they played Twilight Princess HD before the release of BOTW. There’s a lot of intent in the re-releases. Combine this with the fact that Fujibayashi’s first directed game was Skyward Sword and then went on to direct both BOTW and TOTK and we’ve got a lot of details to unravel that I can’t fit into this reply text 😎👉👉
The last part of the video could explain why we see Link with long flowing hair and his green garments and then his normal tied up hair from BOTW. Two Links maybe?
@@WhiteWolf2874 glad you’re here! I’ve been searching for people like yourself for quite some time. Definitely check out my friend @GameSmiths for some other interesting tidbits until I can produce more content. @Moxie Watts is another friend worth checking out for lore info and speculation
And possibly…a lot of the plot/lore mentioned from the game’s manual! No joke, it’s actually eerie what I’ve read. Potentially more on that in another vid
@@wizcatcheslightning Fair enough, I'm just saying back in 1986 he might as well be because they probably didn't plan the timeline out that far ahead or in the past. Demised didn't even exist until Skyward Sword development started. So basically the "official" explanation of where the demons come from was probably changed a lot over the years at Nintendo at first.
That’s a fair point. The Zelda series was one of the earliest progenitors of retcons in video games, and the fanbase inspired them to keep doing it with each iteration. It’s just the nature of the games’ lore in my opinion. Hence all the theory videos 😆
I’m in love with this theory, but my only gripe is… how would demise be in dehydrated Ganondorf if at the point that he is awakened the master sword hasn’t yet been destroyed?
Honestly seeing Ganondorf just be another vessel for Demise would feel extremely lame and forced, purely for how much better of a villain ‘Dorf is versus Demise. This is no knock on the vid or evidence btw, just a personal take.
Considered non canon (not that Nintendo won’t retcon it given the music choice of the final TOTK trailer) but thank you for mentioning that! I might have to look into that further.
I see where you’re coming from. Of course, this could all be flat out wrong, but it’s fun to think about. And I’ve always been fascinated by the split timelines ever since Wind Waker
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Wanted to make a correction: Corpsedorf only has 2 earrings on his right ear and not his left ear. That’s what I get for making a video in under 24 hours 😅
Must be pretty symbolic for who's in charge of the body. Demise has both sets at first, and corpsedorf has 2 on one. Changing up the earrings midway while link has to work back to ganondorf after the master sword is broken? Key factor.
@@RebirthStar highly recommend you take a look at ratotoskr’s latest Yggdrasil Podcast featuring limcube. I need to listen to it again. It will blow your mind!
Catch that 🌩 Wiz.
ganondilf 💀 😂
I laughed harder than I should have at this 😂
With rizz 💀💀💀
Lmao Ganondwfy - there’s no way he’d be a bottom after being restricted for so long
The MOST important bit of this is that the master sword was destroyed, which makes it extremely possible that his "spirit" was released. I'm so excited for the possibilities
Me too! So much to be discovered
That thing is 100 percent Demise until proven otherwise
I'm gonna be honest here, if Demise is not in Tears of the Kingdom after seeing a broken Master Sword, I will automatically call the story a huge waste of potential. A broken Master Sword has to signify the return of Demise. There is no other time to do it.
@@Alazerith pretty much 😎
@@Alazerith yeah I always thought that as well, it would be a hype moment. The reason I could see them not having Demise return would be to keep Ganondorf in the spotlight, and maybe Demise did get fully destroyed by the master sword over time.
I think we should take a closer look at Zelda 2 on NES for more clues and ideas. If Zelda 1 inspired BotW it stands to reason TotK will take some inspiration from Zelda 2. Ganon’s minions needing Links blood to revive and 2 Zeldas in the same era are two such ideas.
The points you mentioned were my takeaways from that game. I think a lot of parallels get pulled from Skyward Sword.
There are parallels with Zelda II and both SS & BotW in more than a gameplay sense, touching upon lore:
- The ‘trophy’ / Goddess Statue (Japanese version) vs BotW’s Goddess statues scattered through Hyrule,
- Link’s remains(translated to blood in English) resurrecting Ganon vs Girahim mentioning Link’s vessel being a suitable sacrifice for Demise’s return,
- Girobokku paralleling the eyes of Malice in BotW,
- The ‘wise men’ in each town from Zelda II vs Shiekah monks of BotW,
And so forth..
I’m actually reading the Japanese script for Zelda 2 at the moment and I think you’re right AHB!
Aus, let’s chat more about this when you have time! Also, good to see ya
@@wizcatcheslightning Can't wait to see what you come up with in your next video!
Considering the whole timeline split after OoT I've always wondered if it'd be possible for something like a Zeldaverse to happen
I’ve put more and more thought into that idea recently. It would be a really neat idea to explore and if the timeline placement of BOTW is “at the end” of three parallel timelines, and with characteristics unique to each timeline in BOTW (unique things like rock salt/rito/koroks from Adult timeline, the history of the Child Timeline and possible artifacts like the mirror of twilight, and enemies unique to the Downfall timeline like Lynels and Hinoxes), it would make sense that those parallel timelines merged into one somehow. Traveling back in time before this timeline merge could have some intriguing consequences…
it's called hyrules warriors :D
@@arthapz but we need a zeldaverse akin to like spoonerman verse 👀
Very interesting. It's already been speculated that there's two Zeldas so two Ganondorfs isn't unplausible either. Man, ice wanted a Zelda game which goes absolutely wild with its story and we might get one here.
Yeah BOTW left me with so many questions. These new trailers give me details I’ve been piecing together for the past decade, and putting that together in a tangible story for everyone is fun for me 🤗
I’d love a ganondorf redemption arc. Like he’s been trying to fight off the possession this time to break the curse and in the end he helps link deal a final blow
I mean wind waker almost touched on that but not until the very very end
@@mushroompizzalad3965even then that's assuming he isn't just trying to justify himself retroactively. Nobody talks about this but WW Ganondorf is definitely doing some historical revision here
ruclips.net/video/MiJoZd2vLHE/видео.html
Here is the link for the video I mentioned! I forgot to share it and won’t be at my computer for the next day or two.
I’m really hoping ganondorf ends up becoming a hero I feel like May become a good guy as he is in possession of a tear in the trailer
That would most definitely be an interesting twist…his latest depiction parallels with the daimyo of Feudal Japan, which were samurai who served the Emperor.
@@wizcatcheslightninghe even uses a katana looking weapon but my main reason for liking this is because ganondorf doesn’t necessarily hate link and Zelda only demise does
@@the_demon_hunt5329 true. Gman just wants that POWER 🔥
I like your idea. Though it’s much more likely that the old ganondorf in the earlier trailers is just that, and earlier rendition. It’s been a long time since that first trailer. They likely have just changed the design as they ironed out what exactly the plot was going to be.
It’s also likely as some have said, that many scenes featuring mystery characters and perhaps even rehydrated ganondorf, are flashbacks.
Time will tell I’m excited to see the truth
Me too Cory! Thanks for commenting.
As far as I’m concerned, the trailer confirmed the return of Demise.
Great video! Excited to continue seeing you get into the weeds of everything Zelda in the run up to Tears of the Kingdom.
Thanks Crash! Good to see you again! And I think Dman is back too (obviously, ha ha). Can’t wait to get my hands on this game. But first, more videos 🫡
hot take
Wow. Mind blown. Even if this doesn’t end up happening the entire theory is amazing !
Thanks Felipe!
The malice tentacle probably deliberately attacked Link and the sword after sensing Demise's conscious within.
I like this idea! That makes sense to me.
Demise is dead and is reborn as Ganondorf just like Link and Zelda. My theory.
underrated channel. that's all i have to say
Thanks RedTofuSea! That means a lot, sincerely
If anything, thinking this Ganondilf has Demise inside him (somehow) explains why all the TotK sages couldn't deal with him, even if they all had secret stones as well!
The secret stone amplifies Demise.
On the dot with that one!
If I dont get 2 ganandorfs pointing at eachother like the spiderman meme, imma be really pissed...Great content as always wiz! great talk last night! lets game soon!
Thanks Brad! And same to you! It was nice catching up. I’m down to game a bit. As long as it doesn’t interfere with getting some of my content out there 😅
@@wizcatcheslightning who knows maybe we can get some content out of the playing hahaha!
The seal Link creates at the end of Skyward Sword in the past, is the seal he fights to maintain throughout the game. Whether or not the Master Sword is contained within the sealing spike and simply summoned back by Impa after Demise is crushed or not… it’s somewhat unclear. But the seal only reacts to Link throughout the game (even haunts him at the start) and the sealing spike has the emblems of Din, Nayru, and Farore… of whose flames he used to create the sword. BUT… the reason I point this out is that it’s important to note that the Triforce is what actually eradicated Demise in the end. People seem to, for whatever reason, think the Master Sword sealing was the last we saw of Demise and if the sword breaks or something, he’s suddenly back. Present day, chronologically, Link made a wish to the Triforce to “completely eradicate” Demise. That was the last of Demise, timeline-wise… the rest happens in the past. Hence, because of the Triforce wish, his spirit has only been able to return born anew as Ganondorf. Having Demise return to the world would literally go against the lore of the Triforce itself- unless a wish was made for his revival.
However, since he seems to be a being outside the realm of time, I could see it possible to have him still exist in a completely different dimension where he’s sorta pulling the strings (via influencing Ganon’s motives) from far beyond. Afterall, Ganon once wished to the Triforce to rule the world, and that only managed to turn the Sacred Realm into the Dark World. It’s possible Link’s Triforce wish only fully eradicated Demise from Hyrule’s world and not literally all of existence. But my only point of contention here is… he can’t just suddenly be back in Hyrule because that would be a direct contradiction to the Triforce.
I’ve gone through the same thought experiment you went through. Yes, Demise is destroyed in the present time of SS. That’s why Ghirahim has to take Zelda back in time, because Demise is not eradicated and he has just been sealed by Hylia (thus counteracting the Triforce wish). So he’s still alive in the past. Now in this past, Demise’s body gets destroyed but his mind gets sealed inside of the Master Sword and will slowly decay. What Nintendo doesn’t mention is that there are two timelines created: one where Link succeeds and one where he fails, just like the Downfall Timeline. We only see Link succeed, but there is technically a completely different timeline where he fails. And this would be an alternative timeline different from the one we know that splits in Ocarina of Time, this would be the alternate timeline you’re referring to!
Or ganondorf becomes demise, Zelda becomes hylia, link becomes that zonai. When Zelda looks up with surprise and says link in the trailer, I don’t think she’s remembering but realizing.
@@wizcatcheslightning There is no current timeline split in the story of Skyward Sword, if I get what you’re trying to say. Demise being revived in the past happened no matter what. Time did not change or split. The old lady Impa has the bracelet given to her by Zelda for the whole game.
@@WindMageMaster exactly, we’re following the timeline we’ve always followed that leads to OOT. But if Link goes back in time and fails, well then a different Hyrule/timeline exists where Evil triumphed over Good. It’s not canon (yet) because Nintendo has been tight lipped about it.
@@wizcatcheslightning Sure that’s an alternate possibility, but I don’t think that’s what Nintendo are doing
The hair on dead Ganondorf looks like the hair on the demise looking guy, so the possibility of 2 Ganondorf could be possible. You can see in the art, that this Ganondorf doesn't have tentacle-like hair, but the dead one does.
I think there are at least two timelines interconnected and I also think that the "hero" of the tapestry in BOTW that sealed the Calamity away was not an ancestor of Link but Ganondorf. Notably the "Zelda" in the tapestry has reddish skin which seems very similar to the skintone of the "Hylia" in the trailer.
Just made a timeline video you might be interested in. Sorry for the late reply!
DUDE I love your music choices for your narrations
KEEP MAKING THESE WITH BANGER TRACKS That windwaker boss theme is a favorite of mine
Thanks! It’s a real gem. I could use some Zelda music suggestions if you got em
@@wizcatcheslightning Dark World, Link to the Past Boss battle theme, hyrule field theme twilight princess, Saria's song (oot) Nocturn of Shadow (i think that is how it is spelled) Vs Ganondorf from Wind Waker. Tower of The Gods boss theme windwaker, Vs King Boblin on the Bridge i dont know the name of that track in twilight princess, boss battle theme from oracle of seasons and ages.vs Ganon Link to the Past boss fight
I dont know the namss of some but I know when they play in the game.
@@wizcatcheslightning heck throw in the skyrim dragon battle music and maybe the godzilla theme for fun if you ever talk about giant bosses
SS is without a doubt one of the best Zelda games not only was it fun to play but it’s story is so important because it gives us the origin story of everything including why Ganondorf has always managed to come back.When the tears trailer in 2021 came out it finally made sense why they brought SS to the switch because of the sky islands by I always believed there were more reasons why they did that and these things that might be happening in tears may be why!
Yup! And Fujibayashi directed SS, BOTW, and now TOTK. He’s carefully crafted a trilogy of Zelda games, so to speak. SS HD was an intentional. Nintendo wants it fresh in our minds before playing TOTK.
Another absolute banger!! Defo gonna be multiple dimensions, timeframes, universes, or something along those lines in this game
If Zeldaverse comes true in this game, I’ll be beyond excited. There’s so many exciting ways to execute that concept!
This video was so well put together, I enjoyed every second of it.
I told you M5! 😆
Also, thank you. I wrote and produced it in under 24 hours
Great video, man!
I'm not sold on the return of Demise, honestly. When Ganondorf awakened, he was stating that the viewer should witness the birth of a new king. Demise doesn't want to conquer, he wants to destroy. I also don't think Ganondorf can exist unless Demise is completely gone - consciousness and all. We've never seen multiple Ganondorfs at the same time, I believe the same can be said for Demise and Ganondorf as well. It also seems that Nintendo may have retconned Corpsedorf's headdress from that original teaser. There was some sort of change (I believe it's now a gray tear). I'm not sure which of the newer trailers it was shown on, but I saw a post about it today on the r/tearsofthekingdom subReddit lol.
Cool video and cool theory, nonetheless, man! I always enjoy talking Zelda theories. It seems like it's always much more fun when a new game is around the corner, too!
Thank you! And excellent comment! Thanks for taking the time to make it.
I actually read all of Demise’s Japanese text today and he talks about ruling the world in his own demonic image. Regardless, it’s a lot of fun to speculate as we all bide our time in anticipation for the new game 🤗
I think Ganondorf can absolutely Ganondorf can absolutely exist without demise. He may start out as possessed with the evil of demise but I think eventually he will return to his regular Gerudo form.
I’m so pumped for this game 😎
since demise was sealed inside the master sword it only makes sense that he emerges once the malice destroys the blade of evils bane
Assuming he’s not fully decayed, absolutely!
Hey!
I dont know if this comment matches as evidence for this video.
But if you remember the Tears of the Kingdom E3 2021 or Tears of the Kingdom Trailer 2. Both at the end of the theme, you can hear a reversed thing....or whatever it is.
If you play it backwards, it repeats twice: He come back, She come back, He come back, She come back.
However, now, with the recent trailer, I believe that this means about the come back of Demon King Demise and Goddess Hylia.
I'm not sure if it's 100% the case, but it occurred to me after this video :).
Isn’t there also two links? The one we recognize from BoTW and then the one with long hair and arm cannon?
It does appear to be that way 😎
I believe that Ganondorf is still Ganondorf however I feel like this game is showing us that Demise is rapidly taking over and coming back as the full entity that is demise. I feel that if there's a another game picking up after tears of the kingdom in some way or another game entirely... I believe believe every game is just another game that brings us closer to the eventual demises return.
Right on! I haven’t finished TOTK yet, but I have seen all of the dragon tears. Did you notice how Ganondorf turns the Time secret stone into the Hatred secret stone? He “conquered time” 😏
Also the horns are a dead giveaway of his influence to me. SS Mural depiction of Demise had 3 horns. Demise has a scar where it looks like one horn is missing. And then TOTK secret stone infused Ganondorf has 2 horns. It’s uncanny 😯
@@sionnachrealta5534 I can accept the premise that the stones are neutral because the kanji forms for the person who possesses the secret stone. But I think you’re unaware of the fact that Ganondorf killed Sonia and then the secret stone morphs into the kanji for rancor, what his essence is. It brings out one’s strongest essence. Also, that’s a representation of “conquering time”. Who’s the conqueror of time? Who’s the source of demons? You know the answer. Ganondorf has never been able to generate demons. Until this game, after killing the sage of time. Important details to consider.
@@sionnachrealta5534 I’m not saying that’s Demise. That’s clearly Ganondorf. I’m saying that’s Demise’s essence. Hence “Demisedorf” or the demon king, Ganondorf
@@sionnachrealta5534 oh wow. You may want to replay the game 😬
@@sionnachrealta5534 ha! “We are all born ignorant. But one must work hard to remain stupid.” -this isn’t to say that I think you’re stupid. But thinking you have all of the answers after one playthrough is absurd. I don’t have all of the answers either. I guess I’m just more agreeable than you are about this.
Pretty nice video. Rehydrated Ganondorf looks too diferent from corpsedorf imo
Thank you. And completely agreed! I mean he could just be different because the E3 2019 trailer seemed like it was fairly developmental, but how does the Calamity Ganon final boss have a beard but not rehydrated Ganon?
@@wizcatcheslightning yea, not only that... unless he went shopping for some clothes and paid a visit to the barber shop... he's looking too clean
@@indigoiozzi great observation 😎
Great theory! Personally, I believe that the bearded ganondorf is just mummy ganon in the past, because of the fact that, in the shot where he’s powering up, hebra mountain has no hole. The hole in hebra mountain in the present is said to be caused by the great calamity. This would also explain his beard and earrings. But maybe I’m wrong! Lmk what u think about this.
I’m curious about your connecting his physical traits to the great calamity. How does that evidence lead to your conclusion? Happy to hear you out here. I’m just not making any connections.
@@wizcatcheslightning I mean him being in the past would explain his beard and earrings. He could have lost the earrings and the beard in the past, which might be explained in the game
I should also add that this theory mostly comes from this short by ratatoskr: ruclips.net/user/shortsjoS91QDF18U?feature=share
@@shane658 I’m digging what your planting now 🪴😎
What if its a fusion of ganon and demise i call it ganonmise.😅
I’ll take it 😎
I’ve heard and generated so many nicknames for Ganny as of late. Keep ‘em coming haha
Imagine if it was Ganon dehydrated Ganon and Demise I can just imagine being link revived for another pain staking fight just to reborn into another one I'll be working my ass all day and now I have to fight three
🤣 After having played just about every soulsborne game, I would welcome that
@@wizcatcheslightning big fat rip to players who aren't meant to fight
This came up in my recommended and for once, it's relevant. TotK trailer looked like it had both Ganon and Demise in it but I wasn't sure, so its interesting to think about how this could play into the new story.
Well first of all, welcome! Second of all, glad the video was relevant to what you’re looking for! Thirdly, happy to give you my insight as to what I think is happening.
@@wizcatcheslightning Right on. It's a good video. The potential of a Zeldaverse would be a hell of an idea. The thought crossed my mind when a scene showed Zelda talking to a knight and said "Link.." but of course, it was nothing more than an idea. I'll def be on the lookout for more videos from you.
@@craeshendo much appreciated. Hopefully I can deliver more valuable content for you in the future 😎
If that thing at 1:18 in the newest trailer was Demise my next question is will Demise have a voice actor and who will be voice acting Demise
That outro tho!! 👂🔥
😎 😆, I’m finally back home and can add my end screen. I think I’m gonna pin this comment because that’s the first time someone’s commented that. Glad you liked it 🔥
My belief they are lining up the connections between OOT and skyward sword, twilight princess (Sages, tears, temple of time) and possibly the sacred realm.
Demises residual power was released in hyrule warriors practically at first. However non Canon as it may be, it proves a point
Zelda will have her memories of her hylia form, she's also in the past due to recall after falling
Link will have to gather the tears and powers to restore the master sword. Travelling between past and present.
Ganondorf will most likely have the rest of his Demise abilities, residually transforming into Gademise (Ganon beast/Demise hybrid) and retain Demises memories
Malice does break the master sword at first, that's why it's restoration is the important factor. Fi could also make a return.
Tears of the kingdom is the end of the old cycle and the beginning of the new one.
Excellent comment! Thank you for taking the time to write it.
@@wizcatcheslightning already edited. And the form i could see in the trailer is pretty much Beast/Pig Ganon & Demise. The master sword can destroy malice but no one theorised when it's overwhelmed with malice it can break. And whatever was in the master sword of Demise weakened Fi. I suppose the seal began to weaken when the master sword became rusted. In this instance it's demisedorf. Ganondorf is the hatred incarnate. Demise is the mind/soul with the remains of his body.
@@RebirthStar thanks for that! And yes to everything you’re saying here! With Fujibayashi being at the helm for Skyward Sword, BOTW, and TOTK, it’s hard to deny all of the clues that are being shown to Zelda players new and old. And I take great joy in trying to reveal all of the clues that I’m able to find to all of you 🤗
Interesting how people never bring in age of calamity when comparing both and totk
It’s considered non canon. But there allegedly was AoC music in the final trailer as several others have pointed out.
Ok, hear me out. So I 100% subscribe to the essence of demise being released upon the master sword being broken, it makes too much sense and almost every Zelda theorist ignores it. So what I want to add/point out is the artwork released of Ganondorf with the tear being “inactive” and “active” on his forehead. What if the tears hold the essence of the sages or divine beings, and with Demise’s being trapped in the master sword to decay, it never went into any such tear until the master sword was broken. None of the other tears seem to “power down” when not in use, and though Ganondorf is in a sweet pose in the art of the tear being active, I highly doubt he’s in combat or using the power. Also with Zelda’s tear having the recall symbol on it; if Zelda uses light magic, and light is time, would the essence/spirit of light being in the tear grant these powers? What about when Demise’s essence goes into the previously vacant tear Ganondorf has?
Love the theories man, especially the most recent dragon/god clan one! Good shit!
Love this idea! And thanks for watching the videos. I put a lot of passion into these so that means more than you know 🥲
I do not think it is demise, I think it's a super form for Ganondorf using all his malice
It very well could be, but for posterity I have to stick to my guns on this one 😆
@@wizcatcheslightning Fair enough
Daddydorf? Ganondaddy?
uWu 👉👈
Im not saying that this is necessarily gonna happen but I would love to see a hylia vs demise fight.
Yeah that would be cool, thanks for the comment!
Are we doing the multiverse premise? What if in the final battle you team up with all the other link incarnations? Can you imagine fighting alongside the Ocarina of Time Link or the Windwaker Link or the OG Link?
That would be siiiick. The one thing I really need to think about is why Ganondorf’s ears aren’t pointy like they are for the Ganondorf of WW or the Ganondorf of TP.
This was a great video, gonnondorf's tear Is black btw
It sure is. Had I made the vid a day later, I would’ve seen the tweet telling me that it was black 😅
The chance of demise is very slim lore wisr he should've been long gone from. The master sword I'm afraid if he doesn't appear and it's just Ganondorf channeling malice into himself giving a slight appearance of demise do to Malice being demises hatred people are gonna flip and be angry. It's the same with everyone saying that mysterious women is zelda turned back into hylia there's a 50% chance it's not and is a zonai princess or someone who was decended from another God like figure or a zelda from a different universe.
I’m thinking that’s a Zonai princess and not Hylia, for the record
@Wiz I think you are close and wish we had a means of talking away from comments because I have tons of information that I think will play a huge role on this, but I think you are on the right track here. Except that I don’t think it is purely just Demise’s conscious, as you stated he is a master of time, and a demon, an immortal being. While it was hinted that the sword needed to be watched over, his decay was only a thought and was never a sure thing, which is why it needed to be watched over so closely. Another thing a lot of people forget is Demise himself said in Skyward Sword that he will return eventually. This leaves me to further believe his mastery over time and I think we see the revival of Ganon because the way he was sealed was not in essence killing him, cheating the birth and rebirth cycle of this curse. I believe we will see both characters return, and I think it’s the return of demise that has broken barriers between the sky realm and hyrule that has brought about these mysterious characters in ToTK and the stronger Demise grows or the closer he gets to possessing and or taking form, I believe a lot of that has to do with why we start seeing pieces of the sky collapse. It’s also part of the reason I believe these tears will be necessary to re create the sages as they fight alongside link is resetting time back on its correct course (the whole purpose of the reverse ability) and in a sense resetting the cycle of the curse, or the breaking of old and the birth of a new. Who knows that. Lots we could talk and go over that kind of hint towards these theories that are just much too long for me to discuss here but the info does originate from several text points in breath of the wild as well as relevant story moments and key locations in other games. Add a contact email in your about and maybe we can discuss it further.
You can find me on Twitter @WizCLightning or Reddit u/WizCatchesLightning …happy to discuss further 😎
"You witness a King's revival." i wonder if he's talking about the Gerudo King/King of Thieves or The Demon King, could depend on whos consciousness is in control hmm..
Exactly 😎
Ooh, I think you nailed it. I'm convinced Gannon is some kind of anti-hero good guy in this one who is pissed at Demise. The idea that alternate timelines maybe result in some kind of split is awesome.
Thank you 😎
I feel like it's the essence of demise, his soul, if you will, going into Ganon, but as Ganon is Ganon, his form and power takes over and we end up with this ultimate being of power.
I’ll take it 😎
Very nice job wiz. I enjoyed your take on the possible identity of these characters and your video did show me something new. I had never seen those red eyes before. Plus imagine this, ganondorf isn't screaming with power, he is screaming of pain. "You witness a king's revival" not "You witness my revival" Thank for the hype and nice job.
Thanks Dan! I appreciate the support! What did you mean by the screaming of pain? I just want to make sure I’m following correctly.
@@wizcatcheslightning When ganondorf's face is first revealed, he screams and it could be a scream of power or it could be a scream of pain.
@@dantheman15 got it. Thanks for clarifying 🤗
Was he the guy that whipped out the zonai
I’m not following: what’s the context of your question?
This makes a lot of sense and even more sense if that the mystery women is actually just hylea however you spell her name the goddess
I don’t necessarily think that’s Hylia but I’ve got a video in the works that will hopefully address some of this so keep an eye out!
I’m not sure I really see the horn you are trying to point out there. Clearly there is something on his head, but it could just be some sort of protruding head adornment like the tear shown on his forehead in a different scene. That one specific point seems like a reach to me.
I think most other points are sound, but I don’t think they point to the actual physical Demise coming back necessarily. Could be some sort of thing like Ganondorf absorbing some of a weakened demise’s power from the broken master sword (since demise very well could be weakened significantly in there just as well as he might not be after thousands of years).
Look at the final trailer again, specifically at the end when the title flashes and it shows a mural. And look at what most people think is Ganondorf in the top right corner of the mural. There’s a horn protruding from his head. Now, you could be right, that might not be a horn of Demise. Now, look at a picture of Farosh and you’ll have what may be our only other possible conclusion: Dragondorf.
@@wizcatcheslightning ah I got ya
now i get why they ported skyward sword on the switch
Yup 😎
The same reason Aonuma told people that he hoped they played Twilight Princess HD before the release of BOTW. There’s a lot of intent in the re-releases. Combine this with the fact that Fujibayashi’s first directed game was Skyward Sword and then went on to direct both BOTW and TOTK and we’ve got a lot of details to unravel that I can’t fit into this reply text 😎👉👉
The last part of the video could explain why we see Link with long flowing hair and his green garments and then his normal tied up hair from BOTW. Two Links maybe?
Exactly! There have to be a Link and Zelda in the past just as there are a Link and Zelda in the present.
@@wizcatcheslightning Maybe this is where time travel could be possibly utilized to unite the Link’s and Zelda’s from the past. Just speculation.
@@WhiteWolf2874 hey, speculation is appreciated on this channel! I like where your head’s at 😎
@@wizcatcheslightning Glad I found this channel!
@@WhiteWolf2874 glad you’re here! I’ve been searching for people like yourself for quite some time. Definitely check out my friend @GameSmiths for some other interesting tidbits until I can produce more content. @Moxie Watts is another friend worth checking out for lore info and speculation
My first thought when watching the trailer was demise
Mine too. It was a punch to the gut. I’ve been dreaming about this 😂
finally the game over screen from zelda 2 adventure of link is relevant again 😭🙏
And possibly…a lot of the plot/lore mentioned from the game’s manual! No joke, it’s actually eerie what I’ve read. Potentially more on that in another vid
I'm calling it now that this is the end of the timeline and also the beginning. A cycle. Hence the logo.
The ouroboros do be meaning things like that 👀😅
What about Demise's head wound glowing white? Was that a horn then?
Many people think this, but he also got that wound from the Hylia seal placed on him. The wound matches his Imprisoned form
Great video!
Thanks!
oh im with you buddy
Let’s go Mox 😎
I really wish all this was true since what we got was soooo much lesser
@@MrOverlordSir thank you. Couldn’t agree more. The setup was an underhanded pitch
Unfortunately this is not demise
However they're kinda merged he is the ganondorf the demon King
Did someone say Demisedorf? 😏
@@wizcatcheslightning ganondilf 😏
@@esogame9113 🤣 well played
I mean, it also seems there's two links. So, neat!
Yeah they do keep showing him wearing two specific outfits 🤔
Ganondorf is human, but pig Ganon isn't.
Yes, but Ganon isn’t the source of demons.
@@wizcatcheslightning What was the official source back in 1986?
@@creativevisiongaming just paged through the game manual. He’s described as the ruler of the demons but not the source/progenitor of demons
@@wizcatcheslightning Fair enough, I'm just saying back in 1986 he might as well be because they probably didn't plan the timeline out that far ahead or in the past. Demised didn't even exist until Skyward Sword development started. So basically the "official" explanation of where the demons come from was probably changed a lot over the years at Nintendo at first.
That’s a fair point. The Zelda series was one of the earliest progenitors of retcons in video games, and the fanbase inspired them to keep doing it with each iteration. It’s just the nature of the games’ lore in my opinion. Hence all the theory videos 😆
Maybe they went through the trouble of remaking skyward sword instead of easing porting windwaker and twilight Princess because it is demise.
From a developmental standpoint, the release of Skyward Sword HD was definitely intentional!
It is not a Zelda verse it is time travel
Who says both can’t be true? 😎
I’m in love with this theory, but my only gripe is… how would demise be in dehydrated Ganondorf if at the point that he is awakened the master sword hasn’t yet been destroyed?
I don’t know if you’ve seen my “making a case for the return of Demise” video yet, but that might elaborate more for you.
These vids hit harder than my dad ❤
I know you’re kidding but if you aren’t I’m obligated to advise that you seek help 😆
Love the name corpsedorf 😂
Thanks Jen 😂
I said this on Reddit when we first heard ganons voice
Or demises
I ment to put demises btw
@@some-random-youtuber no worries. Thanks for the comments!
As much as i lile this ti be true it has already been debunked
Tell me more 👀
If you look closely at his right hand don't you think it's weird that demise would be wearing the same clothes as ganon?
ruclips.net/video/hRcQRwjVhP0/видео.html at 50:30 this is what i am basing off of and is a very good sourse
@@newbeginnings1097 I’m arguing that Ganondorf is possessed by Demise’s residual consciousness
Is it Demise or Ganondorf? Doesn't matter
What makes you say that?
@@wizcatcheslightning Because they're connected
@@creativevisiongaming well we agree on that
@@wizcatcheslightning Also because I treat the Zelda games as separate universes even though I know there are timelines.
To your credit, the creators definitely leave the lore vague because their main focus is gameplay
Honestly seeing Ganondorf just be another vessel for Demise would feel extremely lame and forced, purely for how much better of a villain ‘Dorf is versus Demise. This is no knock on the vid or evidence btw, just a personal take.
I think a lot of people share your sentiment. I won’t complain if Demise were to return but Ganondorf finds a way to reign him.
I tend to wonder if Demise is content to wreak havock at this point and Ganon is a willing vessel, using destructive power to reign through fear.
@@bugslayerprime7674 definitely an interesting idea worth looking at
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Thank you 😎
we see fi fighting in hyrule warriors tho
Considered non canon (not that Nintendo won’t retcon it given the music choice of the final TOTK trailer) but thank you for mentioning that! I might have to look into that further.
Ye even tho it's non cannon you can also argue it's a stand alone timeline that draws from the other timelines because the whole game is a paradox
I was talking about Hyrule warriors legends , age of calamity is like a prequel to botw
@@KyloNeko I’ll take that point 😎
@@KyloNeko I do get those vibes for certain
Great job!
Thanks David!
multiverse ideas are getting tired and boring. i would hate if it’s a zeldaverse thing
Zelda was like the video game pioneer of the Zeldaverse ever since OOT, and I think they can explore a lot of cool ideas with it, so I don’t hate it 😎
Great vid! You make an already entertaining topic more so 😂
Thanks! That means a lot!
I hate the idea of a Zelda multiverse in a game. I don't mind there being two Gannon's from different eras but the multiverse trend is so played out.
I see where you’re coming from. Of course, this could all be flat out wrong, but it’s fun to think about. And I’ve always been fascinated by the split timelines ever since Wind Waker
@@wizcatcheslightning also, even though the multiverse idea isn't for me. Great video 👍🏻
@@PoopKingg thank you sir 🤗
I agree with this but the only thing that doesn’t makesense is that how does the sword break before they get to him
Before who gets to whom?
@@wizcatcheslightning ganondorfs corpse
@@Electronicmail436 ah. I’m saying it breaks after they get to his corpse
Also if demise comes back I cannot wait for that
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