SC pilot flying volunteer supply and rescue missions ordered out of Lake Lure under arrest threat. MORE HERE: www.qcnews.com/news/investigations/sc-pilot-flying-volunteer-supply-and-rescue-missions-ordered-out-of-lake-lure-under-arrest-threat/
Assholes who make videos like this, and then don't want to give you the name of the assshole fire chief who is a public figure. You can call lake lure fire department and it will give you hisb Voicemail
We've devolved into low vibe entitled jungle bunnies that grow marijuana indoors just to complain about power outages or fires created by them and dead firemen.
@@glennhubbard5008 that’s not the case at all. They are being responsible news people. Yes everyone wants, and now has, the asst fire chiefs name but they want to give him a chance to give his side. From what facts have been presented it appears the asst chief was being a d*ck but we don’t know if National a guard was coming to help. Newsrooms across the nation put out stories about the rich and famous all the time.
@@southbug27 I mean…why is this not national news? A disaster in recovery mode and the local government is turning away free help??? Make it make sense.
100% it’s is f* ego for sure ! I would have gotten in that helicopter and still went to picked up the spouse !! I would rather sit in jail and then sue thier ass then loss a life !! Sometimes disobedience is what is needed when it comes to saving people ❤
I read your comment numerous times. I think I finally get what you're saying, and I agree. You really need to work on your compositional skills when writing.
Bear this in mind folks. He is a fire chief, which means he’s been protecting his community for a very long time. On top of that we don’t have his side of the story. Whether he was right or wrong you shouldn’t condemn a man who spent his life serving others for just one argument.
@@taylormunson3605 gtfoh with that bs. hes on an ego trip during the biggest happening of his career, and wants to be mr big shot. well, who knows how many lives mr big shot just lost in his county
You sir....are truly a testiment to what America stands for. I'll fly with you ANY day of the week! And your boy has a great heart...he has an outstanding role model! Well done sir....just well done.
sadly true. alot of idiots that think they know better than the real pros. this guy put even more people in danger and should have his pilot's license revoked.
I would have gone back for the husband! Jail time or not! The fire chief isn't in charge of much now! LAKE LURE AND CHIMNEY ROCK ARE DEVASTATED! CHIMNEY ROCK IS JUST A DOT ON A MAP!
"We told you, Superman, the next time you go catching planes that are falling out of the air, we'll have to arrest you. Now put your hands behind your back."
@@carolynbrannon3707 there are other reports of people bringing water, food, generators, and they are being told no turn around and go back where you came from
@@bwinms1Where have you been the last 16 years. This democrat led government has destroyed America. Obama and Biden administrations have ruined this country. Will take decades to recover only if the people actually wake up and stop voting democrat.
Anyone else notice how kindness is being outlawed nowadays? You can't feed or help the poor, you can't rescue people with your helicopter regardless of your qualifications! It's just amazing how having a conscious is now frowned upon.
Yep learn to be your own first responder to the best of your ability for yourself and those around you cause the people who are supposed to help you aren't always the best people for the job. It sucks but that's the world we live in.
This is criminal. This is pathetic. You cant make them look bad. What was the charge for helping others? And was the chiefs actual plan. People still stranded & you cant volunteer so people dont die even if you're qualified? This sounds like a deliberate sabotage to help the public.
Officials can set up a TFR. Fire does that all the time in places like California, Oregon, Idaho. They do it so you don't cause problems with the planes fighting the fire. Not for something like this. He needs to be fired. No pension. He should know better than to threaten people with arrest. Firemen don't like it when it happens to them.
@@robertthomas5906They still have to go through FAA to set up a TFR. Barney Fife cannot randomly set up a TFR. They do not have flight knowledge or authority
@@adamhuffman3354 What are you talking about. Under visual flight rules VFR there is no requirement for a flight plan. Thousands of aircraft do it everyday.
The idiot that gave the order “not to interfere with HIS operation” should have his name publicized so we can let him know how much we appreciate his “leadership”
@@cameronreed5882 from the lake lure website this might be his boss. I'd maybe visit the lake lure fire department website, might have contact information. Dustin Waycaster Fire Chief / Emergency Mgmt. Director
Not the government but more like a volunteer FD chief with a chip on their shoulder… It’s sad that people don’t even know who the government is when they spout such nonsense.
SOB should be stripped of his position for staging a pissing contest over authority. All he had to do given this man's experience and training was to include him and his chopper as an additional tool. Since when are people's lives expendable in an emergency just so you can run the show the way you want to. Disgusting.
that is called a spontaneous volunteer, emergency situations allow for it, we have bulldozer drivers that help with wild fires, farmers with water trucks that act as tenders. maybe he is being paid to make it worse.
Those officials should be investigated and held responsible. They either are protecting someone or unable to hold their official positions, that they both got their position because of their degrees... Disgusting incompetence...
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief The media team in charge of this needs to lose their jobs for not informing the general public of the names of public officials.
@@hardpass9855 Sued for what? If you have multiple witnesses to the conversation. It is their job to report the news. It is their job to investigate the story. You call the chief's office and ask for his comment. If they had done this, the chief could have said we had copters on the way and didn't need anyone else in the air. Or they could have determined the Chief was a power hungry jerk who didn't like someone making him look bad. We will never know. But yes, they should have mentioned his name and contacted his office for comments.
And this is how stupidity is spread... the Fire officials story was not available (because they are probably busy) therefore giving their names out is well, not only stupid but incorrect information. But congratulations on using your keyboard and fingers to fight this battle. Just FYI...i cant begin to speak on their behalf and im just assuming; but after MULTIPLE Hurricane relief deployments (and yes ive been to worse ones than this) my guess is it was a safety issues for not only the rescuers but the individuals being rescued. For instance...if joe schmo in his private helicopter flies through a designated "rescue" fly zone with other aircraft; thats friggin dangerous as hell. The private helicopter pilot was not at the rescue briefings and therefore has no clue what channels to operate on much less how many other aircraft is out there. So yah... But thank you for your hard effort at "googling". The world is a much better place with you in it.
As a police officer me and my partner carried out 5 family members of a house who were near death due to carbon monoxide poisoning. The fire chief was livid when they arrived only to find all occupants out of the house and receiving treatment from EMTs who had just arrived. He filed a complaint against us saying that we could have potentially added to the number of victims needing rescue if we had become overwhelmed by the gas. So basically he wanted us to wait outside while people were dying. No doubt in my mind it was because he wanted the glory of the rescue for him and his crew. Two of the family were already in critical condition and probably would have died in the extra minutes it took for the FD to get there. But apparently he didn’t care about that. In the end our agency blew off his complaint. Some people care more about the glory than actually saving lives.
Or, he's a stickler for the rules and safety. Seems like a lot of first responders put their own safety above the safety of those in peril these days. It's likely drilled into them. But true heroes will risk their own lives to save another's life. You and your partner are heroes! Thank you for your service. May God richly bless you.
This situation needs to be investigated. This is rediculous. The woman's husband was left behind, to wonder, if the helicopter crashed. This is beyond terrible.
The fire chief should be prosecuted and imprisoned for endangering people’s lives by blocking air support help. The pilot said there was no temporary flight restrictions posted. Thus he didn’t do anything illegal.
From my understanding, the husband knows the helicopter didn't crash. The pilot came back for his son but had to leave the husband there. Which still sucks and is ridiculous, but at least the husband knows his wife is alive.
On the one hand, it’s overwhelming, and some folks respond certain ways to those stressors, on the other hand, that chief’s cutting off his nose to spite his face, and is frightened to accept unasked for air help he felt he wasn’t “in control of”. That’s the kindest thing I can offer in a situation like that. He’ll get to cover his ass when confronted publicly about this situation by saying “unauthorized resources” were in his area, but he failed the situation in this scenario. Long story short, that helo pilot will have opportunities to help in other areas with welcoming arms, lots of opportunities for him in a disaster this massive.🤨
Who gives a s*** how he felt? People were literally dying and he stood in the way preventing help. It's an immoral criminal act and he should be punished accordingly.
So if you come across a fire with a family of 7, what would that Fire chief allow you to do,play the fiddle as they burned to death?The rules in life and death situations are extremely fluid and if that fire chief in his little inflatable row boat can't keep up with the reality on the ground,he is unfit for his position.
@@FreshTillDeath56 I know, my response is directed at the Asst Chief. The pilot was great, there are lot's of private pilots from all over the country bringing in supplies and doing rescue work.
@@zayp1584. Because he’s evil. Lack of professional responsibility. Placing citizens in harms way by Obstructing Their Rescue Civil rights violations. He must be a lithium company compliance officer. He certainly didn’t assist the citizens he was hired to help in time of need Poster boy for Non Responders Let’s bet if he takes a new job in the other side of the state
if he would have agreed as chief that now puts this helicopter under the authority of the county meaning anything this helicopter does the county is liable for. Him thresting arrest established the helicopter was not being given permission. I know its an emergency who cares? The county also knows 5 years from now long after everything is fixed up people can be filing lawsuits for stuff the helicopter did. When it comes down to it dead people cost nothing, lawsuits do. Thats the world lawsuits have created. The chief understands this. AT most just for PR they will ask him to resign just to shut people up but he will still be paid and have health insurance to keep him from filing a lawsuit.
I heard that over the scanner. I can’t believe they did that to him. What is wrong with my county?!? Yes I’m in Rutherford County. That chief should be fired!
After many years as an emergency service worker I've found that this sort of response usually only comes in two forms; someone who has a deep emotional instability, (such as a Ted Bundy type), or someone with a lot of dirt on em. Normally responsible emergency response types don't act in this manner. The only other possibility would be this clown is woefully under trained, and needs to be relieved from any command position on the spot!
@@Mikexxx531 FEMA!. They believe they rule over people when there's a disaster of some type. Government agencies have given themselves authority over people, like they're slave masters and citizens are their slaves. The US Constitution does not give government the kind of authority it has assumed and given themselves over others. Remember how badly FEMA reacted during Hurricane Katrina. FEMA is a dysfunctional government agency that makes things worse, not better...
PUBLIC SERVANTS is the part these jerks keep forgetting when they are elected, or appointed. They are supposed to work for US. But, as soon as they get some power, they forget all about the "little people".
As a firefighter myself this is disgusting. When I see citizens helping each other it restores my faith in humanity. There is no reason for this and if there aren't other helicopters operating in the area I'm having a hard time seeing any problem.
Well that says alot about you and him. I am friends with several firefighters who feel the way you do. This choef cared more about personal glory than human life.
@@cardinmalone4974 if it doesnt fall under NFPA codes they really cant make you do anything regarding their authority. Basically don't cause obstruction and they cant have you arrested, unless youre some pyromaniac lighting babies on fire. Usually firefighters and emts are waaaaayy cooler than cops, in my experience.
I agree. Former law enforcement. They could have done more than threaten to arrest him. This was an emergency situation and they had limited resources at the time.
Just like in Lahaina , Maui when they blocked the road, preventing people bringing in supplies. The local people eventually brought in supplies by boat. So evil 👿
This happened at a flooding disaster in Germany...can't recall which year...within the last few years. People were without food and even clothing, literally nked. People tried to bring in food and clothing and were arrested and kept out of the area while officials did nothing to help the people.
@@robertapascal6962 in a normal emergency the “Incident Commander” of an incident does have a pretty broad legal authority over an area. But in this case it’s such a large incident where does his authority start and end?
Democrats don't care. You need to understand this. If you live in a blue city, you're on your own if there is a disaster. Look at Hawaii. Look at the Ohio train spill. Look at the port issues right now.
plus the elderly wife was abandoned without her husband by the fire chief with no plan in place for her safety. No man should be in a position of power including a fire chief without empathy for their fellow man. People like this are dangerous.
Maybe Big Chief did not want some outsider hero flying in (literally) and stealing all the glory from him. What a selfish attitude in this type of situation.
@@kwisclubta7175 how about reckless endangerment, dereliction of duty, preventing this man's constitutional right to travel within his country? those scum bag cops are literally enemy combatants, helping delete american citizens
Actions have consequences and some ppl don’t understand that. Its all hands on deck time. Theres a place for the “respect my authority” types and this isnt it.
"The nature of power is such that even those who have not sought it, but have had it forced upon them, tend to acquire a taste for more." - Aldous Huxley
Fire chief is an obvious traitor out to hurt Americans, the reason they don't want to help is that they are actively using imminent domain on all properties to then give them to illegals. Open your eyes people. They are actively trying to overthrow us, and the fire chief is in on it. Charge him with treason.
My dad is a fire chief and my brother a fire captain. We are all further north of here in Western, NC. This is infuriating and I hope that he is removed from his position immediately! If that was my family, I would sue him for all that he’s worth!
and the heartbreak that the elderly couple have now been separated!!! WTF is wrong with people! A guy with a huge heart went to help and save people and this IDIOT stopped him!!! He needs to be charged with further endangering life and, fired and locked in a cell!!!
This Fire Chief SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND SENT TO JAIL!!! If that elderly couple that he STOPPED from being rescued didn't survive, those lifes are on him!! 😡😡😡
"Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." Martin Luther King Jr.
By the way, anyone wanting complaint regarding assistant fire chief Chris Melton, you don't call him, you don't call his office, you call the governor of the state and the mayor's office of the town or province that he's in. when trying to reprimand someone or to correct them, do you go to them personally, or do you go to their superiors? The correct people to call are at the top, not the bottom. Call the governor's office and the mayor's office of his town in which he operates and demand that his job be revoked immediately for public endangerment.
@@JLu20 Your words are so true. On my part I'd say to call the tv and news stations or the newspaper's staff. No you never know who is in cahoots but it's worth trying the above.
He gave his credentials, and even had his own mode of transportation. The help was free, and they needed all the help they could get...what's the problem?
This pilot and his son should be hailed as true gallant heroes. The fire official should be fired and should be charged with subverting rescue efforts. This is unacceptable.
With the “MY OPERATION” comment, As a firefighter/paramedic I’m greatly concerned about how the Chief was running things. There’s NO WAY they’re able to handle all the victims out there, they need ALL the help they can get right now. No TFR in place, how the hell does that idiot think he has ANY jurisdiction?!? I’m greatly disappointed and seems he may have cost some people their lives. Bravo to the father and son 👏👏
As a retired EMT/Rescue Technician, as soon as I heard the words "My Operation", I knew what kind of officer I was hearing about. He could have given the pilot instruction on who to contact, and how, to get him on board with the operations. Instead he tried to throw his weight around.
So if ANYTHING happens to her husband before help can reach him, we know who to blame. Who the hell turns down help??? We literally had 40 men with machetes go into the mountains to help find people and no one batted an eye. This guy has a helicopter, a super helpful tool, and thats an issue?
At his own cost. The expense of flying a helicopter is not cheap!!!! These are the people AMERICA NEEDS!!!! NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DO SOMETHING JUST FOR POWER AND RECOGNITION!!!!! Do it because you value human lives!!!
A brief search of emergency flight restrictions in the lake lure nc area reveals no such flight restrictions exist at this time pertaining to private rescue efforts as of 7:42am on 10/1/2024. I'm quite sure that this fire chief has overstepped the scope of his authority and as such should be removed from operational control of the area pending an investigation. Should his orders or actions directly or indirectly cause harm to those needing emergency services before this removal he should be held criminally and civilly liable for that harm.
!FDC 4/2727 ZTL NC..AIRSPACE SHELTON LAUREL, NC..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR SECTION 91.137(A)(1), TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 354129N0830306W (SOT184005.9) TO 354151N0830258W (SOT183005.5) TO 354126N0830155W (SOT174006) TO 354035N0830111W (SOT171007) TO 354017N0825952W (SOT163007.6) TO 353950N0825916W (SOT161008.2) TO 353925N0825919W (SOT163008.6) TO 353925N0825928W (SOT163008.5) TO 353944N0825930W (SOT163008.2) TO 354002N0830005W (SOT165007.8) TO 354013N0830127W (SOT173007.3) TO 354027N0830216W (SOT178007) TO 354109N0830228W (SOT179006.3) TO POINT OF ORIGIN SFC-400FT AGL EFFECTIVE 2410011200 UTC (0800 LOCAL 10/01/24) UNTIL 2410012200 UTC (1800 LOCAL 10/01/24). DUE TO SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS. ONLY RELIEF ACFT OPS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF NORTH CAROLINA TASK FORCE 8 ARE AUTH IN THE AIRSPACE. THE NC TASK FORCE 8 , CHRIS CARDWELL, TEL 336-213-2177, IS IN CHARGE OF THE OPS. THE SYSTEM OPERATIONS SUPPORT CENTER /FAA/ SOSC, TEL 202-267-8276, IS THE CDN FAC. 2410011200-2410012200
Such BS. You know to never rely on the government for your own personal safety and rescue, but when they start standing in the way of brave men and women like this to thwart their efforts, they’ve taken it to a whole new level.
Chris Melton was identified as the assistant fire chief of Lake Lure as the official who confronted and threatened to arrest Jordan Seidhom during his rescue operations.
How ridiculous to let one’s pride get in the way of help in a disaster. ..What else could it be? This is a humanitarian disaster: All hands on deck and all help should be welcome. - People are dying?? Well done that man and his son for taking the initiative.
"Stop helping people! That's our job and you're making us look bad." - Government That fire chief gets fired IMMEDIATELY!!! All his pension, insurance, whatever is stripped immediately.
that had nothing to do with the government. That had to do with an ignorant man protecting his power with his arrogant pride. Men who prefer power over empathy are dangerous.
@@mortalclown3812 Neah, that's just your awesome govt. at work. More govt. handouts and more frivelous taxpayer money spent, if they look overwhelmed. Why not let the citizens and volunteers help if they have the means?? I think you're wrong clown!!
Always remember after a disaster, government agencies always take a while to get to areas in wide spread situations like these. Good samaritans and their resources are always gonna be around first so let them help. That fire chief was just mad he wasn't there first so he can look like the hero with his big panties.
Help. DO hatever you can. As soon as the sun as up I heard chainsaws, tractors...all the "first responders" around here were farmers. They were up and in it before the power trucks got here. They managed to clear some roads, and fallen power lines before the trucks showed up to facilitate their repair. People moved debris from roads. As soon as the internet as back up, requests for help started coming out. Locally, we started hitting all of those possible. fuel, formula, medicine, water. This is rural VA, and we were not "technically" HIT but the edges of that monster storm got us pretty good. I've seen a dozen hurricaines in my life, this as the wIDEST, and most fierce. we'll be okay; my heart goes out to those trapped. Nobody here waited a SECOND for the police to "control" the situation; they just headed out to help. Somebody duct tape that crazy fire marshell, and KEEP going in to get survivors!!!!!!
At heart, he is NOT a good person and is fully ego driven. If he was doing his job to help people, he would welcome additional help. I don't know the guy, but this is my opinion from observing how he (and many other government gangsters) operate.
I was a first responder for 16 years. The fire chief or assistant chiefs decision to chase help away makes no logical sense. Unless he wanted all the glory for himself and his department. Sadly many departments when logging their response calls they do so with the purpose of sending out fund rising letters later. This particular fire officer should be investigated as to why he denied assistance. I was a line officer for 12 of the 16 years and I would have begged for qualified assistance and given the man an award afterwards.
I suspect FeMa or some other "big brother" department is telling local municipalities to stand down and obey orders. We saw how that worked out on Uvalde, Texas.
No disrespect to you, but the victim is always the first responder. You are always the primary individual responsible for your own protection, safety, or rescue. Someone located nearby is the second responder. If there is a violent confrontation, then the police are at best the 3rd responder. If there is a violent confrontation, then EMS/Fire follow after the police come in so they are the 4th responder. While I thank you for dedicating your life in service of others, this shows what can and invariable does happen when you rely on the Government to save your bacon.
Oh no, we can’t have people going around cleaning up parks or doing good deeds. Why, that’d be illegal. We can’t have the world becoming a better place now should we.
@@TragicideManagement at my apartment complex said "it's not your responsibility to make things look nice". Picking up trash and cigarette butts that people throw in the ground. People just sit and look at the trash rather than pick it up!
Me: "Good luck with that, Chief. I'm former Air Force Special Operations and I don't leave victims behind. If you want to have me arrested for being a good samaritan then I will be happy to embarrass TF out of you in court and to the media. Now get out of my way and out of my LZ."
Sadly, with 29 years experience with ICS ( Incident Command System ), absolutely well meaning efforts just add to the cluster**k that is the initial response period . I've never seen a private individual jump in when what Incident Command & On-Scene Commander are trying to do is coordinate hundreds of multi-agency flights, equipment, supplies, and efforts to rescue the maximum number of people. There should be, if there isn't, a way to utilize all potential assets though.
Under orders from John Pelletier, former incident commander in Las Vegas after the old guy got hundreds of pounds of ammo and weapons into a secure hotel with bullet proof glass windows to shoot out multidirectional and multicaliber cover up.
Dont forget who the actual aggressor is when arrest is threatened. THEY need them to subjugate the rest of us. The man in this video is an example that heros always make themselves apparent and dont wear badges.
SC pilot flying volunteer supply and rescue missions ordered out of Lake Lure under arrest threat. MORE HERE: www.qcnews.com/news/investigations/sc-pilot-flying-volunteer-supply-and-rescue-missions-ordered-out-of-lake-lure-under-arrest-threat/
Stop deleting my comments there isn’t anything vulgar about it just giving the name and phone number of the fire chief.
@@alandavid8914 Exclude the phone number, your comment has a better chance of not being banned.
Assholes who make videos like this, and then don't want to give you the name of the assshole fire chief who is a public figure. You can call lake lure fire department and it will give you hisb Voicemail
@@cliffray1683I called left messages for him the general voice ox for the fire company and the mayor of a lake lure
@@alandavid8914can you say what fire deoartment building it was that ordered this guy under threat of arrest?
There is no reason anyone should be threatened with jail for helping another American.
This is disgusting.
Its because they want to be the only ones in the camera lens
Why tf does it matter if they're an American?
@Adelicows obviously you don't know the map?
There could be any race, but American was generalized....
We've devolved into low vibe entitled jungle bunnies that grow marijuana indoors just to complain about power outages or fires created by them and dead firemen.
Hopefully the fire chief is elected, not appointed.
Dont redact his name. Stop protecting a public official.
Press: It is our duty to protect the wealthy and powerful.
@@glennhubbard5008 that’s not the case at all. They are being responsible news people. Yes everyone wants, and now has, the asst fire chiefs name but they want to give him a chance to give his side. From what facts have been presented it appears the asst chief was being a d*ck but we don’t know if National a guard was coming to help. Newsrooms across the nation put out stories about the rich and famous all the time.
They even "beeped out", the lady's address, where she was begging for help, WHY? Mainstream Media is against helping? Nice...Ridicilious
His name is Chris Melton.
Glenn don’t forget they love to protect the child abusers.
Fire Chief should be IMMEDIATELY fired. This is totally unjustified. His ego is out of control.
He should go to jail too.
@@southbug27 I mean…why is this not national news? A disaster in recovery mode and the local government is turning away free help??? Make it make sense.
Probably power hungry volunteers FD
100% it’s is f* ego for sure ! I would have gotten in that helicopter and still went to picked up the spouse !! I would rather sit in jail and then sue thier ass then loss a life !! Sometimes disobedience is what is needed when it comes to saving people ❤
@@irinasvidunovich6264 I completely agree.
SC PILOT WE THANK YOU!!!
A PERSOANL THANK YOU FOR YOUR GALLANT ATTEMPT SAVE PEOPLE WHO WERE STRANDED AND DESTITUTE!
Fire Chief - "We are overwhelmed and don't have enough resources, but no... you can't help". Pathetic.
Pilot hurt his ego. Fragile people are some of societies worst enemies
The bureaucrats belongs in prison for life
Maybe he doesn't want to have to clean up this idiots wanna be helicopter. It's not exactly a Chinook. He left his son to "rescue" someone else? Wow.
😂😂😂 Yea OK. You don't show up to a forest fire with a cup of water. That helicopter is a joke.
Are you that fire official?
So when the people die , the people that stopped him should be charged with murder!
I read your comment numerous times. I think I finally get what you're saying, and I agree. You really need to work on your compositional skills when writing.
@@Bob1014ifyOPs message is pretty clear. You need to work on your comprehension skills.
What she said is 100% clear maybe you need to check yourself bud.@@Bob1014ify
@@muky1248the grammar is poor.
I understood first try.
nah nope.
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
we are not going to protect the names of these people
Bear this in mind folks. He is a fire chief, which means he’s been protecting his community for a very long time. On top of that we don’t have his side of the story. Whether he was right or wrong you shouldn’t condemn a man who spent his life serving others for just one argument.
@@taylormunson3605 The Rules of Evidence should play out. But when innocent people are DYING, the Rules fly out the window. Sorry.
@@taylormunson3605no no no. He wants to be big shot in charge he gets all the heat.
@@taylormunson3605 gtfoh with that bs. hes on an ego trip during the biggest happening of his career, and wants to be mr big shot. well, who knows how many lives mr big shot just lost in his county
@taylormunson3605 its true there are 2 sides to a story. But he will need to account for his side.
So sad that they would not let this pilot continue. Help is help. Thank you to the pilot and his son. Thank you again.
Legally, a public official has no right to privacy. You shouldn’t be keeping his name from the people.
Did you not watch the full story? It wouldn't be right publishing his name while he can't give his side of the story.
Yall have lost yalls mind
Explain the Biden, Harris dilemma then
@@joeb134His side huh?
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
Complete TRASH
You can’t say Waycaster as fast as that beep, that narrows it down, doesn’t it?
No one answers the phone
@@tonyg4622i left them a message😂
Found DW on Facebook. Claims to be religious. Apparently not.
Name him. He's a public official. He probably wears his name on his shirt. It's all public information.
he broke his oath and must deal with the consequences!
They're trying not to jam local communications with complaints durning an emergency. He'll get his attention soon enough.
YES!!!!!!
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
The official's name: Lake Lure Assistant Fire Chief Chris Melton
You sir....are truly a testiment to what America stands for. I'll fly with you ANY day of the week! And your boy has a great heart...he has an outstanding role model! Well done sir....just well done.
Dude! He left the guy behind. Pick better heroes.
sadly true. alot of idiots that think they know better than the real pros. this guy put even more people in danger and should have his pilot's license revoked.
How is it against the law for a pilot with a personal helicopter to help victims of events like this? This is freaking America
Randy?
@@Gryffyth_Aurum😂😂😂
Not in the woke world.
@@boulderbash19700209 I guarantee that assistant fire chief voted for Trump.
Certain bureaucrats are doing their best to change that. 😠
That fire chief wont be in charge of very much after this story breaks.
I would have gone back for the husband! Jail time or not!
The fire chief isn't in charge of much now! LAKE LURE AND CHIMNEY ROCK ARE DEVASTATED! CHIMNEY ROCK IS JUST A DOT ON A MAP!
I don't know about that. I have a lemonade stand that I might need some help with.
Chief Chris Melton, spread the word.
@@BajatheChickenMan pretty sure that's not his name based on the Lake Lure Fire web site.
@@BajatheChickenManChris melton is the assistant chief.
Imagine telling someone to stop saving people's lives.
"We told you, Superman, the next time you go catching planes that are falling out of the air, we'll have to arrest you. Now put your hands behind your back."
Right, as a fireman also….crazy
I don't have to imagine that New York is a place......
It’s very sad. Even the thought of them using weather manipulation to make the storm hit in a certain area to take out Republicans so they can’t vote.
It's this govt!!!!!!!!
Well done - you and your son!
Fire chief should be arrested.
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Agreed 💯
Right a lot of things SHOULD be happening but they’re not. Been wishing in one hand and shitting in the other for the past ten years.
@@carolynbrannon3707 there are other reports of people bringing water, food, generators, and they are being told no turn around and go back where you came from
I bet the chief is a Biden voter.
When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty - Thomas Jefferson
Amen!
Oh stop. America rocks
@@bwinms1Where have you been the last 16 years. This democrat led government has destroyed America. Obama and Biden administrations have ruined this country. Will take decades to recover only if the people actually wake up and stop voting democrat.
@@bwinms1
And would rock a lot more if we practiced our 2A like it was intended.
its time for duty.
Anyone else notice how kindness is being outlawed nowadays? You can't feed or help the poor, you can't rescue people with your helicopter regardless of your qualifications! It's just amazing how having a conscious is now frowned upon.
EXACTLY 💯
Sometimes is better to ask for forgiveness than permission
Yep learn to be your own first responder to the best of your ability for yourself and those around you cause the people who are supposed to help you aren't always the best people for the job. It sucks but that's the world we live in.
my thoughts exactly... I can't believe people are shaming this man and his son. The Peanut Gallery is unbelievable!!!
This is criminal. This is pathetic. You cant make them look bad. What was the charge for helping others? And was the chiefs actual plan. People still stranded & you cant volunteer so people dont die even if you're qualified? This sounds like a deliberate sabotage to help the public.
WHAT A SHAME FOR FIRE CHIEF THREATENING A PERSON WHEN HE WANTS TO RESCUE PEOPLE!!!HE MUST BE ARRESTED!
FAA controls the airspace, not a fire chief
Officials can set up a TFR. Fire does that all the time in places like California, Oregon, Idaho. They do it so you don't cause problems with the planes fighting the fire. Not for something like this. He needs to be fired. No pension. He should know better than to threaten people with arrest. Firemen don't like it when it happens to them.
@@robertthomas5906They still have to go through FAA to set up a TFR. Barney Fife cannot randomly set up a TFR. They do not have flight knowledge or authority
you don't know what he F you are talking about
Exactly! Can’t have random aircraft flying around without an actual flight plan.
@@adamhuffman3354 What are you talking about. Under visual flight rules VFR there is no requirement for a flight plan. Thousands of aircraft do it everyday.
When people have to ask the government for permission to rescue individuals, i would stop listening.
Oh heck ya!!
There is lithium in those hills. The green new deal mining companies would sure find a higher death toll from this hurricane convenient.
@@sheldoniusRex this is actually a really good point. I hadn't put that together tbh, but you're absolutely right
Each state is Sovereign- Enough of bureaucracy! Time for Democracy !
Ja, thats insane. Taking bureaucrats in front before helping people is simply sick. Be shame on these officials
The idiot that gave the order “not to interfere with HIS operation” should have his name publicized so we can let him know how much we appreciate his “leadership”
His name is Jack A$$
Assistant Fire Chief Chris Melton
Social media is going to destroy Mr Melton. Just wait and see.
His picture 🤣
@@cameronreed5882
from the lake lure website this might be his boss. I'd maybe visit the lake lure fire department website, might have contact information.
Dustin Waycaster
Fire Chief / Emergency Mgmt. Director
These people helping others are heroes! People that stop and threaten the heroes should be sitting in jail for a long time out. Shame on them
The pilot violated the fire chief's ego, plain and simple.
exactly
Exactly
That police chief needs to step aside! He cannot help those ppl! Let this man in there to save those ppl for God's sake!!!!
😭 Ahhh chiefy don't have a helicopter or pilot's license
😅 LOSER SERVED
Yep, and you'd think he would know enough to avoid that from the popular saying by America's Fire Chief Brunacini that: "Ego eats brain".
“I’m from the government and I’m here to help stop you from helping your neighbors.”
Best comment.
Exactly
That to me is called a Jack A$$.
Stop voting stop paying stop obeying duhhh the govt is satanic duhhh just stop n start doing for ourselves
Not the government but more like a volunteer FD chief with a chip on their shoulder… It’s sad that people don’t even know who the government is when they spout such nonsense.
SOB should be stripped of his position for staging a pissing contest over authority. All he had to do given this man's experience and training was to include him and his chopper as an additional tool. Since when are people's lives expendable in an emergency just so you can run the show the way you want to. Disgusting.
He’s probably a democrat
that is called a spontaneous volunteer, emergency situations allow for it, we have bulldozer drivers that help with wild fires, farmers with water trucks that act as tenders. maybe he is being paid to make it worse.
"liability liability liability liability liability" a pos with no morals favorite word
Absolutely!!!!
@@millhouseiguess5645
In a disaster situation, that is pure BS !!! Zero moral compass in leadership !!!
Those officials should be investigated and held responsible. They either are protecting someone or unable to hold their official positions, that they both got their position because of their degrees... Disgusting incompetence...
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
The media team in charge of this needs to lose their jobs for not informing the general public of the names of public officials.
No because they can be sued. It’s not hard to look up the names
@@hardpass9855And it should be capital treason to sue the media for such a thing.
@@hardpass9855 Sued for what? If you have multiple witnesses to the conversation. It is their job to report the news. It is their job to investigate the story. You call the chief's office and ask for his comment. If they had done this, the chief could have said we had copters on the way and didn't need anyone else in the air. Or they could have determined the Chief was a power hungry jerk who didn't like someone making him look bad. We will never know. But yes, they should have mentioned his name and contacted his office for comments.
Sued! BS. The media is CONTROLLED!. They're ONLY doing what their PAID to do by their CONTROLLERS. This is SHAMEFUL! SHAMEFUL!
And this is how stupidity is spread... the Fire officials story was not available (because they are probably busy) therefore giving their names out is well, not only stupid but incorrect information. But congratulations on using your keyboard and fingers to fight this battle.
Just FYI...i cant begin to speak on their behalf and im just assuming; but after MULTIPLE Hurricane relief deployments (and yes ive been to worse ones than this) my guess is it was a safety issues for not only the rescuers but the individuals being rescued.
For instance...if joe schmo in his private helicopter flies through a designated "rescue" fly zone with other aircraft; thats friggin dangerous as hell. The private helicopter pilot was not at the rescue briefings and therefore has no clue what channels to operate on much less how many other aircraft is out there. So yah...
But thank you for your hard effort at "googling". The world is a much better place with you in it.
As a police officer me and my partner carried out 5 family members of a house who were near death due to carbon monoxide poisoning. The fire chief was livid when they arrived only to find all occupants out of the house and receiving treatment from EMTs who had just arrived. He filed a complaint against us saying that we could have potentially added to the number of victims needing rescue if we had become overwhelmed by the gas. So basically he wanted us to wait outside while people were dying. No doubt in my mind it was because he wanted the glory of the rescue for him and his crew. Two of the family were already in critical condition and probably would have died in the extra minutes it took for the FD to get there. But apparently he didn’t care about that. In the end our agency blew off his complaint. Some people care more about the glory than actually saving lives.
Thank you for critical thinking, compassion, and saving a family.
Good man would have you as my shift partner. I hate egos that the chiefs he puts vanity over life.
Its most of them
Thank you for doing the right thing! ❤
Or, he's a stickler for the rules and safety. Seems like a lot of first responders put their own safety above the safety of those in peril these days. It's likely drilled into them. But true heroes will risk their own lives to save another's life. You and your partner are heroes! Thank you for your service. May God richly bless you.
Chief was mad you were making progress and he wasn’t. You embarrassed the chief. Well the chief is a chump
You damn straight he is! 😖
The chief was ordered by other higher ups to ignore those stranded people. Some government or corporate entity wants all those people dead.
This is conspiratorial and treacherous; a complete betrayal of the US citizens
Exactly the Chief allowed his ego to get in the way.
Vegas nicole
This situation needs to be investigated. This is rediculous. The woman's husband was left behind, to wonder, if the helicopter crashed. This is beyond terrible.
The fire chief should be prosecuted and imprisoned for endangering people’s lives by blocking air support help.
The pilot said there was no temporary flight restrictions posted. Thus he didn’t do anything illegal.
From my understanding, the husband knows the helicopter didn't crash. The pilot came back for his son but had to leave the husband there. Which still sucks and is ridiculous, but at least the husband knows his wife is alive.
The fire chief is a disgrace
On the one hand, it’s overwhelming, and some folks respond certain ways to those stressors, on the other hand, that chief’s cutting off his nose to spite his face, and is frightened to accept unasked for air help he felt he wasn’t “in control of”. That’s the kindest thing I can offer in a situation like that.
He’ll get to cover his ass when confronted publicly about this situation by saying “unauthorized resources” were in his area, but he failed the situation in this scenario.
Long story short, that helo pilot will have opportunities to help in other areas with welcoming arms, lots of opportunities for him in a disaster this massive.🤨
it's almost as if the usa's mean culture of white supremacy has some knock-on effects on people's psychology...
Nice to see it both ways to Sunday, not to many on the internet like to reason anymore. @@leohorishny9561
Who gives a s*** how he felt? People were literally dying and he stood in the way preventing help. It's an immoral criminal act and he should be punished accordingly.
So if you come across a fire with a family of 7, what would that Fire chief allow you to do,play the fiddle as they burned to death?The rules in life and death situations are extremely fluid and if that fire chief in his little inflatable row boat can't keep up with the reality on the ground,he is unfit for his position.
When will Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief be arrested for reckless endangerment ?
Many of those positions are part of a "good 'ol boy" buddy network in those regions. He probably hunts and fishes with the judges.
Probably never considering we have one side of a four sided story. How about facts before you get the lynch mob going.
@@AbstractM0use doesnt matter in the face of overwhelming complaints
ASSISTANT Fire chief Chris Melton. And they’re actively scrubbing comments on their FB page
Rather than working in the field to help people......
Scrubbing comments is illegal
So they’re taking the time to scrub comments rather than save people. Pathetic. He’s the devil.
@@mysteryyyyyy Not from a personal page it isn't. If it's from an official page, that's another story entirely.
Well he won't be scrubbing THIS!!
God bless everyone who helped. Praying for all if you. You did a good job!
God bless you for your efforts in prayer, may they be multiplied, thank you, Selah, Amen.
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Good grief… stopping rescues so you can be the hero… it’s disgusting
He wasn't trying to be a hero, he is a small man with a little authority and he was going to show it. Pfft.
Yes, but they are no the hero.
@KurgerBurger the comment is referring to the corrupt fire chief, not the pilot.
@@FreshTillDeath56 I know, my response is directed at the Asst Chief. The pilot was great, there are lot's of private pilots from all over the country bringing in supplies and doing rescue work.
They are not rescue, they are private citizens, trying to help.
Lake Lure’s Fire Chief needs to be fired and charged with risking other people’s lives due to his arrogance. What a scumbag. Insane
@@Gregjosborn why?
@@zayp1584 For the reasons listed 🤷
@@zayp1584. Because he’s evil. Lack of professional responsibility. Placing citizens in harms way by Obstructing Their Rescue
Civil rights violations.
He must be a lithium company compliance officer. He certainly didn’t assist the citizens he was hired to help in time of need
Poster boy for Non Responders
Let’s bet if he takes a new job in the other side of the state
@@zayp1584 read the other comments it's all about his ego
if he would have agreed as chief that now puts this helicopter under the authority of the county meaning anything this helicopter does the county is liable for. Him thresting arrest established the helicopter was not being given permission. I know its an emergency who cares? The county also knows 5 years from now long after everything is fixed up people can be filing lawsuits for stuff the helicopter did. When it comes down to it dead people cost nothing, lawsuits do. Thats the world lawsuits have created. The chief understands this. AT most just for PR they will ask him to resign just to shut people up but he will still be paid and have health insurance to keep him from filing a lawsuit.
I heard that over the scanner. I can’t believe they did that to him. What is wrong with my county?!? Yes I’m in Rutherford County. That chief should be fired!
So it’s the Rutherford County fire chief. Internet sleuths, get on it!!
I am too, Im not sure if it was the chief or assistant chief of Lake Lure FPD, either way he should be ashamed of himself!
Wow! I’d be coming for you if you made somebody leave me. You’d best be hoping I didn’t get out.
U.N.
After many years as an emergency service worker I've found that this sort of response usually only comes in two forms; someone who has a deep emotional instability, (such as a Ted Bundy type), or someone with a lot of dirt on em. Normally responsible emergency response types don't act in this manner. The only other possibility would be this clown is woefully under trained, and needs to be relieved from any command position on the spot!
A good commander takes all the help they could get and adds them into the rescue operation.
Too many public SERVANTS have little dictator syndrome
True, but I do think it's bigger than that. We need to find out who gave the chief orders!
@@Mikexxx531 FEMA!. They believe they rule over people when there's a disaster of some type. Government agencies have given themselves authority over people, like they're slave masters and citizens are their slaves. The US Constitution does not give government the kind of authority it has assumed and given themselves over others. Remember how badly FEMA reacted during Hurricane Katrina. FEMA is a dysfunctional government agency that makes things worse, not better...
PUBLIC SERVANTS is the part these jerks keep forgetting when they are elected, or appointed. They are supposed to work for US. But, as soon as they get some power, they forget all about the "little people".
Ha! I see what you did there!
It's the power paradox. The last people who should have power are the people who want it, and the only people who deserve power simply don't want it.
As a firefighter myself this is disgusting. When I see citizens helping each other it restores my faith in humanity. There is no reason for this and if there aren't other helicopters operating in the area I'm having a hard time seeing any problem.
Well that says alot about you and him. I am friends with several firefighters who feel the way you do. This choef cared more about personal glory than human life.
Firefighter don't have any authority to make any arrests without reasons like the police do. Do they?
@@cardinmalone4974 if it doesnt fall under NFPA codes they really cant make you do anything regarding their authority. Basically don't cause obstruction and they cant have you arrested, unless youre some pyromaniac lighting babies on fire.
Usually firefighters and emts are waaaaayy cooler than cops, in my experience.
Thank you for your service
I agree. Former law enforcement. They could have done more than threaten to arrest him. This was an emergency situation and they had limited resources at the time.
One must simply ACT...never ask for permission... I hope you understand this and protect your Freedoms.
Just like in Lahaina , Maui when they blocked the road, preventing people bringing in supplies. The local people eventually brought in supplies by boat. So evil 👿
They did the same thing at the elementry school in new mexico. 300 cops were arresting and beating up parents instead of saving the children.
They don't get it? It's their time to shine they want people interfering with their moment
Yeah.. it's almost by plan
@@auntyleilei1926 they just like telling people what to do
This happened at a flooding disaster in Germany...can't recall which year...within the last few years. People were without food and even clothing, literally nked. People tried to bring in food and clothing and were arrested and kept out of the area while officials did nothing to help the people.
That chief needs to be fired and charged with interfering with rescuing an elderly person in need during a serious natural disaster.
That’s not a charge but okay
I think he was fired today.
@@j.taylor5791 shut up
Back the blue logic
She died
That Chief had no authority at that moment to threaten arrest.
Exactly! Why is HIS operation?
@@robertapascal6962 in a normal emergency the “Incident Commander” of an incident does have a pretty broad legal authority over an area. But in this case it’s such a large incident where does his authority start and end?
yeah but he probably had a bullet in his shirt pocket
40 Trillion gallons of Rain fell during Helene. Key areas got devastated as shown by laser
This is much larger than 2 ppl
that cheif nees to face the people he left stranded and denied a trained man giving his time and son to help!!!
Nope. No way I would not have listened to them if they said not to help!! Ridiculous.
Chris Melton looks exactly like a professional who throws a fit when volunteers outperform him
Is that the fire chief? He should be fucking charged with negligent homicide for trying to stop rescue operations.
Dustin Waycaster looks to be one step above.
The handlebar mustache tells me all I need to know about that guy
Looks like a big pudgy toddler with ridiculous facial hair.
Ego
Fire chief threatened him to abandon a minor, thats a crime, its called child endagerment
Yes, it is!!!
Absolute craziness
Democrats don't care. You need to understand this. If you live in a blue city, you're on your own if there is a disaster. Look at Hawaii. Look at the Ohio train spill. Look at the port issues right now.
plus the elderly wife was abandoned without her husband by the fire chief with no plan in place for her safety. No man should be in a position of power including a fire chief without empathy for their fellow man. People like this are dangerous.
No it isn't.........
We are truly a sick, sick country when compassion is an offense punishable by being arrested.
Let the wrong kind of people have power.
Clinton’s, Obamas, Bidens have destroyed our country and whacking away at morals.
😂 so this is new to yall huh?
Maybe Big Chief did not want some outsider hero flying in (literally) and stealing all the glory from him. What a selfish attitude in this type of situation.
Agree
They got time to arrest people but not to help. Make it make sense.
Those two cops who were willing to arrest the pilot should be named, arrested, and charged.
Charged with what? Lol
@@kwisclubta7175 enforcing the law lol
They should be charged with attempted murder and the murder of anyone that dies in that immediate area after that happened
@@kwisclubta7175 how about reckless endangerment, dereliction of duty, preventing this man's constitutional right to travel within his country? those scum bag cops are literally enemy combatants, helping delete american citizens
I hear there's openings for them in canada
These officials that were in charge, need to resign immediately. Public safety should be priority
And be arrested for interfering with rescue efforts!!!
Understand, that fire chief isn't going to survive the week as soon as locals catch wind of this.
S&R operations have an inherent degree of risk.......
Actions have consequences and some ppl don’t understand that. Its all hands on deck time. Theres a place for the “respect my authority” types and this isnt it.
Yeah he will. Government does whatever they want, the people do nothing.
This is bull! The man is trying to help not jump through hoops!
@@larryldmason I'd be willing to argue there's no place for "respect my authority" types in America. Respect is earned, not bestowed with a title.
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief
Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief
Dont redact his name. Stop protecting a public official.
No one should STOP people from helping PERIOD!
Chief Ego..Drunk with power..
Logistics.
Special kind of stupid!
"The nature of power is such that even those who have not sought it, but have had it forced upon them, tend to acquire a taste for more." - Aldous Huxley
@@georgelayton6641That’s not logistics.
How does a fire chef sp have more power than law enforcement?
You're what we consider a HERO. THANK YOU.
It's kind hearted pp like this, that makes this so wonderful ❤️
Disgusting. That fire chief needs investigated and possibly charged with endangerment
Of course
Democrat
Fire chief is an obvious traitor out to hurt Americans, the reason they don't want to help is that they are actively using imminent domain on all properties to then give them to illegals. Open your eyes people. They are actively trying to overthrow us, and the fire chief is in on it. Charge him with treason.
@@victormontes7007 YES I've been saying that all along it's political!
My dad is a fire chief and my brother a fire captain. We are all further north of here in Western, NC. This is infuriating and I hope that he is removed from his position immediately! If that was my family, I would sue him for all that he’s worth!
There can’t be any possible or legitimate excuse for this display of arrogance?
and the heartbreak that the elderly couple have now been separated!!! WTF is wrong with people! A guy with a huge heart went to help and save people and this IDIOT stopped him!!! He needs to be charged with further endangering life and, fired and locked in a cell!!!
If worth is based on actions he ain’t worth anything.
He would be counted as a hurricane victim that’s for sure, Must of fell in the water poor fella. Hope his boys can fish him out.
Agreed.
I hope that woman and her husband sue. Nice job preventing rescues
This Fire Chief SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND SENT TO JAIL!!! If that elderly couple that he STOPPED from being rescued didn't survive, those lifes are on him!! 😡😡😡
That dudes ego probably cost lives.
"Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way." Martin Luther King Jr.
Amen
Totally agree
Wise words
I'll bet you and almost everyone who liked your comment eats animals every day.
Everyone cares about animal cruelty until it's time to eat.
Beautiful !
By the way, anyone wanting complaint regarding assistant fire chief Chris Melton, you don't call him, you don't call his office, you call the governor of the state and the mayor's office of the town or province that he's in.
when trying to reprimand someone or to correct them, do you go to them personally, or do you go to their superiors?
The correct people to call are at the top, not the bottom. Call the governor's office and the mayor's office of his town in which he operates and demand that his job be revoked immediately for public endangerment.
Yes if you want something, go to the top!
What if the top down authorities are in-cahoots? What if this creep/murder was s allowing fellow citizens to die because following orders?
@@JLu20 Your words are so true. On my part I'd say to call the tv and news stations or the newspaper's staff. No you never know who is in cahoots but it's worth trying the above.
@@JLu20 That's when you and your neighbors take your head out of your asses and vote them out. Duh. You act like you guys didn't put them there.
He gave his credentials, and even had his own mode of transportation. The help was free, and they needed all the help they could get...what's the problem?
What a true hero
So sad that people had to be left behind .
This pilot and his son should be hailed as true gallant heroes. The fire official should be fired and should be charged with subverting rescue efforts. This is unacceptable.
Charged with subverting rescue efforts, you say? Is that a state of federal crime? 😊
Charged with federal civil rights violations, a most serious case of acting under color of law.
With the “MY OPERATION” comment, As a firefighter/paramedic I’m greatly concerned about how the Chief was running things. There’s NO WAY they’re able to handle all the victims out there, they need ALL the help they can get right now. No TFR in place, how the hell does that idiot think he has ANY jurisdiction?!? I’m greatly disappointed and seems he may have cost some people their lives. Bravo to the father and son 👏👏
Let's hope no people died due to his ego.
@@thystaff742 They probably will.
100%, that means he's power hungry he's on a power trip. Doesn't play well with others
“MY OPERATION”? The scumbag had the audacity to say that? What a fkn head case.
As a retired EMT/Rescue Technician, as soon as I heard the words "My Operation", I knew what kind of officer I was hearing about. He could have given the pilot instruction on who to contact, and how, to get him on board with the operations. Instead he tried to throw his weight around.
So if ANYTHING happens to her husband before help can reach him, we know who to blame. Who the hell turns down help??? We literally had 40 men with machetes go into the mountains to help find people and no one batted an eye. This guy has a helicopter, a super helpful tool, and thats an issue?
@@PORSCHE_COUNTRY. Yes, he has authority over the entire operation, but he used his authority the wrong way.
@@gp3918 He only has authority if someone is interfering with his operation. How was the chopper interfering?
It's an issue because it takes the glory of saving the county from the Fire Chief
At his own cost. The expense of flying a helicopter is not cheap!!!! These are the people AMERICA NEEDS!!!! NOT THE PEOPLE WHO DO SOMETHING JUST FOR POWER AND RECOGNITION!!!!! Do it because you value human lives!!!
@@gp3918 Incorrect, the pilot is a Private Citizen, and a Deputy Fire Chief in this has No Authority to Arrest Anyone.
Her husband has a right to be upset, This man is helping in the rescue, why would you stop him,theres no excuses for this period,
A brief search of emergency flight restrictions in the lake lure nc area reveals no such flight restrictions exist at this time pertaining to private rescue efforts as of 7:42am on 10/1/2024. I'm quite sure that this fire chief has overstepped the scope of his authority and as such should be removed from operational control of the area pending an investigation. Should his orders or actions directly or indirectly cause harm to those needing emergency services before this removal he should be held criminally and civilly liable for that harm.
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Well the problem is if a fire chief or a judge tells the cops to arrest you they will even if they're not even sure a crime has been committed at all
Amen!🙏
@@ssgemactv So you can be arrested on no charge?
Such BS. You know to never rely on the government for your own personal safety and rescue, but when they start standing in the way of brave men and women like this to thwart their efforts, they’ve taken it to a whole new level.
Chris Melton was identified as the assistant fire chief of Lake Lure as the official who confronted and threatened to arrest Jordan Seidhom during his rescue operations.
How ridiculous to let one’s pride get in the way of help in a disaster. ..What else could it be? This is a humanitarian disaster: All hands on deck and all help should be welcome. - People are dying?? Well done that man and his son for taking the initiative.
"Stop helping people! That's our job and you're making us look bad." - Government
That fire chief gets fired IMMEDIATELY!!! All his pension, insurance, whatever is stripped immediately.
“Besides, we (the Government) must coordinate based on EQUITY !! We must save and help all non-white people FIRST !!”
@@ElenaAshe
Letting everyone see the pillowcase hat you wear. Karen Kkkomentators loud and clear... and wrong.
that had nothing to do with the government. That had to do with an ignorant man protecting his power with his arrogant pride. Men who prefer power over empathy are dangerous.
@@mortalclown3812 Neah, that's just your awesome govt. at work. More govt. handouts and more frivelous taxpayer money spent, if they look overwhelmed. Why not let the citizens and volunteers help if they have the means?? I think you're wrong clown!!
100%!
Always remember after a disaster, government agencies always take a while to get to areas in wide spread situations like these. Good samaritans and their resources are always gonna be around first so let them help. That fire chief was just mad he wasn't there first so he can look like the hero with his big panties.
Help. DO hatever you can. As soon as the sun as up I heard chainsaws, tractors...all the "first responders" around here were farmers. They were up and in it before the power trucks got here. They managed to clear some roads, and fallen power lines before the trucks showed up to facilitate their repair. People moved debris from roads. As soon as the internet as back up, requests for help started coming out. Locally, we started hitting all of those possible. fuel, formula, medicine, water. This is rural VA, and we were not "technically" HIT but the edges of that monster storm got us pretty good. I've seen a dozen hurricaines in my life, this as the wIDEST, and most fierce. we'll be okay; my heart goes out to those trapped. Nobody here waited a SECOND for the police to "control" the situation; they just headed out to help. Somebody duct tape that crazy fire marshell, and KEEP going in to get survivors!!!!!!
Either that or higher up told him to cause more deaths, after all the government wants you depopulated.
At heart, he is NOT a good person and is fully ego driven. If he was doing his job to help people, he would welcome additional help. I don't know the guy, but this is my opinion from observing how he (and many other government gangsters) operate.
Bingo
Big boy panties lol
I was a first responder for 16 years. The fire chief or assistant chiefs decision to chase help away makes no logical sense. Unless he wanted all the glory for himself and his department. Sadly many departments when logging their response calls they do so with the purpose of sending out fund rising letters later. This particular fire officer should be investigated as to why he denied assistance. I was a line officer for 12 of the 16 years and I would have begged for qualified assistance and given the man an award afterwards.
I suspect FeMa or some other "big brother" department is telling local municipalities to stand down and obey orders. We saw how that worked out on Uvalde, Texas.
@@frankieoutside1523 And Lahaina on Maui,. FEMA's mandate seems to be to spend money and help no one.
No disrespect to you, but the victim is always the first responder. You are always the primary individual responsible for your own protection, safety, or rescue.
Someone located nearby is the second responder. If there is a violent confrontation, then the police are at best the 3rd responder. If there is a violent confrontation, then EMS/Fire follow after the police come in so they are the 4th responder.
While I thank you for dedicating your life in service of others, this shows what can and invariable does happen when you rely on the Government to save your bacon.
Yeah, it's one thing if somebody without any training shows up. But a guy with LEO training AND a helicopter? Seems like a really bad call.
It’s Western North Carolina law enforcement, pretty specifically and I’m sick of it.
wow prayers love and hugs for that man and all the people there and the helpers
Imagine if we needed permission for every good deed.
@noesse4736, Yep! People would die!! Those are some vile human beings just like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!!
Oh no, we can’t have people going around cleaning up parks or doing good deeds. Why, that’d be illegal. We can’t have the world becoming a better place now should we.
Feeding homeless is becoming illegal everywhere.
In communist nations you do
@@TragicideManagement at my apartment complex said
"it's not your responsibility to make things look nice".
Picking up trash and cigarette butts that people throw in the ground.
People just sit and look at the trash rather than pick it up!
Thank you to this Pilot and his co pilot son. Absolutely disgraceful that someone would hinder him from rescuing people.
It is EVIL and unforgivable!
When good is called evil & evil is called good . . .
Dustin Waycaster - Fire Chief, Chris Melton - Asst. Fire Chief NEED to resign or be removed !!!
Former President Richard Nixon once talked about the hazards of giving big jobs to small minded people.
So you're talking about most government workers?
He also got rid of the dollar being backed by gold and silver. Boy, was that stupid.
@@xxxytheguy1296 um. So you WANT small minded people in position of authority? Good to know.
Very well said
That’s all of America in 2024
Anyone WAKING UP YET?
I seen em today across mt. Range 20 mins by air w mining enginers i have a short of it locals need to kno
No. Americans will be right back to more sports worship and a new Starbucks flavor by next week.
Sounds like a fire chief loves power!
This is despicable on the fire chief …..pride before people….!!!
Me: "Good luck with that, Chief. I'm former Air Force Special Operations and I don't leave victims behind. If you want to have me arrested for being a good samaritan then I will be happy to embarrass TF out of you in court and to the media. Now get out of my way and out of my LZ."
Amen brother.
Thank you for standing up to the bully.
919th SOS guy here, and yep. You'd have to take my lifeless body off that mountain. No F's given.
FACT
Sadly, with 29 years experience with ICS ( Incident Command System ), absolutely well meaning efforts just add to the cluster**k that is the initial response period . I've never seen a private individual jump in when what Incident Command & On-Scene Commander are trying to do is coordinate hundreds of multi-agency flights, equipment, supplies, and efforts to rescue the maximum number of people. There should be, if there isn't, a way to utilize all potential assets though.
Massive Respect For The Father Turning Back To Rescue His Son
Sounds like the fire chief needs to be the one in jail.
That's ridiculous! He's helping people! What's wrong with people! So wrong!!
I pray that people's eyes will be opened, ears to hear, of what time we are living in
Fire chief is behaving like the cops in Maui!
He needs to be removed pronto.
By any means.
Maybe they’re working for the same devil?
How FUCKING EVIL!!!
Under orders from John Pelletier, former incident commander in Las Vegas after the old guy got hundreds of pounds of ammo and weapons into a secure hotel with bullet proof glass windows to shoot out multidirectional and multicaliber cover up.
Wow!!! People can’t even help without threat of arrest!! Some bullshit
Dont forget who the actual aggressor is when arrest is threatened.
THEY need them to subjugate the rest of us. The man in this video is an example that heros always make themselves apparent and dont wear badges.
Just as bad as the people slashing tires of relief trucks at truck stops along the interstate just outside the disaster zone.
@@SaveThisRepublic are we sure that wasnt the ast. Fire chief and his two badged thugs making sure all those people dont interfere with HIS operation?
That's called tyranny
@@SaveThisRepublicThe what now? Haven't heard any reports of that happening.
I think you and your son are absolute heroes and you should be recognized as such may God bless you for your efforts God bless your soul ❤️🙏🙏🙏
God Bless this man
What is happening to our country? This is terrible 😢
Democrats
@@dcfl2147 Dem🐀
@@debrah6532 🫏👈
Oh please. You can't just start flying helicopters wherever you want.
@@dcfl2147 Wrong, your partisanship is showing.
Some folks can't handle the power trip. Public service is full of arrogance.
Climbed the ladder of narccissism - trippin
Don't cover everyone in public service with a statement of ignorance. VOLUNTEER Fire/EMS covers over 90% of the people in the US.
Sadly and unfortunately!!!!
That's a shame. This country is in trouble