This man did the UNTHINKABLE to another passenger | Lost Episode 7
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2021
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To think this man is out there somewhere living what I’d assume to be a completely normal life is absolutely insane. Meanwhile, people are sitting in fed penn for weed charges. Just wow..
Good ol America
Land of the free 😄
@@cameronstanley2533 emphasis on “free” lol
@@none5222 that's why no one had a gun
@@none5222 that's not all Canadians my dude.
This goes to show that not only women get low sentences but also crazy men
Did he really just say “I heard voices, Tim was an alien” and the justice system said “understandable have a nice day” wth
They go really hard on illegal aliens in Canada , unlike America .....
If Someone just suspects You are an illegal alien and cuts Your head off .....
They are given 60 days of counseling and released , similar to this case ....
Liberalism works , except for two minor rapes , Vince has not had any more "alien" encounters !!
@@stevenattanasso2003 What in the fk are you talking about? Alien is meant as an Extra Terrestrial in this case. You dork.
WTF!
@@tarantulamadness6191 Getting bit by a tarantula has made You mad .....
These stories are horrifying. I want become a master of karate. Perhaps a champion of the 🌞
RIP Tim. I'm so sorry that you were not given real justice. My sympathies to Tim's family & loved ones. My heart aches for you all.
I remember this story. I live in Canada. I think our justice system needs to be less leinnet. We were all mad about the out come of this terrible act of violence. We were also in disbelief that this man got away with it.
That guy had the spirit of a Wendigo in him
Sorry to ay this but your country's so called justice system failed BIG TIME. 😢
I don't know anything about the justice system in Canada, but while no one can tell with more details, the story sounds like some crazy psychotic episode. People during a psychotic episode have really crazy beliefs and don't realize what they are doing. Once the psychotic episode is over, they might realise what happened and be just as horrified as everyone else. It's possible to have only one psychotic episode in a lifetime and then be completely normal, but another one can occur at any time. I heard a true story from a forensic psychiatrist that someone daughter was babysitting her baby sister and she had a psychotic episode and ki*led the baby believeing it's going to resurrect. She was later treated in a psychiatric unit and I think she pleaded not guilty due to insanity. I assume it was similar in this person's case and while it's bad if dangerous people are released, you'd also not want your dad suffering with dementia charged with something horrible becuse it's not him but an illness that did the crime.
@@matejblaha4659
True but they are still a potential threat to the people around them.
I feel so bad for Tim and his loved ones. I can't imagine falling asleep on a bus and waking up to someone stabbing you. That's so messed up
You need to ride a bus and you won't have to imagine. At least one person on every bus looks like a lunatic or is doing something weird. I sat across from a guy who was sucking his thumb and making yumm yumm noises.
Yeah I am one of those people that doesn't fall asleep or stirred his phone while I'm in a public place because my head is constantly on a swivel, and that's because I do believe most people are good but there are crazy people out there.
Note to self dont fall asleep on a public bus.
@@georgeedward602 nah trains and subways are MAAAADDD weird !!
A criminally insane cannibal was cured by a "treatment program" and let go?! Wow, a miracle of science! I don't know if I'm supposed to laugh or cry
My thoughts in a nutshell. If this occurred in my home country, the offender would have been remanded indefinitely to a secure mental health facility. It would be very unlikely that he/she would ever experience freedom again.
@@shaunely63 He was held for 8 years. I'm not sure why Mr.Ballen didn't mention that.
That's Canada....
@@sb2261 and people say we are the greatest country on earth
@@josiahclarke3535 No that would be Finland.... So they say.
Before I got married, I read an article that suggested saving the newspaper on your wedding day, so you can look back on the news say, 10 or 20 years later. This be-heading on a bus was the front page story! 😳
Blessings to the families of all involved. I hope you can find peace.
Rest peacefully, Tim. I'm so sorry justice failed you and your family. 🕊️🙏❤️
I'm from the Winnipeg area and remember hearing about this when it first happened. Vince Lee is a free man, and is even trusted to regulate his own medication. If mental illness makes a person commit murder & cannibalize, they should never be in charge of regulating their own medication. I'm scared knowing this guy walks free in the city under a new name deciding whether he takes his meds or not..
Same here
It's not right. That monster will get his!
Yeah I'm from Alberta and I remember that! Cannot believe he is free to walk around. And so is Karla Hamalka
Dont forget he took one person's life but how many innocent peoples lives did he ruin. Those people on the bus must have had some severe PTSD and they will have to live with that image until they die. Yet he can go about his merry business with no punishment
I don't think he should be left alive. If a pill is the only thing stopping him from murdering innocent people, I don't think his life is worth enough to risk keeping him around.
This truly is insane that he was let go, allowed to change his name and is now walking around free. Who made these decisions? They should also undergo evaluation and treatment! RIP Tim.
This is the liberal Justice system in Canada. Murder, rape, pedophilia are not big deal, just don't be "racist" and you're good
@@Spe3D3m0n time to move to canada
@Hunty Biden Guangzhou Why make EVERYTHING political? A lot of us are not party loyal and would rather discuss and vote on the issues. Grow up, "Hunty", and come back when you're ready to discuss the issues like a cooperative adult.
Seriously. I know a guy I went to high school with doing 5yrs in state prison because he has non violent drug charges. This guy decapitated a guy and ate some and he's just out and about
Check out the case of Mary Bell!
I was at the carnival the same year this happened. I remeber hearing of it shortly after and the thought of me seeing tim and playing one of the games he was running or riding one of the rides he was operating a few days before his death sent shivers down my spine. Rest in peace tim
Famous Canadian story. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia, received treatment over several years and is now on stabilizing medication that he must confirm via blood test that he's taking.
He cuts a guys head off and has no supervision. He's let go by the courts. How is this possible?
Could it be that the Canadian court system is actually worse than U.S. court system.
Short answer yes, long answer i don't know. But ill take a guess that the U.S. has probably never released a man with no time done for CUTTING off a man's head.
That’s Canada justice for you.
Canaduh bro. Believe me I hate our justice system.
We’re so polite we say sorry to the criminals when we lock them up. SMH
I feel physically ill at the thought that the guy is wandering free. Just incredible. Unbelievable.
Makes u wonder what people of winnipeg and selkirk feel about him
Canadian no justice system....we suck
just wait until he gets the munches . should have never been released . who cares if he is well now SOB
U shoud get medical help
he takes his medications now
This case deserves the #1 prize for demonstrating what a joke the Canadian justice system is when it comes to violent crime.
Thank you Mr Ballen for delivering us strange, dark and mysterious stories in story format!
I guess I'm living in crazy town where a person can stab, decapitate and eat their victim, then receive therapy, be set free and change their name to put this incident in their past. No amount of therapy is going to help put this in the past for the people on the bus who witnessed this nor the victims family and friends.
Or me! 😬
@@joysanders59
HaHa 😂🤣
How can this shit happen it’s crazy
Dude i live in the city where this guy is from lol. There was a massive uproar when he got let out. This guy could be walking around my neighborhood looking for his next victim as i type this. Gotta love the good ol canadian justice system
Welcome to the age of Liberalism. Full of professional victims racing to see who can be the most oppressed meanwhile behind their curtain evil runs rampant!
I remember this case and thought he was in prison with no chance of parole. I had no idea that not only is he free, he's been protected with a new identity as if he's the victim.
He was insane and didn't know at all what he was doing , you can't charge and punish a person like that as a regular murderer as he was sick. I don't understand though why he isn't supervised rest of his life, okay I'm no expert in psychiatry but can they really be sure that he's completely healed and wont be a risk anymore, strange.
@@teijaflink2226 What you can do is hold them in psych for the rest of his life under intense supervision and never allow his release to the public. That is by far the most current humane thing we can do. Do you want this individual walking freely around your loved ones in public??
Even though I agree this person should not be allowed to walk free, he was clearly in the middle of a schizophrenic episode. This man _was_ a victim. He also was a perpetrator and the person responsible for an heinous and unforgivable crime against an innocent man. Thus, he should not be able to leave whatever "program" he was enrolled in. Still. I doubt he was sound of mind. I'd risk it and say that he was as much of a product of circumstance as poor Vincent. May he rest in peace.
your society is sick, insanity is more reason to move the criminal into the afterlife.
@@teijaflink2226 if he does something like this again, I suspect he will be killed by any witnesses before the RCMP show up.
Our nation wasn't impressed by this or the ruling handed down. I saw this guy cut Tim's head off with a large hunting type knife...this was premeditated. Li was out of control but seemed to be lucid enough to proudly display his new "trophy" as he darted around inside the bus screaming (almost roaring), stabbing at Tim's body and cutting out organs (which Li also proudly paraded around). Li chose not to take his meds...that was his decision. Li was responsible and should have started a long sentence after his few years in a psyche hospital.
This story still gives me the chills even after all these years. That poor guy and his family 💔💔💔💔
Horrific as this story is, I have to thank you, Mr Ballen, for your consistent supply of these unbelievable stories.
I hope you never run out of material, though I have to say, that happy endings are heartwarming. Tim's story is heart wrenching........
This is so totally wrong. How on earth could he be free? Even if he was mentally unstable, it is more reason to keep him locked away 😞😞
Canada
@@Pit_Lord no there's state in the us that would do this.
Canadian laws are very liberal, progressive, and open minded.
@@fiddleback1568 Yeah except the last one... Liberals and progressives are the most closed mined people , and exactly that is why its a far more dangerous place to live... Just look at the last mass shooting in Canada, people didn't have a gun to defend themselves and police where unable to defend them people.
@@ah64dbeast37 You need to look at it from another perspective. A minority man received help he needed where the system failed before. And now he is a productive member of society. Clearly his actions were a cry for help. Had the system not failed this minority to begin with, the situation would not have been so tragic.
The guy was released? What the heck? That's outrageous! 😠 My heart goes out to the poor man's family! 😢😢😢
Definetely missing details there..maybe he was hypnotized, saw his trigger and flipped..Smells like coverup and payout to family, under the rug..who knows..
4:24, syrup bottle. Love your videos man! Look forward to them frequently.
I remember this very clearly. My dad is a retired Greyhound Canada driver (retired 2007), and my brother (left the company in 2015) and brother -in-law both drove for Greyhound Canada as well. My brother-in-law, who worked with Greyhound until the pandemic started, brought up this incident just last month (April 2022). He said that, as of the start of the pandemic, the driver of the bus has still yet to return to work after this attack, and I personally don't think he ever will. I hope that the driver and other passengers who witness this horrific event find peace. I cannot imagine the horror they saw that night. RIP Tim
I remember when this happened. Still cant get my head around the fact he is walking free. He'd be held indefinitely in a psychiatric unit in the UK.
Might not be found criminally responsible, but there would be some sort of punishment.
In the US he'd be on death row or life sentence depends on the state
@@jaybiddy955 some states he'd probably be in a psych ward or solitary confinement in a prison
A lot of people misunderstand that law enforcement is not supposed to be about emotionally or physically punishing the offender, it's about ensuring the public is safe.
Vince should have been detained and taken into custody, indefinitely. But, 'cause the justice system is bullshit, he wasn't.
>He'd be held indefinitely in a psychiatric unit in the UK.
So the UK would be committing a human rights violation by unlawfully detaining a sane man in a psychiatric unit?
Canada won’t give me the right to defend myself. Someone could break into my home and try to kill me, but if I kill them I’m unstable and need to be locked away? Our laws here are such bs it makes me hate my country a little bit. Run by idiots and criminals alike.
The cops didn’t even stop him from eating and cutting him up even more, Vince was on the bus cutting him up and eating him while the cops just watched. I feel so bad for his family. Vince should of been locked up for good.
And the rcmp brass that ordered the guys that were there to just watch.
I feel sorry for Tim's family. How horrible that must be.
Are the police different in your city? I mean U.S. cops aren’t Canada incompetent, but it’s close
Should've*
Canada is dumb!
Some barking mad people around. Scary! Thank you Mr Ballen.
Modern day storyteller, Navy SEAL and big fan of flannel. Love your work sir.
My grandpa passed away this morning. He loved your videos. I'm dedicating this one to him. Its ironic. We live in Winnipeg. Much love.
RIP & God bless your family. :'
@@slimothyjames4577 thank you
RIP
@@Cyphon thank you
@@brennanstubbs1942 np
RIP Tim, tragic and unsettling.
Outrageous that Vince is out and free now..
sad thing is it could be you, me, oranyone we dont know what his name is now.....lol
His name is Will Baker, if you google it you’d find it.
There's more to the story
@@Rogersgirl11 not really, it’s not that uncommon for people to only serve a few years for serious crimes despite what TV shows show
He has done nothing since, and had done nothing before the killing. He pretty clearly had some sort of mental breakdown and got the help he needed.
I was on that same bus route exactly 1 week before it happened. The paramedics and police that worked this scene had a whole lot of mental health issues...a few had PTSD. So so sad...
4:23 little bottle of maple syrup pops up when he said he was "sorry"
lmao that had me dying
I remember this like it was yesterday. I'm in Alberta. Makes me mad that these people that have mental breakdowns are released because they are now fine. If they're now fine then let's put him jail for murder.
Him being fine now doesn't mean he wasn't having a schizophrenic episode when he committed the crime, so charging him for murder now makes no sense. Although I do agree he shouldn't be free with no restrictions
@@oliverfrots9300 Do you know how many schizophrenics take their meds? Hardly any. That's who you see homeless muttering or talking out loud to themselves. Can't tell you how many stories I have heard and read about people's loved ones who went schizophrenic, stopped taking their meds, and left home. They are either never seen again or they are seen but refuse to come off the street and take their medicine. It's just a matter of time before they do it again.
@@kathleenkalman4796 I'm sure that's a thing but I think you're making some pretty extreme generalisations off some anecdotal stories you have
It's almost like they want real psychopaths running around attacking people- this guy's punishment was basically an incentive to other psychos to do whatever they please.
Yrs, I totally agree. I'm also from Alberta and I say give 'im exactly what he deserves according to the law of the land: the same gruesome evil way he took the young man's life his should be taken likewise.
The witness being questioned looks seriously in shock, his eyes... Possibly not the most ethical choice from the reporter to question this guy straight away like that
He didn't show it in this clip, but the reporter actually asks the guy "have you ever seen something like this before"...
Like uhhhh no dude, I've never seen someone savagely beheaded & cannibalized on a bus lol
He is just candian. We are hardcore lol
@@ghoststardancer5030 This was like 20 years ago. You sound mentally ill, you should seek some help.
He committed suicide. So did another witness.
@@timgreen2426 truly? How did you find that out? This is so sad
There's a few stories I've seen now where I know the ending but I usually always learn something new. Mrballen always does his research and tells a great story.
Your videos are awesome man, i want to thank you and your brothers for your service i thank each of one of you man thank you for your service to all of us and our great country
Maple syrup sighted at 4:24🤯🤯🤯
Man this is a momentous occasion as I always get waaay too sucked into the story to EVER notice these!
A lot of the times I don't see it because I believe it has alot to do with the size of my screen. 🥺
Dude same! I saw it pop up and I think that's the first time I've ever seen the "secret" during my first time watching the video
You could explain my own day to me and I'd be facinated
What is "facinated" ??
Urban dictionary had nothing .....
@@stevenattanasso2003 Fascinating....tell me more.
@@QueenSloan Now I see ....
@@stevenattanasso2003 😉
@@QueenSloan lol
I shared a jail cell with this dude in alberta. I had no clue who i was in there with. He was very quiet, and intelligent. I asked what he was in there for, he told me he killed a man defending his family. I believed him, but that still made me feel a little uneasy.
FINALLY someone brought this story up.
Maple Syrup at @4:24
Tim was a wonderful young man with a full life ahead of him. Until he met a man with schizophrenia.
To this day his family and friends are heartbroken.
Do you know Tim and the family?
That’s not maple syrup it’s Aunt jemima syrup and it’s delicious yum
@@deewaldron7581 It's a pretend version of the real thing.
I am so sad with this story, being crazy doesnt make you acquitted by a horrible crime. So sorry for the good guy Tim, he was a excited father to be at that time.
Voices some people can hear in their mind can threaten the person so much that the whole thing feel as real as it would be with an another person. Some people with schizophrenia have said that they didn't wanna commit a crime but they felt their life were on the line because of these voices, and they spoke of the voices as if they were people who actually threatened them. I usually believe the ones with schizophrenia that they didn't wanna commit a crime IF the voices have threatened them. If they have told the police what the voices said word by word.
I know that the person still need to do something for the crime they committed, just that they get a shorter time due to being threatened.
None of us will ever experience how real these voices feel unless we somehow develop schizophrenia. By that I mean people who are more likely to develop it.
Clearly it does
It's funny Mr. Ballen, when you start talking about Canadian crime scenes. I'm in Canada and I know all these stories and remember them. - I think this one scared everyone from riding on the bus for many years.
4:23 Aunt Jemima pancake syrup. I love your show! Especially, when you tell us what to do to the like button, very creative . And last but definitely not least, THANK YOU for you service .
Awww man I remember this one too!
Soooo messed up D:
That poor man.. was just sleeping on a bus.
Bogus asfk
@@juancarlosrodriguez6738 im curious whats bogus as fuck? this really did happen. they actually call it a Wendigo attack.
What happened to guy that was sleeping
@@juancarlosrodriguez6738 Did you even watch the video???
I watched the first episode and this new one and it is still bogus
A syrup bottle on the bottom at 4:25. Thank you Mr ballen for your badass videos that I've been non-stop watching.
Aw dang I was not first oh well 👍
I thought I was the first
The syrup bottle popping up during such a terrible situation made me laugh.
@4:25 the little syrup bottle pop's up 😆.. I really enjoy your channel I can watch it all day and night.. keep up the good work.... In today's society we can't trust nobody we got to be aware of our surroundings keep safe out there God bless .. Keep the Faith Brothers and Sisters
Tim Maclean was from my home town. I used to be nightclub security in one of the local establishments. I remember Him from a few weekends he was there. That feeling of the world being a little emptier when someone dies was no different upon hearing of his death.
I'm sorry, extremly tragic when you know of them.
I’ve seen so many threads about Tim McLean being such a nice guy. That’s the reason why Li sat next to him, he was the first and only to give him a smile.
@@a2020lhd Vince li is a monster, mental or not, he already had it in him to kill, but they way he did it ?
The alien bullshit is just that. Bullshit.
@@KimberlyBishh I killed plenty aliens that way
Wow........this guy is now free......who knows when he’ll snap again.
Thanks Mr.Ballen 👍🏻🇨🇦
Such a great point though
He will snap when he gets off his meds. We also suck at keeping tabs on people we release with conditions.
Maple syrup at 4:23
Also, this story is freaking brutal. Unbelievable how a person could do such an act and then be allowed to be released to the public.
To my surprise there was no pinned comment on this vid. And newer videos drop the secret cameos altogether. Wonder what the story is...
“Ugh this is that horrible story with the be headings isn’t it?” Was the first thing that came to my mind. I think that might be an indication of how much true crime I am watching these days😂
My daughter worked with this young man for two summers on the carnival circuit from Canada to the States.She attended his funeral in Winnipeg withothers that worked with him.Rest easy Tim.🍁🌹
No she didn't
@@raythemantaray_Corgi A million people live near where this happened....dont be ignorant
@@canadianbrit no she lies
@@raythemantaray_Corgi all right then. You probably don't even know where Winnipeg is😂😂 you keep living in your delusional world
@@canadianbrit I do know where it is
He was released, allowed to change his name, and has NO restrictions. Meaning this guy is allowed to vote. Welcome to Canada 🇨🇦
Damn Canada’s gotta step their game up
Australia is the same. Run by "bleeding hearts" and arrogant university educated half wits.
Lots of story’s about Canada being very soft on crime. Doesn’t seem like a very safe country when murderers are let go.
@@mylesgray3470 It's not. We have no "rights", we have permissions. Even our charter says at the very beginning that so long as it's done "Democratically" (so long as the politicians vote on it) any of the rights and freedoms that the charter lists can be removed from anyone for any reason.
@@Thescott16 These "Legacy" Countries like Canada, Australia, America, UK, etc. are no longer the Best Places To Live in any more in my opinion. Anyone with common sense who believes in good vs evil can see the writing on the wall. No place on earth is perfect but I am seeing that some of the Eastern European countries who remember what it was like under tyrannical rule have become more attractive. I plan to "Go Where I'm Treated Best".
At least MrBallen provided us with a photo of the guy. Imagine being around this guy and not even knowing he might think you are an alien
That feeling when you see a story you know really well already on the Mr Ballen channel but want to watch anyway to see how he's going to tell it.
One of the first responders to this crime committed suicide. So tragic. 💔
Omg! That's horrible! It seems everything about this story is tragic....
How do you know this?
@@Kayloxk it made national news at the time . You can Google it to fact check.
@@Kayloxk it's a documented fact. Go read up on the storey all Canadians know this. Also all Canadians were pissed that this psycho was released back to society Canadian courts have clowns as judges
@@staciacarney8085 truly sad. Thanks for the info!!
Guy: Literally Decapitates some random dude for no good reason and eats parts of him in front of 30ish people
Law: This is fine
Other guy: Crosses street at the wrong time
Law: Now this is an Avengers level threat
This is what the degenerate left causes. Every one who is wrong is the victim and must be made the normal, whereas anything normal must be made abnormal to protect the victim.
@@reese4171 Politics drive the stupid law system.
@@sakuracardcaptor4709 yes but it's in no way a left wing problem...
Yeah, cops shoot an unarmed guy 7 times in the back for nothing and this Jeffrey Dahmer wannabe is allowed to eat and stab a man to death then get no time or supervision, even allowed to sink into obscurity.
@Hindadubfing Official This is not a left issue. We don't know anything about the laws where this happened or who's responsible for them. You have zero context but are blaming the left ignorantly. How about we talk about gun control and how the right pushes archaic individual gun rights while there are daily mass shootings?!
This was very disturbing. I used to take a NYC subway and bus and fell asleep many times. My biggest fear was waking up and everyone was gone
Omggg!!! This is the first time I ever saw the secret in an episode 😭 couldn’t even believe it at first lol because I’m always too captivated by your storytelling to notice
I lived close to Selkirk where Vince was held in the mental hospital. It was unsettling when they let him out for unsupervised day trips. I also had the pleasure of meeting Tim's mother. One of the nicest, strongest, most resilient women I've ever met ❤
She had to be strong to cope with that. Too bad it was tested in that way.
Lori McFarlane, I'm so glad you mentioned the mother of this..."attacker." I often wonder what these parents are like.
God bless you!
@@vickys2036 She was referring to the mother of the victim.
@@XCM666 thank you for clarifying this! I was so caught up in the shock of the story, I got the names confused. Yet I still wonder what hard-core murderers moms are like.
I can't even imagine Tim's poor mama! I honestly feel like an act (like this) against my son would kill me! Bless this whole family!
God bless you!!!
@@vickys2036 actually he was referring to the Greyhound bus drivers mom.
I remember when this happened. I'm sitting here stunned. That guy is released?
WTF is going on in this world?
great story love your content im so glad I stumbled upon your channels because I don't like social media....
@ 4:24 - little syrup bottle 🤣
Why is the strange dark and mysterious so addicting
Because most people are shocked that things like this really happen. We think of these type of things as movie plots, not real life.
I think that also why r we the way we r
Because it's written in story format.
I was a young naive adult when this occured. I remember reading the news and being stunned and horrified that something this bizarre, freaky & scary could even happen. Not to be dramatic, but it took a bit of my innocence away. It showed me the horrors of the "real world" and left its mark on me.
(sorry for it being really long, I just get surprised at how many people can still be naive even as adults, if you read this you will understand why I think like that)
This didn't surprise me that much, except the fact that he held up the head and later the body to show the others what he did.
In a way, I'm kinda envious how you managed to stay naive until adulthood. Not to sound like I'm assuming you to be it, but do you happen to be neurotypical? (someone with the typical conditon, or as many people call it, "normal")
I'm autistic, and with my curiosity and my search for the truth in most cases, I had already heard about different horrible stuff when I was 10. Back then I hoped I wouldn't get raped or, like the girl I read about in the newspaper when I was 10, playing in a pool that they later found out was filled with sperm, since that girl, who were only 11 year old at the time (and apparently had her first period sometime before that) got pregnant. She and her mom was just on a vacation to a place in Spain when that happened...
Another thing with that assumption I made.. with the exclusion of people who have been surrounded with wars and other traumatic events, most if not almost everyone who have different conditions, or have disabilities or disorders tend to face the real world at an earlier age. And not having many peers believe what we say about said real world (unless someone managed to miraculously find rather understanding and rational friends), and not being taken seriously just because we act, feel and think differently, it really hurts.
I learned that I HAD to wait for peers (meaning both the "normal" ones and many of my fellow autistic ones) to grow up in order for them to fully understand the hardships we have to go through, because the "normal" thing to be as a child and teen is to be irrational and later on dismissive (not all cases, but it feels like almost everyone in our cases).
To have so many things to take for granted like that, and usually not having to be worried about whether or not people will dismiss you for things you can't help and being forced to accept that people WILL be scared of us because it's a part of their perception of the unknown.. I do know the majority of people have their own problems, but it feels like their problems are more socially acceptable, which is why I cannot help but feel frustrated over.
We (who are capable of doing it atleast) are forced to accept that most "normal" peers will dismiss us up to atleast a certain age, if not even as they become young adults, while everyone (or atleast most) who are neurotypical, have to worry less about being reprimanded for not treating us others well, because it's apparently acceptable due to age and maturity.
Since I have seen a lot of kids being understanding, even if it's just in simpler terms, I can sometimes not see age as an excuse, unless the kid is not at school age yet. But I'm autistic and we tend to think logically at an early age, so that might just be my autistic side speaking.
I hope you don't take this whole thing personally though, since from what I gathered by your comment, you seem to be rather sweet. (hope it doesn't sound creepy, because that wasn't my intention). People who are sweet are not among people whose actions make me and others feel really frustrated.
Don't let everything horrible out in the real world taint you too much, as that would be just yet another loss for our world.
This isn’t the real world at all. It’s just the version of the world people see most of because we’re sick enough to find it entertaining, therefore this kind of news is in high demand. How many people on Earth ever have to witness this kind of stuff?
@@Legoboy55able It's a part of reality though, but not the whole picture of it. It's weirdly intriguing, but not in a way that makes me wanna do similar stuff. Human behavior is both fascinating and really annoying and you can learn a lot from things like this.
you know whats crazy? the same thing happened to me. i remember this story very well and i actually havent even watched mr ballens video yet because it affected me so much. For years i couldnt get on a greyhound or any type of bus and i feared falling asleep on transit. i remember watching the news explaining how the victims mother found out by watching the news herself.
Another thing Mr. Ballen has made me afraid of. No traveling by bus or train for me
Yup, I remember this one. As much as I travelled by Greyhound back in the day, I'm fortunate to have never seen anything crazy in my travels x
One of the first officers on the scene, Ken Barker, later took his own life. He had struggled with severe PTSD for years after the incident.
Really? I was just commenting on how many of the passengers lives must be ruined after witnessing that. I guess he took more than one life then smh
@charina enchente I agree with you but when you witness something so evil and so horrific, I believe you become stunned and paralysed with fear. I'm no expert but that's what I think happened to the witnesses. Also a number of officers killed themselves or have never been the same since. My friends husband was one of them. He actually left the police force due to this incident.
@charina enchente Okay but he stabbed a knife into the guys neck before anyone even knew what was happening. The first blow was more than likely going to be fatal. If none of them where armed what were they really going to do?
@charina enchente I'm sorry you had to go through that. And you're right in feeling contempt.It is suitable in these situations.
@@dameforchrist7949 if you don't mind my asking, why did he leave the police force? I can guess why but I thought it might be better to ask for clarification then to make an assumption.
So sad. I for one don’t think the “criminally insane” should avoid prosecution.
Thank you. Dangerous is dangerous, sane or crazy. Judicial system is trash.
Your eyes are beautiful so are you
Hopefully its worse where they send them. Prison but with even less rights and everyone's guaranteed crazy
@@Gaybraham.Lincoln, He’s FREE...
@@candiedwards974 4uck
Maple syrup at the 4:23 mark... I found you from tiktok and loved your content over there until 1 day you disappeared from my fyp... now I'm enjoying your content and longer stories over here✌🤘🤙🧡
Loved your story telling, hated consequence
Maple Syrup bottle at 4:23. I can't imagine how horrifying that would be. And the poor young father to be so brutally killed after exhausting himself working to provide for his family.
Syrup makes cannibalism tastier
I never have been good at these. Good eye!
Shouldnt you be pinned?!
@@floydlooney6837 chocolate syrup could be ok maybe too
Where??
I remember this case. I don't know how this guy is free and greyhound hardly gave the other passengers any compensation and a lot of them suffer from PTSD. My heart goes out to Tim's family and everyone that witnessed this horrific crime.
Why would greyhound owe them money? They weren't responsible. A company doesnt owe money bc a customer does something awful. They didn't know it would happen
Why would Greyhound have to give compensation? Because they have money? How were they at fault? A guy who bought a ticket murdered someone-- it's the FUCKING BUS-- that happens.
It’s part of the charm of riding the bus.
My exboyfriend was on this bus, and, it truly messed him up. He had nightmares, couldn't work, it was really bad!
Honestly, I don’t see how this is greyhounds problem or responsibility… What are they supposed to do? Give a psych evaluation to every passenger?
I remember this story! I can't believe I forgot it! I was working at a Bible camp in the south of MB when my friends back in Brandon told me about it... I can't believe this guy is free without meds or paroled... should be charged with murder on insanity and placed in psych ward.
I see maple syrup on the bottom left at 4:24. Love the videos man.
I listen to this dude EVERY morning getting ready for work. I’m hooked.
He lives in Canada they let him change his name to leave this in the “past”. Guy should be locked up!!!
His new name is Will Baker.
@@HolyEyeWasHere I read that it was Will Baker. Everyone else who reads this just look it up 🤣
@@sapphire3735 oh you're right. It is Will Baker!
When will the justice system begin to prosecute the crime and not the motivation for committing the crime?
Aunt Jemima syrup 4:25 love your videos and glad to see I saw it 🤝
My daughter actually put me on to your videos. We live in Weymouth, as I actually posted on another one of your videos, but neither of us were aware of where you are from until recently. In any event, your videos have become kinda like our little thing between the two of us and I love it. So I just wanted to say thanks man. For both the great storytelling and the time my daughter and I have shared as a result of them.
I too have recently discovered the Great Mr.Ballen and he is so amazing that you just feel you need to share it with loved ones. So I shared him with my husband and my sister n law and my cousin... My Whole Family is Addicted to this Amazing Story Teller. Lolololol 😂 Hes just NOT allowed to go camping with us!!
I remember hearing about this, pretty messed up he just gets released back into the public. Probably bought a house for him and everything. A justice system that rewards murderers, can't imagine how the family feels :(
To make a horrific incident even worse, I saw a follow up regarding this attack on another channel, and one of the first responders- a police officer, I believe- was actually so traumatized by what he saw (the aftermath of the attack, namely Tim’s body) that he killed himself a few years later.
The fact that people like that exist is just terrifying
I remember this very well as I had been traveling by bus on an adjacent route that exact same night. I was in shock getting off at my stop, sitting at the coffee shop, waiting to transfer to the next bus and seeing this story on the news. I can't even imagine the trauma that everyone went through in this situation.
I can't imagine that trauma either. Even you in a coffee shop it must have been unsettling.
If I did this and returned to a normal frame of mind there is NO way I would want to be on the street. I would be terrified that I would hurt someone else, I would want to be in a residential institute or some shit. I don’t understand how he could be on the streets.
It's like that little weirdo Japanese psycho cannibal guy that got convicted of murdering and eating a lady in France and he was deported back to Japan only to be set free because of a "technicality" and he has said that he wants to do it again before he dies. Oxygen thieves for sure.
@@werebilbyj4449 i literally just watched this and i can't stop thinking about it. That picture of him just creeps me out so bad, pretty sure i saw it on coffeehouse crimes
@@werebilbyj4449 Japanese people are prejudiced towards foreigners. The fact that he did it to a Dutch girl doesn't concern them. If it were a fellow Japanese I guarantee you he'd be rotting in a cell where he belongs.
I feel the same way. I would probably be so wrapped up in guilt, that I would take my own life!
This is so tragic and traumatic. I feel for Tim and his loved ones.
Why is be released in public if there’s another chance to hurt another?
He should not have been set free. Especially with no possible way to tell if he had a violent or criminal past. Sickening.
My cousin was really good friends with Tim. He is missed dearly every day.
I’m so sorry for the loss of Tim’s friends and loved ones.
I think about that kid often and I didn't even know him.
As a Canadian, I am appalled.
If this guy is not a threat to the public and he was released from an insane asylum... he should have been sent directly to prison. Not given a new identity under some sort of program.
I'm sorry for your loss! May his soul rest in eternity!🙏
So saddened to hear.
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MrBallen, keep a sequel ready for this guy, I have a feeling he's going to provide you future content.
Most likely true but what a horrible thought.
That's dark.
@@adolphhitler2804 Your name is darker 😂
4:25 was that a bottle of syrup . I remember that story . MR.BALLEN Your story telling has gotten into my head . Recently went through a ptsd situation, verbal assault from a doctor having a bad year and the doc tried to block my exit from exam room . .... I stay calm while my mind races listening to you story tell SO I was able to stay calm at the doctor's office. She had no doubt , due to the volume of my voice to let me exit . She even tried to goad me into hitting her 🙄 I just kept walking called. the 1800 number to report her. .... abused by mother all my life , so weren't new. I have grown using 12 steps sponsor
How horrific poor Tim poor witnesses. I can’t believe Vince is free with no restrictions.
On another note that’s cool the bus has that security feature.
I remember this😢 and still I can’t get my head wrapped around what happened. As a Canadian, I’m throughly disgusted (makes me nauseous) that Vince was set free and now has a new life😡. He will always be a danger to society.
My heart breaks for Tim💔❤️. My deepest condolences to Tim’s family and friends.
I got $5 for deadpool.
He wasn't crazy. He had a huge knife on him already. I think he was wanting to kill someone. Alien story was a good cover up story. And it worked.
Agreed
Maybe you should do some research before shooting your mouth off.
@@leeneufeld4140 Perhaps we have done the research, hmmmm
@@lettymoore3714 He had long term undiagnosed schizophrenia, and was seriously delusional. He spent 8 years in a psychiatric institution, until the staff felt he had a strong enough support system, and was well established on his meds. Since then, he has stayed on his meds and led a quiet and retiring life. I fail to see how any of this would lead someone who has "done the research" to believe the killing was premeditated.
@@leeneufeld4140 you probably believe the girls that claimed they were trying to kill their "friend" for a slenderman sacrifice too!! 🙄
The guy sitting next to Tim, giving an interview also seems to be a fan of Mr Ballen and his stories. Quite a good story teller and animated hand movements.
4:24 Aunt Jemima bottom left.
Your my favorite RUclipsr!!! 💯
I remember when this happened. He should have lived the rest of his life locked up in a jail or psychiatric ward. NEVEER should he have been set free!!!!!!
To anyone complaining he got his content from someone else, he has permission to use the content, and often credits the author. As a person with extreme ADD who struggles to read, this is perfect. Thank you, Mr. Ballen!
In reality don't we all get our content from someone else!! So y'all complaining, stop!! Enjoy life,smile more,its to short not to do these things. Could be one of us that was sitting in that seat on the bus.
I’ve seen a few of Mr. Ballen’s videos that were stories I’ve heard before - so what, right? No one tells stories in the same way, and I happen to like Mr. Ballen’s style. At night, when it’s time to get that “the-day-is-done-and-I-can-get-cozy” feeling, I like the format of someone just telling me a story, and that’s what he does. I can’t believe some people. They’re just not happy unless they’re whining about something. 🙄
All content is sourced from somebody else to the source. So whoever would complain is an idiot
Who is complaining , off with there like button!! If they don't love him like everyone else, turn the dam channel!!
Who is complaining about that ?
Are You trying to provoke a confrontation ?
You must be a liberal .....
Absolutely NOT!!!!!! HE'S JUST out here!!!
This man is so charming just adore everything about him❤