Pro hockey player's case was a 14 year MYSTERY (*WARNING GRAPHIC ENDING*)

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Комментарии • 8 тыс.

  • @dansonmuriithi8383
    @dansonmuriithi8383 9 месяцев назад +6650

    The fact that his parents kept going back for 14 years and knew all the employees there means that the guy who did it probably interacted with them multiple times and that's just sad...

    • @starlightequestrian6729
      @starlightequestrian6729 9 месяцев назад +819

      That's what I was thinking. Did he see the missing pictures and realize they were looking for the guy he ran over? Was he remorseful? I hope the guilt ate him alive.

    • @starlightequestrian6729
      @starlightequestrian6729 9 месяцев назад +30

      @@Draco87304 who was already dead?

    • @starlightequestrian6729
      @starlightequestrian6729 9 месяцев назад +28

      @@Draco87304 what dude?

    • @dansonmuriithi8383
      @dansonmuriithi8383 9 месяцев назад +261

      @@starlightequestrian6729 probably didn't even get a good enough look of the face... But he still must have known considering how famous the case got, maybe even helped in the searches on the first days. Just revolting.

    • @starlightequestrian6729
      @starlightequestrian6729 9 месяцев назад +308

      @@dansonmuriithi8383 I'm sure the story of "have you seen my son? He was last seen at this resort on (such a date)" put some dots together for the guy. No way he just didn't know.

  • @Bajanprince67
    @Bajanprince67 9 месяцев назад +15316

    It’s amazing how Mr. Ballen can stand out in freezing temperatures just to tell us a story. The like button could never

    • @crestingdust8874
      @crestingdust8874 9 месяцев назад +256

      I Agree too 😁

    • @R3TR0R4V3
      @R3TR0R4V3 9 месяцев назад +557

      If he didn't abuse the like button so much, maybe it would stand a chance!
      #likebuttonlivesmattertoo

    • @thehousespouse
      @thehousespouse 9 месяцев назад +415

      The flannel and baseball cap are working overtime.

    • @MrBallen
      @MrBallen  9 месяцев назад +1754

      😂😂😂

    • @j.j.kucala9835
      @j.j.kucala9835 9 месяцев назад +189

      Great point! It's nothing for the likes of Mr. Ballen. Don't forget he was a Navy Seal so we wouldn't expect anything less.

  • @YoutubeUser1091
    @YoutubeUser1091 9 месяцев назад +1597

    The fact that the parents kept searching for 14 years and still didn’t get any justice is heartbreaking

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 9 месяцев назад +146

      For 14 years, while we were doing everything we could to find out what had happened to Duncan, we received NO cooperation from the ski operator, or from police. In fact, they were doing everything they could NOT to discover what had happened. If a search action had been initiated on 9 August when Duncan did not return the rented snowboarding equipment, there is no question he would have been found.
      Thank you for caring.

    • @emeryltekutsu4357
      @emeryltekutsu4357 8 месяцев назад +41

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 That's horrible. I'm so sorry that happened. You would think people would have some empathy.

    • @abc-wv4in
      @abc-wv4in 7 месяцев назад

      I'm so very sorry for your loss and that justice has not been served. I hope you are reunited with your son someday in the presence of the Lord. God bless you.@@lyndamacpherson8366

    • @somerandoinoceania
      @somerandoinoceania 7 месяцев назад +20

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 May the Lord bless you 💙 I'm so sorry for your loss

    • @GameparkGames
      @GameparkGames 7 месяцев назад +10

      Sometimes it's not about justice, it's about closure. What happened at the end with the rake thingy cutting him up, the dude panicked and probably did what he thought was a good idea depending what the laws are in that country. You risk your life doing things like this, it sucks when a life ends but it happens and Duncan can only blame himself for the final result of the situation he was in, he was a beginner who knew nothing about the situation he was in and proceeded to be reckless. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

  • @heatherd.9390
    @heatherd.9390 9 месяцев назад +1117

    I grew up in Saskatoon Sk and we knew the MacPherson family. My oldest brother and Duncan were the same age and they played ball together in the 'off season'. As the little sister, I had a 'crush' on Duncan because he was always very kind to me.
    It was so very, very tragic and scary when Duncan went missing. Thank God Bob and Lynda finally got answers, as horrific as they are, and could bring him home and lay him to rest.
    It's hard to believe that we are all in our 50's now. My most vivid memories of Duncan are from a time when I went to all my brother's ball games because I was too young to stay at home alone. A time when we lived on orange soda, hotdogs and licorice from the concession stand.

    • @carlasikorski9072
      @carlasikorski9072 9 месяцев назад +57

      I'm from Saskatoon as well I remember this so sad, so glad his parents got some closure

    • @SuperKnower
      @SuperKnower 8 месяцев назад +28

      I'm so so sorry for your loss of him.He's in a good place now I'm sure.Alexander.

    • @ThreeTrees475
      @ThreeTrees475 8 месяцев назад +32

      How does this comment only have 2 replies
      Rest in peace Duncan

    • @joesuss4669
      @joesuss4669 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@ThreeTrees475yup

    • @carlysheree3130
      @carlysheree3130 7 месяцев назад +22

      Thank you for sharing your memories of Duncan

  • @jacquienewport4903
    @jacquienewport4903 9 месяцев назад +897

    As a Canadian, this story was on the news after they found his mummified body, and again when it was determined that he was pushed into the crevasse. His parents were heart broken. Thank you for telling this story the way you do. You are an amazing storyteller

    • @candaceroman584
      @candaceroman584 9 месяцев назад +12

      Right?! He's like, the Chuck Norris of storytelling.😃

    • @user-lr7rm7hk8e
      @user-lr7rm7hk8e 9 месяцев назад +4

      😢

    • @Mrcoolguy8
      @Mrcoolguy8 9 месяцев назад +2

      Fr

    • @jolanas.5426
      @jolanas.5426 Месяц назад

      Imagine finding your son's body after 14 years and he still looks like he's 23...

  • @davidchambers44
    @davidchambers44 9 месяцев назад +3649

    The ending to this story is so frustrating. The fact that he might have still been alive and just left to die up there, and that someone could do that to him without any conpassion is just horrible.

    • @speaktruth247
      @speaktruth247 9 месяцев назад +92

      It sucks for both people. I don't necessarily think the people who hid his body, didn't have compassion. I just think it was a big shock to them, and fear also of getting in trouble.

    • @mohammedhoosenebrahim9516
      @mohammedhoosenebrahim9516 9 месяцев назад +34

      Compassion😮‍💨

    • @Und3rgroundMan
      @Und3rgroundMan 9 месяцев назад +396

      ​@@speaktruth247 What trouble? It was a complete freak accident. That employee(s) was a total coward POS.

    • @InteriorDesignStudent
      @InteriorDesignStudent 9 месяцев назад +168

      When MrB said the Sno-Cat was started up, my brain knew exactly where this was headed.

    • @userunknown1578
      @userunknown1578 9 месяцев назад +76

      ​@@kevinburgerking1591A sasquatch attacked Duncan and tore his body to pieces.

  • @FrejaBlight
    @FrejaBlight 9 месяцев назад +885

    The fact there is a statute of limitations in this instance is so incredibly wrong. Duncan and his family deserve justice!

    • @abc-wv4in
      @abc-wv4in 7 месяцев назад +11

      I agree.

    • @GameparkGames
      @GameparkGames 7 месяцев назад +25

      I disagree, while the event sucks it would have been avoidable if Duncan used some common sense and waited for the Fog to clear. The fact he didn't do that and didn't wait for others to start back up means he put himself in danger. The thing with the machine is a freak accident, can't blame the guy for trying to do his job just to accidentally run someone over who shouldn't have been there at that point and chances are he was dead the second the thing ran him over and even if not (as the host says) the chances of him surviving that situation would have been low. You'd also have to keep in mind the laws of another country, the dude could have been jailed for murder despite it being an accident and with no witnesses he did what he thought was best (which is a crappy action but one most people would have made). If he had waited and been safe... He'd still be alive.

    • @bobrange4773
      @bobrange4773 6 месяцев назад +90

      ​@@GameparkGames30:09
      I was going to respond but your "logic" is so flawed, the odds of you comprehending are "low".

    • @kyartick8502
      @kyartick8502 6 месяцев назад +33

      ​@@GameparkGamesyou think there should be statute of limitations in manslaughter?

    • @kyartick8502
      @kyartick8502 6 месяцев назад +54

      ​@@GameparkGamesif he wasn't supposed to be up there he never would've been up their. The resort would close down all lifts resulting in no way for people to go up. Tf is honestly wrong with you? Not even trying to be rude. If the slopes are closed there is no way someone can make their way to the top. I've skied when it.was foggy many times. They don't close just because of fog or rain

  • @GioiaMancuso
    @GioiaMancuso 9 месяцев назад +293

    Today is the 34th anniversary of Duncan’s death. My prayers go to him and his family, his mother Linda particularly. Rest in peace Duncan.

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 8 месяцев назад +47

      Duncan’s mother here
      We thank you for your interest, and for caring

    • @GioiaMancuso
      @GioiaMancuso 8 месяцев назад +28

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 dear Lynda you’re not alone. I lost my father here in Italy in an alleged accident at sea in December 15th, 2010. Actually, the yacht he was on board was sabotaged. Those responsible for this crime were never caught. Actually, there were no investigations. It’s a long and difficult story to tell. My life ended that day. This deep sense of injustice will stay in my heart forever. I know what you feel. Sending prayers.

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@GioiaMancuso
      Thank you for contacting me. I am sorry you lost your father in what sounds like a tragic accident that was not investigated. Why is it that the people who are paid to investigate accidents (police and prosecutors) do not do the job that they are paid to do? The European Court of Human Rights expounds about how the “right to life” is a fundamental right of all people. Yet time and time again, I read cases where a person lost their life through no fault of their own, and the case is dismissed with no investigation whatsoever, and no one is held accountable. The court dismisses so many cases that involve police and prosecutor abuse of process, obstruction, and corruption . A human rights advocate that I follow expressed article 2 (Right to Life) of the ECHR this way:, which I thought was excellent:
      “ The Right to Life in action is demonstrated by our strength in questioning death.”
      In other words, just saying we value life is not enough. If we do not do out best to investigate and explain so-called accidental deaths,, we learn nothing., and we cannot claim to be a society that “values life” when we are nit willing to investigate sudden, unexplained deaths.
      Warm regards from Canada to Italy, and our very heartfelt condolences to you, and your family.
      Lynda, Bob, and Derrick MacPherson

    • @byob7728
      @byob7728 6 месяцев назад +9

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 hello Mrs McPherson I just saw this video and it’s so tragic what happened to your son. I pray he is in a better place now. I hope if there is a god that justice will be served for his killer when the time comes. I’m sure Duncan is proud of his parents’ perseverance. 😢

    • @COYG4949
      @COYG4949 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lyndamacpherson8366if ur telling the truth rip

  • @Loki431
    @Loki431 9 месяцев назад +1487

    As you were telling the story, I'd guessed he'd fallen into a crevasse and the glacier had finally spit him out 14 years later. The SnoCat was a horrifying twist I was not expecting.

    • @ctts9946
      @ctts9946 9 месяцев назад +32

      The second he brought it up I got teary eyed

    • @dianejasso1382
      @dianejasso1382 9 месяцев назад +26

      My jaw is still open in shock!

    • @erinblu8551
      @erinblu8551 9 месяцев назад +5

      Same

    • @rodleypumpkins4174
      @rodleypumpkins4174 9 месяцев назад +9

      Idk isn’t it possible he got drug over there and the snow cat guy didn’t know ? I guess I missed the part where they are certain it was malicious ?

    • @PiXie232
      @PiXie232 9 месяцев назад

      @@rodleypumpkins4174yes it is.. though we don’t really know all the details so who knows..

  • @lissette7844
    @lissette7844 9 месяцев назад +2310

    What a horrifying way to go, ultimately the selfish and cold acts of people. Those poor parents looking for 14 years, I hope they find peace.

    • @TheGodFahader
      @TheGodFahader 9 месяцев назад +66

      They found pieces ☠️

    • @patrickaffiliate3235
      @patrickaffiliate3235 9 месяцев назад +40

      @@TheGodFahader no man that’s wild

    • @IchbinX
      @IchbinX 9 месяцев назад +33

      Fear makes ppl do terrible things.

    • @slavicemperor8279
      @slavicemperor8279 9 месяцев назад +139

      @@TheGodFahader bruh that's really too far man, have some respect

    • @byronruffin3026
      @byronruffin3026 9 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@TheGodFahaderlmao

  • @lyndamacpherson8366
    @lyndamacpherson8366 9 месяцев назад +254

    There are two aspects to Duncan’s story- I) what happened on 9 August 1989; and ii) what happened when Duncan’s body was found on 18 July 2003. MrBallen told the story of what happened on 9 August 1989, but did not address the investigation of death by police, coroner, and state attorney. One might be able to halfway rationalize the operator’s motivation in concealing the body in a crevasse - they at least had some excuse - fear of prosecution and/or losing their job. There is NO rationalization of investigating officials who took active measures to prevent the truth from emerging. Their job was to investigate cause and manner of death, NOT conceal it.

    • @joegreenbbka
      @joegreenbbka 9 месяцев назад +25

      I really wish Mr Ballen would've went more into that. Do you know how police were trying to conceal the truth? I'm very sorry you had to go through all of this.

    • @timmokwa1868
      @timmokwa1868 9 месяцев назад +14

      I’m sorry for your loss. I’m glad you finally have answers but this is wrong all the way around and unfortunately is seeming to end legally. 🤬

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 9 месяцев назад +78

      @@joegreenbbka
      Circumstances surrounding Duncan’s disappearance from the ski slope on 9 August 1989 were undeniably suspicious, raising questions of third-party liability, and possible cover up of a fatal accident. Police and ski operator concealed from us, and from Canadian Search and Rescue the fact that on 4 August 1988, a young Asian skier disappeared in the same area of the slope where Duncan was last observed(and the precise location where he would be found 14 years later).
      On 18 July 2003, Duncan’s body, together with the rented snowboarding equipment, re-emerged in the middle of the ski slope, not far from where he had last been observed on 9 August 1989. The coroner was not notified, and police did not attend the discovery site; thus no investigation of the scene, no documentation of the evidence. Recovery of the evidence was carried out by unidentified slope workers, employed by the owner of the property on which Duncan died, who for 14 years was considered potentially liable for having caused/contributed to Duncan’s death.
      An autopsy was mandatory, given the suspicious circumstances surrounding Duncan’s disappearance. The prosecutor denied our request for autopsy, erroneously invoking a statute of limitations. (The statute of limitations for criminal negligence is 3 years from the time you discover what happened (cause and manner of death) It is my very strong conviction the prosecutor thwarted an autopsy, the autopsy, not only to bar prosecution, but to suppress the evidence, and prevent the truth from emerging

    • @joegreenbbka
      @joegreenbbka 9 месяцев назад +24

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 That is asinine. One would surmise authorities wanting justice considering it's in their freaking job description, but, it almost sounds like some sort of cover-up and possible conspiracy.

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 9 месяцев назад +52

      @@joegreenbbka
      Thanks for your input. Your assumption is correct; however as we have learned, authorities DO NOT WANT to know what happened to Duncan - they want to protect the ski operator/tourist industry. Explaining what happened to a Canadian snowboarder is not worth upsetting the lucrative industry. The corruption in the Innsbruck judiciary is obvious to anyone that examines the details of the story.

  • @RAZ8CAR
    @RAZ8CAR 9 месяцев назад +368

    This is horrifying…. Poor Duncan. I wonder what his last thoughts were. I hope he was at the very least unconscious after being hit and stayed that way the whole time. Can’t imagine his families pain. 😞

    • @princeofdarknessxyz1
      @princeofdarknessxyz1 9 месяцев назад +24

      "Hopefully Mr. Ballen tells my story"
      --Duncan

    • @oliveriosteinn
      @oliveriosteinn 7 месяцев назад +14

      With the extreme bloodloss he would have been dead within 2-3 mín. I live in Iceland and we have the biggest glacier in Europe and many visitors dont realize that the summer time is much more dangerous than the wintertime because of the crevasses opening up more because of the warmth. Also add the snow covering them and you got á hidden death trap. I worked once at a gas station and my boss died when his snowmobile fell into a huge crevasse bless him.

  • @slyjester3315
    @slyjester3315 9 месяцев назад +821

    As a hockey fan, I only knew Duncan's story as a first round bust who died in a skiing accident. Props to Mr. Ballen for giving the full details and humanizing Duncan as more than just a news story

    • @harlowjademermaid1882
      @harlowjademermaid1882 9 месяцев назад +15

      I admire him even more bc of this. well said.

    • @Youcanttouchmyhandle
      @Youcanttouchmyhandle 9 месяцев назад +12

      I have goosebumps, poor Duncan he deserves justice.😢

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 9 месяцев назад +3

      I read up after this, far as i could see he was a bust because he kept getting injuries. Happens in all sports. Anyway, doesnt really have anything to do with what ulrimately happened here.

    • @mainsource8030
      @mainsource8030 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@demonkingbadger6689 well it could, maybe he had weaker bones witch is why je was injury prone, and why his leg broke. LOL Its pretty a thin theory, i admit

    • @demonkingbadger6689
      @demonkingbadger6689 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@mainsource8030 perhaps, i didnt read up on what type of exact injuries to be honest. But, yeah, knee injuries are often the most common bane of the athlete's existence. I know a lot on baseball, and basketball, but i grew up in the South in the 80s, so i never got much hockey exposure to know

  • @kikidoesitall
    @kikidoesitall 9 месяцев назад +672

    I hope that Duncan, somewhere and somehow, could see how dedicated and loving his parents were. To keep looking for him for so long, to travel all across Europe just to find him.

    • @kenobi-hi7qz
      @kenobi-hi7qz 9 месяцев назад +5

      I'm 22 and live on my own but if I was to embark on an international trip, let alone a career I'd breakdown my plans and probably even share some credentials like my visas, itinerary, contact numbers of my associates/superiors, where I'd be staying, etc.., it didn't help that Duncan would plan a whole European trip and didn't even think once of informing his parents, friends or anyone. Like was bro really that ignorant?

    • @jimtom4878
      @jimtom4878 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@kenobi-hi7qzwhat numbers special ed?

    • @jimtom4878
      @jimtom4878 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@kenobi-hi7qzit was a freak accident🤡

    • @missmissy_90
      @missmissy_90 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@kenobi-hi7qz
      It was a different time. He probably didn't know where he would end up.
      Not to mention 24 years old was an Adult.
      Not living in mom's house.

    • @Etacovda63
      @Etacovda63 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@kenobi-hi7qz it was not as easy as just writing a text or an email then, quite common to not inform someone of your every move by snail mail.

  • @silverkleptofox
    @silverkleptofox 7 месяцев назад +19

    I love how Mr. Ballen pauses to explain terms in simple words during a story without breaking the flow of a story. ‘They grabbed onto the tow-rope, which is a way to get to the top of the slope. There’s a cable that rotates from the top to the bottom of the mountain, and there are all these bars attached to the cable, and skiers and snowboarders grab the bar while standing on their snowboard or their skis and they literally get pulled up the mountain.’
    Simple, concise, effective. And extremely helpful for a diverse audience who may never have encountered such things like Snow or Mountains (hello from Florida!)

  • @tanyapicou5385
    @tanyapicou5385 9 месяцев назад +76

    This is amazing. Definitely some real parenting right there. They went to Europe immediately. Wouldn't it be nice if all parents were this amazing ❤

  • @PixieNSurf
    @PixieNSurf 9 месяцев назад +412

    What a horrible tragedy. When MrBallen was talking about Duncan going back out in the fog, I was thinking oh man, he fell into a crevasse. But then to hear what really happened made me heart drop. And to hear that there hasn't been any justice is even more heart dropping.
    Thank you for telling Duncan's story, MrBallen!

    • @MrBallen
      @MrBallen  9 месяцев назад +113

      It is very sad indeed. I can't imagine what his parents felt.

    • @BiGsesk
      @BiGsesk 9 месяцев назад

      @@MrBallenlove you mr ballsack!!

    • @bettyir4302
      @bettyir4302 9 месяцев назад +13

      Yes, thought it'd be a crevasse or the snow tractor but the employee was a shocker and who knew there'd be a statute of limitations on murder. At least he was found and could be taken home.

    • @injesusnamewepray46
      @injesusnamewepray46 9 месяцев назад +16

      What's worse is that somewhere at that resort is someone who knows he got away with murder...
      We should find out if there have been any other, ahem, "strange disappearances" in the last 30 + years....
      You up for another look, MrBallen? 😊

    • @SmokeyPyro
      @SmokeyPyro 9 месяцев назад +7

      Id love to think justice sometimes comes in forms we cant see or comprehend in this human experience...
      But trust me, justice will come for everyone, whether you like it or not ❤️

  • @soulstorm8806
    @soulstorm8806 9 месяцев назад +1062

    Rest in Peace Duncan. Glad Ballen told us about this one. Thank you to the parents who never gave up! God bless them and their family.

    • @nahomdesta1237
      @nahomdesta1237 9 месяцев назад +11

      Same😢

    • @asmith1711
      @asmith1711 7 месяцев назад

      😊

    • @dedalliance1
      @dedalliance1 7 месяцев назад +3

      If God was real and or cared, he wouldn't have let their son get chopped up and murdered by an ice raking machine lol.

  • @theldraspneumonoultramicro405
    @theldraspneumonoultramicro405 9 месяцев назад +44

    that employee murdered him, and its absolutely horrible how they got away with this, limitation for certain crimes just simply should not exist, its absurd that they even do exist in the first place for some crimes.

    • @Hatchet1
      @Hatchet1 2 месяца назад

      Yes

    • @nonyabusiness2510
      @nonyabusiness2510 12 дней назад

      you were there? You witnessed it? Because nobody else did. The entire story is assumptions without a shred of actual proof.

  • @consciousobserver629
    @consciousobserver629 9 месяцев назад +97

    As a parent of four children, I would never stop looking if one of them went missing. And if I realized that they had been murdered, I would never stop looking for the insensitive soul that did that to them. I cannot even fathom what his parents experienced.

  • @stankehfish
    @stankehfish 9 месяцев назад +1402

    Imagine searching all those years for your child just to find out he could've been saved and no one will be held accountable

    • @tyarnold4088
      @tyarnold4088 9 месяцев назад +77

      It's a cold world.

    • @amberwaters9529
      @amberwaters9529 9 месяцев назад +87

      I literally gasped when I realized that. As a mother myself. That seems like the most evil form of humanity

    • @hurricanekitty6736
      @hurricanekitty6736 9 месяцев назад +93

      It’s this kinda shit that creates vigilantes.

    • @ZenKrio
      @ZenKrio 9 месяцев назад

      I mean, the last 3 years is basically that... Anyone that died of covid, suffered from the failed vaccine, suffering from a horrid economic crash, it's all Dems, and no one is being held accountable. Just something to get used to...

    • @Logicalsane
      @Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@amberwaters9529you would have done the same had you realized that you k*lled him ..

  • @kirsy74
    @kirsy74 9 месяцев назад +198

    I was 15 when this happened, and I remember hearing about Duncan going missing on the local news and hearing over the years about how hard his parents were still trying to find him. It was huge news locally that he was missing and again when his body was found, but for some reason, I had never before known exactly how he died. I am so infuriated and heartbroken for him and his parents. Thanks for finishing the story for me.

    • @TheDramacist
      @TheDramacist 9 месяцев назад +2

      Do they have a statute of limitations in Scotland? Im English and didn't think they did as we dont.

    • @MorningStarMidnightSun
      @MorningStarMidnightSun 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheDramacistit took place in Austrian territory

    • @G.R.A.322
      @G.R.A.322 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheDramacistit was Austria

    • @nonyabusiness2510
      @nonyabusiness2510 12 дней назад

      you still don't know nitwit. This is nothing but assumptions and fairy tales.

  • @lbar9720
    @lbar9720 6 месяцев назад +30

    I'm a Skier and I can't imagine anyone telling a Beginner to go out onto a slope by themselves at any time, let alone a new snowboarder. Had he had someone with him, he may have survived. This is not an era issue, this is a bad judgement issue! Our condolences to his Family, Girlfriend (at the time), and Friends.

    • @elizabethedens8393
      @elizabethedens8393 3 месяца назад +5

      My first thought when I heard that was the instructors recommendation. Very unprofessional.

    • @syncopatedglory
      @syncopatedglory 2 месяца назад +1

      surprising lack of people talking about this!!!

    • @classic.madeleina
      @classic.madeleina 2 месяца назад +2

      Tbh you would think that. But last year I went skiing with my boyfriend who is a complete beginner. Not only did the instructor take them on a slope that was really difficult to learn on but when that slope was closed the next day she told us to just go practice on this other slope which was waaaay out of his league (I m saying this as an avid skier). Meanwhile within that same ski resort just up another mountain was a perfect to learn on. A lot of the time people who know how to ski or snowboard well loose track of how difficult it really is especially when you learn as a grown up

  • @frankthebaldguy9819
    @frankthebaldguy9819 7 месяцев назад +5

    What I learned from Mr Ballen’s show: don’t ski or snowboard on a glacier, don’t hike in any mountains without a locked and loaded large caliber weapon, don’t buy a house without checking basement, attack, perimeter, and with neighbors about local legends. Don’t move to unpopulated areas even if there is a fence around the property, and always leave a full itinerary when traveling alone.

  • @odessalillian4823
    @odessalillian4823 9 месяцев назад +1408

    I hope that employee thinks about him every single day, every single night and that it absolutely tortures them. So incredibly sad.

    • @LilYet
      @LilYet 9 месяцев назад +156

      The kind of person that can do that it’s the kind of person this probably doesn’t even care. he murdered him, panic is no excuse for that.

    • @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883
      @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 9 месяцев назад +24

      it might have been an older man who did much worse things during The War

    • @annika2395
      @annika2395 9 месяцев назад +30

      ​@imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 why would you say that? some of you people are heartless.

    • @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883
      @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 9 месяцев назад +33

      @@annika2395
      That's the first thing that came to my mind thinking about who may have driven over the guy, gotten out, inspected the scene, tossed the poor guy into the abyss and then repeatedly drove over the hole again.

    • @sha2596
      @sha2596 9 месяцев назад +38

      This is immeasurably horrible. They have to know who did it! They know who worked there. The PARENTS probably met the person!!! And they played stupid for years knowing they likely murdered someone. They have to live with that now. RIP poor Duncan. I wish his family peace and healing.

  • @ZombieSazza
    @ZombieSazza 9 месяцев назад +567

    Christ, I wasn’t expecting such a cruel and horrible twist at the end, poor Duncan, he didn’t deserve to suffer like that! It was a total freak accident and the driver decided he would dump a likely still alive Duncan instead of getting him help. I hope the guilt eats the driver alive,

    • @shydreamguyman4098
      @shydreamguyman4098 9 месяцев назад +53

      i hope it haunts him for the rest of his life .

    • @TheCrystalBoat
      @TheCrystalBoat 9 месяцев назад +43

      Agree. I hope he was so guilty it ate him up and caused years of great suffering till his death. If he is still alive, I hope he is still suffering.

    • @czarbuscus1475
      @czarbuscus1475 9 месяцев назад +35

      Probably did. Cause it was guilt and fear that made him panic in the first place so it Probably haunted him for his whole life thinking "I hope they don't find out" then it turns to "I should have helped him" then to him hoping his his family doesn't find out then when they do its even worse guilt. So that guy is probably living a terrible life rn imo

    • @heavyweight1028
      @heavyweight1028 9 месяцев назад +6

      So it doesn’t haunt me I’m going to say the plow killed him is why the driver dumped him. Still a horrible death.

    • @bold810
      @bold810 9 месяцев назад +1

      I haven't gotten to the end yet, but I feel there will be a cravasse and death by dehydration.
      😦😰😥🥺😞.
      #🎉
      #nonsummerjack

  • @sauletto1
    @sauletto1 8 месяцев назад +25

    My sincere condolences to the MacPherson family. There are no words to describe the influx of angered feelings the full explanation of what really happened created for me, not even knowing Duncan or his family. I am mortified at the cowardice of the operator. Rest peacefully Duncan....🙏

  • @aliiirxsa4235
    @aliiirxsa4235 9 месяцев назад +44

    I’m Austrian and even vacationed near where this happened but never heard of this story
    absolutely devastating..

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 8 месяцев назад +20

      Duncan’s mother here
      Thank you for your interest in Duncan’s story. The reason you never heard of the story is because the ski lobby in Austria has tremendous influence on the media - they don’t report “bad news” - it is not good for business. The ski operator and the ski/tourist industry pay big money to advertise with the media. If the media reports “bad news”, they risk losing bit advertising dollars. money counts more than someone’s life😢

    • @oliveriosteinn
      @oliveriosteinn 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 I'm so sorry for your loss. Hope you and your family are doing better. Love from Iceland ❤️

    • @BlackAcePlays
      @BlackAcePlays 4 месяца назад +3

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 I'm sorry for your loss. And yes, there is hardly any other institution in Austria that is more corrupt, especially in Tyrol, than the ropeway-companies and slope owners. They are tightly knit with local politicians. There was a terrible incident with 155 dead people in Kaprun, Salzburg. The verdicts where more than just a shame for our whole country and everything looked like a huge cover up: "No mistakes where made, just a tragic accident."
      ruclips.net/video/0SFcWZx3L4g/видео.html
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaprun_disaster

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 4 месяца назад +5

      ⁠@@BlackAcePlays
      Thanks for your interest, and understanding of the situation. I have read about the Karpun disaster, and subsequent cover-up. It is a difficult situation when the people entrusted to uncover the truth are actually the people preventing the truth from emerging! I will not give up on doing what I can to expose the cover-up. The prosecutor I am dealing with today has acknowledged “many mistakes were made” in the investigation of Duncan’s death, BUT, he told me that he “must refrain from
      Commenting on closed cases as he DOES NOT WISH To CRITICIZE HIS COLLEAGUES!
      To which I said, you are paid to investigate possible crime, NOT protect your colleagues. I am sure he hopes I will go away or die. I have no control over when I die, but quitting is not an option! As Duncan used to say, “The only time you can fail is when you’re not willing to try.”

  • @BleedForMetal69
    @BleedForMetal69 9 месяцев назад +694

    Out of all the stories you’ve shared, this has to be the most horrific. Poor Duncan and his parents. How cruel. I’m glad his parents got closure, but my god, this is terrible.

    • @ehTCaptain
      @ehTCaptain 9 месяцев назад +31

      Most horrific? 🤔😅 Maybe you havent heard all of his stories, but I would say this is top 10 😂

    • @emul9957
      @emul9957 9 месяцев назад +8

      not the most terrific, there is a story about a killer who burned woman alive in a car and shit

    • @ehTCaptain
      @ehTCaptain 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@eller3452 That one was bad 🥲

    • @jexusli1240
      @jexusli1240 9 месяцев назад

      ​@eller3452 which video is that?

    • @Gabriella01111
      @Gabriella01111 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@jexusli1240Mary the elephant. Although I would warn you of animal cruelty in the most inhumane way before you watch it. I’ve watched all of his videos and that one completely tore me apart, I couldn’t get it out of my brain for days.

  • @adrinadavies9375
    @adrinadavies9375 9 месяцев назад +861

    That snow cat driver is a psychopath, how can you leave another human being to die like that. Statute of limitations should’nt exist for such cases, absolutely horrible. Poor Duncan.

    • @TySatterlee
      @TySatterlee 9 месяцев назад +75

      Exactly. If anything it was an accident in foggy conditions. Call for help. Idk maybe the dude was drinking on the job.

    • @Royak
      @Royak 9 месяцев назад +12

      I agree.

    • @CourtneyDeez
      @CourtneyDeez 9 месяцев назад +40

      First thing I said... No statutes should exist for things like this. I def believe something was wrong with the snow cat driver for him to do that...not mentally there, personality disorder, intoxicated on the job, etc...something. That behaviour is not normal, imo. I hope he somehow paid for what he did. I hope the guilt ate him up inside.
      Poor Duncan. This story is just so heart breaking. His parents....omg. I'm crying for them all.
      I can only hope that Duncan was already dead before the rake went over him & everything else horrific that happened to him. I hope he didn't have to endure any of it. Wishful thinking, tho... I know...

    • @osamu_90
      @osamu_90 9 месяцев назад +89

      It's possible that more than one person had been involved in his death. It has been reported that Josef (the manager of the equipment rental shop) and the police all said Duncan returned his equipment even though they discovered 14 years later that he actually didn't. Additionally, Walter's (the snowboard instructor) statements over the years kept changing.
      Additionally, an Asian man had a fatal accident in the same crevice area that Duncan disappeared just a year prior, yet Franz Brecher (the same inspector who conducted the investigation for both cases) did not think of mentioning the similarities and simply said Duncan probably went for a hike and got into an accident.
      Some people speculated that there was a group effort between the ski resort and the police to coverup Duncan's death, possibly to allow them to keep the business running without trouble.

    • @TooCool4You69
      @TooCool4You69 9 месяцев назад

      @@osamu_90why would cop cover up his murder? To keep his business going on so he can continue killing more poor peoples? Ain’t cop doing “ protect & serve “ correctly..?! No. 💀

  • @LadyEowyn
    @LadyEowyn 9 месяцев назад +49

    That is awful. I'm so mad at that employee. How could you look his parents in the eye after that?

  • @brentcarter8329
    @brentcarter8329 6 месяцев назад +9

    The fact that the instructor didnt look for him or even raise a red flag is bullshit. You sent him out alone in fog on his second day and he never was seen again by you you kidding me

  • @atimidbirb
    @atimidbirb 9 месяцев назад +501

    This is horrifying. I hope the employee that essentially condemned him to death in the snow lives with that guilt and everyone knows it.

    • @ThirdEye...
      @ThirdEye... 9 месяцев назад +11

      The one to blame is Duncan himself! No one forced to go out with that weather…

    • @Libz
      @Libz 9 месяцев назад +103

      ​@@ThirdEye...you feel good making a dead person look bad?

    • @sharondansshewolfmartin738
      @sharondansshewolfmartin738 9 месяцев назад +73

      you'd be the type to blame a victim that got hit by a drunk driver for being on the road -_-

    • @tulesg2008
      @tulesg2008 9 месяцев назад +10

      I hope the same.. 14 + years of not sleeping well.

    • @tulesg2008
      @tulesg2008 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@ThirdEye... this cloud had happened to anyone... Don't judge.

  • @dianedent5564
    @dianedent5564 9 месяцев назад +294

    Duncan was a very close neighbour, he and his family were friends of me and my family. Those 14 years were absolutely soul crushing. I never knew about the devastating events until now. Thank you, Mr. John Ballen, you have given me closure, and for that, I do not know how to thank you, there are no words.

    • @redeye780
      @redeye780 9 месяцев назад +17

      Thank you for sharing! I would get vengeful if the law can’t help. It’s crazy that the murderer gets to walk free

    • @dianedent5564
      @dianedent5564 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@redeye780 yes, I know

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 9 месяцев назад +38

      Hi Diane,
      We still live just down the street from your family’s home.
      Thanks for caring.
      Lynda & Bob

    • @azuradawn5683
      @azuradawn5683 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 Lynda, I'm so incredibly sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how heartbreaking all of this must be. Sending you so much love & hope that y'all are doing okay.

    • @TheStar798
      @TheStar798 9 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@lyndamacpherson8366I'm so, so sorry for your loss - he sounds like such an amazing, promising young man 😢💐

  • @oliveriosteinn
    @oliveriosteinn 7 месяцев назад +9

    I live in Iceland and we have lots of glaciers, even the biggest glacier in Europe and many visitors dont realize that the summer time is much more dangerous than the wintertime because of the crevasses opening up more because of the warmth. Also add the snow covering them and you got a hidden death trap. 15 years ago I worked at a gas station and my boss died when his snowmobile fell into a huge crevasse bless him.

  • @lesliemartin3
    @lesliemartin3 9 месяцев назад +14

    This is one of the saddest uploads. I cant imagine the horror and helplessness that Duncan must have felt those last few hours of his life. His parents are two of the most amazing people i have ever heard about in terms of the hope and perseverance that kept them from ever giving up on finding their son. If it weren't for their actions ( and theirs alone) i doubt anyone would have been able to know Duncan's story. He would have been a missing person whos fate remained unknown like so many others.
    Although i am sad that Duncan and his life full of promise was taken away, i sincerely hope his parents know how much of an inspiration they are to those who have had the misfortune of a person they love going missing. To see these two people narrow down his whereabouts in a foreign country no less to the exact place he was found is an immeasurable feat. I hope Duncan's story will remain a word of caution while his parents story continues to bring hope to those who may still be trying to find their lost family member. As always thank you for sharing ❤

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for youtr interest in Duncan’s story, for your very kind words, and for caring💕 Lynda and Bob

  • @LoneStarStinger
    @LoneStarStinger 9 месяцев назад +552

    I’m sorry Duncan. I feel so incredibly frustrated by the way this was handled after the truth came out. I’m sure he’d be very proud of his parents for never giving up. Sending condolences ❤

    • @nahomdesta1237
      @nahomdesta1237 9 месяцев назад +10

      Yea, it's very hard 😢

    • @Johnwicksot
      @Johnwicksot 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yea fuckin hard

    • @SUNFlower-tt9zv
      @SUNFlower-tt9zv 9 месяцев назад +17

      Duncan was misguided by his instructor to continue his snow boarding after rain and also there was fog.. In this extreme weather how can a well known person like his instructor send him by himself all alone. Stupid..

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 8 месяцев назад +22

      Duncan’s mother here: thank you for your understanding, and for caring

    • @hstar2946
      @hstar2946 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@lyndamacpherson8366 A fellow Canadian here from Ontario. Sending you and your family all the love in the world to continue healing from this absolutely tragic loss of your son. As a mother, I would never stop searching. Hope you are well and may Duncan Rest In Peace. Godbless.

  • @GhosteryAnon
    @GhosteryAnon 9 месяцев назад +736

    Former Ski resort instructor here.
    All resorts have had written schedules of snow cat operators, and their routes, so the resort knows who what where etc.
    Never go skiing/riding alone RIP

    • @kayleigh3648
      @kayleigh3648 9 месяцев назад +50

      Thx for the info dude! But maybe they didn’t have the record anymore since 14yrs have passed. I would imagine companies don’t hold records for that long, esp not in the early 90’s. But if they did, that employee 100% needs to be held accountable and it’s ridiculous that they haven’t been.
      Some ppl in the comments are speculating that he was already dead before he got ran over, but I find that hard to believe cuz how was he not seen by anyone else prior to being ran over? wouldn’t it take a really long time to die of hypothermia if u have snow gear on? Also, how did they avoid leaving a blood trail behind where they dragged him from point A to point B and on the machinery too?! Ugghh I have so many questions man!!

    • @gribbler
      @gribbler 9 месяцев назад +104

      I am Duncan's brother. We know the initials of the people working on the ski grooming that day as well as the supervisor and it's not difficult to know their names.

    • @JaBronFuller4281
      @JaBronFuller4281 9 месяцев назад +32

      @@gribblerRIP.My condolences for you and your family’s loss.

    • @JJfromPhilly67
      @JJfromPhilly67 9 месяцев назад +15

      It wouldn't have been too hard to figure out who the likely drivers of the snow cat were on the day in question. Plus, we know Duncan showed bad judgment snowboarding in heave fog, but what the devil was the cat driver doing driving around in dense fog?

    • @cathyf.2672
      @cathyf.2672 9 месяцев назад +28

      I wonder why the ski instructor didn't report Duncan missing. The instructor and management should have searched and scouted out the area before the ice chopper was used. I hope the ski area counts the people going up the hill, and the people coming back so this doesn't happen again.

  • @AlexAndra-iy5zu
    @AlexAndra-iy5zu 9 месяцев назад +9

    Mr Ballen please keep doing these type of stories. It’s a great way to be aware of crimes without going into a deep dive.
    Sometimes I like my one and ahalf hour deep dives with all the details. There are many times where I don’t have the all that time to listen.
    Almost 8,000,000 viewers/subscribers you are able to reach so many people. Thank you and I’m sure the families are very happy 😊

  • @RH-tv9hk
    @RH-tv9hk 8 месяцев назад +7

    It never ceases to amaze me what parents go through when their child is missing.

  • @JohnnychimpO907
    @JohnnychimpO907 9 месяцев назад +312

    It’s wild that people can make such poor decisions in a moment of panic. How you could go from being a ski slope employee one moment, to a full on murderer the next moment is just insane. RIP 🪦

    • @onlyontfish3784
      @onlyontfish3784 9 месяцев назад +14

      Murderer ? That’s not murder legally- Horrible yes Murder No

    • @DonJulio1942
      @DonJulio1942 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@onlyontfish3784definitely not but that is fs considered manslaughter

    • @JohnnychimpO907
      @JohnnychimpO907 9 месяцев назад +61

      @@onlyontfish3784 Yes, it is literally the definition of murder. Murder has multiple degrees under law. If the worker had only run over the guy and killed them, but taken the time to report it to authorities, they would be charged with vehicular manslaughter (charged, but not necessarily convicted).. However, due to the fact that they hid the body and covered everything up, the charge would be 3rd degree murder, in addition to tampering with a corpse, and any other charges they could tack on. I am no lawyer, but I don’t think you understand how the law works at all. This is 100% a murder. It just happens to be a 3rd degree murder which is less common than 1st and 2nd degree murders.

    • @LittleKikuyu
      @LittleKikuyu 9 месяцев назад +23

      @onlyontfish3784 Yes, that is murder, or manslaughter, depending on the jurisdiction you’re in. If it really happened this way, that is.

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@onlyontfish3784 it is, he even hid the body

  • @viktorcheng2061
    @viktorcheng2061 9 месяцев назад +506

    As an NHL fan, it’s the first time I’ve heard this story. Thanks Mr. Ballen. May Duncan R.I.P. 🙏🏻❤

    • @Justafeller
      @Justafeller 9 месяцев назад +16

      As not an NHL fan, it's the first time hearing it for me too. Very sad.

    • @moondancer4660
      @moondancer4660 9 месяцев назад +1

      WHAT?? You mean he's dead? Don't need to watch it now. 😅

    • @Buffalosabskis
      @Buffalosabskis 9 месяцев назад +8

      I am also a big NHL/hockey fan and I vaguely remember it being discussed in 2003, but I was still pretty young then so I would not usually watch the pregame or intermission segments at that age so it's possible I just missed it. Very sad

    • @viktorcheng2061
      @viktorcheng2061 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@moondancer4660 if you been watching Mr. Ballen for a long time, you know there’s usually death involved

    • @pam190
      @pam190 9 месяцев назад

      Cool Vik. You are a hero.

  • @seewobble7048
    @seewobble7048 7 месяцев назад +11

    That instructor showed an incredible lack of duty of care by suggesting a lone tourist go out in the fog on his own when there would be no one else out there. Duncan's not blameless either. Why would you go out in fog with no one else around?? If something happened, as it did, there's no one around to help you. He'd still be alive if he'd shown some common sense. As for the tractor operator, if there's such a thing as hell, he'll be there roasting away when his time comes. Why would he cover it up if he wasnt at fault? Unless he was drinking while using the tractor? Or doing something else that was against the normal rules & regulations when operating the tractor?
    Several people at fault here, whose actions ensured a preventable death.

  • @meganclow6959
    @meganclow6959 8 месяцев назад +9

    Woahhh I had heard this story before, but never heard the MURDER part?? Poor Duncan he must have been so terrified, what an awful way to pass away. You break your leg and are already in a terrible situation, but then it gets sooo much worse 😢

  • @matthewavery2934
    @matthewavery2934 9 месяцев назад +122

    A tragic story with a very sad ending, no justice for Duncan’s death, and a person too afraid to take responsibility. Thanks MrBallen for sharing this story, it needs to be known what happened, and MrBallen told the story in such great detail

    • @nicholasmills2703
      @nicholasmills2703 9 месяцев назад +4

      I know. It was so sad what may have happened to him 😢 😔

  • @crystalklassen50
    @crystalklassen50 9 месяцев назад +106

    As a Saskatonian myself, I was very curious why there was a photo of a Blades player on the video! Very sad story, thanks for telling it and keeping Duncan’s memory alive.

    • @Michaelmackdonald
      @Michaelmackdonald 9 месяцев назад +2

      I'm also a saskatoonian as well!!

    • @jerseyjay607
      @jerseyjay607 9 месяцев назад

      Or is he making money off of his death?

    • @nnguyen3482
      @nnguyen3482 9 месяцев назад +1

      Duncan played for the blades

  • @timovk
    @timovk Месяц назад +3

    The instructor should not of told a novice to go out there on his own no matter how good his first lesson was

  • @KeikilaniKai86
    @KeikilaniKai86 4 месяца назад +4

    This story is so sad! And, you were right, I saw that first twist coming from almost the beginning. I’ve lived by Mt Rainier in WA state my whole life and I know how dangerous crevasses can be but I NEVER expected that second twist!

  • @99PercentOffFreeHugs
    @99PercentOffFreeHugs 9 месяцев назад +125

    That is horrific. I feel for his parents who never stopped only to end up with such a terrible understanding of their son's last moments and no justice. And knowing how they must of talked to his killer at some point. Truly devastating.

  • @delsc7287
    @delsc7287 9 месяцев назад +148

    Yep. I definitely wasn't expecting that ending. That might be the most horrifying thing I've ever heard. I hope Duncan is now finally able to rest in peace. His poor parents.

  • @keanogianini5809
    @keanogianini5809 8 месяцев назад +11

    I actually got chills from this from how insanely close this is to something that happened to me. Last Febraury, I decided to go snowboarding at Ragged Mountain in NH. I don't have any friends who snowboard, so I was alone. The big difference though, is that I am very experienced and I had been competing for three years. I was bombing a hill that was also completely vacant, until I caught an edge, and face planted into the snow, and slid a good ten feet on my face. I was seeing black and white for a minute, but was still somehow fine, and I still have no idea how I am, but this makes it even more scary to me.

  • @thetastymuffins4326
    @thetastymuffins4326 7 месяцев назад +2

    Your Seagull Lung ads never fail to make me giggle, and I honestly love the small injection of humor into stories that are otherwise quite sad/tragic. ❤
    Thank you for the videos you do, and the work you do with your foundation.

  • @marybarry2230
    @marybarry2230 9 месяцев назад +464

    How can a car sit there for over a month and nobody notices? Nobody checks the license plate to see who owns it?
    The story is heartbreaking beyond words! Rest in peace to Duncan and sincerest sympathies to his parents.

    • @Bajanprince67
      @Bajanprince67 9 месяцев назад +56

      Who knows? This may be a wild guess, but I feel like a lot more people were involved in covering the incident up.

    • @Schmorgus
      @Schmorgus 9 месяцев назад +12

      If no one's reporting the car missing, they won't check it further than to see if the license plate says it's stolen.

    • @scottapache5041
      @scottapache5041 9 месяцев назад +13

      Yeah, sound like rural Europe.

    • @gabrielbarillas
      @gabrielbarillas 9 месяцев назад

      Öö PM

    • @Dragonsbreathcreationz
      @Dragonsbreathcreationz 9 месяцев назад +29

      It happens more often than you think. Somebody abandoned a car in front of our house. The first couple of nights, I thought, Someone must be visiting a neighbor. After a week, We called parking enforcement since the car NEVER moved. Parking enforcement never came. On street sweeping days, they would just keep posting tickets. A month later (after I checked the doors--unlocked-no wallet or purse or personal effects really,, just the owners manual for the car. FINALLY after the whole neighborhood calling parking enforcement, it was towed. So, yeah, I can imagine it happens more than we think.

  • @greenbutterfly9455
    @greenbutterfly9455 9 месяцев назад +158

    This was truly a heartbreaking story.
    What was originally an accident ended up turning into a crime.
    Whether his injuries were life threatening or not, all the guy needed to do was get the poor guy some help.
    I couldn't imagine how his parents felt after learning what really happened to their son all those years ago.
    So sad.

  • @bergeracvandamme
    @bergeracvandamme 9 месяцев назад +5

    This one really got me. That poor guy. Such a waste of life and such an unnecessarily terrible way to die. And even worse, no justice for what was done to him.

  • @The_ProfessionalKid
    @The_ProfessionalKid 9 месяцев назад +8

    I think that the instructor was negligent for not warning Duncan of possible crevasses, or warning him of the danger of possibly falling into one with the poor visibility due to the fog. He encouraged him to take a huge risk to practice by himself, being a beginner. I'm surprised the resort and instructor weren't sued.

    • @waner17
      @waner17 8 месяцев назад

      he stated the resort gave PSAs about the crevasses & you don’t have to be an expert or a genius to know extreme sports in fog is dangerous. the only person that is responsible & should be accountable is the person who murdered him & left him to die alone in a maliciously covered up crevasse. how dare you & shame on you for attempting to blame anyone but the individual responsible for this tragedy.

    • @The_ProfessionalKid
      @The_ProfessionalKid 7 месяцев назад

      Would you have warned him if you were the instructor?

  • @Castle_Bravo.
    @Castle_Bravo. 9 месяцев назад +757

    Poor Duncan. I feel sorry for his parents, they probably encountered their son’s killer at one point.

    • @davefenton102
      @davefenton102 9 месяцев назад +49

      I hadn't thought of that. You could well be correct. I wonder if the person driving the rake kept working there for years after, or quit their job and moved away as soon as they could?

    • @agnediciuniene9861
      @agnediciuniene9861 9 месяцев назад +68

      He could have even been in the search party, making sure no one finds something.

    • @sphillz2217
      @sphillz2217 9 месяцев назад +12

      Or he could of been the one who found him 😮

    • @Yamyatos
      @Yamyatos 9 месяцев назад +17

      I sure hope they did. I hope he continued to work there for all 14 years, feeling his guilt every time they visited, every time he saw their concern and every time they talked to him.

    • @lucabaracuda987
      @lucabaracuda987 9 месяцев назад +21

      14 years looking for him.. A++ parents. 100% they bumped into him.

  • @LaffeeTaffeeGG
    @LaffeeTaffeeGG 9 месяцев назад +509

    It's in our nature to want to help someone that is in distress, or even get help when we find someone's remains. What happened was a complete accident, and no one would have been in trouble. Yet instead of taking the time to help Duncan, or even take him back down the mountain whether or not he survived, the man operating the machine chose to "solve" his own problem by getting rid of Duncan completely. In order to save himself a day or two of inconvenience, he destroyed the lives of several people and made them suffer for 14 years.

    • @VB-lc4xz
      @VB-lc4xz 9 месяцев назад +42

      I think, he could get in big trouble, or, at least, would have lost his job. But it doesn't really matter if it's about a human's life or plain murder! An absolutely horrible creature, not even a human who could do that to a person.

    • @roninheart19
      @roninheart19 9 месяцев назад +15

      he probably had already been in trouble, maybe on probation or something or an ex con who got the job

    • @Danisuzette
      @Danisuzette 9 месяцев назад +11

      No one knows if that happened. It's just speculation.

    • @bradfordfields1079
      @bradfordfields1079 9 месяцев назад +18

      Ice driver will meet his maker one day if that truly happened

    • @ARedMotorcycle
      @ARedMotorcycle 9 месяцев назад +16

      The driver was a coward, plain and simple. He needs to be fed into a wood chipper, feet first.

  • @amberbeatty4762
    @amberbeatty4762 9 месяцев назад +6

    the worst part is that for fourteen years the parents came back. they probably interacted with their sons killer on multiple occasions and just didn’t know it.

  • @indianicholas6562
    @indianicholas6562 9 месяцев назад +5

    I feel so bad for his parents.
    No one deserves that kind of treatmeant

  • @iheartmakersmark
    @iheartmakersmark 9 месяцев назад +53

    That last 5 minutes was just me with my hand over my mouth saying “noooooo” 😢 poor Duncan. All I can hope is his panic and pain didn’t last long.

    • @jenx5870
      @jenx5870 9 месяцев назад +6

      There are two possibilities. One is that he quickly went into shock from the blood loss, and that can bring on a sense of euphoria. The other is that he suffocated to death from the snow piled on him before euphoria set in. I hope it was the former. Or that he lost consciousness within a few minutes. Either way, he did suffer pain and panic for at least a few minutes, and the driver is evil.

    • @iheartmakersmark
      @iheartmakersmark 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@jenx5870 ugh 😑 I hope it was the former too! What an awful way to go. That’s one of the parts of humanity that scares me the most. The normal everyday person who makes a mistake but then acts in a vile manner to cover their own ass instead of potentially saving a life.

    • @esteemedmortal5917
      @esteemedmortal5917 9 месяцев назад +4

      MrBallen is good at introducing a detail, like the snocat and then telling the rest of the story so that it’s only when he re-introduces the snocat you’re like “oh dear God!”

    • @melissacaldwell5325
      @melissacaldwell5325 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@jenx58709

  • @birgith1996
    @birgith1996 9 месяцев назад +1074

    As an Austrian I really feel ashamed that such a thing could happen - we have such great mountain rescue forces who could probably saved his life 😥

    • @user-zk2hn5bc8p
      @user-zk2hn5bc8p 9 месяцев назад +8

      True

    • @user-zk2hn5bc8p
      @user-zk2hn5bc8p 9 месяцев назад +23

      Keine Ahnung wie so etwas In Österreich, Deutschland oder der Schweiz passieren kann, hella sad

    • @lacountess
      @lacountess 9 месяцев назад +69

      Not the mountain rescue’s fault or any Austrian’s other than the evil pos who injured him and didn’t have the compassion to save him.

    • @mattdann5406
      @mattdann5406 9 месяцев назад +11

      Such a sad story. Im sure hearing the story doesn't make anyone scared to go visit the country. Theres bad people that do bad things in the whole world sadly. Its too bad people do crazy things to stay out of trouble.

    • @theartivator5857
      @theartivator5857 9 месяцев назад +1

      Lmao weammk

  • @ripbigscarr1222
    @ripbigscarr1222 8 месяцев назад +2

    Mrballen has the best energy for a story teller, i hope he never quits RUclips

  • @katiestevens1397
    @katiestevens1397 9 месяцев назад +4

    Beginner, experienced or expert the buddy system is a must, especially years ago when there were no mobile phones etc. My heart goes out to the family I hope they've had some sort of closure, bless them.

    • @Whatdoesthisboxdo
      @Whatdoesthisboxdo 8 месяцев назад

      This is great advice. I don't care if you're skiing, hiking, swimming, the buddy system is always safer. At least if you somehow become incapacitated somebody can try to find help for you.

  • @Adams_Mccoy
    @Adams_Mccoy 9 месяцев назад +519

    That was so cruel…. Poor Duncan he didn’t deserve such a horrific death.

    • @SmokeyPyro
      @SmokeyPyro 9 месяцев назад +4

      I agree that its horrifying, but id like to keep the mysterious alive,
      Who knows if he deserved it or not, who am i to say he didnt? I dont know him, and especially since i believe in reincarnation, this might just be his fate locked in

    • @RustyShackleford-kd9it
      @RustyShackleford-kd9it 9 месяцев назад +11

      Thank you global warming for solving this case.

    • @hatake1990
      @hatake1990 9 месяцев назад +16

      Quite cruel. I wonder how that employee was able to live with themselves after that...😔

    • @TheUKisThere
      @TheUKisThere 9 месяцев назад +13

      @@SmokeyPyrothese are the replies I expect to see every time I read a comment like that, but never actually do…. Until today….

    • @SmokeyPyro
      @SmokeyPyro 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheUKisThere id like to break the status quo and say however i feel like is proper
      Ill never wish this upon anyone and id love to see the world become a better place, from the bottom of my heart.
      But i cant see past the curtain we call life, and know whoever and whenever they deserve something or not 🙏

  • @BeRightBack131
    @BeRightBack131 9 месяцев назад +29

    Nearly every story I've ever heard of people going missing and/or dying in wilderness type areas begins with "he/she decided to go hiking/skiing/snowboarding/walking/jogging/or... alone." Alone is the keyword here, yet again. And most of the time, the person lost never told anyone where they were going or when they'd be back. How many lost or deceased people does it take before others learn from their mistakes? NEVER go out alone. And definitely, tell someone where you went and when you'll be back. His own parents didn't even know where he was going. European tour? Europe is a HUGE continent, with thousands of touristy type destinations. It's like finding a needle in a haystack. RIP Duncan.

  • @angelamicheau7656
    @angelamicheau7656 8 месяцев назад +4

    That is so sad, I feel for his parents and I am glad you told his story.❤

  • @Persephonebeats
    @Persephonebeats 9 месяцев назад +5

    Bless the parents for continuing their search. ❤️
    Rest in peace and condolences to his family and friends. 🕊️

  • @skywarp9541
    @skywarp9541 9 месяцев назад +1018

    That snow cat driver is a monster. Even if they can’t charge them, they should let everyone know who did it so they can be publicly shamed.

    • @eisaaltamimi3500
      @eisaaltamimi3500 9 месяцев назад +105

      It’s kinda hard to pin point who did it , since there are at least 2 to 3 drivers daily and after 14 years you won’t really know who drove that time of the day + I won’t believe the hotel will have records of daily activity’s of all staff after 14 years.

    • @timothyunterthiner2637
      @timothyunterthiner2637 8 месяцев назад +115

      That guy will definitely be haunted by this for the rest of his life. Especially if Duncan was alive and moaning at the time

    • @chunkysocks8121
      @chunkysocks8121 8 месяцев назад +92

      If that driver has a soul, hes haunted by this. If that was my loved one, I would forgive them for the accident that they couldnt have possibly foreseen, but never for covering it up and letting everyone worry and wonder for years.

    • @lasciviouspaine
      @lasciviouspaine 8 месяцев назад +104

      @@chunkysocks8121 if that driver had a soul, they would have stopped to help

    • @GoatzombieBubba
      @GoatzombieBubba 8 месяцев назад +24

      It is a theory. You cannot convict ppl with theories.

  • @sophiebear3656
    @sophiebear3656 9 месяцев назад +432

    I have listened to Mr Ballen's stories over the years but this one had me crying. Decided to read through the comments and found the mum's comment and I just couldn't stop crying. What a horrible, horrible accident!! Condolences to his family x

    • @ctts9946
      @ctts9946 9 месяцев назад +6

      She deleted it. I saw it yesterday but didn't read. What'd she say?

    • @damitzdesign
      @damitzdesign 9 месяцев назад

      What’d she say?

    • @billbutkis
      @billbutkis 9 месяцев назад

      What’d she say?

    • @dannyrpena1
      @dannyrpena1 9 месяцев назад +7

      She said thanks for the interest and kind remarks

    • @rachelwarner1013
      @rachelwarner1013 9 месяцев назад

      What was her username??

  • @jodyameral2458
    @jodyameral2458 8 месяцев назад +2

    Happy to have you back MrBallen narrating some new strange, dark, and unusual true stories

  • @nosajdabeno
    @nosajdabeno 8 месяцев назад +1

    It’s been awhile since I’ve watched this particular video and I have to say, of all the stories you’ve told, that I’ve heard, this one really bothered me and has stuck with me. No kidding, there have been times when I’ve just been relaxing not really doing anything and then this story comes up in my mind. I don’t know why this particular story has hit me the way it did, but, what a horrible way to go. My heart breaks for his parents/family, friends and any fans he may have had. Oh speaking of, that particular Scottish hockey team you mention, they’re from the same city my Mother was born in! Great show as always Mr. B!

  • @nichole8609
    @nichole8609 9 месяцев назад +143

    This story is so tragically brutal. I can't imagine what the parents went through upon finding out what happened to their son.

    • @LittleKikuyu
      @LittleKikuyu 9 месяцев назад +4

      Well, they never really did. It’s all just theories. But the suffering the must have gone through looking for him all these years is unimaginable. 😣

  • @Stinger6757
    @Stinger6757 9 месяцев назад +202

    This guy is so good at telling stories. I'm going to be honest. I am on the autistic spectrum so it's very hard for me to comprehend regular story formats. But MrBallen makes it so easy for me to understand what's going on in the story as if I have the normal mindset. Thank you so much!

    • @Jay-fq7py
      @Jay-fq7py 9 месяцев назад +17

      Same here. Some people I cannot follow at all. But I can always understand Mr Ballen though this story hurt my heart ♥️

    • @user-co8uy5rb2s
      @user-co8uy5rb2s 9 месяцев назад +1

      It could be because he tells it in an over stimulating way. It keeps you focused.

    • @e.l.2734
      @e.l.2734 8 месяцев назад +2

      I think he's been actually helping me human a little bit better. :D It's nice to feel in touch with people's emotions, and the way he does it makes everything make sense organically.

    • @jayrhodes3766
      @jayrhodes3766 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! Same here! I’m AuDHD and this has been the most easy-to-comprehend experience I’ve ever had, even when it’s just short stories.

  • @ioanzatui
    @ioanzatui 9 месяцев назад +4

    Oh, god. I'd offhandedly thought, "What if that SnowCat got him?"
    But it was a horrible idea so I immediately disregarded it. But then you mentioned the employee getting into one and Duncan being stranded in foggy conditions, and I felt genuinely nauseated. Poor Duncan, I hope his parents found closure, and may he rest in peace after such a frightening fate.

  • @FindingMyselfOutside
    @FindingMyselfOutside 9 месяцев назад +8

    The absolute cowardice of that employee boils my blood, to be so selfish that you deny a family closure for 14 years… I hope that guilt ate him up until he offed himself

  • @janeene24
    @janeene24 9 месяцев назад +62

    So heartbreaking. What a terrible way to die. He literally could’ve been saved and it’s a shame no one was held accountable. God bless his parents for never giving up. 😢

  • @rolyatnad
    @rolyatnad 9 месяцев назад +254

    upmost respect and admiration to his parents. the amount of effort they put into this whole thing really shows how a parents love for their children is an absolutely beautiful and unbreakable bond. so sad it ended the way it did. I hope they've found some kind of peace

  • @CreepTime
    @CreepTime 6 месяцев назад +2

    14 years of going back and forth in this search, the absolute heart break of that my God

  • @tnsloek
    @tnsloek Месяц назад +1

    This story broke my heart. His poor parents!! I also can’t stop thinking about what happened to him and if he was alive and suffering before dying all alone.

  • @JollyOrfali
    @JollyOrfali 9 месяцев назад +117

    This story had me speechless, as a snowboarder myself this was super relatable. One time I fell and dislocated my shoulder in a very similar low visibility situation all alone. Luckily it was a short run and I could stand up and ride the rest of the way down. It’s really terrifying to imagine breaking a leg riding all alone, and then you see someone driving up thinking you’re saved but instead get chopped up by some giant blades and thrown down some giant crevasse 😢

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 9 месяцев назад +8

      Much like driving off-road (which is my jam), please don't ski/snowboard alone. Even if it's a "popular" ski resort, with tons of guests and the mountain is crowded... bring at least one friend with you. Preferably more - the more the better. It's *always* dangerous, and there is safety in numbers.

    • @HWarner
      @HWarner 9 месяцев назад +9

      Or, at the very least, tell someone where you going and what you are doing, how long you'll be. Even if it's the receptionist at the hotel or the barman. Just make sure someone knows when you aren't where you're supposed to be. RIP Duncan.

    • @lilaccreeper2005
      @lilaccreeper2005 9 месяцев назад +2

      My sister fell over while skiing in low visibility conditions, luckily someone else fell over near her and she screamed loud enough that my mom found her as well because her skis hadn't come off, twisting and trapping her leg. Can't image what would of happened if it happened while she was alone

    • @TheUltimateKeyboardWarrior
      @TheUltimateKeyboardWarrior 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@lilaccreeper2005same thing that happened to Duncan or worse

    • @dae4624
      @dae4624 9 месяцев назад +1

      Please stay safe!

  • @timverrecchia1654
    @timverrecchia1654 9 месяцев назад +75

    This story really demonstrates parents undying love for their children, 14 years they searched and I'm sure they would of kept going even if they didn't find him.
    I just hope they feel some peace now after they found their son to rest.
    Respect to all parents

    • @OneSong411
      @OneSong411 9 месяцев назад +3

      I was thinking the same thing. 14 years is a long time to continuously search like that. Made tears come to my eyes.

    • @matthewnewton8812
      @matthewnewton8812 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, this reminds of the horrifying incidents of children being abducted, where the authorities know and basically everyone else knows that after a day or two the odds of finding that child alive are virtually nonexistent. But these parents, they won’t ever stop looking for their kids. They will stop everything and do nothing but travel to the ends of the earth and back looking for their precious babies and it’s utterly heartbreaking. This story, like those stories, really demonstrate how totally undying the love of a parent is for their child.

  • @jenelljurado8500
    @jenelljurado8500 8 месяцев назад +4

    What a hear breaking story!!!! 😢 MAY HE REST IN PEACE 🕊️ ❤

  • @daddycj4109
    @daddycj4109 8 месяцев назад

    There’s only a few content creators who have ads that are actually enjoyable. You are one of the few.

  • @abigailhurley3370
    @abigailhurley3370 9 месяцев назад +166

    I’m absolutely open mouthed that someone could be so cruel and treat a fellow human being that way. I hope he thinks about Duncan and his poor family every day. Those parents I could cry for. Your child should never die before a parent 😢😢😢😢

    • @doomjuice.1652
      @doomjuice.1652 9 месяцев назад

      Well chimps to mutilate baby chimps

    • @user-yi7gm8jg7q
      @user-yi7gm8jg7q 6 месяцев назад

      yeah I wonder how humans can be so cruel too, 1 million people in Iraq you killed, over oil
      and the only U.S president who hasn't started a war, was Mr. Trump, the hole world is hoping that you elect him again....

  • @iridescentlytey4933
    @iridescentlytey4933 9 месяцев назад +406

    What’s really horrifying is that the killer’s judgment to just toss him to not be found really ended up keeping them from being held accountable. Like they were essentially “rewarded” for letting him die. That really hurts 😔 sad story all around 💔

    • @sleepycat3956
      @sleepycat3956 9 месяцев назад +1

      ^Hey everybody, this guy's a phony^

    • @CourtneyDeez
      @CourtneyDeez 9 месяцев назад

      @MRBallen01 stop this crap...we all know ur a fake account... Are u a scammer? Gtfoh...

    • @Sorchia56
      @Sorchia56 9 месяцев назад +17

      He’ll gets his comeuppance and he’s not going to like his eternal fate. Bless Duncan’s poor family, how beyond devastating this is. Rest in Peace Duncan. I hope you get the opportunity to haunt the maggot that did that to you every once in a while.

    • @KizhyKat
      @KizhyKat 9 месяцев назад +17

      @MRBallen01Scammer.

    • @lyndamacpherson8366
      @lyndamacpherson8366 9 месяцев назад +28

      I’m Duncan’s Mom.
      Thank you for caring

  • @Crowmouse6
    @Crowmouse6 7 месяцев назад

    I love how you add funny stuff to the videos it makes me less idk paranoid and afraid of everything lol idk I just enjoy it

  • @loguipigui9565
    @loguipigui9565 8 месяцев назад +1

    I was already thinking the snowboard instructor was negligent to suggest a beginner to go and do snowboard alone when they won't be able to see anything, then this person not showing up the next day (knowing the last thing you talked about with him was he would go to the mountain by himself) and not making sure if he checked out or anything.
    Little I knew he wasn't the worst employee there.

  • @gabriellehorace2289
    @gabriellehorace2289 9 месяцев назад +42

    Oh, my God......this poor man!! The fact that there may be closure, but not justice is heartbreaking. Prayers for the MacPherson family. 😢🙏🏽💜

  • @bettyo222
    @bettyo222 9 месяцев назад +100

    This is why it's obligatory to always inform someone close of your movements all the time.RIP Duncan.

    • @wynwilliams911
      @wynwilliams911 9 месяцев назад +4

      true but in this case even though they searched the mountain side thoroughly they missed the body as it had been hidden and they weren't looking for a hidden body

  • @evas2693
    @evas2693 7 месяцев назад

    You are a really good story teller and i can tell how you respect the people in your story , you dont even pronounce their name wrong even it is not english name. Respect to you 🙏

  • @Br0wn3y3dgurl
    @Br0wn3y3dgurl 9 месяцев назад

    I just wanted to chime in to say thank you for all you do with your videos. You're the only podcast I listen to on Amazon music. I come over to watch your videos while I'm waiting for new Amazon posts. I started following you on Spotify. I binged all your podcasts on Spotify while I was traveling. I really look forward to your videos and I just wanted to share that with you. I don't normally leave comments but I felt compelled to this evening. I hope you're having a great weekend. 😊

  • @Raraking4796
    @Raraking4796 9 месяцев назад +110

    Absolutely heart breaking!! Things like this is another reason why the buddy system is so beneficial. I’m so heart broken for Duncan and his family. He was so young and full of life! He had so much left to accomplish in his life. Sending all my best wishes for healing to his family and friends. Duncan deserved more than this dreadful end. 💔

  • @karenwetherall7890
    @karenwetherall7890 9 месяцев назад +102

    What sort of instructor would send a beginner out on the slope alone in a fog out? Perfectly told Mr Ballen, thank you!! 💖

    • @donnabeach1250
      @donnabeach1250 9 месяцев назад +32

      My thoughts exactly!!

    • @gigglesinside
      @gigglesinside 9 месяцев назад +20

      Yeah he sounds really suspicious like he's involved. Normally the last person to see someone alive is to blame. Apparently his story kept changing too..

    • @aurheachadablagon2044
      @aurheachadablagon2044 9 месяцев назад +9

      I was thinking same thing..

    • @RadenWA
      @RadenWA 9 месяцев назад

      I did a little google search and apparently there’s a theory that Duncan is targetted for being a spy or something…a bit too far into the conspiracy side perhaps but that’s a theory.

    • @snarfington
      @snarfington 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@aurheachadablagon2044plus he had his jumper. Just sounds more convoluted and I had a sus about the instructor at the beginning.

  • @Notur764
    @Notur764 6 месяцев назад

    You're funny Hello Fresh Ad 🤣 I love it!!! It so reminds me of another story teller in my family that would have loved it too. ❤ You're so smart and sweet. Beautiful day I love listening to you. ✌️

  • @dylanwhitehead6597
    @dylanwhitehead6597 9 месяцев назад

    Bro your ads get me everytime I could be wide awake or almost about to fall asleep and I always fall right for it still 😂 well done you guys kill it !

  • @billierenfro705
    @billierenfro705 9 месяцев назад +99

    Such a heartbreaking story. It’s crazy to think that “snow cat driver” is probably still alive and well, as much as you can understand how one would panic, too bad the driver didn’t just tell authorities right when the accident happened.

    • @hurricanekitty6736
      @hurricanekitty6736 9 месяцев назад +14

      It’s amazing how they panicked over something that was just an accident but we’re able to live the next 14yrs NOT in a panic that they’d get caught….every time I saw a cop, I’d think “this is it, im busted”….if this person was paranoid that they’d get in trouble over an accident I can’t imagine he lived a very peaceful life thereafter

    • @yuliapanina8815
      @yuliapanina8815 9 месяцев назад +19

      It is terrible how that cat driver not only didn't help Dunkan but tried to cover his sin......... What a terrible human being. 😢

    • @Logicalsane
      @Logicalsane 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@yuliapanina8815you would have done the same had you k*lled him

    • @billierenfro705
      @billierenfro705 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@hurricanekitty6736yeah for real. I couldn’t live with that on my mind, no way.

    • @Juanfilipe766
      @Juanfilipe766 9 месяцев назад +3

      Alive and well? That guy will definitely have horrible guilt living with him for the rest of his life. He may have done something horrible out of panic, but that doesn’t mean he feels okay about it.

  • @LesbianMermaid
    @LesbianMermaid 9 месяцев назад +66

    God this one really got me. These don’t usually make me cry but this one absolutely did. I can’t even imagine how horrifying of a death that was, and then to possibly know that you could be saved, but for the person to instead just dispose of you… and his poor parents, they were so devoted, going back for 14 years 😭

  • @michelleedler3414
    @michelleedler3414 9 месяцев назад +4

    I can't believe how this ended. My heart goes out to his parents.

  • @justaspy5605
    @justaspy5605 9 месяцев назад

    Learned a lot more about ski-ing very educational
    especially explaining everything to where anybody could understand