Thanks so much for the awesome comments guys!! I notice a few of you have mentioned that the audio of the video is sped up in parts and makes me sound like a chipmunk haha! I am looking into it, it's very strange as it's not affecting everyone! I am pretty sure it's only happening on the RUclips app! If you copy and paste the link here ruclips.net/video/tDdtC1pH3ec/видео.html and watch on your browser it should work just fine! Thanks Rick
Rick Shiels Golf -hey Rick, I believe it's called a decibel meter. They're not expensive, but might be able to help make a comparison of the loudness of each different driver when hit. I'd look forward to that video! Good luck!
Rick, I was a big critic of your preview videos...but now that I've seen your in depth review, i think it is absolutely necessary to do it that way and you're doing an awesome job mate! should've never doubted you mate!
The leaking to the right you noticed may have been from delofting the driver. In taylormade drivers when you deloft them it then opens the face a few degrees, and vice versa if you add loft it closes the face. Just a thought, love the review!
Rick if you are looking to test driver sound, which I think is mightily important when choosing a club, there are two factors you have to remember. First is you can measure the decibels that the driver puts out using a decibels meter. This measures how physically loud the driver is. But more importantly is measuring pitch, which is the frequency of the sound. Pitcher helps determine the piercing capabilities of sound through the air and is why higher pitched noises sound louder even when producing lower decibel levels than lower pitched noises. Pitch of a sound can be measured by computer programs by recording with your mic. I wouldn't be surprised if some of your recording software has those capabilities now and if not, there are plenty of programs online.
just bought this from my local driving range. My normal shot shape is a draw or snap hook. I also def found it faded more than I was used to, but only to the point it was 10yds offline. and I didnt get any snap hooks or over draw. I think twist face may actually be beneficial to my swing. Time will tell. One weird thing is that I seemed to be able to swing it faster than any other driver by 3+mph consistantly. Tested 7 drivers in total. This just seemed to suit me best. Also it has the custom black paint rather than silver, looks awesome. Very happy with my £115 splurge. Of course came straight to Rick to see what he had to say. Kinda glad I tested it first as I dont think I would have bothered. Like Rick says you have to test for yourself.
I am a newer golfer and took lessons for a year while playing the M1. The M4 (with a White Tie Ozik R-flex shaft) was hitting draws and straight shots right out of the gate with little to no swing changes. If anything, I am able to swing with more power (and go lot further) with the M4 since I can trust it's not going to spin off the face and go OB. There's still an occasional slice, but I usually only go left (I'm a lefty) if I block it. This is a great deal on a used club for your money.
As not a great golfer - I tried the Rogue, M4 and G30 (all 9.5-10 deg + stiff shafts) - the M4 rocks for me. I'm not a good enough golfer to play draws or fades yet - just need a driver to get it where I'm "somewhat" aiming to go - M4 does that in spades. 275 + yard carry with just a little draw. I dropped the angle down to sub 9 deg and I'm loving it. low flight bullets with rolls to near 300 +/- 20 yard deviation from my target line. Big fan.
Rick a decibel meter is all you need. The average driver generates about 82-90 dBA of sound. To put that into terms for you by hitting a basket of balls with your driver you will be subjected to less than 2% of your daily "average". Of course this depends on swing speed and smash factor however until the dBA rise above 116 there is no real threat to long term hearing loss :) An interesting factor is that the dBA we are subject to vary with "near ear" and "far ear" (ear close to the golf ball at impact) hope this helped from a fellow PGA Professional from Poland. Love your work m8.
Good honest review...all twist face does is cure one problem,but creates another,so no difference what so ever,apart from wasting over £400.In years gone by id buy a new driver every year because all we had was golf magazine reviews(no GC quad or ball data ,distance spin etc)so I fooled myself by believing the latest marketing buzzwords.But now with RUclips and golfers like Rick Shiels now prove that technology has been the same for over five years.Just by watching his reviews over the years you can see this and hear this..Look at his performance with the old G20 driver!!!blew this m3/4 out of the water and so have all the drivers he's reviewed as well from years gone by.Thanks Rick youve saved me a fortune these past few years👍🏻
I've been playing about a year and a half and have been wanting to test this driver since it's the most inexpensive model with Twist Face. I bought a 10.5* model off eBay for $150 and it was paired with a Matrix White Tie 55g R-flex shaft. I was hitting natural draws with ease where before my 2017 M1 was favoring a fade/slice. Even shots off the toe with the M4 weren't fading or slicing. The M4 could be more suited for an average swing speed as I wasn't skying the ball anymore than my 2017 M1 set to 10.25* of loft. I also have a TM Mini Driver and the Twist Face really isn't a gimmick in my opinion.
The chipmunk audio is too funny! Nice job getting the rights for Alvin to do a Taylormade driver review. Know that had to cost a pretty penny. Hahaha!!
Rick, very much like the new review style. It gives us real, solid information to help us make a good decision or what to look for when considering a new product. Keep it comin!
Rick - love the change in your reviews ... I'm learning so much more with this format. Thanks and I look forward to more reviews. I'm a loyal subscriber and really appreciate you!!!
Great review Rick.! Genuinely am so impressed how honest you are and thorough. I have been very interested in this new tech and now I know I don’t “need” this as a golfer especially the fact I am terrible with a driver...
Just been given one of these from a mate, I took it straight to the range What a driver! I found it wasn't very forgiving but looks/sounds amazing when hit in the sweet spot. I have the 10.5 with reg flex shaft.
Finally watch the M4 video in my browser and all I can say is wow! The new format quality just between M3 and M4 is better. Would nice to hear some of the on course comments live as you hit the shots. Kind of a gut reaction to what you are feeling and seeing. Seems like even some tour plays are struggling with twist face. Tiger was playing the new M3 at Torrey Pines and he was really struggling to find fairways I think he hit like 12 out of 58 for the week and it was a double miss. Maybe he should go back to the M1 he played at the Hero. Still great to see Tiger back making cuts.
Hi Rick! If you wanted to measure the volume from clubs you review. You could use a Decibel level meter to measure the dBs coming from impact! Hope that helps
Hey Rick, as far as measuring the sound, you can purchase a decibal meter. The price varies greatly though, but it all depends on your budget. I've seen them go for $25 upwards of $1000 for the industrial versions. Hope this helps and keep up the great work.
For testing the sound level you can get a decibel meter from most electronic store, and most likely online. Then just set it up close to where the ball is and you'll have a reading. Loving the new testing. Would really love to see you do a full test like this on the Cobra F8
Great in depth test and does cover a couple of my concerns on twist face. Glad you have clearly stated for people to test. Keep up these great new reviews I love the more in depth and tech reviews
hey rick, great review. if you want to measure sound you can use a decibel meter app on your phone. just set it next to the ball when you hit and record the data.
I play the Callaway Epic and I don't plan on Switching anytime soon. Looks great feels great sounds great and I hit it straighter and longer than any other driver I never used.
Rick, thanks for the video! I love the new "infographic." I hope you can start charting a larger comparative infographic as you add other club reviews to show previous number from previous reviews. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
Loving the new in-depth test format Rick! No need to measure the Db levels, just rank the sound in categories; Quiet/dull........Moderate/dull.........Moderate/tiny..........Loud.........&Holy Shit that`s DEAFENING!!!!!!! I`m thinking of changing my Ping G30 SFT this year, so I`m planning to try out the Ping G400, Callaway Rogue Draw bias & the TM M3/4 (seeing if they work with my old mans low heel strike). But I suspect that none of them will be any better than my current "fairway finder".
Great review Rick, thanks for doing this. Shot #8 that you were so upset about because it went right, was only 142 rpm to the right, which would be a slight Power fade, and you carried it 292 yards! SIGN ME UP for that carry. I can always aim a little left! You should put a piece of making tape on the ground for your toe line to make sure you are set up the same every time. I have noticed slight aiming differences in your testing videos.
I love the M4, I play a fade shot. So when I do hit it off the toe it keeps me from drawing my shot when I’m aiming left. So my miss isn’t as bad and keepsake in the fairway or just off the fairway left. Without the twist face I might end up getting a big duck hook. M4 suits my swing perfectly.
Hey dude you could use a decibel reader to get a reading on how loud each shot is. Not sure if anyone has said that but anywho .. Keep up the awesome work.
I just started seriously golfing the start of last year. I’ve had a mean slice like most beginners but have taken that out in almost all my clubs but driver. All my other clubs going pretty straight, not really drawing or fading but my driver has still had a mean slice. Got this driver from a friend this year and felt like my slice got worse, had a few days of practice where something clicked and every ball was straight and going a mile but haven’t been able to recreate that consistently. Otherwise I see the ball spin like no tomorrow, leave straight and go 100yards hard right where as a few other drivers I’ve tried tend to slightly fade. This video makes me think the spin rate is too crazy for me. Obviously still working on my swing. Went from a normal score around 110 to consistently mid 90s while struggling to get off the tee box with this driver
I feel the new review style is more thorough, is based on more data, and the comparison to your data averages helps to place how the tested club compares to your norms.
I like the new style of reviewing. While I like getting to see a wide variety of clubs, I am more interested in seeing how you view the technology that is going into the clubs and how that technology plays out in performance. Having you test these clubs more in-depth provides a greater sample size and makes the review mean more. As an engineer who loves sports, I enjoy watching these videos primarily for the science and how the advances in technology are playing into golf club manufacturing. I also enjoy seeing what "technology" is real and what is more for the sales pitch. Great job and keep up the good work!
Two good reviews (M3/M4). Appreciate you have to walk a fine line with how you feedback on this new technology, good balance and you get your message across well with strong credibility. Will the gimmicks ever stop, will the hype ever stop - probably not with certain brands. Keep up the good work Rick!
Very good reviews, these feel more honest and that isn't to say you haven't been honest in the past. Looking forward to more of this type of review this year. Have fun at the PGA Show!
Rick you can get a cheap digital decibel meter and set it next to the GCQuad to capture the sound. Also, can't wait to see your Cobra full review to see how it worked while out on the course.
Another great review Rick.. If you want to check how loud they are you can get a digital decibel Meter easily for around £40-£50 or even cheaper there are some downloads available for I phones/Play store,tablets etc.. Keep up the great work matey..
Rick, great review format. Although doing these types of reviews will certainly be a time consuming venture. To address your question on sound measurement, there are sound level meter devices ranging from about 15.00 to 150.00 here in the states. A sound level meter is a measuring instrument used to assess noise or sound levels by measuring sound pressure. Often referred to as a sound pressure level (SPL) meter, decibel (dB) meter, noise meter or noise dosimeter, a sound level meter sound level meter uses a microphone to capture sound. The sound is then evaluated within the sound level meter and acoustic measurement values are shown on the display of the sound level meter. The most common unit of acoustic measurement for sound is the decibel (dB). You will want one that offers recording so you can check after the shots and not have to have someone holding and looking at it for you. I don't know brands you have in the U.K. There are apps available for smart phones, however they are not very accurate. I hope this helps, and thanks again for the reviews.
Hi Rick, Thanks for the review as always. The reason for commenting now is that I am considering an M4 driver. You've worried me with the shots going slightly right off the toe. I like to draw and fade the ball and you appear to have struggle when you were doing this. You asked if there is a way of detecting and analysing the sound of a club. You can do this with a microphone and then using time and frequency analysis. You'll see the overall amplitude on the time trace plus how long it takes to decay. On the frequency spectrum you'll see how the sound is composed (which frequencies and their amplitude). However I'm not sure what you would do with this data.
with a good quality condenser microphone you can get software that measures the decibel level and even analyze the frequency to see the loudness and "pitch" of the driver high pitched "ting" or lower pitched "thud"
I’m in my 4th M driver now (2 m2’s and 1 M1) and this Tour Issue 16 M2 head I have now is incredible. Planned on the M3 but after your review I may pass. We’ll see how the demo day goes but hopes are low now
Great review Rick, you've really upped your review game! If you'd like to test the loudness of your drivers, have a look at how the firearms guys test suppressors on firearms (Military Arms Channel does some great stuff here). Basically, get a decent decibel meter, ensure consistent setup (driving bay doors open/closed, consistent distance of the meter from the club face, consistent height of the meter off the ground), and then just record multiple shots and average the volume :) The fancier meters will also give you a 'sound profile' - which may or may not be useful when describing the sound to us.
You mentioned wanting to measure decibel levels for drivers, I know they make smartphone apps, but they have meters at music stores. I would think that if you didn't want to use an app, they should have a meter there. I really like these in-depth reviews!
Rick, I think these in depth reviews are invaluable and a great addition to your channel. Very well done and please keep it going. Please do the new Vokey wedges soon and please explain the bounce of the club. Dave D
Am sure I can speak for most golfers out there for their concern of this twisted face on club/s. Our aim is to hit the sweet spot on every club to send the ball to their intended target, that is what we are taught/shown and it does make common sense in our goal/s! Am sure a lot of money time and research has gone into this product, but am sure longer distance off the tee is every golfer aim as one does not intend to hit the toe or heal of the club! your video showed the danger/s of receiving a ball flight which you did not intend! In saying all this, I will look forward in trying the club out just for my own curiosity! Many thanks for the demo!
You can get a decibel meter on the app store to measure how loud the impacts are - have your phone a set distance from the ball each time for accurate results
If you were wanting to evaluate the loudness of the club a decibel meter might be a good idea. Only downside decibel doesn’t determine the pitch whether it’s a high sound or low sound only the loudness.
Great review. I hit this club this weekend and it felt like it helped my shots straighten out. Now, I am about an 18 handicap golfer. For me, knowing that you are a scratch golfer and it seems like this club really is more of a shot improvement club intended for golfers like me, it is difficult for me to have a good take away from your review all be it very detailed. It would be great if you could have your buddy who is the mid-handicap golfer hit this club to see what he says since I generate similar club head speed. Just a suggestion to reintroduce your mid-handicap review since there are many golfers like us out there that are mid to higher handicap that would benefit from his input for a club like this. Food for thought.
Gregory Bell yeah I am a 12 handicap and I put this in my bag and I have zero complaints..my shots don’t leak right like his were, I have no problems finding fairways and I get great distance with it..If I go right, it’s because I hit it to the right but straight, it doesn’t fade off on me like he was getting..but mine is 10.5 and I don’t fuck with that setting
Rick, try using a sound level meter, or a noise dosimeter. Both used for industrial hygiene purposes to measure sound. Should be what you need, but not sure about the price range you are looking for. Cheers
Thanks so much for the awesome comments guys!!
I notice a few of you have mentioned that the audio of the video is sped up in parts and makes me sound like a chipmunk haha! I am looking into it, it's very strange as it's not affecting everyone! I am pretty sure it's only happening on the RUclips app! If you copy and paste the link here ruclips.net/video/tDdtC1pH3ec/видео.html and watch on your browser it should work just fine!
Thanks
Rick
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Rick Shiels Golf still a chipmunk...no idea what you are saying. Genuinely looking forward to hearing your opinion. Please reupload
Rick Shiels Golf -hey Rick, I believe it's called a decibel meter. They're not expensive, but might be able to help make a comparison of the loudness of each different driver when hit. I'd look forward to that video! Good luck!
I realize it is kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good website to watch newly released movies online ?
@Carter Layton try FlixZone. Just search on google for it :)
Thanks for watching guys!
So tell me... What driver are you using now? Which are you thinking of switching to next? 🤔
Let me know ⬇️
Rick Shiels Golf F8+ in nardo - so good
On that G30 LS tech
Original M1
Looking to try M3 M4 and F8.
Don't like the way callaway drivers sit behind the ball for some reason
F8 is the next weapon to go in the bag!
Been using the taylormade r7 quad, old and heavy, saving up for the epic/m2 lets see.
Just bought this driver yesterday, never more far and straight drives. I love it
Do you still love/use it?
Love the new format... Much more detailed less unanswered questions.. good job
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Love the performance graphic and testing clubs in that way, great job bud
daddy finch I love you
Rick, I was a big critic of your preview videos...but now that I've seen your in depth review, i think it is absolutely necessary to do it that way and you're doing an awesome job mate! should've never doubted you mate!
This is so true. I’ve hit this driver and it helps from what I’ve seen. And I love it. May not work for everyone but you should give it a shot.
For someone who plays Ping equipment from 2012 with no desire to upgrade, I find these videos entertaining enough to watch. Nice job, Rick.
The leaking to the right you noticed may have been from delofting the driver. In taylormade drivers when you deloft them it then opens the face a few degrees, and vice versa if you add loft it closes the face. Just a thought, love the review!
This driver worked out the best for me. I'm interested in buying that driver.
This new review format is awesome. Love the thorough testing over at period of time to really fully "understand" the equipments capacity.
A great thorough and in-depth review. As with your earlier M3 review, you have really raised the bar for reviewing.
Cheers
Worth to remember that when you crack the loft down the face opens and when lofted up the face closes. Could be the cause for shots going right
Rick if you are looking to test driver sound, which I think is mightily important when choosing a club, there are two factors you have to remember. First is you can measure the decibels that the driver puts out using a decibels meter. This measures how physically loud the driver is. But more importantly is measuring pitch, which is the frequency of the sound. Pitcher helps determine the piercing capabilities of sound through the air and is why higher pitched noises sound louder even when producing lower decibel levels than lower pitched noises. Pitch of a sound can be measured by computer programs by recording with your mic. I wouldn't be surprised if some of your recording software has those capabilities now and if not, there are plenty of programs online.
just bought this from my local driving range. My normal shot shape is a draw or snap hook. I also def found it faded more than I was used to, but only to the point it was 10yds offline. and I didnt get any snap hooks or over draw. I think twist face may actually be beneficial to my swing. Time will tell. One weird thing is that I seemed to be able to swing it faster than any other driver by 3+mph consistantly. Tested 7 drivers in total. This just seemed to suit me best. Also it has the custom black paint rather than silver, looks awesome. Very happy with my £115 splurge. Of course came straight to Rick to see what he had to say. Kinda glad I tested it first as I dont think I would have bothered. Like Rick says you have to test for yourself.
I am a newer golfer and took lessons for a year while playing the M1. The M4 (with a White Tie Ozik R-flex shaft) was hitting draws and straight shots right out of the gate with little to no swing changes. If anything, I am able to swing with more power (and go lot further) with the M4 since I can trust it's not going to spin off the face and go OB. There's still an occasional slice, but I usually only go left (I'm a lefty) if I block it. This is a great deal on a used club for your money.
What a great in depth review! Best review I’ve seen you do! Fair and honest, awesome!
As not a great golfer - I tried the Rogue, M4 and G30 (all 9.5-10 deg + stiff shafts) - the M4 rocks for me. I'm not a good enough golfer to play draws or fades yet - just need a driver to get it where I'm "somewhat" aiming to go - M4 does that in spades. 275 + yard carry with just a little draw. I dropped the angle down to sub 9 deg and I'm loving it. low flight bullets with rolls to near 300 +/- 20 yard deviation from my target line. Big fan.
Rick a decibel meter is all you need. The average driver generates about 82-90 dBA of sound. To put that into terms for you by hitting a basket of balls with your driver you will be subjected to less than 2% of your daily "average". Of course this depends on swing speed and smash factor however until the dBA rise above 116 there is no real threat to long term hearing loss :) An interesting factor is that the dBA we are subject to vary with "near ear" and "far ear" (ear close to the golf ball at impact) hope this helped from a fellow PGA Professional from Poland. Love your work m8.
Really like the comparison chart. By far the best way to show test results that ive seen by anyone. Good job
Good honest review...all twist face does is cure one problem,but creates another,so no difference what so ever,apart from wasting over £400.In years gone by id buy a new driver every year because all we had was golf magazine reviews(no GC quad or ball data ,distance spin etc)so I fooled myself by believing the latest marketing buzzwords.But now with RUclips and golfers like Rick Shiels now prove that technology has been the same for over five years.Just by watching his reviews over the years you can see this and hear this..Look at his performance with the old G20 driver!!!blew this m3/4 out of the water and so have all the drivers he's reviewed as well from years gone by.Thanks Rick youve saved me a fortune these past few years👍🏻
I've been playing about a year and a half and have been wanting to test this driver since it's the most inexpensive model with Twist Face. I bought a 10.5* model off eBay for $150 and it was paired with a Matrix White Tie 55g R-flex shaft. I was hitting natural draws with ease where before my 2017 M1 was favoring a fade/slice. Even shots off the toe with the M4 weren't fading or slicing. The M4 could be more suited for an average swing speed as I wasn't skying the ball anymore than my 2017 M1 set to 10.25* of loft. I also have a TM Mini Driver and the Twist Face really isn't a gimmick in my opinion.
The chipmunk audio is too funny! Nice job getting the rights for Alvin to do a Taylormade driver review. Know that had to cost a pretty penny. Hahaha!!
Wasn't expecting such honesty good work
Rick, very much like the new review style. It gives us real, solid information to help us make a good decision or what to look for when considering a new product. Keep it comin!
Great review again Rick. I'm liking the honesty about the twist face and that it isn't this all magical face that fixes bad shots.
Rick - love the change in your reviews ... I'm learning so much more with this format. Thanks and I look forward to more reviews. I'm a loyal subscriber and really appreciate you!!!
"I was expecting to look up and see one ball flight, and I saw a completely different ball flight." Sounds like the typical tee shot for me mate.
Easily best reviews out there! Loving the new format, so detailed and concise.
I agree with the consensus. New review format is top notch.
As always, great review! Must say that I like the old review style better but really appreciate all of the effort you put in for us! Thanks Rick
Absolutely love the new style of review. No wonder Golf Channel hired you!
Anyone else having issues with the video? Voice goes really fast. The M3 video his voice was slowed down. Weird
Great review Rick.! Genuinely am so impressed how honest you are and thorough. I have been very interested in this new tech and now I know I don’t “need” this as a golfer especially the fact I am terrible with a driver...
Just been given one of these from a mate, I took it straight to the range What a driver! I found it wasn't very forgiving but looks/sounds amazing when hit in the sweet spot. I have the 10.5 with reg flex shaft.
Just bought this M4, tested a few more drivers but found this a good driver for my shape of shot
Superb review Rick, great way to test out the claims of the manufacturer!
Finally watch the M4 video in my browser and all I can say is wow! The new format quality just between M3 and M4 is better. Would nice to hear some of the on course comments live as you hit the shots. Kind of a gut reaction to what you are feeling and seeing.
Seems like even some tour plays are struggling with twist face. Tiger was playing the new M3 at Torrey Pines and he was really struggling to find fairways I think he hit like 12 out of 58 for the week and it was a double miss. Maybe he should go back to the M1 he played at the Hero. Still great to see Tiger back making cuts.
Been using the Cobra LTD that is was fitted for me. I am not planning to switch to a new driver this year. I am very happy with it.
Hi Rick! If you wanted to measure the volume from clubs you review. You could use a Decibel level meter to measure the dBs coming from impact! Hope that helps
Thank you for candid honesty Rick. Helps my decision !
Wow rick. Well done! A superb review. I was sceptical about the new video format but u proved me wrong!
The new review style is spot on for me! Thanks Rick
Great review. The comparison to your average driver shots is a fantastic addition.
Cheers Kevin 👍
Think I’ll pick up the 2017 M2 driver AND 3 wood for the same price
Love the looks and feel of m2 and on the fence about twist face
I did exactly that and added the hybrid. Couldn’t be happier.
Great video, Rick. The filming is getting so much better and the graphics and transitions make your videos look so professional. Keep it up!
Thanks so much!
Videos are looking great aren't they... Some great graphics
Congrats for being selected as one of the judges for Season 2 of Driver Vs Driver! Have fun
Hey Rick, as far as measuring the sound, you can purchase a decibal meter. The price varies greatly though, but it all depends on your budget. I've seen them go for $25 upwards of $1000 for the industrial versions. Hope this helps and keep up the great work.
For testing the sound level you can get a decibel meter from most electronic store, and most likely online. Then just set it up close to where the ball is and you'll have a reading. Loving the new testing. Would really love to see you do a full test like this on the Cobra F8
I have watched both of the new taylormade videos on the drivers and really like the new review format
Great in depth test and does cover a couple of my concerns on twist face. Glad you have clearly stated for people to test. Keep up these great new reviews I love the more in depth and tech reviews
hey rick, great review. if you want to measure sound you can use a decibel meter app on your phone. just set it next to the ball when you hit and record the data.
Rick, you have hit an absolute bullet with the new video reviews!
After tesing Epic, M1 and M2 last year, I went with the M2 and it is working well for me.
Best reviews on the net, quality content
I play the Callaway Epic and I don't plan on Switching anytime soon. Looks great feels great sounds great and I hit it straighter and longer than any other driver I never used.
Rick, thanks for the video! I love the new "infographic." I hope you can start charting a larger comparative infographic as you add other club reviews to show previous number from previous reviews. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
Another great job, Rick, and simply LOVING this format and top-notch production.
Solid review, digging the greater depth of detail. The graphic is also a useful addition.
Loving the new in-depth test format Rick! No need to measure the Db levels, just rank the sound in categories; Quiet/dull........Moderate/dull.........Moderate/tiny..........Loud.........&Holy Shit that`s DEAFENING!!!!!!!
I`m thinking of changing my Ping G30 SFT this year, so I`m planning to try out the Ping G400, Callaway Rogue Draw bias & the TM M3/4 (seeing if they work with my old mans low heel strike). But I suspect that none of them will be any better than my current "fairway finder".
Great review Rick, thanks for doing this. Shot #8 that you were so upset about because it went right, was only 142 rpm to the right, which would be a slight Power fade, and you carried it 292 yards! SIGN ME UP for that carry. I can always aim a little left! You should put a piece of making tape on the ground for your toe line to make sure you are set up the same every time. I have noticed slight aiming differences in your testing videos.
I love the M4, I play a fade shot. So when I do hit it off the toe it keeps me from drawing my shot when I’m aiming left. So my miss isn’t as bad and keepsake in the fairway or just off the fairway left. Without the twist face I might end up getting a big duck hook. M4 suits my swing perfectly.
The Audio is sped up on the RUclips app, i was able to watch it by goin onto the RUclips site through a browser
And I was thinking I’m the only one hearing a squirrel talking...
Hey dude you could use a decibel reader to get a reading on how loud each shot is. Not sure if anyone has said that but anywho .. Keep up the awesome work.
I just started seriously golfing the start of last year. I’ve had a mean slice like most beginners but have taken that out in almost all my clubs but driver. All my other clubs going pretty straight, not really drawing or fading but my driver has still had a mean slice. Got this driver from a friend this year and felt like my slice got worse, had a few days of practice where something clicked and every ball was straight and going a mile but haven’t been able to recreate that consistently. Otherwise I see the ball spin like no tomorrow, leave straight and go 100yards hard right where as a few other drivers I’ve tried tend to slightly fade. This video makes me think the spin rate is too crazy for me. Obviously still working on my swing. Went from a normal score around 110 to consistently mid 90s while struggling to get off the tee box with this driver
I feel the new review style is more thorough, is based on more data, and the comparison to your data averages helps to place how the tested club compares to your norms.
really digging these new new reviews!
Love the way you tested this club!! Keep this up.
I like the new style of reviewing. While I like getting to see a wide variety of clubs, I am more interested in seeing how you view the technology that is going into the clubs and how that technology plays out in performance. Having you test these clubs more in-depth provides a greater sample size and makes the review mean more. As an engineer who loves sports, I enjoy watching these videos primarily for the science and how the advances in technology are playing into golf club manufacturing. I also enjoy seeing what "technology" is real and what is more for the sales pitch. Great job and keep up the good work!
Thanks Scott!
Best reviewer in the business!
Two good reviews (M3/M4). Appreciate you have to walk a fine line with how you feedback on this new technology, good balance and you get your message across well with strong credibility. Will the gimmicks ever stop, will the hype ever stop - probably not with certain brands. Keep up the good work Rick!
Very good reviews, these feel more honest and that isn't to say you haven't been honest in the past. Looking forward to more of this type of review this year. Have fun at the PGA Show!
Rick you can get a cheap digital decibel meter and set it next to the GCQuad to capture the sound. Also, can't wait to see your Cobra full review to see how it worked while out on the course.
Another great review Rick.. If you want to check how loud they are you can get a digital decibel Meter easily for around £40-£50 or even cheaper there are some downloads available for I phones/Play store,tablets etc.. Keep up the great work matey..
Loving the 2018 videos so far Rick!
The M4 rocks for me I have a fast swing speed however I found the regular shaft 10.5 loft just perfect
Rick you can use a decibel reader for measuring the sound of the driver.
Love the new review style!!! So in depth and informative
Great edit! greeting from Taiwan!
This video contains all information I want to know about M4. Well done Rick!
Really like these full in depth reviews
Rick, great review format. Although doing these types of reviews will certainly be a time consuming venture. To address your question on sound measurement, there are sound level meter devices ranging from about 15.00 to 150.00 here in the states.
A sound level meter is a measuring instrument used to assess noise or sound levels by measuring sound pressure. Often referred to as a sound pressure level (SPL) meter, decibel (dB) meter, noise meter or noise dosimeter, a sound level meter sound level meter uses a microphone to capture sound. The sound is then evaluated within the sound level meter and acoustic measurement values are shown on the display of the sound level meter. The most common unit of acoustic measurement for sound is the decibel (dB).
You will want one that offers recording so you can check after the shots and not have to have someone holding and looking at it for you.
I don't know brands you have in the U.K. There are apps available for smart phones, however they are not very accurate. I hope this helps, and thanks again for the reviews.
Love the idea of sound measurement. I pretty much buy drivers by sound these days as dont fancy getting tinnitus on the driving range.
Love the new in depth reviews and honest reviews giving joe public a heads up when spending their hard earned money thank you
Awesome and thorough comments. Thanks Rick for your professionalism.
Hi Rick, Thanks for the review as always. The reason for commenting now is that I am considering an M4 driver. You've worried me with the shots going slightly right off the toe. I like to draw and fade the ball and you appear to have struggle when you were doing this. You asked if there is a way of detecting and analysing the sound of a club. You can do this with a microphone and then using time and frequency analysis. You'll see the overall amplitude on the time trace plus how long it takes to decay. On the frequency spectrum you'll see how the sound is composed (which frequencies and their amplitude). However I'm not sure what you would do with this data.
Loving the format Ricky
with a good quality condenser microphone you can get software that measures the decibel level and even analyze the frequency to see the loudness and "pitch" of the driver high pitched "ting" or lower pitched "thud"
I’m in my 4th M driver now (2 m2’s and 1 M1) and this Tour Issue 16 M2 head I have now is incredible. Planned on the M3 but after your review I may pass. We’ll see how the demo day goes but hopes are low now
Great review Rick, you've really upped your review game! If you'd like to test the loudness of your drivers, have a look at how the firearms guys test suppressors on firearms (Military Arms Channel does some great stuff here). Basically, get a decent decibel meter, ensure consistent setup (driving bay doors open/closed, consistent distance of the meter from the club face, consistent height of the meter off the ground), and then just record multiple shots and average the volume :) The fancier meters will also give you a 'sound profile' - which may or may not be useful when describing the sound to us.
You mentioned wanting to measure decibel levels for drivers, I know they make smartphone apps, but they have meters at music stores. I would think that if you didn't want to use an app, they should have a meter there. I really like these in-depth reviews!
Rick,
I think these in depth reviews are invaluable and a great addition to your channel.
Very well done and please keep it going. Please do the new Vokey wedges soon and please explain the bounce of the club.
Dave D
Thanks for the honest review. You didn’t twist your channel👍👍👍👍☺️
Am sure I can speak for most golfers out there for their concern of this twisted face on club/s. Our aim is to hit the sweet spot on every club to send the ball to their intended target, that is what we are taught/shown and it does make common sense in our goal/s!
Am sure a lot of money time and research has gone into this product, but am sure longer distance off the tee is every golfer aim as one does not intend to hit the toe or heal of the club! your video showed the danger/s of receiving a ball flight which you did not intend! In saying all this, I will look forward in trying the club out just for my own curiosity! Many thanks for the demo!
Outstanding review again Rick. Thank you for the time you put into this!
You can get a decibel meter on the app store to measure how loud the impacts are - have your phone a set distance from the ball each time for accurate results
Good job Rick. Love the in depth review.
If you were wanting to evaluate the loudness of the club a decibel meter might be a good idea. Only downside decibel doesn’t determine the pitch whether it’s a high sound or low sound only the loudness.
Great review. I hit this club this weekend and it felt like it helped my shots straighten out. Now, I am about an 18 handicap golfer. For me, knowing that you are a scratch golfer and it seems like this club really is more of a shot improvement club intended for golfers like me, it is difficult for me to have a good take away from your review all be it very detailed. It would be great if you could have your buddy who is the mid-handicap golfer hit this club to see what he says since I generate similar club head speed. Just a suggestion to reintroduce your mid-handicap review since there are many golfers like us out there that are mid to higher handicap that would benefit from his input for a club like this. Food for thought.
Gregory Bell yeah I am a 12 handicap and I put this in my bag and I have zero complaints..my shots don’t leak right like his were, I have no problems finding fairways and I get great distance with it..If I go right, it’s because I hit it to the right but straight, it doesn’t fade off on me like he was getting..but mine is 10.5 and I don’t fuck with that setting
Fantastic new format.....fan freaking tastic!
Rick, try using a sound level meter, or a noise dosimeter. Both used for industrial hygiene purposes to measure sound. Should be what you need, but not sure about the price range you are looking for. Cheers