Forza Horizon 5 : Gear Ratios & Aero Tuning (Beginners Guide/Tutorial)[Part 9]
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2024
- My Fellow Racers,
In this video, I explain the final step in the tuning process for road going builds in Forza Horizon 5 and this time, it is all about tuning your gear ratios and aero components.
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I watched all the videos of the series and subbed.
Amazing content.
If you have the time you have to make a video that gets a stock car to fully tuned in one video.
I know you have video examples but i would love to see the full prosses for good build.
I have to say the differential tunning was the hardest.
Again great videos!
Lol, yes I am working on this. I picked a MB CLK GTR as my example to work with. I recorded my entire tuning process and trying to cut it down now. I also recorded how it performs in online racing so you have that to look forward to👍🏼
I do really like your intro and the Wasted sound effect and you went the extra mile to zoom it in for the icing on top there. And 2:06 lol
You do some really nice fun add ins :D lol
But very nice informative video!! You can tell this man does his research!!
Thanks my dude😬glad you enjoyed it and glad it helps✌🏼
Great Vid man! Will be watching this back a lot because I'm slow LOL
Thanks my dude✌🏼consider joining the discord if you need help understanding something. A good few members can help explain things and I am generally always available to help👍🏼
wow, thats a very technical video. But I liked it. Nice job!
Thanks👍🏼glad you enjoyed it and I hope it helps✌🏼
"Now for the bad settings" (proceeds to perform the most beautiful drift on that turn that I have ever seen)
Please tell me the time stamp😅I need to refresh my memory
10:48
Admittedly, the idea is more traction and less drift, but it's still very clean!
Thank you sir😅👍🏼wasn't meant to be a drift but that's generally what happens when you break traction, stay on throttle and have long ratios☝🏼
I hope you will enjoy the next lot of "drifting" videos I have coming up. I finally accomplished what I needed to in order to begin 👀
lol ya there were a couple of turns that while he lost traction (which in road racing is generally bad) he still drifted through the corner beautifully as if everything went exactly as planned lol
Great series man, I love getting really technical in an MMO open world racing open Questing! style HOUSE buying , auction house having , WHEEL SPIN car earning Car racing simulation arcade game.
Lol I sense a hint of sarcasm here😅
@@racingreaperofficial Haha : -D actually, reading back at myself comment, it can sound a bit Sarcastic or over-the top.. I am just That passionate about Forza! man..
Thanks for helping community ! I subbed !
@@slavche lol it's all good my dude. I'm glad I could help you👍🏼and thanks for the sub 👊🏼
+1 Sub, great video
Thanks man😁👍🏼👊🏼glad I could help✌🏼
ive been trying to perfect the tunes on two of my audi R8’s (ones v10 and the other’s v12) and this helps me understand a bit more! but my car knowledge is still not good so its hard to remember it all.
Stick to the basic goals. For your gears, tune each gear so that when you shift, you putting the engine RPM at the right point for best power/torque usage from the engine. Then adjust final drive so that it will redline at top speed. For aero, stick to giving the car as much grip as possible that corners as you need it to. Gotta do this by feel though. Best advice is to keep more front aero less rear aero although you will have to figure out the proportions to offset the front from the rear 👍🏼
@@racingreaperofficial thank you for the reply! I've gotten a really good tune now on my main r8 and it works splendid, after rewatching this video it helped me with my main problem which was wheel spin on launch. thank you again for such an informative and helpful video :)
Just to check something man, your R8 is AWD?
@@racingreaperofficial i believe so? i kept it stock because rwd has usually made it harder for me to drive and lowers stats sometimes 🤷♂
I was asking because must remember to really dial in the centre differential to get it to be as rearward as it can be but still have it be balanced when launching and stuff. I remember having that issue with the very same Audi. Finding that balance is really tricky👀
Very informative overwhelmed lol
Lol I'm glad I could help. Pop me your questions on what is an information overload and maybe I could expand on it for you?👍🏼✌🏼
@@racingreaperofficial appreciate it . I’m learning a lot from great sources but being a disabled man I could only ever drive a real vehicle with adaptive controls so Forza is as close as I can get! I guess my main confusion is with gearing. Lengthen is towards speed correct? I have understood the general concept of every gear must be visible on the graph. Preferably in an arc like figure .
You want gears to get progressively shorter aka smaller lines visible to reach top speed without sacrificing acceleration?
@@mattmanley7118 Ah well I am glad to hear that you have found a way to enjoy what we love. Yes, you are correct my dude👍🏼lengthening is more towards speed and you are correct on the second thing as well but it depends. It can be more like an arc if the car can keep its acceleration going all the way through and the gears can deliver the right speeds per corner type but not always. For example, sometimes you may need to lengthen 3rd for a medium speed corner because when you exit, you find that you already at the limiter and lengthening 3rd will give you some room to exit with a bit more speed and let you shift up to 4th comfortably. The other thing is that overdrive gear concept I spoke about. If a car cannot deliver constant acceleration all the way to top speed, adding those extra gears and setting those extra gears to handle the part of the top end where the acceleration tapers off would help but the graph won't exactly look like an arc all the way through. Let's say you need a 7th gear as an overdrive gear then from 1st through to 6th will look like the arc shape and 7th will suddenly deviate from the arc by going higher or lower on the graph depending on the car. I wish I could show you a picture or two lol, RUclips needs to update to support this🤔
That's precisely it👌🏼
Have you ever tried using harmonic progression to tune your gears. After you figure out where you want first and last gear it spreads the rest of them out evenly.
Ah yeah👍🏼I do that when I want to skip time lol
But I always set it up according to the car's capabilities, the gear ratios have a big part to play in how you can battle
I've noticed that *never* add only front aero, it will cause massive oversteer even if I tune differential to maximum
You are correct, it can tend to imbalance the car making the front very "tight" on the road so the rear goes loose especially if you max out the diff lock. Although there are instances where you can actually benefit from front aero alone like on cars that have major understeer issues (FWD/AWD), just fine tune how much downforce and try to balance out how the front and rear interact with each other👍🏼
Same can be said for rear aero without front aero, if a car has major oversteer (RWD) then a rear spoiler correctly fine tuned to balance the car out front to back and it can solve the problem
But you should rather not have the aero to solve the understeer or oversteer issue, better to use mechanical tuning (Toe, Diff, brake balance, damping, ARBs) to sort it out👌🏼
@@racingreaperofficial I do prefer purist and realistic builds, I only use aero if I really need to, for example, I built Evos and Skylines for S1 and they just couldn't handle well without rear aero
Lol you're alot like me. I try to avoid aero as much as possible (1. I don't like the look 2. Most importantly, the top speed drawback!) I try to figure it out the balance by tuning the other stuff. Some cars it's possible, some it's tricky. It depends really 🤔
Do you post tunes on forza? What’s your creator title?
Sup dude, Yeah. Some are old tunes but you can for sure check them out. Search for "Shini YT7878". If you want specific tunes, you can join the discord and let me know and I will work on them👍🏼
Here because I'm trying to build a FWD A class rally car that isn't an embarrassment
Talk me through what you've been doing and I can help 👍🏼
@@racingreaperofficialIt's a 2014 fwd A class Fiesta. The first two gears are basically non-existent. I set the ratios in a way that the upper limit of the first gear is set to 60 kph - it starts redlining at 30kph.
Also made the second gear long so that it started at around 3500 rpm but it starts very close to redline.
Shifting quickly through the first two leaves the car bogged down in third. I could just make the first two really long but that would make 4, 5 and 6 useless while also giving suboptimal acceleration in 1st and 2nd(dropping down to 12th right at the start vs AI).
Maybe I need to find out at what speeds I should upshift so that I can enter the next gear in the optimal power band?
@Nothinglikefamily ok so that Fiesta always has that issue when you take it up to A Class no matter whether it's on road or off road; if you leave it in the stock FWD drivetrain, that's going to be the outcome.
My best advice; especially considering that you cannot get traction from 1st and 2nd is to lower them down to the speed ranges you will need from those gears. I follow a basic template of using 1st gear for really tight and slow hairpins and 2nd gear for a 90 degree corner or a not so tight hairpin.
Bear with me now because I haven't played Horizon 5 for months now but if I remember correctly... Horizon Baja Circuit (the one by the festival that uses that dirt track), the S bends I used to enter in 3rd, apex with 2nd and exit in 3rd again, the U Bend just after the water puddle (more like a small pond really) I used to enter in 4th, apex with 3rd and exit with 4th and it's the same for that final really seemingly long hairpin before you head back to the start finish line.
So basically, 1st is only going to be for you to get going and you probably won't drop below 2nd during the race unless you taking a really super tight corner like if you need to do a 180 spin.
Now when you get these lower gears right, you could set up 1-5 as normal and use 6th as an overdrive gear (see the stock gear configuration of the GR86) but don't make 6th so long that the car bogs. Check your power and torque curves and see where the torque really kicks up (assuming you have a turbo motor being an A Class Fiesta) and make that overdrive gear kick in from that RPM when you shift into it.
The other things to be aware of is being a FWD car; when you apply throttle, you may get tons of understeer so set your diff Accel % to fully lock. Alongside that, use a combination of ARB settings and Camber to get the load to shift quickly and the rear must swing free through a corner while you're on throttle. I'm not sure what tyre sizes you have but a stiffer front ARB with... Maybe -1 camber on the front and a "stiff enough" rear ARB with maybe -0.1 to -0.4 camber on the rear would help achieve this.
Something that I wanted to go over at a later stage but I will tell you right now is your ARB is actually linked to your Camber. The stiffer the ARB, the quicker the tyre goes from negative camber to neutral or maybe even positive depending what you want and depending on how fast that happens, the quicker the load transfers.
With a car like this, you could aim for quick load transfer going into corners and because it's FWD, you floor the crap out of it to straighten up and shoot out from corners... The quicker you can get your car to face the exit, the quicker you will run. Research "Four Wheel Drifting" and see how you could implement that into the build.
Let me know how it goes😁
Gear tuning is easy asf. I just tune towards a track. I match up the same gears on each car.
NOT THE NUMBERS but where a gear ends of specific corners
This is absolutely correct and what I was trying to tell everyone in the video. The numbers don't matter as much as compared to what speed/rev each gear can give you. Very good strat for rivals as well👌🏼
I do this alot myself for Assetto Corsa
I have no clue what the fk you said
The music too loud?
@@racingreaperofficial no it's not the music it's my lack of knowledge I think
Ah tell me which part you don't get and I can maybe explain it better 👀
@@racingreaperofficialI didn't get anything tbh, but could u explain simply how to tune my gear (don't go too advanced because idk what most of these words mean)
The basics of tuning your gears should be for:
1. Making full use of your top speed. You don't want to be in 6th (example as your final gear) and you doing 180mph at 5500RPM but you can still rev up to 7500RPM. For this, you would adjust final drive. For the most part, you can get away by just changing final drive.
2. Make good use of your engine in the sense that when you change gears like 1st to 2nd, the engine must not die down and struggle to accelerate again. The acceleration must just keep coming. For this, you can adjust each individual gear.
3. To help with understanding each individual gear better, you want to set your gears up to work with the rhythm of the various tracks and types of corners. For me personally; I like to take hairpins in 2nd, 90 degree corners in 3rd and so on. You basically want to be taking each corner as fast as you can and carry as much speed as possible but you also don't want to be at redline going through the corner because you need room to accelerate when you exit the corner.
That about sums up the basics 🤔
For keeping traction, I would say it's best for you to work with refined throttle control (technique can beat car setup).
For your engine losing power and the acceleration dying at top end, you can shorten final drive just a touch to let the car reach top end faster