The End Of The World: What You Need To Know
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- What does everyone need to know about what the Bible says about the "End of the World"? Watch this powerful message from Pastor Jeff Durbin at the recent Bahnsen Conference in California. Jeff spoke on the story that the Bible teaches about where history is going. In light of popular modern views, the answers might surprise and excite you!
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You nutjobs need to stop with this end times nonsense.
Jesus as a failed apocalyptic prophet is the general consensus of critical scholarship, even critical Christian scholars like Dale Allison. The Son of Man (Jesus himself?) was supposed to be an end of the world arbiter, as Bart Ehrman points out in his lecture referenced below, and as the Bible states he was supposed to come *within the lifetime* of Jesus’s followers. *It didn't happen.*
Read the article from the former Christian apologist and Tim O'Neill (former Christian), who has been studying the scholarship and history for decades, referenced below as well.
*Jesus falsely prophesied his return in the 1st century*
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; ***and then he shall reward every man according to his works.***
Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here will not taste death*** before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom Matthew 16:27-28
Truly I tell you, ***some who are standing here*** will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God Luke 9:27
Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Mark 13:30
The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.
Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Matthew 24:29-34
There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. When you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.
Truly I tell you, ***this generation will certainly not pass away*** until all these things have happened Luke 21:25-32
*Jesus promised to return over 2, 000 years ago and he still hasn’t.*
Jesus and the angels never appeared from Heaven, the stars never fell from the sky, none of these things happened. Nothing he prophesied happened.
***Apologists can try to spin this, but the simple fact is that Jesus was either wrong or misquoted.***
According to the Bible that makes Jesus a false prophet or misquoted (and if Jesus is misquoted than the Bible is not inerrant or the word of God)
How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken Deuteronomy 18:21-22
*Jesus falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin*
Jesus also falsely prophesied to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (assemblies of either twenty-three or seventy-one rabbis appointed to sit as a tribunal)
You will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and ***coming on the clouds of heaven*** Matthew 26:64 Mark 14:62
Except the high priest and the Sanhedrin never saw Jesus sitting at the right hand side of God, or coming on the clouds of heaven, or any such thing.
*Jesus falsely prophesied to Nathaniel*
Jesus also falsely prophesied to Nathanael when he declared, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the king of Israel.”
Jesus said, You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You will see greater things than that. He then added, ***“Very truly I tell you, you will see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man*** John 1:50-51
*Nathanael never saw any such thing. Neither did anyone else.*
The following quote from Stephen L. Harris, Professor Emeritus of Humanities and Religious Studies at California State University- Sacramento, completes this point with a devastating argument.
*Jesus did not accomplish what Israel’s prophets said the Messiah was commissioned to do:* He did not deliver the covenant people from their Gentile enemies, reassemble those scattered in the Diaspora, restore the Davidic kingdom, or establish universal peace (cf.Isa. 9:6-7; 11:7-12:16, etc.). Instead of freeing Jews from oppressors and thereby fulfilling God’s ancient promises-for land, nationhood, kingship, and blessing- *Jesus died a “shameful” death, defeated by the very political powers the Messiah was prophesied to overcome.* Indeed, the Hebrew prophets did not foresee that Israel’s savior would be executed as a common criminal by Gentiles, *making Jesus’ crucifixion a “stumbling block” to scripturally literate Jews.* (1 Cor.1:23)
Watch *Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet, Historical Lecture - Bart D. Ehrman*
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Also, look up the following.
*"End Times - Evil Bible .com"*
*"The End of All Things is At Hand - The Church Of Truth"*
*"ex-apologist: On One of the Main Reasons Why I Think Christianity is False (Reposted)"*
*"Jesus the Apocalyptic Prophet - History for Atheists"*
(Tim O'Neill is a former Christian and is familiar with most of the Biblical scholarship. He's been studying the scholarship and history for decades)
*"Jesus Predicted a First Century Return Which Did Not Occur - by Alex Beyman - Medium"*
*"Jesus’ Failed Prophecy About His Return - Black Nonbelievers, Inc."*
Kirk Cameron???? Nice guy, yes. But would I listen to him teaching the bible? Probably not. I would rather listen to the late Dr. Sproul any time. Post Mill could be true, I just don't see it happening anytime soon........and I am not a pessimist nor am I just lying around doing nothing.
G’day Apologia, reckon we could hear more talk about how we could rally our amillenial and premillennial churches? And how we should biblically go out in our immediate communities for the gospel?
@@josephkusabs46 pre mill is waiting for a third coming
Pls take time on your podcast to make clear what's to happen if not for the rapture
Hey brother I’m the one that offers people money if they tell me one Bible verse. You mentioned by videos in your sermon 😀
I always watch those and think "really? Not even one? Not even the famous ones?" Lol. I am not a new believer. But i am new to actually reading my bible like i should. And even though i dont know many by heart, i could at least do "For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Lol.. thats a "famous" one. So its always unbelievable to me that so many cant do even one. But i guess i should not be surprised. Even growing up, i had many good Christian people around me constantly. Not everyone is blessed to have that. Your videos make a good point. Its sad. But a good point.
Love your videos, I stay in the word Incase I'm approached.
Love your videos. I often wonder how much money you’d be out if you ran into Jeff on the street 😂❤
@@JakeGandara-z6d 😅 right
What are you talking about? Are you saying the verses he says aren't in the Bible?
The end times don't scare me as much as God's wrath. Thats why I side with Him over any other.
Humble people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How brainwashed are you? The ancient Hebrews had zero myths? They created Moses, Jehovah and Satan in 950 BCE. How educated are you? You merely suffer from Christian Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Andrew.
AMEN!
@@martinkent333 Humble people do not call others brain-washed.
@@jesusiskingofmyheart The Christian cult is unimaginably superior to any other cult. Who else is completely willing to die for their beliefs but never check the cult's credibility? How educated are you, Romana?
@@martinkent333 "The Christian cult is unimaginably superior to any other cult. Who else is completely willing to die for their beliefs but never check the cult's credibility? How educated are you, Romana?"
How uneducated are you? There are PhD's in every discipline who believe Christianity is the truth. James Tour and Sy Garte, Francis Collins, C.S.Lewis, John Polkinghorne, to name a FEW.
I, I, I, me, me, me. 20 minutes, generalities. preach the word. no one cares.
"let scripture speak".
Thé only way you can be post millennial is if you treat a ton of scriptures as an allegory.
If you take the bible seriously and the interpretation more literally there’s no escaping the biblical truth that we are
Premillennial. You glazed over most passages that seriously say the opposite of what you are asserting. I agree we should be fighting not sitting with our feet on the desk but that doesn’t mean the bible doesn’t teach both premillennialism and fighting for the faith. It doesn’t matter what we want the bible to say it matters what it says And if you are seriously concerned with the accuracy of the scriptures they cannot have had a full past fulfilment that’s why it’s not evident to most Christians in the past even the ones that lived through Nero. They took the bible literally and not as an allegory. Did Jesus make an end of sins? I mean you can’t be post m and agree with the bible fully.
Love your other teachings this one is disappointing and biblically misses the mark on truth with funny antedotes and appeal to the senses but no scriptural basis when you take the fullness of the text not just selected verses and ignore others. Praying for you and pray for me too good bless
Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD! God bless you.
And then rape altar boys?
Brainwash the peasants?
(The Messiah, the son of Mary, was not except a Messenger, other Messengers had gone before him. His mother was in the state of sincerity, they both ate food. See how We make plain to them Our signs. Then, see how perverted they are ) QURAN \ MAEDA VERS 83
...to the Glory of the Father!
@@mohammedarteish7335 Not just Messiah, He said I AM the Christ. *God said, "This is my SON, in him I AM well **_Pleased,_** hear him!"* You didn't say it, Mohammed didn't say it, GOD HIMSELF SAID IT! And they all there heard him say so....
Revelation 21:1-3
King James Version
21 And I saw a NEW heaven and a NEW earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
Today I was looking for a sign. Whether to become a pastor and live a missionary life. Then I came across (by accident) Paster Jeffs sermon from years back about the Good News with the saved baby at the end. How are my only after seeing this today? Thank you so much Pastor Jeff. Im ready for that life. I need to pray but with prayer I'll get the strength I need to be willing to die. For real. Man you changed my life. Thank you. I commented on the original video from 8 years ago too. I'm from Ireland. Mostly Catholic. But I'm going to become born again and become a pastor. If your're ever in Ireland let me know.
The Christian cult has a happy cult handbook with TALKING ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!! It must be fun to think those ancient Hebrew myths are real. That the Bible is real. How educated are you, Stephen?
Ignore the Martin dude. He’s just a tool of the enemy. March on soldier, march on.
Praise God, all the angels rejoice for you.
Pray a lot about that. And make sure there is no doubt in whatever you choose. God bless.
I really enjoy Jeff and look forward to meeting him one day on the other side but I respectfully disagree. There a lots of reasons to not take the vantage point but I can't see any possible way to reconcile the apostacy and Revelation 19 & 20 with postmillenialism. Satan was given the keys to the castle on this rock. He's not going anywhere without a battle. But as I learned lately, debate doesn't mean division. And ultimately, no we are not losing, it's our goal to encourage others to come to that message as well. Bless you all and glory to our King. Looking forward to that blessed hope but not worrying about tomorrow, tomorrow will worry about itself, there's enough to consider today.
Amen, although I do see some that arrogantly defend their position I am glad to see the ability to debate both doctrines without hold any animosity towards our neighbors.
NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Phil. How educated are you?
@@DEPTRON7 Cults are fun, eh?
@@DEPTRON7 Mumbo Jumbo good - Tarzan! Umgowa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@martinkent333 degreed engineer with a heavy background of science and math to start and now the owner of a sales based business who has enough exposure to the state of mankind to understand how misguided many are. There are plenty of historical recounts of the events of scripture outside of the gospels and a vast amount of science to make a stronger case for God than random existence. Curious, what foundation do you make your claim of fiction on? It's likely a personal choice to avoid accountability as many like to do. What is it about faith and God that is so intolerable. You can blame it on bad religious people if you'd like, I can understand how many see the bad actors and reach that conclusion, but if you listen to those who act like followers of Christ, you'll see people who love you regardless of your position and just want for you for nothing more than for your benefit. I receive no gain out of trying to "convince" you out of your opinion than a hope that you see the light of Christ. I'm not trying to win an argument or feel better about myself. I pray that you find peace and stop fighting against the one who is knocking at your door. Lord bless you.
This was great. But how does he explain 2nd thessalonians man of lawlessness?
Matthew 24:40-42
Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. God bless us and Philippine Spiritual revival or born again philippines is coming so very, very near in my nation Philippines in Jesus Christ Holy, mighty and powerful name I pray Amen.
12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the [d]Beginning and the End, the First and the Last
This is heretical...
YOU ARE PREACHING ANOTHER JESUS
Jeff, you failed to deal with any precursors to the second coming found in 2 Thessalonians 1 & 2 & Rev. 19. I would like to see you debate Alan Kurschner or Brock David Hollett regarding the Antichrist/MOL, Matt. 24, 2 Thess. 2, and Rev. 6-22.
I imagine it’s hard to pack everything into a little over an hour. He has a whole sermon series on this subject and it’s deep. Just search his name and Revelation. You should be able to find it fairly easily.
There's something about pessimism and defeatism that appeals to us, perhaps because we live in an age of cynicism. The postmil position is just too good to be true, as is the Gospel.
Yes! The holy Spirit brought me to the same realization when I was reading the book of Revelation over and over, almost word-for-word the exact same realization..."this already happened"......
I meet pastor Jeff at the SBC convention in Anaheim last June. I told him that through his preaching he convinced me of the post-mil view of eschatology. He said, "Praise God. Now let's get to work." I can verify that his closing statement is 100% true. lol. Thank you Pastor.
I have a really hard time believing we are in the Millennium because things are supposed to get better under that line of thinking. All you have to do is look around to see that isn't so.
@@rcs2749 good point. I bet he has never even considered that or dealt with that exact criticism 🙄
Jeff thinks in 500 year increments not by generation to generation.
@@rcs2749
The post Millennial view requires the Church to have dominion over the Earth before Christ returns. That isn't what we see happening. In Chapter 19, Jesus returns during global war and chaos. The thousand years of peace require Christ to come before, not after. Jeff is not unlike many other Calvinists whose eschatology is seriously flawed.
@@rcs2749 do you believe that about your own salvation? The Christian is not sanctified immediately upon their salvation, sometimes we stumble and sometimes we stumble hard. This stumbling does not mean we are unsaved. To look at all of history and claim the trend is not upwards in favor of Christ is absurd. The church was virtually non-existent and now it spreads around the globe. Jeff dealt with your concern in this sermon.
My question is what does Jesus mean by speaking of his return in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13, Luke 21. And 2nd Timothy 3 speaks of the last days as times of difficulty and how people will be just as they are now. And Paul speaks of it as in future context. And Revelation speaks of the wrath to come and the war of Armageddon. The Anti-Christ is clearly spoken of . That day will not come until the falling away. Which is very clearly happening 🤔. I will seriously pray over this. But as of right now I must be honest I feel the Bible very clearly and obviously speaks of the last days and the wrath that comes before Jesus Christ comes to defeat the Anti-Christ. It's all just bold and in my face. I'm just being honest. I would much prefer it to be the way I'm hearing in this video. But i do not see this in scripture. I do see all being placed under His feet very clearly. But I definitely see all I've spoken of and alignment with scripture to this generation. Example , lawlessness abounding and one world religion forming and then the natural phenomenon of the Euphrates River also spoken of in the last days, in both the old and new testament. Never before has the Euphrates dried up. But now it is. Just as scripture speaks of in the last days.as well as the kings all coming together and the hook in the mouths the money changing to fit the mark of the beast system and Elon Musk's cjip in the hand and head. All things in this generation are right in our face coinciding with the scriptures concerning the last days. It's pretty coincidental that it just happens to line up perfectly at the end of the generation that saw Isreal become a nation also s0oken of in scripture concerning these times. Idk. I will pray on it. And I will seek the Lord for the truth on this. It's extremely important that we watch for He told us to stay awake ! Live holy and be prepared for His coming. God bless in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of God Who was and is and is to come! The most important thing we all xan do is preach the word in and out of season, hold fast to our faith in His promises 🙏 and live every moment knowing that He is right here with us knowing not only our words and actions but the very thoughts in our hearts. Be blessed. Jesus is Lord!
Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
2 Peter 3:3-18 NASB1995
bible.com/bible/100/2pe.3.3-18.NASB1995
I believe Jeff and those who follow this teaching are fulfilling this Scripture. This is a sad state for those who mock God's promises.
The way he preaches I feel he has a message for each of us, in something shared. I really enjoy his ministry!
You suffer from Christian Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Cupcake. NORMAL people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Rube. How educated are you?
@@martinkent333 2 Peter 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
You clearly believe in the bible and in Jesus Christ, otherwise you wouldn't be here mocking the word of God. I will pray for you that you eyes might be opened. God bless!
@@brotherinchrist72 Kids, we have a brainwashed cult member who is smug, self-righteous and superior. He likes naked altar boys and walks in the park! After 20 centuries of cosmic silliness, he thinks that the internet is a toy, not a service that helps those who suffer from ignorance and cults like Christianity. He is a winner! Rube, normal people have no problem with sleazy Christian hustlers who brainwash you every Sunday. They laugh at this unimaginable slime and giggle when you bow your head before meals in restaurants. You can't imagine that the ancient Hebrews created the myths of Moses, Jehovah and Satan in 950 BCE. Do you also believe in the Greek myths? You simply suffer from Christian Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. And paranoia. Having invisible enemies is a serious mental illness. But you look for gullible victims to enjoy paranoia and brainwashing by sleazy Christian hustlers. Do they have any education? Do you? Type Bible Criticism online and learn humility, Cupcake. Your cult is shabby and keeps the Christian teenage suicide rates up high due to your mental illness and creepy obsessiveness with brainwashing and myths. You must be very proud. Kids, never ever sit on any Christian Holy Man's lap, OK?
@@martinkent333
I will pray for you @Martin Kent, for truly you have demons in their life that you have invited into your heart. This is the anti-christ personality we see manifest, and it is a very strong grip if you allow these demons into your heart and soul.
I do not understand where your bitter hatred for the Saints come from, but I truly sorry you feel so compelled to turn away any soul from the Lord.
We will all stand before the Lord in the end and be accountable for our lives, and will either be rewarded with eternal glory and eternal life, or suffer eternal damnation in the lake of fire.
I truly do pray you will find the light of Christ and turn from these dark thoughts and evils you are going through. May the Lord help you find your way out of this sinful bondage. God Bless!
@@brotherinchrist72 Your mental illness of paranoia is fun? Creepy people like you are happy to be the creepiest of all the creepy cults. Does this attract converts? Having invisible enemies is a delightful way to the funny farm. You must be proud. Do you ever wonder why folks laugh at you and your delusions and mental illness? It's not too crazy to imagine mental health and zero cults. But you suffer from Christian Obsesive Compulsive Disorder. 20 centuries of cosmic silliness consumed you, Rube. You should write the military about Satan and the Anti-Christ. I'm sure they will be delighted to receive your letter. Don't delay! Write them today, Cupcake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Bible does not teach Postmillennialism
In 2 Timothy 3:1-7, Paul describes the last days as “terrible times.”
Those who hold to postmillennialism use a non-literal method of interpreting unfulfilled prophecy, often interpreting prophetic passages allegorically. The problem with this is that when the normal meaning of a passage is abandoned, its meaning can become entirely subjective. All objectivity concerning the meaning of words is lost. When words lose their meaning, communication ceases. However, this is not how God has intended for language and communication to be. God communicates to us through His written word, with objective meanings to words, so that ideas and thoughts can be communicated.
A normal, literal interpretation of Scripture rejects postmillennialism and holds to a normal interpretation of all Scripture, including unfulfilled prophecy. We have hundreds of examples in Scripture of prophecies being fulfilled. Take, for example, the prophecies concerning Christ in the Old Testament. Those prophecies were fulfilled literally. Consider the virgin birth of Christ (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23). Consider His death for our sins (Isaiah 53:4-9; 1 Peter 2:24). These prophecies were fulfilled literally, and that is reason enough to assume that God will continue in the future to literally fulfill His Word. Postmillennialism fails in that it interprets Bible prophecy subjectively and holds that the millennial kingdom will be established by the church, not by Christ Himself.
Respectfully, you don’t understand postmillennialism. Postmillennialism does account for all the prophecies. Matter of fact, postmillennialism says they have already been fulfilled. The “end times” in the postmillennialism view was in the first century when Christian’s were being murdered by the government. That sounds like “terrible times” to me.
Jeff Durbin Don Preston has been wanting to debate you on this topic? Would you be willing to discuss it?
Don’t think so. Postmill is close to the truth but can’t handle the full truth of full preterism.
Trying to understand the logic of post -mel but... he "shall" have dominion? That sounds like the future ie not complete. Our salvation relies on Christ but the kingdom depends on our works? The argument that the world is less evil now just doesn't do it for me. I am so greatful for God and if he thinks the world should be like this I'd accept that completely but that's not what I see in his text. I guess we will agree to disagree on this one.
Hebrews2:5KJV"For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the WORLD TO COME, whereof we speak."
Clearly our brother Paul did not think that the promised millennium had begun.
1Corinthians4:8KJV"Now ye are full, now ye are rich, ye have reigned as kings without us: and I would to God ye did reign, that we also might reign with you."
Our brother Paul rebukes those who were behaving as if the millennium had already begun.
Daniel2:44KJV"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever"
Revelation2:27KJV"27And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father."
The millennium begins only after the total destruction of the present political entities and their enablers by JEHOVAH'S Heavenly armies.
This had me straight grinning at work. Ready to shout! Whoo hoo! Let's go get them!
Humble yourself and type Bible criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Travis?
@@martinkent333 No thanks. Take care, sir.
Even if I fall and struggle, or may not understand scripture (fully anyway) I will always choose Christ
What a cute CGI globe on the thumbnail pic. Amazing how many Christians are intellectually dishonest about where we live and what God's Word says. Earth is not a spinning water ball next to the perfect vacuum of space that magically does not instantly suck all the gasses off our "planet" (definition: to deceive) into "space". Time to be honest about this topic Jeff and have Biblical Cosmology properly represented and not mocked by your immature guests.
Truth^ I can’t find one who will cover this topic. Closest I’ve seen is Pastor Kim touch on it briefly during discipleship class drawing out the days of creation.
There are also some very dangerous things to this type of teaching to watch out for. Not even slightly convinced this is the correct eschatology. But do agree its good to think through what we believe about end times. I do like Pastor Jeff Durbin though.😀
are you dispensationalist? If so, I think you should re-evaluate your view based on the fact that it doesn't show up in history until 1830.
God has different covenants with different people/groups over time. Abraham wasn’t held to the law. Adam didn’t have the same promises as Abraham. The church has a different purpose too. Gods character and his agreements are 2 different things
@@Golfinthefamily The early church fathers always taught the church would go through the tribulation and Christ would return on the last day to gather us to him on the last day. Its not a view based on the 1830.
@@uno23437
Really? I would love to see
Anything you have from the first 500 years of early church fathers.
@@Golfinthefamily The reformation wasn’t until 1500 years after Christ’s death, so that’s not a great argument. You have to literally believe when Revelation says 1000 years it does not mean what it says.
I see 1 massive hole is this eschatology.
The sign of His appearing is not the salvation of the nations.
Matthew 24:14 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
The gospel reaching the nations is the sign, not the actual salvation of the nations.
The salvation of the nations seems to happen after His return and when Satan is put away.
Other than that, no one argues that He is reigning now and that the kingdom is now.
He is coming when the gospel reaches the nations because of righteous justice.
Agreed, but Jesus IS reaching "the nations" (ethnos) NOW!
That's the purpose of the Millenial Reign!
In the OT God gave His word to the Jews ONLY (see Psalm 147:19-20)
Although there were a few gentile converts, God purposely:
>Overlooked the ignorance of the gentiles regarding Him (Acts 17:30)
>Allowed them to go "their own way" (the natural bent of man IN ADAM (see Hebrews 8:8-9)
Which is why Paul said at THAT time, gentiles were "without hope and without God in the world." (Ephesians 2)
Satan had taken gentiles captive (2 Timothy 2:26, Isaiah 49:25 (Read ALL of Isaiah 49 where "The servant, ISRAEL" (Jesus) brings back Jacob (national Israel) AND gentiles)
But when Jesus came "The people walking in DARKNESS saw a great LIGHT" (Isaiah 9:2)
The light of the GOSPEL by which Jesus had come to "set the captives free" (Luke 4)
See also 2 Corinthians 4:4-6 (Satan has blinded minds, but God's LIGHT shines into hearts to free them)
THIS is the fulfillment of the "mystery not revealed in times past..that gentiles were fellow heirs with Israel" (Ephesians 3)
THIS is the fulfillment of Revelation 20, where Satan is bound *SO THAT* (for the purpose of) he could deceive the gentiles no longer, UNTIL the thousand years were ended..............
THIS is the "binding of the strong man" (Matthew 12)
Jesus IS plundering his house!
But once Jesus has removed ALL of HIS sheep, wheat, elect from the world, THEN Satan will be released again "for a little while"
to do what?
Answer: to deceive the NATIONS (ethnose/gentiles) again!
This conincides with the great falling away (2 Thessalonians)
What Post Mils do not understand is that the earth getting more wicked and evil men "waxing worse AND WORSE" (not better and better) is that this does NOT equate to "Failure" of Jesus, The Gospel and/or The Church!
God's Kingdom IS being built in THE HEAVENLIES! (Ephesians 2:6)
God's people ARE being "delivered out of the kingdom of darkness and into the Kingdom of Jesus" (Colossians 1:13)
God's people HAVE COME (NOW) to "the heavenly Jerusalem" (Hebrews 12:22) who is "The mother of us all" (Galatians 4)
Even though it appears we are defeated, losers on the OUTSIDE (earthly perspective) (2 Corinthians 4:16)
Yet, "In ALL these things we ARE (not will be ) MORE THAN Conquerers" (Romans 8:37)
This is counterintuitive pattern of ALL God's people throughout the bible!
WHY?
Because God's power is PERFECTED in our weakness, not in our earthly sucess and a world transformed by the Gospel!
WE are the ones who are transformed and made new, not the world. At least not this PRESENT world, which is what Post Mils teach.
Look at the faithful saints in Hebrews 11:
37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, *DESTITUTE, PERSECUTED AND MISTREATED*
NOTICE: This descrption is from an EARTHLY perspective!
But HERE is how GOD SEES these "losers" or "failures."
38 *THE WORLD WAS NOT WORTHY OF THEM*
They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
39 These were all commended for their faith, yet *none of them received what had been promised*
40 since God had planned something better for us so that *only together with us would they be made perfect*
And when will we ALL be "made perfect?"
ie, our BODIES will be changed and the WICKED will be destroyed *AND THEN THE EARTH WILL BE RENEWED!*
But THIS WORLD will NOT be renewed and made better until the very end AFTER Jesus' return!
The GOSPEL IS already successful, having saved those whom God has chosen OUT Of this world!
We ARE SEATED in the heavenlies!
The "enemies" Jesus came to defeat are SIN AND DEATH (Luke 1:76-79, Hebrews 2:15)
This is why when the Jews expected Jesus to defeat their EARTHLY enemies (Romans) He did not, but said "My Kingdom is NOT of this world, if it were, my servants would fight!" The battle and the enemies are SPIRITUAL! (Ephesians 6:12)
And Jesus IS defeating His enemies (sin and death) every time another "captive" is taken from darkness and transferred into the light!
Remember in the OT God drowned the EARTHLY enemies of Israel in the sea.
But look at Micah's prophecy of the ULTIMATE enemy of the people of God:
"He will again have compassion on us, And will subdue our iniquities.
*YOU WILL CAST ALL OUR SINS* Into the depths of the sea. - Micah 7:19
Post Mils and Pre Mil Dispensationalists make a similar error:
Pre Mils claim that Amils interpret scripture "spiritually" while they interpret the bible "literally."
But this is a false dichotomy.
Read 1 Corinthians 15: Adam was the EARTHLY (natural) man, Jesus is the HEAVENLY (Spiritual) man!
"However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual." (v46)
Old Covenant: Eartly/Natural Israel "after the flesh."
New Covenant: Israel OF GOD (Galatians 6:16) who are of the faith of Abraham (Jew AND Gentile) (Galatians 3)
Old Covenant: Earthly/Natural Jerusalem (which is IN BONDAGE) (Galatians 4)
New Covenant: Heavenly Jerusalem (Hebrews 12:22) "The mother of us all" (Galatians 4) (we were BORN into her!)
Dispensationalists have Jesus reigning on THIS present earth AFTER He returns.
Post Mils have Jesus reigning on THIS present earth BEFORE He returnes.
Jesus IS reigning NOW, by THE GOSPEL!
And you will NOT be seen by an outward, earthly "transformation of the nations."
"“The kingdom of God *does not come with observation*
.................*For indeed, the kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU*
The importance of eschatology is this;
We must study and get our eschatology correct, because, God declares the end from the beginning. Therefore, if we have an incorrect understanding of the end, then, we will have an incoherent understanding of the beginning/middle/end.
The ancient Hebrews created Moses, Jehovah and Satan in 950 BCE. How brainwashed are you?
It is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE. IMPOSSIBLE to attempt to teach eschatology absent of Matthew 24, Thesalonians, Revelation, and many others.
Any theology can not be true if you first have to ignore large swaths of scripture and entire books to make it true.
Not once did he tell us IN DETAIL where all the events of biblical end tines fit into his theology.
And any attempt to add or TAKE AWAY from scripture is punishable by death according to the word.
I'm not sure what his or orhers like him end goal is. But please do your homework. This teaching is false.
God Bless
Hey Pastor Jeff, to borrow a line from Dr. White, what would you do with Rev 20:3 "...After that (the 1000 years) he (Satan) must be released for a little while (or short season in some translations)." Or Revelation 20:7-10 "7 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9 And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, 10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
Satan's short season? Loosed to deceive the nations. What does deceiving the nations look like? What if the "going and getting the world" happened say in the first 500 years after the Great Commission was given and then perhaps He returned, resurrected the saints and reigned with them for a thousand years. Would deceiving the nations necessarily mean hiding resurrected saints reigning with Him here on earth? Could we be in this period of history, right before the final defeat of Satan and death, Satan's short season? Perhaps we are in for some major boomerangs soon? What does Satan loosed mean from a Postmillennial view? I too am Postmillennial and am pondering on these verses. What are your thoughts?
The Millennium was from the cross to AD70 destruction of Jerusalem. Romans 16:20 Paul says that satan would be bruised (syntribo, to crush completely, to shatter break in pieces) under their feet shortly.
Hebrews 3:7-15 gives some insight to Gods use of timing, ll Peter 3:8 also uses this language as a clue to the millennium 1000 years as a day, in the day = 40 years.
@@philiptweet5970 Not even close, the Millennium is a thousand year reign not 40 years. lol
Revelation 20:4-6
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
I wonder about this too. Much of the history we are taught does not add up. Maybe it’s been edited, the milennial reign has been, and we are in that short season post milennial reign where Satan is released to deceive the nations once more before the gog and Magog battle where Satan gathers the armies of the world to surround the camp of the saints; and then Jesus final return occurs, where He destroys by the breath of His mouth, then Great White Throne Judgement, then New Jerusalem…
Postmillennialism isn't a theology of hope, but a shallow dream that is going to leave Christians terrible unprepared for the dark days coming. Jesus said " Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8
I love your love for the biblical truth and your love for Jesus 🙏🏼 God bless you brother and your ministry, love from England 🏴.
Sweet
1- Iron sharpens Iron
Hidden Message in the
Torah /Tanak / Bible
Hidden within your genealogy from the first Sons from Adam. In the First Five Chapters of the Torah / Tanak / Bible
🤔 Genesis 5 : 3-32
How could anyone put something in a book all most 6000 thousand years ago and 4 k years before it Happened .
And it still exists today.
Son of a son , son of a son , son of a son , 10 times.
Most would say Impossible
It is The TRUTH
NAMES ---- Name
MEANINGS
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enos - Mortal
Cainan - Sarrow
Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD
Jared - Shall come Down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah -His Death shall
Bring
Lamech -To Make /Low
Mighity
Noah -Rest / Favor /
Fulfilled
Name Meanings written in a
Sentence 😳
Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down
teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED
My Interpretation:
Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔
Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲
Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God
Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened
Who is He ?
Choose you this day whom you
SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇
Jesus Loves you
Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
You are born in the Sprit
BORN AGAN
Rapture any Second
It is not Death , It is a New Life
In Heaven
I’m pre mil, but I appreciate Jeff’s perspective even though I disagree.
How dare you doubt a sleazy Christian hustler? REPENT!! REPENT!! Biggles............. fetch the comfy cushions.............
I was too. Then Amill, now Postmill 😅
@@sc6530 yeah, I’m pretty Strong when it comes to my end time eschatology, I still listen to Jeff though. I really like Dr Michael brown too.
@@benprestridge6787 totally agree, Jeff is so smart I don’t understand how he’s a Calvinist and a sensationalist (I’m pretty sure he is) and post mil😭 but love I mean LOVE his evangelist videos and his arguments.
@@alwayslia2986 why would you still be a pre mill?
This is kingdom now theology. It’s in unbiblical and I’m surprised and disappointed to hear this from Jeff.
This has the potential to cause some...Z E S T in the comments section
Watching crazy Christian RUclips Videos is a wonderful way to show how potty you are.
Wrong; do we redeem the world or Jesus? Already, but not yet. Paul deals with this in Thessalonians.
8For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9(for the fruit of the [b]Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather [c]expose them. 12For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. 13But all things that are [d]exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14Therefore He says:
20But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. 21And they did not repent of their murders or their [f]sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
Love your zeal for the Lord brother.
Q: how do you answer the verses that speak throughout scripture of evil waxing worse in the end days, the earth will groan in birth pains and so on?
Asking genuinely, thanks
He would say it all ended in AD 70... now the kingdom grows.
@@Golfinthefamily if that's true that would mean we are in the millennium rein now?
@@CarpentersMinistry1 Correct, Jesus is on the Davidic throne now (1 Cor 15)
@@Golfinthefamily I see no evidence of the Kingdom growing but the love of many waxing cold. And children becoming defiant to truth and parental roles. What we are seeing right now is the spirit of the anti-Christ being poured out across the planet. With every form of evil exploding across the globe.
@@CarpentersMinistry1 Yes... there isn't a literal 1000 years... it just means a lot of time... like the cattle on a thousand hills, and a thousand years is like a day... it just means a lot. Christ currently sits at the right hand of the father. He has been given all authority over heaven and earth. So yes... he is reigning. He has tasked his people with bringing all of the world into submission to his kingdom.
maybe i missed something, but his argument is mainly based on 1 co 15, where he reads that the Lord is reigning now. in which case, the context says different.
paul writes this sequence: 1st the resurrection of Jesus, 2nd the resurrection of his servants, and 3rd Jesus delivering the Kingdom to the Father after supressing every principality, authority and power. then paul elaborates the 3rd point: Jesus must put all enemies under his feet, being the last enemy death.
and that's exactly what's shown in revelation: he appears in heaven as a slain lamb (his resurrection), then he sends for his bride (resurrection of his servants), then he defeats the beast and the false prophet, then he reigns a thousand years with his servants, then he defeats satan, death and hades (supression of all his enemies), then he and the Father reign as one in the new jerusalem (he delivers the kingdom to the Father).
so, what am i missing? because postmil doesn't make sense in this context.
Why is the seven day wedding celebration between Jacob ( thus Jesus) and Rachel the beloved bride( the church) in Genesis 29:16-30, ignored as a pre picture , a foreshadowing, a hiding away of the church with the Groom, Jesus, so overlooked by strong biblical scholars?😢 Charles Spurgeon said. “ Jesus, to win Thyself so fair, Thy cross I will with gladness bear: Since so the rules of heaven ordain, The first I’ll wed , the next to gain.” It’s a perfect picture of the church in heaven with her groom, Jesus, for seven years.
@@SueSkuya-og7lg duuude, if indeed this is a shadow and type of Jesus and the church, it works in a completely different way than you propose: the deceiver kept the desired bride from the groom for seven years! xD
So instead of beleiving Israel's future restoration as promised multiple times in scripture. You just replace them with the Church? Hmm, what a shame. Regardless whose right, we'll all be proven correctly at Christ's return, unless you don't believe in that.
Agreed.
So do we just ignore God’s outstanding promises to Israel?
The land covenant?
The one-way covenant with Abraham?
I’ve found that brothers often assume too much or fail to accurately construct the Biblical view that Israel has a purpose and destiny. To them, It seems too complicated and seems like it’s messing with grace or something.
We don’t “replace” them with the church. The church is the true Israel, it’s actually expansion theology not replacement. True Israel has always been those who had faith in God.
Many PostMills believe there will be a large in-gathering of ethnic Jews at some point (Romans 11). They’ll be grafted back into the ONE tree that they were cut off from.
@@Jilly85 exactly. It just only proves that our God is a covenant keeping God. God keeps ALL of His promises. ALL. God bless you brother.
@@sarahd5341 this is still replacement theology. For example, have you studied "the day of the Lord"? The book of Zephaniah covers it in great detail. It's in Joel, Isaiah, Amos as well as 2 Thessalonians 5. PostMills just jump ahead and say all these things have already happened. The reason for this catastrophic world Judgement is to bring back Israel to God. Israel. Replacement Theology is quick to take the blessings of Israel but none of the punishments. After this fateful day, ALL of Israel is saved. The surviving remnant. God will judge the nations and destroy all those who stand against Him. Nowhere in scripture does it say that we will be able to evangelize the whole world and then Christ returns. No Christ Himself states that He will not return until Israel repents and states "blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord". God bless you and I wish you do the homework. There is just far too much that has not happened.
Jeff how would you explain psalm 2:1-12, isaiah 2:2-4, daniel 2:44-45, issaiah 11:6-12, amos 9: 11-15, micah 4:1-3. You should go back to premillennialist, its the only view that matches scripture.
Zechariah 14: 1-21
@@lrjd3 there is no biblical grounds for an indefinite 69th week of Daniel. Are there more signs to come for the second coming or could it come without any more? During the millennial reign on earth Jesus will allow 2/3 of the jews to be massacred? These are falsities. And, if you are a dispensationalist, you follow an 1830's huckster ultimately... no view of the church being a parenthesis in history before 1830.
@@Golfinthefamily im a premillennialism, all im saying his i believe there will be a rapture then tribulation then a second coming millennium reign. Jesus will come back to get his elect then he will return with us and he reign.
Jeff Durbin is never going to see your comment. If you want the postmil interpretations of those passages you'll have to actually go look. It's not hard info to find. But will you actually look for the info or were you just pretending to ask a question in a place where you knew Jeff wouldn't actually see it? In other words did you actually want to know the postmil interpretations of those passages or not?
@@firstnamelastname2552 i want to know the post mill of those scriptures. I see pre mill when i read those scriptures. I never heard of post mill or amill until this video. Jeff is one of my favorite pastors and he knows the bible well. I just cant make sense of the post mill. Im wondering how someone like him who knows the bible probably better then me could believe in post mill when the bible teaches pre mill plain as day. Ive dont a little research and idk where post mill and amill is coming from.
Jeff you were made for people like me, Amen ❤️
Well I won’t be listening to Jeff anymore. If we are living in the millennium now…it sucks lol. Bye Jeff
The problem with post mill, they are substituting the time of the house of Israel being in the wilderness, for their gathering, and substituting it with our future. Big error.
there is no biblical justification for an indefinite gap between Daniel's 69th week and 70th week. Look up Gary DeMar and Greg Bahsen if you want to hear more about Post millennialism.
The church being a parenthesis in history isn't biblical. Also, are there more signs to come or could the rapture be any time? If so, there are no signs needed...it's completely contradictory.
@@Golfinthefamily I agree, parenthesis isn't biblical. Also, the rapture only applied to the house of Israel, not gentiles. This was the judgment of the 12 tribes of Israel. It occurred on September 22, AD73 when they were in the 1260-day (Rev. 12:6) wilderness for their gathering. The stick of Judah (Ezekiel 37:19) fled the temple on Thursday afternoon, April 10, AD70. The next day was their first day in the wilderness, April 11, AD70 (40th anniversary of the Lords Supper in the hebraic calendar). We add the 1259 days, we get to their last day. The stick of Joseph (Ezekiel 37:16) were their first and prepared a place for the stick of Judah. They became one stick on April 11, AD70 (Ezekiel 37:17). I used to be Post-mill, you aren't 100% there yet to be honest (there is more), but I encourage all of you to keep studying hard like you do. Definitely further along than dispensationalism, yuck, we agree on that. Take care brother, God bless.
@@soteriology400 So are you a-mil?
@@Golfinthefamily No, I have been across the entire spectrum. The word "millennium" is not in the bible and has caused massive confusion in the church. It just represents a total number, when the exact number is irrelevant. If Lord is Lord over 1000 hills, and one year there are 500 hills, the "1000" covers it. If another year there are 1270 hills, the "1000" covers it and so on and so forth. It is not a literal numeric value that is constrained at all.
@@soteriology400 I'm with you on the numerical idea. I just wanted to know where you find yourself now.
Jeff, those passages in Isaiah 42 and Isaiah 2 have already been fulfilled and are continuing to be so. They began to be fulfilled on the day of Pentecost when the kingdom was established. His law (the gospel) went forth unto all the nations and is continuing to go forth. All the nations won't literally come to Christ as you probably have imagined being the case. These passages only have their fulfillment in a spiritual kingdom, which those in the church are in. Unfortunately, when Christ comes back (as per 1 Cor. 15) the world will be like in the days of Noah (Mth 24). But He will then hand back the kingdom to the Father.
OH MY LAMBS. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels like the tide is shifting in a way that will be irreversible in years to come. God bless us all. Manna from Heaven.❤
Humble people type Bible criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, how educated are you?
@@martinkent333 you need to grow up and educate yourself with more than people skewed on your side of things and look at both sides
@@mattverville9227 Uneducated people use silliness to decide on the right cult. The 8 billion use the internet to find facts. Yawn. How educated are you, Rube?
@@martinkent333 humble people recognize they have rebelled against God so they repent and turn to Christ.
@@martinkent333 What does that even mean? The bible is one of the most historically accurate books ever written. Archaeologists use it as a roadmap for their digs. If you are going online to solidify your faith, then you will be fooled. Try reading the bible. Unlike all other fictional novels, THAT ONE will change your life!
I watched this video with an open-mind hoping to hear another perspective on eschatology but was very disappointed by this Pastors pejorative and cocky tough-guy approach. It really detracted from his message. It was unnecessary to mock those who hold other views. He could have disagreed but showed forbearance.
I sadly agree.
Absolutely powerful! One of the best sermons I have ever heard!
The kingdom was offered to the Jews by Jesus during his ministry on earth. They rejected it and therefore it has been postponed not canceled. Jesus is not reigning in Jerusalem today, but he will. God doesn't change and he cannot lie. If you think Jesus is already on this earthly throne then you are reading a different bible and to me are totally deluded.
Jason, the sad fact is, it is you who is deceived. There is no 1,000 year reign. The 1,000 years represents the time from Jesus's ministry to his return on the last day that is judgement day. It is not a literal 1,000 years.
He likes to talk about himself, doesn't he?
RP,.....Sadly, his is just another of the apostate churches false teachers.
I had to skip until minute 22 to “start” the teaching. Heard that story about him multiple times… gosh.
I don't understand where pastor Jeff is coming from, I guess I have to research and read a little more on post millennialism. When I take the book of Revelation at face value (I actually read the entire book last night) I'm forced into a pre-wrath (not pre-trib) rapture and a premillennialist position. It's just what I'm used to, I've never been taught any opposing position but I'm open to it. Does postmillennialism deny the existence of a new heaven and a new earth and that's it's all just symbolic or something? 😐
Come Lord Jesus!!
Does watching crazy Christian RUclips videos work? Attracts converts? Humble people simply type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible complete fiction, Randy. How educated are you?
Crikey, this comment section is literally full of atheists & flat earthers.
Yes, I agree. The books are endless. Thank you for recognizing this. Thank you for all you are doing. May God continue to bless you with fruit.
Pastor isn't the judgments described in Revelation and else where Justice?
My eschatology is incomplete but I edge towards post-mil. The thing I think (and I'm really asking a question here) is where do you fit the 1000 years in, there's only 2000 years since the crucifixion... and if those 1000 years are over, are we not now in the time when Satan is loosed upon the world? Or are we still in the millennium? And how do you reconcile that with the optimistic outlook?
Excellent question!!
Pretty much every postmil and amil speaker/writer/commentator I've come across will say that the 1,000 years does not describe a literal 1,000 trips around the sun, but it symbolic of a long period of time, normally the present church age. There is some debate over what exactly it symbolizes, but pretty much everything else in Rev. is symbolic so it makes sense that this round number is too
Good point. And I want to know how they fit the tribulation period with God's wrath being poured out while believers are still on the Earth. I don't think people realize what Hell on Earth is going to look like. And why God would want us to be here.
Normal people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. How educated are you, Stevy?
@@esthertrouton417 Christian brainwashing is an essential part of the Christian cult. How educated are you?
I’m not a Calvinist. But Jeff’s beard is definitely Elect
Pay attention to the end :
It’s gonna take fighting and striving and even dying . Yes , there’s hard work to do and that’s exactly what many don’t want to experience . It’s easy to say hallelujah when as a congregation we don’t get in trouble and as a pastor we don’t either but rather make a good income . I keep saying to myself : if Jesus says for his sake we’ll suffer and you see churches being loved by the very people that hate God , then as Doug would say : something is wrong with the church
Humbly , no flatter , thanks Jeff and Doug and all of you folks who encourage us with theological truth , not worldly therapeutic lies
Thanks really and The Lord be with us all , with his church
Great sermon friends . Really great
You encourage teenage Christian suicides with your paranoia. How low do you go? How educated are you, Jose? Normal people humble themselves and type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Cupcake.
Not trying to tear you down brother, I can tell you have a heart for God and his word, but even in the first 20 minutes of this it goes off the rails. It's tongue and cheek but arguing for Post-mill because "it seems better to us" is pretty much the same mistake the Jews made that prevented them from recognizing Christ at his first coming. You then transition into the excellent point that EVERY SINGLE Messianic prophecy was fulfilled literally, not one was fulfilled non-literally, to then go on and espouse a view of prophecy that can only be true if you hold a non-literal interpretation. Which compounds the issue that if we do not take a literal view of scripture we have no basis for it's interpretation, which is the entire premise of post-modernist erosion of the faith.
You must make your yes, yes, and your no, no. This guy simply is not a Christian. He does not understand the Bible and sells a different, (another) religion and a different, (another) gospel.
@@shadowbannedforspeakingtru1436 I believe Jeff is a genuine believer, but his eschatology is so far off that he does preach a gospel that we're not supposed to be proclaiming: the Gospel of the Kingdom. I've heard him on multiple occasions say that salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone for the forgiveness of sins, which makes me scratch my head why on earth he's preaching a different Gospel?? I just don't get it. It's as if he's conflating the two and can't tell the difference between them. Fortunately, bad eschatology isn't a salvation issue, but Jeff will answer for his conduct and teaching as a pastor and there's no doubt in my mind he's misleading thousands of people in the wrong direction.
Amen hallelujah and the truth will set you free Hallelujah
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is "not from the world". John 18:36
What a blessing. This sermon has really encouraged me to keep on working.
Humble people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. You watch crazy Christian RUclips videos and think that that is enough to have a clue? How educated are you? The ancient Hebrews had no myths? They created Moses, Jehovah and Satan in 950 BCE. On the high ground between three continents - a geopolitically strategic place. So now the Jews are in this place today again because they are unimaginably crazy enough to keep the Suez Canal and the Bosphorus from anarchy. Christian bottom feeders own you, yet one billion Christians are completely willing to die for their beliefs. I am here to Deprogram you because no one else loves you enough. OK?
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@@johnk77721 the kingdom of God.
(The Messiah, the son of Mary, was not except a Messenger, other Messengers had gone before him. His mother was in the state of sincerity, they both ate food. See how We make plain to them Our signs. Then, see how perverted they are ) QURAN \ MAEDA VERS 83
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I would have liked more Scripture backing up the PM perspective. PP myself.
They can't use scripture because it would debunk their viewpoint. That's why they make the claim that Revelation has been fulfilled but provide no proof that the prophecies have been completed. This is a false doctrine that preys on our desire for things to improve in a different way from those who claim days for Jesus's return. They believe we will gradually make the world better, if their world view is true the Church has done a horrific job for 2000 years and things certainly aren't getting better. Our job is to share the Gospel not fix the world's problems. Just one look at the Internet should show you that we physically cannot fix this world without Jesus coming back and handling things since we ourselves fall to sin and temptation.
I think an AMAZING conversation that should be had that would be great for the Christian world. Would to have Jeff and Amir Tsarfati or Jack Hibbs sit down and have a serious talk about this subject.
The Christian world never humbles itself and types Bible Criticism online and discovers that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. It is immune to cult exposure. How educated are you, Rube?
@@martinkent333 You don't need the Bible to prove Gods existence.
@@DownWordGames you kinda do tho. It’s his word. We ought not to throw it out to appease materialists. They presuppose their own reasoning faculties and physical laws of logic and nature are sufficient. Yet they can’t account for even those.
The Bible is clear about how to argue. It says don’t argue like the fools argue, or you be become like them.
And no, I’m not insulting people. God says in his word “the fool says in his heart “there is no God “”
@Martin Kent brain stuck? You been typing the same thing over and over and over again
100% agree he would believe in pre millennialism if he sat with Amir or Jack
It’s hard to understand what Pastor Jeff is talking about regarding there being so many more Christians in the world even today then we realize when you look at the fruit of those in your sphere of reference or even in your church and you scratch your head when they don’t pay attention in church or sing to give God praise and live lives that don’t match their profession of faith.
When you engage them in conversation to see what they really believe, you realize they don’t understand the gospel as most non-reformed people don’t and believe in works-based salvation. Some are modalists, in fact.
Maybe Pastor Jeff should keep in mind Matthew chapter 7 in that the way is very narrow to salvation.
Read through all the comments, the good, the bad and the ugly. I appreciate this message. The 'postmil' argument is ok, certainly not convincing to many like myself. Premil is caricatured from the experience of the "Left Behind" series (with a premise of pre-trib rapture its main feature), and for those like me who are premil and post-trib, a bit too much. To describe premil as a losing view verses postmil being optimistic is not worthy; both views know Jesus is Lord and King and His rule will be 'successful', or more precisely, is already successful. Apart from this, love to hear the interaction between us in the texts of God's Word, the Scriptures. Embracing my postmil and amil and premil brothers and sisters in Christ in loving obedience to our Lord.
Pastor Durbin PLEASE, Please, please answer this comment. Tell me about speaking in tongues
DB,.....Since you have not received a response, I will chime in. Speaking in tongues is a completely fake unbiblical thing to do and no actual Christian has anything to do with it. It is only done by those snared into a certain version of the churches fake christianity.
It was an authentic proof of the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit at the conception of the church, but after the Apostles passed away and the scriptures became canonized God stopped the use of speaking in tongues as a means for authentication. It wasn't gibberish like it's falsely used today in charismatic churches, but instead it was literally having the sudden ability to speak in a legitimate and known language.
@@justbenelson ,....Yes, you are correct. Speaking in tongues was done to show that this new covenant was from God and it was to go to all nations and all languages. And those who did not know a certain language all of a sudden spoke in an unknown language to them but was understood by some there with them.
When Gods word was completed and maybe even before it ceased. Anyone pretending to speak in tongues since the Bible was completed is a fake and a fraud and is only exposing that they do not belong to Jesus.
Thank you Pastor Jeff. God is real. I saw in my country to many miracles from God. The blind are open eye. The lam are walk. I saw in my practical life.
If that were true their would be no need for hospitals and doctors. Sick or injured people would just go to church and be healed.
@@dannielz6you must be a very lonely and angry person. Spending your time trolling Christian pages. I find it confusing why people who dislike something so much tend to be the most frequent viewers. You spend your time coming here to view something you don’t like seems counterintuitive. I’ll pray for you, seems like you need it.
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I'm confused, help me understand. So I listened to the message but I'm unclear on a few issues. Hoping someone could help answer a couple questions. The truth is all I'm searching for here, but I'm trying to make sense of certain passages of scripture.
1) When do the all the judgments of Revelation happen? ( Bowls, Seals, Vials)
2) When does Jesus rule from the temple in Jerusalem for 1000 years?
3) When is satan bound for 1000, then released? When does the rebellion of Revelation 20:7-9 occur?
4) When does "the mark of the beast" time frame happen?
5) When do the events of Ezekiel 38 happen?
6) When does the Angel in Revelation come down to tell all the people of the earth not to take the mark?
7) When does the gathering of the Armies of Armageddon against Jesus take place?
That was so good. Such a blessing. I don't have an idea of what I believe about the end times but what you preached makes a lot of sense. I never really liked the version that has been so prevelant. Premil? Is that the one? I get so confused about all of them and am glad I can trust God, because He has a plan and it is all under control. I just know I have work to do and disciples to make. But thank you for presenting a different view from most churches, and one that makes a lot of sense.
DG,....How can this be a blessing if you dont even know what you believe? Two churches cannot have a different view on anything. All churches are to have the exact same understanding about everything in the Bible, and the fact is not two churches do. Every church and every person in every church believes something different.
This alone tells you the entire church is apostate and does not preach the Christianity of the Bible. They all preach the false christianity of the Godless world.
@@exposingfakechristianity5556 Humble yourself and type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Rube. How educated are you? The ancient Hebrews had no myths? They created the myths of Moses, Jehovah and Satan in 950 BCE. Your ignorance is astounding and helps to keep this cult alive. You must be very proud.
@@martinkent333 ,...The Bible is the only truth the world has. Everything that goes against what the Bible states is what is 100% fiction.
Your 100% false manmade religion of scientism/atheism is what is myths and has no basis in reality. It is all 100% science fiction fantasy. Your fantasy religion takes way more faith to believe than it does to believe the truth of Gods word.
The fact is, those that reject the truth of the Bible are the religious zealots. Those that are so absolutely blinded by their ignorance that they will believe anything as long as it goes against the truth of the Bible.
Romans 1:20
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
Romans 1:28
"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
2 Peter 3:5
"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:"
2 Peter 2:12
"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;"
Jude 1:10
"But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."
@@exposingfakechristianity5556 Having invisible enemies is called paranoia. A mental illness, Cupcake. How educated are you?
I used to be a pre trib rapture believer until I realized that the great falling away will be caused by Christian’s (who believe in pre trib rapture and is a VAST majority of Christian’s today) will be disappointed when they realize they have to go through the 7 year tribulation and will then lose their faith and fall away. Jesus says ENDURE TIL THE END. The absolute end. Not almost the end. I’m not a scholar but this is my opinion, and from what I have heard from a few credible preachers. I could be wrong though since it’s a very touchy subject, but it makes sense to me. Again please don’t get upset with me. I have a teachable spirit!
AW,....The falling way happened in the time of the apostles and the entire church has been apostate from the very beginning.
There is no seven year tribulation. The tribulation also started in the time of the apostles and will continue until Jesus makes his one and only return on judgement day. The one thousand years is not a literal one thousand years, it also is the time from Jesus's ascension until his return on the last day. It is the whole new testament era/age.
Then who will be saved if the entirety has been Apostate? When did the other prophecies set before the Millennium get fulfilled?
Is this verse fulfilled since it happens as the Millennium starts?
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4-6 NASB1995
bible.com/bible/100/rev.20.4-6.NASB1995
Are we all doomed since if you are right then the first resurrection already happened meaning we are part of the second which is those whose name was not written in the Lamb's Book of Life. You must look at all Scripture and discard viewpoints that contradict Scripture. Jesus describe the way things would be before He returns, they have not been fulfilled until He is physically in our presence here on Earth.
@@travisparks9289 ,...All those God has predestined for salvation will be saved. The church does not save anyone, Jesus does.
The millennium started when Jesus returned to heaven and will continue until the last day when Jesus returns. The 1,000 years is not a literal 1,000 years. It represents the entire new testament age.
The first resurrection is when Jesus raises someone from their spiritual deadness (makes them born again). Only these that are Jesus's chosen ones that he has resurrected are not hurt by the second death which is eternal damnation.
You have everything wrong and have shown that you remain spiritually dead and blind just like all those who fill all the 100% apostate churches.
It is you who must discard everything as everything you believe is Biblically incorrect.
Alex,. Check out Joe Schimmel at Blessed Hope Chapel
@@JD-yq3dd ,...Joe S. Is not a Christianity, does not understand the Bible, and is the seller of the apostate churches false manmade antichrist gospel. The gospel of the accursed. You have been totally deceived, Repent!
I humbly disagree with some very important points that excludes some realities about God's plan and the impact the enemy have had in the human soul, first the kingdom of God has not been established but it was manifested tru Jesus Christ and now is being manifested tru His church, we are not building the kingdom of God we are manifesting the kingdom of God until Jesus Christ comes literally to reined as the angel said in acts 1:10:11 what they saw was a supernatural reality they saw Jesus Christ being lifted and ascending to heaven if HE doesn't come back with the clouds as HE left than the angels where lying, second we are not commanded to transform the world we are commanded to preach the Gospel and the Holy spirit will do His because it is HE who saves the souls, Jesus Christ is reigns in the heart of His church not the nations the nations belongs to Satan and it will be that way until a literally divine intervention when Christ will come and every eye will see Him, if you think Satan has been tide up after the resurrección than how do you explain Paul still talking about him in ephesians chapters 2 N 6, the world will not be transformed because billions will still follow Satan the Bible said it that even with all the plagues in the book of Revelation they will not repent, third the rest of God's promises towards Israel will be fulfilled in the milenial kingdom in a literal way the book of Zachariah is clear on that, in Isaiah 42 we can see the prophetic law of double N triple fulfillments Justice will only reine when this heavens and earth past away it will not be fulfilled even when Jesus Christ reined because the mortal heart will always be rebellious against God Jeremiah 17:9, if there was to be a whole world that was gonna accept Jesus Christ it would had happened already, this is not about the church being defeated is about all the souls that will be saved tru the gospel for a kingdom that is so glorious it transcends our limited mind 2 Peter says for we await new heavens and a new earth where in which justice will reined Supreme, forgive me i can't write to good in inglish i hope i wrote it in a way that can be understood, Godbless you my brothers in Christ.
Sounds to me like Jeff has never truly understood dispensationalism and therefore fell for post mil. I would love to see him debate or have a conversation with Andy Woods on this topic. Someone thumbs up this and lets make this happen!
I've thought about this exact same scenario, having Jeff and Andy Woods debate over the issue. I'm not sure if Andy would oblige it because he's said on numerous occasions that he doesn't want to give anyone antagonistic a platform to share their position. Regardless, it'd be awesome to see.
Jeff is dishonest with his presentation of the rapture and it's frustrating to watch. I commend his ability to stand up for righteousness sake, but his motivation is completely wrong. Going through life as a believer without a sense of the blessed hope must be depressing.
@@justbenelson ,....No Christian is deceived by the apostate churches false manmade rapture. Or by the Godless worlds 100% fake manmade spinning ball earth.
Agreed!
The rapture is a false teaching its not that hard to understand
Andy would lose and Andy would lose to an atheist or Bart Erhman because you can’t explain why those time stamp verses. Also Jeff has debated Jews who call Jesus a false prophets. Also Eusebius taught much the same thing. Darbism or dispensationalism is a false doctrine of demons and liars
Hey. I want to know if you agree that the timing of the rapture is indeed a salvation issue?
much respect for true worshippers of God...TY TY Lord for this channel and these pastors
Brainwashing makes this spiritual poop come alive! Humble people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Derek. How educated are you?
Still brainwashed?
keep on educating and reading because it doesn't take much studying of church history to see that they are in serious error
@@martinkent333 child predator
I would recommend you to read the Bible for yourself. Be careful who you hitch your wagon to in these last days full of deception and false teachers (as prophesied). What this person teaches is absolutely not Biblical or accurate in any way. Research John Calvin too...I don't think I would trust a guy that follows him. Follow the Bible and what God teaches, not what men who are wise in their own eyes teach. The Gospel is found in 1Cor.15:1-4.
Jeff if your gonna take out the the second most important thing to take place in a believer in Christ (second only tosalavation) life. Then Jeff tell me what happens to us then .at what timedo you think we go to heaven.? You do still hold the position of bodily resurrection . How (I meanhow do we get out of here)do we leave? After what event do we leave
Except this world WILL dissolve away according to scripture and new one will replace it. Revelation 21:1. Hardly Gnosticism pastor durbin
Does the Scripture say God is "making all things NEW" ?
Or "all NEW things"
I believe its the former.
Which indicates a Renewing of Creation, not a Replacing.
Think of the Spiritual parallel, how God Redeems us Sinners yet we don't radically change in obvious outward appearance.
I just don't get how he misses this. The need for replace theology is just sad.
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The LORD renews the fallen CREATION, he doesn't replace it.
How do you miss this ?
Just my thoughts
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of Heaven, but my Father only". Not even Jesus ?
(Matthew 24:36)
I’ve haven’t reconciled to either side since I was gifted reformed theology, the wickedness of my sin and The Sovereignty of God.
Hallelujah 🤗🕊
I have one question….
What about the new heaven and the new earth….. and the old one being consumed by fire.
Thank you and blessings 🤍🕊
To put it briefly, "the heavens and the earth" can refer symbolically to a given sociopolitical system, as in Isaiah 13:10-13. Babylon as an entity was shaken from its foundations and crumbled, not the literal stars and planet earth. When the NT uses this language, it is in reference to the old apostate Jewish system that was eventually judged (symbolized by fire) by God, and the new heavens and earth is Christ's kingdom
I highly recommend this sermon from Doug Wilson. I’ve listened to it many times and it has blessed me greatly.
ruclips.net/video/dlo32ohSaG8/видео.html
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Thank you 🤍
The flood was literal though. So what is the difference in the text between the two ? 🤍
@@hudjahulos thank you. I’ll listen to that 🤍🕊
@@stephanieblenkhorn5218 Even though a judgement event is described symbolically, the event itself is very real. Babylon was truly defeated and subjugated under the Persians. And remember that the flood didn't destroy the entire cosmos, just what was on the earth's surface
Same page as what you went through error teachings. I thank Lord for my friend who shared with me about new heaven and new earth. That part is what I got clear understand about that. Mind-blowing. Now, I am grateful for my friend who help me to understand about new heaven and new earth. Thank God!!!
Praised the Lord!
The Lord was too drunk to protect the 200,000 raped altar boys. How educated are you, Chaz?
Thank you, great service! 🙏
Christian brainwashing keeps the cult alive after 20 centuries of silliness and lies. An essential service of Christian hustlers. Your pride shines equally with your ignorance.
Who are the amazing men/authors that have written on PostMill ? I want to read them !
Greg Bahnsen, R.J. Rushdoony, Ken Gentry, Gary DeMar, David Chilton, Gary North.
@@jwtrain Thanks brother
Humble yourself and type Bible Criticism online and disover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Marky. How educated are you?
@@jwtrain Brainwashing makes the christian cult simply shine. How educated are you, Rube?
James B. Jordan, Peter Leithart
Daniel 7:27 (KJV)
27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Daniel 7:18 (KJV)
18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
Psalm 22:30-31 (KJV)
30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.
Psalm 145:10-13 (KJV)
10 All thy works shall praise thee, O LORD; and thy saints shall bless thee.
11 They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power;
12 To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom.
13 Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.
Psalm 146:5-10 (KJV)
5 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
6 Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is: which keepeth truth for ever:
7 Which executeth judgment for the oppressed: which giveth food to the hungry. The LORD looseth the prisoners:
8 The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:
9 The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.
10 The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.
Luke 1:30-33 (KJV)
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
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Luke 1:46-55 (KJV)
46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
54 He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
My first understanding about God when I became a Reborn again Christian. "Everyone is scared of the wrong thing"-Coach Shane
Cults are fun, eh?
You need to know that mandatory Sunday worship by law is coming and it’s the mark of the beast! Never go along with Sunday worship by law. The Roman Catholic Church changed the solemnity of the true biblical sabbath ( sundown Friday to sundown Saturday) to the false Sunday. Satan wants worship! That’s it. HE WANTS WORSHIP. Whether you are duped into or not. Read Exodus 20. The 10 commandments can’t be changed by man
Thankyou Pastor Jeff for convincing me to get away from the doom gloom anxiety of Premill/Dispensationalism. Question : Where would we be today had John Nelson Darby not given birth to Dispensationalism ?
Jesus said "judge a tree by its fruit" to teach us to be discerning about spiritual leaders. But I think we should also judge a doctrine by its fruit. As you point out, this "End Times" narrative left Big Eva impotent. For the most part, the modern church withdrew from the fight. Sad. But through my deep dive into the Book of Revelation, I found Apologia, Dr. White, Doug Wilson, Crosspolitic, R.C. Sproul, etc. So in the journey of eschatology I also dug into reformed theology. Looking at how the western world branches have become stunted in the Kingdom mustard tree (parable) can get very discouraging. Yet with reformed theology, we know this too is somehow in God's Sovereign plan to bring Him more glory. I'm glad I came to understand this before 2020, if you catch my drift.
Does the great flood killing all those people feel doom and gloom?
The judgement on sodom and Gomorrah?
We don’t get to choose what is true based on what sounds more positive. What facts convinced you?
Why would you call pre mill doom and gloom? I don't see it. What I do see in my life as a believer Which is about 40 years a gloom and doom culture of the wicked that will need eradicating and an Earth that needs cleansing before a new generation can begin. What do you see when you observe our societal mess. As it dive headfirst into full blown evil?
@@Jilly85 the fact that dispensationalism didn't appear anywhere in church history until 1830. The Biblical fact there is no reason to suspend the 69th week of Daniel indefinitely... that if the 1000 years millennial is literal...2/3 of the Jews living then will be slaughtered while Jesus is on earth? Lots of problems.
@@benprestridge6787 nothing. It's the daily barrage of newspaper articles screaming the sky is falling and making people want to bunker up and wait out the storm hoping to be caught up in the sky instead of building the kingdom and faithfully standing... It's a pessimistic view of the ability for the gospel to change the world.
Usually a fan of Durbin, and watched/supported him for years, but comparing Christians who hold to the literal view of Revelation and other passages of Scripture (premillennial view) vs. the figurative view of those same passages (postmillennial view) to Gnostics is going way, way too far...
Incredible sermon. So grateful for what the Lord is doing through men like Pastor Jeff, Pastor Joel and Pastor Doug.
Brainwashing is so exciting! Don't you wish it was true! Sober people actually type Bible criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction. But not you! You have faith. The ancient Hebrews created Moses and Jehovah in 950 BCE. Do you also believe in Greek myths, Snooky Pie? How educated are you?
@@martinkent333 What’s wrong with brainwashing?
@@martinkent333 please cite how you know the Hebrews invented Moses and Jehovah in 950 BC. Are you an atheist, agnostic or something else?
@@AlftraZignTriOxide The magic genie under your fingertips called the Internet, was created to solve ignorance. Type Bible Criticism online and learn humility, Alf. Or be a loser.
@@martinkent333 that's not a very scholarly citation...
Jeff I would like to thank you and your fellow pastor for helping the seals during Covid fight against the jab mandate
Thank you again - Jeff, Doug and Dr White. Thank you.
Christian hustlers love you and make you crazy. Humble people type Bible Criticism online and discover that the Holy Bible is complete fiction, Brendan. How educated are you?
Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
2 Peter 3:3-18 NASB1995
bible.com/bible/100/2pe.3.3-18.NASB1995
I believe Jeff and those who follow this teaching are fulfilling this Scripture. This is a sad state for those who mock God's promises.
I disagree with Jeff but I do not believe he is a heretic
Where does the defeat (change defeat to sent to hell, locked up forever, etc - understand that Christ defeated Satan on the cross) of satan fit into this view before or after the entire world is saved?
How does Matthew, Thessalonians, Timothy, etc fit into this view?
Want to add what Christ said about persecution and how the world will see believers.
Agreed. I think he does a great job dispelling many untruths, but I don't agree...at all..regarding the belief that the whole world will be turned to Christ before his coming. I see the exact opposite occuring...and there is too much scripture that aligns with this. Of course, I haven't even mentioned the many visions, dreams and direct visitations by Christ that people have recently had, which directly contradict the view being taught in this video.
@@mikearnold6312 "the whole world will be turned to Christ before his coming"
@@gs6205 so was Jesus wrong when he said the gates (defensive) of hell will not prevail against the onslaught of his church?
There is the coming in judgement against Jerusalem that happened to that generation. That is not to be confused with his coming back to a victorious church.
I think both comings might have already happened. Read Revelation 20. Satan is loosed to deceive the nations after the 1000 years are ended. I think that is where we are at.
I do appreciate Durbin in that he said he wasn’t trying to convince people, and was sharing his beliefs; however, I think it’s appropriate to address the contradictory verses to this belief.
I’m an engineer, and when developing a prototype or concept you just don’t list all the pros to your design. You need to be objective, and understand limitations/cons as well. I think pastors don’t necessarily do a good at this as they are trying to convince people that their interpretation of scripture is correct. To be fair, this is why I don’t like denominations.
Wow, finally understanding Postmill
It’s amazing though I’m amill
Jeff Durbin is an excellent 5/5 star teacher and pastor and i would go to his church if he was nearby, but here we probably come into an area where we disagree: premilennial dispensationalism which i hold to, i wait for the rapture. Durbin disagree with me here acording to what ive heard him teach before and has a traditionalist view on scripture that followed into the protestant churches during the reformation from roman catholicism that does not hold up to what the fulness of the word teaches. Id still go to his church even if we disagree here though, lots of his sermons on other things than this are pure gold.
Why do you disagree and wait for a secret rapture?
You really should learn to write properly. It’s so difficult to take any post seriously when the writer is writing “i” and “i’m”
Sorry just thought I’d be honest with you. I’m an English teacher.
@@pamelayessian5981 Must be horrible for you when you visit foreign countries then, since im not a native english speaker and pretty much everyone writes or speaks english with a heavy accent and several spelling errors. I hope you get psychological therapy if you ever go abroad.
@@critianclassico8208 Because the bible teaches premilennial dispensationalism and the rapture.
@@someonethatisachristian Where does it teach the rapture?
Won't happen for another couple hundred billion years. Relax, people. He ain't coming back anytime soon. ;-)
Hi Jeff, my husband and I are on two sides of the fence when it comes to end time. He agrees with you, I don't. I have listened to hours of you. I agree on very much, but not on end times. I've tried to get my husband to at least listen to Chuck Misler, he goes through the bible and explains very well. I'd like to convince you to watch Chuck Mislers whole teaching in revelation. He goes through a whole lot of the bible to break it down. I really think you've git it wrong. Just listen to him. 😊
Just FYI, the area wasn't called Palestine at the time that Jesus walked the earth.