The End of the World and The Truth
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- What did Jesus mean when He promised great tribulation upon His hearers? How do we respond to the many failed predictions of people in history? People like Harold Camping who predicted the end of the world in this last decade? Watch as Jeff Durbin begins to open up for our series on Matthew 24 and the Great Tribulation.
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I used to be a JW. I can’t tell you how long I had been against religion after learning I had been lied to my whole life. I walked 10 years as agnostic. This ministry is helping me to Jesus. I struggle but I think that’s my indoctrination. I can’t tell you how hungry I am for spiritual food. I am literally binging on the Bible. Ppl think I’m listening to music in my ear buds. I’m actually listening to the Bible. I have a long way to go and don’t feel worthy of gods love but in my heart... I feel his love for me.
Praise the LORD!!! ❤️✝️❤️
Repent and believe the Gospel, that is the first step in having a relationship with God. I will pray for you. 🙏🏻
God bless you happy to hear your love for the word just wanted to say none of us are worthy and if you ever do feel worthy you should stop and realize that your puffed up and need to be deflated with the truth gb
Thank you for sharing ! 😭 my husband is an unbeliever. He grew up in JW (his mother still is) but he literally HATES religion. I’m praying for his salvation 🙏
None of us r worthy of his love, that's why its called amazing grace, we all deserve his wrath but Christ bore it for all his chosen who have been born from above, born of the Holy Spt.
Thank you Pastor Jeff for taking such care with the Word of God. Having spent nearly 30 years as a false convert in the charismatic church it is so refreshing to hear solid biblical truth. The Lord be praised!
Brian I am so happy that God brought you out of the charismatic movement which is not Biblical, Amen
@@patriciahooper9445 depends on the church. Having experienced exorcisms and healing of people chances your outlook but yes many charismatic churches are fake these days.
@@arminius504 I haven’t experienced anything like that, and I don’t look for experiences. But I have know quite a few Charismatics, and if they’re not truly saved--Idk who could be? They live for Jesus, love him, etc. I don’t agree with them on everything, but having been in mostly cessationist circles…I’ve found the fruit of the spirit mostly in the Charismatics. Sure some of them didn’t have theology perfect, but man did they love. It’s from their example that I came to faith, and how I want to be.
Funny enough, I used to listen to Calvinists and agreed on Cessationism…I was also a false convert.
Calvinists are Christians, but I think just like any Christian group--there’s truth neglected for tradition, there’s celebrities (for every side) and though the theology is different, their celebrities really aren’t (both filled with pride, their own Study Bibles named after them, being the arbiter of truth (really there’s no difference between touch not the Lord’s anointed and being called a heretic for questioning someone--I’ve experienced both), and really they’re not so different. One side just over emphasizes love (almost to the point of negating sin) and the other over emphasizes wrath (almost to the point of negating God’s great love).
Everything needs balance. I’m open to the gifts, because of scripture. Not experience. But I don’t speak in tongues or anything, nor do I seek it.
It kind of breaks my heart to see Cessationists treat charismatics with such disdain and broad brushing. I used to do the same thing, but it was charismatics that I saw Jesus working.
I'm amazed at how angry some of the commenters seem on these videos. Some even act like eschatology is an issue of salvation. Many true Christians have differing views on this topic, and that is ok. It is a difficult topic. Keep praying and studying. Thank God that we don't have to be good at keeping the law or interpreting the scriptures to be saved. We all probably get something wrong, and we definitely all sin.
Jeremy Jones thanks for this comment cause this video and all of these other commenters are confusing me to be honest
You don't believe it's a issue of salvation, that doesn't mean it isn't. How many people left the faith because they followed false prophets that said "the end" was coming at a certain time and it didn't? Daniel 2:44 tells us that it never will.
@@TempleoftheSon Yes - Harold Camping is an example - We had an example in the 90s when a group of Christians downed tools and went to live in a caravan park in Beaufort West (South Africa) because they believed Jesus was coming to get them there.
Hard but we need to remember even the earliest disciples had arguments, we shouldn’t be surprised bc we know that we’re all a different part of the body and those parts are different and I believe this is for a reason that will be revealed.
I can see how confusing this teaching is for those who have always been brought up to think the Great Tribulation is future; and they think the rapture is coming - and they put America in Revelation and that’s just wrong.....
We *must* be willing to let go of all our presuppositions and be Bereans; searching the scriptures and preparing to be wrong; get out of our comfort zones..
The most honest way of reading these scriptures is by using the first rule of hermeneutics audience relevance.... It brings the scriptures alive, we see the victory of King Jesus - He is already ruling... We must stop inserting ourselves into Revelation, John’s Olivet Discourse and stop thinking the word “coming” means His physical return...
It’s a coming in judgement and Jesus Christ did come in judgement in 70AD exactly when He said He would...(40 years being a biblical generation).. God in His mercy left it until the last minute..
Amen and God bless you 🙏🏽
Lean not on our own conditioned, bias, limited understanding. Amen let the Holy Spirit teach us through thee Word.
Dont think for yourself but just believe this myth...... pure indoctrination.
The gospel is 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV for salvation
@@areyouawake-2532 You believe jesus is the son of a god? And he is looking down on us from a "heaven" ?
@@MrStaano Jesus is God
@@MrStaano I was an atheist until I learnt that the whole of the masses are under mind control! The devil truly has decieved the whole world
God Bless Apologia Studios! God has been using these sermons to help me understand his word!
Totally
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I have been living for ages in the light of an impending tribulation - trying to drum up courage but already - I suppose - defeated
Now I see a view - based on Scripture - that allows great hope and triumph and a cause for patience and perseverance - even though I may be destined for destruction at the hands of those who hate Christ
So now a new path appears
Thank you Jeff and your friend Douglas W - time to re-consider
What's interesting to me is this.
When I was a hard core atheist and reading the bible in order to criticize and debate against it. I read the olivet discourse as obviously meaning their time. The condemnation of the Jewish priests and the temple who had rejected God.
Just thought it was interesting and backs up what Pastor Durbin is saying. You only read into it a future meaning when you want it to be or when it's been taught to you. Otherwise it's fairly clear Jesus was speaking of the first century.
I am encouraged to read the Word a lot more after listening to this. Such sound teaching! Thank you Pastor Jeff.
Its so nice to hear a sermons souley focused on scripture and not twisted to tickle ears and self relate. But just Hods word, context, historical back up, audience relevance. I have an elder that has taught me this, but he Not ready to teach it in the church because he worries there will be less people than there are.
The last two minutes of this sermon were everything!! So good 👍🏼
Thank you Jeff. I needed to hear that. The Spirit gave me and is giving me revelation of who I am in Christ. God bless you.
Thank you, I have really needed this, I have had a wrong eschatology for years. This has put the pices together for me that I could not reconcile with the whole of God's Word. Hungry for more.
So many scholars in the comment section, it’s a wonder that there is anyone “unsaved” in the world. Keyboard warriors criticizing the true frontline ministers!
Keep it up Jeff!!
Who saying negative stuff,all i read is nice comments lmao
BlackLion 1000 I doubt pastor Durbin himself would say he is above criticism, relax brother.
David Shotwell
There is a stark difference between constructive criticism and nitpicking hyper-criticism.
I don’t know if you’ve ever had parents, teachers, a boss or anyone important evaluate you, but you know the difference when you experience it.
One blesses you and the other diminishes you.
wow. I thought it was God who called sinners to repentance.. and who says the people commenting aren't on the front lines in their communities? I think we are all just having a discussion.
Thank you Jeff, I never thought I had a chance in the end
times because Rev 21:8 says But the fearful shall burn in the Lake of fire, How
could I not freak out over the 7 year tribulation? I freaked over 911, God
never once came to my mind as I watched TV . Some years later I experienced my
first earthquake here in Virginia and totally FREAKED. How I am I going to get
through Revelations without FEAR? Well, that said, Thank you for your message
no more fear based religion, except God himself.
This is excellent, profound, incredible Teaching, Thank-you Pastor Jeff !
I heard it for years that all of this was going be to be in our generation because the of the preachers hadn't heard that the temple was destroyed in 70ad. Most of the them in did not have a high school education to know about the destruction of the temple. For years it was the temple mount that is to be torn down.
Most preachers in the 30's and 40's went on their on understanding
Jesus told us plainly it was his generation.
Thank you for diving deeply into this subject. It is refreshing to hear these passages rightly divided and presented. God bless you!
This sermon was powerful and opened up a whole other level for me in terms of reading and interpreting scripture. Very in depth and thorough, I loved it.
Invaluable teaching on how to read and study the Bible. Thank you so much!
Yes.. I love my church my pastor and all the people who attend. My pastor is a professor of Greek and Hebrew. So
I learn so so much. He's old school and super intelligent. Every service I truly learn something new!!! And I absolutely hate to ever miss a Sunday at my church. It's like they're my family too. 🌺❤🌺
liberty jeweled, do you attend apoligia?
@@anomilumiimulimona2924 oh no no..but now I hear how youd think so bc of my wording👌😜sorry bout that.
No. I attend a tiny bible church near my home. Id sure love to attend an apologias service tho!!!! Maybe one day 👍 🌺💜🌺
Psalm 13:1
How long, O Lord? Will You forget me forever? How long will You hide Your face from me?
God it is a privilege to see your HOSTS upon all dry GROUNDS. Can't help but love you God. Specially seeing my kings and priests who are worth respecting, honoring, loving, and giving my life for a friend kind of love. Like what you did? God bring us together as 1 body of Jesus christ. And your will be done is what they hold. For you call them by their name. Indeed hears thy voice. All praise belongs to thee! @LLOVE @LLONE
Thank you for your message. I find your sermons to be very informative and very well presented. Thank you
Looking forward to visiting AZ one Day and will surely co e fit a sermon when I am there. Amazing sermon and God bless!
Didn't the old testament prophets prophesy a near fulfillment (to prove their message was from God) and a distant fulfillment in one prophesy?
Didn't the Bible actually condemn soothsaying? I know that what you're saying is standard teaching, but the standard understanding of prophecy as fortune telling goes against scriptural injunction and misses the point of the prophetic voice, which is the call to repentance.
Matthew 24 switches from near demonstrative this as in the destruction of jerusalem to the far demonstrative that after the fig tree parable i.e. tribulation soon, signless second coming later
@@lindenhouseeditingservices5236 nonsense. There are prophecies in the Bible by prophets which for example are fulfilled in Christ. Not just a call for repentance. Have you read the OT and the NT? True prophecies from God are never forbidden. There is a prophecy already in the Adam and Eve account about Christ.
The videos on the channel seem to be all over in terms of following a series. Is there a simple way I'm missing that show the progression through the eschatology series for example? I don't see updates often and I want to go back and listen to the previous video in the series but there are so many categories it's tough to find.
If God is using graphic dramatic hyperbole throughout the Bible... who can ever decide when scripture is or it isn't actual???
(God would need to personally tell me .. otherwise I could error greatly.)
At first Jeff talked of Manna falling from heaven... one of the craziest happenings in the Bible... and afterward dismisses many of the scriptures as hyperbole.
Then he says we must let the Bible interpret itself... and follows with God didn't really mean that literally.
There is way too much questioning and conjecture coming out of this for me.
Sadly I am done here...
Finally, now I can for sure make that dental appointment.
Ha ha.. that’s awesome 👍
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I feel you brother - man! This is so liberating - and challenging - All the best with The Drill
And I think that is exactly what this type of eschatology is all about. It is for the young people who love this life so much they do not want to lose it. The fear of End times coming while they are in the prime of their life enjoying everything here on earth is terrifying to them. Only God knows the truth we will all find out one day
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I agree with you Jeff, Jesus was talking about that generation, so was John in Revelation, but they were also talking about a generation to come and you must understand that. Jesus will come back and physically be the king of the earth for 1000 years. Hallelujah!
The Light yes correct, he is actually talking about 2 separate times, which when he spoke were in the future, and of course one was fulfilled and the second is most likely in our current season
Nope. Read the text. He stacks time indicators before and after.
Time indicators? Jesus said he was coming back in revenge against Satan once and for all. In the Bible that’s what he said through John.
please explain more on these two understandings
@@Ian-ve9xc the "ye" Jesus was talking to was His disciples... if those "things" were for "us" to see Jesus would have said "when THEY see all these things..." Jesus returned from behind the veil in AD 70... please, read and understand the Bible.
No good reformed church near me. Closest one is about an hour away. I can't travel that far. So I appreciate these types of videos.
I believe it is talking about the generation Jesus lived and end time generation how else can you see Jesus talking about his coming and being ready
When the 3rd temple is built yea the jews will sacrifice again and the antichrist will take his thrown.He never said this wasnt goin to happen
@@coreyriggs3877 The Jews were sacrificing in the Second Temple. Joseph and Mary went there to offer a sacrifice. Later, Jesus scattered the sacrificial animals being sold for profit.
We error because we do not read all three chapters ( Matthew 24 , Mark 13 , and Luke 21 ) to get the proper meaning of what was being said . Remember , the chapters were based on the statement made by Jesus Christ as the disciples were showing him the temple in Matthew 24 verse 2 , " See ye all these things ? verily I say unto you , There shall not be left here one stone upon another , that shall not be thrown down ". From this statement comes the three questions asked by the disciples in Matthew 24 verse 3 , " Tell us , when shall these things be ? and what shall be the sign of thy coming , and the end of the world " ? Jesus answered all three questions , and the disciples recorded all three questions in the manner in which they were asked and answered by Jesus . The first question was ( 1 ) when shall these things be , as referring to the destruction of the temple , ( 2 ) what shall be the sign of thy coming , as pertaining to his return to setup his kingdom on this earth for 1000 years and to restore Israel as a nation , and ( 3 ) and the end of the world , as referring to destruction of the current heaven and earth , and the creation of new heaven and earth , white throne judgment , and the beginning of the Father's kingdom . Now we must read the gospels to find out when these three questions were answered . The key to the first questions is Matthew 24 verses 14 and 15 ; The apostle Paul stated that the gospel was preached in all the world for a witness in ( Romans 1;5,8 ; Romans 10;17-18 ; Colossians 1;5-6,23 ) , and Matthew 24 verse 15 , it talks about the abomination of desolation spoken of Daniel the prophet , stand in the holy place ( Daniel 9;26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off , but not for himself ; and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary ; and the end thereof shall be with a flood , and unto the end of the war desolations are determined ) . The first question was answered when the temple was destructed in 70 A.D. , by General Titus of the Roman armies . The second question was , " What shall be the sign of thy coming " ? and this was answered in Matthew 24;27-31 , Mark 13:24-27 , and Luke 21:25-28 . The third question was, " And the end of the world , and this was answered in Matthew 24;32-36 , Mark 13;28-33 , and Luke 21;29-33 . The great tribulation is about the tribulation of the nation of Israel , not so much about the world ; God only know the one's he has made a covenant with or the one's grafted into the covenant by keeping his commandments , now through the faith of his Son Jesus Christ . The great tribulation begin with the destruction of the temple , Jerusalem , and the desolation of the covenant people ( Israel ) . This desolation will continue until the Messiah returns to setup his kingdom and return the children of Israel back to the land . When he say no man knoweth the day or hour , not the angels of heaven , but the Father only , he is talking about the end of the world and the beginning of the Father's kingdom . When he states that this generation shall nor pass , till all these things be fulfilled , he was talking about the generation of the sons of man , becoming the generation of the Sons of God . Shalom !
When interpreting scripture, we don't need ancient historians or any other interpretation of men. We only need the *Interpreter* (1 Cor 2:13). The disciples ask Jesus about the _End of the Age_ in Matt 24:3. So what do they mean by age? That definition can be found here -> Matt 13:37-42. _Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom _*_all_*_ _*_things_*_ that offend, and those who practice lawlessness_ (Matt 13:40-41). The end of the age is the harvest of the vine (Rev 14:14-16). Do you see things that offend today? Did you miss the resurrection? No, why? Because _for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition_ (2 Thess 2:3) . Paul's speaking to a church here. Then obviously 70AD isn't the fulfillment of everything written in Matt 24.
When I picture the ark floating away, I see all those that missed the boat "left behind" and drown. They weren't taken away but left to their doom and destruction. Noah and his family were the ones to be taken to safety, "to a high place". When Jesus returns, he will take me to a high place which he has prepared for me.
“For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.”
Matthew 24:38-39 NKJV
Jesus clearly states that the ones who were taken away were the ones in the flood.
What about the New Jerusalem?
Revelation 3:12
The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name.
The New Jerusalem is not a literal city. It is symbolic of the church, being the fulfillment of the OT pictures
These messages given by Pastor Jeff bless me greatly 🙏 I wish I could attend your church. I want to find a church but I want to find one that preaches as you do, from the BIBLE even when it hurts to hear. I'm new to Apoligia videos but I heard you say 'reformed church' is that what Apologia is? I don't mean to seem ignorant but how do I search for that in my area, meaning do they list the church as that. I've not heard that term before. Thank you again
Not sure if it has been talked about yet (don't have time at the moment to go through the comments), but Mr Durbin undermines his own argument at 42:00 when he starts talking about the ark. He argues (correctly) that real events become symbols to us that take on meaning beyond the immediate context, then uses the ark to illustrate his point, drawing a connection (again, that I agree with) between the ark and Jesus, demonstrating how a past reality can mirror a future reality. In doing so, he shows that while Matthew 24 may have an immediate context for the original disciples, it can at the same time mirror a future reality. Where Noah's ark was a dim representation of the Ark to come -- every bit as real, but represented in its full capacity in Christ -- so it may be that the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD may well be a dim representation of a future tribulation -- every bit as real, but represented in full -- at the end of the physical world.
You nailed it. Hebrew prophetic tradition uses "types" or patterns of past events to represent future events or situations being prophesied, while applying to the audience of that time.
Jeremy Bullard No because God says the Earth is my footstool and so why would he do away with something that is part of his foundation
@@chrisflux57 traditionally, a footstool is not a foundation without which you "cannot" stand, but rather a place where you REST your feet when you CHOOSE not to stand. For reference...
1 Chronicles 28:2 KJV - Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear me, my brethren, and my people: As for me, I had in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building.
Note that God existed before the Temple was built. The Temple didn't add to God's power, and His power was not diminished when it was destroyed (multiple times). Footstools have nothing to do with foundations.
That intro gets so annoying after you've seen it a bunch of times and it takes like 15 taps to fast-forward to the content.
They have to do this for new watchers. I'm sure the 15 taps can be endured for the wonderful sermon that follows.
It's about 2:03 minutes, if that helps. It is a bit annoying after a while, but I understand why they have to add it.
Seen it the first time
First world problems to complain about lol.
Relax Jesse. There are more people watching than us.
Im having hard time with the pretorist view only because the fullfillment of the beast system under one secular order in a world of flip flopped morals and baal worship is undoubtedly among us. If tribulations was for the Israelites of the past, what can explain the world today? Also fact that the 3rd temple is obviously going to be built soon and Israel became a nation as prophesized in 1 day.
When everyone is brainwashed by the rapture narrative it is hard to bring the truth to them as first they must see the errors to make way for the truth. Daniel 9:24-27 is fulfilled...by Christ Jesus. That is what I studied first, found out the Matthew 24 verses are all about the destruction of temple and city by the Roman armies of Titus. Start with Daniel and Go to gospels of Matthew 24, Mark13, Luke 21.
I agree with Lauren that the futurist, often dispensational, premillenialist view has become so much the standard in popular Christianity these days that it's very hard to wrap our heads around a different view. But I would like to ask this about your question; if God brought judgement on a wicked apostate group of people in 70 A.D. doesn't it seem right that He would be bringing judgement again against wicked apostate people? I've learned through Scripture that God's judgement is covenantal and the outpouring of that judgement often times look very similar.
@@stephentaylor5482 I agree with you. The church was judged in the trumpets for embracing heresies and errors and losing their first love towards Jesus then in the 5th trumpet God gave them over to their sin by giving them the pope to rule over them with an iron fist all through the DarkAges, no bibles and no gospel. That is the period known as the 1260 years, 42 months or time times and half a time and known as the great tribulation. Also the time of the 2 witnesses and 144,000....real Christians who testified of Jesus Christ, the gospel, persecuted and then came by the power of God the Protestant Reformation which restored the gospel, gave the bible to the people in their own language and identified the papacy as the anti-christ [ all Christians knew this for centuries]. We started to be lied to and indoctrinated by the 1820's by Darby and Irving who spread Futurism [authored by jesuits] and by Scofield who published it in his study bibles. This runs through the scope of history!!! The seminaries started indoctrinating the pastors in futurism too. It's a mess. Lots of this is in 2 Thess2 also.
The vials are now judging the anti-christ .....he has lost much power since the height of his power in the dark ages, even tho he still has much power in the nations, over 200 concordats with nations. It is important to study history of Protestant Reformation, very helpful.
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Daniel 9:24-26 has most certainly been fulfilled, but verse 27 is yet to come. I would invite you to read "The Coming Prince" by Sir Robert Anderson, it does a fantastic job of exegeting this particular prophecy.
Lauren Limebrook that was a type. It’s the wrong beast
The churches around here don't preach the truth.. that's why they are not persecuted. I meet with my christian friend and we talk and watch and listen to devout pastors etc. That is our church at the moment. Two of us in my house.. his house.. or in the woods! God bless you Jeff!
Manowode ... God loves 2. ....2 humans, 2 of a kind, 2 witnesses, if 2 or more come together in My Name, ...etc... !
Great start to something greater, I'm sure
God Bless You and Keep You
All the Best
hope to meet in the woods someday soon !
@@Angela-iq7cm we may have to one day soon. Haha
@@Angela-iq7cm yes that's true. 2 or more.....Thank you. God bless you too. There are a few of us in the family now...growing slowly..but we need strengthening. But we ain't giving up!
Amazing sermon! Thank you brother Jeff!
This is an awesome sermon and a great example of allowing all of the following: 1 scripture interpreting scripture 2 The Bible interpreting it’s self 3 The historical grammatical interpretation 4 The analogy of faith. Excellent excellent sermon. If you continue to use this hermeneutic you will be baptizing babies as early as next Sunday, keep up the good work brother.
At 1:14:54 Jeff makes the assumption, as most do, that "this generation" means "the generation to whom Jesus is talking to." That is incorrect and has launched a thousand false eschatological ships. Jesus is describing the generation of evil that began with Cain and continues to this day. It is headed by Satan who is this generation's father. The other generation is a godly generation comprised of those like Seth, a generation of the redeemed that continues unbroken to this day. "To what then will I liken the people of this generation?" (Luke 7:31), Jesus is not talking only about the Pharisees and lawyers with evil hearts of His day, but the generation that they belong as disciples of Satan. Thus "Wisdom is justified by all her children" (Luk 7:35), meaning, look at the offspring of Satan and the offspring of Christ, two generations and discern their spiritual condition by their opposition to Christ's teaching.
The point here is, "this generation will not pass away until all these things are accomplished" (Mat 24:34) is not pointing to AD70, it is pointing to "the sign of the Son of Man" and the last trumpet that "will gather together His chosen ones from the four winds" (Mat 24:31). Jesus is saying that one day "Heaven and earth will pass away" (vs 35) at the end of the age, but the evil generation will continue in opposition to Christ right until Judgment is dispensed at the end of the age, and they will not escape it.
Theologians can quote Josephus and try and force AD70 as the destruction of the temple and the "abomination of desolation" the Roman's sacrificing a pig in the sanctuary, and other nonsense, but while this fiction brings a thrill to the secular mind, it is not thinking the thoughts of God, for His spiritual concerns are not your secular concerns. The Temple that is thrown down is not Herod's temple buildings, but Christ Himself, who was the true antitype of the Temple that must be razed and rebuilt under a New Covenant, as a stronger covenant in His blood. The disciples looked at the temple stones without spiritual understanding while Jesus (having the mind of God) saw what they represented. Likewise, when Jesus said "beware the yeast of the Pharisees and the yeast of Herod" (Mar 8:15) the secular-minded disciples said, "It's because we have no bread." So, I say the same as Jesus, "Don't you perceive yet, neither understand? Having eyes, don't you see? Having ears, don't you hear? Don't you remember? (Mar 8:18). The Bible is a spiritual book about things important to God. After Jesus' resurrection, the Jerusalem temple had no import, neither was it the "holy place." If you possess the spirit of Christ, stop thinking man's thoughts and be humble enough to let God speak. Then the Bible will reveal the truths that God intends, instead of chasing the wild imaginings of men and depending on Josephus for validation. "Do you understand, yet? (Mar 8:21).
Sorry but I was awoken 2 years ago when the Lord brought up the Rapture" while I was bringing up life insurance to Him. Personally I believe it's as important to hear the Lord for yourself as it is to study the Bible. The pharisees studied the bible, but they were the ones who missed the Lord's own coming the first time! That's something to consider. While I don't follow any date setting, I believe this IS the season!
Y’all should make Lofi music out of these great sermons.
I watched one of your other videos and you are the first preacher that I have seen that was Smoking a Cigar: but why ? ?
God delivered me from Smoking cigarettes he will do the same for you 🙏 Amen!
Thank you. I learned of Preterism about 20 years ago. It made sense then, and still does now. All this prophetic stuff everywhere, all these evangelical churches saying the world is about to end have me quite confused. It's a relief to hear a voice of reason amid the din. I will be listening to you regularly. I felt the scriptures start to come back to life when I listened to this today. Thank you.
Might I humbly suggest that you pick up two books - "Because the Time is Near" by Dr. John MacArthur, and "Revelation: An Exegetical Commentary" in two volumes by Dr. Robert L. Thomas. I appreciate much of what Jeff does, but his eschatology has always seemed to me to lack balance with all of scripture.
@@lawrencestanley8989 John MacArthur's eschatology is dead wrong, along with his erroneous preaching on hellfire and damnation... preterism is the correct view... if preterism is wrong then NO ONE is in heaven right now - the dead continue to go to Sheol... read Hebrews - the way to the Holy of Holies (heaven) cannot be opened while the first temple still has a standing (everyone who died under Torah went to Sheol (hades/hell)) - the Law cannot pass away until "heaven and earth" pass away (see Matthew 5:17-18) - so if "heaven and earth" have not passed then Torah is still in effect (even though, crazy enough, there is NO temple, NO altar, and NO high priest, and hasn't been for almost 2000 years... hmmm... how is Torah still in effect?)... research this stuff... Christ is HERE NOW... what are you waiting for?
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Please demonstrate from Dr. MacArthur's book how his explanations (and that of Robert L. Thomas) of Revelation necessitates that no one is in heaven right now.
You said: *"research this stuff..."*
I have. I am a Bible teacher in my church, I have been a missionary both in this country and over seas, and I have been studying the Bible in both English and Greek for about 30 years now. Because I have come to a different conclusion from the Bible than you, that somehow means that I haven't researched this? That is a rather rude assertion. Eschatology is an area where even the prophets did not fully understand what they wrote until their fulfillment was seen, so if the prophets didn't fully get it at times, it is certainly an area where we can have some disagreement.
You said: *"Christ is HERE NOW"*
In what sense? As I have said elsewhere in this comments section, in Luke 19:11, the Apostles supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately - is this your summation as well? While the kingdom of God certainly is now manifest in the rule of God in men's hearts, the earthly, visible kingdom of God is yet for a future time and fulfillment (Revelation 20:1-6). So, in what sense do you mean that Christ is "HERE NOW?"
@@lawrencestanley8989 I'm not going to read MacArthur's book. I don't have to. I've seen plenty of his sermons...
Read Hebrews: the tabernacle was a type of the real world - there was a veil between "earth" and "heaven" that no one could cross until the atonement was complete - that's why Jesus said "NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME"...
Hebrews 9:8 says that the way to the true most holy place (heaven) is not open while the first tabernacle still had covenental standing... that means no one could go to heaven while the Torah was still in effect...
On the day of Pentecost Peter said "where is the patriarch David?"; "he is NOT ASCENDED to heaven"... (Acts 2:29-34); Jesus told Nicodemus that NO ONE had ascended to heaven except HIM, who came from heaven (John 3:13)... at the END of revelation, AFTER Christ comes, Sheol/Hades/Hell is EMPTIED OUT (Revelation 20:13), and everyone is judged according to their works THEN the new heaven and earth come in Revelation 21... NO ONE went to heaven until AFTER CHRIST CAME and established His Kingdom... so therefore, IF Christ has not yet come, then Sheol has not been emptied and NO ONE has gone to heaven...
Furthermore, you stated that even the prophets didn't understand what they wrote - they understood what they were writing about - the salvation that was to come - but what they wrote was not FOR themselves or their time, but it was written FOR the saints of the first century because that's when those things were unfolding - see 1 Peter 1:10-12... Peter told his audience that those prophecies were written FOR THEM... and furthermore, Daniel was told to "seal up" the scroll of his vision until the time of the end (Daniel 12:4); whereas the apostle John was told to NOT SEAL UP the scroll of his prophecy (Revelation 22:10) for the time was AT HAND...
as I said, the information is there, you just have to read it and accept it instead of devising explanations and doing hermeneutical gymnastics to force the text to say what you want it to say...
there is no PHYSICAL kingdom - Christ's Kingdom is SPIRITUAL - He told the scribes and Pharisees that the Kingdom of Heaven does NOT COME WITH OBSERVATION (Luke 17:20) - the Greek there means "occular evidence" meaning it is something that CANNOT BE SEEN...
you mentioned a "rude assertion"... well, I find it exceedingly offensive that people don't take Jesus at His word - they say that He doesn't really mean what He says and that the only way to understand what He said is to add thousands of years to statements and events that He Himself said were "AT HAND"... He told His disciples and others that THEY would see things and apparently you take the "you" that Jesus used to mean YOU yourself and people alive now... the YOU He used was directed at His disciples or whomever He was talking to at the time...
preterism is correct - every other eschatological doctrine is a lie... the answers are in the Bible, you just have to rightly divide the word of truth instead of ham fisting it... sorry if you think I'm being rude, but I don't play nice when it comes to people mishandling the veracity of Christ and His statements...
@@moezura545
You said: *"the information is there, you just have to read it and accept it instead of devising explanations and doing hermeneutical gymnastics to force the text to say what you want it to say..."*
I have no argument here, but when you said "I find it exceedingly offensive that people don't take Jesus at His word," your assertion is that I haven't. So, demonstrate where I haven't, otherwise you are just making ungrounded assertions. All that I have done was to ask where dispensationalism is in error, and you have failed to do so, all that you have done was to give one side of the story, without demonstrating where the other side has gone astray, and you have continuously done so in a very crass manner - you argue like a Muslim wanting to shut down critics; you do not argue as a Christian out to make disciples or to correct brothers.
You said: *"and apparently you take the "you" that Jesus used to mean YOU yourself and people alive now..."*
Where have I done this??? I have never once associated myself with dispensationalism - I am just LOOKING for a proper definition of it, but I have yet to find one, and God knows that YOU have gone out of your way not to be helpful. I have read MacArthur and Thomas and I have asked specifically where they went wrong in their exegesis of Revelation, and all that you have come back with is that you refuse to read their material. You argue like a kindergartener looking to pick a fight on the playground; is THIS how you approach those outside the faith? Is THIS how Jesus has told you to act towards those whom you feel are in error?
You said: *"but I don't play nice when it comes to people mishandling the veracity of Christ and His statements..."*
Then you have no business pretending to speak for Him, for others will look at you, supposing to be a representative of God, and if THAT is how God teaches His own to act towards others, then they will want nothing to do with Him. You sir should be ashamed.
Wow brother Jeff, I respect you highly and follow alot of what u guys do and respect it. But this sermon has confused me greatly.
If salvation is by grace through faith.. what happened to Israel? Guess it was old cov so God didn't show them grace, but washed his hands with them?..
Sorry I don't buy it, ..One World Gov& Religion is coming, & you teach everything has happened already?.. Praying God shows one of us clarity. Praying
He's not teaching EVERYTHING has happened. And many Jews are coming to faith. Jesus will come back when the fulness of His people come to faith.
@@strykerdawn1Sorry , pastor Jeff didn't say Everything has happened, but he did say matt24& rev17 did.
Jesus said when he comes back will he find faith on the earth?( Luke18:8)
That sounds opposite of what u just said.. .
mist678 t the fullness of the gentiles....the rapture(another rapture) . “First fruits” went up with Jesus after the Resurrection “the harvest” the church will go up pre tribulation Jacobs Trouble then those saved during the tribulation...’the gleanings” Three parts Three Raptures or
Ascendings,going ups
Lorain Healer sister the Holy Spirit is keeping you alert. You are right not to buy it
God bless
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Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
1Thessalonians4:17&18
Blessings Ed,
Bless the LORD ❤
He’s talking about the generation that sees all these things unfold ie Isreal becoming a nation again
We have discovered so much false teaching in our years of "christian" faith. We have been involved in Lutheran and Nazarene church organizations. We have read and studied the bible regularly but without enlightenment because of our isogegis assumptions. We have so many false teachings and spirit of the age gospel beliefs now to overcome. The teaching of Apologia is so appreciated as a trusted source for exegesis examination of the scripture. Thank you for making the truth available through the online resources and many programs. God is blessing this to us.
Some very convincing points.... I would really love to hear you teach verse by verse through the book of revelation. Or any one who holds this view. Could somebody tell me where I could find that? Please and thank you!
For a great study read “The Days of Vengeance” by David Chilton. Follows the view of Revelation. This can be obtained as a free PDF from garynorthdotcom
@@johnandrosarios.7685 thank you!
This is not apart of your salvation, its just information from another perspective, dont get offended just ask the Father, He may or may not tell you because really it doesnt matter
Let me preface by saying you guys inspire me with your pro-life work and speaking out against evil in society. A pro-life elderly woman was attacked and someone broke her femur a couple weeks ago. The perpetrator was completely acquitted! That's insane. I say that to say that your eschatological views of the kingdom obviously inform your work. I'm not convinced that other people with different eschatological views would be any less effective though. One way to convince someone is not to build a straw man and infer that everyone who has a different view on eschatology than you is a Harold Camping, predicting exact dates. While your views may be interesting - they are presented as "the truth". That's tough. Right away from the title you dismiss all other views and don't consider them. Jesus will reign, and whether a 7 year tribulation comes before that is a secondary issue although I've developed my theology on that in seminary and from reading the Word. Sorry man, if I ever have an a-mill or post-mill view it probably won't be because of this channel but from conversations with open-minded friends, much the same way I switched from pre-trib to post-trib. That being said, bless you and your ministry.
There is a relatively simple answer to those who hold to the false doctrine of Preterism. The word “generation” as in “This generation shall not pass until all these things are fulfilled” (Matt. 24:34) can mean and does mean the moral condition of the people. It is clear that the physical generation at the time of Jesus Christ was a kind of culmination of evil in that they had the oracles of God that set out the coming of their Messiah, yet they were a “wicked and adulterous generation”(Matt. 16:4) in rejection of His ministry and Person. When the Lord speaks of them as a “generation of vipers” He is speaking of their moral origin as also in John 8:44. Although there was a specific time in which man’s rejection of God was so clearly exposed, yet it is true of all of mankind morally. Until we are born again, we are all children of the devil and are easily influenced and manipulated by him. And, this by way of our own sinful, and fallen nature. It is clear from Matt. 24 that Israel as a nation had to reappear at the end of the present age for the Lord’s prophetic word to be completed. The Preterists must deny the significance of the very recent return of the Jewish people to their ancient homeland. And finally, the gospel of the kingdom was not preached in all the world in that physical generation and the Lord did not return physically at that time. His actual coming is yet future. To speak of the second coming of Christ as having happened in that physical generation is to throw the word of God into confusion and misinterpret the Lord’s meaning.
you really mishandle the word of God... you said "THE GOSPEL OF THE KINGSOM WAS NOT PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD IN THAT PHYSICAL GENERATION"... well, my friend, you've read these verses but ignore what they say... follow this:
Jesus said: "and this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole WORLD (oikumene) as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) - Paul wrote: "But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for "Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the WORLD (oikumene)."" (Romans 10:18)
Jesus said: "And the gospel must first be proclaimed to ALL NATIONS (ethnos)." (Mark 13:10) - Paul wrote: ...my gospel... has now been disclosed and by the prophetic writings has been made known to ALL NATIONS (ethnos)" (Romans 16:26)
Jesus said: "Go into ALL THE WORLD (kosmos) and proclaim the gospel to every creature." (Mark 16:15) - Paul wrote: "the gospel... which has come to you, as indeed in ALL THE WORLD (kosmos) it is bearing fruit and growing - as it also does among you..." (Colossians 1:6)
Jesus said: "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to EVERY CREATURE (kitisis)" (Mark 16:15) - Paul wrote: "the gospel that you heard, which was proclaimed to EVERY CREATURE (kitisis) under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister." (Colossians 1:23)
Jesus said: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to all the EARTH (ge)" (Acts 1:8) - Paul wrote: "But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for "Their voice has gone out to ALL THE EARTH (ge), and their voice to the ends of the world." (Romans 10:18)
So you see the gospel had been preached everywhere and to every creature in the FIRST CENTURY according to Paul... maybe you're more inspired than he was but I doubt it... read the Bible... trust the Bible... trust the words of Jesus... trust what Paul wrote... ALL prophecy was fulfilled by AD 70. Period. Preterism is right. Keep reading, you'll find the truth.
@Saint Michael Pray for Us I'm not a protestant... the correct term is: Christian.
you, however, in admitting that you are a catholic is tragic indeed (I find it amusing that you identified yourself as a catholic instead of a Christian)... catholicism is pure paganism and deviates in many many ways from the scriptures... it wasn't even established until Constantine in the 320's AD... catholicism is an affront to God... my guess is that you're a troll and are just trying to rile me up... bottom line is that if you understood the Bible, you wouldn't be catholic... "Call no man father."... there is ONE MEDIATOR between God and man the Man Christ Jesus - (Mary anyone?!)... shall I continue?
@@moezura545 The gospel of the Kingdom has not been preach in all the world as yet because we should be preaching Paul’s gospel which includes that fact that all that are saved at this time brings Jew and Gentile into a new creation wherein all partake of the heavenly calling. This is the mystery of the gospel that was hidden from the foundation of the world. When the Church, the body and bride of Christ is complete it will be translated into heaven before the wrath of God falls on the earth. When the Church of God is gone from this scene, God will revert to the calling of his earthly people, specifically a remnant of Jews to proclaim the coming of Christ in His millennial kingdom. As the Lord did preach, “repent for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand” Those saved during the 70th week of Daniel will not be incorporated into the “assembly which is His body” and the Jew and the Gentile being formed into “one new man”.
Preterism makes a mess of the book of the Revelation. Jeff’s teaching on this is misleading and distorted in trying to make things fit into the first century. The bottom line fact is the Kingdom of God, as presented by the Old testament prophets, has not come to pass yet as it was to be a time of messiahs kingdom in which Christ would sit on the throne of David and rule the world in righteousness and peace. That time of perfect rule and peace has never come yet. Many events described in the Revelation could not have possibly come yet despite the clever attempt to twist the events and symbols to meet the demands of a Preterist eschatology. The wrath of God on the kingdoms of this world has not happened yet. The world government has not formed yet. The battle of Armageddon has not taken place, and the coming of the Son of Man in great power and glory has not happened. To say otherwise is to create a false hope and a false Idea of the true Kingdom of God. Preterism also has negative effects on other areas of the truth of God’s word and its intended effect on God’s people. It is true that some futurists have fallen into error in trying to set a date even though we are told we cannot know the actual date, yet this does not alter the basic facts of the biblical revelation.
@@jpfh4435 This is one reason it is pressed " not let many of you be teachers,because of being held to a higher accountability". How they miss prophecy as to come is astounding. How do they miss Christ reigning on Earth for 1,000 years.So they ,in my opinion,are adding to and taking away from the book of Revelation and others
Not good. They are very pious. Not humble.
@@RachelSmith-vm2jt You are correct.
It’s a Preterist school view. Does not mean it’s 100% correct. The great tribulation will humble the Jews and they will look up to Jesus Christ whom they once rejected. Zechariah 8:7-8
Thus saith the Lord of hosts;
Behold, I will save my people from the east country,
and from the west country;
And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem:
and they shall be my people, and I will be their God,
in truth and in righteousness. Zechariah 12:10-11
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
the spirit of grace and of supplications:
and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,
and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son,
and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem,
as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
I just don't understand how we (Christians) can see this so totally opposite of each other.... God is not a God of confusion so why is this seen so differently? 🤨
The book of Revelations would make such a good horror-thriller movie.
We are living in it now..
@Please Complete All Fields This always comes from the mouth of people who lack a general understanding of the things they compare. You are either grossly ignorant on all the stated texts and their history or trolling. Most Christians have patience for people belonging to the former camp.
*Revelation*, brother. I don't know where the "s" comes from when we say it but for now I'll just say Mandela effect.
@Please Complete All Fields you should not be watching theses things as a christian opening doors for demons brothers and sisters tv is demonic in every way possible
Emanuel Joshua ......how bout it’s just people misspeaking nothing more nothing less
God bless you Pastor Jeff for your love
John 21:21 makes more sense now that I know this. John was probably the only Apostle to survive 70 AD like Christ said. Makes sense.
Sharing this one on my facebook page!! There is HUGE error on this subject down here in the South where I live. This is Southern Baptist country, which is virtually ALL futurist pre-millennial country.
1) Daniel 9:
69 (weeks) x 7 (days in a week) = 483 years (lunar calendar). Convert to our calendar and it's 476 year and 21 days from cyrus decree to rebuild Jerusalem and it comes out to April 6, 32 AD the messiah would be "cut off."
Using that SAME formula
2) Ezekiel 4 God tells him to lay on his side to symbolize the years He would punish Israel & Judah. The number is 430 years. They spent 70 years in babylonian captivity as punishment, that leaves 360 years. Without getting into detail, Leviticus 26:18 God says if they don't turn to Him then He will punish them seven times more for their sins. So, as a general overview because I don't want to make this long:
360 x 7 = 2,520 years (lunar calendar). Convert to our calendar and it's 2,483 years and 285 days.
Cyrus issued decree freeing Jews and Declaring state of Israel to exist again on August 3, 537 BC.
From that date, plus 2,483 years and 285 days brings us to May 14, 1948! What!!!!! Same formula used in Daniel to predict the coming messiah somehow also predicts the exact day Israel would be regathered in 1948. Okay, maybe we're tweaking numbers and making things up. Well, there's another prophecy in Daniel, let's check it.
3) Daniel Chapter 4 Nebuchadnezzar (israel typology):
7 years x 360 days= 2,520 years, just like Ezekiel's prophecy! Convert to our calendar = 907,200 days.
Cyrus decree according to history on August 3, 537 BC plus 907,200 days brings us to May 14, 1948! Two independent prophets confirm and bring us to the exact same day. Coincidence? What year was abraham born in the bible? Add up the genealogies from Adam, starting at zero (creation). Hmm...Abraham was born in 1948 on hebrew calendar. Coincidence? How about 52 other specific prophecies?
4) Israel will be reestablished by a leader named David (Hosea 3:5). First Prime Minister was David Ben Gurion!
5) The revived state will be named "Israel" Ezek 37:11
6) Star of David will be on the Israeli flag (Isa. 11:10)
7) British ships will be the first to bring the Jewish people home (Isa. 60:9)
8) THE NATION WILL BE BORN IN A DAY (ISA 66:8). Never in history has this happened, until May 14th, 1948 the UN voted and Israel was declared a nation in 1 day!
I could go on and on. In fact, other specific prophecies predict to the very day Israel would gain the temple mount, and the date comes to June 7, 1967 AD. That's based on the inscription with the handwriting on the wall in Daniel. but it also says they would not build the temple...YET.
Replacement theology is dead. I mean, I can see it possibly before 1948, but since then just open your eyes! Is the church Israel? I don't know, who became a nation on May 14, 1948? In one day? In the land of Cannan? I didn't...did you??? Look, who's there? Seriously that freaking easy. And to those who think God ever did away with the Jews, shame on them. As Ezekiel AND Daniel pointed out, they have been serving their punishment. Next up, God promises to pour out His spirit on them, but for this to happen I believe the church has to get out of here (and I have very good reasons why, don't buy into the scoffer trap).
MIC DROP!
Pastor Jeff, I love you as a brother in Christ. I'm a PLNU alum (many years ago) so I also appreciate the so-cal. My best friends are pastors there and have your same beliefs, even though I'm constantly poking holes in them--friendly of course;). Let me ask you: if the church is not Israel then is it POSSIBLE, even 1% chance that in Rev. 3:9 Jesus himself is referring to replacement theology (or supercession or whatever term is used now) as the "synagogue of Satan?" The way I see it, there are only 3 options here: 1) He's referring to Jews who are no longer Jews because church replaced them. 2) A group of gentiles who were being fake jews. 3) Or He is addressing something in the church, like a doctrine perhaps? Hmm..well it is a letter to the church so I'm guessing it's either option 1 or 3, so now there are only two options. Then you ask, why did Jesus, in the grand finale book of the Bible, decide it was so important to have John deliver a couple sentences to the church only to tell them, "hey, you see those Jews over there? Yeah, those decendents of Abraham over there? Yeah, they're not Jews, they lie." I'd be like, what? Jews aren't Jews? Then who are the Jews? Plus, this is a letter to the church right? So Jesus is telling believers who already broke away from Judaism and converted to Christianity that Jews aren't Jews? What? Why? OR, is there even a %1 chance here Jesus is addressing a belief in the church which states they (the church) are Jews but are not? Hypothetically speaking, if He was addressing a doctrine, what doctrine could that be? All I know is that if I believed I replaced Israel, I'd be testing the snot out of it to make certain Jesus wasn't referring to my belief. But I don't believe that doctrine. So based on your view or my view, I don't need to worry. But your view? If it's correct then you're good. But if it's not correct then this could be what Jesus referred to as satanic. See what I'm getting at here? You only have risk, I don't. You say church is "spiritual Israel" (which is weird and sort of like a fetus isn't a human type of argument). I say we're separate. If I'm wrong then based on Rev. 3-9, then what will God say when I tell Him the church is not isreal? He would say nope you are israel. But you're leading your flock to say, "God, we the church have replaced Israel (ie we are Jews)". Now based on Rev. 3-9, if you're wrong then what would He say? He says you are a synagogue of Satan. Why take that risk? Isn't it logical? I'm free to be right or wrong, there's no risk and all reward of blessings if I bless Israel. Your position is all risk and NO reward for if you're right, who cares? But if you're wrong you're running the risk of being a synagogue of Satan. I hear you use logic and philosophy all the time when you witness to folks, can't you see that here? Would the grace of God really want us to fall into a snare like that? A belief that offers all risk and no reward?
PTL Jeff for your preaching and teaching on the truth of Gods word. Have you ever preached on Rev. 20-21?
Can I just say, well done in your opening words. Very wise 😁
God bless you I love your preaching
Whenever I look up how many provinces Rome had in 70AD, I can't find a precise number, but it seems to be much more than 10. Why did Jeff say Rome had 10 Imperial Provinces and where did he source that information?
Thanks! I see Jesus as bigger now!
Amazing message! Thank you Pastor Jeff! Praise God!
Brother Jeff, I appreciate your ministry in many ways. However you are clearly missing a vital hermeneutical point in developing your eschatological perspective of the Olivet discourse. And, frankly, this is a very troubling blind spot that seems all-too-common among my preterist Brethren.
Four times, the phrase, “the end of the age” appears in the Gospels. Those are the only four times the phrase is used in Scripture. If we truly allow the Scriptures to interpret themselves, (as you claim to do) we must conclude that you have used eisogesis rather than exegesis to define “the end of the age”. By using Jesus’ own clear definition of the phrase in Matthew 13:39-40, 13:49, and the implied definition in 28:20, we can easily understand why the disciples asked Jesus, “…what will be the sign of…the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3). And then we can more clearly understand what Jesus referred to as “the end” in Matthew 24:14.
If “the end of the age” is, apparently, the final judgment of all, and the casting away of the wicked, which will be gathered up by the harvesters (the angels), then this phrase cannot be considered as being fulfilled prophecy in 70AD of the end of the age of temple sacrifice, etc, as you claim. And any attempt at putting it in the category of “fulfilled in history” implies that somehow the “harvest” and judgment has also been completed, and Jesus’ promise in 28:20 to be “with [us]” in fulfilling the great commission is no longer valid, seeing that “the end of the age” is long past.
I would love to hear a preterist exegete the two apparently “end of time” parables in Matthew 13 that speak of “the end of the age”, as well as Matthew 28:20, and then exegete the Olivet discourse with those in mind, allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture.
The one thing I don’t agree with Jeff is the picture of the Arc - who remained, who was taken away.
It seems to me that this one he has got backwards. Think about it: the Earth was destroyed in the Flood. The faithful/chosen were taken out of the world for the time of it’s destruction into the Arc, the symbol of Salvation. Noah and his family came back to the Earth after it was renewed…
Brother Jeff, I keep hearing you mention "tithes" as if it were applicable to "the church" today . . . . . ??
Which Levitical priest should I be giving it to?
Or, should I just be a cheerful giver when I see a legitimate need in my vicinity? Thank you!
Wonderful well strongly stunningly said shining lovely full of PURE LIGHT job brother JEFF!!! AMEN!! WE ALL HAVE FAITH IN YOU! WE ALL ARE OF THE LIGHT! LETS HAVE FAITH IN OTHERS AND PRAISE OTHERS FOR HAVING FAITH IN OUR FATHER JESUS CHRIST INSIDE US FOR ALL OF ETERNITY! AMEN! YAHUSHA HAMASHIACH CLEANSES US ALL WITH HIS INFINITE LIGHT AND BEAUTY SPARKLING WITHIN ALL OF US HIGH FAITH HUMAN SINNERS WHO HAVE FALLEN SHORT WHO ARE ON OUR WAY BACK TO OUR FATHER WHO IS OF EVERLASTING PEACE AND LIGHT AND IS MIGHTY ABOVE ALL WICKEDNESS AND IS STRONGER THAN ALL DARKNESS! AMEN! ONLY LIGHT TRUTH LIGHT JESUS!
This eschatology is for the young people who love this life so much they do not want to lose it. They fear
End times coming while they are
in the prime of their life enjoying everything here on earth is terrifying to them. Only God knows the truth we will all find out one day
Why do Christian sermons have, for example, an ad for bras come on to “support” the ministry? If one cannot control the content of the ads, then they should not participate in this way of paying for their videos. Can anyone justify this use of pornographic images to support God’s work? I ask this with all sincerity. This does not happen, for example, with Justin Peters.
There are many times dual fulfillments of the same prophecy be not deceived
God showed me the spirits of some unsaved people. It was literally what Jesus said. They are dead people's dusty bones inside. But on the outside they were sooo good looking. Conversely, I saw the spirit of a saved man and his spirit was so beautiful as he worshipped God.
Israel is Israel is Israel! It seems to me that you are doing exactly what you are accusing premillenials and of doing. God never backdowns on His promises right? So if He promised salvation to Israel HE WILL DO SO! How do you navigate through Romans 11?
Just discover your ministry on YT, great massage and very encouraging, may God continue providing you with knowledge and wisdom, the truth and clear word of the Lord has to be preached in season and out of season, may the Lord of the harvest continue sending workers to the fields is our prayer.GBY all !! Josué
# The CHURCH Is Not 'Brick & Mortar'.
exactly..it says that God does not dwell in temples made with hands neither is worshipped with men's hands. Jesus told Nicodemus you must be born again
Acts 17:24 kjv - God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Acts 17:25 kjv - Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Amen Brother..
There's a problem here with Authority. There are thousands upon thousands of "pastors" who all claim to be "Bible-based", yet they all seem to believe different things. Word-of-Faith claims to be "Bible-based". All make different "prophecies" - they can't all be right. This is the major problem with Protestantism.
MGBetts1 Not a problem at all. You can claim all you want, if it doesn't line up with the Word of God, it's not valid. Simple.
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries - Whose interpretation of the Word of God? Not-so-simple.
MGBetts1 It is simple. Your mind seems to be made up, though. Again, the Word of God speaks for itself. As far as the gospel, the essential component, it's pretty straight forward.
@@LetsTalkChristMinistries - Your mind seems to be made up. This has been a criticism of Evangelicalism for a very long time. All the thousands of denominations and so-and-so "Ministries" all believe and preach different things, yet all claim to be "Bible-based". You need to step back and take a look at it. If you want a _proper_ interpretation of the Bible and the Gospel you need to go back to the Church Fathers, because that's where the Bible came from.
MGBetts1 You're making my point. Are you believer?
36:30 Jeff you cite Origin as a positive source, as an early church father who was a preterist. Do you believe that Origin was saved? Origin taught that everyone, including the devil, could and in fact would be saved, he denied eternal punishment and was condemned for that at the Counsel of Constantinople 553. He rejected the Trinitarian view of God and held to a heirarchical view. He pioneered the allegorical hermeneutic. He cut off his male member based on Matt 19:12. This list could go on for ever of the heresies of Origin.
Are you endorsing Origin as a saved, sound Bible teacher? If not why are you appealing to him for support?
Why is there adds?
Thankful for this video. When I read the book of Revelations I do not get the same message I hear preached by the popular preachers.
If this is not the future though.....where did this idea come from that it is???
All eschatological views (I think minus full preterists) would say there is some future prophecy in revelation.
@@tolar9 From Darby and Irving but the first author was Francisco Ribera, Jesuit, 1585!!!!
@@SerbianKnightOfficial We may be in the 6th vial at this time given historical evidence of the past.
@@tolar9 yup, I'm one of those bible believing, OSAS, KJV 1611 believers...wouldn't want it any other way, truly believe it's the Word of God, without error, God breathed...God Bless
I enjoy listening to him. One thing I found interesting, at the end of his sermon he brought up a few things to show who we are...he brought up fasting ( don't be like the Heathens for they make themselves look dirty... for attention ). With that in mind portraying oneself during fasting should look like a normal day. So I don't understand what he was getting at as far as showing the world who we are as Christians.
Solid preaching. Cheers
Amen.
I'm only writing because I watch all your videos and know you all love Christ. So I want to dispell the lie that is constantly told regarding dispensationalism being a new type of doctrine. I believe this is important to understand. Not that it's heretical for we are justified through faith in Christ's atonement for our sins on the cross, which we all believe. But I do see attacks on dispensationalism all the time, and they are full of lies not only on the history of dispensationalism (which the arguments always begin with) but also on the actual doctrine. Meanwhile, the reformed theology contradicts scripture in many areas, most of which are regarding Israel and the church. Again, my best and closest friends whom I would die for are reformed pastors in so-cal! They bear wonderful fruit so I am in no way suggesting it's heretical, as some accuse dispensationalism of--which is also so ridiculous. Here's first the history of Dispensationalism: Dispensationalism is really not new (1825)."
#1-Papias AD 70-155. He knew the apostles personally. He wrote in Fragment 6: "After the resurrection of the dead, Jesus will personally reign for one thousand years. I was taught this by the apostles John, himself."
#2 Tertullian AD 190-210
Against Marcion 3.25 "The Millennial Reign, Resurrection, and New Jerusalem are literal.
#3 Irenaeus AD 178 writing against cults of his day.
Against Heresies 5.35 "The Resurrection of the Just takes place after the destruction of the Antichrist and all nation's under his rule. Many believers will make it through the Tribulation and replenish the earth. The new heaven and Earth will be created, and then the new Jerusalem will come. These are all literal things, and Christians who allegorize them are immature.". He went on to say we should allow people to teach otherwise because if people get something as simple as the 2nd coming confused, what other problems do they have in their theology?
#4 Barnabas was taught by early church father's and quoted, in Epistle of Barnabas 16:5-7. It's a bit long so to paraphrase he was speaking about the Jews: "...they will return and rebuild the temple."
Premillenialism and literal future fulfillment of prophecy was taught by ALL church father's (#5 Justin martyr) until 3rd century, then came Amillenialism. Cypian AD 250 Epistle 67 he states the prophets of Antichrist foretold Heresies rising up in the church at the end of the world. He speculates the prophecy of Church's end-time apostasy is starting in Rome.
What happened that brought in Amillenialism (postmillennialism)?
The Schism of Nepos, AD 290.
1st few centuries gnostics taught many Heresies. Cherenthus (arch-enemy of apostle John) taught the millennium was for indulgence in food, drink, and sex. This is where Muslims get their 70 virgin doctrine.
Nepos, an Egyptian bishop, wrote in his book "Refutation of the Allegorists" all the quotes of early church father's regarding Pre-Millenialism. However, reaction to this book had the opposite effect and resulted in further Schism. Eastern orthodox even refused to read Revelation in the church.
The Apostolic Church was Pre-Millennial, and for over 200 years no other view was entertained. The writings of the "Church Fathers" abound in evidence of the fact. But about A.D. 250, Origen, one of the Church Fathers, conceived the idea that the words of scripture were but the "husk" in which was hid the' "kernel" of scripture truth. At once he began to "Allegorize" and "Spiritualize" the Scriptures, and thus founded that school of "Allegorizing" and "Spiritualizing"interpreters of Scripture, from which the Church and the Bible have suffered so much. The result was that the Church largely ceased to look for the Lord to return and set up an earthly kingdom.
When Constantine became sole Emperor of Rome in A. D. 323, being favorable to Christianity, he united Church and State. A new difficulty now arose in the interpretation of scripture. If, as was at that time believed, Rome was to be the seat of Antichrist, the question arose, or rather was suspiciously whispered-- 'Is Constantine the Antichrist? ' Such a notion was unpalatable to the Roman Emperor, and so a convenient explanation was discovered and adopted, that Antichrist was "Pagan Rome, " and that the Millennium commenced when Constantine ascended the throne. This was given color by the great gifts and privileges bestowed on the Church by Constantine, and led to the claim that the Millennial blessings of the Old Testament had been transferred from the Jews to the Christian Church.
But the claim that the "Papal Church" was the Antichrist would not down. When it was found
impossible to expunge the Book of Revelation from the sacred canon, it was decided to lock up the Scriptures, and the Bible became a sealed book, and the gloom of night settled down upon all Christendom. The result was the "Dark Ages." But amid the gloom God was not without witnesses to the truth. The Paulicians, Albigeneses, Waldenses, and other sects, bore testimony to the Premillennial return of the Lord. But the darkness was not eternal. When the fulness of time was come the "Morning Star" of the Reformation, John Wycliffe, arose, and was soon followed by the "Sun, " Martin Luther, the brightness of whose light dispelled the darkness. The doctrine of the Premillennial Return of the Lord was revived, but the Reformers did not go far enough. The period was one of religious strife and the formation of new religious sects. The result was an ebb of Spirituality and the growth of Rationalism, which refused to believe that the world was fast ripening for judgment, and a new interpretation of the Millennial Reign of Christ was demanded. This interpretation
was furnished by the Rev. Daniel Whitby (1638-1640), a clergyman of the Church of England,
who claimed that in reading the promises made to the Jews in the Old Testament of their
restoration as a nation, and the reestablishment of the Throne of David, he was led to see that these promises were spiritual and applied to the Church. This view he called a "New Hypothesis."
He claimed that Israel and Mount Zion represented the Church. That the promised submission of the Gentiles to the Jews was simply prophetic of the conversion of the Gentiles and their entrance into the Church. That the lying down of the lion and the lamb together typified the reconciliation of the Old and New natures, and that the establishment of an outward and visible kingdom at Jerusalem, over which Christ and the saints should reign, was gross and carnal, and contrary to reason, as it implied the mingling together of human and spiritual beings on the
earth. His "New Hypothesis" was that by the preaching of the Gospel Mohammedanism would be overthrown, the Jews converted, the Papal Church with the Pope (Antichrist) would be destroyed, and there would follow a 1000 years of righteousness and peace known as the Millennium; at the close of which there would be a short period of Apostasy, ending in the
return of Christ. There would then be a general resurrection of the dead, followed by a general
judgment, the earth would be destroyed by fire and eternity would begin.
The times were favorable for the "New Theory." A reaction had set in from the open infidelity of
those days. All England was in a religious fervor. The "Great Awakening" followed under Whitefield and Wesley, and it looked, as Whitby claimed, that the Millennium was about to be
ushered in. That he was mistaken the events of history since that time have shown. It is evident that we are not in the Millennium now.
Nevertheless his "Theory" was favorably received everywhere, and spread with great rapidity and became an established doctrine of the Church, and is what is known today as the "Post-Millennial" view of the Second Coming of Christ, and supposed to be the orthodox faith of the Church. In short, "Post-Millennialism, " as advocated in our day, is barely a few hundred years old, while "Pre-Millennialism" dates back to the days of Isaiah and Daniel.
Wasnt The Book of Relevation written after 70 AC ?
Dante Jager It’s highly debated. There is very plausible evidence it was written before. Before Jerusalem Fell by Gentry would be a good starting point.
From DA Carson...
Ancient and modern interpreters have typically dated Revelation to the reigns of Nero (AD 54-68) or Domitian (81-96). Those preferring an earlier date (68-69) appeal particularly to 17:10 and identify the five “fallen” kings as Julius Caesar, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, and Claudius and the one who “is” as Nero. They often interpret 11:1-2 as predicting that Rome will destroy the temple in AD 70 and take 13:3 as referring to a popular legend about Nero’s return that circulated after his death.
Most interpreters date Revelation to AD 95-96, following Irenaeus’s statement that John received his vision “towards the end of Domitian’s reign” (Against Heresies, 5.30.3). John addresses Christians in Asia Minor who were facing pressure to participate in Roman religious practices, particularly emperor worship (13:4,15-16). According to the Roman historian Suetonius (ca. AD 69-122), Domitian insisted on being called “our lord and god” (Life of Domitian, 13), and each of Revelation’s seven cities became official centers for emperor worship by the late first and early second centuries. The testimony of the early church and the situation reflected in the book suggest that John most likely wrote Revelation in AD 95-96 (see notes on 2:13; 13:1,14).
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Irenaeus said Christ lived to 55. Also it can be interpreted as John who we know (he was still alive during reign of domition).
Yes, read Before Jerusalem Fell, and also The Days of Vengeance by David Chilton. Both are available for free as PDFs at GaryNorth.com
I like this guy,that's all
Awesome message
Maybe one should read Hippolytus (200 ad) on the Antichrist. Or Cyril of Jerusalem or Origen or that one pagan historian who talked about strange fire that kept Julian the Apostate from rebuilding the temple. Or 2 Thessalonians?
I appreciate Jeff’s view and I believe he correctly attributes the prophecies of Jesus in the Gospels to the destruction of Jerusalem; however, extending the purely preterist notion has five problems. First, it denies the salvation pattern laid out throughout the Scripture starting, with the salvation of Noah, Lot, and the nation of Israel from the judgment upon Egypt (see James Hamilton, Jr., God’s Glory in Salvation through Judgment: A Biblical Theology). Second, “swept” and “taken” are not the same word. “Swept” is translated from the Greek, ēren, which is suggesting “remove” or removal. Hence the judgment passed resulted in the removalof the wicked in this case, with the Ark typified as saving the righteous Noah. “Taken” from Matt 24:40, is translated from the Greek, paralambanetai, which is to “receive near.” Receive near to what, or who? The suggestion here is that one is to be received to something, prior to the oncoming judgment. That “something” is most simply understood as the Lord, and the wicked aren’t received to anything anywhere in the Scripture. “Stay awake” is the exhortation because the Lord will come as a thief in the night. The connotation drawn from a thief is one of trouble and not heavenly pleasure. The larger point is made in Matt 24:45ff, that is what is the servant of the Lord to be doing? The good servant is to be expecting his master and making things ready for his arrival; the evil servant will not and receive violent judgment. Third, Jeff has to embrace a pre 70 A.D. writing for Revelation, ignoring the post 70 A.D majority view of a long list of early church fathers and scholars (see Grant Osborne, and Craig Blomberg commentaries, among others). There is scant evidence for a church of Smyrna before 70 A.D., and Revelation points to global, systematic, persecution of the Saints which was not apparent in the time under Nero. If one accepts a post 70 A.D. writing of Revelation, then she has to accept that the judgments described therein, are sometime in the future with a sense of finality of the Parousia, accompanied by the Saints (Rev 17:14; Rev 19:14). How is it that the Lord will be accompanied by the Saints if they remain during the Tribulation? Fourth, the scroll of Revelation 5, is mostly likely a contract or deed. Such contracts were kept and sealed in near east antiquity, and only the owner was allowed to open them upon the time of execution. As such, our Lord Christ’s opening, symbolizes the first steps of taking possession of His divine inheritance. This event happens after the letters to the churches where Jesus corrects and encourages them, until He comes (Rev 2.25, 3.11). A last point: the current evidence of great church power and Christ’s kingdom reign is utterly absent. Global Christian persecution has reached astonishing levels (one needs only to review media reporting such as the BBC; see also “Worst Year Yet” Christianity Today). Europe is almost entirely secularized, and the United States is following. While Pew finds that 70% of Americans claim to be “Christian,” Gallup shows a massive decline in church attendance to 50% (see Gallup: news.gallup.com/poll/248837/church-membership-down-sharply-past-two-decades.aspx).
War and bloodshed are rampant, while a rise of humanistic beliefs speak with greater authority as to solutions to the world’s problems. There are increasing cries for world unity, and China hegemony is rooted in global aspirations.
--For these reasons, it is easier to accept a semi preterist, futurist view of the eschatological points of Jeff’s arguments, wherein, our Lord Jesus prophecied the destruction of Jerusalem, but also that of His second return to judge the world, and establish His physical kingdom beginning in Revelation 6.
Consider Matt 24:30, 2nd coming? Not on your life!!; Coming on the clouds is an old testament motif of impending judgement upon a nation. or city. Babylon, Isaiah 13 for an example. Assyria, Egypt, Edom, and Jerusalem in 70 a.d. All these events follow Yaweh's hold on history!!! And in the last instance, Jerusalem was the casualty of the "wrath of the Lamb"from Rev. 6:16 in 70 a.d.!!!!!
AMEN! hypocrisy and apostasy are rampant. The weightier things justice mercy faithfulness are non-existent. Lovers of selves with hearts that have grown cold. The generation that sees the rebirth of Israel will live to see the return of the Lord. Psalms 90 says a generation is up to 80yrs. Therefore either from 1048 Israel becomes a nation without Jerusalem or from the victory of Jerusalem in 1967.
Come Lord Jesus come.
What about the next third temple?
We are the third temple. Jesus said he would tear down the temple and rebuild it in three days, and since where are His Bride and the Body of Christ we are the third temple.
it's good to see Pastor Jeff speaking the TRUTH about the Parousia of Christ in AD 70... now we just gotta get him on the right page regarding the false doctrines of "hell fire" and "damnation"... great video!
What are you saying!? There is no damnation and no hell for the unrepentant. If so you are not on the ground of the truth at all. I always suspected the Preterism is only a symptom of other false notions. The whole thought of eternal life is in contrast to eternal death. Wake up and receive the truth!
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@@jpfh4435 I guess you're from the camp that believes that Adam is more powerful than Jesus... read the Bible. Jesus reconciles everyone to God.
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So you believe that everyone is saved despite the fact that the New testament is clear that only the those who believe and repent are of the company of the saved. Wow. You are still in a lost condition and dead in trespasses and sins. So sad.
@@jpfh4435 where to begin...
I could just quote the scores of verses that proclaim that Jesus Christ reconciles everyone to God...
But I will ask you this instead... who is responsible for our salvation? is it of God? or is it of our own works?
@@moezura545 You could just read the gospel of John or the epistle to the Romans where believing on the Jesus as the Son of God is necessary to receiving eternal life and faith in the resurrection is necessary for justification before God. The human mind without the work and guidance of the Holy Spirit is truly incapable of understanding the mind of God as revealed in the Holy Scriptures.
I’m just curious if apologia believes in preterism? It sounded like that’s what he was implying.
We are partial-Preterists. We believe the Lord Jesus when He said "all" those things would come upon that generation and that it wouldn't pass away until it was fulfilled.
@@ApologiaStudios is that the same as partial-futurist? (^___^) how about "historical-grammatical-literalist"?
i guess this is not about mt 23.36 and the 7 woes because there is a clear scene shift and a new audience for the next chapter...so mt 24.34 must be the passage you refer to....there seems to be some of both time periods in there, 70AD and the end or day of the Lord (similar to the isaiah 61 prophecy jesus splits in half as he reads and calls it fulfilled to that point), though the only ones that definitely sound like 70AD are mt 24.2 and lk 21.6...contextually it seems like "this generation" in v34 refers to the one that "sees all these things come to pass" and who would then know he was "right at the door" (after the parable of the fig tree)...
the problem with making it the generation of the first century instead is that *right before this* he talks about the second coming, clearly that didn't happen in 70AD (nor all the stars falling from the sky, *after* the tribulation...don't lean too heavily on the science that brought you evolution and supports luciferianism, rev 6.13 is pretty clear this is a real falling to earth--the figs are the metaphor)...i guess those three verses are where the "partial" could step in, moving this event later...
...appreciate your desire to come to an honest and genuine understanding of scripture no matter the cost or how strong the world's opposition to it...love you guys and what you are doing out on the front lines, stand firm, time is very short!
@@islandblacksmith, stars wouldn't fall from heaven onto the earth and still leave an earth for the New Jerusalem to descend on. Stars falling from heaven is more OT prophetic language.
The idea is that the second coming of Christ to judge the covenant breakers did happen; just as God came in His wrath in the form of pagan armies throughout the OT, Christ's second coming came in the form of the Roman army. Partial preterists are actually waiting for a third return, or a fourth if you count his return in the flesh to his disciples. Others (I can't remember the name for this group) believe that Christ is constantly returning every time someone belies. I suppose the point is, Christ died for our sins and was resurrected for our salvation, and people don't really have to be scared into accepting a life lived in forgiveness and love.
Hello, Jim! if the scripture says this event will happen but leave an earth for it to descend upon, then it will...the vast majority of OT prophecies have (and therefore will) happen just as they are written too, heaven and earth will pass away but His word never so we have no need to perform acrobatics with the scripture to suit the science of this age (which by default of its starting position is *designed* to counteract His word)...to quote from my statement above to @Apologia Studios, "don't lean too heavily on the science that brought you evolution and supports luciferianism, rev 6.13 is pretty clear this is a real falling to earth--the figs are the metaphor"...keep at it, time is very short! ^___^
@@islandblacksmith, there is a strong implication in your argument that God doesn't know that stars landing on the earth will destroy it. I don't think acknowledging that requires a terribly heavy reliance on science. I'm just assuming that God understood what stars were.
The image of stars falling from the sky refers quite figuratively in the Bible (esp. Isiah, over and over again) to lofty people/kings falling from their thrones. Stars are "the hosts"--that is, the gods and goddesses of pagan traditions. It's a figure used to express the literal reality of pagan deities failing and pagan leaders falling from power. The fact that the stars are compared to the withered up fig of Israel underscores the point with what's called a compound metaphor: the lofty leaders/fig leaves of Israel will fall with their pagan lords. Why didn't John just say that literally? Well, he probably didn't want to see the readers of his letter get banished to an island, too.
Are you the fake or the hypocrite? No, I just think that you fall in with the Apostles in Luke 19:11 who supposed that the kingdom of God was going to appear immediately. While the kingdom of God certainly is now manifest in the rule of God in men's hearts, the earthly, visible kingdom of God is yet for a future time and fulfillment (Revelation 20:1-6).
Man I wish I could get a chance to talk you down from Calvinism. God bless