I attend my church, and am a member as is my family. The thing is, I get much valuable education out of the ADDITIONAL hours I spend learning from and contemplating Apologia. Thank you!
Just read Matthew Chapter 23-24 last night to my wife and showed her how Jesus said that all those things would come upon that generation. Been taught Premillennial Dispensationalism my whole life. Now I see that there are some major problems with it.
I appreciate Christians exposing charlatans and most importantly naming them. Like Jeff did with todd white. It's all about the truth that truly does set you free. Glory to God.
Jeff. I love the way you reach through all of Scripture and CONSTANTLY use God's revelation to solidify God's revelation. I've seen all of these uploaded sermons and I thank you and thank God for this type of preaching of the WORD.
Pastor Jeff. I hope the Lord can use me someday even half as much as he uses you for his glory. God bless you, I absolutely appreciate your passion and boldness.
Pastor Jeff could you or someone please put a playlist together with your teaching on this in order? I would greatly appreciate it. I really enjoyed watching you.
Yes, please! I've been trying to figure out the order of these, but it's hard because they're not numbered or identified as part of a continuing series. It's more confusing to listen to them haphazardly.
What you describe about the local church is a dream for many true christians. For me, I find certain true christians online to resonate w/ me. We can't make circumstances regarding churches to somehow appear. :-)
Totally. I have several good Christian friends online. I moderate on my good friends RUclips channel, and I have my own as well. Plz subscribe actually check it out
It's same in Roman Catholic Church. The preist is said to have the power to call down Jesus from his throne and assume a piece of bread. Blasphemy is all I say
“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.” 1 Timothy 3:15 KJV
Every eschatological video from you guys I click on has an ad on the side from the Living Church of God "seven signs signaling the second coming of Christ"... doh'
There’s one announcing “40 signs Jesus is coming”..........most of the signs being about modern day Israel, and the church’s rapture... And the amount of views is extraordinary . People flock to those premillennial pretribulation rapture channels and it’s very depressing as all the comments are about people “waiting to fly” because “this world is so evil” and Bill Gates’ Mark of the beast... I love what Doug Wilson said: “the world is not Gods Vietnam” and “there’s no helicopter lifting us out of Saigon”.. God bless 🙏🏽
Bro can you post link for VB series you refer to ? I'll give 2 great ones: RC Sproul 'Last days according to Jesus' ruclips.net/p/PL30acyfm60fWm9jA8LNRnYizJj5VEduus 'Beast of Revelation Identified' ruclips.net/video/Sy7cEW4MJac/видео.html Watch every minute - show to friends. I bought 24 DVDs back in the day of this one. Entire churches & pastors have been awakened it's that good.
Mother goose ruclips.net/video/M52rvapdgmA/видео.html. Not sure I’ve done this correctly. Just look his name up Voodie baucham. If you listen to different sermons of his, you’ll realize this guy loves the Lord.
Obviously there is a very large protestant camp that teaches the miraculous passed away with Jesus last Apostles. They get it from Corinthians where Paul said - whether there be tongues or prophecys it shall pass away. We see thru a glass darkly, but then we will see face to face - meaning when the christian is brought to heaven, not when the written text of the new testament was completed, of which cessationist teaches.
@Apologia Studios I might be misunderstanding, but I've tried watching this series of videos and have found them very troubling. I have been seeking for a stronger understanding of eschatology and have found nothing but confusion. I know the Lord calls his people to be faithful and endure to the end, while working heartedly to give Him glory and spread His name. I just can't help but think that your position on eschatology affects this tremendously, or at least gives you a brighter outlook on the Kingdom of God, which is what we all should have.BUT I almost think that your viewpoint on eschatology is pretty close to FULL preterism, which is outside of orthodoxy completely and has some significant implications on the rest of our beliefs. I really enjoy your ministry and the passion for Jesus' name you have, but I am hoping to at the very least gain clarity on your eschatological position, and if you actually believe Jesus will return one day. Much love brother.
Check Moriel - Jacob Prasch or Mark Hitchcock or Chuck Missler or John MacArthur for solid teachings on eschatology. I really enjoy Jeff's work to save the unborn, and how he preaches to mormons and JW to approach them in loving truth. But his position on eschatology really is pounding the proverbial round peg in a square hole. Read Revelation and Daniel and Zechariah, has there been a literal fulfillment of the seal, trumpte and bowl judgments yet? Obviously not. His hermeneutics seemed largely reactionary from his prior unhealthy obession with eschatology. Swinging from opposite pendulum ends is equally erroneous. Just be a berean and search out the scriptures for your self. The Spirit of Truth will open your eyes is you are saved.
@@Tdizzle7775 to piggyback off of this there's a video called "An Evening of Eschatology" where John Piper mediates a bit of a debate on eschatology by a premillenial, post millennial (Doug Wilson) and Amillenialist which I found pretty interesting.
Travis Burch I have been following John MacArthur for years and years and he’s an awesome teacher, but I now believe he’s wrong when it comes to the last days. Seriously listen to Voddie Baucham. I never could understand how all these pastors taught about the new heaven and earth where we would live for 1000 years. What was the need to live on Earth again for thousand years? and I truly do believe we are in the tribulation now.
No Jeff your not my pastor, but your a brother in Christ. I am plugged into an awesome Bible believing church. Just wanted to say hey, keep up the good work. P.S Jeff, any tell you you look like Theodor Herzl.
I have a question. He said that we're not supposed to believe the sign and wonder on its own... But....37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.(A) 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
Infallible interpreter....And the Spirit said to Philip, “Go over and join this chariot.” So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. Now the passage of the Scripture that he was reading was this: “Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter and like a lamb before its shearer is silent, so he opens not his mouth.
It seems as if the whole interpretation hinges on Matt 24:33-34 "33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." I just want to point out that v34 is directed at those who "see all these things." I think Jesus was referring to the generation that will "see all these things" and not necessarily the audience. Can someone explain why that wouldn't be a valid interpretation? It seems like an unwarranted presupposition to assume that Jesus was only talking about the people listening to Him at the time.
When He says "When you see all these things" who is He telling this to? He is talking directly to his disciples they are the ones that had asked Him when the temple was going to be destroyed. The disciples expected this to happen sometime in their lifetime not something to take place over 2000 years later. So I don't see how you get that He is talking to the generation that see these signs. You would have to twist the scripture to get that interpretation. We need to remember when Jesus says this He is talking to his disciples not to me or you.
@@Chico60Colt Did that generation see "the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory"? Or is that just hyperbolic language? You've got some real problems with your interpretation that should make you go back and question some of your presuppositions. You asserting that Jesus is only talking to his immediate audience and not a future generation doesn't answer my question about why my interpretation isn't valid. I'm asking for a reason it's not valid. For example, I would assert that Jesus isn't only talking to that generation because they never saw "they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." That's a reason to question your interpretation. Respectfully, I would also assert that are many other places in the bible that you wouldn't use that hermeneutic to interpret scripture. Later in Matthew 24:45-46 "45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes." Since you're saying Jesus words only apply to his audience, does this verse apply to me? Will I be blessed if Jesus finds me in obedient service when he comes? If you're going to be consistent in your hermeneutic that you would say "no, it doesn't apply to you since you aren't a member of that generation that heard these words." However, I don't think that you would say that. The fact that you can't interpret these passages in the Olivet Discourse with the same hermeneutic should tell you that you have a problem with your interpretation.
@@banjoninja Im going to argue yes they did see Him coming on the clouds there were many signs before and during the siege of Jerusalem. For instance there were many recording of soldiers and chariots running from cloud to cloud in the sky before the siege. Many people in the city knew these signs meant judgment was coming on Jerusalem but the Jewish leaders changed these signs and said no these are signs God is with us and we will be victorious. I would agree with your argument if Jesus had said the generation that sees all these signs will not pass away but He doesn't. There is no where in Matthew when Jesus is talking about a generation is he talking about a future generation every time He is talking to the generation that was there. Your trying to change what He is saying to fit a presupposition where anyone who was just reading the text without any knowledge of either side would say He is talking about that generation. Actually in Matthew 24:45-46 I would still say He is not talking to you. The wicked servants He is talking about are the Jewish leaders who were supposed to be taking care of His house but didn't this is why He came in judgment on them in 70 AD.In His conversation with the disciples your not there they are. Are there truths we can take from what He says to His disciples yes of course but you cannot say this is written for me even when Matthew was written it was written for a Jewish audience. You have to keep that in mind when ever we interpret scripture.
@@Chico60Colt Did Jesus come and then leave again? It doesn't say anything about soldiers and chariots in the bible, its says "the Son of Man" with power and great glory. Its says "all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see." Did all the tribes of the earth mourn when they saw this or are we just talking about the people where the siege was located. The bible plainly indicates a world-wide event. I really think you're stretching credulity to credit these accounts of soldiers in the clouds with what scripture is describing here. It just doesn't fit. It's a prime example of making the scripture fit a doctrinal presupposition. You have a doctrine and now you must make the scripture fit it with secular accounts of people seeing soldiers in clouds. That approach is really the same approach as people looking at headlines today and trying to fit a pre-tribulation rapture into current events. The only difference is that you are looking back. I once again want to point out that you vary your interpretation to fit what you presuppose. When Jesus speaks of "this generation", you take a supraliteral approach but when He mentions His coming with world-wide mourning, power, and great glory you then take a figurative approach. I'm not saying I have all the answers but I don't find your position and many others very convincing. I've come to be mostly pre-wrath in my eschatology, which I know is a minority view. I'm just trying to understand the other views at this point. At the end of the day, I'm going to trust Christ with my future; however it plays out according to His sovereign will.
@@Chico60Colt Be careful of your approach to scripture, the Word of God was written to believers. I realize that Jesus spoke these words to a Jewish audience but it's a very slippery slope to say "Matthew wasn't written to me." Jesus can speak these words to a Jewish audience 2000 years ago and speak them to us today when we read them. People have gotten into a lot of heresy by segmenting the Word of God by audience and saying that part of scripture is not for me because it was written to Jews. Was the Sermon on the Mount written only to Jews? I thought there was no difference now between Jew and Gentile because we are all one in Christ. I have seen people fall into some real false teaching by taking that approach too far.
Look for an Orthodox Presbyterian church, or a United Reform Church or Reformed Baptist church. Watch out for people that worship the KJV Bible as the only Bible translation. The ESV, and NASB Bibles are excellent translations.
Jeff or anyone at apologia, do you still interpret the new heaven and new earth to be literal? Do you have any messages dealing with this atall? Would really love a reply but God bless anyway if you cant!
Marcus Hughes Samuel e Waldron..Professor John Lennox. Dr. Lane Craig. I just found someone from “Grace Church” in Modesto California, there are tons of pastors that teach this. Reformed Baptist is the safest for me.
There are more than a few on this channel that does explain it. The short answer is no. New heaven, new Earth is this new covenant brought by Christ's coming.
@@noahjones5600 the way I see it is if its in the bible then it does matter. Plus, the way I interpret this will impact the way I interpret other parts of the bible and also will impact how I live. Stay blessed
Calvanism is heresy. For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. - 1 Corinthians 3:4-6
The issue is that people don't see it as a Dual prophecy, which is what it is. You can't see it or receive it without the Holy Spirit opening your eyes. I don't believe I am a prophet and I am not false.
Liquid Cryo That’s a great point to note. As I challenged myself to study “dual fulfillment” I found that it is quite a slippery slope. How do we determine which prophecies have two (or more!) fulfillments? Is there another Messiah coming? Is there a second Second Coming? My conclusion is that Scripture is specific as to fulfillment of a prophecy in a single context, always. I can’t name a single prophecy that has multiple fulfillments. Brian Godawa has a great chapter in one of his books explaining the problems of multiple fulfillment theory, and many other theologians of previous centuries likewise reject the premise. I encourage you to examine both sides of the argument and come to your own conclusion. Peace!
@Desire Of All Nations He wrote that before the destruction of the 2nd Temple so your argument is to my advantage. Not to mention God came multiple times throughout the Bible in Judgement so your understanding is a bit off.
Pastor Jeff why restore the name of the FATHER but not the son?. Pastor Jeff if we never transliterate names why are we doing it for the two most important names in HIStory. it is commanded by the FATHER to not add or remove from the scriptures, so why are we accepting that fact with the names of the FATHER YAHUAH and HIS son YAHUsha, please explain I am having a really hard time with this Brother, please help.
All the time statements of His return, of "this generation" "soon" "near" " shortly " refer to one final coming to bring judgement and redemption, not some 3rd coming in between, let's not be afraid of what scripture reveals, but I'm telling the truth I am afraid of what the bible might lead full preterism is weird to me but it is accurate and on point that's what I'm afraid of but I have to go where the truth leads.
Andre, I appreciate your honesty and your dedication to biblical truth! You are right to grapple with some of the possible implications of preterism. I have spent the past 6 years working though eschatology, setting aside everything I was taught to believe or read, and now embrace moderate preterism. I have come to believe that the Second Coming, the resurrection, the judgment of all, and the recreated heavens and earth are future events. Full preterism does not stand up to consistent biblical doctrine, interpreting scripture in the light of scripture. Best wishes in your journey!
All these video's do is confuse people. Is Jesus coming back or not? Are there going to be cataclysmic signs? Why are you making some of Matthew 24 literal and some figurative? Finally is Revelation relevant to us or not? If it all happened, then why should I read it to get a blessing?
Christ IS coming back. ALL authority on Heaven and Earth is his RIGHT NOW as he says in his ascension. The secret rapture "Left Behind" version of the end of the world is modern fiction. It's a tradition only about 200 years old. Christ will return to a conquered earth like 1 Corinthians 15:25 says. We've got a LONG way to go but you should be thinking long term, just like the early church and most of church history did. Watch this: ruclips.net/video/31G003JI_Ps/видео.html
Jeff’s preaching is spot on in my opinion and not confusing in the slightest. How do you people ignore all the many imminent time statements and audience relevance? To think that Daniel’s 70th week, Matthew 24 and Revelation are unfulfilled is baffling.
The Egyptian magicians performed the first 2 signs including turning water to blood. Probably on a smaller scale, as most would have been red already. After that, No.
Then he shall confirm a [k]covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the [l]desolate.”
The hypocrisy of Durbin's concern about end times pretenders while literally endorsing Kanye's "pastor" Adam who did not even *_mention_* the word BELIEVE or FAITH or give the gospel in his "sermon" at Kanye's ecumenical nightmare is just _raw!_
Wait, I'm so confused.... what you're saying is that of Mathew 24 was not Jesus speaking about the distance future regarding His second coming then He said nothing at ALL about His coming?... that is the only time in the records of His time on earth in which He speaks of coming again in the future?.. prompted by the question from His disciples "what will be the sign of your coming?"...... He didn't come in that generation!?.. don't you need to do some mental gymnastics to make that fit?. You keep saying "LET THE TEXT TALK!" well, let's let it talk then?... he is asked what the signs are of His coming, if you have to get around this then obviously you're not letting the text talk? You can't pick and choose when something is stated as it appears and then when something doesn't fit you force very convoluted interpretations to it? None of this makes sense. I don't think it makes sense the other way around either because you're right that He said ALL these things will happen before that generation passes. So the way I see it, we have a few options... 1. Jesus said absolutely nothing about His second coming at all during His life.. 2. He was asked a question and He didn't answer it but instead told them what would happen in the coming years, rather than what the signs of His coming are, or.. 3. This is contradicting because it's not true and the bible is fiction. Like I said, makes no sense at all. None of it, from any angle.
You're right, preterism is confusing. It's not Biblical. "This generation" means the generation that sees ALL the signs will not pass until all those things are accomplished. The meaning is that the Tribulation will be confined to a short enough period (7 years) so that the generation that sees the beginning will see the end. Behold, He is coming quickly.
This fancy pants, tattooed, fast talking con man thinks we missed the return of Christ Why would Jesus say "this generation" WHILE HE'S LIVING IN THAT GENERATION? Straight blasphemy
There isn't one statement in scripture teaching amillenialism or that Jesus comes AFTER the 1000 years. We are not in the 1000 years for Christ and his saints are not reigning yet. Rv5:10 Rv2:25-27 Christ comes at the end of this age and this age is still ongoing. Mt13 Mt24:3
Cinnamonbuns13 yes it is. Christ is not reigning yet and Christ hasn't returned yet. We are not in the 1000 years yet. The saints are still subject to human governments.
@@keithfuson7694 18And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age." Keith Fuson says: "Ok, we'll just wait for you to come get us."
Cinnamonbuns13 Right. Exactly. Jesus said in Jn14:3 I will come again. And He will. No king= no kingdom. You aren't reigning now. Not over the nations.Rv2:25-27 nor on the earth. Rv5:10. Christ and His saints are not now reigning for the 1000 years. Rv20:4,6 The kingdom of this world has not yet become our Lords and His Christ. Rv11:17 The kingdom has not been restored to Israel yet.Acts1:6,7 The body of Christ has not been snatched away yet to the celestial realm to be with Christ. 1Th4:13-18 You suffer from premature realization. And you aren't immortal yet either. 1 Cor15:50-57
Actually, the age whose end the apostles anticipated was the Jewish Age. They wrote their epistles in the Jewish Age. Though the church was planted by the primitive Christians, its age did not begin until after the cult of temple ended.
Is anyone else sick of "bible teachers" telling us how they are going to "unpack" a passage for us? That terminology just irritates me so much because it is extremely overused.
Preterist? Are you headed to the Eastern Orthodoxy church as Hank Hanigraaff? Check out the debate Hanigraaff had with Mark Hitchcock. Very eye opening.
I do enjoy your teachings most of the time, I'm so blessed that you stand for truth!! However, I am dumbfounded that you think we are in the Millennial reign now! How completely foolish is that!! Satan is not bound! Just watch the news and open your eyes!!
Its called dual fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Christ knew that you would teach this false doctrine saying " He was speaking only to those people in that generation in Jerusalem." That's why He put this verse in Mark 13 just for you dirtbin. Mark 13:37 (KJV) And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
I used to subscribe to that idea too. But its flaw is that you can't destroy the nation, people, city & Herods Temple again - its 'done & dusted' as they say. Why do people try to put a comma, where God has put a period ?
@@hellosunshine1090 jeff is not a brother but is twice dead plucked up by the roots.. I'll mock him just like Elijah mocked the false prophets of his day
@@recon0911 Wow very harsh - over Eschatology ? How do you justify attacking a fellow Christian over end time views. So you call anyone who doesn't agree with your eschatology an enemy ?
@@hellosunshine1090 I agree although I disagree with the end time theology he preaches I love Jeff Durbin and he does more for the faith than any of Stephen Anderson's followers and haters, such people are not born again, end times theology divides the best of minds however I dont think end times echatology is an issue to argue about we should focus on the here and now, abortion, evangelism and proclanation of salvational truths
Pastor Durbin, I love what you do when it comes to witnessing to the lost! You provide an excellent example for other believers. However, this is not true. We are in the end times!!! All you have to do is look at end times events through the nation of Israel. In addition to the 8/21/2017 total solar eclipse. That is a sign of God’s impending judgement on this nation. In addition to the evil that is on the rise in this nation. Corruption at the highest levels in our government, our national debt and and the rise of sexual freedom. Which is a characteristic of end time events. I love you Pastor and I pray that God would open more clearly your spiritual discernment into things of this present age. God has blessed you with a wonderful platform. It’s time to wake up Christians not keep them sleep by this interpretation of the scriptures. May God bless you brother!
Its interesting you disagree with what he says but instead of arguing from the scriptures which is what we use as our authority for what is true. You argue on what you see around you and what you think are signs that the world is ending and we are in the end times. Maybe we should look more at what the scripture actually says then all the events that we think are signs that the end is near.
Every generation since Jesus left earth has believed that we are in the End Times. They were all wrong. Eventually someone will get it right. We are at least 1-2 generations away and quite possibly 100 or more years. Jerusalem is Babylon - Babylon killed the PROPHETS, SAINTS & Jesus Christ. Carefully read these scriptures from the KJV. Revelation 18:24 18 And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of PROPHETS, and of SAINTS, and of all that were slain upon the earth. Revelation 17:5-6 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, BABYLON The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the SAINTS, and with the blood of the MARTYRS of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. Matthew 23:34-37 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you PROPHETS, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye SHALL KILL and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous ABEL unto the blood of Zachariah (A to Z from the first person killed to the last in the OT) son of Barachias, whom YE SLEW between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that KILLEST the PROPHETS, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have OF THE JEWS: 15 Who BOTH KILLED the Lord Jesus, and THEIR OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary (against) to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the WRATH is come upon them to the UTTERMOST. Luke 13:34-35 34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! 35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Chris Coulter Hmm...I’m afraid that’s not entirely true!! And I say that because this is just a comment section. Not an 1hr and half sermon. However, Let’s start with my favorite which is the total solar eclipse! Let me ask are you familiar with Genesis 1, Luke 21, and Revelation 6? Did you know that Gods wrath is displayed from the heavens? It’s actually a really fun study!!
Matthew 24:4 So that’s interesting!! Did you know in the Old Testament the idea of something happening very soon goes back to the Old Testament. You should research the Day of the Lord!! Simply meaning that God has been receiving the end of the world way before Jesus came on the scene!! Which makes sense because if God views a day as a thousand years and a thousand years a day then simply going back 6000yrs wouldn’t even be a week in Gods time!! I appreciate your knowledge of the scripture and all though I agree with your verses. To argue Durbins position you would have to through out other texts. Which is why it’s not accurate! In addition your response reminds me of 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4!
Jerusalem is Babylon....Where does it say that? That in part is where your interpretation is not correct. And at that it’s mystery Babylon. However I don’t disagree that people in the past have been incorrect. I mean isn’t that how 7th day Adventist’s got there start!? Nor am I leaning on date setting but Jesus makes it clear that you will recognize the season in which these events are to take place and geopolitically we see the same countries called out in the end times, clicking up right now as we speak!
John MacArthur is also a calvinist and he seems to be expecting rapture and the second coming of Jesus and the end times... This guy talks so much it's hard to understand what his message is
Where is it a Biblical command to get involved w/ a local church? Actually, from what I have studied, churches, as in buildings are unBiblical, or against the Great Commission.
We as chistians are the church. Why would you not involve in a local church? Sharing knowledge and truth so the gospel can be spread more widely. I think that's what he means.
We have no land of our own because of the Romans./Jews. Mathew 23. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Now the blood of the saints is on their hands. And our bones scattered from the east unto the west. They killed us because we were Unitarian and Gods people they said no Jesus is God and the pope his victor. Our prophesy fulfilled the English did this we survived and escaped and told people about our God and everything he did they had never heard of God had the Romans not been killing us and taking our bibles we wouldn’t have fulfilled this prophesy. Isaiah 66: 19 I will set a sign among them, and I will send some of those who survive to the nations to Tarshish, to the Libyans and Lydians famous archers to Tubal and Greece, and to the distant islands that have not heard of my fame or seen my glory. They will proclaim my glory among the nations. 20 And they will bring all your people, from all the nations, to my holy mountain in Jerusalem as an offering to the Lord-on horses, in chariots and wagons, and on mules and camels,” says the Lord. “They will bring them, as the Israelites bring their grain offerings, to the temple of the Lord in ceremonially clean vessels.
i'm surpirsed that your beginning video you mentioned titheas though it is still in effect....not sure how anyone could be pa preterist and still believe that tithing is still in effect for today. Second point, you use the term "partner with us" which is a term most false prosperity Gospel preachers and organization use.... you speak one way yet provide many questionable signals, based on your vocabulary, that you are not as legit as you appear....humm
You have tattoos. That goes against the Bible. As I watch you preach with anger. A add popped up about the Mormon church . Right after you said temple.
YT controls which 'ads' are placed within a video. The creator doesn't have control over that. We live under the New Covenant. The dietary and Ceremonial laws are no longer of any concern for Believers. Anger and passion can be confused You seem quite judgemental 😢
This is not a command to gather together once a week for 90 minutes INSIDE a building and sit quietly as a spectator while some hirelings sings some songs, gives a sermon, Biblical or not, every week. Assembling together can be done daily. This Scripture is vague, the church has twisted it to fit the church staff's meaning, keeping the hirelings in a standard of living usually higher and better than half those sitting in seats for 90 minutes being spoon-fed or bottle-fed what one man (the CEO of the CORPORATION, a profit making business ) wants to twist Scripture to justify his sermon.
Preterists have no BIBLICAL answer to the AOD, Not in light of 2nd Thessalonians 2 and Daniel especially chapters 11 and 12, There was no AOD set up in 70 AD
I know Pastor Durbin holds to a Preterist view and it sure seems that view has a number of problems associated with it. He uses Matthew 24 to say "This generation..." and true many of them did see a lot of what was written, but that doesn't invalidate a pre-trib view, as many if not most all O.T. prophecies had a dual fulfillment, specifically that to validate the prophecy was from God, there would be a short term fulfillment of the prophecy, but many also have a future fulfillment. Typing this, can't help but think about what God warned through out the O.T... God is clear to Israel walk in my statutes, i'll protect you, if not then is will ... God warns Israel a number of times finally say but if you don't beleive i will scatter you to the four corners of the earth. Along with this God say but in that last days God is clear that He will bring His people back into the land, even to the point the land would be barren but will cause the hills to flower once He brings His people back into the land... Just saying this would be a short overview of the O.T. and what God prophesied about Israel, if one holds to a preterits view can't see all of the scriptures were fulfilled in 70A.D.'s destruction of the temple. Next trouble point... Was the Holy Spirit taken out when the temple was destroyed in 70A.D.? Just saying God was clear about the tribulation will start only once the restrainer is taken out of the world and that from what we can read would be the Holy Spirit. But Christ was clear and said "i go away and it will be better for you for i will send the Holy Spirit, but rest assured I will never leave you nor forsake you..." Question is that and one of the main reasons i reject preterism if the restrainer is taken out, wouldn't that be leaving the Bride of Christ alone in the world? Or even a bigger problem God is clear He had not appointed us unto wrath... And clearly we see all men/people will suffer righteous plagues of God's wrath in the tribulation, as it says in Rev 6:14 The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16 and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?" Just saying sure seems all the people will face God's wrath here... But absolutely clear here in: 1 Thes 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, Sorry all those who believe and accept Preterism, don't see how some of the other related issues fit in to the rest of the story without contradicting a number of other passages...
I'm not a preterist but I don't think 1 Thes 5:9 is talking about wrath on Earth, but wrath in eternal judgement. Especially since it's juxtaposed with salvation.
@@MansterBear Would ask you what is the purpose of the tribulation, what is it really all about? Or surely you can share the three names for the tribulation recorded in the O.T.? Also what exactly is the context in 1 Th 5 all about? Further compounding the the context and meaning about God not appointing believers to wrath?
@JESUS CHRIST is King of Kings Not sure why your comment make me think of Romans 2. Might do better then painting with a broad brush, where or what did i say that is wrong?
God didn’t bring the Jews back to Israel, Satan did. Gods covenant with Israel was CONDITIONAL on the Jews being OBEDIENT (IF). They weren’t obedient, they rejected the prophets that God sent them, they rejected and killed Jesus. Compare Exodus 19:5-7 and 1 Peter 2:9-10. Exodus 19:5-7 (KJV) 5 Now therefore, IF ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, THEN ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. 7 And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the Lord commanded him. Exodus 24:7-8 7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient. 8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words. 1 Peter 2:9-10 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Jerusalem is Babylon - Babylon killed the PROPHETS, SAINTS & Jesus Christ. Carefully read these scriptures from the KJV. Revelation 18:24 18 And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of PROPHETS, and of SAINTS, and of all that were slain upon the earth. Revelation 17:5-6 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, BABYLON The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the SAINTS, and with the blood of the MARTYRS of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. Matthew 23:34-37 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you PROPHETS, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye SHALL KILL and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous ABEL unto the blood of Zachariah (A to Z from the first person killed to the last in the OT) son of Barachias, whom YE SLEW between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that KILLEST the PROPHETS, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have OF THE JEWS: 15 Who BOTH KILLED the Lord Jesus, and THEIR OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary (against) to all men: 16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the WRATH is come upon them to the UTTERMOST. Luke 13:34-35 34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! 35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
I agree with Jeff on being a part of a local church. But when you apply the qualifications of it being led by biblically qualified elders that believe and teach the true scriptures in the Reformed tradition WELL, there are almost none. It has taken me 7 years to find a church with those qualities and it is 75 miles away. If not for the online Reformed teachers my family would never be able to hear any truly biblical teaching. The influence of the NAR, WOF, SOCIAL JUSTICE(lgbtq, feminism) BETHEL, HILLSONG, ELEVATION and the NEW AGE has all but ruined all of the churches around me. And l am in a very rural area.
Trey we have almost your exact situation can relate very much. We used to drive 130 mi every 2nd Sunday to a strong Reformed church. Great times & fellowship but wore us out. By Gods grace a local SBC church here was either closing down (large bldg, Cong # dwindled from 800 to >100) - due to large variety of factors INCLUDING the SBCs double mindedness (long story). 1 or 2 of the Elders had noticed the Optimism inherent in a Reformed Postmillenial perspective & they called for & found a great candidate - PTL we now have a growing church once again. It's hard but rewarding work serious Reformation is done on our knees seeking Jesus humbly & being willing to reexamine all our false or questionable premises. I would advise you search around I'm pretty his situation is not unique. Meantime meeting as a family/house church is not unacceptable - it may be your season for it. Pray for the LORD to link y'all with Reform minded believers & study together. I think it was John Calvin who said if all local churches were corrupt (He prob meant 'Catholic') then He suggested private / family worship. The Scrooby Manor congregation in early 1600s led by Pastor John Robinson gave off the Pilgrim Separatists that by 1620 emigrated to our Eastern Shores & planted the Colonies, the seed = USA. So look what the LORD can do ! An over-reliance on Institutional church models is rampant today. The tragic reality is that they as often as not, serve to make a congregation of timid non-fruitful sheep rather than loving, bold mature Disciples. If we humbly ask Christ to call us & our wives & children to Him & lead us, the latter outcome is far likelier ! I believe real training in the Faith & Discipline of Christ begins first in the Home, then in the wider church body. Oops sorry I've written a novel but your comment touched a nerve / reflects our reality too. BTW we're in rural East Texas. Approx where are you ? Keeping ya in our prayers- David in Texas
@@treythompson4103 Certainly likewise Brother ! A though occurred: Pastor Jeff & Apologia church runs the end abortion now.com campaign. They have 500 churches nationwide enlisted - ones that would be of similar mind. Maybe some near to you ?
Scripture teaches that the coming of the Lord is at the end of the age not the end of time, His coming is at the the end of the old covanent age not the Christian age, His coming is at the" time of the end", you have to link 2 Peter 3 to 1 peter 4:7 it would be the end of the mosaic age not the destruction of the physical cosmos also it would be the new heavens and new earth, and the kingdom and the age of messiah, Hebrews 9:28 teaches he comes the 2nd time to bring salvation for those who wait for him, not a future 3rd coming, the second coming happens at the fall of Jerusalem, Jeff's partial preterism doesn't make sence.
How do you explain Mathew 24:34, all the events in Mathew must occur before that generation passes away, and you can't separate Daniel 12 and 9 from Mathew 24 , the ressurection of the just and the unjust occurs as well, it can't be in our future, how do I handle this, I need help.
@@andrebias3534 "So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." ~Matthew 24:33-34 Clearly, "this generation" refers to the generation that see the signs mentioned prior to the coming of the Lord, not necessarily the generation Jesus was speaking to at the time. This is what the context shows, and logic- as the resurrection obviously has not happened yet.
Who is the "You" in Mathew 24? Clearly it's the disciples and whomever was on the mount or near the temple, then if it was a future generation that Jesus would be speaking about then he would have said "that generation" but he dint he said "this generation". Pay attention to audience relevance, the list of things that were to happen in Mathew 24 would accomplished before ' this generation " passes away not " that generation" sometime in the distant future.
@@andrebias3534 You are ignoring the context. I just demonstrated that "this generation" is the generation that sees the signs of Christ's coming...i.e. the sun being darkened and the moon turned to blood. It's obvious that the resurrection and the Second Coming of Christ have not happened yet as Scripture nowhere records their occurrence and the orthodox church fathers make no mention of their occurrence either. My friend, you really just need to use some common sense here and stop getting hung up on one word like "this". It is so blatantly obvious that neither the resurrection nor Second Coming have happened yet that I can hardly believe we are actually having this conversation.
49 minutes into the message, when he shares about "signs and wounder," and he shared about Pharaoh's magicians their signs and wonders was an illusion. Magic is nothing more than an illusion. All the gods Pharaoh served was proven false aka they did not exist. The imaginary devil had no play in the illusion... The imaginary satan, if real, is not even omnipresent. The imaginary satan is always falsely accused...flip wilson mentality.
Preterism was still invented by the Roman Catholics as counter reformation doctrine. Doesn't matter how much you hate the crazies like Lindsay, Baker, Cahn, etc., they are wrong too. Your complete lack of understanding of prophecy shows your immaturity in Christ. Period. Better not to speak than to show yourself a fool. Lost massive amounts of respect for you, but we were all children once, praying for you.
I came to what is called preterism by reading the bible for myself. I took note of the many imminent time statements and read it through the eyes of the first century Christians. I didn’t know about preterism and I could care less if it was ‘invented’ by anyone.
Did he just call Todd White a charlatan? The Holy Spirit is real and so is His Power. I've laid hands on many people in the name of Jesus Christ and by the Power of the Holy Spirit they've been healed. Beware of those who deny the power of the Holy Spirit. 2 Timothy 3:5 King James Version Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Mark 16:17-18 King James Version And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
I would plead with you to avoid Todd White. The hypercharismatic movement is based on chasing experiences and feelings and I fell into that for a time in my early walk. If you like charismatic churches check out Calvary Chapel churches where they do book by book, verse by verse bible teaching. I don't agree with everything the Calvary chapels teach since coming to Reformed Theology but they are such a blessing for Bible teaching.
Todd White could not do what he does if God was not with him. I seek the Holy Spirit first before all things. To avoid Todd White would be to avoid the anointing of God on his life. The most important thing is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ and win souls for Christ. When the Pharisees rejected Jesus Christ he told them if you don't believe me then believe the works that I do. John 10:31-39 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” 39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.
Greetings, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I will say always pray to God our Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. The devil does not win souls for Jesus Christ. Nor can a House divided stand. Mark 3:22-27 NKJV 22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, “He has Beelzebub,” and, “By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.” 23 So He called them to Himself and said to them in parables: “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself, and is divided, he cannot stand, but has an end. 27 No one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. And then he will plunder his house. Peace, Love and may you be Blessed and Highly Favored of the Lord 🙏
Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I'm not going to make any judgment calls or accusations on someone that I don't know. I live my life in service to the Lord. My family and I serve the Lord with everything we have. Baptized in water and fire, born again. Peace Love and God bless, may you be highly favored of the Lord.
i wish he would stop wasting so much time repeating the same stuff from previous sermons. each sermon has been great, but he spends the 1st half hour saying the same things
Ray Ortiz but he is speaking to people 1 week at a time. We have the luxury of watching these one after the other, but they’ve received it over months.
@@James-wx9bf they get it each week and can watch online. its ok to do a recap to remember the flow, but he elaborates on the same thing week after week for too long. like the withering tree and say to this mountain, he explained that like 6 weeks straight
The Bible this guy reads from is so changed from the word it isn't funny. It's no wonder he teaches that we are all going to fly away. God knew back in the day that men would be pushing a narrative of flying away. Ezekiel chp. 13 vrs. 20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly." I pray that people study the word for themselves and stop only getting the word of God from a man. Man can be a good source to bounce ideas off of, but most men that supposedly teach the word today don't actually get around to teaching any truth.
Do not use the title pastor if you say you’re not my pastor. Instead use preacher, it is odd that you try to minister while claiming to not be a pastor.
Simple logic will help you here. Jeff is a Pastor. He pastors Apologia Church. He is not YOUR Pastor. Seems simple enough, friend. We encourage you to think a little more deeply and consistently.
These are thought provoking sermons, I would like to add my request to those who would like to see this series collected into a playlist, please.
ruclips.net/p/PLxrTVDVlcXGZfl0PLMBATCFMnUXse_dsB
I made this awhile ago
I attend my church, and am a member as is my family. The thing is, I get much valuable education out of the ADDITIONAL hours I spend learning from and contemplating Apologia. Thank you!
Just read Matthew Chapter 23-24 last night to my wife and showed her how Jesus said that all those things would come upon that generation. Been taught Premillennial Dispensationalism my whole life. Now I see that there are some major problems with it.
I appreciate Christians exposing charlatans and most importantly naming them. Like Jeff did with todd white. It's all about the truth that truly does set you free. Glory to God.
Thank you Apologia and Jeff for your faithfulness to the text.
Jeff your sermons changed my mind about post mil.
Jeff. I love the way you reach through all of Scripture and CONSTANTLY use God's revelation to solidify God's revelation. I've seen all of these uploaded sermons and I thank you and thank God for this type of preaching of the WORD.
Pastor Jeff. I hope the Lord can use me someday even half as much as he uses you for his glory. God bless you, I absolutely appreciate your passion and boldness.
Blessed by your sermons. Very powerful.
Pastor Jeff could you or someone please put a playlist together with your teaching on this in order? I would greatly appreciate it. I really enjoyed watching you.
Yes I would greatly appreciate this as well. I have enjoyed the teaching on this but want to make sure I am share the videos in order.
@@scottparrish325 right!!?
Yes please, I also would like to ask for a playlist for the sermons, I want to hear them in order, and I also want to make sure I haven't missed one.
Yes, please! I've been trying to figure out the order of these, but it's hard because they're not numbered or identified as part of a continuing series. It's more confusing to listen to them haphazardly.
You can make your own playlist on your personal RUclips channel
powerful message
What does "you shall not see me again until you say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"?
God blessed and Sanctified the Seventh day - Sola Scriptura
And then wrote it twice with His hand on pillars of stone - twice -
I think one of the issues is that the disciples, in their haste, asked 3 questions at the same time. v3.
Thanks for the videos.
From an Eastern Catholic brother.
I appreciate the content put out by your channel. ✌
You should consider being a kingdom of God brother, well welcome you! Real soon
Well said in the first two min. This is an important truth. We should all remind our audiences of this more frequently. Thanks for the example.
Yes God help him
What you describe about the local church is a dream for many true christians. For me, I find certain true christians online to resonate w/ me. We can't make circumstances regarding churches to somehow appear. :-)
Totally. I have several good Christian friends online. I moderate on my good friends RUclips channel, and I have my own as well. Plz subscribe actually check it out
Half the comments miss the whole point so far thank you for your insight into the scriptures Jeff
It's same in Roman Catholic Church. The preist is said to have the power to call down Jesus from his throne and assume a piece of bread. Blasphemy is all I say
Man. The sermon ends right where my questions begin in verse 29. Help Jeff?! Are you going further in the chapter brother?
“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.”
1 Timothy 3:15 KJV
What’s your point?
Thank you for your sermon!
Every eschatological video from you guys I click on has an ad on the side from the Living Church of God "seven signs signaling the second coming of Christ"... doh'
Mainstream beliefs are always competing and suggested.
There’s one announcing “40 signs Jesus is coming”..........most of the signs being about modern day Israel, and the church’s rapture... And the amount of views is extraordinary . People flock to those premillennial pretribulation rapture channels and it’s very depressing as all the comments are about people “waiting to fly” because “this world is so evil” and Bill Gates’ Mark of the beast...
I love what Doug Wilson said:
“the world is not Gods Vietnam” and “there’s no helicopter lifting us out of Saigon”..
God bless 🙏🏽
Hey Apologia! In your sermon playlist you have videos that aren't from Apologia and must have been put in by accident
I like Jeff he’s on fire for the Lord, but I learned a lot more from listening to Voddie Bacham. His series on Revelation is awesome.
Tony Basoni what makes him a false prophet? There are many I’d agree with but not him.
@@1977Jackofalltrades Most likely he will reply with anti-Calvinism remarks
Ryan Ebersole yeah that’s a bit too dogmatic for my taste.
Bro can you post link for VB series you refer to ?
I'll give 2 great ones:
RC Sproul 'Last days according to Jesus'
ruclips.net/p/PL30acyfm60fWm9jA8LNRnYizJj5VEduus
'Beast of Revelation Identified'
ruclips.net/video/Sy7cEW4MJac/видео.html
Watch every minute - show to friends. I bought 24 DVDs back in the day of this one. Entire churches & pastors have been awakened it's that good.
Mother goose ruclips.net/video/M52rvapdgmA/видео.html. Not sure I’ve done this correctly. Just look his name up Voodie baucham. If you listen to different sermons of his, you’ll realize this guy loves the Lord.
Is there a playlist?
I have listened to a few now... But not in order.
Obviously there is a very large protestant camp that teaches the miraculous passed away with Jesus last Apostles. They get it from Corinthians where Paul said - whether there be tongues or prophecys it shall pass away. We see thru a glass darkly, but then we will see face to face - meaning when the christian is brought to heaven, not when the written text of the new testament was completed, of which cessationist teaches.
Who so ever believes shall be saved. Not who is predestined.
@Apologia Studios
I might be misunderstanding, but I've tried watching this series of videos and have found them very troubling. I have been seeking for a stronger understanding of eschatology and have found nothing but confusion. I know the Lord calls his people to be faithful and endure to the end, while working heartedly to give Him glory and spread His name. I just can't help but think that your position on eschatology affects this tremendously, or at least gives you a brighter outlook on the Kingdom of God, which is what we all should have.BUT I almost think that your viewpoint on eschatology is pretty close to FULL preterism, which is outside of orthodoxy completely and has some significant implications on the rest of our beliefs. I really enjoy your ministry and the passion for Jesus' name you have, but I am hoping to at the very least gain clarity on your eschatological position, and if you actually believe Jesus will return one day. Much love brother.
@JESUS CHRIST is King of Kings that's not the preterist view at all dopey. Do 5 minutes of research.
Listen to Voodie bacham. Voodie explains things and makes it easy to understand.
Check Moriel - Jacob Prasch or Mark Hitchcock or Chuck Missler or John MacArthur for solid teachings on eschatology. I really enjoy Jeff's work to save the unborn, and how he preaches to mormons and JW to approach them in loving truth. But his position on eschatology really is pounding the proverbial round peg in a square hole. Read Revelation and Daniel and Zechariah, has there been a literal fulfillment of the seal, trumpte and bowl judgments yet? Obviously not. His hermeneutics seemed largely reactionary from his prior unhealthy obession with eschatology. Swinging from opposite pendulum ends is equally erroneous. Just be a berean and search out the scriptures for your self. The Spirit of Truth will open your eyes is you are saved.
@@Tdizzle7775 to piggyback off of this there's a video called "An Evening of Eschatology" where John Piper mediates a bit of a debate on eschatology by a premillenial, post millennial (Doug Wilson) and Amillenialist which I found pretty interesting.
Travis Burch I have been following John MacArthur for years and years and he’s an awesome teacher, but I now believe he’s wrong when it comes to the last days. Seriously listen to Voddie Baucham. I never could understand how all these pastors taught about the new heaven and earth where we would live for 1000 years. What was the need to live on Earth again for thousand years? and I truly do believe we are in the tribulation now.
No Jeff your not my pastor, but your a brother in Christ. I am plugged into an awesome Bible believing church. Just wanted to say hey, keep up the good work. P.S Jeff, any tell you you look like Theodor Herzl.
I have a question. He said that we're not supposed to believe the sign and wonder on its own... But....37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.(A) 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
Bounces around from topic to topic and never Nails anything down... but he speaks well
Infallible interpreter....And the Spirit said to Philip, “Go over and join this chariot.” So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. Now the passage of the Scripture that he was reading was this:
“Like a sheep he was led to the slaughter
and like a lamb before its shearer is silent,
so he opens not his mouth.
It seems as if the whole interpretation hinges on Matt 24:33-34 "33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. 34 Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place." I just want to point out that v34 is directed at those who "see all these things." I think Jesus was referring to the generation that will "see all these things" and not necessarily the audience. Can someone explain why that wouldn't be a valid interpretation? It seems like an unwarranted presupposition to assume that Jesus was only talking about the people listening to Him at the time.
When He says "When you see all these things" who is He telling this to? He is talking directly to his disciples they are the ones that had asked Him when the temple was going to be destroyed. The disciples expected this to happen sometime in their lifetime not something to take place over 2000 years later. So I don't see how you get that He is talking to the generation that see these signs. You would have to twist the scripture to get that interpretation. We need to remember when Jesus says this He is talking to his disciples not to me or you.
@@Chico60Colt Did that generation see "the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory"? Or is that just hyperbolic language? You've got some real problems with your interpretation that should make you go back and question some of your presuppositions. You asserting that Jesus is only talking to his immediate audience and not a future generation doesn't answer my question about why my interpretation isn't valid. I'm asking for a reason it's not valid. For example, I would assert that Jesus isn't only talking to that generation because they never saw "they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." That's a reason to question your interpretation.
Respectfully, I would also assert that are many other places in the bible that you wouldn't use that hermeneutic to interpret scripture. Later in Matthew 24:45-46 "45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes." Since you're saying Jesus words only apply to his audience, does this verse apply to me? Will I be blessed if Jesus finds me in obedient service when he comes? If you're going to be consistent in your hermeneutic that you would say "no, it doesn't apply to you since you aren't a member of that generation that heard these words." However, I don't think that you would say that. The fact that you can't interpret these passages in the Olivet Discourse with the same hermeneutic should tell you that you have a problem with your interpretation.
@@banjoninja Im going to argue yes they did see Him coming on the clouds there were many signs before and during the siege of Jerusalem. For instance there were many recording of soldiers and chariots running from cloud to cloud in the sky before the siege. Many people in the city knew these signs meant judgment was coming on Jerusalem but the Jewish leaders changed these signs and said no these are signs God is with us and we will be victorious.
I would agree with your argument if Jesus had said the generation that sees all these signs will not pass away but He doesn't. There is no where in Matthew when Jesus is talking about a generation is he talking about a future generation every time He is talking to the generation that was there. Your trying to change what He is saying to fit a presupposition where anyone who was just reading the text without any knowledge of either side would say He is talking about that generation.
Actually in Matthew 24:45-46 I would still say He is not talking to you. The wicked servants He is talking about are the Jewish leaders who were supposed to be taking care of His house but didn't this is why He came in judgment on them in 70 AD.In His conversation with the disciples your not there they are. Are there truths we can take from what He says to His disciples yes of course but you cannot say this is written for me even when Matthew was written it was written for a Jewish audience. You have to keep that in mind when ever we interpret scripture.
@@Chico60Colt Did Jesus come and then leave again? It doesn't say anything about soldiers and chariots in the bible, its says "the Son of Man" with power and great glory. Its says "all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see." Did all the tribes of the earth mourn when they saw this or are we just talking about the people where the siege was located. The bible plainly indicates a world-wide event. I really think you're stretching credulity to credit these accounts of soldiers in the clouds with what scripture is describing here. It just doesn't fit. It's a prime example of making the scripture fit a doctrinal presupposition. You have a doctrine and now you must make the scripture fit it with secular accounts of people seeing soldiers in clouds. That approach is really the same approach as people looking at headlines today and trying to fit a pre-tribulation rapture into current events. The only difference is that you are looking back. I once again want to point out that you vary your interpretation to fit what you presuppose. When Jesus speaks of "this generation", you take a supraliteral approach but when He mentions His coming with world-wide mourning, power, and great glory you then take a figurative approach. I'm not saying I have all the answers but I don't find your position and many others very convincing. I've come to be mostly pre-wrath in my eschatology, which I know is a minority view. I'm just trying to understand the other views at this point. At the end of the day, I'm going to trust Christ with my future; however it plays out according to His sovereign will.
@@Chico60Colt Be careful of your approach to scripture, the Word of God was written to believers. I realize that Jesus spoke these words to a Jewish audience but it's a very slippery slope to say "Matthew wasn't written to me." Jesus can speak these words to a Jewish audience 2000 years ago and speak them to us today when we read them. People have gotten into a lot of heresy by segmenting the Word of God by audience and saying that part of scripture is not for me because it was written to Jews. Was the Sermon on the Mount written only to Jews? I thought there was no difference now between Jew and Gentile because we are all one in Christ. I have seen people fall into some real false teaching by taking that approach too far.
I live in Seattle and I'm looking for a local church. Which denomination is most biblical?
Look for an Orthodox Presbyterian church, or a United Reform Church or Reformed Baptist church. Watch out for people that worship the KJV Bible as the only Bible translation. The ESV, and NASB Bibles are excellent translations.
Look for a reformed church.
Jeff or anyone at apologia, do you still interpret the new heaven and new earth to be literal? Do you have any messages dealing with this atall?
Would really love a reply but God bless anyway if you cant!
Marcus Hughes Samuel e Waldron..Professor John Lennox. Dr. Lane Craig. I just found someone from “Grace Church” in Modesto California, there are tons of pastors that teach this. Reformed Baptist is the safest for me.
Here’s Dr. Ken Gentry’s website. postmillennialworldview.com/?s=New+heaven&submit=Search
There are more than a few on this channel that does explain it. The short answer is no. New heaven, new Earth is this new covenant brought by Christ's coming.
Does it MATTER?... either way.
@@noahjones5600 the way I see it is if its in the bible then it does matter. Plus, the way I interpret this will impact the way I interpret other parts of the bible and also will impact how I live. Stay blessed
That generation is us so...
Lol, no
The message at the beginning is basically identical to the message Matt Chandler does at the beginning of his videos. 🤔
My Son wants to move to where your church is in AZ God bless
Calvanism is heresy.
For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. - 1 Corinthians 3:4-6
No idea how that makes Calvinism heresy. Calvinism isn't about John Calvin, it's about John 6, John 10, Ephesians 1, Romans 9 & so on & so forth.
Ummmm...? To much to say but i still love him.
From what I've see there aren't many of those pastors u speak of.
This sermon on a Sunday?
Pls come to Italy
The issue is that people don't see it as a Dual prophecy, which is what it is. You can't see it or receive it without the Holy Spirit opening your eyes. I don't believe I am a prophet and I am not false.
I'd like to hear you explain away revelations. Although i do think you have some truth you definitely don't have it all.
I agree, but why could it not be a compound prophesy?
Liquid Cryo That’s a great point to note. As I challenged myself to study “dual fulfillment” I found that it is quite a slippery slope. How do we determine which prophecies have two (or more!) fulfillments? Is there another Messiah coming? Is there a second Second Coming? My conclusion is that Scripture is specific as to fulfillment of a prophecy in a single context, always. I can’t name a single prophecy that has multiple fulfillments. Brian Godawa has a great chapter in one of his books explaining the problems of multiple fulfillment theory, and many other theologians of previous centuries likewise reject the premise. I encourage you to examine both sides of the argument and come to your own conclusion. Peace!
@@osbujeff1 Thanks brother, I appreciate the info. Maranatha
What dod Jesus said about 2 nd coming?Do you believe HE will come back?Did HE talk only about that time? I am confused.0
Christ is coming back after he's put all his enemies under his feet. But he came in Judgment on Jerusalem in 70 AD exactly like he said he would.
yeah I think I'm with you. I think I'm more confused after listening to this video.
@Desire Of All Nations He wrote that before the destruction of the 2nd Temple so your argument is to my advantage. Not to mention God came multiple times throughout the Bible in Judgement so your understanding is a bit off.
@Desire Of All Nations In Judgement he did. You do know God came in judgment before right?
I would like for you to be my pastor!!
Pastor Jeff why restore the name of the FATHER but not the son?. Pastor Jeff if we never transliterate names why are we doing it for the two most important names in HIStory. it is commanded by the FATHER to not add or remove from the scriptures, so why are we accepting that fact with the names of the FATHER YAHUAH and HIS son YAHUsha, please explain I am having a really hard time with this Brother, please help.
All the time statements of His return, of "this generation" "soon" "near" " shortly " refer to one final coming to bring judgement and redemption, not some 3rd coming in between, let's not be afraid of what scripture reveals, but I'm telling the truth I am afraid of what the bible might lead full preterism is weird to me but it is accurate and on point that's what I'm afraid of but I have to go where the truth leads.
Andre, I appreciate your honesty and your dedication to biblical truth! You are right to grapple with some of the possible implications of preterism. I have spent the past 6 years working though eschatology, setting aside everything I was taught to believe or read, and now embrace moderate preterism. I have come to believe that the Second Coming, the resurrection, the judgment of all, and the recreated heavens and earth are future events. Full preterism does not stand up to consistent biblical doctrine, interpreting scripture in the light of scripture. Best wishes in your journey!
Third return...agree with you
A child is born
A man is crucified
Resurrection
Born first coming
Dies
Resurrection second coming
This is the best explanation of Matt. 24 I have found, hope it helps.
ruclips.net/video/4JhFV_TBhu0/видео.html
@@osbujeff1 Right, full preterism falls apart like dispensational pretrib rapture does.
All these video's do is confuse people. Is Jesus coming back or not? Are there going to be cataclysmic signs? Why are you making some of Matthew 24 literal and some figurative? Finally is Revelation relevant to us or not? If it all happened, then why should I read it to get a blessing?
Christ IS coming back. ALL authority on Heaven and Earth is his RIGHT NOW as he says in his ascension.
The secret rapture "Left Behind" version of the end of the world is modern fiction. It's a tradition only about 200 years old.
Christ will return to a conquered earth like 1 Corinthians 15:25 says.
We've got a LONG way to go but you should be thinking long term, just like the early church and most of church history did.
Watch this:
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Caitlin:: Great questions and you're right, I feel a strong need to not come back to this guy's videos.
@@MsDc52 Test everything by the scriptures my friend, hold on to the good. Durbin gives out much good.
Jeff’s preaching is spot on in my opinion and not confusing in the slightest. How do you people ignore all the many imminent time statements and audience relevance? To think that Daniel’s 70th week, Matthew 24 and Revelation are unfulfilled is baffling.
Peter and James were the super apostles Paul had problems with.
Boom
Loved your intro Jeff. That was spot on!
We should have only Christian plumbers!!!
The Egyptian magicians performed the first 2 signs including turning water to blood. Probably on a smaller scale, as most would have been red already. After that, No.
Matt 24 abomination of desolation refers to Daniel 11 and not Daniel 9
Read Daniel 9.
Then he shall confirm a [k]covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the [l]desolate.”
Abomination. Desolate. Desolate.
The hypocrisy of Durbin's concern about end times pretenders while literally endorsing Kanye's "pastor" Adam who did not even *_mention_* the word BELIEVE or FAITH or give the gospel in his "sermon" at Kanye's ecumenical nightmare is just _raw!_
Wait, I'm so confused.... what you're saying is that of Mathew 24 was not Jesus speaking about the distance future regarding His second coming then He said nothing at ALL about His coming?... that is the only time in the records of His time on earth in which He speaks of coming again in the future?.. prompted by the question from His disciples "what will be the sign of your coming?"...... He didn't come in that generation!?.. don't you need to do some mental gymnastics to make that fit?.
You keep saying "LET THE TEXT TALK!" well, let's let it talk then?... he is asked what the signs are of His coming, if you have to get around this then obviously you're not letting the text talk? You can't pick and choose when something is stated as it appears and then when something doesn't fit you force very convoluted interpretations to it?
None of this makes sense. I don't think it makes sense the other way around either because you're right that He said ALL these things will happen before that generation passes.
So the way I see it, we have a few options...
1. Jesus said absolutely nothing about His second coming at all during His life..
2. He was asked a question and He didn't answer it but instead told them what would happen in the coming years, rather than what the signs of His coming are, or..
3. This is contradicting because it's not true and the bible is fiction.
Like I said, makes no sense at all. None of it, from any angle.
You're right, preterism is confusing. It's not Biblical. "This generation" means the generation that sees ALL the signs will not pass until all those things are accomplished. The meaning is that the Tribulation will be confined to a short enough period (7 years) so that the generation that sees the beginning will see the end. Behold, He is coming quickly.
Listen to VODIE Bacham .... you’ll have a much better understanding.
@@carolberubee It's not confusing really, it's just not what we have been taught for the last 100 years. But it does all fit together.
This fancy pants, tattooed, fast talking con man thinks we missed the return of Christ
Why would Jesus say "this generation" WHILE HE'S LIVING IN THAT GENERATION? Straight blasphemy
@@carolberubee But wouldn't the term be "that generation"? I'm going to check the Greek on this I think, see if it's definitely "this".
You should have had 2 Peter 2 bookmarked.
There isn't one statement in scripture teaching amillenialism or that Jesus comes AFTER the 1000 years. We are not in the 1000 years for Christ and his saints are not reigning yet. Rv5:10 Rv2:25-27 Christ comes at the end of this age and this age is still ongoing. Mt13 Mt24:3
This isnt Amillenialism
Cinnamonbuns13 yes it is. Christ is not reigning yet and Christ hasn't returned yet. We are not in the 1000 years yet. The saints are still subject to human governments.
@@keithfuson7694 18And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Keith Fuson says: "Ok, we'll just wait for you to come get us."
Cinnamonbuns13 Right. Exactly. Jesus said in Jn14:3 I will come again. And He will. No king= no kingdom. You aren't reigning now. Not over the nations.Rv2:25-27 nor on the earth. Rv5:10. Christ and His saints are not now reigning for the 1000 years. Rv20:4,6 The kingdom of this world has not yet become our Lords and His Christ. Rv11:17 The kingdom has not been restored to Israel yet.Acts1:6,7 The body of Christ has not been snatched away yet to the celestial realm to be with Christ. 1Th4:13-18 You suffer from premature realization. And you aren't immortal yet either. 1 Cor15:50-57
Actually, the age whose end the apostles anticipated was the Jewish Age. They wrote their epistles in the Jewish Age. Though the church was planted by the primitive Christians, its age did not begin until after the cult of temple ended.
Is anyone else sick of "bible teachers" telling us how they are going to "unpack" a passage for us? That terminology just irritates me so much because it is extremely overused.
Could you unpack that comment for us?
@@kenmccracken5437 LOL,
Preterist? Are you headed to the Eastern Orthodoxy church as Hank Hanigraaff?
Check out the debate Hanigraaff had with Mark Hitchcock. Very eye opening.
I do enjoy your teachings most of the time, I'm so blessed that you stand for truth!!
However, I am dumbfounded that you think we are in the Millennial reign now! How completely foolish is that!!
Satan is not bound! Just watch the news and open your eyes!!
Its called dual fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Christ knew that you would teach this false doctrine saying " He was speaking only to those people in that generation in Jerusalem." That's why He put this verse in Mark 13 just for you dirtbin.
Mark 13:37 (KJV) And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
I used to subscribe to that idea too.
But its flaw is that you can't destroy the nation, people, city & Herods Temple again - its 'done & dusted' as they say.
Why do people try to put a comma, where God has put a period ?
Also Brother, rude & derogatory comments like 'dirtbin' don't honor the LORD OR help your point...
@@hellosunshine1090 jeff is not a brother but is twice dead plucked up by the roots.. I'll mock him just like Elijah mocked the false prophets of his day
@@recon0911 Wow very harsh - over Eschatology ?
How do you justify attacking a fellow Christian over end time views.
So you call anyone who doesn't agree with your eschatology an enemy ?
@@hellosunshine1090 I agree although I disagree with the end time theology he preaches I love Jeff Durbin and he does more for the faith than any of Stephen Anderson's followers and haters, such people are not born again, end times theology divides the best of minds however I dont think end times echatology is an issue to argue about we should focus on the here and now, abortion, evangelism and proclanation of salvational truths
Pastor Durbin, I love what you do when it comes to witnessing to the lost! You provide an excellent example for other believers. However, this is not true. We are in the end times!!! All you have to do is look at end times events through the nation of Israel. In addition to the 8/21/2017 total solar eclipse. That is a sign of God’s impending judgement on this nation. In addition to the evil that is on the rise in this nation. Corruption at the highest levels in our government, our national debt and and the rise of sexual freedom. Which is a characteristic of end time events. I love you Pastor and I pray that God would open more clearly your spiritual discernment into things of this present age. God has blessed you with a wonderful platform. It’s time to wake up Christians not keep them sleep by this interpretation of the scriptures. May God bless you brother!
Its interesting you disagree with what he says but instead of arguing from the scriptures which is what we use as our authority for what is true. You argue on what you see around you and what you think are signs that the world is ending and we are in the end times. Maybe we should look more at what the scripture actually says then all the events that we think are signs that the end is near.
Every generation since Jesus left earth has believed that we are in the End Times. They were all wrong. Eventually someone will get it right.
We are at least 1-2 generations away and quite possibly 100 or more years.
Jerusalem is Babylon - Babylon killed the PROPHETS, SAINTS & Jesus Christ. Carefully read these scriptures from the KJV.
Revelation 18:24
18 And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of PROPHETS, and of SAINTS, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Revelation 17:5-6
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, BABYLON The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the SAINTS, and with the blood of the MARTYRS of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Matthew 23:34-37
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you PROPHETS, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye SHALL KILL and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous ABEL unto the blood of Zachariah (A to Z from the first person killed to the last in the OT) son of Barachias, whom YE SLEW between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that KILLEST the PROPHETS, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have OF THE JEWS:
15 Who BOTH KILLED the Lord Jesus, and THEIR OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary (against) to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the WRATH is come upon them to the UTTERMOST.
Luke 13:34-35
34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Chris Coulter Hmm...I’m afraid that’s not entirely true!! And I say that because this is just a comment section. Not an 1hr and half sermon. However, Let’s start with my favorite which is the total solar eclipse! Let me ask are you familiar with Genesis 1, Luke 21, and Revelation 6? Did you know that Gods wrath is displayed from the heavens? It’s actually a really fun study!!
Matthew 24:4 So that’s interesting!! Did you know in the Old Testament the idea of something happening very soon goes back to the Old Testament. You should research the Day of the Lord!! Simply meaning that God has been receiving the end of the world way before Jesus came on the scene!! Which makes sense because if God views a day as a thousand years and a thousand years a day then simply going back 6000yrs wouldn’t even be a week in Gods time!! I appreciate your knowledge of the scripture and all though I agree with your verses. To argue Durbins position you would have to through out other texts. Which is why it’s not accurate! In addition your response reminds me of 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4!
Jerusalem is Babylon....Where does it say that? That in part is where your interpretation is not correct. And at that it’s mystery Babylon.
However I don’t disagree that people in the past have been incorrect. I mean isn’t that how 7th day Adventist’s got there start!? Nor am I leaning on date setting but Jesus makes it clear that you will recognize the season in which these events are to take place and geopolitically we see the same countries called out in the end times, clicking up right now as we speak!
John MacArthur is also a calvinist and he seems to be expecting rapture and the second coming of Jesus and the end times... This guy talks so much it's hard to understand what his message is
Anyone who believes this should watch the video "after the tribulation". I don't follow Anderson but it's a solid video.
How many people are in the seats . 4or 5 maybe .
look he is in 70 AD Roman armies Don't believe it, EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM
It's good that you preach to yourself. You need to listen to yourself and repent.
Where is it a Biblical command to get involved w/ a local church? Actually, from what I have studied, churches, as in buildings are unBiblical, or against the Great Commission.
We as chistians are the church. Why would you not involve in a local church?
Sharing knowledge and truth so the gospel can be spread more widely.
I think that's what he means.
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Broad road is the way to hell & narrow is the way to eternal life.
Always Honest what are you trying to say?
@@1977Jackofalltrades what are you trying to understand?
Always Honest what you meant with your comment.
@@1977Jackofalltrades what part dont you understand?
The scripture you're referencing does not say "Hell" it says destruction, nor does it say eternal life. It says Life.
We have no land of our own because of the Romans./Jews.
Mathew 23. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Now the blood of the saints is on their hands. And our bones scattered from the east unto the west. They killed us because we were Unitarian and Gods people they said no Jesus is God and the pope his victor.
Our prophesy fulfilled the English did this we survived and escaped and told people about our God and everything he did they had never heard of God had the Romans not been killing us and taking our bibles we wouldn’t have fulfilled this prophesy.
Isaiah 66: 19 I will set a sign among them, and I will send some of those who survive to the nations to Tarshish, to the Libyans and Lydians famous archers to Tubal and Greece, and to the distant islands that have not heard of my fame or seen my glory. They will proclaim my glory among the nations.
20 And they will bring all your people, from all the nations, to my holy mountain in Jerusalem as an offering to the Lord-on horses, in chariots and wagons, and on mules and camels,” says the Lord. “They will bring them, as the Israelites bring their grain offerings, to the temple of the Lord in ceremonially clean vessels.
i'm surpirsed that your beginning video you mentioned titheas though it is still in effect....not sure how anyone could be pa preterist and still believe that tithing is still in effect for today. Second point, you use the term "partner with us" which is a term most false prosperity Gospel preachers and organization use.... you speak one way yet provide many questionable signals, based on your vocabulary, that you are not as legit as you appear....humm
Gen 37;9-10 the sun moon and stars are rulers , authorities.
You have tattoos. That goes against the Bible. As I watch you preach with anger. A add popped up about the Mormon church . Right after you said temple.
YT controls which 'ads' are placed within a video. The creator doesn't have control over that.
We live under the New Covenant. The dietary and Ceremonial laws are no longer of any concern for Believers.
Anger and passion can be confused
You seem quite judgemental 😢
This is not a command to gather together once a week for 90 minutes INSIDE a building and sit quietly as a spectator while some hirelings sings some songs, gives a sermon, Biblical or not, every week. Assembling together can be done daily. This Scripture is vague, the church has twisted it to fit the church staff's meaning, keeping the hirelings in a standard of living usually higher and better than half those sitting in seats for 90 minutes being spoon-fed or bottle-fed what one man (the CEO of the CORPORATION, a profit making business ) wants to twist Scripture to justify his sermon.
Preterists have no BIBLICAL answer to the AOD, Not in light of 2nd Thessalonians 2 and Daniel especially chapters 11 and 12, There was no AOD set up in 70 AD
And who said what was scripture?? The early Church 🤷🏼♂️🤯
I know Pastor Durbin holds to a Preterist view and it sure seems that view has a number of problems associated with it. He uses Matthew 24 to say "This generation..." and true many of them did see a lot of what was written, but that doesn't invalidate a pre-trib view, as many if not most all O.T. prophecies had a dual fulfillment, specifically that to validate the prophecy was from God, there would be a short term fulfillment of the prophecy, but many also have a future fulfillment. Typing this, can't help but think about what God warned through out the O.T... God is clear to Israel walk in my statutes, i'll protect you, if not then is will ... God warns Israel a number of times finally say but if you don't beleive i will scatter you to the four corners of the earth. Along with this God say but in that last days God is clear that He will bring His people back into the land, even to the point the land would be barren but will cause the hills to flower once He brings His people back into the land...
Just saying this would be a short overview of the O.T. and what God prophesied about Israel, if one holds to a preterits view can't see all of the scriptures were fulfilled in 70A.D.'s destruction of the temple.
Next trouble point... Was the Holy Spirit taken out when the temple was destroyed in 70A.D.? Just saying God was clear about the tribulation will start only once the restrainer is taken out of the world and that from what we can read would be the Holy Spirit. But Christ was clear and said "i go away and it will be better for you for i will send the Holy Spirit, but rest assured I will never leave you nor forsake you..." Question is that and one of the main reasons i reject preterism if the restrainer is taken out, wouldn't that be leaving the Bride of Christ alone in the world? Or even a bigger problem God is clear He had not appointed us unto wrath... And clearly we see all men/people will suffer righteous plagues of God's wrath in the tribulation, as it says in
Rev 6:14 The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; 16 and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17 for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"
Just saying sure seems all the people will face God's wrath here... But absolutely clear here in:
1 Thes 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Sorry all those who believe and accept Preterism, don't see how some of the other related issues fit in to the rest of the story without contradicting a number of other passages...
I'm not a preterist but I don't think 1 Thes 5:9 is talking about wrath on Earth, but wrath in eternal judgement. Especially since it's juxtaposed with salvation.
@JESUS CHRIST is King of Kings Interesting then who is the one that retains evil spoken about in the Bible?
@@MansterBear Would ask you what is the purpose of the tribulation, what is it really all about? Or surely you can share the three names for the tribulation recorded in the O.T.? Also what exactly is the context in 1 Th 5 all about? Further compounding the the context and meaning about God not appointing believers to wrath?
@JESUS CHRIST is King of Kings Not sure why your comment make me think of Romans 2. Might do better then painting with a broad brush, where or what did i say that is wrong?
God didn’t bring the Jews back to Israel, Satan did.
Gods covenant with Israel was CONDITIONAL on the Jews being OBEDIENT (IF). They weren’t obedient, they rejected the prophets that God sent them, they rejected and killed Jesus. Compare Exodus 19:5-7 and 1 Peter 2:9-10.
Exodus 19:5-7 (KJV)
5 Now therefore, IF ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, THEN ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
7 And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the Lord commanded him.
Exodus 24:7-8
7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.
1 Peter 2:9-10
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Jerusalem is Babylon - Babylon killed the PROPHETS, SAINTS & Jesus Christ. Carefully read these scriptures from the KJV.
Revelation 18:24
18 And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of PROPHETS, and of SAINTS, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Revelation 17:5-6
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, BABYLON The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the SAINTS, and with the blood of the MARTYRS of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Matthew 23:34-37
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you PROPHETS, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye SHALL KILL and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous ABEL unto the blood of Zachariah (A to Z from the first person killed to the last in the OT) son of Barachias, whom YE SLEW between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that KILLEST the PROPHETS, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16
14 For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have OF THE JEWS:
15 Who BOTH KILLED the Lord Jesus, and THEIR OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary (against) to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the WRATH is come upon them to the UTTERMOST.
Luke 13:34-35
34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Amen, bro (but please, don't pic to easily on brother Todd)
Todd is no brother. He's a charlatan
I agree with Jeff on being a part of a local church. But when you apply the qualifications of it being led by biblically qualified elders that believe and teach the true scriptures in the Reformed tradition WELL, there are almost none. It has taken me 7 years to find a church with those qualities and it is 75 miles away. If not for the online Reformed teachers my family would never be able to hear any truly biblical teaching. The influence of the NAR, WOF, SOCIAL JUSTICE(lgbtq, feminism) BETHEL, HILLSONG, ELEVATION and the NEW AGE has all but ruined all of the churches around me. And l am in a very rural area.
What area if you dont mind me asking. I'll be praying for you all. I found one just 30 minutes away and I know how blessed I am just for that!
@@andrezzaf95 west of Dallas 175 miles
Trey we have almost your exact situation can relate very much.
We used to drive 130 mi every 2nd Sunday to a strong Reformed church. Great times & fellowship but wore us out.
By Gods grace a local SBC church here was either closing down (large bldg, Cong # dwindled from 800 to >100) - due to large variety of factors INCLUDING the SBCs double mindedness (long story).
1 or 2 of the Elders had noticed the Optimism inherent in a Reformed Postmillenial perspective & they called for & found a great candidate - PTL we now have a growing church once again. It's hard but rewarding work serious Reformation is done on our knees seeking Jesus humbly & being willing to reexamine all our false or questionable premises.
I would advise you search around I'm pretty his situation is not unique.
Meantime meeting as a family/house church is not unacceptable - it may be your season for it.
Pray for the LORD to link y'all with Reform minded believers & study together.
I think it was John Calvin who said if all local churches were corrupt (He prob meant 'Catholic') then He suggested private / family worship.
The Scrooby Manor congregation in early 1600s led by Pastor John Robinson gave off the Pilgrim Separatists that by 1620 emigrated to our Eastern Shores & planted the Colonies, the seed = USA.
So look what the LORD can do !
An over-reliance on Institutional church models is rampant today.
The tragic reality is that they as often as not, serve to make a congregation of timid non-fruitful sheep rather than loving, bold mature Disciples.
If we humbly ask Christ to call us & our wives & children to Him & lead us, the latter outcome is far likelier !
I believe real training in the Faith & Discipline of Christ begins first in the Home, then in the wider church body.
Oops sorry I've written a novel but your comment touched a nerve / reflects our reality too.
BTW we're in rural East Texas.
Approx where are you ?
Keeping ya in our prayers- David in Texas
@@hellosunshine1090 Thanks for the encouragement.God bless you
@@treythompson4103
Certainly likewise Brother !
A though occurred:
Pastor Jeff & Apologia church runs the end abortion now.com campaign.
They have 500 churches nationwide enlisted - ones that would be of similar mind.
Maybe some near to you ?
Scripture teaches that the coming of the Lord is at the end of the age not the end of time, His coming is at the the end of the old covanent age not the Christian age, His coming is at the" time of the end", you have to link 2 Peter 3 to 1 peter 4:7 it would be the end of the mosaic age not the destruction of the physical cosmos also it would be the new heavens and new earth, and the kingdom and the age of messiah, Hebrews 9:28 teaches he comes the 2nd time to bring salvation for those who wait for him, not a future 3rd coming, the second coming happens at the fall of Jerusalem, Jeff's partial preterism doesn't make sence.
No preterism makes sense, and full preterism is damnable heresy.
How do you explain Mathew 24:34, all the events in Mathew must occur before that generation passes away, and you can't separate Daniel 12 and 9 from Mathew 24 , the ressurection of the just and the unjust occurs as well, it can't be in our future, how do I handle this, I need help.
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"So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
~Matthew 24:33-34
Clearly, "this generation" refers to the generation that see the signs mentioned prior to the coming of the Lord, not necessarily the generation Jesus was speaking to at the time. This is what the context shows, and logic- as the resurrection obviously has not happened yet.
Who is the "You" in Mathew 24? Clearly it's the disciples and whomever was on the mount or near the temple, then if it was a future generation that Jesus would be speaking about then he would have said "that generation" but he dint he said "this generation". Pay attention to audience relevance, the list of things that were to happen in Mathew 24 would accomplished before ' this generation " passes away not " that generation" sometime in the distant future.
@@andrebias3534 You are ignoring the context. I just demonstrated that "this generation" is the generation that sees the signs of Christ's coming...i.e. the sun being darkened and the moon turned to blood.
It's obvious that the resurrection and the Second Coming of Christ have not happened yet as Scripture nowhere records their occurrence and the orthodox church fathers make no mention of their occurrence either.
My friend, you really just need to use some common sense here and stop getting hung up on one word like "this". It is so blatantly obvious that neither the resurrection nor Second Coming have happened yet that I can hardly believe we are actually having this conversation.
49 minutes into the message, when he shares about "signs and wounder," and he shared about Pharaoh's magicians their signs and wonders was an illusion. Magic is nothing more than an illusion.
All the gods Pharaoh served was proven false aka they did not exist.
The imaginary devil had no play in the illusion... The imaginary satan, if real, is not even omnipresent. The imaginary satan is always falsely accused...flip wilson mentality.
Preterism was still invented by the Roman Catholics as counter reformation doctrine. Doesn't matter how much you hate the crazies like Lindsay, Baker, Cahn, etc., they are wrong too. Your complete lack of understanding of prophecy shows your immaturity in Christ. Period.
Better not to speak than to show yourself a fool. Lost massive amounts of respect for you, but we were all children once, praying for you.
You make allegations without any evidence.
Postmillennialism was the dominant eschatological position until Darby / Scofield. For example, the Puritans believed in this system of thought.
I came to what is called preterism by reading the bible for myself. I took note of the many imminent time statements and read it through the eyes of the first century Christians. I didn’t know about preterism and I could care less if it was ‘invented’ by anyone.
Did he just call Todd White a charlatan? The Holy Spirit is real and so is His Power. I've laid hands on many people in the name of Jesus Christ and by the Power of the Holy Spirit they've been healed. Beware of those who deny the power of the Holy Spirit.
2 Timothy 3:5 King James Version
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Mark 16:17-18 King James Version
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
I would plead with you to avoid Todd White. The hypercharismatic movement is based on chasing experiences and feelings and I fell into that for a time in my early walk. If you like charismatic churches check out Calvary Chapel churches where they do book by book, verse by verse bible teaching. I don't agree with everything the Calvary chapels teach since coming to Reformed Theology but they are such a blessing for Bible teaching.
Todd White could not do what he does if God was not with him. I seek the Holy Spirit first before all things. To avoid Todd White would be to avoid the anointing of God on his life. The most important thing is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ and win souls for Christ. When the Pharisees rejected Jesus Christ he told them if you don't believe me then believe the works that I do.
John 10:31-39
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”
33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” 39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.
Greetings, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I will say always pray to God our Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to you. The devil does not win souls for Jesus Christ. Nor can a House divided stand.
Mark 3:22-27 NKJV
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, “He has Beelzebub,” and, “By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons.”
23 So He called them to Himself and said to them in parables: “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself, and is divided, he cannot stand, but has an end. 27 No one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. And then he will plunder his house.
Peace, Love and may you be Blessed and Highly Favored of the Lord 🙏
Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I'm not going to make any judgment calls or accusations on someone that I don't know. I live my life in service to the Lord. My family and I serve the Lord with everything we have. Baptized in water and fire, born again. Peace Love and God bless, may you be highly favored of the Lord.
Todd White is a wolf, a heretic and deceives many.
i wish he would stop wasting so much time repeating the same stuff from previous sermons. each sermon has been great, but he spends the 1st half hour saying the same things
Ray Ortiz but he is speaking to people 1 week at a time. We have the luxury of watching these one after the other, but they’ve received it over months.
@@James-wx9bf they get it each week and can watch online. its ok to do a recap to remember the flow, but he elaborates on the same thing week after week for too long. like the withering tree and say to this mountain, he explained that like 6 weeks straight
The Bible this guy reads from is so changed from the word it isn't funny. It's no wonder he teaches that we are all going to fly away. God knew back in the day that men would be pushing a narrative of flying away. Ezekiel chp. 13 vrs. 20 "Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly." I pray that people study the word for themselves and stop only getting the word of God from a man. Man can be a good source to bounce ideas off of, but most men that supposedly teach the word today don't actually get around to teaching any truth.
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@@Imperialbbuilding I thought the same thing about the video.
Jeff doesn’t teach we’re going to fly away. Quite the opposite.
Do not use the title pastor if you say you’re not my pastor. Instead use preacher, it is odd that you try to minister while claiming to not be a pastor.
So if he's not YOUR pastor he's not A pastor?
Simple logic will help you here. Jeff is a Pastor. He pastors Apologia Church. He is not YOUR Pastor.
Seems simple enough, friend. We encourage you to think a little more deeply and consistently.
Apologia Studios I mean this with respect and love, but your comment seemed a bit passive-aggressive, would you agree?
@@jamestyler9897 Apologia church was simply stating facts.
He is a pastor to those to whom he is addressing in this teaching.
We are just guests
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This is demonic.
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