I am so seriously sorry for your blindness as Christ said " they have not eyes and cannot see they have not ears and cannot hear " the only thing you can hear is what your itching ears want to hear ,I pray the Lord will give you ears ti hear and eyes to see that you can decern his truth! Amen
Winger denies the sovereignenty of Gods free will as opposed to mans free will! Chew on that really really chew ! Chew try Potters freedom read and chew enjoy
Man, God is speaking through you urging me to go to my local church. I’m a member of a church that I attended since I was very young. However, I haven’t been there in awhile and the Holy Spirit is speaking to my heart. Thank you, God bless you!
I used to attend a small country church from my first Sunday on this earth. As a teen, I drifted. I didn’t end up going back seriously till I was 27 after the birth of my first child. A few years in, and now with two kids I wasn’t feeling as feed as I used to. I wasn’t able to grow anymore it felt like. So I stopped going for a few years. I could see a change in my children, and I realized what the cause was. It was about that time that my grandfather had passed. He was the senior pastor, and a close friend of mine. It really hurt me, so I stopped going all together. I went from proclaiming his word in public to strangers, to not opening my Bible for years. The kids ended up going to the church in the small town we lived in. I seen them growing in there faith, and it started to convict me. Out of curiosity I attended one Sunday service, and I can not explain the joy that filled me to every molecule in my body. We ended up moving a few miles away over the hill to the next town. It was there that the new neighbor came to welcome us, and said if you were looking for a new church since you moved, you could come with us SOME Sunday. Didn’t push for the next Sunday, rather they said it a few times, SOME SUNDAY! Well I ended up getting convicted and went that Sunday. It was the second best decision I ever maid. Now I’m not comparing myself to Jesus, not in the least. I did feel like Jesus did though in the fact that he wasn’t taken seriously in his hometown, so he left. Now I can say that if I’m not working on Sunday, I attend in person. If I am working, I catch the livestream. What I’m trying to say is sometimes it’s good to change a venue. I don’t know you, same way you don’t know me. Just consider finding a different church that teaches the word of God. Sometimes we stop going for unseen reasons. I hope you have found a place to worship with like minded believers.
As a Christian I have committed myself to serving Jesus right now immediately... and throughout all eternity, no matter the circumstances apocalyptic or otherwise so if revelation indeed describes future events, BRING IT
It's already begun. Covid marks the 1st horseman. Start learning how to FAST (humans were never supposed to need 3 meals a day - its just serves big agro and medical industry). You'll be better suited to make it through the coming famine. Be blessed.
If you grew up being taught a Pre-Trib Rapture and a future Great Tribulation with an Antichrist, this preaching will completely turn you into a Postmillenial Theologian! Thank you Pastor Jeff for your deep, scholarly research for this sermon !
No. It won’t. Because it’s false. There IS a future great tribulation with an antichrist coming, it’s VERY clear. No matter WHAT he tries to say. And that has nothing to do with any pre-trib rapture at all either way.
I do enjoy his teaching but it doesn’t change my position. I would love to talk with pastor Jeff personally and asks some questions to go further in depth with what I believe in comparison to what he teaches.
I am a life-long believer in Christ, since the age of 4 when I prayed with child's faith to receive salvation. I've been a passive Baptist for most of my life, with short seasons of renewal but quickly becoming distracted. In the past few weeks, God has stirred a hunger in my soul for truth and knowledge of Him through Scripture. I am drawn to know it like never before, and to seek the fellowship and fullness of God's authority in my life that I've taken for granted. I've consumed several hours of these sermons this week, and I love how it doesn't satisfy me to simply hear them - they drive me into the Word! Thank you Apologia Church and Pastor Jeff for sharing these teachings from the Word of God.
I am undone........! To rest in the revelation of scripture revealed is liberating. Thank you again Jeff for your faithful service both to the Lord and his Holy scriptures.
So thankful to hear Jeff preach on the book of revelation. I was so invested in end times books as a new Christian about 15 years ago. This eschatology rocked my traditions. Let us not be divided as a body. If you have a belief on the end times that differs from this. That’s okay, I urge you to study, and draw closer to Gods word. His Lordship is a game changer in understanding all of this for me. He is victorious, we are redeemed. Hold fast to that truth.
I am sad that I existed in a belief that was merely tradition. How can someone understand when the teachers themselves have deceived themselves. Thankyou for giving your heart with the words of God. I have listened to many things you have said and if tears could fall from my heart they surely would. My sadness is for Jesus, I’m sad I never understood who he was, his incredible strength and his love that there is no word beautiful enough to describe. He has pillaged my heart and is the fierce lion that takes what is his, because with tears of shame and heaviness I wanted him too. I want to be his, I don’t deserve the honour to be his possession though even the tiniest place in his heart for me is the only life I need.
I agree. It's strange though. When I was an atheist I knew the bible better than when I came to God at first. As an atheist I read the Bible and scoffed at Christians who praised God but didn't understand that this judgement was already brought upon the covenant breakers. I mocked them for being ignorant. When I came to Christ I went STRAIGHT into the hands of other Christians and they were pre-mil. Once I went into a real phase of study I began to understand and see. I remembered these things. Then it all came together. The honest reading but this time WITH a submission to the Lord.
Christian Camargo Aww.. you lucky! I’m in Australia and I keep missing him because I never know when or where he’s coming. I’d love to meet him, it would be an honour!
Actually, wouldn't Jeff's view be more traditional (i.e. more in line with church history)? I mean, I get you--literal interpretation of the biblical eschatalogy has been adopted (and some would say originated) by total loonies. But there are respectable Bible believing people who still think it's more in tune with the whole of Scripture.
@@MJ-wi7oo I would say preterism that Jeff is teaching, and futurism that mainstream churches teach are Jesuit false doctrine. I would say Christian historicism (the staple of Protestantism for hundreds of years) is the correct way to understand bible prophecy. You should prayerfully research the subject for yourself with a desire to believe only what is true, no matter where that leads.
I have a local church but I have been taking care of my older dog that has cancer, so I can’t leave her alone and have been watching your videos as a sermon supplement. You are a blessing.
Thank you Brother Jeff for being yielded to the Lord! I need to pray and study more fervently. I was looking at Revelation all wrong and allowing others instead of scripture shape my understanding of scripture. Thank you Lord for opening my eyes to more of Your truth!!
I really appreciated your message at the start speaking about finding your own local church. I do love the way you preach Jeff and believe the Holy Spirit speaks. Thank you for your words and thank you Lord Jesus for speaking to us through servants like Jeff! May God bless you and keep you faithful and strong! Amen!
He’s speaking about the generation that SEES all of the things mentioned that he was speaking about. There WILL be a future great tribulation and there WILL be a man of sin, an antichrist. Period. End of debate. Revelation is very clear on that. This guy does not understand “already but not yet” theology at all.
Imagine not having been influenced by contemporary dispensational eschatology. Additionally, imagine that you are aware of OT messianic passages and are comfortable with apocalyptic literature. Finally, imagine that you are somewhat familiar with first century Israel and its social, political, and religious factors. Now you are ready to read John's Revelation and understand what it meant to first century Christians, for whom it was written. This is how proper biblical hermeneutics is done.
Absolutely. I swear, many Christians, especially here in the west, read the Bible like 21st century Christians. They fail to read it in the historical context of the first century readers. Revelation was written by John who was a Jew, and it was written to the Jewish followers of Jesus, and Revelation is filled with Jewish language, imagery, and symbolism everywhere that has direct ties to the Old Testament. We make up these crazy ideas of what we think the locusts are, what the horsemen are, etc. and we don't even ask the question: is this how the first century JEWISH followers of Jesus would've understood it as?
@@jacobgarcia4826 Ive heard people think the stings from those insects that kill were those Japanese giant wasps of today. Once you come out og being a futurist you can never go back
I SAY THIS WITH HUMILITY AND LOVE: Daniel 12:13 "But for you (Daniel), go your way until the end of your life; for you will rest and rise again for your allotted inheritance at the end of the age". Daniel has not arisen yet, so the end of age has not yet come. When Christ returns, the first trumpet will call the dead first 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Read. Do not lean to your own understanding.
Christen Ande Brown these things happened in the first century and are documented by Josephus and a few Roman historians that weren’t even believers and didn’t know what was happening when they recorded the events. Down to the trumpet....read War of the Jews by Josephus, it’s wild!
Amen, I came out of the premil view and all I’ve been taught. It’s been a hard fight but now things are coming together and your sermons along with RC Sproul have meant so much and are eye opening. Thank you.
I’m in San Diego Cali and there are no churches around me that I trust. If grace to you church was closer that’s where I would go. So for now you and pastor Baldwin and MacArthur are my pastors. Thank you for all you do.
So much clarity on these things, I have ALWAYS struggled with what these mean. Will reread Revelation and OT books with new lenses, thank you for posting these!!!
Jeff is wrong about Revelations. He isn't an authority on this aspect of God's word. It's not his fault, It was God's choice for it to be that way. The Beast is not Rome, the beast is the "one Satan uses to deceive the whole world" (this deception quote is near the end of rev). Has anyone deceived the whole world, ever? No. Don't misunderstand me, just because Jeff wants to believe he is right doesn't mean he is not correct about the majority of what his ministry teaches. His apologetics, i.e. Worldview supposition argumentation is correct. His view of Rev. came from "other people". One can only have an understanding in regard to these subjects by it being an innate gift from God. Most of the symbolic verses in rev. are not meant to be dissected and parsed out like Jeff has been taught. There are aspects of Rev. no one will ever know, it's planned that way by God. A lot of what Rev. discusses is being spoken to those people already in the other life. They are souls or in spirit. This following verse is separated from any connection to the prior message to the church discussed before it. It should be obvious because it says "churches". Rev. 2--11 "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt at all by the second death." If this message is being heard by people whose bodies have died, i.e. the first death. then the messages are being given to those who are already souls, spirits only...etc. They haven't suffered the second death. death of the soul, which is eternal condemnation.
LOVE 💕 this sermon thank you 😊 oh how I wish that I lived near Apologia church and I could attend. God Bless you guys and please continue to post these videos!
Man this is so good! I really hope you guys listen to the points that he made here because I believe that the culture is dead wrong about the Book of Revelation. Listen expecially to the points about the mountain being thrown into the sea. Let the Bible interpret the Bible because it comes from God and ultimately we are confused.
So, were is the New Jerusalem that has come down from heaven. Why is there a sun if God and the Lamb will be the light of the New Jerusalem? Were is the final judgement of Satan? Why is there still sin if Revelation has been fulfilled? This leaves to many questions unanswered.
Endtimeprophecy777 This is an easy answer. As the Bible tells us, the New Jerusalem is we the church. John introduces the New Jerusalem as the lambs wife, a bride adorned. You’re then taking that literal so you take the need for a physical sun literal. The final judgement is yet to come after the millennium and at that point sin is eradicated and the eternal state begins. Easy answers to basic questions.
Endtimeprophecy777 Correct, the final judgement and eternal state ensuing. But the New Jerusalem is not the new heaven and earth after the judgement. It’s the current bride of Christ. I’ve never heard him say that the final judgement has already happened
@@ericmillernow He didn't but, he is implying The Book of Revelation has already occurred. He is taking a purely preterist position. If not he would have stated that events in the past foreshadow the events which will take place in the future. Which he didn't.
Yes, from the beginning of Genesis 1st page, 1st line starts with Jesus and the old testament ends with Jesus is coming. The book is all about him! Every page in the bible is about Jesus....Jesus took the hand full of dirt/dust and formed Adam! Verse 3, Let there be light! God didn't create light until the forth day! But Jesus is the Light of the World.
Amazing Pastor Jeff, I only feel different about one thing...I think the silence in Revelation 8 is representing Gods heart being troubled knowing the hard but just judgement is coming.
Love &learned much from Pastor Jeff. Agree we shouldn't separate but but Deeply grieved about his escaltolgy though. One World is coming- keep preaching the gospel! I believe we will see who is right soon
ArielMinistries.Org has a free study course called, Come and See on their website. This is a very in-depth Bible study Old and New Testaments. I hope that will be helpful to you.
@@keitheye8719 Thank you. I think they believe in the rapture theory of Revelation and I definitely do not agree with that. Futurism/rapture is not a true interpretation of Revelation because it is of Jesuit origin from 1585. It was resurrected again by Darby...Irving and Scofield bible in 1820's forward to indoctrinate Christians. You can look these things up yourself and ask questions and research like I did and find out the truth. The entire Christian Church of the Ptrotestant Refrm. knew the anti-christ was the papacy and the beast was their gov't based in Rome.....for centuries they knew this. This is kept from Christians today and history is not taught. Even as wonderful as Jacob Prasch is, he is deceived by this. I a sorry to say it. But check it out for yourself! It is easy if you try and look. Check out Richard Bennett on you tube or Berean Beacon.org
@@laurenlimebrook9828 thanks for sharing your thoughts. We see the church in the first four chapters of Revelation. Then the church is not spoken of again, until Revelation 19:14 and the armies in heaven, clothed in white linen, white and clean, follow him on white horses. Why is it the church is not spoken of after chapter 4 in Revelation until chapter 19? and why is the church coming with him from heaven in the second coming?
@Jeff Durbin Thank you so much for this message, I grew up typically dispensational in my eschatology believing in insane ideas of fire breathing horses. But thes past few years since becoming reformed in my faith, I love Revelation so dearly because of how it exegetes the life of Jesus from the Old Testament. I really appreciate your ministry in the field of abortion and of the Mormons, God bless you, I hope I can speak with you one day! :)
This study was recommended as a great place to start to understand Post Millenialism. This is good stuff. Makes sense of so many things that just don't jive. Looking forward to next session.
You look too young for a grandchild! I love your sermons. It's great on a daily basis when not in Church ... Stamford Landmark Baptist Church. They are so wonderful and I'm in discipleship with the pastor's wife :)
Pastor Jeff God has given you great wisdom, I am deeply involved in a local fellowship. I personally so identify with the calling on your life and church And i respect your message to not make your ministry our pastor! This is a humbling approach and reflects the Holy Spirit who clearly dwells in your heart . Blessings and wisdom over apologia church. Love you big, and will definitely see you in the kingdom to come.
Jeff has some truth because he has some scripture knowledge but follow a Church that began say 2019 years ago instead of one that started in in the year 1530 or 1960 or the late 1990's when Jeff got sober. The Roman Catholic Church is the 1 True Church. Please listen to Scott Hahn and the real definition the Book of Revelation - this is what the Early Church Fathers thought of this book IT IS THE MASS "THE LAMB"S SUPPER" The Heavenly Jerusalem ruclips.net/video/IH8rHVb2vJw/видео.html
@Todd Ferguson That's weird as a Christian I follow what Chris said to to do, He set himself as the Head of a Church and Peter as his Prim minister why else did OUR LORD say this Matthew 16:18 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it.
@Todd Ferguson and I am sorry to break this too you but being a Christian does not involve some kind of Democratized system like you like to think of it in America. God set the rules with the Apostles and when he knew he was leaving them to be sacrificed for our sins he appointed a Prime Minster as all Jewish Kings did to carry the keys in his absence. I know there is a lot too dislike about the Catholic Church especially if you have been raised to hate it but read History. The early church practiced liturgical service and the Mass like it was shown to them by Christ in the upper room Study the Early Church Fathers and I celebrated Mass Sunday the same way as they describe celebrating it in the 1st 50 years after Christ rose from the dead. You are not a Christian if you are not faithful practicing Catholic that confesses his sins and receives the Christ - the Lamb of God. Jesus said to them, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. DROP YOUR PRIDE AND BE MEEK and HUMBLE YOURSELF to the HISTORY OF OUR LORD's CHURCH
@Todd Ferguson The Trueth and history is tough to take - all those things u said are not true they are lies u tell urself because of ur pride - we only worship god
@Todd Ferguson We call priest father - Go to mass and buy some History books Start with the wrightings of St Polycarp the best Student of John the Apostle
This is so clear and logical! It is hard to "unlearn" the false teachings that the premillennial dispensationalists have sown in my brain like bad seeds... Is the next thing to come Jesus' return and Judgment, without any prelude to watch out for (antichrist, great tribulation, etc.)?
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
We are not promised tomorrow so lets not spend our time worrying about it.. focus on doing your best to love God with ALL your heart doing whatever he asks of you and loving your neighbor.. God is teaching me how quick i am to pick up a rock and forget that i too deserve to be disciplined.. I’m not saying this guys right or wrong I’m just saying to pray into it and ask God to reveal what should be important to you on this day that he has given you.. i love you all for being so passionate to stick up for the bible and what it stands for but please put down your stones and when your down there get on your knees..
I think alot of people in the comments that disagree with Jeff don't want to know the truth, because they'd rather accept some form of default teaching they've clung on to since they were young.. Even when Jeff takes facts and pushes their meaning infront of your face, you'd still rather deny it than take it as biblical truth
I love you guys. You go above and beyond every video. I hope one day I can be as skilled in sharing the gospel as you are. Could you give me any advice?
Follow a Church that began say 2019 years ago instaed of one that started in in the year 1530 or 1960. The Roman Catholic Church is the 1 True Church. Please listen to Scott Hahn and the real definition the Book of Revelation - this is what the Early Church Fathers thought of this book IT IS THE MASS "THE LAMB"S SUPPER" The Heavenly Jerusalem ruclips.net/video/IH8rHVb2vJw/видео.html
@@andybarnick3006 Sorry Andy, but the RCC began in the 300s via King Constantine. You need to read history. The RCC is not Christian, only as the lost world views it. Some of the people within are members of God's family, as deceived as they are by the organization RCC. The word Church means: Called out group of people. One must receive the Call direct from God via hearing the Gospel. Do you know what the Gospel is?
"But you, oh MOUNTIANS of Israel, shall shoot forth your BRANCHES and yield your FRUIT to my people Israel, for they will SOON come home." Ezekiel 36:8 This was my reading after this video! 😂 Noticed all the words in one verse. Awesome
The key to your Matthew verse is until- or till ye say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. That's when they would see him in the second coming. When they repent and call on him whom they pierced. You shall not see me henceforth till, he say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord. Romans 11 makes it clear that this will occur at the end of the Gentile age then all Israel will be saved.
Kiedy dobiegał końca 70-cioletni okres niewoli Żydów w Babilonie, Daniel modlił się o uwolnienie. Teraz też, co czytamy w Objawieniu, modlą się dusze prawych o pomszczenie, właśnie króciutko przed tym wydarzeniem. Amen !
1 Peter 5:8? the devil is very real and alive today in this world crime is rampant we have satanic religions and distress of nations, etc. is the lion lying down with the lamb? don't think so.. Romans 1, 11, 25-26... you cannot even obey the Lord's command to keep a watch till the lord comes back. Mathew 24:42. your Preterist views destroys the literal meaning of the Bible and destroys the promise of his second coming... it leaves the church to bring in the kingdom without the king! you think your defending the power of Christ when you ARE denying it... there's no heavenly kingdom without a king, that's Christ Jesus.. it was NOT all fulfilled in 70 AD... following that dangerous path of liberalism. your all deceived.. where's the king?? I pray these few groups of preterist people see the truth soon...
@@brad8448 argue with The WORD(Jesus).... we have been in the last days since Jesus' first coming....Hebrews 1:2 KJV - Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
You might as well call it ‘last age’. Why not look at it from the original audiences perspective? They were in their last days, last days of the old covenant.
These topics are great for online learning. The problem is, not finding a church that teaches the same. So you either not attend a church or attend a church where they preach and teach the opposite of what you believe. But what is the point if you are sitting and mentally negating everything g coming from the pulpit and gaining nothing from the sermon? This needs to be addressed by those telling others how they need to attend church because it’s what the Bible commands…they make the one not attending church feel irresponsible while ignoring the irresponsible acts of these churches
Susan Kresser Sermons are not for the purpose of enjoyment, but edification. Jesus said to let the little one to come into him. Not all churches have children’s ministries and parents shouldn’t be kept from being edified for years while they have young children. Check your heart.
I suspect the 30 minutes of silence is based on Gods words "Rest a little longer till your number is complete" The pause may be to allow the time to pass before judgement continues using the prayers of the saints as a weapon.
I’d like Revelation 22:19 explained “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Two contradictory facts I read. And I’m no expert! One, salvation can never be taken away. Except this states very clearly it will be if you mess with the Bible’s words. Secondly, how can anyone re word the Bible and Christians still use? I use a KJV1611 with red letter where the words couldn’t be translated. But men have taken the Bible and re written! So explain...
Love these messages! Is there any way we can get an order of the messages on this and also your end times messages? Having a hard time finding part one for this. If someone can provide the link please do. Thank you!
After listening to this sermon I can't help but wonder if any part of the book of Revelation is prophetic to us today. Obviously sin is still prevalent in the world today and Jesus is still mocked as is the Father. Could Revelation be both historic and prophetic to us today? I would love to see Jeff do an in depth study on the whole book of Revelation.
Hello Pastor Jeff, I took a course on the Book of Revelation at my local Bible College and my eyes were totally opened. They taught some of the same things you did, context matters! I guess my question is, If Christ’s Kingdom has been established, then are there any prophetic texts that talk about the Second Coming? Thank you for your time!
Yes, "context" matters. And he is taking all kinds of things out of context. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse loose judgments on the whole "EARTH", not just Jerusalem in 79 AD. Absurd teaching. Revelation 6:4 "And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the EARTH, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword." Revelation 6:8 "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the FOURTH PART of the EARTH, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." 25% of people on planet earth die and he claims this was fulfilled in the tiny locale of Jerusalem in 70 AD? Totally absurd. Almost delusional. Perhaps we should say he is "amazingly creative" in his ability to twist the obvious meanings of Bible verses.
@@beaulin5628 The problem with your interpretation is you are imposing your 21st century thinking into the text. Earth is the Greek word for "land" which doesnt always mean the entire earth, but rather inhabited earth. Secondly, when studying the book of Revelation, one must look at numbers carefully as most are symbolic. I say all this as someone who does not hold to Jeff's interpretation either.
Jeff...do you offer a written teaching on this subject? I have watched many of your videos on it and cant seem to go back and find them to get verse references...i am just coming out of dispensationalism and am very intrigued by this teaching and the Lord is answering my prayer thru you brother!
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This guy, Mike Winger, Allen Parr, & Melissa Dougherty are seriously such a great help to me! I’m so thankful I finally found sound teaching.
Too bad they are idolaters worshiping the false triune god.
Winger is so humble,sincere, and knowledgeable.
I am so seriously sorry for your blindness as Christ said " they have not eyes and cannot see they have not ears and cannot hear " the only thing you can hear is what your itching ears want to hear ,I pray the Lord will give you ears ti hear and eyes to see that you can decern his truth! Amen
Winger denies the sovereignenty of Gods free will as opposed to mans free will! Chew on that really really chew ! Chew try Potters freedom read and chew enjoy
@@stevesosnick2638what are you even talking about…. ?
This is so rich that I sent it to my husband a retired pastor. I ate every word like honey. Thank you Jeff.
thank u for these sermons on victorious eschatology. sometimes we look at the circumstances and not the Victorious Christ
God Bless you pastor Jeff. Thank you for being faithful and preaching the truth.
Man, God is speaking through you urging me to go to my local church. I’m a member of a church that I attended since I was very young. However, I haven’t been there in awhile and the Holy Spirit is speaking to my heart. Thank you, God bless you!
Did you go? Or just empty words?
@@BiglariProductions you by
I used to attend a small country church from my first Sunday on this earth. As a teen, I drifted. I didn’t end up going back seriously till I was 27 after the birth of my first child. A few years in, and now with two kids I wasn’t feeling as feed as I used to. I wasn’t able to grow anymore it felt like. So I stopped going for a few years. I could see a change in my children, and I realized what the cause was. It was about that time that my grandfather had passed. He was the senior pastor, and a close friend of mine. It really hurt me, so I stopped going all together. I went from proclaiming his word in public to strangers, to not opening my Bible for years. The kids ended up going to the church in the small town we lived in. I seen them growing in there faith, and it started to convict me. Out of curiosity I attended one Sunday service, and I can not explain the joy that filled me to every molecule in my body. We ended up moving a few miles away over the hill to the next town. It was there that the new neighbor came to welcome us, and said if you were looking for a new church since you moved, you could come with us SOME Sunday. Didn’t push for the next Sunday, rather they said it a few times, SOME SUNDAY! Well I ended up getting convicted and went that Sunday. It was the second best decision I ever maid. Now I’m not comparing myself to Jesus, not in the least. I did feel like Jesus did though in the fact that he wasn’t taken seriously in his hometown, so he left. Now I can say that if I’m not working on Sunday, I attend in person. If I am working, I catch the livestream. What I’m trying to say is sometimes it’s good to change a venue. I don’t know you, same way you don’t know me. Just consider finding a different church that teaches the word of God. Sometimes we stop going for unseen reasons. I hope you have found a place to worship with like minded believers.
My faith has grown.
Praise the LORD.
May He keep blessing you.
There’s a soul winner’s crown waiting for this dude. Props and tearful gratitude from Washington, DC.
Revelation.
As a Christian I have committed myself to serving Jesus right now immediately... and throughout all eternity, no matter the circumstances apocalyptic or otherwise so if revelation indeed describes future events, BRING IT
It doesn't though. That is what he just explained.
It's already begun. Covid marks the 1st horseman. Start learning how to FAST (humans were never supposed to need 3 meals a day - its just serves big agro and medical industry). You'll be better suited to make it through the coming famine. Be blessed.
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If you grew up being taught a Pre-Trib Rapture and a future Great Tribulation with an Antichrist, this preaching will completely turn you into a Postmillenial Theologian! Thank you Pastor Jeff for your deep, scholarly research for this sermon !
No. It won’t. Because it’s false. There IS a future great tribulation with an antichrist coming, it’s VERY clear. No matter WHAT he tries to say. And that has nothing to do with any pre-trib rapture at all either way.
I do enjoy his teaching but it doesn’t change my position. I would love to talk with pastor Jeff personally and asks some questions to go further in depth with what I believe in comparison to what he teaches.
@louisybarra1277 you should see his 12 part series on Matthew 24. So helpful for me to hear it explained with so much Old testament scriptures.
Only if you don't know what the scripture really teaches...
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Which is ???
Antichrist rising ?
New World Order with cashless society?
Get the mark of the beast ?
Future Great Tribulation?
I am a life-long believer in Christ, since the age of 4 when I prayed with child's faith to receive salvation. I've been a passive Baptist for most of my life, with short seasons of renewal but quickly becoming distracted. In the past few weeks, God has stirred a hunger in my soul for truth and knowledge of Him through Scripture. I am drawn to know it like never before, and to seek the fellowship and fullness of God's authority in my life that I've taken for granted. I've consumed several hours of these sermons this week, and I love how it doesn't satisfy me to simply hear them - they drive me into the Word! Thank you Apologia Church and Pastor Jeff for sharing these teachings from the Word of God.
I am undone........! To rest in the revelation of scripture revealed is liberating. Thank you again Jeff for your faithful service both to the Lord and his Holy scriptures.
Amen to all of that!
So thankful to hear Jeff preach on the book of revelation. I was so invested in end times books as a new Christian about 15 years ago. This eschatology rocked my traditions. Let us not be divided as a body. If you have a belief on the end times that differs from this. That’s okay, I urge you to study, and draw closer to Gods word. His Lordship is a game changer in understanding all of this for me. He is victorious, we are redeemed. Hold fast to that truth.
I thank the Lord for blessing me with these videos. Praise God!
This was so amazing. I will be listening and studying and listening some more, with all of this treasures in the Holy Scriptures!
I am sad that I existed in a belief that was merely tradition. How can someone understand when the teachers themselves have deceived themselves.
Thankyou for giving your heart with the words of God. I have listened to many things you have said and if tears could fall from my heart they surely would.
My sadness is for Jesus, I’m sad I never understood who he was, his incredible strength and his love that there is no word beautiful enough to describe. He has pillaged my heart and is the fierce lion that takes what is his, because with tears of shame and heaviness I wanted him too. I want to be his, I don’t deserve the honour to be his possession though even the tiniest place in his heart for me is the only life I need.
Anton Domazet God bless you, don’t underestimate the love of our savior we are the reason He came to died for people like us
This was beautifully said!
Eloquent spirit
I agree. It's strange though. When I was an atheist I knew the bible better than when I came to God at first. As an atheist I read the Bible and scoffed at Christians who praised God but didn't understand that this judgement was already brought upon the covenant breakers. I mocked them for being ignorant.
When I came to Christ I went STRAIGHT into the hands of other Christians and they were pre-mil.
Once I went into a real phase of study I began to understand and see. I remembered these things. Then it all came together. The honest reading but this time WITH a submission to the Lord.
@@robertknight3354 Thank you for your awesome testimony!
Got the chance to meet Pastor Jeff. Such a humble saint. God bless your family and yourself Pastor Jeff 💕🙏🏻
Christian Camargo Aww.. you lucky!
I’m in Australia and I keep missing him because I never know when or where he’s coming. I’d love to meet him, it would be an honour!
He's no saint, but a pastor.
Many are still sticking to that traditional false eschatological theology. Pastor Jeff thank you for this
Actually, wouldn't Jeff's view be more traditional (i.e. more in line with church history)? I mean, I get you--literal interpretation of the biblical eschatalogy has been adopted (and some would say originated) by total loonies. But there are respectable Bible believing people who still think it's more in tune with the whole of Scripture.
You are right tho
What is the false teaching?
@@MJ-wi7oo: Depends who you ask...
@@MJ-wi7oo I would say preterism that Jeff is teaching, and futurism that mainstream churches teach are Jesuit false doctrine.
I would say Christian historicism (the staple of Protestantism for hundreds of years) is the correct way to understand bible prophecy.
You should prayerfully research the subject for yourself with a desire to believe only what is true, no matter where that leads.
I have a local church but I have been taking care of my older dog that has cancer, so I can’t leave her alone and have been watching your videos as a sermon supplement. You are a blessing.
If my allergies weren’t so bad in Phoenix, I would consider moving there so Pastor Jeff could be my Pastor. He is so freakin smart.
Thank you Brother Jeff for being yielded to the Lord! I need to pray and study more fervently. I was looking at Revelation all wrong and allowing others instead of scripture shape my understanding of scripture. Thank you Lord for opening my eyes to more of Your truth!!
I really appreciated your message at the start speaking about finding your own local church. I do love the way you preach Jeff and believe the Holy Spirit speaks. Thank you for your words and thank you Lord Jesus for speaking to us through servants like Jeff! May God bless you and keep you faithful and strong! Amen!
This message has blessed me greatly! Thank you!!!
The Lord said: Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
He’s speaking about the generation that SEES all of the things mentioned that he was speaking about. There WILL be a future great tribulation and there WILL be a man of sin, an antichrist. Period. End of debate. Revelation is very clear on that. This guy does not understand “already but not yet” theology at all.
@@dazdavis7896lol ok
Yup, when Christ said this generation, He didn’t mean a 21st century generation 2000 years in the future, lol..
Thank you. Just thank you so much. To God be the Glory.
GOD bless you for being so faithful to the word!!!
Thank you for a great message. It defiantly is causing me to rethink my ideas on prophecy.
1:20:00 oh Jeff, you make me cry with awe and thanksgiving!!🙌🏼 ✝️♥️🙏🏻🌬️
Wow! That was THE most powerful message I’ve ever heard! I pray it blesses you as well!
So appreciate your introduction and encouragement to be involved in local church! It’s so right.
It is wholly evident that Jeff LOVES the Word of God.
Imagine not having been influenced by contemporary dispensational eschatology. Additionally, imagine that you are aware of OT messianic passages and are comfortable with apocalyptic literature. Finally, imagine that you are somewhat familiar with first century Israel and its social, political, and religious factors. Now you are ready to read John's Revelation and understand what it meant to first century Christians, for whom it was written. This is how proper biblical hermeneutics is done.
Absolutely. I swear, many Christians, especially here in the west, read the Bible like 21st century Christians. They fail to read it in the historical context of the first century readers. Revelation was written by John who was a Jew, and it was written to the Jewish followers of Jesus, and Revelation is filled with Jewish language, imagery, and symbolism everywhere that has direct ties to the Old Testament. We make up these crazy ideas of what we think the locusts are, what the horsemen are, etc. and we don't even ask the question: is this how the first century JEWISH followers of Jesus would've understood it as?
@@jacobgarcia4826 Ive heard people think the stings from those insects that kill were those Japanese giant wasps of today.
Once you come out og being a futurist you can never go back
I SAY THIS WITH HUMILITY AND LOVE: Daniel 12:13 "But for you (Daniel), go your way until the end of your life; for you will rest and rise again for your allotted inheritance at the end of the age". Daniel has not arisen yet, so the end of age has not yet come. When Christ returns, the first trumpet will call the dead first 1 Thessalonians 4:16. Read. Do not lean to your own understanding.
Christen Ande Brown these things happened in the first century and are documented by Josephus and a few Roman historians that weren’t even believers and didn’t know what was happening when they recorded the events. Down to the trumpet....read War of the Jews by Josephus, it’s wild!
@@Flerftardia, hmmm...I do not see anything in "War of the Jews" declaring that Daniel rose from the dead. to receive his allotted inheritance.
Wouldn’t these verse be referring to the resurrection? Why would it mean just Daniel ?
Daniel Medrano you would need to watch the whole video to understand the context.
Amen I agree, none of the believers in Christ have risen yet and he has not returned yet either, Revelation has still not been fulfilled.
Amen, I came out of the premil view and all I’ve been taught. It’s been a hard fight but now things are coming together and your sermons along with RC Sproul have meant so much and are eye opening. Thank you.
Beautifully and wonderfully executed brother durbin, it is so powerful and ah inspiring when our Lord and our God's Word is rightfully handled
most excellent. illuminating. i'll have to check out witness to mormons.
What a precious study. Really drawing out of the text what I didn't understand before.
I’m in San Diego Cali and there are no churches around me that I trust. If grace to you church was closer that’s where I would go. So for now you and pastor Baldwin and MacArthur are my pastors. Thank you for all you do.
So much clarity on these things, I have ALWAYS struggled with what these mean. Will reread Revelation and OT books with new lenses, thank you for posting these!!!
Jeff is wrong about Revelations. He isn't an authority on this aspect of God's word. It's not his fault, It was God's choice for it to be that way. The Beast is not Rome, the beast is the "one Satan uses to deceive the whole world" (this deception quote is near the end of rev). Has anyone deceived the whole world, ever? No.
Don't misunderstand me, just because Jeff wants to believe he is right doesn't mean he is not correct about the majority of what his ministry teaches. His apologetics, i.e. Worldview supposition argumentation is correct. His view of Rev. came from "other people". One can only have an understanding in regard to these subjects by it being an innate gift from God. Most of the symbolic verses in rev. are not meant to be dissected and parsed out like Jeff has been taught. There are aspects of Rev. no one will ever know, it's planned that way by God. A lot of what Rev. discusses is being spoken to those people already in the other life. They are souls or in spirit.
This following verse is separated from any connection to the prior message to the church discussed before it. It should be obvious because it says "churches".
Rev. 2--11 "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt at all by the second death."
If this message is being heard by people whose bodies have died, i.e. the first death. then the messages are being given to those who are already souls, spirits only...etc. They haven't suffered the second death. death of the soul, which is eternal condemnation.
@@icanfartloud I appreciate your username
Thank you. Awsome preacher
LOVE 💕 this sermon thank you 😊 oh how I wish that I lived near Apologia church and I could attend. God Bless you guys and please continue to post these videos!
Me too!!
Love the message Pastor. Aww to your little girls. That is a cute story.
Man this is so good! I really hope you guys listen to the points that he made here because I believe that the culture is dead wrong about the Book of Revelation. Listen expecially to the points about the mountain being thrown into the sea. Let the Bible interpret the Bible because it comes from God and ultimately we are confused.
Dope message pastor Jeff, very thought provoking
So, were is the New Jerusalem that has come down from heaven. Why is there a sun if God and the Lamb will be the light of the New Jerusalem? Were is the final judgement of Satan? Why is there still sin if Revelation has been fulfilled? This leaves to many questions unanswered.
Yes it does, but that is because he was not dealing with those other questions in this sermon. Go to FB and ask Him your questions.
Endtimeprophecy777 This is an easy answer. As the Bible tells us, the New Jerusalem is we the church. John introduces the New Jerusalem as the lambs wife, a bride adorned. You’re then taking that literal so you take the need for a physical sun literal. The final judgement is yet to come after the millennium and at that point sin is eradicated and the eternal state begins. Easy answers to basic questions.
@@ericmillernow My point is this is not all in the past. there are events which still must take place.
Endtimeprophecy777 Correct, the final judgement and eternal state ensuing. But the New Jerusalem is not the new heaven and earth after the judgement. It’s the current bride of Christ. I’ve never heard him say that the final judgement has already happened
@@ericmillernow He didn't but, he is implying The Book of Revelation has already occurred. He is taking a purely preterist position. If not he would have stated that events in the past foreshadow the events which will take place in the future. Which he didn't.
Yes, from the beginning of Genesis 1st page, 1st line starts with Jesus and the old testament ends with Jesus is coming. The book is all about him! Every page in the bible is about Jesus....Jesus took the hand full of dirt/dust and formed Adam! Verse 3, Let there be light! God didn't create light until the forth day! But Jesus is the Light of the World.
Amazing Pastor Jeff, I only feel different about one thing...I think the silence in Revelation 8 is representing Gods heart being troubled knowing the hard but just judgement is coming.
Love &learned much from Pastor Jeff. Agree we shouldn't separate but but Deeply grieved about his escaltolgy though. One World is coming- keep preaching the gospel!
I believe we will see who is right soon
There is no rapture theology though. No 7year tribulation either. That is all a very terrible lie!
@@beppiek I am studying and that is why I said what I did.
ArielMinistries.Org has a free study course called, Come and See on their website. This is a very in-depth Bible study Old and New Testaments. I hope that will be helpful to you.
@@keitheye8719 Thank you. I think they believe in the rapture theory of Revelation and I definitely do not agree with that. Futurism/rapture is not a true interpretation of Revelation because it is of Jesuit origin from 1585. It was resurrected again by Darby...Irving and Scofield bible in 1820's forward to indoctrinate Christians. You can look these things up yourself and ask questions and research like I did and find out the truth. The entire Christian Church of the Ptrotestant Refrm. knew the anti-christ was the papacy and the beast was their gov't based in Rome.....for centuries they knew this. This is kept from Christians today and history is not taught. Even as wonderful as Jacob Prasch is, he is deceived by this. I a sorry to say it. But check it out for yourself! It is easy if you try and look. Check out Richard Bennett on you tube or Berean Beacon.org
@@laurenlimebrook9828 thanks for sharing your thoughts. We see the church in the first four chapters of Revelation. Then the church is not spoken of again, until Revelation 19:14 and the armies in heaven, clothed in white linen, white and clean, follow him on white horses. Why is it the church is not spoken of after chapter 4 in Revelation until chapter 19? and why is the church coming with him from heaven in the second coming?
Excellent teaching! Thank you!
Thanks
That was so great, praise be to the Lord Jesus for grabbing you and putting you to work for such a thought provoking message. Bless you brother!
Thank you for these .... thank you. From the deepest part of my soul, thank you. 🙏🏼
Thank you Jeff
Wow! Thank you Apologia church! This is awesome!
In thier day words meant something. Had one perfect meaning undistorted and a man's word held true
I loved this! Very convicting. And challenging.
Awesome sermon
Love the messages!
1 min in and I’m already loving it!!
@Jeff Durbin
Thank you so much for this message, I grew up typically dispensational in my eschatology believing in insane ideas of fire breathing horses. But thes past few years since becoming reformed in my faith, I love Revelation so dearly because of how it exegetes the life of Jesus from the Old Testament.
I really appreciate your ministry in the field of abortion and of the Mormons, God bless you, I hope I can speak with you one day! :)
Amazing. Thank You.
This study was recommended as a great place to start to understand Post Millenialism. This is good stuff. Makes sense of so many things that just don't jive. Looking forward to next session.
Great teaching Ever thought of starting an online Bible Institute
God bless you!
You look too young for a grandchild! I love your sermons. It's great on a daily basis when not in Church ... Stamford Landmark Baptist Church. They are so wonderful and I'm in discipleship with the pastor's wife :)
Pastor Jeff God has given you great wisdom, I am deeply involved in a local fellowship. I personally so identify with the calling on your life and church And i respect your message to not make your ministry our pastor!
This is a humbling approach and reflects the Holy Spirit who clearly dwells in your heart .
Blessings and wisdom over apologia church.
Love you big, and will definitely see you in the kingdom to come.
Jeff has some truth because he has some scripture knowledge but follow a Church that began say 2019 years ago instead of one that started in in the year 1530 or 1960 or the late 1990's when Jeff got sober. The Roman Catholic Church is the 1 True Church.
Please listen to Scott Hahn and the real definition the Book of Revelation - this is what the Early Church Fathers thought of this book IT IS THE MASS "THE LAMB"S SUPPER" The Heavenly Jerusalem ruclips.net/video/IH8rHVb2vJw/видео.html
@Todd Ferguson That's weird as a Christian I follow what Chris said to to do, He set himself as the Head of a Church and Peter as his Prim minister why else did OUR LORD say this Matthew 16:18
18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades[b] will not overcome it.
@Todd Ferguson and I am sorry to break this too you but being a Christian does not involve some kind of Democratized system like you like to think of it in America. God set the rules with the Apostles and when he knew he was leaving them to be sacrificed for our sins he appointed a Prime Minster as all Jewish Kings did to carry the keys in his absence. I know there is a lot too dislike about the Catholic Church especially if you have been raised to hate it but read History. The early church practiced liturgical service and the Mass like it was shown to them by Christ in the upper room Study the Early Church Fathers and I celebrated Mass Sunday the same way as they describe celebrating it in the 1st 50 years after Christ rose from the dead. You are not a Christian if you are not faithful practicing Catholic that confesses his sins and receives the Christ - the Lamb of God.
Jesus said to them, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.
DROP YOUR PRIDE AND BE MEEK and HUMBLE YOURSELF to the HISTORY OF OUR LORD's CHURCH
@Todd Ferguson The Trueth and history is tough to take - all those things u said are not true they are lies u tell urself because of ur pride - we only worship god
@Todd Ferguson We call priest father - Go to mass and buy some History books Start with the wrightings of St Polycarp the best Student of John the Apostle
This is so clear and logical! It is hard to "unlearn" the false teachings that the premillennial dispensationalists have sown in my brain like bad seeds... Is the next thing to come Jesus' return and Judgment, without any prelude to watch out for (antichrist, great tribulation, etc.)?
I sure do love your videos, your a great teacher
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Amen brother.
We are not promised tomorrow so lets not spend our time worrying about it.. focus on doing your best to love God with ALL your heart doing whatever he asks of you and loving your neighbor.. God is teaching me how quick i am to pick up a rock and forget that i too deserve to be disciplined.. I’m not saying this guys right or wrong I’m just saying to pray into it and ask God to reveal what should be important to you on this day that he has given you.. i love you all for being so passionate to stick up for the bible and what it stands for but please put down your stones and when your down there get on your knees..
I think alot of people in the comments that disagree with Jeff don't want to know the truth, because they'd rather accept some form of default teaching they've clung on to since they were young.. Even when Jeff takes facts and pushes their meaning infront of your face, you'd still rather deny it than take it as biblical truth
It's a victim mentality. People identify as victims of their oppressors and are afraid to give up that identity.
Thank you
I think you are more of a teacher than a preacher brother. Sermons are like a term paper - :)
I love you guys. You go above and beyond every video. I hope one day I can be as skilled in sharing the gospel as you are. Could you give me any advice?
I agree these guys are great.
Study the Word, learn from the Word and godly men and Pray, pray, pray... God bless you wherever He wants to put you for His glory.
Follow a Church that began say 2019 years ago instaed of one that started in in the year 1530 or 1960. The Roman Catholic Church is the 1 True Church.
Please listen to Scott Hahn and the real definition the Book of Revelation - this is what the Early Church Fathers thought of this book IT IS THE MASS "THE LAMB"S SUPPER" The Heavenly Jerusalem ruclips.net/video/IH8rHVb2vJw/видео.html
@@andybarnick3006 the first true church are the laodicean chirch and they are the lukewarm church..
@@andybarnick3006 Sorry Andy, but the RCC began in the 300s via King Constantine. You need to read history. The RCC is not Christian, only as the lost world views it. Some of the people within are members of God's family, as deceived as they are by the organization RCC. The word Church means: Called out group of people. One must receive the Call direct from God via hearing the Gospel. Do you know what the Gospel is?
"But you, oh MOUNTIANS of Israel, shall shoot forth your BRANCHES and yield your FRUIT to my people Israel, for they will SOON come home." Ezekiel 36:8
This was my reading after this video! 😂 Noticed all the words in one verse. Awesome
The key to your Matthew verse is until- or till ye say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. That's when they would see him in the second coming. When they repent and call on him whom they pierced. You shall not see me henceforth till, he say blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord. Romans 11 makes it clear that this will occur at the end of the Gentile age then all Israel will be saved.
Awesome stuff
So good.
Lv my LORD JESUS
The elect in Christ in the REAL story to follow for the future.
I have christ word in my hand :)
The High Priest will see Jesus return in the clouds. The HP was alive in the 1st century.
Wow!
Kiedy dobiegał końca 70-cioletni okres niewoli Żydów w Babilonie, Daniel modlił się o uwolnienie. Teraz też, co czytamy w Objawieniu, modlą się dusze prawych o pomszczenie, właśnie króciutko przed tym wydarzeniem. Amen !
Very solid message!
Amen Jordan!!!
1 Peter 5:8? the devil is very real and alive today in this world crime is rampant we have satanic religions and distress of nations, etc. is the lion lying down with the lamb? don't think so.. Romans 1, 11, 25-26... you cannot even obey the Lord's command to keep a watch till the lord comes back. Mathew 24:42. your Preterist views destroys the literal meaning of the Bible and destroys the promise of his second coming... it leaves the church to bring in the kingdom without the king! you think your defending the power of Christ when you ARE denying it... there's no heavenly kingdom without a king, that's Christ Jesus.. it was NOT all fulfilled in 70 AD... following that dangerous path of liberalism. your all deceived.. where's the king?? I pray these few groups of preterist people see the truth soon...
Amen, he picks and chooses certain versus to help support his point of view but then ignores the rest of scripture smh
Pastor Jeff you age well sir
We are in the last days brother...and have been for 2000 years....
If that were true the Bible should have called it “the last years.”
@@brad8448 argue with The WORD(Jesus).... we have been in the last days since Jesus' first coming....Hebrews 1:2 KJV - Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
You might as well call it ‘last age’. Why not look at it from the original audiences perspective? They were in their last days, last days of the old covenant.
These topics are great for online learning. The problem is, not finding a church that teaches the same. So you either not attend a church or attend a church where they preach and teach the opposite of what you believe. But what is the point if you are sitting and mentally negating everything g coming from the pulpit and gaining nothing from the sermon? This needs to be addressed by those telling others how they need to attend church because it’s what the Bible commands…they make the one not attending church feel irresponsible while ignoring the irresponsible acts of these churches
Loved the sermon. Please people take your kids out of the meeting if they are not quite, so others can enjoy what’s being said.
Susan Kresser Sermons are not for the purpose of enjoyment, but edification. Jesus said to let the little one to come into him. Not all churches have children’s ministries and parents shouldn’t be kept from being edified for years while they have young children. Check your heart.
I suspect the 30 minutes of silence is based on Gods words "Rest a little longer till your number is complete" The pause may be to allow the time to pass before judgement continues using the prayers of the saints as a weapon.
If you applied this hermeneutic to the issue of baptism you would be a Presbyterian. Great sermon
Josephus actually mentions a half an hour, i think it was around when the city gate had lifted up by itself
I’d like Revelation 22:19 explained
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Two contradictory facts I read. And I’m no expert! One, salvation can never be taken away. Except this states very clearly it will be if you mess with the Bible’s words. Secondly, how can anyone re word the Bible and Christians still use? I use a KJV1611 with red letter where the words couldn’t be translated. But men have taken the Bible and re written! So explain...
@ApologiaStudios, do you have a blog where this look at Revelation would be written down? I'd love to share this in writing to my pre-trib friends.
Love these messages! Is there any way we can get an order of the messages on this and also your end times messages? Having a hard time finding part one for this. If someone can provide the link please do. Thank you!
After listening to this sermon I can't help but wonder if any part of the book of Revelation is prophetic to us today. Obviously sin is still prevalent in the world today and Jesus is still mocked as is the Father. Could Revelation be both historic and prophetic to us today? I would love to see Jeff do an in depth study on the whole book of Revelation.
Hello Pastor Jeff,
I took a course on the Book of Revelation at my local Bible College and my eyes were totally opened. They taught some of the same things you did, context matters! I guess my question is, If Christ’s Kingdom has been established, then are there any prophetic texts that talk about the Second Coming? Thank you for your time!
Yes, "context" matters. And he is taking all kinds of things out of context. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse loose judgments on the whole "EARTH", not just Jerusalem in 79 AD. Absurd teaching.
Revelation 6:4 "And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the EARTH, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."
Revelation 6:8 "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the FOURTH PART of the EARTH, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."
25% of people on planet earth die and he claims this was fulfilled in the tiny locale of Jerusalem in 70 AD? Totally absurd. Almost delusional. Perhaps we should say he is "amazingly creative" in his ability to twist the obvious meanings of Bible verses.
@@beaulin5628 The problem with your interpretation is you are imposing your 21st century thinking into the text. Earth is the Greek word for "land" which doesnt always mean the entire earth, but rather inhabited earth.
Secondly, when studying the book of Revelation, one must look at numbers carefully as most are symbolic. I say all this as someone who does not hold to Jeff's interpretation either.
Did you mean the "last Adam"(1 Corinthians 15) not "second Adam" second Adam is not found in the Bible... But I can see what you meant.
Jeff...do you offer a written teaching on this subject?
I have watched many of your videos on it and cant seem to go back and find them to get verse references...i am just coming out of dispensationalism and am very intrigued by this teaching and the Lord is answering my prayer thru you brother!