I know it’s so difficult and time consuming to do… but if apologia put out a commentary on the whole bible… I cannot imagine the impact that it would have. To have all of those cross references putting the OT and NT pieces together in the way they are supposed to be understood would be absolutely ground breaking
I am convinced you come to the same conclusions Jeff Durbin does in this sermon by simply reading the whole counsel of the Bible without the previous frameworks of premillennialism taught in our modern churches. I taught premill Revelation in a Bible study in depth for two and a half years. This past year I have finally tried to read Scripture shredding any preconceived concepts I had. The Spirit can make it so simple and clear when we are really just trying to read the Word, stripping ourselves of all our personal notions we might bring to it. It humbles me to think about how prideful I can be, even in how I interpret God's Word.
I started reading in context 9 months ago and I have been tracking and noting things that I'm now realizing are explained by a post mil eschatology. I agree. It seems like if you just read in context these things become clear
@gerry mackle your attempt at “debate” has left you without a Christlike approach to the conversation, That is what makes you sad in my eyes. Also I don’t know how you determine who is in heaven or in hell when you have had no opportunity to have knowledge of such things. Even by your standard of what determines people good enough, Calvin could in theory came to “salvation” towards the end of his life by pleasing the “GREAT” Gerry mackle and entered into the pearly gates of Mackleville. Please step off your high horse and join us little people to have a civil discussion.
This was such a wonderful revelation for me! I just recently committed to reading the word from Genesis to Revelation and am currently in Ezekiel as I listened to this sermon. In light of everything I've learned in my readings over the last month or so, this interpretation of the text, and especially of the imagery, is absolutely consistent with how the Lord works. This is amazing! Thank you for sharing 😁
I feel so much joy. Our Lord has this! I still don't know hardly enough, but I am starting to see through the fog of understanding the beginning of who our God truly is. Tears again at the end when my understanding continues to grow in who my Lord and Saviour is and what He has truly done and continues to do. Amen ❤❤❤
I can't express enough how profound of a message this is.. not only had I seen these things since becoming reformed but to have such detail laid out in such a beautiful way really brought me to tears.. especially when the Priest said as Jeff quoted, "We have no king but Cesar"... Tha k God for God's sovereignty and divine will, that WILL come to pass, and nothing can thwart it. To Jesus be the Glory, Amen! God bless all those that hear this.
Great job Jeff. I'm reading Kenneth Gentry's "He Shall Have Dominion". I pray for your ministry. That it will reach the church with this eschatology of hope. That people will take the great commission literally. Stop looking to CNN to understand the book of Revelation and chapter's like Matthew 24. Realize we have the Holy Spirit and are equipped to be workers in his Kingdom that is NOW. Our God is doing wonderous acts around the world despite the sleepy Christianity that is predominantly in the West. We have so many unreached people groups (including western churches). Let us be about the work of making disciples for Messiah gathering in all his people he has called to his glorious family. Thank you for your preaching. Your understanding of Van Til, Bahnsen, Rushdoony, North, Jordan, and Gentry. May your ministry raise up theonomic thinking men and women who are willing to serve God in civil service at the city, state, and federal level. Not afraid to proclaim the crown rights of Christ in all of life!!
The new covenant has the names of those its established with written in it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the names of the non Israelites??
@@israelisaiah5149 The New Covenant is for all the nations. I'd be here all day if I named every book, chapter, and verse. Old and New Testament. Try reading the whole book.
Also in 1 & 2 Chr, the bronze lavar was called the sea. Rev 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away and the sea is no more.
Jeff lies alot - example the new covenant has the names of those its established with written in it - why is he telling ppl who's names are not written in it that they are apart of it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the names of the non Israelites??
@Obadiah 1:18 definitely fulfilled. And for anyone to say part of Rev is finished and not all is to call the writer a false prophet Deut 18:15-22. Revelation 1:1-1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. Revelation 22:10-12 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. The gospel is never ending Revelation 14:6 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, The church and the world is forever Ephesians 3:20-21 20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
@Obadiah 1:18 the idea is not too go back to the Old Covenant. Many people here in America don't act like the nationality their families come from, they act like Americans.
@@Playlist849236 God describes ur characteristics from A to Z as well as the things u folks would do in the future examples👇 The creation of the image of the beast aka white jesus (romans 1:22-25)(revelation 13:14)(job 9:24)(1st maccabees 3:48) Take lands by sword (genesis 27:38-41)(habakkuk 2:3-5) Enslave ppl go to the moon live in caves - even ur symbol the eagle (Obadiah 1:1-4) Calls u by name as rulers of mystery babylon aka america (psalm 137:7-9) The list goes on but its made emphatically clear in sripture that u folks are E. S. A. U
Jeff is lying - example the new covenant says the names of those its established with so why is he telling ppl who's name are not written that their apart of it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the names of the non Israelites??
Jesus is literally saying the old covenant will pass away but the new covenant will never pass away When God gave his words or his covenant to Israel it was considered the establishment of heaven and earth in scripture. Jesus in Matthew five and in Matthew 24 was speaking about the destruction of the covenant world of Israel So yes heaven and earth has passed away and the new heaven and earth have come which would mean that the Old Testament law passed away and the new covenant law of Christ has come! Great message Pastor Jeff!
No you are making assumptions, please understand you leaped to a conclusion that is directly explained by paul in several places. I mean this humbly.The law is still in effect but it doesn't condemn nor glorify us. It is the expression of God's goodness on earth. The holiness code of thr law has been fulfilled in Christ but the judicial and civil law should still be applied. That doesn't mean the punishments necessarily not to the letter of the law but to the spirit of the law. For example part of the law is to put a fence on your roof for safety. Well how can we do that today. Putting a fence around pools. Making sure our properties are safe. Jeff likes to quote this one which full disclosure is where ive gotten it from. And if you look at the way Jesus spoke to the pharisees then it'll make sense from that view point. Basically its like putting a fence on your roof and saying there ive done what God said but your pool is wide open for a kid to fall in.
@@repentorperish1386 Can you state the places where Paul explains your opinion? Also If nothing of the Law is gone, how do you explain Matt 5:18 "18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."
@@repentorperish1386 Ty for the reply, if you get a chance to site the scripture to backup your claim it would be much appreciated. I want to make sure my believes are correct or to challenge them. If not no worries, take care brother.
When we mix the old covenant (OT) w/the new covenant (NT) it's like being married to Jesus (the bride of Christ) & committing adultery, or having an affair w/Moses. It reminds me of a verse I read somewhere (I forget where) that said something along the lines of; Thou shall not commit adultery. Amen 😉👍
Most Postmillenialists (myself included) see a future where all the Jews will come to Christ. Some even think that the conversion of the Jews will cause a massive boost to the preaching of the gospel and global revival.
John 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. “God has not cast away His people,whom He foreknew.”
Times of the gentiles....fullness of the gentiles....compare them. Many believe e them to be the same and fulfilled in the first century fulfillment most likely
It only took an hour to MENTION the new heaven and new earth. This was more a talk about revelation in context. Who resides in the new heaven ? Who resides in the new earth ? If god is going to literally live with us on the new earth, what is the new heaven for?
I became Postmil recently, and part of that was being heavily influenced by these kinds of sermons from Pastor Jeff. But I’m a little confused: they did an Apologia Radio episode debunking Full or Hyper-Preterism, and now Jeff is saying that Revelation 22 isn’t the eternal state? Hopefully someone from Apologia sees this comment and can clarify this for me. I totally agree that in eternity the nations won’t need healing, but I don’t quite understand how that isn’t Full Preterism to believe that Revelation 22 is already fulfilled and is not talking about the eternal state
@Britton Wood, I’m not from Apologia church but maybe we can think through this... full preterism would mean Christ is not going to return, because his returning in judgment on the nation Israel is all there ever will be.
@Britton Wood, I don’t remember what exactly he said about Rev 22 but I think he was saying the new Jerusalem is the church which exists now, the churches victory which I believe is pictured in that chapter has yet to be completed. That’s what I think anyways.
It is the logical step after continued studying of Post mill. Because you will eventually realize that the new heavens and new earth are not literal. It is the Old Cov vs the New Cov, the law the stocheia from Gal 4 is the 'elements' that burned in fervent heat. After that it is tough to say salvation didn't come and judgment didn't come but everything else happened...
I come to you all as a Humble servant with all sincerity, peace to all that read this.. May it find you well...Please read all!! If you have any questions I will be happy to answer. Brother I would like to share one thing... You are not where you think you are in Prophecy.... Jesus says come.. all you who HUNGER AND THIRST.. and freely received your reward... It is the New Covenant... He wants to teach you Himself and all you have to do is Understand things remained Hidden so that you could be preserved... He has set a fire Kindled against the DARKNESS.. and if these days were not Shortened... none would be saved... Step into the Light of our Messiah SPOKEN since the foundations of Creation that He came to reveal to His SERVANTS.. HIDDEN THINGS of the PROPHETS and His DISCIPLES...they all mention it!! AS IN ISAIAH 48:6 that it cannot be denied... all was foretold from the beginning...and nothing was done without Him...The Messiah!! Trust in Christ and He will share with you the Key of David which is UNDERSTANDING!!!! So that this COVENANT will be fulfilled JEREMIAH 31:38 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." Man will no longer teach the Word of God.. He will do it Himself!! DO NOT TRUST IN ME.. I am just a lowly Servant He set long ago to share this... He says FAST... Beware of the LEAVEN of the Pharisees and Scribes which sold His servants into slavery... This Captivity was meant by man for evil.. But God meant it for Good.. So we would be preserved and the wicked could be starved out... Eat the UNLEAVENED BREAD OF LIFE of Jesus Christ...JOHN 1:1-5 Tied to Genesis 1:1-5 Explains much... But Christ is the Word, our Bread of Life... He wants to dwell in all ways with you all NOW!! Repent, FAST, OPEN THE WORD BE BAPTIZED IN THE LIVING WATER OF CHRIST. Let Him dine with you and He will Heal your Blind Eyes... open your deaf EARS... Isaiah 58:6-10 6 “Is this not the fast that I have chosen: To loose the bonds of wickedness, To undo the heavy burdens, To let the oppressed go free, And that you break every yoke? 7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry, And that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out; When you see the naked, that you cover him, And not hide yourself from your own flesh? 8 Then your light shall break forth like the morning, Your healing shall spring forth speedily, And your righteousness shall go before you; The glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard. 9 Then you shall call, and the Lord will answer; You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’ “If you take away the yoke from your midst, The pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness, 10 If you extend your soul to the hungry And satisfy the afflicted soul, Then your light shall dawn in the darkness, And your darkness shall be as the noonday. With the Love of Truth I share this with you.. God is waking up His chosen.. The remnant that sleeps in the dust... As He did with Moses, He says seek out your BROTHER because He has the Gift of SPEECH!! Free His people... Like I said.. Do not TRUST ME...TRUST IN YOU LORD...HE SENT ME!! HE WILL REVEAL ALL... WELL UNLESS I'M WRONG AND I AM A COMPLETE NUT JOB WITH CHRIST IN MY HEAD... Which in any case seems crazy to me as well!! In love of Christ our Messiah, the Right Hand of God!!Be Blessed BROTHER!! STAY FAITHFUL
The Catholic Church has been teaching this for 2000 years. Is good to hear modern Protestant churches finally starting to teach the Jewish roots of the teachings in the Bible. Good job!
Mr. Durbin, I agree with a great deal of what you are saying and have written on it myself- as you know. However, IMHO, your attempt to posit another New Creation at some imaginary end of the current age, is untenable. I would love for us to engage in a formal debate on our differences. Are you willing?
Hey Don! thanks for all the time and work you put into your material. It would be great if that debate happens, because im currently being challenged by covenant escathology and i struggle to find a solid biblical refutation. Im still on my journey to investigate the FP view. Your books have given me a lot to think about!
@@williambrewer Sorry, William, that does not work: The judgment of all men is at the end of the millennium-- Revelation 20:10f. The judgment of all men is at the coming of the Lord. But the coming of the Lord in judgment of all men was at hand, coming soon, shortly and quickly when John wrote- Revelation 22:12. Therefore, the end of the millennium was coming soon, shortly and quickly when John wrote Revelation.
Mr. Durbin, since Dr. White is not willing to debate Don Preston on eschatology, I would love to see a debate between yourself and Mr. Preston. Although you make a lot of really good points in this sermon, I'm afraid you're not taking what you're saying to it's logical and biblical conclusion.
@@merecatholicity well, that's a typical response. I'd actually like to hear what Mr. Durbin's interpretation of "Heaven and Earth" is in 2 Peter 3. Does he believe "Heaven and Earth" was destroyed in 70 AD? Is the New Heaven and New Earth in Isaiah 65 created immediately after the destruction of Old Covanent Israel, i.e. "Heaven and Earth"? This lesson leaves so many questions to be answered in my mind.
@@Orangeokie7 I agree, this lesson does leave a lot of questions unanswered. I would imagine that he does take 2 Peter 3 as referencing the collapse of the temple, with the new creation constituting the new covenant. My theory is that most partial preterists mistake the "parousia" and that is why they seem inconsistent trying to make the parousia both 70 AD and the second coming. This inconsistency is what leads to full preterism. However, I think this can be resolved when one comes to a clearer understanding of "parousia."
@@rickymoosdorf2448 Ricky, thanks for clearing that up for me. I wonder why Tertullian, Ireneaus and many of the church leaders wrote that John was sent to Patmos during the reign of Domitian (ad 81-96)and it wasn’t until Nervas reign (96-98) that John was released back home to Ephesus according to Tertullian. Jerusalem was destroyed in ad 70.
@@TribeofZebulon it couldn't be referring to the maccabees john hycranus converted them - obadiah say they would be exterminated obviously a future prophecy and hasnt happened yet even to this day E. S. A. U - the God given ethnicity of all europeans who are called by name not inly as rulers of mystery babylon aka the EU but also as recieving a very unfriendly visit from the messiah upon his 2nd coming (isaiah 63:1-6)(psalm 137:7-9)(revelation 18:5-10)
@@TribeofZebulon When Jerusalem Fell is great on dating the book of Revelation, by Ken Gentry. Its a long dry read.. But given the words and history, it is very safe to say that it was pre.
Does anybody know what reference James White Gave Jeff during the message at about the 52:00 - 52:20 minute mark? Jeff asks James if it was Pink’s commentary on Hebrews that expands upon the idea that this is referring to the destruction of the old covenant order. I couldn’t make out what James tells him. It was kind of garbled and muffled to hear what James response was.
This was awesome and i am totally there, however, I don't quite know how the understanding of the new heavens and new earth being the new covenant meshes with 2 Peter 3:10-13. Seems like after Jesus comes back, the current heavens and earth are destroyed and a new one will be made. Help?
God bless y'all. I am having a problem hearing this great teacing, the volume is so low. I want to share it but I'm concerned my friends will not be able to hear it. Can you help me? Thank you
Haha, amazing sermon until the end. He just went through a whole host of passages logically and biblically proving their fulfillment and then at the end says we're still waiting on it?? How if you just went through all of the scriptures that talk about a new heaven and earth and affirmed it was here now?
@@Yela927 My point is that Jeff is now using the cult rhetoric that the blasphemers in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult use. They too have "a New Covenant Heaven and Earth." They claim that this "New Covenant Heaven and Earth" replaced the "Old Covenant Heaven and Earth" in AD 70. I would argue that "Heaven and Earth" a proper noun that describes "an old orderly arrangement" is NOT in reference to "the Old Covenant." I fear that Jeff is flirting with disaster, and that he will taste of it too, because of his Partial Preterism views that interlock with the Full Preterism of Max King, William Bell, and Don K. Preston in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult.
@@Yela927 I'm born again by the love and power of God for 30 years. This is not about me. This is about taking a "covenant view" of Heaven and Earth. I can see Jeff slipping into more and more error.
Something that stands out to me about this sermon is that it seems that Jeff’s understanding of “Jews” and “Gentiles” is misunderstood. There is a Israelite understanding of the word... but to call it “jewish” is giving too much weight to modern day blasphemers that claim to be of the tribe of Jude.
I'm with you but what do we do with Is.66:23 and the mention of all flesh worshipping YHWH on New Moons and Sabbaths? I thought New Covenant did not include these.. Also in verse 17 - speaks of judgment on those consuming swine and idol worship.. but New Covenant theologians primarily confirm that Lev. dietary laws do not apply to New Cov. members.
Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. I believe this is speaking about the Jews in the first century who had rejected God’s covenant. These were the ones who were hardened for judgement...... Isa 65:8 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all. 9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. 10 And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me. 11 But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. 12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not Matt 3:7 ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. Rom 11:7 ¶ What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. 9 ¶ And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Israel was separated into two groups. Those who feared God and kept His covenant and those who rejected Him. Those who rejected Him were kept out of the new covenant and hardened so they would receive judgement. Those who feared God were given over to Jesus so that they would find rest from the works of the law for righteousness. Matt 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Matt 23:1 ¶ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. Jesus said the law was a heavy burden, grievous to be born. He would give them rest. The new covenant began after His death and resurrection. As for your other question.... Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. That’s every day. It’s no longer a special day of just the sabbath or just a new moon. It’s from one sabbath, all the way to the next...... Acts 2:46 ¶ And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, That’s what they did. Every day is for the Lord in the new covenant. Every day is Holy. God bless.
Jeff, who are His covenant people? Is it just the Jews of the day? Aren’t there 11 other tribes? We’re they not the sons of Jacob? The NT is the Gospel message to those tribes (Gentiles), when the two sticks become one. Jesus was speaking about the destruction of Jeruzalem and as Josephus noted not a Christian was killed.
Jerusalem is actually called Egypt, spiritually. ”and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.” Revelation 11:8
Why are you at apologia attacking Gary DeMar? Jeff’s sermon says what Gary has been saying. Jeff says there will be a future coming of Christ. Will he please do a sermon on that so he can show us all where he gets that teaching from the scripture. Until then he should back off and apologize to Gary. This is hypocritical, let’s discuss the issues as Gary is asking for
I was tracking along in agreement until about the final 1 minute mark, where you went off the rails with a soon "ultimate final victory". Disagree. Believers are already resurrected, even in our perishable bodies. Biblical death is spiritual. Adam died spiritually in the garden. The death was spiritual and so also is the new life. That "ultimate final victory" is already now! No need to hope for something that you already have. I give you a 99% sir! "Whoever believes in me shall never die".
I have a question. Is the rapture not biblical? I have been taught that Paul teaches this. I just discovered tbis channel and pastor Jeff is amazing I love your videos but I was surprised to sse that in the chat for this sermon. I wanted to ask when things calmed down. Can someone explain this to me please?
Let's also not venture beyond the text and argue that there is a future from us 2nd coming. Scripture puts the end of the age, coming of the NH NE, salvation, resurrection and judgment all at the same time (burden of proof is one those who descent from this). If all those other things occurred, then the 2nd coming occurred as well even if some don't like the nature of the 2nd coming. Jesus said he would come on the clouds. Just as the LORD came on a cloud into Edom...not literal. But as pulling the Babylonian army against Edom...So too Jesus came on a cloud pulling the Romans into Jerusalem. I am open to a future return, but need evidence from the text that shows different from the coming on clouds at the same time as the end of the Old Covenant, temple etc...
The last enemy was physical or spiritual death? Obviously, spiritual death was defeated by the work of Christ. Paul, if talking about physical death being defeated, Christ did that as well...for the scripture places the resurrection at the time of the judgment of the covenant breakers! AD 70...
Was paul not speaking to those who thought this all took place in 70 ad when he wrote second Thessalonians. 1: Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, 2: not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3: Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, 4: who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God
I’m super confused is he claiming the second coming has already happened and we are already living in the new Heaven and new earth? Is he a full preterist? What the heck is this?
Oh ye of little faith, to think that God wont shake the heavens like a fig tree shedding its fruit. You say it was from of old Jeff, but why would God do it once and not twice or even thrice. Beware of leading in assumption Jeff, for if you yourself are not lead by the spirit of the Word, you yourself will lead others astray.
GOD IS NOT A LITERAL TORTURER. GOD is LOVE. He only gives eternal life to those who exercise faith in him and his Son (John 3:16, John 14:1) and NOT TO WICKED people. The Wicked will VANISH AND WILL BE NO MORE. Psalms 37:20 Phil 2:12 - New King James Version Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; How many is Jehovah? Trinitarians say there are THREE Jehovah. What does the Bible say? There is ONE JEHOVAH and NOT THREE JEHOVAH. Deut 6:4. - “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah WHO IS THE STAR IN NUMBERS 24:17? That is Jesus. It is the same Hebrew word used in Job 38:7 for the morning stars. So as Jesus is called THE BRIGHT morning star (REV 22:16) so also are the other morning stars(angels). So Jesus is the CHIEF Angel with the archangel's voice (1 Thes 4:16). Jesus is called Prince of Peace in Isa 9:6 and the original Hebrew word for Prince means PATRON ANGEL which is the same Hebrew Word used for Michael the archangel in Daniel. Jesus is the High Priest and the High Priest is NOT GOD himself. GOD DOES NOT WORSHIP HIMSELF : John 4:22 -You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. Jesus Included himself IN WORSHIPPING THE FATHER. ONLY A CREATION WILL WORSHIP GOD. If the holy Spirit is a PERSON then now you have MANY PERSONS IN ONE GOD. REV 5:6 - seven eyes, and the eyes mean the seven spirits of God.SO NOW YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL SEVEN PERSONS IN GOD. Who is the cause of Salvation? Both GOD and the lamb are saviors, Rev 7:9-10, even Jesus needed to be saved by the Father from death as the Father is the SOURCE OF LIFE AND SALVATION , Hebrews 5:7 & John 5:26 - THE FATHER GAVE THE SON LIFE. Does the Bible called Jesus MADE AND BORN? Yes! JESUS is the Messiah and a CREATION BY GOD! He is called “BORN OF/FROM GOD”. (1 JOHN 5:18) Hebrews 1:5 showed that Jesus was MADE/BORN (orig Greek-gennaw). Also it says "he will become my son" Notice, FUTURE TENSE, WILL, so before that the SON DID NOT EXIST. If you are BORN AND MADE then you are a creation. , Hebrews 1:5 mentions I WILL BECOME HIS FATHER, so Jesus relationship with the Father has a BEGINNING, When ? it was TODAY. TODAY implies a beginning. Also Acts 2 mentioned GOD MADE JESUS as Lord and Christ. HEBREWS 1 :5 - the original greek word used there for begotten/born also means MAKE. so Jesus, the SON was MADE. Word: gennaw Pronounce: ghen-nah'-o Strongs Number: G1080 Orig: from a variation of 1085; to procreate (properly, of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively, to regenerate:--bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring. G1085. When did Jesus become SON? Even before Jesus became human he is called SON , Prov 30:4 Was Jesus GIVEN LIFE? He is called the firstborn and beginning of the CREATION BY GOD (COL 1, Revelation ) Also john 5:26 mentions that the FATHER GAVE JESUS, THE SON, with LIFE. If Jesus was given LIFE OR EVEN ETERNAL LIFE, then Jesus does not have life or eternal life before those were given to him. Notice, the Father was NOT given life. JESUS was MADE LORD (ACTS 2:36).JOHN 6:57 - Jesus Said “ I LIVE BEC OF THE FATHER” SO JESUS’ LIFE was dependent on the Father and his SOURCE OF LIFE/Eternal Life IS THE FATHER as John 5:26 states as well. 1john 5:1 - Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God,+ and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one . who is this that HAS BEEN BORN from that one? That is Jesus! 1 John 5:18 - Jesus is called BORN FROM GOD JESUS IS BORN FROM GOD, 1 JOHN 5:18 - We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, but the one born from God* watches him, and the wicked one cannot take hold of him . WHO is the ONE BORN FROM GOD that watches us and protects us and who does not sin? JESUS CHRIST! HAS ANYONE SEEN GOD? NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD and if they see GOD's face THEY WILL DIE. Jesus was seen by many and they didn't DIE so Jesus Is Not The Almighty God. Jesus is called SON even before coming to earth as human. Exo 33:20 states "“You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”" NO MAN CAN SEE ME, notice ME , you think ME IS NOT LITERAL? IT IS LITERAL "ME" WHO IS GOD. GOD IS FROM FOREVER: John 1:1 mentions the WORD WAS IN THE BEGINNING, so Jesus was LIMITED "IN THE BEGINNING" Unlike GOD who is FROM FOREVER (Psalms 90:2). Is "a god" a valid translation in John 1:1? Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1. The Greek used in the BIble does not have an indefinite article "a" so that's why you don't see the "a" in John 1:1, The Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1. again, john 1:1 about theos - Strong's Concordance theos: God, a god , so "a god" is a valid translation. "The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon" defines theos as "a god" as well. so it is a valid translation. Also Thayer's Greek Lexicon also defines theos as "a god" so it is a valid translation Is Jesus the same as Jehovah? Jesus is the SON. Jehovah is Our FATHER (Isa 63:16). Even the trinity doctrine states the SON IS NOT THE FATHER, so Jesus is NOT JEHOVAH How many person is GOD? God said " I am God Almighty", The use of I am, means GOD is ONE PERSON. Do you use I am, me, myself, me alone for ONE LITERAL PERSON or THREE PERSONS? You only use those phrases for ONE literal person and NEVER FOR THREE PERSONS. Is Jesus described as a Morning Star like the Angels? Yes. Rev 22:16 - 16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David+ and the bright morning star.’”+ JESUS IS THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR, Angels are also called morning stars in Job 38:7, so Jesus is the BRIGHT OR CHIEF OF THE ANGELS (archangel) as 1 Thessalonians 4:16 mentions. What does Firsborn means? So depending on the context the firstborn can be the chief, principal, or first in time or place or rank. Still though, when you use the firstborn with an OF, “firstborn OF”, because of the OF , that means the firstborn BELONGS TO THE GROUP, just like when you say firstborn of the sheep. The firstborn is a sheep. So Jesus belongs to the group of creation, firstborn of all creation. Does John 8:58 correlate with Exodus 3? In Exodus 3, GOD is called I WILL BECOME (not I am) and does not correlate with John 8:58 Word: DID Pronounce: haw-yaw Use: TWOT-491 Verb 1) to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out Jehovah is called GOD of gods, who are these gods? if you say that those are all false gods, then you are saying that GOD is like Satan as he is God of all false gods. Those gods exist, just like King of kings, those kings exist. Is Jehovah, GOD's name? Psalms 83:18. Strong's No.: H3068 Hebrew: יְהֹוָה Transliteration: Yᵉhôvâh Phonetic: yeh-ho-vaw'" and even the BIBLE mentions the God's followers containing his name. Jehoshaphat, jehu, etc. With all Jehovah, the God of the Bible. Yes. Jehovah is God in the Bible, the Our Father (JEHOVAH) ISA 63 AND WHO IS JAH , JEHOVAH that is WORTHY OF PRAISE AND GLORY! ISA 26:4 - 4 Trust in Jehovah forever,h For Jah* Jehovah is the eternal Rock. JEHOSHAPHAT(MATTHEW 1 :8) - Easton's Bible Dictionary Jehovah-judged. Easton's Bible Dictionary Jehovah-judged. Smith's Bible Dictionary Jehoshaphat - (whom Jehovah judges.) Yup, JEHOVAH is the name of GOD IN THE BIBLE as his followers have the name of Jehovah in their name. What was Jesus role in creation? He is the Master Worker (Prov 8) and a channel used by GOD in the creation. Notice the TWO WORDS translated as By/Through in Col 1:16 - 1. En - a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively),.. Notice it says INSTRUMENTALITY 2. Dia - a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act Notice it says CHANNEL OF AN ACT So Colossians 1:16 simply mentions that Jesus is USED BY GOD AS A CHANNEL OF AN ACT, AN INSTRUMENT in the Creation. Compare that to GOD in 1 Cor 8:6 , notice for God the Father he uses the word EK - or ex ex a primary preposition denoting ORIGIN (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):- Notice GOD the Father is the ORIGIN/FROM ,THE SOURCE FROM WHOM ALL THINGS are created. BIG DIFFERENCE. So the FATHER IS the ORIGIN of all things. For JEsus, it didn;t use the word Origin but "THrough" which in the Original Greek word also means "a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act". So God the Father is like the WRITER, he used his Son as a channel of a act to write (like a pen). So the only writer is the Father, the Son was used as a channel and NOT THE ORIGIN of creation. This is confirmed by Jesus in John 5:19 - " Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.+" JESUS CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING , his FATHER always guide him. All things came into existence through him,e and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. - Jesus is first BORN/MADE (Heb 1:5, 1 JOhn 5:18) by GOD directly , only begotten by GOD, the Father , ALL things (which does not include of course Jesus and his Father and the holy spirit) came into existence THROUGH him (Jesus). the word through (DIA in Greek means - a primary preposition denoting the CHANNEL of an act; ) So Jesus was used as the CHANNEL in the creation. The source is the Father.
@@brendenwentworth7336 Jesus is called MADE, Hebrews 1:5 and Acts 2, Jesus admitted to this in JOhn 5:26 - The Father GAVE LIFE TO THE SON. Before that life was given to the Son, the Son does not have that life
So, when does the world end? This is such a perfect example of an unbalanced teaching. Yes, the temple was still standing in the first century, but it did not have any "standing" or status. Please do your exegesis next time. Partial Preterism is only half the truth (and we don't deal in half-truths). I'm sorry to say that his sounded more like Full Preterism, which is heresy. My question for Partial Preterists is this - where are the Scriptures that deal with the Second Coming? Until one understands that prophecy is often dualistic in nature, there will be a distortion of the truth. Futurism and Preterism are both distorted.
If ur european get all the $ u can n live gloriously don't let these pastors n elite fool u into not getting ur piece of the pie while they live deliciously they use guilt and a promise of a heaven to come that u folks can have no part of - this is your heaven rite here rite now established with blood n you folks have to pay for it in the end - i lie not (isaiah 14:21)(revelation 13:10 kjv)(job 27:14)(obadiah 1:10,18)
I felt a rush of emotion when Pastor Jeff said,"Hear now the word of the living and true God."
I know it’s so difficult and time consuming to do… but if apologia put out a commentary on the whole bible… I cannot imagine the impact that it would have. To have all of those cross references putting the OT and NT pieces together in the way they are supposed to be understood would be absolutely ground breaking
I am convinced you come to the same conclusions Jeff Durbin does in this sermon by simply reading the whole counsel of the Bible without the previous frameworks of premillennialism taught in our modern churches. I taught premill Revelation in a Bible study in depth for two and a half years. This past year I have finally tried to read Scripture shredding any preconceived concepts I had. The Spirit can make it so simple and clear when we are really just trying to read the Word, stripping ourselves of all our personal notions we might bring to it. It humbles me to think about how prideful I can be, even in how I interpret God's Word.
I started reading in context 9 months ago and I have been tracking and noting things that I'm now realizing are explained by a post mil eschatology. I agree. It seems like if you just read in context these things become clear
Dude! Did I just become Post-Mil?
Hopefully.
Lol😂😂😂
@gerry mackle you’re a very sad man.
@gerry mackle your attempt at “debate” has left you without a Christlike approach to the conversation, That is what makes you sad in my eyes. Also I don’t know how you determine who is in heaven or in hell when you have had no opportunity to have knowledge of such things. Even by your standard of what determines people good enough, Calvin could in theory came to “salvation” towards the end of his life by pleasing the “GREAT” Gerry mackle and entered into the pearly gates of Mackleville.
Please step off your high horse and join us little people to have a civil discussion.
@gerry mackle The Father would Mock those who claimed to be God like.
This was such a wonderful revelation for me! I just recently committed to reading the word from Genesis to Revelation and am currently in Ezekiel as I listened to this sermon. In light of everything I've learned in my readings over the last month or so, this interpretation of the text, and especially of the imagery, is absolutely consistent with how the Lord works.
This is amazing! Thank you for sharing 😁
LOL
R. M. Chilton’s book was my first book I read exposing me to the eschatology of hope and victory. It changed my life. Bless you brother.
Check out Gary DeMar’s podcast. Excellent!
I will do just that. Thank you!
I am reading Paradise Restored; A Biblical Theology of Dominion by David Chilton. This Biblical interpretation finally makes sense!
I just started it. I'm only like 10 pages in but it's been good!
Same! I just started it. About halfway through!
The new covenant clearly has the ppl its for written in it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the non Israelites??
He became a hyper preterist at the end of his life.
@@israelisaiah5149 All they that have faith like Abraham are spiritual children of Abraham.
I feel so much joy. Our Lord has this! I still don't know hardly enough, but I am starting to see through the fog of understanding the beginning of who our God truly is. Tears again at the end when my understanding continues to grow in who my Lord and Saviour is and what He has truly done and continues to do.
Amen ❤❤❤
God bless you ❤
I can't express enough how profound of a message this is.. not only had I seen these things since becoming reformed but to have such detail laid out in such a beautiful way really brought me to tears.. especially when the Priest said as Jeff quoted, "We have no king but Cesar"...
Tha k God for God's sovereignty and divine will, that WILL come to pass, and nothing can thwart it. To Jesus be the Glory, Amen! God bless all those that hear this.
Great job Jeff. I'm reading Kenneth Gentry's "He Shall Have Dominion". I pray for your ministry. That it will reach the church with this eschatology of hope. That people will take the great commission literally. Stop looking to CNN to understand the book of Revelation and chapter's like Matthew 24. Realize we have the Holy Spirit and are equipped to be workers in his Kingdom that is NOW. Our God is doing wonderous acts around the world despite the sleepy Christianity that is predominantly in the West. We have so many unreached people groups (including western churches). Let us be about the work of making disciples for Messiah gathering in all his people he has called to his glorious family. Thank you for your preaching. Your understanding of Van Til, Bahnsen, Rushdoony, North, Jordan, and Gentry. May your ministry raise up theonomic thinking men and women who are willing to serve God in civil service at the city, state, and federal level. Not afraid to proclaim the crown rights of Christ in all of life!!
I’m beginning to believe in the early date of the writing of Revelation. Not there just yet, but I can see where it could have been written pre-AD 70.
Boy I sure want to move to Arizona just to be a part of your church. Thank you for the truth.
The new covenant has the names of those its established with written in it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the names of the non Israelites??
@@israelisaiah5149 The New Covenant is for all the nations. I'd be here all day if I named every book, chapter, and verse. Old and New Testament. Try reading the whole book.
THIS right here!!! EXCELLENT!!!
I do enjoy that sermon. Cheers in the Lord!
Jeff you are very correct, this is Super teaching!!!
Really blessed by this! And such God timing aswell as i have been thinking about this topic the past week or 2 so. Glory to the Lord!
Also in 1 & 2 Chr, the bronze lavar was called the sea.
Rev 21:1 I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth have passed away and the sea is no more.
Jeff jokes about a two hour sermon, bring it man! I’ll listen to it!
Jeff lies alot - example the new covenant has the names of those its established with written in it - why is he telling ppl who's names are not written in it that they are apart of it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the names of the non Israelites??
Well that changes everything inside my brain. 👀
All things fulfilled!!!
@Obadiah 1:18 definitely fulfilled.
And for anyone to say part of Rev is finished and not all is to call the writer a false prophet Deut 18:15-22.
Revelation 1:1-1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Revelation 22:10-12 10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
The gospel is never ending Revelation 14:6
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
The church and the world is forever Ephesians 3:20-21
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
What a great sermon, Pastor Jeff has helped me understand these texts with new eyes.
@@Laredef54 So then your not a Christian
Woooo! Good to have you back Jeff!!
Ahhh please re upload and boost the sound guys!!! ❤
Wow! Just wow! 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hahaha the news story Jeff is talking about is one of my favorites, I literally have a screen shot of the news report on it! So funny! 😂
Can you show us?
Second time watching this through. Preterist postmillennialism cannot be touched dude, God bless
This makes no sense is he a preterist?
Of course he’s preterist
Partial preterist. Apologia believe in the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ ❤
@@lavieenrose5954 they believe in a *third coming of Christ as they believe He came to judge/save in 70AD
Jeff, thanks. I was able to listen to the rest of your sermon. Very good.
This just blew my mind
Amazing sermon!
Brother Bruce Gore just posted his sermon on the same subject ..used same title ......💪🏻
Excellent message ! Thank you
This was great!! Would be awesome if you posted the scriptures used or an outline in the description!
Can anyone close to Dr. White ask him when he will be continuing the sermons on baptism please.
I knew an old evangelist whose take on Hebrews was, "The book of Hebrews was written to the Hebrews to tell the Hebrews to stop being Hebrews."
@Obadiah 1:18 the idea is not too go back to the Old Covenant. Many people here in America don't act like the nationality their families come from, they act like Americans.
@Obadiah 1:18 blacks? Rev 2:9?
Read Galatians 3. Those in Christ, Jew, Greek, slave, free, male or female are heirs to the promises.
@Obadiah 1:18 you take verses and apply them to everyone but to the in text persons. You need to learn to correctly study the Bible my friend.
@Obadiah 1:18 what makes you think "we all" are descendants of E. S. U. A. ? Or come from E. D. O. M.?
@@Playlist849236 God describes ur characteristics from A to Z as well as the things u folks would do in the future examples👇
The creation of the image of the beast aka white jesus (romans 1:22-25)(revelation 13:14)(job 9:24)(1st maccabees 3:48)
Take lands by sword (genesis 27:38-41)(habakkuk 2:3-5)
Enslave ppl go to the moon live in caves - even ur symbol the eagle (Obadiah 1:1-4)
Calls u by name as rulers of mystery babylon aka america (psalm 137:7-9)
The list goes on but its made emphatically clear in sripture that u folks are E. S. A. U
Nice work! Agree. Revelation is also a divorce treatise. Compare Matt 24 and Rev 6!
Powerful word
Realized millenium is the biblical position that really let scriptures interpret scriptures.
This blows my mind. I’d LOVE to hear more on the book of revelation.
The "flee" exegesis, as well as the hermeneutics, is brilliant
Jeff is lying - example the new covenant says the names of those its established with so why is he telling ppl who's name are not written that their apart of it (Jeremiah 31:31-34)(Hebrews 8:8-13) where are the names of the non Israelites??
@@israelisaiah5149 Can you state your objection in a reasonably coherent manner. So that we may respond likewise
@@chuckcanuck3445 Apparently Israel Isaiah thinks the new covenant is only for Jews.
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He is probably a black Hebrew Israelite
Hebrews 8:8
Jesus is literally saying the old covenant will pass away but the new covenant will never pass away
When God gave his words or his covenant to Israel it was considered the establishment of heaven and earth in scripture.
Jesus in Matthew five and in Matthew 24 was speaking about the destruction of the covenant world of Israel
So yes heaven and earth has passed away and the new heaven and earth have come which would mean that the Old Testament law passed away and the new covenant law of Christ has come!
Great message Pastor Jeff!
No you are making assumptions, please understand you leaped to a conclusion that is directly explained by paul in several places. I mean this humbly.The law is still in effect but it doesn't condemn nor glorify us. It is the expression of God's goodness on earth. The holiness code of thr law has been fulfilled in Christ but the judicial and civil law should still be applied. That doesn't mean the punishments necessarily not to the letter of the law but to the spirit of the law. For example part of the law is to put a fence on your roof for safety. Well how can we do that today. Putting a fence around pools. Making sure our properties are safe. Jeff likes to quote this one which full disclosure is where ive gotten it from. And if you look at the way Jesus spoke to the pharisees then it'll make sense from that view point. Basically its like putting a fence on your roof and saying there ive done what God said but your pool is wide open for a kid to fall in.
@@repentorperish1386 Can you state the places where Paul explains your opinion?
Also If nothing of the Law is gone, how do you explain Matt 5:18 "18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."
@@Jus4kiks why do you think pastors get paid? Paul cited animal husbandry law for that reasoning. Like i said, the spirit of the law.
@@repentorperish1386 Ty for the reply, if you get a chance to site the scripture to backup your claim it would be much appreciated. I want to make sure my believes are correct or to challenge them. If not no worries, take care brother.
@@Jus4kiks if i get time to look it up i will. If you would like to do more research just read de greg bahnsens work on it
When we mix the old covenant (OT) w/the new covenant (NT) it's like being married to Jesus (the bride of Christ) & committing adultery, or having an affair w/Moses. It reminds me of a verse I read somewhere (I forget where) that said something along the lines of; Thou shall not commit adultery. Amen 😉👍
This view seems to make sense and has lots of Biblical support, but could someone explain how this would fit together with Romans 11:1-2?
Most Postmillenialists (myself included) see a future where all the Jews will come to Christ. Some even think that the conversion of the Jews will cause a massive boost to the preaching of the gospel and global revival.
John 6:37
All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
“God has not cast away His people,whom He foreknew.”
Times of the gentiles....fullness of the gentiles....compare them. Many believe e them to be the same and fulfilled in the first century fulfillment most likely
It doesn’t
Romans 11 refers to the elect of God among the Israelites through the preaching of the gospel. The elect was to be gathered.
It only took an hour to MENTION the new heaven and new earth.
This was more a talk about revelation in context.
Who resides in the new heaven ?
Who resides in the new earth ?
If god is going to literally live with us on the new earth, what is the new heaven for?
Audio is bad, maybe just on my end. Couldn't hear him at all
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I became Postmil recently, and part of that was being heavily influenced by these kinds of sermons from Pastor Jeff. But I’m a little confused: they did an Apologia Radio episode debunking Full or Hyper-Preterism, and now Jeff is saying that Revelation 22 isn’t the eternal state? Hopefully someone from Apologia sees this comment and can clarify this for me. I totally agree that in eternity the nations won’t need healing, but I don’t quite understand how that isn’t Full Preterism to believe that Revelation 22 is already fulfilled and is not talking about the eternal state
@Britton Wood, I’m not from Apologia church but maybe we can think through this... full preterism would mean Christ is not going to return, because his returning in judgment on the nation Israel is all there ever will be.
@Britton Wood, I don’t remember what exactly he said about Rev 22 but I think he was saying the new Jerusalem is the church which exists now, the churches victory which I believe is pictured in that chapter has yet to be completed. That’s what I think anyways.
It is the logical step after continued studying of Post mill. Because you will eventually realize that the new heavens and new earth are not literal. It is the Old Cov vs the New Cov, the law the stocheia from Gal 4 is the 'elements' that burned in fervent heat. After that it is tough to say salvation didn't come and judgment didn't come but everything else happened...
There is absolutely NO WAY he is right about some of these things. Full preterism is absolutely false.
And to think he is attacking Gary DeMar, for the same thing it saddens me that Jeff would do such a thing
Anybody know where to read the record of the Christians leaving Jerusalem for Pella? I’d like to read it.
I think it's in Josephus, but can't remember 100%
Eusebius - Ecclesiastical History 3.5.3.
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I think Pastor Jeff was wearing a bullet proof vest when he was making that remark about his wife 😂😂. Humor aside, great sermon! I was blessed!
I come to you all as a Humble servant with all sincerity, peace to all that read this.. May it find you well...Please read all!! If you have any questions I will be happy to answer.
Brother I would like to share one thing... You are not where you think you are in Prophecy.... Jesus says come.. all you who HUNGER AND THIRST.. and freely received your reward... It is the New Covenant... He wants to teach you Himself and all you have to do is Understand things remained Hidden so that you could be preserved... He has set a fire Kindled against the DARKNESS.. and if these days were not Shortened... none would be saved... Step into the Light of our Messiah SPOKEN since the foundations of Creation that He came to reveal to His SERVANTS.. HIDDEN THINGS of the PROPHETS and His DISCIPLES...they all mention it!! AS IN ISAIAH 48:6 that it cannot be denied... all was foretold from the beginning...and nothing was done without Him...The Messiah!! Trust in Christ and He will share with you the Key of David which is UNDERSTANDING!!!! So that this COVENANT will be fulfilled JEREMIAH 31:38 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
Man will no longer teach the Word of God.. He will do it Himself!!
DO NOT TRUST IN ME.. I am just a lowly Servant He set long ago to share this... He says FAST... Beware of the LEAVEN of the Pharisees and Scribes which sold His servants into slavery... This Captivity was meant by man for evil.. But God meant it for Good.. So we would be preserved and the wicked could be starved out... Eat the UNLEAVENED BREAD OF LIFE of Jesus Christ...JOHN 1:1-5 Tied to Genesis 1:1-5 Explains much... But Christ is the Word, our Bread of Life... He wants to dwell in all ways with you all NOW!! Repent, FAST, OPEN THE WORD BE BAPTIZED IN THE LIVING WATER OF CHRIST. Let Him dine with you and He will Heal your Blind Eyes... open your deaf EARS...
Isaiah 58:6-10
6 “Is this not the fast that I have chosen:
To loose the bonds of wickedness,
To undo the heavy burdens,
To let the oppressed go free,
And that you break every yoke?
7 Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
And that you bring to your house the poor who are cast out;
When you see the naked, that you cover him,
And not hide yourself from your own flesh?
8 Then your light shall break forth like the morning,
Your healing shall spring forth speedily,
And your righteousness shall go before you;
The glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard.
9 Then you shall call, and the Lord will answer;
You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’
“If you take away the yoke from your midst,
The pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness,
10 If you extend your soul to the hungry
And satisfy the afflicted soul,
Then your light shall dawn in the darkness,
And your darkness shall be as the noonday.
With the Love of Truth I share this with you.. God is waking up His chosen.. The remnant that sleeps in the dust... As He did with Moses, He says seek out your BROTHER because He has the Gift of SPEECH!! Free His people... Like I said.. Do not TRUST ME...TRUST IN YOU LORD...HE SENT ME!! HE WILL REVEAL ALL... WELL UNLESS I'M WRONG AND I AM A COMPLETE NUT JOB WITH CHRIST IN MY HEAD... Which in any case seems crazy to me as well!! In love of Christ our Messiah, the Right Hand of God!!Be Blessed BROTHER!! STAY FAITHFUL
The Catholic Church has been teaching this for 2000 years.
Is good to hear modern Protestant churches finally starting to teach the Jewish roots of the teachings in the Bible. Good job!
IS66:1 Heaven is my Throne
Earth is My Footstool?
His Kingdom.
Mr. Durbin, I agree with a great deal of what you are saying and have written on it myself- as you know. However, IMHO, your attempt to posit another New Creation at some imaginary end of the current age, is untenable. I would love for us to engage in a formal debate on our differences. Are you willing?
I would love to see that debate.
Hey Don! thanks for all the time and work you put into your material. It would be great if that debate happens, because im currently being challenged by covenant escathology and i struggle to find a solid biblical refutation. Im still on my journey to investigate the FP view. Your books have given me a lot to think about!
Love, Jeff. But yeah, biblically there is no warrant for that. There is no end to the KINGDOM of Christ. There is no 2nd Jerm 31!
70AD started the millennium. Not ended it.
@@williambrewer Sorry, William, that does not work:
The judgment of all men is at the end of the millennium-- Revelation 20:10f.
The judgment of all men is at the coming of the Lord.
But the coming of the Lord in judgment of all men was at hand, coming soon, shortly and quickly when John wrote- Revelation 22:12.
Therefore, the end of the millennium was coming soon, shortly and quickly when John wrote Revelation.
Mr. Durbin, since Dr. White is not willing to debate Don Preston on eschatology, I would love to see a debate between yourself and Mr. Preston. Although you make a lot of really good points in this sermon, I'm afraid you're not taking what you're saying to it's logical and biblical conclusion.
Preston is a heretic, and full preterism is a waste of time.
@@merecatholicity well, that's a typical response. I'd actually like to hear what Mr. Durbin's interpretation of "Heaven and Earth" is in 2 Peter 3. Does he believe "Heaven and Earth" was destroyed in 70 AD? Is the New Heaven and New Earth in Isaiah 65 created immediately after the destruction of Old Covanent Israel, i.e. "Heaven and Earth"? This lesson leaves so many questions to be answered in my mind.
@@Orangeokie7 I agree, this lesson does leave a lot of questions unanswered. I would imagine that he does take 2 Peter 3 as referencing the collapse of the temple, with the new creation constituting the new covenant.
My theory is that most partial preterists mistake the "parousia" and that is why they seem inconsistent trying to make the parousia both 70 AD and the second coming. This inconsistency is what leads to full preterism. However, I think this can be resolved when one comes to a clearer understanding of "parousia."
@@merecatholicity do you have any lessons on what your interpretation of the parousia is? I'd like to read or watch it
@@Orangeokie7 Shoot me an email at jonah@jonahsaller.com, identify yourself, and I'll send you what I've got!
one of the biggest Y2K promoters was Gary North and his cohorts, a postmill
Jeff, what is your belief on the dating of the Revelation?
Obviously pre 70 AD for him to be consistent.Which, according to many, there is ample evidence.
@@rickymoosdorf2448 Ricky, thanks for clearing that up for me. I wonder why Tertullian, Ireneaus and many of the church leaders wrote that John was sent to Patmos during the reign of Domitian (ad 81-96)and it wasn’t until Nervas reign (96-98) that John was released back home to Ephesus according to Tertullian. Jerusalem was destroyed in ad 70.
@Obadiah 1:18good one. Not much is known about Obadiah. Jeremiah in ch 49 says a similar thing. Some believe it is regard to the Maccabees
@@TribeofZebulon it couldn't be referring to the maccabees john hycranus converted them - obadiah say they would be exterminated obviously a future prophecy and hasnt happened yet even to this day E. S. A. U - the God given ethnicity of all europeans who are called by name not inly as rulers of mystery babylon aka the EU but also as recieving a very unfriendly visit from the messiah upon his 2nd coming (isaiah 63:1-6)(psalm 137:7-9)(revelation 18:5-10)
@@TribeofZebulon When Jerusalem Fell is great on dating the book of Revelation, by Ken Gentry. Its a long dry read..
But given the words and history, it is very safe to say that it was pre.
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Does anybody know what reference James White Gave Jeff during the message at about the 52:00 - 52:20 minute mark? Jeff asks James if it was Pink’s commentary on Hebrews that expands upon the idea that this is referring to the destruction of the old covenant order. I couldn’t make out what James tells him. It was kind of garbled and muffled to hear what James response was.
So close to full preterism 😮
Apologia believe in the second coming of Jesus Christ ❤
@@lavieenrose5954 *third coming
This was awesome and i am totally there, however, I don't quite know how the understanding of the new heavens and new earth being the new covenant meshes with 2 Peter 3:10-13. Seems like after Jesus comes back, the current heavens and earth are destroyed and a new one will be made. Help?
My understanding is that Jesus came back in judgement in 70 ad when Jerusalem was destroyed. Thus ending the old covenant.
It doesn’t.
This is hogwash. He has to allegorize half the Bible to justify his post hoc interpretation.
God bless y'all. I am having a problem hearing this great teacing, the volume is so low. I want to share it but I'm concerned my friends will not be able to hear it. Can you help me? Thank you
I would recommend headphones 🎧 🙂
Same! Cant hear without headphones
What article about Heaven and earth?
Haha, amazing sermon until the end. He just went through a whole host of passages logically and biblically proving their fulfillment and then at the end says we're still waiting on it?? How if you just went through all of the scriptures that talk about a new heaven and earth and affirmed it was here now?
One of the worst corruptions in the American Evangelicalism is the interpretation that makes the scriptures about us and not Christ.
Almost thou persuadest me to be a post millennial. 😂
Let it be mine dearest friend.
#ApologiaStudios, Are you going down the blasphemous "Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism" (Max Kingism) road?
Jeff has frequently spoken against full preterism.
If you’re a Christian then you are a partial preterist
@@Yela927 My point is that Jeff is now using the cult rhetoric that the blasphemers in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult use. They too have "a New Covenant Heaven and Earth." They claim that this "New Covenant Heaven and Earth" replaced the "Old Covenant Heaven and Earth" in AD 70. I would argue that "Heaven and Earth" a proper noun that describes "an old orderly arrangement" is NOT in reference to "the Old Covenant." I fear that Jeff is flirting with disaster, and that he will taste of it too, because of his Partial Preterism views that interlock with the Full Preterism of Max King, William Bell, and Don K. Preston in the Covenant Eschatology Full Preterism Cult.
@@thebereanpreterist you’re a partial preterist if you believe Jesus is lord.
Do you agree?
@@Yela927 I'm born again by the love and power of God for 30 years. This is not about me. This is about taking a "covenant view" of Heaven and Earth. I can see Jeff slipping into more and more error.
This has not been fulfilled as of yet so preterist are dead in the water (obadiah 1:10,18)(isaiah 63:1-6)
Just rebecome Postmil for twice again xD
Something that stands out to me about this sermon is that it seems that Jeff’s understanding of “Jews” and “Gentiles” is misunderstood.
There is a Israelite understanding of the word... but to call it “jewish” is giving too much weight to modern day blasphemers that claim to be of the tribe of Jude.
I'm with you but what do we do with Is.66:23 and the mention of all flesh worshipping YHWH on New Moons and Sabbaths? I thought New Covenant did not include these.. Also in verse 17 - speaks of judgment on those consuming swine and idol worship.. but New Covenant theologians primarily confirm that Lev. dietary laws do not apply to New Cov. members.
Isa 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
I believe this is speaking about the Jews in the first century who had rejected God’s covenant. These were the ones who were hardened for judgement......
Isa 65:8 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.
9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
10 And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me.
11 But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number.
12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not
Matt 3:7 ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Rom 11:7 ¶ What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 ¶ And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
Israel was separated into two groups. Those who feared God and kept His covenant and those who rejected Him. Those who rejected Him were kept out of the new covenant and hardened so they would receive judgement. Those who feared God were given over to Jesus so that they would find rest from the works of the law for righteousness.
Matt 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Matt 23:1 ¶ Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
Jesus said the law was a heavy burden, grievous to be born. He would give them rest. The new covenant began after His death and resurrection.
As for your other question....
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
That’s every day. It’s no longer a special day of just the sabbath or just a new moon. It’s from one sabbath, all the way to the next......
Acts 2:46 ¶ And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
That’s what they did. Every day is for the Lord in the new covenant. Every day is Holy.
God bless.
@@evanu6579 awesome man thanks
Jeff, who are His covenant people? Is it just the Jews of the day? Aren’t there 11 other tribes? We’re they not the sons of Jacob? The NT is the Gospel message to those tribes (Gentiles), when the two sticks become one.
Jesus was speaking about the destruction of Jeruzalem and as Josephus noted not a Christian was killed.
The new covenant was made with Israel.....the same people the old covenant was made with
Both houses....all 12 tribes
Your emblem gives you away. Unless you want that.
It is always frightening when the full preterists are recommending your sermon.
Why?
don't watch this if you don't want to belive postmil
The audio is chewed up
Jerusalem means the city of peace. Earthly Jerusalem was only pointing to the true Jerusalem (Heaven).
Is19 against egypt.
Is13 was against BABYLON.
Jerusalem is actually called Egypt, spiritually.
”and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified.”
Revelation 11:8
I can barely hear you...😕
Why are you at apologia attacking Gary DeMar? Jeff’s sermon says what Gary has been saying. Jeff says there will be a future coming of Christ. Will he please do a sermon on that so he can show us all where he gets that teaching from the scripture. Until then he should back off and apologize to Gary. This is hypocritical, let’s discuss the issues as Gary is asking for
I was tracking along in agreement until about the final 1 minute mark, where you went off the rails with a soon "ultimate final victory". Disagree. Believers are already resurrected, even in our perishable bodies. Biblical death is spiritual. Adam died spiritually in the garden. The death was spiritual and so also is the new life. That "ultimate final victory" is already now! No need to hope for something that you already have. I give you a 99% sir! "Whoever believes in me shall never die".
I have a question. Is the rapture not biblical? I have been taught that Paul teaches this. I just discovered tbis channel and pastor Jeff is amazing I love your videos but I was surprised to sse that in the chat for this sermon. I wanted to ask when things calmed down. Can someone explain this to me please?
Watch the video where Jeff was on a podcast with Allie Becky Stuckey.
@@andrewjhowell ok is it the two part series?
@@elimartin4107 that’s it!
@@andrewjhowell awesome I will watch now, thank you so much brother!
@@elimartin4107 great! Feel free to reach out if you had any questions or I could help in any way!
One minor problem you overlooked; the book of Revelation was written AFTER 70AD.
Says who? Moses Stuart writing in 1836 said that the consensus was it was written before 70 CE. What new evidence is there? Post here please!
Let's also not venture beyond the text and argue that there is a future from us 2nd coming. Scripture puts the end of the age, coming of the NH NE, salvation, resurrection and judgment all at the same time (burden of proof is one those who descent from this). If all those other things occurred, then the 2nd coming occurred as well even if some don't like the nature of the 2nd coming. Jesus said he would come on the clouds. Just as the LORD came on a cloud into Edom...not literal. But as pulling the Babylonian army against Edom...So too Jesus came on a cloud pulling the Romans into Jerusalem.
I am open to a future return, but need evidence from the text that shows different from the coming on clouds at the same time as the end of the Old Covenant, temple etc...
The last enemy was physical or spiritual death? Obviously, spiritual death was defeated by the work of Christ. Paul, if talking about physical death being defeated, Christ did that as well...for the scripture places the resurrection at the time of the judgment of the covenant breakers! AD 70...
And no one believed the messiah is God
Was paul not speaking to those who thought this all took place in 70 ad when he wrote second Thessalonians.
1: Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, 2: not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3: Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, 4: who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God
I’m super confused is he claiming the second coming has already happened and we are already living in the new Heaven and new earth?
Is he a full preterist? What the heck is this?
The queston is what do the scriptures teach about that?
Oh ye of little faith, to think that God wont shake the heavens like a fig tree shedding its fruit. You say it was from of old Jeff, but why would God do it once and not twice or even thrice. Beware of leading in assumption Jeff, for if you yourself are not lead by the spirit of the Word, you yourself will lead others astray.
GOD IS NOT A LITERAL TORTURER. GOD is LOVE. He only gives eternal life to those who exercise faith in him and his Son (John 3:16, John 14:1) and NOT TO WICKED people. The Wicked will VANISH AND WILL BE NO MORE. Psalms 37:20
Phil 2:12 - New King James Version
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
How many is Jehovah? Trinitarians say there are THREE Jehovah. What does the Bible say? There is ONE JEHOVAH and NOT THREE JEHOVAH. Deut 6:4. - “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah
WHO IS THE STAR IN NUMBERS 24:17? That is Jesus. It is the same Hebrew word used in Job 38:7 for the morning stars. So as Jesus is called THE BRIGHT morning star (REV 22:16) so also are the other morning stars(angels). So Jesus is the CHIEF Angel with the archangel's voice (1 Thes 4:16). Jesus is called Prince of Peace in Isa 9:6 and the original Hebrew word for Prince means PATRON ANGEL which is the same Hebrew Word used for Michael the archangel in Daniel.
Jesus is the High Priest and the High Priest is NOT GOD himself.
GOD DOES NOT WORSHIP HIMSELF : John 4:22 -You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.
Jesus Included himself IN WORSHIPPING THE FATHER. ONLY A CREATION WILL WORSHIP GOD.
If the holy Spirit is a PERSON then now you have MANY PERSONS IN ONE GOD. REV 5:6 - seven eyes, and the eyes mean the seven spirits of God.SO NOW YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL SEVEN PERSONS IN GOD.
Who is the cause of Salvation? Both GOD and the lamb are saviors, Rev 7:9-10, even Jesus needed to be saved by the Father from death as the Father is the SOURCE OF LIFE AND SALVATION , Hebrews 5:7 & John 5:26 - THE FATHER GAVE THE SON LIFE.
Does the Bible called Jesus MADE AND BORN? Yes! JESUS is the Messiah and a CREATION BY GOD! He is called “BORN OF/FROM GOD”. (1 JOHN 5:18) Hebrews 1:5 showed that Jesus was MADE/BORN (orig Greek-gennaw). Also it says "he will become my son" Notice, FUTURE TENSE, WILL, so before that the SON DID NOT EXIST. If you are BORN AND MADE then you are a creation. , Hebrews 1:5 mentions I WILL BECOME HIS FATHER, so Jesus relationship with the Father has a BEGINNING, When ? it was TODAY. TODAY implies a beginning. Also Acts 2 mentioned GOD MADE JESUS as Lord and Christ. HEBREWS 1 :5 - the original greek word used there for begotten/born also means MAKE. so Jesus, the SON was MADE. Word: gennaw Pronounce: ghen-nah'-o Strongs Number: G1080 Orig: from a variation of 1085; to procreate (properly, of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively, to regenerate:--bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring. G1085.
When did Jesus become SON? Even before Jesus became human he is called SON , Prov 30:4
Was Jesus GIVEN LIFE?
He is called the firstborn and beginning of the CREATION BY GOD (COL 1, Revelation ) Also john 5:26 mentions that the FATHER GAVE JESUS, THE SON, with LIFE. If Jesus was given LIFE OR EVEN ETERNAL LIFE, then Jesus does not have life or eternal life before those were given to him. Notice, the Father was NOT given life.
JESUS was MADE LORD (ACTS 2:36).JOHN 6:57 - Jesus Said “ I LIVE BEC OF THE FATHER” SO JESUS’ LIFE was dependent on the Father and his SOURCE OF LIFE/Eternal Life IS THE FATHER as John 5:26 states as well. 1john 5:1 - Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God,+ and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one . who is this that HAS BEEN BORN from that one? That is Jesus! 1 John 5:18 - Jesus is called BORN FROM GOD JESUS IS BORN FROM GOD, 1 JOHN 5:18 - We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, but the one born from God* watches him, and the wicked one cannot take hold of him . WHO is the ONE BORN FROM GOD that watches us and protects us and who does not sin? JESUS CHRIST!
HAS ANYONE SEEN GOD?
NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD and if they see GOD's face THEY WILL DIE. Jesus was seen by many and they didn't DIE so Jesus Is Not The Almighty God. Jesus is called SON even before coming to earth as human. Exo 33:20 states "“You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”" NO MAN CAN SEE ME, notice ME , you think ME IS NOT LITERAL? IT IS LITERAL "ME" WHO IS GOD.
GOD IS FROM FOREVER:
John 1:1 mentions the WORD WAS IN THE BEGINNING, so Jesus was LIMITED "IN THE BEGINNING" Unlike GOD who is FROM FOREVER (Psalms 90:2).
Is "a god" a valid translation in John 1:1? Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1.
The Greek used in the BIble does not have an indefinite article "a" so that's why you don't see the "a" in John 1:1, The Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1. again, john 1:1 about theos - Strong's Concordance theos: God, a god , so "a god" is a valid translation. "The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon" defines theos as "a god" as well. so it is a valid translation. Also Thayer's Greek Lexicon also defines theos as "a god" so it is a valid translation
Is Jesus the same as Jehovah? Jesus is the SON. Jehovah is Our FATHER (Isa 63:16). Even the trinity doctrine states the SON IS NOT THE FATHER, so Jesus is NOT JEHOVAH
How many person is GOD? God said " I am God Almighty", The use of I am, means GOD is ONE PERSON. Do you use I am, me, myself, me alone for ONE LITERAL PERSON or THREE PERSONS? You only use those phrases for ONE literal person and NEVER FOR THREE PERSONS.
Is Jesus described as a Morning Star like the Angels? Yes. Rev 22:16 - 16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David+ and the bright morning star.’”+ JESUS IS THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR, Angels are also called morning stars in Job 38:7, so Jesus is the BRIGHT OR CHIEF OF THE ANGELS (archangel) as 1 Thessalonians 4:16 mentions.
What does Firsborn means?
So depending on the context the firstborn can be the chief, principal, or first in time or place or rank. Still though, when you use the firstborn with an OF, “firstborn OF”, because of the OF , that means the firstborn BELONGS TO THE GROUP, just like when you say firstborn of the sheep. The firstborn is a sheep. So Jesus belongs to the group of creation, firstborn of all creation.
Does John 8:58 correlate with Exodus 3? In Exodus 3, GOD is called I WILL BECOME (not I am) and does not correlate with John 8:58
Word: DID Pronounce: haw-yaw Use: TWOT-491 Verb 1) to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
Jehovah is called GOD of gods, who are these gods? if you say that those are all false gods, then you are saying that GOD is like Satan as he is God of all false gods. Those gods exist, just like King of kings, those kings exist.
Is Jehovah, GOD's name? Psalms 83:18.
Strong's No.: H3068 Hebrew: יְהֹוָה Transliteration: Yᵉhôvâh Phonetic: yeh-ho-vaw'" and even the BIBLE mentions the God's followers containing his name. Jehoshaphat, jehu, etc. With all Jehovah, the God of the Bible. Yes. Jehovah is God in the Bible, the Our Father (JEHOVAH) ISA 63 AND WHO IS JAH , JEHOVAH that is WORTHY OF PRAISE AND GLORY! ISA 26:4 - 4 Trust in Jehovah forever,h For Jah* Jehovah is the eternal Rock.
JEHOSHAPHAT(MATTHEW 1 :8) - Easton's Bible Dictionary Jehovah-judged. Easton's Bible Dictionary Jehovah-judged. Smith's Bible Dictionary Jehoshaphat - (whom Jehovah judges.) Yup, JEHOVAH is the name of GOD IN THE BIBLE as his followers have the name of Jehovah in their name.
What was Jesus role in creation? He is the Master Worker (Prov 8) and a channel used by GOD in the creation.
Notice the TWO WORDS translated as By/Through in Col 1:16 - 1. En - a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively),.. Notice it says INSTRUMENTALITY 2. Dia - a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act Notice it says CHANNEL OF AN ACT So Colossians 1:16 simply mentions that Jesus is USED BY GOD AS A CHANNEL OF AN ACT, AN INSTRUMENT in the Creation. Compare that to GOD in 1 Cor 8:6 , notice for God the Father he uses the word EK - or ex ex a primary preposition denoting ORIGIN (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):- Notice GOD the Father is the ORIGIN/FROM ,THE SOURCE FROM WHOM ALL THINGS are created. BIG DIFFERENCE. So the FATHER IS the ORIGIN of all things. For JEsus, it didn;t use the word Origin but "THrough" which in the Original Greek word also means "a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act". So God the Father is like the WRITER, he used his Son as a channel of a act to write (like a pen). So the only writer is the Father, the Son was used as a channel and NOT THE ORIGIN of creation. This is confirmed by Jesus in John 5:19 - " Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.+" JESUS CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING , his FATHER always guide him.
All things came into existence through him,e and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. - Jesus is first BORN/MADE (Heb 1:5, 1 JOhn 5:18) by GOD directly , only begotten by GOD, the Father , ALL things (which does not include of course Jesus and his Father and the holy spirit) came into existence THROUGH him (Jesus). the word through (DIA in Greek means - a primary preposition denoting the CHANNEL of an act; ) So Jesus was used as the CHANNEL in the creation. The source is the Father.
Jesus is God incarnate. John 1, Hebrews 1, Colossians 1 Philippians 2, John 10, John 17, Revelation 1.
Repent and believe
@@brendenwentworth7336 Jesus is called MADE, Hebrews 1:5 and Acts 2, Jesus admitted to this in JOhn 5:26 - The Father GAVE LIFE TO THE SON. Before that life was given to the Son, the Son does not have that life
@@mr.d.c.1914.1 So I guess when he forgave sin and said he was the " I Am".... He wasn't saying he was God.
JW opinion detected, JW opinion rejected
So, when does the world end? This is such a perfect example of an unbalanced teaching. Yes, the temple was still standing in the first century, but it did not have any "standing" or status. Please do your exegesis next time. Partial Preterism is only half the truth (and we don't deal in half-truths). I'm sorry to say that his sounded more like Full Preterism, which is heresy. My question for Partial Preterists is this - where are the Scriptures that deal with the Second Coming? Until one understands that prophecy is often dualistic in nature, there will be a distortion of the truth. Futurism and Preterism are both distorted.
No man knows much.
If ur european get all the $ u can n live gloriously don't let these pastors n elite fool u into not getting ur piece of the pie while they live deliciously they use guilt and a promise of a heaven to come that u folks can have no part of - this is your heaven rite here rite now established with blood n you folks have to pay for it in the end - i lie not (isaiah 14:21)(revelation 13:10 kjv)(job 27:14)(obadiah 1:10,18)
Calvinist, pot-mill, greasy hair. Durbin doesn't get much right.
Lol the last thing you do is exegete. The fact that you read the Bible through the lens of the TULIP is the first clue you’re not exegeting anything.
Uh, oh, Preterism.
Hebraic biblical exegesis
@Obadiah 1:18 Is that what Durban is?
@@eastlandcc4888 Ok, fair enough, thanks!
@@jacobkilburnmma Is that a good thing?
@@duncescotus2342 yes
This is absolutely asinine. Preachers need to do their research before speaking publicly.
Finally, someone who has brain cells!!
This is one hour I’ll never get back… 🙄
Prove it!