I remember when the Orange Stealth first came out in 07, nobody really used them... but then they started getting popular a full year later when the next year's version had already come out (the all blue stealth). It took that long for people to realize that it literally took a full season of an entire team using this bat (THOUSANDS of hacks) to get it to enter "GOD MODE". But by that point, they were already somewhat rare to find. The one we use in our videos is 25 years old and it still feels like it needs thousands more break-in swings.
Surely there would be a way to simulate those swings... just with a pitching machine setup automated in some way, if you don't want to spend the hours in the cages yourself ;p
They're probably all broken now. Anything made of carbon degrades from repeated stress like the titan sub. They're ridiculous. It's like a spring board but more powerful. I got to play with one in highschool.
In my baseball program, one of our kids was killed by getting hit in the head. That was one of the pictures with the players and coaches carrying a casket. My coach was one of the guys carrying it and he held the kids hand all the way to the hospital. Forever 11
That’s horrible. I’m sorry for your loss. But even a standard ash -3 wood bat can produce exit velocity of 110 mph. Slowpitch bats can reach over 125mph velocity. It’s a dangerous game, you gotta pay attention and have quick instincts especially as an infielder.
Before this video, I never understood why the NCAA allows metal bats if the MLB does not. After this video, I DEFINITELY don't understand why the NCAA allows metal mats if the MLB does not...
Doesn’t make any sense. You would think that they would want players to be used to wooden bats… instead of having to readjust due to many years of using juiced aluminum bats.
Cause the NCAA doesn't give a shit about sports other than football and men's basketball. Baseball doesn't make enough money for them to put nearly as much effort into it as they do for football and basketball.
My impression was that it was due to wooden bats being prone to breaking and that being considered riskier, certainly for catchers who get a faceful of splinters. But I could be mistaken.
@@Tinil0 the weight distribution is different. So even if they get similar results you'd think they'd want players to get used to swinging wooden bats anyways just to get the feel for it
I'll never forget the switch to BBCOR in the middle of high school. All of us were absolutely dumbfounded by the lack of pop in them coming from swinging BESR the whole time until that point. But BBCOR advanced fast af, and a few years later the difference was hardly noticeable. Either that, or we just eventually forgot what the prime BESR models felt like and just got used to the BBCOR's
@tokeypokey yeah crying over kids getting killed and games playing slower than ever what a fucking accomplishment I wouldn't have played either with such bullshit changes, let athletes go at it with the best possible equipment bar none no excuses, bring back the fucking exciting bats 😂
Now i understand what they mean when guys offer bat rolling services. they are using compression rollers to juice the composite bats by simulating seasons of use in a few hours/days
DUDE, that shot at 0:53 with the Stealth/Voodoo/Catalyst/EXO brings back so many amazing memories.... what a time to be alive and playing ball. I'm 30 next year, and man, do I miss those days :(
AND THE TRITON AT 11:25 !!!!! My God!!! Growing up playing in the early 2000's and till about 2018, my dad had one of the black/grey and red TPX from the 90's with the HUGE barrels, as well as an Easton Reflex and an Easton Black Magic, and I will NEVER forget the first time I went out with him to take BP and used the TPX and Reflex when I had only ever swung a BESR up till then. The difference was insane. Still have them too haha. Just bring them out for BP once in a blue moon at the park to have fun.
That's so crazy. I played HS baseball during the easton stealth comp era. It's so interesting that everyone knew those things were duds off the rack and you had to "break them in" like a glove, but I never knew why until today.
I wish you'd used an actual composite bat sound instead of the aluminum "ding" each time the ball was hit with a composite bat. Anyone who's played with a composite bat instantly knows the unique thwack sound they make. Composite bats sound like an alien weapon being used.
Someone should have also told him that an Xbox One controller is only like 20 more dollars than what he paid for his 2000s Logitech he pulled out of the junk drawer too
I remember in about 1989 I asked my Dad why pros didn't use aluminum bats and he responded that they'd kill someone. It felt hyperbolic at the time but God bless him he was right as usual. I have to be clear I was a basketball player. Without a father at home I never really learned how to play baseball so I never did . Therefore my knowledge on this subject is second hand for those who vehemently disagree.
When I was 12 years old in 1995 a white Louisville TPX bat came out in that bat seemed to be pretty special, whoever used it had great results in the first time I swung and I hit a home run and that happened to me my first home run. I was getting close to heading home runs already but the first game I use that bat my first at bat I hit a home run with it and hit all five of my home runs my 12-year-old here with it. I'll never forget the white Louisville TPX, a lot of people were using it and the one I was using was actually a 28 25 lol
i grew up in middle tennessee playing little league in the height of the composite bat era and one of the guys i played travel ball with had an uncle that worked at rawlings in their engineering department. we would get test sample bats before they were released to market, probably illegally, and some of those test bats we would get to use were insane. probably a miracle no one was injured looking back at it. shout out the 09 miken freak tho, that thing was an absolute monster.
Gold and Black Easton Reflex was insane as well. I coached Middle School like 10 years back and let my kids use it (there wasn’t any restrictions) and we had 4 kids hit HRs that year, and legit 330 down the line fields.
I had the blue easton stealth bat in high school, and I batted over .400 and hit a lifetime high 14 home runs, the bat got banned and I never hit more than 10 again. I'll never forget the feeling of hitting absolute monsters off the tee with ol' blue.
I was playing Travel Ball during this time, and during a USSSA showcase in AZ, 90% of hitters in the 1-5 slots were all using the Stealth or Exo. But that orange stealth was the only one everyone called a literal cheater bat. That thing was spooky af, thank god I was an outfielder. Buddy living life as a third baseman probably has PTSD from holding a hot corner against Highschool and college hitters swinging those bats. 1990-2012 bats went crazy. It has been cool to see BBCOR find ways to emulate that performance at a relatively safer level. My Highschool district banned those bats around 2010 due to a pitcher getting put in a coma from a comebacker.
I actually have an EXO Grid that I got from a garage sale and it was amazing when I used it in practice (never played competitively). Nowadays it's in rough shape in my garage with the end of the barrel missing (I taped the bottom of a Powerade bottle on it) and the grip replaced with bandage wrapping
Basically, Easton applied Swingweight; Where the distribution of mass on the bat influenced how heavy the bat was to swing. So if a bat was 30 inches and weighed 25 ounces, depending on where most of the mass was centered, it determined the swingweight. More mass towards the tip of the bat = Higher swingweight = More difficult to swing = More powerful More mass towards the handle = Less influence on swingweight = Easier to swing = Higher swing speeds. I play tennis, so I already figured out what Easton did when he said that the bats felt "heavier" when swung despite weighing "lighter." The governing body was measuring the static weight, which is how much the bat weighed stationary. So anyway you organize it, it will still weigh whatever it was listed as. When swung is where the Pandora's Box of Bats and Rackets was opened.
What a fantastic video, they're always done so well. I remember those Black Magic and TPX bats like it was yesterday. We went from hitting the completely garbage 20 year old metal bags in little leagues, and someone bought a new one for the first player pitch year. It was the most amazing difference in the world. Even bad swings seemed to crush it.
I don't play baseball (anymore really. Just some pickup stuff with my nephews) or even watch baseball that much but this channel is absolutely the best thing if you enjoy baseball in the slightest. Now I gotta brag to my older nephew about the bats we had back then and shame his BB core he was so confident about. Hahaha! I love them so much but he can be a punk!
I remember using it, it got better as you used it more. Some people were “rolling” this bat to give it even more pop. I’d say it is the best bat I used as a kid
Thank you BDE for the new video. Also on how different are the metal bats from the wooden ones? Cracking home runs with a metal bat sounds powerful but you're also vulnerable. Happy Holidays everyone
When I was in HS, we always had the latest bats Easton provided. The Stealth Comp actually caught on in 2006 and 2007. That silver and red one they released the first time around was just as good. The problem was they NEVER broke and they only got hotter the more swings you put on them. We did the total opposite of what people do with composite bats now. We'd have the entire team taking BP with two bats leading up to the season starting. We'd continue doing the same thing through out the season. I graduated 07, but we were given an orange Stealth Comp. I think the orange one actually released late in our season of 2007. We barely used it because the older Stealth Comp's we had were so much more broken in lol. Surprised I never got hurt playing both 3rd and 1st.
That bat ruled my high school baseball team for 7 years, after it got banned someone drilled holes into and dressed it up like our mascot, for all I know it still goes to every game.
I think the most juiced bat I ever saw/used was the Tidal Wave which was manufactured by Spalding in the late 80s. I am pretty sure it was actually designed as a softball bat, but hitting baseballs with it was unreal. The Tidal Wave used a fluid transfer system that would accelerate the speed of the bat head. Where I played in my teens at the time either had no restrictions on bats or they simply didn't bother to enforce them. Apparently, the TW actually weighed 37 ounces, but as long as you could actually get the bat to turn for you decently, once the liquid shifted toward the barrel, the weight worked completely in your favor. Even someone who didn't have much power could hit some bombs and if you had a little power, you suddenly felt like Jose Canseco with that bat in your hands because you could hit HUGE homers consistently. Fielding line drives coming off that bat was SCARY and it'd be a major miracle if nobody wasn't killed by one. I couldn't find any videos anywhere with the Tidal Wave, but there's actually a couple for sale on Ebay.
I only played a couple of seasons of Little League back in the early 2000s. I always wondered why we used metal bats, but pros didn't. I was told that they're banned in MLB because they hit the ball too far, but kids use them because it lets them hit further. That was my understanding as a child.
I played on a state championship baseball team in Texas in '99 (Collinsville, TX), and we used nothing but Redline and Reflex C-cores, and they were pretty hot bats. I can't imagine using an Orange Stealth!
I remember when all the companies switched to composite and the everyone was put at a drop 3 rule. We had a kid in our local that died from one of those bats. Worse part was that the kid that was hitting had been using a different bat all game and only hit a few slow grounders but came up to bat at the end of the game with a composite and absolutely drilled the third baseman.
I hope you're making more money than just youtube revenue on this shit man. Your content (and jomboy) has made me care about baseball again for the first time in a decade. Make sure you get yours, bud. I want you to be able to make this your full time job because you're fucking killing it
As someone who is required to use BBCOR bats, but has a Orange Stealth, this is 100% accurate. I have the Rawling Icon BBCOR, fully composite, and fully broken in. The Orange Stealth blows it out. BBCOR bats are so strict nowadays, but for good reason. I dont wanna die while pitching (literally.)
I kinda want to see something similar to an Olympic event with juiced bats. Like an Olympic level batter using a two-year old Orange Stealth and just tracking how far the balls go. I think people would be curious to see that.
I had a coach that insisted we all use the Orange Stealth. I was a smaller kid, so I preferred the drop 10 Green Stealth, but it is cool thinking back to swinging legend’s most infamous orange bat.
Nothing puts a smile on my face more than the memories of hitting the ball farther with my cheap lead pipe of a bat than the rich kids with the expensive bats lol
Golf uses a similar test to test to measure legality in clubs called smash factor, which is ball speed/clubhead speed. If that ratio exceeds 1.50, its ineligible for play for that user. BBCOR however is a different test that measures COR - Coefficient of Restitution. It just measures the maximum energy transfer a bat can have up to .50 mainly due to the material itself. Golf clubs can also be measured in COR - higher meaning more distance. The COR test is a good metric in baseball because it caps the energy transfer metric resulting in reasonable exit velocity but still allows athletically gifted people to hit hard by exerting more force.
I played little league in this era and I convinced my parents to buy me an expensive Easton. I didn't get the Orange Stealth because that was too much, but I got the green one. I immediately starting hitting homers easily. I was always a good hitter for being so skinny, but that season I came back hitting bombs at practice and my team was surprised. We went from last place (10th) the previous season to 2nd place all because we had a couple good bats and bomb hitters.
Yeah similar to my 12-year-old year and little league our coach had some money and purchased us the best bats possible there was a few kids on other teams that have their own private bat and they wouldn't let their teammates use it but our entire team got to use the good bats and even though we weren't the best team we won a lot of games and beat some of the best teams in the league really helped us.
So, slowpitch softball bats are in this phase right now. A ASA (USA) bat has the potential to have a ball reach up to 100 miles per hour and the pitcher being only 45 feet away sometimes lead to bad news. Slow Pitch bats are made of composite and the bats themselves have gotten to 25 OZ. The ball is were they are trying to limit these bats. 52 Core 300 Compression is a "Mush ball" it still is a hard ball and not fun to be hit with.
In 2009 during one of the post-season games there's a video of Blake Dean for LSU asking the camera man which bat to use (he was holding up the OG Orange and the newer Black and Blue). The camera panned to the orange one and he went bomb that at bat lol
I had a Reflex in my last 2 years of Little League. That thing was amazing. When I would make solid contact it felt as if the bat was grabbing the ball.
I still remember the green catalyst and orange stealth bats that my teammates had back in the 2010s... I remember the first time I used them and I drove a line drive that went through the netting on the outfield fences (our field was in a pretty crowded urban area so the netting basically meant we can never got a homerun lol). Felt like I was a batting prodigy lmao. But then i switched back to a bog-standard wooden bat and I realised "damn, those stealth bats are nutty xD"
I was a freshman in Highschool in 2012. BBCOR came around during that time and I remember some of the seniors or juniors had BESR bats. The difference was just so huge between the two. I thought the Z1000 had some serious pop until you picked up a older Triton or Catayslt and you were “ohhhhhh this is niceeeee”
i played 3B for Travel/ D1 in Seattle (choppy rock covered fields and wet turf) during the BESR era right before they changed to BBCOR (right as the Orange Stealth came out, I had the red one which was the first model). you guys have it easy these days! a big ol hoss at 6'4" 230 hittin piss missiles at you across a rocky field with an Orange Stealth was a literal death sentence ahahaha
Easton Bats have always had a reputation as the hardest hitting with a huge sweet spot. Dangerous to the Pitchers though. In my day The Easton Black Magic at 30 inches and 28 oz was the best in 1990. ❤ Baseball
I played softball with the DeMarini Double Wall, and it was the most prized bat around. One thing they talked about was a bigger sweet spot. Of course if you used it below 50 degrees or so it would dent lol
The Stealth Comp, the Easton XL1 (2013?) yellow bats, and the Easton 2014/2015 Mako bats are in my opinion the most juiced bats ever - especially the Stealth Comp though, as the others were BBCOR certified.
I’ve always wondered why baseball players don’t wear any protective gear, apart from the batter and catcher ofc. If people just had helmets and face protection we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Do you guys remember the Worth Copperhead? That was the bat I always used. My last year playing I had a .666 batting average but not a single homerun during a game, lol. I played catcher from my first year of little league until my last year of high school and my knees hate me for it. I figured out that taking downers(benzo's) along with pain killers was a really good time and that was the end of my baseball career.
It’s important to note the data of the second insurgence of the stealth reflects that of the best teams and thus the statistical hitters using it. It was a lot of sec teams. This is a false positive and it has been alluded to as such in litigation. The science behind breaking in composites also isn’t sound not how they approached it atleast. Composites I think ppl confuse what it means. These bats are hybrid material reinforced with carbon fiber lays. I don’t work in baseball but I work on cars specifically ones that hit tracks as a fabricator and work with carbon fiber in all its processes on a daily basis. It’s flat out propaganda that “breaking” carbon fibers bonds somehow breaks it in. This is comedically false, and how it’s said here which is mostly reflective of the way the ncaa also stated it has no peer reviewed support. These companies are incredibly smart. Ever wonder why they asked for a drop in bat speed for BESR? Thats the key. It was exploiting a loop hole in testing that isn’t reflective in real life bc no one is swinging that slow. But the idea was atleast publicly reading the filed documents for litigation that when the speed dropped for tests , it wasn’t calibrated with an overhaul for the new bat speed and thus more difficult to “barrel” or sweet spot. But when retested snd the test was taken more seriously with more data and a contrarian pov, they were quick to make a proper test. Every core has a proverbial sweet spot. All composite structures do where the distribution is centered. What isn’t in the papers that I speculate must have happened is some manipulation in the very very small barrel of the bat that wouldn’t impact the overall structure noticeably but hitters could find and exploit. Again the composite material is the foundation and smart people can slightly adjust different areas with different material with the reinforced polymer shell. I actually cut my Z2K in half when I started my career as an exercise actually as this tech is shockingly advanced for what it is and found exactly that. I’m not smart enough to understand what material they used and why but someone knew what they were doing.
💯. I played in college in the mid-2000s for a team who worked with LS. The bats were so hot, they would literally break/shatter. We went through multiple Gen1Xs. You knew when they were getting close, we wouldn’t use them in practice or BP and we would only break them out for big games, regionals, etc. The thought of bat flipping never came into my mind. I’d nuke a ball and gentle set the bat on the ground. That’s how you knew the bat was fire….🤣😂🤣😂
I remember when the Orange Stealth first came out in 07, nobody really used them... but then they started getting popular a full year later when the next year's version had already come out (the all blue stealth). It took that long for people to realize that it literally took a full season of an entire team using this bat (THOUSANDS of hacks) to get it to enter "GOD MODE". But by that point, they were already somewhat rare to find.
The one we use in our videos is 25 years old and it still feels like it needs thousands more break-in swings.
I watch your video
Ain’t no way they spawned up
Better get to swinging in your leisure time, get that thing to barry bonds tier.
Surely there would be a way to simulate those swings... just with a pitching machine setup automated in some way, if you don't want to spend the hours in the cages yourself ;p
was looking for you in the comments instantly lol
Considering Easton was trying to get around the certification process the name Orange Stealth seems appropriate
Got to find one of these in the goodwill bins 😂
They sell em for like 4 bucks.
They're probably all broken now. Anything made of carbon degrades from repeated stress like the titan sub.
They're ridiculous. It's like a spring board but more powerful. I got to play with one in highschool.
You'll still probably only hit it 100 feet instead of 75
Good idea
@@JordanHarristhe baseball bat bros made a vid with one a couple years ago or so
In my baseball program, one of our kids was killed by getting hit in the head. That was one of the pictures with the players and coaches carrying a casket. My coach was one of the guys carrying it and he held the kids hand all the way to the hospital. Forever 11
RIP. I got hit in the forehead when I was 10 by a line drive and my personality changed. I'm lucky I wasn't more seriously hurt.
Crazy u watch the channel
Was he a pitcher? A ball came back right at him?
That’s horrible. I’m sorry for your loss. But even a standard ash -3 wood bat can produce exit velocity of 110 mph. Slowpitch bats can reach over 125mph velocity. It’s a dangerous game, you gotta pay attention and have quick instincts especially as an infielder.
Was that Kelsey? It’s so sad! I still say prayers for him and his family
Before this video, I never understood why the NCAA allows metal bats if the MLB does not. After this video, I DEFINITELY don't understand why the NCAA allows metal mats if the MLB does not...
Doesn’t make any sense.
You would think that they would want players to be used to wooden bats… instead of having to readjust due to many years of using juiced aluminum bats.
Cause the NCAA doesn't give a shit about sports other than football and men's basketball. Baseball doesn't make enough money for them to put nearly as much effort into it as they do for football and basketball.
My impression was that it was due to wooden bats being prone to breaking and that being considered riskier, certainly for catchers who get a faceful of splinters. But I could be mistaken.
I mean, as they show at the end, modern metal bats are basically the equivalent of wood anyway.
@@Tinil0 the weight distribution is different. So even if they get similar results you'd think they'd want players to get used to swinging wooden bats anyways just to get the feel for it
growing up playing little league i just used whatever bat my dad bought me. turns out i was using black magics the entire time. he knew
Watching a Baseball doesnt exist video moments after it comes out rather than watching it after months is legendary
What the fuck kind of sentence is this?
I'll never forget the switch to BBCOR in the middle of high school. All of us were absolutely dumbfounded by the lack of pop in them coming from swinging BESR the whole time until that point. But BBCOR advanced fast af, and a few years later the difference was hardly noticeable. Either that, or we just eventually forgot what the prime BESR models felt like and just got used to the BBCOR's
The switch to bbcor was my junior year. None of us went to play college ball because we couldn't hit for shit
The worst bat I ever owned was first gen BBCOR omen had zero pop and had to use a wood bat the entire season
@tokeypokey yeah crying over kids getting killed and games playing slower than ever what a fucking accomplishment I wouldn't have played either with such bullshit changes, let athletes go at it with the best possible equipment bar none no excuses, bring back the fucking exciting bats 😂
Now i understand what they mean when guys offer bat rolling services. they are using compression rollers to juice the composite bats by simulating seasons of use in a few hours/days
Never heard of that but not surprised it exists. This whole video is pretty shocking in general though.
I remember when my kid was playing travel ball. This was common.
DUDE, that shot at 0:53 with the Stealth/Voodoo/Catalyst/EXO brings back so many amazing memories.... what a time to be alive and playing ball. I'm 30 next year, and man, do I miss those days :(
AND THE TRITON AT 11:25 !!!!! My God!!! Growing up playing in the early 2000's and till about 2018, my dad had one of the black/grey and red TPX from the 90's with the HUGE barrels, as well as an Easton Reflex and an Easton Black Magic, and I will NEVER forget the first time I went out with him to take BP and used the TPX and Reflex when I had only ever swung a BESR up till then. The difference was insane. Still have them too haha. Just bring them out for BP once in a blue moon at the park to have fun.
Same bro this vid brings all the nostalgia. Voodoo was my fav used that all through club and high school
@@JamesSchmidt713 Got me feeling ALL the nostalgia. Me and my Black Magic were INSEPERABLE coming up. Memories...
The orange Easton Stealth is my favorite home intruder weapon
Funny. I have that EXO one for that same purpose!
I got a Louisville Slugger Attack for that purpose
That’s messed up lol
At first I thought you meant used for breaking into a place but now I realize you meant self defense lol
I can already see the burglars drop everything screaming and hustling to the front door the second they see the bat.
Bats weren't the only thing that were juiced in the 90's
That's so crazy. I played HS baseball during the easton stealth comp era. It's so interesting that everyone knew those things were duds off the rack and you had to "break them in" like a glove, but I never knew why until today.
I remember we used to take all day batting practices all using the same 3 bats
I wish you'd used an actual composite bat sound instead of the aluminum "ding" each time the ball was hit with a composite bat. Anyone who's played with a composite bat instantly knows the unique thwack sound they make. Composite bats sound like an alien weapon being used.
7:30 I love when the music changes lol
You know things are going to get serious when that music drops
Do you know the song name?
Yeah for real would love a playlist of the songs
The stealth was pretty hot, but the bats of the early 2000s were even hotter like the redline and reflex that were banned during my hs playing days
Yea i had a redline and air attack before that. I was wrecking shit at 155 lbs 😂
Someone should have told Oceangate's CEO that composite materials have a tendency to "break in"
Someone should have also told him that an Xbox One controller is only like 20 more dollars than what he paid for his 2000s Logitech he pulled out of the junk drawer too
I remember in about 1989 I asked my Dad why pros didn't use aluminum bats and he responded that they'd kill someone. It felt hyperbolic at the time but God bless him he was right as usual. I have to be clear I was a basketball player. Without a father at home I never really learned how to play baseball so I never did . Therefore my knowledge on this subject is second hand for those who vehemently disagree.
Imagine Barry Bonds using an orange stealth lol
My god. The ball would have never landed
Just once, I'd like to see a Derby at Coors Field, no humidor, BESR bats. Let's see how far a human being can possibly hit a baseball.
@@js1031how far do you think? I’m going to guess 550 to 600 feet. What’s the MLB record? I don’t know
My day just got 10 times better after failing the f*ck out of a math test. 💀
"10 times better" Not sure we can trust your math there, though.
Math is for nerds
@@cs1458 Was about to comment 'no pun intended' but you beat me to it
Don't worry bro, many a great mind has had to repeat the 12th grade, maybe.
This bat was so overpowered it didn’t just ruin the game it literally got metal bats banned forever. The Orange Stealth wasn’t a bat; it was a w3ap0n.
Eric Sim should buy this bat and make a vid lmao
They have it on Momentum.
They have a bunch of banned bats in their inventory, if you watch momentum and Sim vids from around 2022 you ll see it being used
I don't know who this Eric Sim fellow is, but I definitely would like to see Shohei Bloatani swing one.
When I was 12 years old in 1995 a white Louisville TPX bat came out in that bat seemed to be pretty special, whoever used it had great results in the first time I swung and I hit a home run and that happened to me my first home run.
I was getting close to heading home runs already but the first game I use that bat my first at bat I hit a home run with it and hit all five of my home runs my 12-year-old here with it.
I'll never forget the white Louisville TPX, a lot of people were using it and the one I was using was actually a 28 25 lol
i grew up in middle tennessee playing little league in the height of the composite bat era and one of the guys i played travel ball with had an uncle that worked at rawlings in their engineering department. we would get test sample bats before they were released to market, probably illegally, and some of those test bats we would get to use were insane. probably a miracle no one was injured looking back at it.
shout out the 09 miken freak tho, that thing was an absolute monster.
“Where’s the bat that killed that guy?” I shouldn’t laugh at that but I did
The american spirit!
Gold and Black Easton Reflex was insane as well. I coached Middle School like 10 years back and let my kids use it (there wasn’t any restrictions) and we had 4 kids hit HRs that year, and legit 330 down the line fields.
Easton orange stealth, combat b2, Easton red omen, and the black b1 or b3 I forget were insane
Easton also made the hype fire that’s crazy
My dad bought me one of these from a second hand sports store for my first year of kid pitch. Still have it, still bangs.
I had the blue easton stealth bat in high school, and I batted over .400 and hit a lifetime high 14 home runs, the bat got banned and I never hit more than 10 again. I'll never forget the feeling of hitting absolute monsters off the tee with ol' blue.
Exactly why this is my favorite baseball RUclips channel. Keep crushing it man.
Another banger from my favorite channel about a sport I never watch
I was playing Travel Ball during this time, and during a USSSA showcase in AZ, 90% of hitters in the 1-5 slots were all using the Stealth or Exo. But that orange stealth was the only one everyone called a literal cheater bat. That thing was spooky af, thank god I was an outfielder. Buddy living life as a third baseman probably has PTSD from holding a hot corner against Highschool and college hitters swinging those bats. 1990-2012 bats went crazy. It has been cool to see BBCOR find ways to emulate that performance at a relatively safer level.
My Highschool district banned those bats around 2010 due to a pitcher getting put in a coma from a comebacker.
To be fair, the voices calling to ban metal bats have been speaking since i was born in the 80s
I actually have an EXO Grid that I got from a garage sale and it was amazing when I used it in practice (never played competitively). Nowadays it's in rough shape in my garage with the end of the barrel missing (I taped the bottom of a Powerade bottle on it) and the grip replaced with bandage wrapping
I’ll take it if you don’t want it
as a hitter i loved these bats, as a pitcher they were unfair
Basically, Easton applied Swingweight; Where the distribution of mass on the bat influenced how heavy the bat was to swing. So if a bat was 30 inches and weighed 25 ounces, depending on where most of the mass was centered, it determined the swingweight.
More mass towards the tip of the bat = Higher swingweight = More difficult to swing = More powerful
More mass towards the handle = Less influence on swingweight = Easier to swing = Higher swing speeds.
I play tennis, so I already figured out what Easton did when he said that the bats felt "heavier" when swung despite weighing "lighter." The governing body was measuring the static weight, which is how much the bat weighed stationary. So anyway you organize it, it will still weigh whatever it was listed as. When swung is where the Pandora's Box of Bats and Rackets was opened.
What a fantastic video, they're always done so well. I remember those Black Magic and TPX bats like it was yesterday. We went from hitting the completely garbage 20 year old metal bags in little leagues, and someone bought a new one for the first player pitch year. It was the most amazing difference in the world. Even bad swings seemed to crush it.
I don't play baseball (anymore really. Just some pickup stuff with my nephews) or even watch baseball that much but this channel is absolutely the best thing if you enjoy baseball in the slightest. Now I gotta brag to my older nephew about the bats we had back then and shame his BB core he was so confident about. Hahaha! I love them so much but he can be a punk!
That catalystx1 got me my first dinger.
Still got the bad boy.
Yk it’s a good day when bde posts
I remember using it, it got better as you used it more. Some people were “rolling” this bat to give it even more pop. I’d say it is the best bat I used as a kid
You make the GREATEST sports videos of anyone on youtube and i always look forward to every new one you post
baseball in the 90s and early 00s are just so wild and fun
bro I've never even watched a baseball game ever but your stuff is legendary
Thank you BDE for the new video. Also on how different are the metal bats from the wooden ones? Cracking home runs with a metal bat sounds powerful but you're also vulnerable. Happy Holidays everyone
Can’t wait for Bat Bros to pull a Stealth out to end the year
When I was in HS, we always had the latest bats Easton provided. The Stealth Comp actually caught on in 2006 and 2007. That silver and red one they released the first time around was just as good. The problem was they NEVER broke and they only got hotter the more swings you put on them. We did the total opposite of what people do with composite bats now. We'd have the entire team taking BP with two bats leading up to the season starting. We'd continue doing the same thing through out the season. I graduated 07, but we were given an orange Stealth Comp. I think the orange one actually released late in our season of 2007. We barely used it because the older Stealth Comp's we had were so much more broken in lol. Surprised I never got hurt playing both 3rd and 1st.
Crazy they created all these bats for a sport that doesn’t exist
That bat ruled my high school baseball team for 7 years, after it got banned someone drilled holes into and dressed it up like our mascot, for all I know it still goes to every game.
I think the most juiced bat I ever saw/used was the Tidal Wave which was manufactured by Spalding in the late 80s. I am pretty sure it was actually designed as a softball bat, but hitting baseballs with it was unreal. The Tidal Wave used a fluid transfer system that would accelerate the speed of the bat head. Where I played in my teens at the time either had no restrictions on bats or they simply didn't bother to enforce them. Apparently, the TW actually weighed 37 ounces, but as long as you could actually get the bat to turn for you decently, once the liquid shifted toward the barrel, the weight worked completely in your favor. Even someone who didn't have much power could hit some bombs and if you had a little power, you suddenly felt like Jose Canseco with that bat in your hands because you could hit HUGE homers consistently. Fielding line drives coming off that bat was SCARY and it'd be a major miracle if nobody wasn't killed by one. I couldn't find any videos anywhere with the Tidal Wave, but there's actually a couple for sale on Ebay.
Low-key hated using one. I liked to hear that metal ping, but I dont doubt we won a few championships on the backs of those stealth bats! 😂
I remember those late 90's bats - the walls were so thin, the were actually cracking even in high school rec use.
Hockey Workouts + Those Stealths = Moonshots Id never imagine Id be able to hit. Insane fun with these things in HS man.
I only played a couple of seasons of Little League back in the early 2000s. I always wondered why we used metal bats, but pros didn't. I was told that they're banned in MLB because they hit the ball too far, but kids use them because it lets them hit further. That was my understanding as a child.
It's a bat so dangerous, it makes baseball not exist!
I played on a state championship baseball team in Texas in '99 (Collinsville, TX), and we used nothing but Redline and Reflex C-cores, and they were pretty hot bats. I can't imagine using an Orange Stealth!
Best journalism in baseball easily
Fire edit! Teach me how!
I remember when all the companies switched to composite and the everyone was put at a drop 3 rule. We had a kid in our local that died from one of those bats. Worse part was that the kid that was hitting had been using a different bat all game and only hit a few slow grounders but came up to bat at the end of the game with a composite and absolutely drilled the third baseman.
I hope you're making more money than just youtube revenue on this shit man. Your content (and jomboy) has made me care about baseball again for the first time in a decade. Make sure you get yours, bud. I want you to be able to make this your full time job because you're fucking killing it
I haven't heard a sponsorship on any of your stuff. Get one bro
You have the audience, and nobody would blame you
As someone who is required to use BBCOR bats, but has a Orange Stealth, this is 100% accurate. I have the Rawling Icon BBCOR, fully composite, and fully broken in. The Orange Stealth blows it out. BBCOR bats are so strict nowadays, but for good reason. I dont wanna die while pitching (literally.)
HS pitcher? Have you ever had a line drive straight back at you?
@extragoogleaccount6061 Oh yeah, many
I kinda want to see something similar to an Olympic event with juiced bats. Like an Olympic level batter using a two-year old Orange Stealth and just tracking how far the balls go. I think people would be curious to see that.
I still think highschool should use wood
some do, it's just hard af to be good at that age
@ It’s also hard to get scouted if a wood bat state because you’d be having pedestrian numbers compared to guys using metal bats.
They would need to lower the price significantly for that to even be a possibility, not many high schoolers can be buying 3+ bats a year
That’s because your no fun Mr knows nothing
@@RealBrizzNot to mention less skilled players are gonna kill more bats
I had a coach that insisted we all use the Orange Stealth. I was a smaller kid, so I preferred the drop 10 Green Stealth, but it is cool thinking back to swinging legend’s most infamous orange bat.
Wait until he learns about the hype fire
the Exo, orange TPX Omaha and the Stealth were all filthy
Nothing puts a smile on my face more than the memories of hitting the ball farther with my cheap lead pipe of a bat than the rich kids with the expensive bats lol
Golf uses a similar test to test to measure legality in clubs called smash factor, which is ball speed/clubhead speed. If that ratio exceeds 1.50, its ineligible for play for that user. BBCOR however is a different test that measures COR - Coefficient of Restitution. It just measures the maximum energy transfer a bat can have up to .50 mainly due to the material itself. Golf clubs can also be measured in COR - higher meaning more distance. The COR test is a good metric in baseball because it caps the energy transfer metric resulting in reasonable exit velocity but still allows athletically gifted people to hit hard by exerting more force.
I played little league in this era and I convinced my parents to buy me an expensive Easton. I didn't get the Orange Stealth because that was too much, but I got the green one. I immediately starting hitting homers easily. I was always a good hitter for being so skinny, but that season I came back hitting bombs at practice and my team was surprised. We went from last place (10th) the previous season to 2nd place all because we had a couple good bats and bomb hitters.
Yeah similar to my 12-year-old year and little league our coach had some money and purchased us the best bats possible there was a few kids on other teams that have their own private bat and they wouldn't let their teammates use it but our entire team got to use the good bats and even though we weren't the best team we won a lot of games and beat some of the best teams in the league really helped us.
Seeing videos like this always makes me wonder how far bat tech would go if there were no regulations
So, slowpitch softball bats are in this phase right now. A ASA (USA) bat has the potential to have a ball reach up to 100 miles per hour and the pitcher being only 45 feet away sometimes lead to bad news. Slow Pitch bats are made of composite and the bats themselves have gotten to 25 OZ. The ball is were they are trying to limit these bats. 52 Core 300 Compression is a "Mush ball" it still is a hard ball and not fun to be hit with.
I had a reflex c core, a Redline and then z core. God they were freaking awesome bats!
Yeah I remember playing HS ball in the late 90s and having an Easton redline
In 2009 during one of the post-season games there's a video of Blake Dean for LSU asking the camera man which bat to use (he was holding up the OG Orange and the newer Black and Blue). The camera panned to the orange one and he went bomb that at bat lol
I had a Reflex in my last 2 years of Little League. That thing was amazing. When I would make solid contact it felt as if the bat was grabbing the ball.
I still remember the green catalyst and orange stealth bats that my teammates had back in the 2010s... I remember the first time I used them and I drove a line drive that went through the netting on the outfield fences (our field was in a pretty crowded urban area so the netting basically meant we can never got a homerun lol).
Felt like I was a batting prodigy lmao. But then i switched back to a bog-standard wooden bat and I realised "damn, those stealth bats are nutty xD"
I was a freshman in Highschool in 2012. BBCOR came around during that time and I remember some of the seniors or juniors had BESR bats. The difference was just so huge between the two. I thought the Z1000 had some serious pop until you picked up a older Triton or Catayslt and you were “ohhhhhh this is niceeeee”
So close to that 1 MILLION sub mark. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
i played 3B for Travel/ D1 in Seattle (choppy rock covered fields and wet turf) during the BESR era right before they changed to BBCOR (right as the Orange Stealth came out, I had the red one which was the first model). you guys have it easy these days! a big ol hoss at 6'4" 230 hittin piss missiles at you across a rocky field with an Orange Stealth was a literal death sentence ahahaha
Easton Bats have always had a reputation as the hardest hitting with a huge sweet spot. Dangerous to the Pitchers though. In my day The Easton Black Magic at 30 inches and 28 oz was the best in 1990. ❤ Baseball
I played softball with the DeMarini Double Wall, and it was the most prized bat around. One thing they talked about was a bigger sweet spot. Of course if you used it below 50 degrees or so it would dent lol
Aluminum bats are for softball, not baseball.
The Stealth Comp, the Easton XL1 (2013?) yellow bats, and the Easton 2014/2015 Mako bats are in my opinion the most juiced bats ever - especially the Stealth Comp though, as the others were BBCOR certified.
JUDGE NEED ONE OF THOSE BATS FOR THE POSTSEASON
Playing 1B while holding a runner on the bag and then seeing a lefty come up to bat with THIS bat in his hand….. I guess it was my time to meet god….
I’ve always wondered why baseball players don’t wear any protective gear, apart from the batter and catcher ofc. If people just had helmets and face protection we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Lotta lore for a sport that doesn’t exist…
Buster Posey with that red Exo-Grid was absurd
The orange stealth and the red stealth were goated in my early days of travel ball
They should just use wooden bats from little league to MLB. There’s smaller lighter bats that kids could use
When my little league took first place, we all used the rich kid's Reflex C-Core bat. It all makes sense now.
The Combat B2 was so good. It got banned the year before we went to the little league world series in 2010
No introduction just spitting facts😂
BESR bats popped like you would not believe. There was a rumor that if you squeezed the barrel you could get more power lol
Do you guys remember the Worth Copperhead? That was the bat I always used. My last year playing I had a .666 batting average but not a single homerun during a game, lol. I played catcher from my first year of little league until my last year of high school and my knees hate me for it. I figured out that taking downers(benzo's) along with pain killers was a really good time and that was the end of my baseball career.
Still have a few bats from my playing days.
I was naive and only used Wilson gloves and Demarini.
It’s important to note the data of the second insurgence of the stealth reflects that of the best teams and thus the statistical hitters using it. It was a lot of sec teams. This is a false positive and it has been alluded to as such in litigation. The science behind breaking in composites also isn’t sound not how they approached it atleast. Composites I think ppl confuse what it means. These bats are hybrid material reinforced with carbon fiber lays. I don’t work in baseball but I work on cars specifically ones that hit tracks as a fabricator and work with carbon fiber in all its processes on a daily basis. It’s flat out propaganda that “breaking” carbon fibers bonds somehow breaks it in. This is comedically false, and how it’s said here which is mostly reflective of the way the ncaa also stated it has no peer reviewed support. These companies are incredibly smart. Ever wonder why they asked for a drop in bat speed for BESR? Thats the key. It was exploiting a loop hole in testing that isn’t reflective in real life bc no one is swinging that slow. But the idea was atleast publicly reading the filed documents for litigation that when the speed dropped for tests , it wasn’t calibrated with an overhaul for the new bat speed and thus more difficult to “barrel” or sweet spot. But when retested snd the test was taken more seriously with more data and a contrarian pov, they were quick to make a proper test. Every core has a proverbial sweet spot. All composite structures do where the distribution is centered.
What isn’t in the papers that I speculate must have happened is some manipulation in the very very small barrel of the bat that wouldn’t impact the overall structure noticeably but hitters could find and exploit. Again the composite material is the foundation and smart people can slightly adjust different areas with different material with the reinforced polymer shell. I actually cut my Z2K in half when I started my career as an exercise actually as this tech is shockingly advanced for what it is and found exactly that. I’m not smart enough to understand what material they used and why but someone knew what they were doing.
This is so fun awesome ridiculous had no idea this existed Thank you so much for this.
Was just jonesing for a good youtube vid. You knew, didn't you?
💯. I played in college in the mid-2000s for a team who worked with LS. The bats were so hot, they would literally break/shatter. We went through multiple Gen1Xs. You knew when they were getting close, we wouldn’t use them in practice or BP and we would only break them out for big games, regionals, etc. The thought of bat flipping never came into my mind. I’d nuke a ball and gentle set the bat on the ground. That’s how you knew the bat was fire….🤣😂🤣😂