"west elm caleb" proves tik tok users are actually insane
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"west elm caleb" proves tik tok users are actually insane
Hey guys!! welcome back to my second channel :)) today i thought we could talk about a situation that happened a few weeks ago on tik tok concerning a guy dubbed "west elm caleb." If you've been on the internet in the past month you've probably seen at least one person referring to the situation but if you don't know the whole story, it all started when a few girls living in new york happened to post tik toks about their experience with a guy they had all met on Hinge named Caleb who worked at West Elm. People started connecting the similarities in their stories and once the girls realized they were all talking about the same guy the flood gates opened and tons of people came forward with their own stories of West Elm Caleb and how they had been ghosted by him too. The hashtag #westelmcaleb started trending on the app and the flood gates opened content wise with tons of people joining in on memes about the situation as well, as of right now the hashtag has over 60 million views.
Since this is tik tok though of course some people took it too far and started doxing Caleb by posting his full dating profile, full name, Linkedin profile and even started contacting West Elm to get him fired from his job over the situation... just basically trying to ruin this guys life. It got so bad that some of the original girls that had viral videos on Caleb and their experience with him had to come out and tell people to calm down because it had reached such an insane point. I thought it'd be an interesting topic for a stream because while West Elm Caleb might be one of the more severe examples of this kind of reaction to drama concerning regular people on tik tok (sort of like the couch guy tik tok situation), I don't think it'll be the last and who knows how much more out of hand it could get in the future. Sooo we'll be looking through the whole situation in today's video and talking about the implications of it all, I'd love to hear what you guys think about it in the comments below if you wanna share but otherwise I hope you enjoy the video!! :)
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The girl who goes off on how he deleted all his socials like it isn’t a normal response to being under attack from a random internet mob when you don’t even have a platform is peak internet derangement.
I thought dozing was supposed to be illegal anyway?
I DETEST the way that terms like "lovebombing" and "gaslighting" get thrown around on the Internet--especially Twitter and TikTok. It trivializes actual instances of these things, and then turns actions that aren't a huge deal (such as the actions of West Elm Caleb) into examples of "abusive behaviour".
And THEN, because of the target's "abusive behaviour", everyone essentially gets a free pass to engage in actually toxic behaviour, like doxxing, sending threats, etc. There are plenty of awful people online, but sometimes the truly heinous ones hide behind an aesthetic of righteousness while attacking others.
It annoys me and I haven't even experienced love bombing or gaslighting and can't imagine how frustrating it would be for someone who has experienced it
Yeah exactly!!! Lovebombing is such a specific term. It's so much more dangerous than just "oh this guy sent me a bunch of nice messages and ghosted me". Lovebombing followed by emotional distancing can absolutely be part of emotional abuse but not like whatever is going on here
THIS WAS SO WELL SAID OMG BUT LIKE RIGHT??? i hate how the internet turns everything into a “trend” even like real issues
Yeah I’ve been told online 30+ times in the past few years to stop “completely misusing words like ‘’narcissist”!” When venting, like. No. I ran away from home after my ribs got broken in back in 2017, my dad was then diagnosed professionally, the whole deal, I don’t use the vocabulary facetiously. I get that stuff has become twisted because of misinformation, but yes real victims are being believed less and less & we were already suffering pre tiktok in that sense. Very tiring stuff indeed
notice how they all say lovebombing but no one ever tells examples of HOW he lovebombes
Doxing is freaking scary and creepy and should never be done, no matter what the person did. Ghosting is whack, sending unsolicited dick pics is gross but this is not a sane response, especially if you're a third party that just heard about this story.
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@@twsangre3318 hi twitter user! i just saw a twitter user girl!
@@twsangre3318 if calling you a twitter user is offensive, then your proving my point 😭 and I love twitter
@@twsangre3318 but doxing is still committing a crime. you can report people online to the police without doxing
@@twsangre3318 it's not but ok
I was lovebombed and this sounds nothing like what I experienced. I started seeing a guy and he bought lots of expensive gifts took me to 5 star restaurants etc. etc. Then we became official and it just all of a sudden stopped. Now it was "you need to lose weight", "you don't dress well" and "I would love you more if..." literally as soon as we were an official couple the act dropped.
Fucking hell, that sounds horrible. Sorry that happened to you and I’m glad you’re out of that 🌙
That's textbook narcissistic behavior- love bomb until you get emotionally hooked and invested, then devalue to lower self-esteem, and eventually discard, or if you discard them before they're able to, then they set up a smear campaign to damage your reputation, then in some cases, there's hoovering to keep you stuck as their source of supply. Best way to handle it is to go no contact. I hope you got out of that situation, relationships like that can be tough to leave. I recommend watching Dr. Ramani's channel, she's a psychologist that's specializes in narcissism and healing from emotional abuse.
I’m sorry you went through that
@@kinseydesignsbrands thats called emotional abuse npd has nothing to do with it
@@lemonadebi I would not say it has "nothing to do with it." Can people without NPD be emotionally abusive? Yes, of course! Can someone with NPD not be emotionally abusive? Yes, of course! Narcissism is a spectrum and all people have some narcissistic tendencies, especially if they have issues with self esteem and self love. However, the behaviors I described in my comment are *strongly* correlated with NPD, specifically people that are *deep* narcissists, as Robert Greene describes in his book Laws of Human Nature. I say all this from personal experience, having family members who had/have strong narcissistic tendencies and 5+ years of research and a senior thesis on human behavior, identity and empathy.
I remember commenting under one of these tiktoks about how the whole situation had turned in to a bit of a witch hunt and got a bunch of responses calling me a pick-me. There are no words.
Women treat men like cattle on dating apps and then get upset when it happens them.
@@mymumisphatand8601 man, that sucks. I wonder if there's any sort of historical thing where for almost all of history in at least one part of the world women were literally treated like animals? Would be soooo weird if that were a thing.
@@mymumisphatand8601 not what she was saying but ok lol
@@mymumisphatand8601 men have treated women like second class citizens for centuries, it wasnt that long ago that when we finally had multiple parades and protests we were finally allowed to vote. Like stfu lmao
That happened to me when I was trying to defend couch girl
This is a targeted hate campaign at this point, and I find it really gross that some of these women are apparently fine with that because he... ghosted them? Like hey man that is straight up revenge! This is incel behavior, harrassing someone you wanted to date because they ended up not wanting to date you is deeply fucked up! I hate to be that person but if this was a bunch of dudes cheering on the doxxing of a girl who ghosted them, i think it would be a lot clearer how fucked up this all is.
You say it.
If any of those girls realized they were acting like incels they’d be so embarrassed, but I’m sure their comment sections are echo chambers
Be that person. You're spitting facts.
yeah ghosting someone you met on a dating app is pretty common… not saying it’s necessarily right to do but it’s not worth all this trouble. he’s just some dude lol
That's a well put thought you have
First of all, I'm sick of ghosting being treated with such fervor. Like it should only be considered "ghosting" if you have been on multiple dates. Not replying to you on a dating app or not seeing you again after the first date is not ghosting. We're practically strangers at that point. I don't tell the lady I had a nice conversation with in the checkout line that I'm not interested in pursuing the relationship further.
Secondly, this is not love-bombing. You had a nice conversation and a got a cool playlist out of it and that was the end of it. You weren't manipulated into an abusive situation because this man didn't text you back.
yeah i feel like ghosting was originally coined to refer to "my boyfriend of 2 years cut off all contact with me and i had to call his parents to make sure he wasn't dead" type scenarios, and now it's been so diluted that people use it for every instance where they don't get a text back. it's not ghosting if a guy you haven't even met yet sends you a playlist and then decides he's not feeling it anymore.
Well there needs to be a term for a acting a certain way getting sex then leaving with out saying anything. Like tell me like an adult you don’t want to go further. Don’t act all nice then block someone on everything after you sleep with them. It’s just a human thing to do especially after having sex with them. But this is obviously not what happened with this. Just agreeing that this isn’t ghosting and Caleb thing is just lost of flirting. This is a very odd situation
@@-hayleymc_is_tired-5038 I don't personally like the terminology but I have heard the phrase "pump and dump" used in those situations.
@@thejazzy6012 ahh yes what a lovely way to talk about a persons body. I’m glad you know it’s messed. There is a big issue with manipulating people into having sex. And no you don’t have to stay but have the decency to tell me. Like I’m not looking down on hook up culture I just think we need to respect those we hook up with. Im not going to stalk you or be in love after one time but I do expect respect for my body from the person I’m giving it to. But thanks for being a good person and not using it.
There’s a common courtesy of saying hey I’m sorry im not interested anymore
I heard “West Elm Caleb” but assumed it was like an “Alex from Target” situation and wasn’t interested. This is so much worse. They made his pics into NFT’s?? What if people started doing that to your dating profile? That’s terrible. The guy is literally being doxxed for speaking to women on a dating app and deciding to eventually say no. These people in TT will talk about needing no reason to turn a man down they don’t want to date and yet Caleb is being harassed to extreme levels for doing the same. Yeah ghosting sucks but sorry he doesn’t really owe you anything just because you matched on tinder
Same here! I didn’t even look into it because I figured it was some hot worker obsession which is bizarre in its own right
💯 Slay qween.
Jokes aside, it is a ridiculous situation. How can you even make NFTs from a dating profile? I thought NFT was artwork people can reuse? I honestly cannot keep up with modern culture and I'm not even 30. Gonna just get a cabin and move there with my German Shepherd and resign to a life of purely positive vibing.
The thing that irks me the most about this Caleb situation is that the women calling him out are completely ignorant of their own hypocrisy. I can guarantee they're all also speaking to multiple men at the same time. They've probably all ghosted a guy for someone else hotter or more interesting. One of the girls explicitly says she was going to add Caleb to her "roster" of men then proceeds to rant about Caleb...having a roster, that she was part of. Honestly, this is just exemplary of a certain breed of toxic feminism that seems rampant on social media now, one that propogates this idea that women are simultaneously strong, independent queens who dont need no man, whilst also perfect princesses who can do no wrong and who need to be protected from the evils of fuckboys like Caleb. It's moral pandering and perpetual adolescence. Have some emotional maturity, people!
Exactly!
@@harrypike5140 they can be anything that is in digital form, you can make an NFT out of your selfie’s (some dude did it) a bunch of randomized profile stuffs, or an already made artwork, you can even make it out of videos.. even if they already exist on some platforms for free
@@harrypike5140 honestly yeah it’s the fact that many people are claiming themselves to be responsible women but take the innocent can’t do no wrong argument to shield themselves from any criticism like if one claims to be “responsible and independent” please take accountability on the stupid things you do and say 💀
That’s just dating apps for ya 🙂 sure it’s sucks being ghosted but they’re making this man out to be a villain for just typical hinge behaviour?? This is wild and dating apps can be messy
its legit wild i saw ppl saying it was assault because he was like talking to them under the pretense that he wouldnt ghost them or something. literally insane
@@royalpeaches7183 W H A T
LMAO
I've been on enough dating apps to know that this is typical behavior and that all those women were also probably talking to 3 other guys and ghosted them when Calab showed more interest.
That's what you do! Dating apps somewhat encourage you to have your options lined up because it's fairly common for things to fall through with 1 or more matches.
@@stacie1595 you are so right, I know I did the same lmao. Talk to someone until someone better comes along then you just don’t reply anymore and you always have someone else lined up or else tinder or hinge would only allow you to have one match at a time
@@Colleen10119 exactly! If I can match with and talk to 4 guys at once, I'll take my time and find the one amongst them that seems the best 🤷🏼♀️
love the idea of selling "i participated in an obsessive and unjustified harrassment campaign" merch
Digital harassment is super hard to go after, but I think people who sell that type of merch should be the first to face legal repercussions lol
@@jestenia590 To a degree, but these people would make it very easy for him if he wanted to take legal action lol.
That white-crypto lady joking about reparations, mmkayyyyyy. Also 4chan-tendencies of doxxing/harassing random people spreading throughout the entire internet is nightmare fuel
ngl it passes me off how people lowkey celebrates 4chans toxicity while making hating other social media sites like twitter their personalities. Literally there all the same but people pick and choose what social media's is bad and what's good
My understanding of lovebombing is that it exists within the cycle of abuse. Excessive praise, gifts, etc are used by an abuser either before or as a way to make up for abusive behavior in order to get the abused person to trust them, stay with them, etc. It is the honeymoon phase of the cycle of abuse that makes the person being abused think that their abuser isn’t that bad and entices them to stay. This doesn’t sound like that at all. Seeing increasingly serious terms get thrown around on social media makes my blood boil
Yeah, lovebombing is about a cycle of abuse. Not sending you a ready-made playlist and texting a lot. I REALLY want an end to the trend of using serious psychological terms for trivial actions
Love bombing is a common recruiting tactic of cults and a potential sign of abusers. The fact that this man ghosted them afterwards probably means he wasn’t love bombing
Yeah, sounds like he was just being interested and nice about it and then stopped, which is normal I guess, for dating apps
Yeah that’s the opposite of it if he really was love bombing he would’ve kept very oddly affectionate behaviors going until they are fully in his grasp
What is it about the internet that just makes some people completely dehumanize others? Like. You’re aware that’s a person, right? Not just a bunch of pixels? You’re aware that actions have consequences, right?
Social media and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
@@harrypike5140 based
This guy just seems to be bad at dating and a serial ghoster. Like it's weird that he did the same thing to so many girls, but that doesnt make him deserving of all this. I think this experience just spoke to a lot of women and theyre taking out thier own dating frustrations on this one man.
So in a nutshell there are people endangering this mans life because they’re offended that they didn’t get to date him? Strange
Femcels. As deranged as incels.
exactly. as a woman, i find the hypocrisy and double standard concerning. we get upset when a man starts harassing a girl when they don’t respond to a message or refuse to date them, and rightfully so, but that’s exactly what these girls are doing under the guise of “sleuthing” and “helping a sister out”
he is acting shady and being shitty ghosting everyone at once, that's true. but that's not what lovebombing is. lovebombing is gaining someone's trust when you overwhelm them with praise, sentimental words and feelings without meaning just so you can get what you want (get in their pants, get them to do something they're not comfortable with, etc) and then, when you get what you want, you just pull away because it didn't have meaning to you the way it had to them.
But is he really being shitty tho? Like when you go on a dating app and there isn't a connection what's the problem to not messaging the person again? They don't even know each other lmao, as far as i can see he was nice and cool when talking to the girls, and then stopped talking, so what?
Edit: ok I got to the part where she mentioned the unsolicited dick pics, but unfortunately it is still prety common behaviour in dating apps. As you said, no where close to love bombing, or even something particularly different to normal dating app exchanges :/
@@justlola417 just because it’s normalized on dating apps doesn’t make it any more okay
@@justlola417 yeah that's how dating apps are in general. Most women on there go after the same man. 😂
You could have 15 women and 15 men. At least 13 to 14 outta the 15 women will swipe right for the same 1 to 3 outta the 15 men.
Caleb is 1 of those 1 to 3 outta 15 men.
@@kennidie I mean everyone is practically strangers on dating apps so no one really has an obligation to keep it going if they aren’t interested, I guess it will be nicer if they said sth about it but at the same time no one can possibly be very hurt from just a few minutes of texting online? Like it’s one thing if both parties has explicitly stated that they are dating but one decides to dip but if it was pretty casual does it even matter who even uses dating apps for an actual serious relationship, like Tinder and all that is notorious for being used for hookups only
@@NoName-dx1no dating apps are for dating no matter what they’re nutritiously known for. you’re not obligated to do anything but it’s still a dick move to stop talking to someone entirely, out of the blue no matter how long you’ve known them for
I can't see a way that dating app review sections wouldn't be 100% negative. After you break up or move on I don't see someone feeling happy about the way their relationship went lol
Exactly. Especially because if you like going out with someone, and it’s reciprocated, you’ll probably keep going out and move on from dating apps at some point. So the people left will either be new or have not had luck dating online.
Your ex and all their friends are going to leave mutliple reviews on your dating profile
I'm so glad you have a levelheaded take on this and aren't giving in to the mob. Like what are these people thinking?
They seem like the same people who, unless it's a giant all out display of affection, then you're doing the "bare minimum", like evey interaction has to be out of a romance movie or you're not loving the right way
after this and “couch guy” situation, i will just assume that any person who goes into so much detail about a dating scenario on tiktok is just inviting their audience to ruin the other person’s life. this is what tiktok is now, and i’ll give these girls the benefit of the doubt but i feel like at least one of them knew what they were inciting by publicly discussing and dramatizing this situation. not to mention the “sleuths” who are even more at fault because of what they did to “expose” this dude. literally NO one gained anything from this ordeal. tiktok now is just a collection of scenarios you’d see in a cyberbullying PSA
this is a complete ramble with no real point but man this situation confused and annoyed me from the start lol
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People on tiktok have a habit of using words that victims rely on to identify and explain the abuse they've suffered, when all they actually mean is "a guy was kinda mean to me once". It's sh*tty and lessens the impact when people start calling anyone who ghosts them after talking for a day a "gaslighting narcissist"
I am so divorced from tiktok that I never heard of this but like... yeah it's pretty normal to be all flirty with someone on dating apps without any intention of actually meeting up with them.
Woman of New York City here, never heard of him, or any of the girls attached to him, and all of these women should feel extremely lucky if this is on their list as a bad thing that happened to them in NYC at all.
this is literally so fucked up like I never understand how these people (who are probably calling themselves an empath lmao) can’t be like “what if this was me? how would this make me feel?” regardless of what he did, this is weird and people need to stop
There are men out there living double lives with multiple families and people are worried about some dude who decides he doesn’t want to pursue a few women
As a gay man, all of this guy's actions sound like how gay dating works. Just extraordinarily normal. Obviously, don't send unsolicited dick pics, but are the apps really that different for the girlies?
Not from everything I've heard- though i cant say i have first hand experience
Not really! I've had really terrible experiences and actually good experiences with dating apps and, to be quite honest, I wouldn't even bat an eye at this lmao
Sometimes people lose interest, sometimes they meet other people, sometimes they just get tired or overwhelmed for talking to too many people at once and sometimes the conversation just doesn't flow. I would much prefer sharing a nice although short conversation with a person than, say, getting harassed by a dude that told me I looked pretty even though I had gross dyed hair and my makeup seemed too sl*tty (this actually happened to me on Tinder).
Yes, dating apps are made for women. Especially attractive white women statistics have proven this. Their experiences are a thousand times more positive than the average male. This man just did to them what women are used to doing on dating apps.
@@mariah6395 you're a woman, I'm sure your experiences were a thousand times better than any man's.
@@mymumisphatand8601 Why do y’all say this? Women are just as capable of striking out on dating apps as men. I’m 21 years old and have never dated anyone, the closest I came was sleeping with a guy who seemed interested in something consistent only for him to ghost me
thank u i literally felt like i was going insane seeing everything on tiktok. having MILLIONS of people harass someone because he ghosted people is insane. wanting to warn people in ur social circle about it is one thing, but this was ridiculous
some of these people need to get off social media and the internet and live life in the real world…. 🤦♀️🤦♀️ anyways doxxing is illegal and one day I hope one of these folks that’s the subject of the mob, gets a lawyer and sues or presses criminal charges or whatever
god I can’t stand when tiktok co-opts terms created to define and identify actual abuse to complain about the various inconveniences of casual dating while single 💀
lol I felt out of my mind reading this stuff. Dude was just an amateur player and these women are acting like they were in a committed relationship where he cheated on and abused them
You are so spot on 👍🏻
is ur profile picture a vince staples reference. i love it.
You’re being way too easy on em casey, those ppl r freaky asf. i would actually meltdown if anything like that happened to mw or anyone close. It’s so weird and scary.
I was verbally and emotionally abused by my boyfriend of 4 years, and yet I refuse to speak his name, talk about where he lives or works now, etc. because I have much better things to do with my time and I don't want to give him mental real estate.
Doxxing a man for GHOSTING is absolutely atrocious.
Ppl don’t even put this much energy into ppl that engage inappropriately with children, say slurs, or are literal spousal abusers 🚶🏾♀️
You can tell by looking at these women that they're privileged. And this guy has treated them in a way that they never been treated before so they don't know what to do with it.
I also think “canceling” someone over something like this sends mixed messages about what is considered reprehensible behavior. For example, people that are known SAers are still famous on the internet, yet this man dating in a normal way gets him a relentless hate mob. I think people enjoy jumping on the novel situations, but to try to go and defend their hate as justifiable just blurs the lines of right and wrong in the eyes of the Internet
Also in what world is doxxing someone any less harmful than whatever he's doing? Like ok his behaviour is weird but you're documenting your obsession over it get some perspective
This reminds how people are calling everything the "bare minimum" now, like unless it's a huge loud public display of affection.
Like all this is just...dating app stuff, or just dating stuff. What do people think is suppose to happen ghosting sucks a whole lot but like...???
Society has encouraged them to infantilize their behavior and expectations.
Wtf Internet I guess. Also they really overused the term "Love bombing". Probably thought it just means someone is making a lot of compliments.
Yeah I think ppl think "love bombing" is just getting fed a bunch of compliments. When in reality it would be more like say he did what he did and got their nudes, personal life details, and used it against them or turned and used it as "why won't you do this, I love you, I think you're lovely, I would do this for you why won't you". The one situation i can think of that is an actual "love bombing" is Shannon aka creepshowart here on RUclips bc she would send compliments etc to other creators but was also using them. This situation was just a guy being a dick by getting hopes up and ghosting.
as someone who was with an actual narcissist, it's harmful to see people toss around these terms that are truly so painful to experience
This was such a good video. The way you articulated how morally wrong it is to continue doing harm to a guy that didn't even do much wrong because it was "the trend" and how you didn't give into the hate mob and reasoned your way into understanding the situation, it was pretty cool + the relaxing voice lol
Nice work, Casey!
Thank you!! As someone who grew up in a household with domestic violence, I saw these behaviors firsthand growing up and these tiktok examples are not accurate portrayals AT ALL. It legitimately pissed me off when it was going down as an abuse survivor
honestly when it comes to love bombing what he was doing was trying to hook up with them. There's a difference between doing this to get into someone's pants and love bombing someone at the start of an abusive relationship. It's definitely getting the gaslight treatment.
I think ive pointed it out before but the StayC outro music!!? 🥰
no one knows what lovebombing is. If they got ghosted, there was NO lovebombing happening. that defeats the entire purpose of an abuser using this tactic.
THANK YOU!! I saw this situation unfold and I was like wtf is even going on, this is so fucked up. Like sure he wasn’t the greatest but that also doesn’t make doxxing him okay?
The scary thing is like this is real life, not just a game or television show. Honestly I don’t understand if people have lost touch with reality. The fact that you would be okay with ruining a persons life, and making genuine efforts to get him fired. Yet, many of these people act like they want kindness and justice, but this seems the exact opposite.
Watch this dude get fired by a couple of offended girls trying to cancel him because he made them a playlist then decided he wasn’t interested and ghosted them. Rejection is a part of dating 🤦🏻♀️
Literally gaslight gatekeep girlboss behavior.
There’s something extremely scary (but not surprising) to me about giant conglomerates having no qualms with targeting specific individuals (guilty or not) for the sake of marketing. If each person represents a drop in the bucket when it comes to the dog piling, then giant companies plastering this guys name over billboards and commenting on tiktoks in regards to this situation is a firehose.
These companies don’t. Give. A. Fuck. About. You. Or. Anyone. They are not your friend. One minute they’re commenting adorable jokes on your viral tiktok the next they are putting your NAME ON A BILLBOARD because you’re now the butt of the internet’s newest joke. They aim wildly and fire in all directions.
tiktok please touch grass challenge (impossible!)
This reminds me of the Ghosted TV show Drew Gooden talked about, which was already an incredibly uncomfortable show, but it's like tiktok took the show and brought it up to 100. (And also made somehow more unsafe.) In the show, the person who got ghosted hunted down the person who ghosted them. And the person who got ghosted asked the person who ghosted them a bunch of questions about why they got dumped. (It's an incredibly uncomfortable watch.)
Yes, being ghosted sucks. Even if what you think the dude did was wrong, that still doesn't warrant DOXXING him! (Which is a crime.)
I don't go on dating apps. But the people ik say that dating apps are like that. You won't click with everyone. I don't know enough about the dating scene, but idk if any of the girls said they were dating the dude.
I don't go on TikTok. Starting to be glad that I don't. This entire situation is just a giant privacy violation.
That show is horrifying. It would be incredibly easy for abusers claim they were ghosted & get an entire show to help them track down their ex. It's fucking dangerous.
this is the type of situation you have a chat abt w ur friends and move on. the internet holds ppl more accountable for trivial shit than actual serious crimes. his behaviour is kinda shitty and at most that should be called out by someone who matches w him. How do these ppl not realise that their behaviour is levels worse than anything he has done??
edit: just got to the part of the unsolicited pics and that is more than kinda shitty I don't want ppl to think I'm downplaying that. as casey pointed out though this hate mob doesn't really care about the details they just see it as a tiktok trend to hop on for a week then forget about. This whole situation could have been a conversation around this type of shitty behaviour that's a result of dating apps and how men think it's okay to send women pictures like that. It would have been a productive discourse but it's tiktok so ofc not.
The way people were posting about it I thought this man did something heinous. When I actually saw a video explaining what was going on I was…confused. So he was ghosting y’all? That’s what this is about?? Something that so many people do??? What made them zero in on this one specific guy???? Yeah, he’s a douche, but to really do all that over ghosting is just ridiculous.
Okay so some guy on dating apps did what EVERYONE else does and what dating apps are made for: talking to multiple people and stopping when he doesn't find a connection. And then he got harassed on every platform he's on, and Tiktok blew up and showed off how stupid they were by using INPORTANT wording completely wrong and falsely accusing this guy of horrible shit.
These girls are nuts like...was he kind of a jerk and shouldn’t have ghosted so much? Probably...but doxing him and acting as if he murdered their family’s is just so outta line that their isn’t a line anymore. They saw a movie like “John tucker must die” and thought...nah this is fine to do in real life because they don’t know how to react normally to things and then got a bunch of women who have trauma to spread it farther and project their trauma on this random dude. Ugh 😑
i feel like it's definitely not lovebombing, because lovebombing and other abuse tactics are about making people susceptible to control right? and ghosting's not very nice but you obviously can't try and control someone you've stopped all contact with
i agree with casey in that i thought this was fairly standard dating app behaviour. i thought it was generally understood that most people talk to a large amount of people at once to try and find someone right for them, and that ghosting was kind of a necessary evil. many if not most people of all genders struggle with trying to tell someone you're not interested anymore and it sucks but it doesn't make them abusive
Honestly I bet half of these people haven't had any experience with 'Caleb' and just made stuff up to be part of the cool 'trend' on tiktok.
One of the original girls literally said add him “to my Arsenal”, she probaly acts the same as him she just didn’t like the shoe being on the other foot
This just proves that social media is so new and we don't know how to handle it/behave appropriately on it.
casey: i’m very late to the discourse on this
me, who never heard about this before: yeah
You captured my thoughts and feelings perfectly in this. The Internet is so odd sometimes
This is exactly how I felt about the couch guy that was trending a while ago
If their energy could be moved towards believing survivors of ab*se and standing up for actual justice, that’d be most appreciated thank you
"You should be able to review people's profiles on dating apps"
Yes, because we all know how people are the most fair and logical when it comes to relationships.
He just used Dating site like most people do, people trying to get him fired and dig up his Information is disturbing.
These are adults, can they get a grip.
these girls are going crazy wtf???
it’s terrifying to see how 5 seconds of fame can break apart someone’s morality and sense of reason. no matter the actions, i hope the guy’s mental health doesn’t take the obvious blows it could in this situation, though it feels like that’s inevitable
I don’t think west elm Caleb’s behavior should be normalized but I also think that Tik Tok users had no right to do 90% of what they did/said
DID THEY GENUINELY GIRLBOSS DOXXING😭
Saw a TikTok of a girl who asked her audience if she should post an explicit picture of her bf cheating on her, almost everyone in the comments was begging for the release of that picture, like excuse me that‘s basically revenge porn?!
Thats no lovebombing, thats dating. Like nobody owes you time or attention. Yeah ghosting is shitty, but it isn't the end of the world. Hes seems like a f-boy, but not some master manipulator.
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Am I the only one who thinks the only reason most of these women considered this man’s initial texting behavior (not the dick pics) as “love bombing” is because we have such low expectations of men on dating apps? Like, it sounds like he was just texting most of them a lot?
thisss!! he put a bunch of songs in a list, that´s not the big gesture everyone makes it out to be
I'm so glad Casey pointed out that TikTok made "love bombing" into something it's not. I feel bad for people seeing this trend who have actually been in abusive relationships and experience real love bombing
The way Casey glows in every video
Wait…THATs what Westelmcaleb is? I thought it was some roleplay thing and naturally ignored it 😭
ROLEPLAY HELFPEKFNEKD
Riiight i thought it was a joke
Finally! I've heard this man's name and had no idea what the deal was
Oh geez. This might not be lovebombing but it does seem like gangstalking. Leave this guy alone.
i know ACTUAL psychologists are ripping their hair out with this one
I 100% agree with you. It's f'd up. Like, no matter why someone would ghost you is their choice. It's sucks and we shouldn't do it but, sometimes, we can't do otherwise.
He’s not even a villain??? He’s just some guy who’s kinda annoying on dating apps? As far as I know I don’t think he’s hurt anyone
There’s thousands of people like ruining the life of this random dude and for what
(Also the idea of making a NFT of someone’s actual face without their consent is so creepy and gross)
Edit: oh the d*ck picks is gross and wrong but still doesn’t justify DOXXING good lord
He didn’t even do anything. Could result in a defamation lawsuit.
I feel like he could do something with the words “slander” “libel” and “defamation” if he’s in a tight spot for money…😂😂
I enjoy the free way you’re talking here! Feels more natural than your other channel somehow, and it’s good!
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They’re speaking about him as if they think they’re entitled to a relationship with him without him having a say….. no your not
embarrising, imagine getting ghosted and creating a hate mob. cringe.
I really appreciate your commentary on this, I wonder when it's going to click for people that this kind of online behaviour is weird and harmful
this feels like the same thing with the couch guy thing, people analyzed a tiktok for each pixel to prove a guy was cheating and sent a hate mob after him. And even after the girl they were trying to “help” as she disclosed how uncomfortable this was to her
Yaaaaay im so happy you posted! Perfect timing! the perfect, calm break to my chaotic day 🙌
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Thanks for the video! Your voice is so calming.
Makes me so happy I’m married and don’t have to deal with dating nowadays. Can you imagine you go on a date, it not working out, and by the afternoon your place of work is doxxed and you’re getting death threats?
This reminds me of when a tiktoker had thousands of people calling this one specific Buffalo Wild Wings and bothering them so much that they unhooked their phone. So many people thought it was funny in the comments when really they were just bothering people who were working in the food service industry during a pandemic.
The review section for dating apps reminds me of that Always Sunny episode where there's a rate your date site and Dennis has the meltdown saying "I'm a 5 star man!"
This was a great review on the situation. But imagine of roles were reversed the guy would be immediately called up on for harassment and probably even fired from his job. This is so sad. I hope he is okay
okay i was not ready for the stereotype inst at the end
excellent video, you described all my thoughts on this perfectly
I thought this was a tiktok joke that is WILD!
I've had soooo many nice conversations with people on dating apps who then ghosted me or got ghosted by me. It happens, like if we only chatted a bit I don't think I need to like "break up" with them, we never even met!! Maybe that's dick but things just fade sometimes. Talking to someone is not a commitment to date them or anything, even if its flirty
i’m now scared i’m going to go viral for not responding to someone on tinder
AHHHHHH CASEY YOUR OUTRO IIMFGGG
This is insane as a lesbian to me because it happens to all of us frequently. The ghosting and “love bombing” which isn’t really love bombing. It’s just normal.