Let’s Talk This Out: West Elm Caleb | The Daily Show
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- West Elm Caleb is horrible at dating, but did he deserve to have his address and phone number leaked online? Probably not. Let’s talk this out. #DailyShow
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Oh, so that's what that story's about. Yeah, I agree with Trevor. It's okay to share your rejection story on social media, but putting that person's identity on blast for that was not it 👎
I think there is a place for doxxing bad dates, but it should be reserved for worse offenses than ghosting, say, date rapists domestic violence perps and real abusers.
@@constitutionalcarrot3720 Wrong approach again. How are you gonna differentiate b/w real allegations and B.S.?
@@adityashandilya2789 It’s not my job to teach you everything I learned in law school and in my years practicing law with respect to standards of proof, burdens and weight of evidence, suffice it to say there is a way to reach a level of certainty society can be comfortable with.
@@adityashandilya2789 In my thoughts, if you had an encounter who made or engaged in active threat of physical violence you should be calling the cops first.
@@constitutionalcarrot3720 if that women truly has sufficient evidence she'd approach the cops instead of posting it online.
I gotta say, when Trevor Noah first took over the Daily Show I was slightly skeptical, but he has truly become one of the greats...impeccable timing, witty, thoughtful. Seems like an amazing person. We are all lucky to have him on this planet
Why were you skeptical?
@@kurisu3000 idk about them but I was definitely skeptical only when I first heard about Jon Stewart leaving cause honestly I grew up watching him as a kid when he took over Craig. I just couldn't picture anyone being able to be on par or better.
But after reading Jon personally chose him & then watched his correspondence clips I wasn't skeptical, though I have to say Trevor surpasses Jon on some points
@@kurisu3000 I too was skeptical about Trevor at first, as I rly had no idea who he was until he took over the Daily Show. His presentation, professionalism, and humor/stand up won me over pretty quickly though. Jon made the right call 10/10 would recommend.
@@kurisu3000 yes as others have said, it's because i was SUCH a huge Jon Stewart fan at the time...it must've been what Letterman fans felt like when Conan took over. seemed impossible that someone could fill those shoes, and of course that was indeed the case...in both instances, the newcomers created their own shoes instead of trying to fill the old ones :)
No one asked u to be skeptical. Do u think no one is skeptical about how u look???
“Rejection is not abuse.” Yep.
So many then call those men narcissists. Selfish and unkind is not narcissism
Selfish and unkind is literally a description of narcissistic people’s behavior.
@@ChristinQuander but on it's own, even with that definition, it is not clinically narcissism
Rejection hurts so bad.
@@ChristinQuander no, narcissism is a lack of empathy about everything. It is a clinical definition of which only 15% of the population has. Not everyone who had a not so great ex. Please stop using phrases without knowing what they meab
As a Caleb, I’ll be the first to admit that we’re indeed quite terrible at dating. And most of us don’t deserve to die, contrary to popular belief.
🤣
Caleb Lives Matter 😂😂😂
stop sending those pics
LOL!
@@clementmwanza5150 exactly CLM
I agree Trevor! We have a right to our own feelings! Let's not attack, let's grow and live.
Completely wrong to post someone’s address, phone # or where they work. If the date is behaving (legally) inappropriately, then report it to the authorities. Also, maybe Caleb just didn’t want to talk to you anymore lady.
Exactly , you forfeited the right to say “I didn’t want anything bad to happen to him” when you post all this mans private information and his picture for the world to see..No ma’am, you wanted this to happen. Look Ladies sometimes we just gotta take the L and on to the next one it is 💃🏻
just shows the level on immaturity of some ppl who post your dates personal info. I would assume this would make it more difficult for this woman to date someone seeing how she puts out her dates personal info.
@@brina6680 And what if something horrible does happen to him from this? Could she be brought up on charges?
No he manipulated women into sleeping with him THEN DUMPED THEM! In the video the girl, WHEN SHE FOUND OUT, SHE stopped talking to HIM! SHE was just pointing out how HE DUMPED OTHER WOMEN!
She was doing a PUBLIC SERVICE AS TO WARN OTHER WOMEN ABOUT HIM!!!!!
@@taylorwaterman7316 Too many words for "I would've done the same"
She wasn't "telling a funny story online." Maybe in the beginning, but by the time she doxed Caleb, she was very bitter, very vindictive, and very prepared to defend what she knew was a very messed up thing to do. Some people on social media know exactly what they are doing.
Umm no I don't see it that way, to me she was more WARNING other women about him. Even if she was 'bitter/vindictive' she had EVERY RIGHT TO BE. This is a man that is sleeping with one woman and going on a first date with another THE SAME DAY. She could have caught covid and DIED not to mention std's/sti's. YOU'D BE MAD TOO! She is TOTALLY JUSTIFIED IN WHAT SHE DID.
@@taylorwaterman7316 What's wrong with that???
People have non exclusive relationships all the time and sometimes go on dates with other people.
One of the ladies claimed she was going to do the same thing to him, he beat her to the punch and she got mad
@@taylorwaterman7316
I thought most people were doing that. I thought it was common sense to have a conversation and use protection. I guess that's too much to expect nowadays.
Someone dumping you, ghosting you, just not liking you...that is not abuse. You need to take a long hard look at your own mental health and well-being and possibly get someone to talk to. Also, stop attacking people online people.
If they had someone to talk to, they wouldn’t be posting.
So true, and if someone IS abusive, look for support, don't go attacking the person who is leaving you alone. It won't help and could be dangerous. Also attacking someone for "leaving you alone", can be abusive, don't become a hurt person who hurts others. ❤
Rejecting those women was the best decision that guy made. Those ladies aren't hooked up right. Psychostalkers. Someone should dedicate a website to them and contact their workplace. Shame!
You have to look at it from both sides tho. Of course his life shouldn’t have been ruined because of this. But if you look deeper, the issue is ghosting. It’s horrible and shouldn’t be normalized.
@@victorious3d964 maybe you should just grow up and learn how to handle rejection. Welcome to adulthood. Its ratchet af. Get over it.
Doxing someone is plain wrong. It's revenge, not justice.
...justice is about revenge, though. You did someone wrong, therefore punishment. I agree that doxxing is bad, but this is not a great take.
@@RHCole congrats, this is probably the worst take I've ever seen. You win.
@@leoseling4413 Explain exactly how justice isn't punitive. Go ahead, I'll wait.
@@RHCole I'm not saying it's not. Punishment just isn't the same as revenge. Like, imagine if someone was mudered. Revenge would be if the victim's mother then murdered the murderer. Justice would be if the murderer was judged fairly in a court of law and then punished according to the law and a judge. Both scenarios are punishments, but neither the judge nor the law have a personal vendetta against the murderer. It is therefore not revenge.
@@leoseling4413 I disagree. Every law is about getting back at someone who wronged someone else. It's all revenge.
6:37 "The fact that you're in a relationship with someone is because other people have rejected them or rejected you. That's the only reason we get there". That stings, but it is beautifully honest.
Facts!
The story truly amplifies how petty the culture can be.
Can be, or is on an everyday basis?
& how bitter some women are!
Petty is an excellent word for it. Immaturity is a factor as well, having to go into full-on whine online to try and get someone that hurt your feelings in trouble.
Define "the culture"
@@XiBMCiX TikTok culture
I saw one of my absolute closest friends going like 20 years back lose his dreamjob for a similar reason.. he wasn't being harmful to anyone, even though he did something i don't fully agree on, but he also told me something about the reasons for it.. i had never seen a human so destroyed, and 4 years later this incident still haunts him when he's looking for a job.. thank you for bringing up this side of these lynchings.
is 'Let's Talk This Out' a new segment? 'cause that was pretty great. thank you Trevor and Team Daily Show!
love you guys.❤
Love how there is always a message amongst the humour. Always giving a new perspective. 💗
Is this a new perspective or common sense???
@@odizza1688 sadly common sense isn’t common. Especially on the internet.
@AP Who cares about Hunter Biden? Is he an elected official and we all missed the memo? Stay on topic.🤦
The fact this needs to be explained is sad. 🤦🏼
Yeah saw one of those videos where the lady said they were "dating" and in the same breath* say they only went on one date. Granted she could have misspoke but if not, I'm pretty sure that one date doesn't mean you're dating, that's like testing the waters.
Was it one? Hows that even ghosting, we cant run for our lives anymore?
@@lostpony4885 It's what she said. There's some wild takes on this. The dating part gave me concern. That's a lot to dump on someone after one date without having the other person's view. Clearly to him it didn't work out but she was fully committed to a relationship to him somehow without meeting him once or after the one date.
Also hello to another Lost 😁
@@LostPursuer hello there Lost!
* breath, sorry
@@LostPursuer back in the day, a date was just a date. now with texting, you almost have the same feelings as a relationship before you even meet the person. Technology has blurred the lines.
Trevor’s passion for his argument is great to see in action. This is how conversation should be. Regarding Caleb and social media stories, I ask, Why take a fake problem from a fake world and waste your time taking it seriously? Go live!
People should assume when they're casually dating, that can include seeing other people. If not ok with that use your words, not the internet. Dating is about meeting & getting to know new people, not comment. No one likes to get ghosted, lied to, lead on, or enjoys rejection. One of the women that made a video began with; adding him to her "arsenal", yet had an issue that he was dating other people.
Make it make sense.
I'll add, as someone with the degrees to back it up; people incorrectly using psych terms in this context are ill informed & dangerous.
Maybe, West Elm Caleb should sue.
All of them are morally void users. They just get mad when the tables get turned on them. No sympathy for any of them.
This is the most sane discussion i have seen today on internet.. thank you
I love Trevor so much. I'd argue these segments are even better than the news highlights
I agree! I love how he's just having a conversation with the audience.
Posting the dude's picture and info online I'm pretty sure is a felony here in California.
No expectation of privacy if you send the picture/information to someone unsolicited. Great job though accusing a person of a felony with 0 knowledge of law. Point of the video went completely over your head, which is apparently a very low bar.
It happened in New York City.
@@KrakenIsland64 why are you so angry?
@@KrakenIsland64 someone got rejected by Caleb it seems.
This woman posted his face and everything!? This is nuts! I can't believe how crazy these TikTok people get. I never heard of this until now. I use social media but not TikTok. Bad date = Move on
Yep, apparently lots of NYC girls celebrated when he got fired and disappeared. One girl was like “I united all the girls of NYC!”, unbelievable actually.
Dont narrow it to a TikTok thing just because you don't like the app. Similar Things like this have happened on Twitter, and what's app. Generally any platform that facilitates the quick spread of information while providing a medium for group communication.
It's a social media phenomenon that exemplifies the nature of western culture (mostly) right now.
@@kamu747 well that's what I meant. I didn't mean just TikTok.
@@joy-115 Oh, Ok.
I love, love the real talk. Love it.
People should grow up, realize the world doesn't revolve around them (you), and practice some gratitude and smile more.
I agree with Trevor. Social media algorithm is very dangerous.
AI called artificial intelligence anything artificial is dangerous
This stuff needs to be open source
Rejection is healthy.
Ghosting is not.
Exactly
ghosting is equally as healthy
holding somebody accountable for rejection is not
@@bennypika4976 for me, ghosting implies dishonesty.
@@HoneyBadger80886 you clearly hadn't deal with manipulative people yet
they'll just waste your time cattle drive you to say it their way even if it's wrong
These women are Karen, they boast about adding guys to their list, but now that the player is being played by this guy, they are butthurt. Getting taste of their own medicine.
He should take legal action as he is getting deth threats and his location is exposed too. He will win this case, easy pay day. And teach such entitled trash some lessons.
"Life's all about rejection".Lets face it we've all been rejected at one time or the other.
Multiple rejections for me 😂
Very well said Trevor. I hope people really listen to this. It has gotten crazy with people wanting to get even or revenge on line but they are destroying people's lives as if its not ok to make mistakes or be rejected. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom
I think this video adresses this in the best way I've seen so far.
I do have to say that ghosting can be a particularly mean and cowardly form of rejection. At least have the galls to tell someone outright.
Ghosting and cheating is not a crime but doxixng and wanting harm on someone is a crime.
Yep, the people equating rejection with abuse are the ones that got "participation prizes" when they were kids. In life, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Actually, most times you lose, that is what makes winning so special.
This comment is where "ok boomer" comes from. We didn't buy those trophies ourselves, didn't ask for or even want them. Kinda sad that in 2022 there is still someone clinging to that pathetic talking point that does not in fact make millennials look bad, but instead makes the snowflake boomer parents look bad. I remember that time period, it was the parents yelling and screaming at coaches about how little Johnny was better than the other trash kids and deserved to be recognized. We hated it and now laugh at how soft that generation is.
@@grimlicentia right?? Thank you.. This story was wack but it has nothing to do with the participation trophies we didn't ask for lol. I always felt insulted if I got one.
Love when he gets on his soap box. I don't do podcast but, Trevor. Trevor I'd listen to.
OHHH SNAP! Thank you Trevor, as always you summed that up so accurately and that's the problem with social media, it gives every "scorned" man or woman a platform to "not think" out loud! and that's just sad.
The rule I adhere to (and sometimes fail at) on the internet is to type as I would talk. I will only attack obvious monsters and terrible hot takes, so basically most of Tucker and his content.
Those girls warned other ladies about a serial ghoster. Sisterhood before misterhood.
no, those girls are just bigot men who thought they were such hoot
No they wanted to harm him by doxxing and expecting someone will attack him.
Rejection is different than manipulations tactics just as much as love manufactured lies is different from honesty.
To the weak. Maybe? I cant get there because im emotionally mature enough to mind my own business.
The Reality Check the world needs now. Thanks Trevor 🎯
I love when you just rift. Natural story teller.
Riff*
This is not fair for him, now everything is messed up for him i bet and he's gonna remember this for the rest of his life. Poor Caleb
Probably some sociopath. Don’t know what all the pity is about.
@@sylviaplath8263 The real sociopaths were the women giving him death threats
Rejecting someone isn't abuse but doxing someone sure is.
Please note that privacy and discretion seem to be a big joke to many people and it is very sad.
I find the world is a worse off with social media, cowards behind keyboards saying whatever they want, bullying and hatred. People irl have forgotten how to be human. Constant outrage and fury is exhausting.
Life is about getting rejected. Thank you for your smart words.
I agree with this completely. Someone in Chicago tried to leverage this to go through a list of men in Chicago who have been bad to date, and I’m not okay with that. I do think people who are dating online should be more communicative and considerate, but dragging people publicly is plain nasty.
Thank you Trevor! for acknowledging the gray in the polarized black and white society we live in.
Excellent!!
The world is burning and folks are going after bad dates!!
Not as many people are in therapy as you might think!
The problem is that many people go to therapy with the mindset that the therapist will fix all their problems and that many therapists are incompetent idiots who only have the intention to squeeze as much money as possible out of their clients.
@@hanshandkante5055 Perhaps.
Fortunately, I’ve had great therapists. And know there are some bad ones out there!!!
@@hanshandkante5055 true also therapy is not for everyone
Could care less about Caleb, but this coverage and critique is on point.
I got ghosted by women from time to time never would I have done something like this
Wow the hypocrisy is astonishing 😂
Not on TikTok but as you tell it, I agree with you Trevor...it sounds like the girl behaved worse than what the guy did. C’mon people, be kind!
Get Caleb on your show. Do an interview and let him share his side of the story. 😂
Maybe the guy just wants to be left alone.
Right on!!!
No. Just leave the dude alone
He ghosted someone then became a ghost
What you said was so important and well phrased!! Thanks
LoveBombing isn’t about getting bored it’s about getting your hooks into a person to get power over them and the abuse usually follows.
Too true.
Yup. It's a manipulation tactic. Trevor is really off base here.
Detection of such things requires understanding of intention. Unless you're an experienced psychologist or detective, you're just assuming the other person is LoveBombing you. Take half the responsibility of a failed relationship and move on.
@@kb-jt2zm caleb didn't love bomb anyone
I don't get how people are falling for someone promising all this nice cool stuff, like how do you believe just some words.
And like if the person is 'love bombing' with buying all that stuff aka "showering with gifts" you'd definitely be thinking about their affordability and their end game. Both reasons to be skeptical.
Like you'd have to be intentionally ignoring the flags whatever colour they turn about to be and not be question it and while for some people especially very young people this is a possibility, those in the dating game for a while should be able to notice parts of it at least.
Why do people get so involved in other peoples lives??
emotional manipulation has become the most popular form of "social justice".
no one is ever supposed to say no to you, or have a different opinion than you do.
no one is allowed to be "mean" to you or make you feel "bad".
problem is, there are too many people, each with their own perspective and agenda, to make anyone's life conflict free, unless you totally isolate yourself from the world.
this is an extreme form of selfishness that shows no sign of ending any time soon. 😔
"Ask yourself if that's what you would want strangers doing to you."
I would not want a stranger to ghost me - just tell me you're not interested
I'm not surprised. Social media, love triangles, plus a guy named Caleb.
I’m with Trevor.
And they say men can't handle rejection 🤷🏾♂️.
Stories/roasting are fine but names, pictures, and screenshots of conversations or anything that could help identify the person 100% cross the line.
The fire truck story is a great analogy. It describes perfectly how men treat women a lot of the times: like a toy. An object that can be discarded.
Yep. It’s sad that that’s not how Trevor meant it.
@@Fincayra15 Thank you for your thoughts. I appreciate it. Saw your comment about 'boys' and 'women'. Very much on point. And I love Trevor Noah, but I don't have to explain that. I know you get it.
@@LisaTothestars yes, I do 💛
Thank you. People learn new terminology and start overusing it, watering it down for real situations those terms actually pertain to.
Real Talk Trevor. Applause for explaining it in terms that are easy to understand, and get behind.
Some people really misuse terms like love bombing and gaslighting.
"Rejection is not abuse"
Rejection should not be abuse like how criticism should not be abuse but most criticism is destructive criticism from a motivation of contempt.
It could be abuse, it depends greatly on how we reject people. There is a massive amount of destructive criticism used to reject people in our dating community these days.
Simple, cookie-cutter advice like this is very toxic.
If people actually believe that all rejection is never abuse or will cause massive harm as people that live to give destructive criticism an area where they have no accountability. If rejection is NEVER abuse then when they reject someone they will be as horrible as they want to.
Is someone gives empathetic and respectful rejection, then there is no abuse. They should be as accurate as possible to help the person understand why they think they are not a great fit.
Trevor sympathizes because he IS a West Elm Caleb. lol
Dope!
His candid conversation is refreshing.
He should do more ‘deep thoughts’, have the guest be prepared to talk about various social subjects and get down to the nuts and bolts of what makes things our society “tick”.
Speak it, Trevuuuuuuhh
Thank you so much for this and I’m so glad you’re back!!!!
Trevor, I love your! I really like your insights and drawn out explanations.
And THIS is why I love Trevor ❤! Truth, generosity, and common sense spoken everyday 👏 👏
I hope West Elm Caleb watched this.
You don't know how bad getting ghosted is until your fiancé moves to Miami overnight without telling you
Sensationalism, distraction, and avoidance of accountability
All I know is that if ghosting is a crime on dating apps after only a date or two then I'm a world class felon
Yeah. Really odd that the ghosting thing was so emphasized. Not to make it about genders, but as a man you get ghosted by a dozen women on these dating apps before you even get the chance to meet someone. You'd think people would be used to that by now. Really goes to show how entitled this mob is.
I agree with you 100%! It seems like we’re moving into this realm of trying to control peoples feelings. They’re okay with it until it happens to them.
Sometimes ghosting can be from people dealing with trauma. Not everyone ghosting is doing it on purpose
Bruh don't go out seeking a relationship if you're facing trauma problems. You're just wasting someone else's time
oooooh Trevor... thin ice buddy... props to you for calling out this societal BS, but still... 😬
Man, in 2022, Trevor Noah just re-invented "Between The Scenes"!
What he did was wrong, but what the women did was significantly worse.
he didn't do anything wrong, this women was just living up the outdated toxic culture
A fire truck isn’t a person.
Great take!
Basically if it is not your business don't meddle in it. The Midwest understands this well.
wow this is really refreshing to hear from a major voice in the public
The ppl saying that this was gaslighting, absolutely invalidated true abuse and true gaslighting.
That was terrible.
Yes, exactly! Thank you for talking about this.
1) cancel culture is real; it just doesn’t work on people with power
2) maybe he ghosted them because he thought they were the type of person who would doxx their exes??
3) ironically hope this teaches people not to ghost bc sheeeeesh
Trevor: I love this.
Personally I absolutely have not a clue, as to who, this literal story, has to be, but honestly, as a totality -- I get it.
Dude,I f *ckin get it.
And I thank u for having this conversation 🌟
People have too much time on their hands, and heart in wrong places....
This is what happens when everyone wants to be a keyboard warrior...🤦♀️
It is insanity
Well said trevor!
1. Don't date Trevor. 2. Doxing is wrong. 3. Social media algorithms are bad. Bring back the reverse chronological list!
You go man.. you go.. more power to you 💪
I totally agree. Bad dates are normal. getting a mob together to ruin a persons life, because she was rejected
Poor dude was just doing what all these girls have been doing to countless men of color or short stature. He is making them pay reparations. Caleb is a hero.
Girls reacts likes that and wonders why she was ghosted 🤷♀️
Lol great job today Trevor😂
*Not all rejection is abuse! People have a right to reject you, Ghosting is not as bad as you're making it*
Yes! YES!
Trevor I hope you weather the outrage machine storm when the people in it see you critique their overreactions.