Dragon Ball Super Super Hero SPOILERS REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2022
- Dragon Ball Super Super Hero FULL Movie Spoilers Review discussing EVERYTHING about the film including Final Gohan vs Cell Max, Orange Piccolo vs Cell Max, Gohan and Piccolo vs Gamma 1 and Gamma 2, the plot, the backstory, and much more!
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I feel like Gohan future development should be Earth’s protector while Goku and Vegeta go off into the multiverse.
And broly
Fax and train 24/7
Same it would make so much sense and would be so cool for Gohan and piccolo to be protector of the earth
Agreed my friend
i would like this
I think the “Thanos snap” death of Gamma 2 was more akin to Vegeta’s death in the Buu saga. Both deaths involve the characters using all of their energy in a single blast in an attempt to save others at the cost of their own lives. Vegeta also turned to dust however he just fell to the ground and crumbled as opposed to Gamma who blew away in the wind.
Obviously it looks like the Thanos snap scene but I don’t believe they just copied it from the MCU and called it a day since there is evidence for something like this happening already within the Dragon Ball universe
All I could think of is how Endgame copied the time travel from Dragon Ball Super right down to the question trunks/Ant-Man asks so future trunks/hulk can explain it. It felt so on the nose in the theater that I thought it was them winking and nodding to the audience about it, but apparently nobody else ever made the connection.
Sometimes the conection is non existant or just exists in peoples heads.
valhala dust like in thor
I actually laughed when that happened. No way they didnt know what they were doing. It was literally the meme with spiderman
There are many old manga and anime where body shreds away. Some people think if it's well known that they are the first who did it and others are copying it. I do not think it's rhe MCU influence.
I love what they did with Piccolo. I read somewhere that the symbol on his back represents the trees that grow on Namek and his potential is unlocked from his Namekian pride. Gohan may have landed the final blow but Piccolo was the real MVP. Pan has 3 Grandpas, and Piccolo is the best one.
Piccolo was the most important but not MVP. That is Final Gohan.
Nah, they ruined the Dragon Ball lore by giving piccolo his transformation through Shenron. It creates a plot hole
@@prettyboyg1278 it doesn't really in the sense that Dende could have done the same if he was older and had the ability himself.
@@jaberd100 Shenron gave him a bonus because he was his creator.
Piccolo overrated
I must admit I was a little worried they were going to give more shine and screen time to Gohan over Piccolo even though they stated both of them were the main characters. They definitely did Piccolo justice here. I have no complaints. He had more screen time than Gohan and definitely was a MAJOR key in this movie. Great Movie
Well I was worried Goku and Vegeta would show up and take over. As long as it was neither of them it's a win to me. Gohan is my favorite character but I do love piccolo as well so it's just good to see both of them getting the Job done without those 2. They both deserved this movie.
@@derekosgood3230 true it was dope actually seeing them get the job done without them. They truly did deserve this film, especially being sidelined for too long. I wonder where Gohan and Piccolo will go from here
@@realgrim6239 hopefully they continue to utilize them. I want them to bring all of the old school characters back to the spotlight. Find ways to at least incorporate them back into the story. That's one of the biggest issues I have with Super. I'm fatigued on Goku and Vegeta lol
As someone who didn't hear this I walked away whole heartedly thinking this was piccolo and pan's movie.
One interesting thing I noticed: Gohan vs Cell was the only time SSJ2 Hair ever grew.
Makes it feel like there was another power in there, whatever power Gohan drew out in Ultimate to become Final Gohan.
Bojack unbound
@@Ty-zd9pz Toriyama considers the DBS films a sequel to his manga, not a sequel to the other films
Perhaps there's a form beyond Final Gohan
i like to consider it his true ultimate form not his final form because to say its "final gohan" it means he cant get more powerful, he cant evolve himself. which means that hes done. personally its more than likely his true ultimate form, and the power hes been tapping into for his original ultimate form is just a small spec of his power like what piccolo had said in super.
@@futuredirector23 Final form doesn't mean he can't get stronger
Maybe the reasoning behind the transformation is just the natural progression of gohan ultimate form. With his base potential being unlocked he only needs the right conditions for his form to be what ever is necessary to defeat his opponent. Now the real question is will this gohan put hands on goku and vegeta?
i have a theory about that.
@@Geekdom101 which is? I’m curious 🤨
Idk if this sounds dumb but could it possibly be dbs’s version of ssj4?
@@Takingback816 That does sound dumb. If anything, it would be Broly who would achieve SSJ4 (or whatever they’ll come up with)
Akira released a statement gohan is actually stronger than anyone. He just hadn't really gotten the chance to shine.
I think gohan said he was the strongest because of his daughter saying it earlier . He wanted her to feel protected
It’s funny to me how Geekdom is talking about Gohan’s line about him not being sure if Goku and Vegeta could have handled Cell-M, as if Gohan is a real person with real thoughts lmao. ”Gohan doesn’t have any idea about the training Vegeta and Goku are doing”
Toriyama said that Gohan is the strongest.
@Fenrir there's an interview recently, Geekdom had a video to talk about the interview
@@beliasgigas5974 no, remember the full statement, " Gohan is the strongest fighter around, or so they say",,, do not forget the second half of the statement Toriyama made
@@grydon6422 ITS REAL TO ME!
I enjoyed how much screen time Piccolo got, seeing him use a telephone and how he holds it and all those stuffed animals in his house man getting a deeper dive into him was nice plus those new forms where nice. I just didn't really see the point of Cellmax though I'd like them to just come up with an original villian or maybe just not a mindless cellmax
How you saw it?
@@enigmaoftheechidna6279 you are the feds
@@enigmaoftheechidna6279 it shows up on RUclips once a day you have to catch it.
Piccolo most likely doesn't need the phone closed based on his super hearing which makes sense and I like that.
@@tejadahada420 faxx lmao
With Piccolo calling out Bulma for abusing the Dragonballs and them upgrading Shenron, do you think that it's possible they're setting up a retelling/reversion of the Shadow Dragon arc from GT? There are a lot of little pieces lately that makes me think of it
That would be kool
That's what I was thinking
Making gt Canon.....
God I hope not
No. I don't want canon anywhere near GT.
I think pan flying as a baby is kinda like how some baby animals can’t control their strength/venom until their older.
@@HistoryandReviews thanks dad
History and Reviews can’t control they are strength/venom
Uh huh
My main hope for Gohan and Piccolo is that they can start to be more integrated into the Goku/Vegeta stuff in the series from now on. The Granolah arc is showing how thin that narrative is getting and I think getting Gohan and Piccolo joining in on that stuff could shake things up in a fun way along with continuing their arcs. Or at least cut to their adventures on Earth training up the younger kids and stuff because believe it or not people give a shit about these characters.
Cell Max fight took some cues from Batman v Superman. Cell was Doomsday-Losing the arm to being a rage monster. Piccolo was Wonder Woman-Lassoing Cell with the arms to hold him down. Gohan Superman- Getting the kill shot.
For some reason the Goku vs Vegeta fight reminded me of the end of Rocky 3. The Apollo rematch.
GOOD CATCH!
Man rocky 3 had mr T
Cell Max shooting purple lasers out of his tail, and every spot on his body, was straight out of SHIN GODZILLA.
Don't compare this masterpiece to that trash heap of a movie lmao
I loved Cell Max! It was a really cool seeing Cell in a sort of “zombie” state, and him being being semi-perfect and not perfect was a very clever choice which I really enjoyed. The red color on him I feel like may have been a reference to him being more intertwined with the Red Ribbon Army, too. I went into the movie blind as to what he would look like, so it was a really big surprise and I thought it was awesome.
I mean they've been saying the entire series that Gohan has greater potential than everyone else....so it's not like it's coming out of nowhere. He's never even needed to train as hard as the others to catch up and surpass them. Think about it. Goku couldn't land any damage on Raditz yet baby Gohan got mad and cracked his shit good. He fought with Freeza as a child and landed damaging blows on him while the others were struggling with him not even in his final form. Goes into the time chamber with Goku and surpasses him for a brief moment and Goku sees his actual power and realizes again (because he already realized it much earlier) that Gohan is stronger than all of them but can't consciously access it yet. Goes SS2 against Cell and needs literally no effort at all to obliterate him despite Goku struggling enormously, cell regenerates and gets his boost that makes his perfect form closer to Gohans level and Gohan still drops him with a Kamehameha that he fired off with one fucking hand. He slacks off after that so by the time the Buu saga rolls in he's actually weaker than Goku and Vegeta....but after training for what...a few days? He's surpassed Vegeta and is likely even stronger than Gokus SS3 form at that point. Then Super rolls out and Gohan is way behind the two full Saiyans as he is focused on regular work and marriage life since he doesn't like fighting like they do. He still can't really pose a threat to Freeza, as he's already achieved a golden form and boosted his own base power immensely. Trains a little bit and is able to win against an opponent from another universe while being blind and weakened from poison. The ToP is approaching and Gohan had trained a little bit and was able to keep pace with Blue Goku (albeit likely not going full out) and pushed him into going full power for the final attack in their sparring match. Gets to the ToP and is clearly the third most powerful fighter for universe 7, even being more powerful than Freeza. All of this while not training much, basically only doing it when he had to.
His speed, power, and potential growth has always been much faster than the others. Being able to close the gaps and even surpass them within weeks despite not training for years.
He's just always been kind of broken in that way. Think of it like those kids in school, you had to have known at least one growing up...the kids that don't study or even lay attention in class yet ace every test, it just comes easy to them. It's like that but with Gohan its power and fighting ability.
Very well said!
This is one of the best takes on Gohan I've ever seen fr.
felt hella cheap, underserved and out of context, not to mention it looks lame. Dragon Ball cant keep burping out forms. The problem with ur theory ios you cant make an enjoyable character arc with it. Who wants to watch that? The movie completely fell apart during the last half hour
Very well explained!
Gohan also said before ToP that he wanted to get stronger and achieve a even greater strength through his own means so i don’t feel like this form came out of nowhere they already hinted at him eventually getting his own unique power up
I was more happy than anything to see all the callbacks. They actually remembered all the characters powers. And let’s be real Piccolo needed a new form. And Gohans has been promised to us and not delivered since the Tournament of Power.
I love how Pan is growing up much better i also loved how Piccolo adores Pan.
The dragon didn't make Piccolo more powerful, it just unlocked his potential. Same deal that Krilin and Gohan got in Namek.
I would have preferred Perfect Cell coming back, but I give them points for doing something a little different with Cell Max.
I mean its just bio-broly with a cell skin sadly
Yeah I was disappointed when I found out it wasn’t the real Cell as well
I wish they didn't have him looking like Semi-Perfect Cell.
@@hyperkaioken4982 I was thinking the same thing. Cell max is very forgettable
I was hoping they would give cell a rebirth like they gave cooler. Metal cooler was bad ass.
Cell was an iconic villain for DBZ and they dropped the ball with cell max.
Gohan did say that his goal is an ultimate form no one has ever seen before. Gohan achieve his goal by rage
Nah don’t tell geekdom that. Let him be upset that he doesn’t understand something about DB. He’s obsessed with knowing things before everyone. We wouldn’t want to upset him by telling him he’s wrong.
@@mug281 yeah I don’t agree w geekdom on this . Is straight up hypocritical . Was it a bit of an asspull? Kinda .. but so was Super Saiyan Rage for Trunks and Super Saiyan God for Goku… Goku didn’t “earn” that shit .. they literally did a ritual for him to get it
@@mug281 it's more about foreshadowing and explaining newly introduced concept
@@ElPresidenteMargz doing a ritual is still better than wishing it like piccolo, and is something he should've done with either his or universe 6 namekians
@@da911beast Piccolo only wished for his own potential to be unlocked. There's nothing cheap about that
It was a good movie. I wish they would've approached cell different. Not a giant monster. I would've liked to see Gohan go hand to hand with his new form.
Ard where y’all watch it at 👀
@@muslimmade1852 what’s you’re Twitter
Drop the link please.
Please drop the link.
Current RR couldn't replicate what Gero did (this is a proof that Dr Gero are the smartest person in db multiverse)
I liked that cell max and piccolo weren't big lumbering figures and could still move fast despite their size
I wouldn’t call it a Wakanda rip off entirely. The more time that passes in the world the harder it will be to be 100% original.
i love it tho
I'm pretty sure that a barrier that hides what is inside has been a thing before, the thing is the MCU is too big and people will compare everything to it because it became a point of reference ( it can be the actual reference tho, I'm not arguing that )
Also hasn't Vegeta been dusted before? lol
Gohan is my favorite character and I always love seeing him fight but it has always pissed me off that the fan base is so one track minded that they think everyone has to be top tier, fighting all the time, training all the time, max power characters. It's almost as if nobody in this fandom knows what characterization is. Gohan doesn't like to fight, he enjoys being academic, he wants to have the traditional family life he never got from his own father. I mean shit, he watched his father die twice, he watched piccolo die after being abducted by him for over a year, he had to endure everything he went through on namek, there is nothing weak in wanting to forge your own life while still stepping up to the plate when you are needed. Gohan doesn't fight because he wants to Gohan fights when he needs to, to protect the people he cares about. The fan base doesn't seem to care what the characters motivations are they just want all of their favorite characters to be in every fight and honestly that's extremely simple minded of them.
That's precisely why the fandom is mad about it tho. He may not like to fight and all of that but he's been fighting for his life since he was like 4 so it makes no sense why he would completely give up fighting when he knows there are threats out there to hurt his loved ones. All we are saying is that he can train, work, and be a family man like any normal human being instead of using the same trope over and over again about him not training, being weak and then have to restart over and over.
We’ve all heard this argument for years. But I don’t think it’s much to ask to simply put him in situations (like this movie) where he’s pushed to his limit and forced to reach the next level. I don’t know why people have this idea that he can’t be a scholar while also being one of the strongest fighters. If there’s a threat to the earth, there’s a reason for him to train.
@@calvarius7able Honestly if they developed the side characters like they were supposed to then ppl would legitimize the series as complete. However they just keep goku and vegeta power ups to go against powerful foes with recycled powers and story lines. Just imagine for the TOP if we could have buu, goten and trunks (developed), broly, gohan on par with goku and vegeta, etc. the series would have so many fans for all the fleshed out great characters they created. Instead they all take a back seat to the same things goku and vegeta been doing since forever.
Its not about that its about him not progressing and accomplishing his goals and not preparing for future threats. He hasn't gotten his career while also not fighting not achieving a goal. He has seen constant enemies stronger than the next so he should prepare for future threats to protect his family by training just so he is strong enough . He doesn't always have to fight but he should be more cautious considering prior experiences.
😂 Gohan is trash, and a developmental movie isn’t gonna save his broken arch. Vegeta and Goku are the main event now and till the end imo. And great move bringing broly into the mix - even watching broly put some respect on Vegeta’s name was so satisfying to watch.
There was two lines in the movie that I feel got overlooked and I mean for me they had a big impact. One was when Piccolo and Gohan first connect and Piccolo tests him but Gohan mentions not being soft followed by getting gut punched. Later he explains to Piccolo he has been training in secret to do the Special Beam Cannon. While Gohan isn’t training hardcore it at least implies he has been training some, meaning he is not just going into the same rut entirely.
I do wonder if those golden ants are a Easter egg for a future story beat leading to a future villain. Could be interesting.
I was really hoping the super saiyants would become important later but I still appreciate the pun
I don’t think Cell Max was COMPLETELY mindless. Seemed to me he had at least some sort of thought process. Just the fact he was incomplete so he didn’t have the ability to speak yet.
Best parts of this movie:
- Final Gohan blowing up Cell Max with Special Beam Cannon
- Piccolo new form,
- Vegeta beats Goku,
- Dr Hedo
I do like that vegeta got one on goku. Shows progression.
GAMMA 2
@@breakerxblandino That was the third time actually.
This movie was a breath of fresh air for me .
I’m glad we didn’t see much of goku and vegeta , and honestly as a long time dragonball fan it was very nice to see this movie focus on other characters and giving them the respect they deserve , rather then having goku come save the day . It was also great to see an actually threat without seeing whis and Beerus there .
And I honestly don’t think Gohans transformation was an ass pull , just off the fact that gohan’s power has been consistent through the entire series . Radditz, frieza, cell, he has always had power increases from rage from witnessing those he cares about and innocent life being destroyed . Over all good movie and piccolo really shined through out this movie .
Where can I tech itt
@@turntmanjimison7615 9 anime
I don’t think Gohans transformation was an ass pull at all. They’ve actually been building it up for years.
It's crazy if cell Max's brain would have been finished, he might have been a good guy too.
So in a way he was a unwilling victim thanks to Red Ribbon
How boring that would be, ANOTHER villain reformed😩👎
@@great159 Who said anything about Reformed....
Bro. He was trying to kill everyone.
Toriyama Sensei himself said Gohan is the strongest.
What he didn't say is Gohan is the Strongest of All.
Gohan is currently the strongest... Alongside Goku, Vegeta and possibly Broly
Broly so strong he don't even know how strong he is
You have written 1k+ comments in this channel..
Nice pfp
@@Nikketmzee I'm a bit of a Danny fangirl who gets pretty active once in a blue moon, so what lol
@@priestesslucy3299 if that’s once in a blue moon then I can’t imagine if you were on here frequently 🤣
I like Gohan getting a power up but he should be not equal to Goku and Vegeta just yet. He should be just below them now but I think they make it so that he will keep up with his training and will come close to Goku and Vegeta.
I agree. Partly because they should be so much ahead. Like so much. Gohan might be stronger than when he got his potential unlocked in the buu arc but even then the new transformation to take him from that planet buster level to God level... Idk. Even with his mass potential because that's a much bigger jump than ssj2 to ultimate etc
I hope that beast Gohan is just like, a limit break kind of thing but not a proper new form like UI/UE, so that Gohan is technically stronger than Goku/Vegeta but only under uncommon situations
The movie scene with everyone jumping in and mainly gohan reminded me of the the z movie Wrath of the Dragon which had everyone fight Hirudegarn, I do think the movie was fast paced but it was enjoyable so it was fine. I do wish we got to see more of Broly but the fact they included him shows they hope to use him for future projects.
Where’d you watch it?
@@kylejohnson3455 People are uploading it to RUclips all the time, you just gotta catch it before Toei does.
@@kylejohnson3455 9anime
@@alexsao1105 what do i type in on the site? Not seeing it pop up
Gohan still can't catch worth spit. 😂(Refering to the senzu bean) (immediately thought of him failing to catch that potara earing.)
he was catching bullets point blank in a weaker state when the Buu saga started but
can’t catch an ear ring Goku tosses bro him in his ultimate form lol
@@consciousgaming5991 True. As well as a basebalI ⚾ still think that there was an implication though. For humor/comedy of course. I think they should stick with it.
@@consciousgaming5991 bullets fly straight at him.
That's the mistake Goku and Piccolo made. They shouldn't be tossing the thing in a gentle arc, they should be straight up launching them at him lol
To me, everything about this movie worked except for Final Gohan, dude pulled it out instantly without any explanation and for only like 10 seconds.
Exactly smh plus since when did he know the special beam Cannon?
@@tercial Gohan said in the film he was practicing the move in secret.
@@tercial kid goku copied kamehameha from kame sennin in just 5 seconds right?
@@KaptanDest yeah and kid Buu copied instant transmission after seeing it once. Copying a technique fast is a talent that few fighters have.
@@tercial I dont think its necessary to be talented to copy other peoples techniques. Even so, Tien, chatzou, krillin copied some of the techniques from the og series. Gohan has been with piccolo since he was a kid, of course gohan has the talent to copy makankosappo
Honestly? It was refreshing seeing a non-galatic threat, a movie where the stakes are relatively minor compared to everything else in super so far. And while Cell Max was a danger to the earth, it was only at the end and was meant to just help Gohan grow. The majority of the movie was just Piccolo's master plan of trying to get Gohan to not be Goku.
It makes sense that gohan had another form…ultimate gohan was like his version of gokus UI omen. So having this final form makes since because gohan never trained to improve the form, so it’s fitting. The bang is too long but it’s fitting
You've got a point about the fanboys of certain characters taking certain things in totally different ways.
Then again, fanboys have always been a breed apart. As long as their character is shining, screw everything else.
i knowwwwwwwwww
Exactly, I mean the Vegeta fans are taking that after credits scene as a way of saying Vegeta is officially stronger. Seriously, that little moment guys?
The Vegeta fanboys are the most obnoxious
I didn’t love how Gohan and Piccolo ended up getting their respective power ups. Piccolo has been training so long, it would’ve been nice to see him break his limits as a result of his own meditation and training rather than there being a wish for more power and the weird “you got an extra boost” from Shenron. Gohan’s power up definitely made no sense, but it might’ve made more if he saw Pan in immediate and serious danger
Gohan power up make sense. He is not Goku or Vegeta.
He is just like Broly.
Then how make sense for Broly change into legendary Saiyan form ???
How Goku mastered UI in 10 mins ??
@@adamkaiyt8241 For one, Gohan has a rage boost which is at no point compared to the Legendary Super Saiyan, or Broly’s Ikari form canonically. Second, while Gohan’s power is indeed immense, making a leap in power solely out of an emotional instant worked well 2 times: Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan 2 on their first appearances. The show is pretty much entirely about conscious self betterment, and Gohan chooses actively to pursue that in Academia. Yes he made leaps in the Tournament, but he also said in his training with Goku that he would WORK to achieve a form beyond his Ultimate form, but we don’t see any of that work put in. Yes, from a standpoint of Gohan’s rage and prior leaps the form makes sense, but from the philosophy and previous stages of progression in the show the form just feels unearned.
@@ikesimerson3382 not only that but WHAT is that form? Is it a new Super Saiyan form or is it exclusive to Gohan like Ultra Ego is to Vegeta? Is it attainable by anyone powerful enough like Ultra Instinct? That's annoying. Also he didn't get to really use the form.
ehhh Piccolo was never going to break any limit. He peaked long ago and the only thing he could do was keep up with the training so he wouldn't get rusty. He needed the shenlong upgrade lol, there was no other way.
Cut Piccolo some slack, he’s just utilizing the power of his people.
Isn’t too different than Saiyans being able to turn SS.
I just don't care for Piccolo only being able to achieve a new form through a wish. Aside from Goku and Vegeta, he trains more than any of the classic Z Fighters. So I feel he earns his power up but due to him being a Namekian he is being held back from achieving Saiyan level power. Which sucks imo. Gohan Blanco's design is just to cater to the nostalgia of his SS2 transformation vs. Cell
Facts. To add in. piccolo was so strong before he and kami split. He was above super Saiyan. They neglected his Giant transformation untill now. He's stronger than Frieza who has 6 transformations now. So piccolo is stronger than both a super Saiyan and a full powered Frieza gets no real transformations the entire series. Besides him getting his original power back for fusing with kami aswell as extra boost with nail.
And Cell Max is even worse 🤮
IT wasnt only because of a wish, it was because Dende wasn't capable of doing that yet, so they worked around it. The new transformation was a gift because shenron respects piccalo
The form was just a bonus it's more like his potential being awakened like Gohan which usually takes outside influence such as a god like old kai or elder namekian. I enjoyed the power up for Piccolo keeping him progressing in power.
I completely agree with you. He’s earned a power up through proper development not some cheap wish. He’s the only one that deserves it tbh
greetings from latin america!! great review and videos like always, I saw the movie it is really good i am happy for Gohan fans but for me I am more happy to see piccolo back in action he deserves more epic moments!
How?
Piccolo and gohan being the center is honestly great because they deserve to be in the spot light
The reason why Gas is soo strong is because he wished to be the strongest In the universe. The Dragon made him on par with Final Gohan that's what happened O.O
Holy fuck. If they find a way in the manga to make Gohan relevant & you call this... you are the man.
No way. This happen 3 years after the T.O.P
You hit the nail on the head! If you loved the old Z movies then this is the movie for you. It absolutely had that vibe and that is why I loved it. Everyone just needs to relax and enjoy the ride sometimes
5:45 Ngl, Danny, I thought you were gonna say “you gotta get right back up and eat that horse” lmao
About Piccolos power up: Every character owes their strength to the dragon balls at this point as they would have met perma death a long time ago without them, never reaching their current levels. To avoid abuse of these wishes they should have said this was a Namekian exclusive. The Saiyans have plenty of exclusive power ups.
Anyway, I'm sure the status quo will be restored when Final Mastered Ultra Instinct and Ultra Ego 2 are unlocked.
Gohan dropping the senzu had me rolling
got a link to the movie?
@@Maurice87071 its on gogoanime. Its not high quality, but it's good enough
I loved Gohan's new form. it's almost like stacking ssj2 on top of his ultimate form similar to what Goku & vegeta did with ssg
What the movie made me wonder is how how long was Magenta’s RR army around. I’m curious because they were able to record the Mecha Freeza-Trunks fight. I’m not sure if the manga did something different but it’s interesting because Dr. Gero didn’t know about Future Trunks at all. Yet with Magenta showing that clip means that the Red Ribbon was still around and Dr Gero had no clue lol
Maybe dr gero was finishing up his upgrades so he wouldn't know anything about that.
My favorite part was when Gamma 2 when into Overdrive Mode went to space and came down on Cell.
I legit want this character in DB Legends with an LF
Gamma 2 is a homie
Cell Max being Shin Godzilla was 10/10
Gohan and Piccolo are my top 2 favorite characters so this movie was a real treat. It was nice to see more slice of life elements like Piccolos house and little mannerisms like scratching the window as opposed to knocking. They really made Gohan and Piccolo bad ass.
Yo Geekdom there’s a dude on Twitter who apparently said from the novel that gohan’s new form is the ultimate state of his ultimate form. So an ascension of the ultimate.
That’s what I heard earlier!
So "Mystic SSJ"
@@jessesenshi809 not really. More like ultra ultimate
I loved this movie, even the final battle. I liked how long it took and how difficult it was!
That’s what she said
I’ve been trying to find a link but guess I have to wait till it comes out in theaters 😭
@@cool1001000 I managed to find it on youtube. I got very lucky
Oh my God it was beautiful the voice acting the action scenes it was beautiful
Battle of gods was the last time we got a (really) new antagonist with Beerus. Ever since Resurrection F, they kept playing with bringing back popular antagonist from Z.
The Universe 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 10, and 11 characters from the ToP? Moro and the Galactic prisoners? Granola and Gas?
@@scarrantsandreviews talking about DB movies bro
Bulma making frivolous wishes cracks me up. I also chuckled when Piccolo threw shade at Gohan after sending Pan through the boulder.
Also, after Cell Max being a thing I don’t wanna hear anyone complain how Moro looked like Perfect Cell now. They legit just reused Cell’s entire character minus a personality for this. How embarrassing !!
He can’t do both, Gohan takes training his mind the way his father takes training his body. That’s the lesson there Geekdom, he’s the most powerful but he doesn’t care about that. Message.
he needs to though
The true evolution of Gohan is if he learns to fight smart (like Spider-man does). Science + Power but that requires great writing, which this film showed promise in having.
Tbf, a 20 minute round trip to the Lookout and 2 minutes of real time in the RoSaT once a week could give him a 12 hour training session every week and only cost him 20 minutes total
@@Geekdom101 he does need to. To continue your MCU comparisons, with great power comes great responsibility. Gohan needs to take that to heart and mind especially if he plans to be able to protect Pan. He just got a lesson in how close he got to losing her so he's got to step up.
Did you watch the movie? He already acknowledged that he needs to keep up his training in the end and apologized for slacking off like usual
I really hope that if and when we get another movie it focuses on Trunks and Goten and builds them up as better characters. I'd also love to see Trunks develop an energy sword technique as an homage to his future self while still being his own unique character. They do need to do something with Goten too, but I don't know what. Maybe he could learn the Spirit Ball from Yamcha and develop it into a Multi Spirit Ball with like 4 or 6 of them flying around at once.
Or we get one of Majin Buu
I'd like to see a storyline where all the younger characters have to fight an underboss while the adults fight a big bad. It would be a fun B plot. I don't think they can carry a whole movie though.
If anyone is going to get a boost from the dragon balls, Piccolo deserves it. He in a sense was the original creators of the dragon balls.
Beyond that, Shenron actually gave Piccolo more than what he asked for.
Low key, being mad about Piccolo benefiting from Shenron is like being mad the Saiyans use super Saiyan forms.
The Gammas are basically Ultraman wearing Cyborg 009 uniforms lol
Honestly I think it was coming because I've always pictured Gohan's Blanco awakening mode
Gohan white supremacist
I think if you look it up you can find an old drawing of someone making gohan in that form. The white hair and red eyes. Just not that big ssj2 wanna be hair due
I’ll never understand people calling Dragon ball transformations “asspulls” 😂 we see Saiyans reacting to surpassing their limits by transforming all the time. UI and UE are techniques but transformations for Saiyans and even Trunks Super Saiyan Rage. Just have fun
It’s ass pull cause it’s not explained. UI & UE are throughly explained and expanded upon. Even before Goku & Vegeta used the transformations.
Carter I literately explained it. Not everything has to be spelt out. Plus this is a Dragon Ball, I’m tryna have fun and watch fights during a MOVIE not get bogged down with unnecessary explanations. They can expand on it during the series
@@Jay_SGE the movie was fun, the transformation was cool, but it's still an asspull. It doesn't need to be explained, you're right, but don't deny it didn't come out of nowhere. And yes Super Saiyan Rage is also another asspull. I would just like to know if it's a new Super Saiyan form, a Gohan exclusive or some other legendary thing like Ultra Instinct.
Lord Adamz Literally. UI is a Angelic Technique in order to use it Gokus body transforms to surpass its limits to use said technique. Gohan in Ultimate surpasses his limits and his body adapts giving him a new form. It’s that simple. Calling it an asspull is just choosing to nitpick cause 80% of Dragon Ball is ass pills
Confirmed that 21 is guros wife and 16 is indeed there son in this movie. Pretty cool.
I feel like the Gohan line that is in question was put into the story so that Gohan himself understands he needs to keep training in case he is the only hope again
Imagine if he discovered this form during Buutenks fight
I hope you do make a video on Gohan's new form from this movie and check your facts because there must be more or a reason for why this form looks the way it does I'm just saying I know you'll do a good job whenever you get around to it oh and PS toriyama have been known to forget things I don't mind sometimes you can forget key details on something shouldn't hold it against anyone
It’s going to be exactly like Future Trunks’ Super Saiyan Rage that won’t get any explanation at all.
I loved this film. I hope they continue with gohan as a main character and have him train consistently while also doing what he wants. He doesn’t even need that much training cause of his great potential so 🤷🏽♂️
That is why Broly and Gohan are such monsters their potentials are insane
@@etern12129 RUclips lol
Brolys Potential >>>>>>>>>>
@@godslayer8894 Brolys potential is farrrr greater than gohans and I love gohan but goten and trunks technically have better potential than gohan
@@diavolothegod6282 I know Broly has greater potential he's Legendary Super Saiyan
Been looking forward for this video since the movie came out.
It was nice to see Piccolo become the antagonist again.
Honestly, I like that Gohan can have normal life yet still be able to fight as needed when necessary. He's like Ken from Street Fighter. I just hope that his life doesn't follow the same path as Ken and he ends up like Ken is SF6. I do like the diversity. For the first time they're truly diverse. Goku with UI, Vegeta with UE, Gohan with Mystic or as I call it kai power(Zamasu showed us that even Kais if they're serious about achieving their goals can reach extremely high tiers of ascension), Piccolo still ascending on the namekian path, Broly hopefully the one to SSj4. Fusion should stay with Goten and Trunks. In time Pan will get her own unique traits. Techniques, mainly the Kamehameha, will continue being shared but that's not a problem.
Great vid geekdom. That line Gohan says about how he was unsure if Goku and Vegeta could beat Cell Max reminds me of the Goku line in DBS Broly where hes like, “you may be even stronger than beerus” many took that line very seriously but in my mind it’s just characters speculating.
Definitely, gohan wasn't present when goku/vegeta fought broly so he can only guess goku/vegeta current strength.
I don’t think Gohan slacks off as much as everyone thinks, they hint at this when he says he learned the Special Beam Canon. He’s a family man and enjoys being a scholar but we (and Piccolo aka the films MVP) are just assuming he doesn’t train at all anymore!
Sorry to say but this movie is way better than the Broly movie Character development a better story unlike the new rehashed Broly movie and for once these RUclipsr’s have other characters to talk about besides from Goku and Vegeta 8/10 for me…Also Gohan clearly said he trained on the low so his new form didn’t just come from anywhere and Piccolo only wished for himself to have a power up
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Super Hero is my 2nd favorite DB film of all time
Nooo, the form completely came out of nowhere. You can justify an entire form based on a one liner "Ive been training my makankosappo"??
Really hope the next film pushes the animation with a mix of Broly and Super Heroes best styles and is about Uub.
Also hope this new form of Gohan’s has some special powers like Ultra instinct and Ego and isn’t just a straight up power up
I found it funny that Gohan is going full circle and mimicking his father, too busy to invest time in their child so piccolo has to act as the day care dad again. The difference is he's invested in his studies rather than training, but both are too focused on their "careers".
I'm a big fan Geekdom , I have waited Soo long for a namekian form!!!
Namekian Power 🔋 💪🏿
Good thing I’m not the only one that has waited a long time for a Namekian transformation from my boy Piccolo.😊
Fuck I popped so much when piccolo changed fuck yeah finally!
Wasn't Gohan intended to be the strongest from jump ?....getting super strong when mad...was significantly stronger then the main cast in cell saga on top of unlocking ssj2
Not to mention during the Buu saga Gohan was out of the game for awhile and still surpassed everyone after like a few days worth of training to fight Buu.
Thats not how u write a good character.... Whats the point of watching the DB franchise and follow GOku and Vegeta's betterment and if every now and then they'll just release a movie with an unexplained for for Gohan to catch up?? GOhan at this point is the sides of all characters, no screen time at all. Feels cheap
This movie is simply amazing..it is all the way a Toriyama work, beside of the add of Gohan as coprotagonist, you can really breath the old fashioned Dragon Ball first series style mixed up with Z/Super. I loved it, anytime when they break the fourth wall and talk to us(Piccolo did it ) and all the other atmpspheres reprising Dott.Slump and Arale. Great Job, totally
It's a poor movie imo.. the animations were top notch I'll give them that but the way the events happens is just too simple .. bland.. and the transformation
. It doesnt have a stand out moment.. like no background score to define it. No mention of it after the fight.. no one's shocked at gohans new power.. this was actually a terrible way to introduce the form.. gamma 2 and goku vs vegeta sparing, beerus flirting with CHEELAI, and gohans special beam .. were the good things.. the rest was just meh. 2.5 stars
@@kodeth5200 your argument is extremely pessimistic
@@rari2xx nah dude .. its realistic you'll feel the same when the hype dies..
@@kodeth5200 the events are nowhere near simple/bland. The stand out moment is the two transformations..people were definitely shocked by his transformation. You sound like someone who isn’t a fan of the dragon ball franchise
@@rari2xx bruh it was a letdown .. you may have enjoyed it.. but I think the range also matters... like do you watch other animes to compare it to? Just compare it super broly I compared it naruto so you know naruto beats dragon ball in depth, anyways my point is when gogeta turns up the final kamehameha theres a grand finale like moment, the sound is loud, the background score is amazing everything clicks.. here he just sees piccolo getting beat up n just screams n gets a new form.. to which piccolo krillin no one has any reaction to not even pan .. and then the form isnt even discussed later, n the way he transformed was sh*tty he just screams he has the new form.. it was awful.
People can be mad but Piccolo is always training and always helping others get stronger so I’m glad he got a boost
Pan didn't KNOW how to fly. Like you said - it was instinctual as a baby, like how babies are able to swim as an instinct but we have to actually learn it later on? Yeah, that.
I honestly loved the movie!! My only complaints are possible retcons like pan flying and unexplained transformations. But hey, if I get these answered later on I’m cool with them. Animation was honestly dope, sorry to all the 3d cgi haters, but I rocked with this animation. Mixing the old school character designs with new school methods. Loved it.
The form isn’t unexplained. It was foreshadowed before ToP. It’s an ascension from the ultimate form. The ultimate state of the ultimate form if you will.
@@Tonypepperoni32 good point, you’re just making me love this even more now!
@@Tonypepperoni32 but Gohan didn’t train after the TOP.
Think of baby pan flying like how a baby knows how to swim naturally. It just happens. But when you get older you tend to forget
@@Bannedconfidential Gohan did mention at the end of the movie he taught himself the special beam canon training on his own. So I think he was implying he’s been training somewhat in secret every now and then. Also, I may be wrong, but I think In the Moro arc it was said him and piccolo had been training together. So doesn’t sound like he’s done much since the ToP, but don’t think he completely stopped training since then.
Would of been cool if Cell Max Evolved into Perfect Cell Max so we could see a better fight w/Gohan. See how powerful these two are. But unfortunately we all know Gohan will never use his new form and will probably forget how to transform. 🤷♂️
Yoo geekdom thank for all for all of the things you do bro I appreciate you bro !
"they don't really care, they just want you to go out there and having fun"
one sentence that Holywood machine forgot, maybe that's why this movie so successful.
I loved this movie a lot tho, just wish we didn't get that big tease whenever Pan flies around our Dragon team and you see Trunks and Goten's fingers touch! I wish we got to see just a glimpse at lease if it was just for 1 to 2 secs.
Same ! That was a douche move . Even would been good financially if they had shown the character . All the games would have used it .
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They KILLED this movie! I LOVED it! They had all the side characters play a major role and it went VERY well despite Goku and Vegeta not having major parts. INCREDIBLE. I loved seeing Gohan go from nerdy to serious about his loved ones. That scene where he jumped out the plane and landed was AWESOME. Piccolo was a BEAST. The music, the scenes, and fights were pretty dope. That Piccolo scene of him getting beat by Cell Max was gut wrenching to the point where you could FEEL Gohan's PTSD from seeing 16 get killed by Cell to now. You can even notice how Gohan starts to decrease his power up aura when he sees Piccolo get blasted to the point where he stops the power up completely. REALLY chilling. And to top it off, he chooses to use Piccolo's finisher move as opposed to his own. AMAZING movie. I loved it. 18's voice when she revealed it was a huge Cell even had you sense her form of PTSD from the original Cell.
At 5 min 43 seconds Geekdom/Danny speaks words of wisdom we all should listen too and reflect on I have one foot in stirrup about to straddle that saddle again after being down in the crevace for years...PREACH!!!!!
Cell Max and these new power-ups doesn't bother me that much but they do have me wondering if it'll ever be explained or it would get the same treatment as Trunk's Rage form. Cell Max is okay for me, he's just there to be the final wall for Gohan and the others to overcome in order for them to grow.
I think it would be cool if the dragon every time he comes out grant a random amount of wishes like 1-3. It’s just gotten to the point where I know it’s 3 wishes but we get multiple movies where it’s 1 or 2 just make it random or up to the dragon.
Pan flying wasn't a retcon. Her flying was a Toei thing it wasn't in the manga
If you’re referring to BROLY, the SUPER Anime did have two wishes already done in ep 29 and 68, thus explaining why there was 1 wish in BROLY.
@@agerard6297 I was thinking that but if time passes shouldn’t the wishes just reset after a year or whatever again probably just the staff forgetting how many wishes. Just throwing a different wrinkle at the dragon balls might make em more interesting
I could see some of that point but all three wishes were made within a year. Wish 1 in ep 29 and Wish 2 in 68 were a few weeks apart. Wish 3 came like 9-10 months later, between the Buruma pregnancy and Vejita’s comment in BROLY about the ToP being recent.
@@agerard6297 imagine they are excepting 3 wishes from shenron and he’s like nah fam you get 1. EVERYONE would be like WHAT?!? Lol
As a gokutard ngl I was mad ash that he lost to vegeta but then I understand that you have to be fair with the writing at least goku laughing like he didn’t care 😂
Finna make it worse.. goku has never beat vegeta
Goku has beat the ass of people that beat vegetas ass MULTIPLE times so it’s all good
@@i.dont.wanna.do.this.anymo1820 tbh they need to fight to death and have the dragon balls on the side
Vegeta is 3-0 against goku so 😂
@@mando7323 mane vegeta only counts this win 😂
It's like babies know how to swim/float. But toddlers kind of forget how to swim. It's like that with Pan.
Dude I salute your dedication you have been my source for Dragonball for a long time keep it up brother
I hope the form gets explained because when ultimate was introduced I got the impression that he didn't need any other form because that was all his future potential of power unlocked right now. We even saw it go from around ss3 level to equal to blue in dragon ball super. So I'm surprised ultimate didn't just get stronger and stronger. Maybe this new form is the true ultimate form
I think it's his ultimate form with ss2 multiplier on it. I can't remember but I thought it was said that ultimate can be base form with the ss multipliers added on to it but Gohan just doesnt do it.
My guess is at the time, that was what ultimate was meant to be. He was the strongest solo character in Buu saga. A.T. Has stated Gohan has the most potential. So if we went off the original concept of him having his max power unlocked in Buu saga, then they continue the story, eventually potential unlocked wouldn’t be his max power due to the story. He would NEED to get stronger to still be relevant at all. Seems like a slight retcon of the idea to me because he needs Gohan to be stronger now. I assume it’ll say something like “that’s all the power he had at that time” and since he’s older and part saiyan his potential as an actual mid 20s adult is higher than when a teen. Honestly I’m just guessing but that makes sense to me.
My concern with the English dub is Dameon Clarke. His yelling/screaming has always been the weakest part of his performances imo. Gonna be hard to match Wakamoto’s intensity, esp if Clarke decides to use the goofy Semi-Perfect Cell voice.
Yep. Og cell wasn’t someone who screamed 24/7
Anyone: "This isn't even my Final Form!"
Final Gohan: *Starts sweatin'
My theory is, if Gohan was in super saiyan 2 and he did all that emotional pulling thing when he thought piccolo is gonna die, he might be able to go super saiyan 3, But since he's in his mystic form he ascended that form into "final gohan" instead. Meaning gohan has this ability and capability all this time just like future trunks who went super saiyan ikari.
Definitely a fan pleaser movie.I was expecting that it would've been a Cell Games callback with Broly added. Everyone would get 30 secs of action and then when Gohan sees that he's the only one standing he snaps and unlocks Blanko.
it is obvious that this fanfic movie they have done doesn't work at all... otherwise there would be a marginal minority that didn't like it... but it would be accepted overall... in best case scenario half of the people only like it and probably it is because they are hardcore fans that would support no matter what... to be honest my only problem with the movie that I had before watching it was that it was a CGI movie, it never even occur to me that the writing was gonna be this bad... I have been ok with the anime been in a hiatus so the writing of the anime can improve since the DBS anime is trash, but if now in the movie, where they have time and everything, the result is these kind of writing... I just rather they don't continue with the anime because i don't want to hate this franchise...such a big opportunity came from whis, beerus and the different universe, and now the direction of what is happening is this.... nah... I rather they just stop doing any kind of content so it cannot be a real canon cause fixing everything that is happening is just kinda impossible....
All this just points to how wild and crazy the next version of DragonBall is going to be. Broly as an OP Ally, Gohan El Blanco, Mui Goku and UE Vegeta, and teen Gotenks along with however they intend to make Uub broken (Probably MajUub again).. its going to be nuts, and probably a far more flashy version of GT to where they're gonna be battling the Super Dragon incarnate or more Rogue Kaoshins, with Pan, Bulla, and Goten & Trunks having their own entire arcs. That's all I keep thinking about is how DragonBall Next Gen is gonna look
I love how Cell Max is a ladybug and Gamma 1 & 2 are a shark and sting ray.