Fake news libtard, Trump is the powerhouse of the cell and don't you dare forget it, being the richest guy in his housing unit and being old and frail he's gonna be powering the whole house in his cell when all the other inmates start extorting him
@@theapologist6717 Well at least you won a Championship right? You may want to buckle up because it might be a long wait again before you win another one.
EDP would not go over well for long. You think the Eagles have injury problems every year... imagine half of the toilets being on the Injured Reserves list every week.
"Personal friend"? From everything I've heard the last 6+ years Howie is more like a surrogate son to Lurie, almost like Jason Garrett was to Jerry Jones.
@ He deleted his comment so I don't know what he said but judging by the reactions it was simply something racist and in bad taste. "Tribe-like". You siding with that is disgusting.
Looking back now. Howie honestly has rebuilt the eagles really well. And put them in a position to see if hurts pans out. And if he doesnt they got draft picks to trade up. Seems like he rebuilt a pretty good team imo
Everyone on the Eagles Instagram is commenting nonstop “Fire Howie” to all their posts. I think if enough people keep doing it maybe Lurie will finally have the balls to fire his sorry ass.
I feel for ya bro, as a Bills fan who survived 4 Super Bowls in a row followed by a 20 year playoff drought I can definitely empathize with the pain of videos like this and y'all are the only NFC East team who never beat us in a Super Bowl so Philly always been my city to root for in your division, I loved the Andy Reid years (where our coach got his start) and then it was great getting to see you guys win that Super Bowl with your backup QB being coached by our old ace backup QB (back during our Super Bowl years) Frank Reich as your offensive coordinator, it was tough to watch it all fall apart so quickly after that, hoping you guys can get right soon cause efff the Giants and Cowboys and whoever the fuck them nobodies are down in DC are lmfao, Let's Go Philly!!
This now estranged Eagles fan agrees with you. Following Carson to the Colts, the way this team consistently strokes egos and throws its best players out and makes us watch these rebuilds has more than run its course with me. Once Howie out, maybe I’ll take a look back and see if the team is worth my time. But between TO with Donovan, LeSean and DeSean with Chip, now Carson with Doug and Howie and these asinine smear tactics the city has to do with him, I’ve had enough.
As an eagles fan. It’s safe to say that underdog cities like to root for eachother. I’ll always root for the bills and browns along with the eagles. Here’s hoping they both end their super bowl droughts soon.
As a biased Philly Fan, I think so many other things went wrong too. -Roseman got too much control in the draft, which he always kinda sucked at (Reid was likely the guy behind that early success) -Roseman never got over the front office telling him to wait to draft Russell Wilson til the 4th round, this led to him not listening to anything Joe Douglas said, and one of the better talent evaluators in the league left. -Peterson, while he was held back by a few strings, also just was never as good once Reich left -By the time they won the Superbowl, the core was already pretty old, in hindsight they waited way to long to rebuild (couch cough The exact same mistake the Phillies made cough cough) -Not trading Foles immediately proved to be a mistake, and in Hindsight, the Bears double doink game killed the Eagles just as much as the Bears. Too much of Philly was never with Wentz to begin with. Too much of Philly couldn't get over Foles leaving, and Philadelphia gave up on Wentz long before they had a reason to. Sucks but it's true. -The team was old but in fairness the team was better then consecutive 9-7 years. Take 2019, they were injured to shit and despite that Wentz had 2 separate game winning touchdowns dropped and 1 more game tying. Wentz really carried them to at least 11-5 right there (Instead, Wentz was given receivers that can't catch). -Wentz, in hindsight, leaned on the Strong Offensive Line and Weak Division to carry the Injuries, Questionable coaching, Spotty Defense and poor receivers not named Ertz to more success then they deserved. -The Offensive Line, the only consistently good part of the team not named Wentz, finally fell apart to age and injuries and Wentz fell apart. -Wentz did some of this to himself, this mechanics were bad this year and his hero ball, while understandable in such a terrible situation, was way to careless nevertheless. But in general, I'm happy he's gone, I love him, but there's nothing here for him. I think Reich will reconstruct him and he'll be back to Pro Bowl shape.
The Eagles literally thought they were about to be a dynasty, yet one year after they won the Super Bowl, the team they beat to start their "dynasty" won another Super Bowl. Then two years after that, Wentz and Pederson are both gone
And then just for kicks, the quarterback they beat in that super bowl left his original dynasty for a new team, won another super bowl, and now has a better shot at winning another than the Eagles do of even reaching one.
2017 was a perfect storm. They had a starting QB on a rookie deal, the right FA signings at the right time, along with decent young players. It wasnt built to last
As a Philly fan it is viewed as being Howie and Jeff’s fault. Howie for being a terrible drafter and handicapping the team with bad contracts and Jeff for not firing him multiple times
2019: DK is available! Howie: Nope 2020: Justin Jefferson is available! Howie: Lol 2021: Ok, you can't possibly mess this up 3 times in a row Howie: We'll find a way
@@mikespongili8254 Nobody whiffed on JJ He was the 4th rated WR went 5th due to how the 49ers value players different due to scheme. DK was pretty well know to be just a tall man who runs slants or go balls but that was still better the Whiteside who only runs being covered and never winning contested catches.
Howie Roseman: *sweating intensely* Doug Peterson: *waiting patiently for a job* Nick Foles: *chilling on a beach in Hawaii with a decent team and a good cap situation*
A decent team that would be MUCH better, if we could dispose him for a quality quarterback. Oh russelllllllllllllllll! Come to Chicago PLEEEEEEEASSSEEEEEE...
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Tribuisky is here to stay. Russell is a disaster waiting to happen, he's already regressed tremdously. Nick foles just sucks.
@@UndefeatedZoe Not even close to true about Wilson! Yeah he played terribly in that playoff game, but who on that team was playing any good football that day?? Not to mention outside of that week playoff performance he had a GREAT season
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 There's nothing spectacular about Wilson anymore. Doesn't have the arm, doesn't have the mobility, definitely isn't the ideal size, and makes poor decisions. I'd be totally fine with the seahawks taking a QB in the mid rounds.
3 years ago Wentz was in the MVP race and they won the Super Bowl against Tom Brady on the patriots. The Vikings were in the NFC championship. But one thing never changed the saints throwing it in the second round
fr i had hope and faith as long as we had guys like wentz, jenkins, etc.. but they are all gone now, so its boom or bust, but i think the chair in the basement has our name on it
@@silliestgoober69 an even though like Jalen Hurtz is great I don’t really think he’s the answer as he has very little experience and even though he has the better offensive line this year with guys back something in me feels as if it’s not gonna work out
@@ctruth6185 idk I just have a feeling he’s not gonna fit with this offense even though on paper it seems like he would. I always am optimistic but for some reason I just got that feeling about him.
Thank you for making this. Roseman made some big moves that were instrumental in our SB title and I’ll forever be grateful to everyone who was involved in that, but damn we deserve better than him. His strategy of making off-the-rails draft decisions and overpaying for aging FA rentals is killing us.
After seeing how Colts' GM Chris Ballard manages with his team, I don't think that Nick Siriani will fall in line with Lurie's and Roseman's philosophy.
I will say at least Pederson gave us the most hilarious F-U moment of football in years by benching Hurts in the final game. I haven't laughed that hard at a football game in ages.
Sadly as a big Eagles fan I know exactly what this video is a about before even watching it. This franchise needs fixing on more than just coaching and a QB. I still to this day don't think Carson should have gone and that he was not the issue.
man i cant say how much i appreciate your content, i check back almost daily for new videos lol. Its rare to see videos of this quality in the NFL community nowadays so im happy to wait. Keep it up man.
As we see the growth of the win now mentality, an organization (and fan base) like the Philadelphia Eagles is a great experiment to watch. Will they embrace the tank to win later or will they try to win now like the Nets did when they were purchased by their overlord of an owner?
That 2017 season we all dreamed. The Eagles won a Super Bowl, the Jaguars somehow were 10 minutes away from making it, Case Keenum was at top 10 QB, 2017 didn’t happen.
Multiple super bowl teams are ass the next year after a super bowl win lmao. We went to the second round of the playoffs of the next year and then a first round exit after how is that being a one hit wonder 😂
@@Cartierz5812 You also had the benefit of being part of the dumpster fire known as the NFC East where a 9-7 record gets you a playoff spot. You also got to face the Mitchell Trubiskey led Bears. Yeah you guys definitely showed everyone after that win.
Bro! I LOVE these retrospectives. Will you please do one on the Panthers. We deserve one. Where do we go from here. Do we keep Mccaffrey or go a different direction, will we get Watson, Will we draft a good Quarterback. It's crazy.
@@kurtwagner350 I'd give more credit to Reich for A. Getting Wentz to play like an MVP whenever he was healthy, B. Getting Foles to avoid his infamous bad games during the playoffs, and C. Just generally being a damn good playcaller, but yeah the Pats defense did give up 41 to Nick Fucking Foles so I take your point
The Eagles literally sold their soul to get a SB. Doug wanted to bring back or hire terrible offensive coordinators to be puppets so that he could retain play calling. It was his fault that he was fired
Eagles just replaced a SB winning coach with a "Yes" man HC, because the front office can do whatever they want regarding roster, signings and draftings without the HC complaining, unlike Pederson.
As an eagles fan Thank you so much for releasing this for making this video. My takes I belive Carson Went is a good QB but diddn’t have a good O-line or receivers, and that Jalen Hurts was better with his mobility (I personally prefer more of dual threat QB so there is me with the QB situation) With all due respect to Wentz I believe Jalen Hurts is the guy of the future (Oh God please let this comment age well). However I feel that a big problem with the team was coaching, the birds would not have gotten the Lombardi without Reich as OC. And to prove my point just look at what he is doing in Indianapolis (they’ll be pretty good with Wentz) it killed me seeing all the failed 4th downs and 2 PT that were constantly happening on the field. So I believe it was good that Peterson was fired, and I believe Nick Sirianni is good HC hire (again plz let this comment age well). But I feel that the biggest issue that Trumps everything is Roseman is management and drafting has been trash and they need a new GM. #FireHowie
Howie thinks he’s a genius and always reaches with draft picks. As an eagles fan it’s frustrating many fans screamed for dk and Jefferson but he goes with whiteside and reagor also him bringing old veterans back and a high contract. The fact Doug’s play calling and player progression was terrible didn’t help
Loved the video! I think you should’ve mentioned the impact of Frank Reich leaving as well. My Colts have been fantastic with him at the helm while not necessarily having the best option under center
I get that Roseman has not been great, but Doug absolutely needed to go. His play calling was absent minded and poorly executed. He was like a 12 year old playing madden calling plays. Despite the Eagles running the 6th most plays in the NFL in 2020, we were 22nd in rushing attempts per game. We were also 3rd in Rushing Yards Per Attempt. This may be when the Eagles ran the ball teams were shocked. You could also make an argument that the Eagles had to throw more because they were down more in games. However, the eagles only lost by over a TD 6 times this season. Doug also was horrible on 4th Down. Despite attempting 35 4th down attempts this season, the Eagles only converted 15 making them 26th in the NFL. These poor stats would convince you to not go for it on 4th down in situations that it wasn't necessary correct. Well Doug with his infinite wisdom still tried to force our poorly preforming, 2nd stringer offense that was hurt most of the year to go for it on 4th in some of the worst situations possible. To frame it as a team firing a Super Bowl Head Coach 3 years after the victory is a little wrong. Wentz may have been playing like a dingus and the team may have been in a horrible cap situation, but Pederson is the most to blame for everything. If Wentz was playing bad, why did we not rely on the running game. We didn't because Doug is a 12 year old playing madden. Our offense had WR injuries throughout the year and we were starting guys that wouldn't even make some NFL rosters. Yet Doug refused to make any sort of changes until he benched Carson. The only thing that changed with Hurts was Hurts' mobility and confidence. The Doug still barely ran the ball with Hurts, but Hurts could offset the poor offensive line by scrambling. These Scrambles also counted as runs, so Doug was still not calling that many designed runs. So even though conventional logic would say that a super bowl winning head coach should not be fired 3 years after he won, Doug is a special case who also needed to check his own ego.
A HC can only do so much though, if your talent is lackluster and can’t get it done, then that’s the fault of your GM sucking at drafting and judging talent, not really your HC. Especially considering that said HC just won a Super Bowl.
@@TheUnnamedAssailant the HC won a Super Bowl with a pretty stacked roster and coaching staff which came from the GM scapegoat you and this video speak of, and there have been countless examples through all of NFL history of GOOD coaches elevating a sub par roster through said coaching so why does Peterson get a pass?
The fact that eagles fans just hungrily lap up whatever bs Lurie and Roseman squirt out is insane to me. Have fun going from sb champ to bottom of the worst division in the nfl.
there is not a single fan of the eagles that is also a fan of howie roseman. people wonder what blackmail he has on lurie. people like lurie. lurie is a owner willing to spend money unlike half the league. the problem is he has a accountant that weaseled his way into being a gm, kinda like what is going on in Huston with their Chaplin running the show, he will be their gm in a few years no doubt.
2020 Season with Doug Pederson was the lowest ranking the Eagles ever had under Lurie & Roseman. Lurie is right to not green light failure & mediocrity. Under Doug Pederson was the first time in over 25 years that Dallas swept the Eagles then the WFT. That was a really bad sign.
Eagles fanbase after winning a ring: We're the best team in the NFCE! Eagles fans 2 years late: *silence* Eagles fans after there team is disgraced and falling apart: At lEaSt We gOt A hIgHeR DrAfT pIcK
Hey gotta be honest as a eagles fan that is so true I don’t know why people say that eagles fans are toxic. Too me I think the eagles fans aren’t unless if your talking about “This is our year” then I understand but I already know that this season we going 4-5 wins maybe 6 and hey that high draft pick can be good for us
@@NinjaDilz3396 i think the main reason is the history you guys have, like the thing you guys are most known for is throwing batteries, that one dude that ate should shit after the superbowl and cheering when a player got injured in like the 80s or 90s. Also the fact that most of the time when theres an online presence of you guys you don’t care if your hated almost seeming as if you want to be, albeit most of that stuff I mentioned is in the past except for the last one, although this is likely a very small but vocal percentage of you guys
@@generalsynch6519 ah ok thanks I didn’t really watch the eagles till the start of the 17-18 season and I said START I don’t want people to think that I am a bandwagon but yeah I see what your saying even cowboys fans are annoying they saying that they have 5 rings but they weren’t even born to watch and or see any of them.
6:55 hitting on that many free agents is great but look at Roseman's 2017 draft, Derek Barnett is the only pick you could say was even okay and everyone else was a giant bust.
Really hoping Saturday's video focuses on what's happened with Reich, Wentz, and Foles since February 2018... Not that's I'm a Colts fan whose team's success depends on it or anything 😰
Part 2 of this mini-series on the historic fall-off of Carson Wentz is out now! Watch it here: ruclips.net/video/lU_Km4r045E/видео.html
Looking at this in 2023 days from the eagles playing in another super bowl 😮
“Did you win a ring?”
“Yes”
“What did it cost?”
“Everything...”
@Barclay Pierre élève Now presenting Carson Wentz as your savior!!!
As an eagles fan. They could suck for 10 years and I would still look back and say "worth it".
As an Eagles fan, I can confidently say I'd do everything the same way again for that super bowl
@@myosick I’m not an eagles fan but I would trade 20 years of being ass for a ring ngl
@Barclay Pierre élève
That’s gotta be the greatest tragedy of the Andrew Luck story
F
Remember when Howie Roseman was considered the undisputed best gm after making that super bowl roster? Success is definitely a dangerous thing
He has singlehandedly taken a time that could have been a potential dynasty for years to come and run them into the ground.
@@darthvader3742 why the patriots organization and Tom Brady’s feats are even more incredible
@@darthvader3742 i’m p sure wentz was a major contributor to that
All that contract restructuring he did was bound to bite him in the ass one day
@@emblazed9542 that’s why I’m really worried about my Packers in the coming years😬
A meddlesome owner taking control of all football decisions.
Cowboys fans: first time?
I like your pfp
Lmao as a Texans fan our owner put a pastor in charge of our football operations 😭😭
@@christophersalinas2722 Your ownership definitely ruined what could have been a superbowl contending team.
Washington fans: first time? Really?
I felt this way too hard
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Ngl kinda true
Who is Michael Chondria?
Fake news libtard, Trump is the powerhouse of the cell and don't you dare forget it, being the richest guy in his housing unit and being old and frail he's gonna be powering the whole house in his cell when all the other inmates start extorting him
@@xp7575 wtf
@@dakko-fm8wz I troll on a whole other level bruh lol
Beating Tom Brady in the Super Bowl always comes with a sacrifice
Hell! Just playing him in the big game will cost you your future
@@thekidfromcleveland3944 (COUGH!) FALCONS
@@thekidfromcleveland3944 Let's see what happens to the Chiefs, especially with Patrick Mahomes' $500 million contract kicking in.
You mean the Patriots? I was unaware Tom Brady was a team.
@@chrismathgenius YIKES! THAT'S A FRIGHTENING POINT...
"If you were an Eagles fan, you were psyched for what was yet to come"
Boy if that ain't the truth 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Philly Fan here: I mean yeah but.... it's Philadelphia..... we had seen this show before.
@@theapologist6717 Well at least you won a Championship right? You may want to buckle up because it might be a long wait again before you win another one.
@@JuwanBuchanan Maybe not that long
Man this has been a heck of a rollercoaster for you guys huh
@@PuchuKt Now they're 8-0, and probable Super Bowl favorites, over a year later. A wild ride indeed.
It's external too, man. The streets of Philadelphia haven't looked this bleak since 1985
Actually, that the early 1970's you're seeing behind you. (Yeah, that's how bummed, as an Eagles fan, I'm feeling right now.)
Blame Mayor Kenney who let people destroy the city
@@phillyfan-182 I'm sure he was talking in reference to the Eagles, and not to the city itself.
@@MrLeoni2 ehhhh i think most people understood the 85 reference...
@@pumpkingreg6673 I agree, but there is always that one person who doesn't get it.
Part 2 releasing this Saturday! Who do you think is responsible for the fallout in Philly?
Howie Roseman is the only answer
@@adamfoxresurgencebandwagon3234 Agreed
Mostly Roseman but also Wentz falling apart
Ownership
Will you please do one of these retrospectives on the Panthers. We need one
Eagles should of just be like “f*** it, let’s hire that super fan from RUclips to be our next coach and GM”
C4? C4!
EDP445
EDP would not go over well for long. You think the Eagles have injury problems every year... imagine half of the toilets being on the Injured Reserves list every week.
Philly 500?
@@number3stunner118 OH GAWD LOL
The two dislikes are Howie Roseman and Jeffery Lurie
It's up to 7 as of now. Some of the guys from their all-male orgy club must've tuned in.
@@number3stunner118 it’s at 9 now, Carson Wentz and Chip kelly disliked it too
@@CfbfanWentz is horrible. He had one good year that got him a massive contract and had done nothing since.
"Personal friend"? From everything I've heard the last 6+ years Howie is more like a surrogate son to Lurie, almost like Jason Garrett was to Jerry Jones.
@@tonyperez2204 Fuck off with that. Idc even if it's a joke.
@@tonyperez2204 dude wtf
@@X525Crossfire take a joke
@@epicknight013 As I said - not even as a joke. It's such poor taste it's not even funny to begin with.
@ He deleted his comment so I don't know what he said but judging by the reactions it was simply something racist and in bad taste. "Tribe-like". You siding with that is disgusting.
Last time I was this early, the eagles had the lead in superbowl 39
"Roseman-colored glasses."
Cute. Original.
Looking back now. Howie honestly has rebuilt the eagles really well. And put them in a position to see if hurts pans out. And if he doesnt they got draft picks to trade up. Seems like he rebuilt a pretty good team imo
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth NFC East the wise? I thought not, it’s not a story the NFL would tell you.
@Wil Rocket no are you okay
Not really that wise, were they?
Weak, more like it
I find it hilarious that the three Superbowls Brady has lost involved NFC East teams.
@@SalmanAli-hn2kt lmaoo
It was said they had the power to save the league from the Patriots ..... but could never save themselves .....
Everyone on the Eagles Instagram is commenting nonstop “Fire Howie” to all their posts. I think if enough people keep doing it maybe Lurie will finally have the balls to fire his sorry ass.
Nah Jeffrey is gay for Howie, no way he would fire his boyfriend
@@jackjames4459 yeah they’re definitely fingering under the bleachers
@@itchychalupa2704 yo that made me laugh lol 😂
you're kidding yourself just as much as those annoying shits are. Lurie isn't going to fire Howie just because people are crying on Instagram lol.
@@GHOSTOFONYX10 but if all 3 of our 1st rounders are busts he will
As a eagles fan this vid hurts. We went from champs to bottom 7 team in the league. Oh and btw FIRE HOWIE
The fire Howie take aged like milk in a desert 😭😭
It was Wentz and that’s it. Howie made some mistakes but Wentz was the reason 2020 happened
“Fire Howie” lol. It was all Wentz and the last 2 years have shown that.
Me, an eagles fan: do I really wanna watch this?
yes, yes I do...
Hahaha I asked myself the same question when he did the giants.
Still watched it
It hurt to watch man. Fire howie btw
We love to punish ourselves. It’s the philly way.
I’m happy I watched it, it kinda exposed things I didn’t know
Even if Philly lost the super bowl, this scenario would’ve still happened
Probably would’ve happened sooner
As an Eagles fan this just hurts my soul
I feel for ya bro, as a Bills fan who survived 4 Super Bowls in a row followed by a 20 year playoff drought I can definitely empathize with the pain of videos like this and y'all are the only NFC East team who never beat us in a Super Bowl so Philly always been my city to root for in your division, I loved the Andy Reid years (where our coach got his start) and then it was great getting to see you guys win that Super Bowl with your backup QB being coached by our old ace backup QB (back during our Super Bowl years) Frank Reich as your offensive coordinator, it was tough to watch it all fall apart so quickly after that, hoping you guys can get right soon cause efff the Giants and Cowboys and whoever the fuck them nobodies are down in DC are lmfao, Let's Go Philly!!
@@xp7575 You're not alone. the Browns had a 18 year playoff drought before we turned things around this season.
This now estranged Eagles fan agrees with you. Following Carson to the Colts, the way this team consistently strokes egos and throws its best players out and makes us watch these rebuilds has more than run its course with me. Once Howie out, maybe I’ll take a look back and see if the team is worth my time. But between TO with Donovan, LeSean and DeSean with Chip, now Carson with Doug and Howie and these asinine smear tactics the city has to do with him, I’ve had enough.
As an eagles fan. It’s safe to say that underdog cities like to root for eachother. I’ll always root for the bills and browns along with the eagles. Here’s hoping they both end their super bowl droughts soon.
As a biased Philly Fan, I think so many other things went wrong too.
-Roseman got too much control in the draft, which he always kinda sucked at (Reid was likely the guy behind that early success)
-Roseman never got over the front office telling him to wait to draft Russell Wilson til the 4th round, this led to him not listening to anything Joe Douglas said, and one of the better talent evaluators in the league left.
-Peterson, while he was held back by a few strings, also just was never as good once Reich left
-By the time they won the Superbowl, the core was already pretty old, in hindsight they waited way to long to rebuild (couch cough The exact same mistake the Phillies made cough cough)
-Not trading Foles immediately proved to be a mistake, and in Hindsight, the Bears double doink game killed the Eagles just as much as the Bears. Too much of Philly was never with Wentz to begin with. Too much of Philly couldn't get over Foles leaving, and Philadelphia gave up on Wentz long before they had a reason to. Sucks but it's true.
-The team was old but in fairness the team was better then consecutive 9-7 years. Take 2019, they were injured to shit and despite that Wentz had 2 separate game winning touchdowns dropped and 1 more game tying. Wentz really carried them to at least 11-5 right there (Instead, Wentz was given receivers that can't catch).
-Wentz, in hindsight, leaned on the Strong Offensive Line and Weak Division to carry the Injuries, Questionable coaching, Spotty Defense and poor receivers not named Ertz to more success then they deserved.
-The Offensive Line, the only consistently good part of the team not named Wentz, finally fell apart to age and injuries and Wentz fell apart.
-Wentz did some of this to himself, this mechanics were bad this year and his hero ball, while understandable in such a terrible situation, was way to careless nevertheless. But in general, I'm happy he's gone, I love him, but there's nothing here for him. I think Reich will reconstruct him and he'll be back to Pro Bowl shape.
Drafting Reagor instead of Jefferson?
@@corvus2512 That went under "Roseman got to much draft control when he's not all that good at it" but yes, another good example.
The Eagles literally thought they were about to be a dynasty, yet one year after they won the Super Bowl, the team they beat to start their "dynasty" won another Super Bowl. Then two years after that, Wentz and Pederson are both gone
And then just for kicks, the quarterback they beat in that super bowl left his original dynasty for a new team, won another super bowl, and now has a better shot at winning another than the Eagles do of even reaching one.
2017 was a perfect storm. They had a starting QB on a rookie deal, the right FA signings at the right time, along with decent young players. It wasnt built to last
Boom
As a Philly fan it is viewed as being Howie and Jeff’s fault. Howie for being a terrible drafter and handicapping the team with bad contracts and Jeff for not firing him multiple times
It was Wentz’s fault and no one else’s. We got rid of him and look where we are now.
2019: DK is available!
Howie: Nope
2020: Justin Jefferson is available!
Howie: Lol
2021: Ok, you can't possibly mess this up 3 times in a row
Howie: We'll find a way
With the 6th overall pick in the 2021 nfl draft the Eagles draft Sage Surratt
@@bmomgrimm6242 lol
I hope they do, it’d be too funny
JJ went late in the 1st. Everyone whiffed on that. DK's only a household name because of his abs and preventing a pick-6.
@@mikespongili8254 Nobody whiffed on JJ He was the 4th rated WR went 5th due to how the 49ers value players different due to scheme. DK was pretty well know to be just a tall man who runs slants or go balls but that was still better the Whiteside who only runs being covered and never winning contested catches.
Howie Roseman: *sweating intensely*
Doug Peterson: *waiting patiently for a job*
Nick Foles: *chilling on a beach in Hawaii with a decent team and a good cap situation*
A decent team that would be MUCH better, if we could dispose him for a quality quarterback.
Oh russelllllllllllllllll! Come to Chicago PLEEEEEEEASSSEEEEEE...
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 Tribuisky is here to stay. Russell is a disaster waiting to happen, he's already regressed tremdously. Nick foles just sucks.
@@UndefeatedZoe Not even close to true about Wilson! Yeah he played terribly in that playoff game, but who on that team was playing any good football that day?? Not to mention outside of that week playoff performance he had a GREAT season
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 There's nothing spectacular about Wilson anymore. Doesn't have the arm, doesn't have the mobility, definitely isn't the ideal size, and makes poor decisions. I'd be totally fine with the seahawks taking a QB in the mid rounds.
@@UndefeatedZoe His stats last year ,beg to differ.
3 years ago Wentz was in the MVP race and they won the Super Bowl against Tom Brady on the patriots. The Vikings were in the NFC championship. But one thing never changed the saints throwing it in the second round
Well he was on the winning team. Foles and that defense carried.
Hahahahahaha
The New Orleans Saints: The 2010s One and Done Placeholder
@@dcruznba785 he was good too that year
@@dcruznba785 if being on the SB winning team means anything why is nobody mentioning that Kliff Kingsbury is a SB winning qb
The Saints musta beaten your team pretty good for them to live in your head like they do
As an Eagles fan, these past years have caused a lot of pain.
fr i had hope and faith as long as we had guys like wentz, jenkins, etc.. but they are all gone now, so its boom or bust, but i think the chair in the basement has our name on it
@@silliestgoober69 an even though like Jalen Hurtz is great I don’t really think he’s the answer as he has very little experience and even though he has the better offensive line this year with guys back something in me feels as if it’s not gonna work out
@@alakepj9628 Why are you so pessimistic?
@@ctruth6185 idk I just have a feeling he’s not gonna fit with this offense even though on paper it seems like he would. I always am optimistic but for some reason I just got that feeling about him.
This video hurt so much two years ago and feels so good today
Chip Kelly should have never been hired in the first place let alone becoming a GM on top of being the head coach 😂🤦♂️❌
He's one of the most influential minds in football and more importantly a great coach, that's why he was hired. He just couldn't manage.
@@UndefeatedZoe yep, the successful GM/Head Coach hybrid is rare
Thank you for making this. Roseman made some big moves that were instrumental in our SB title and I’ll forever be grateful to everyone who was involved in that, but damn we deserve better than him. His strategy of making off-the-rails draft decisions and overpaying for aging FA rentals is killing us.
As an eagles fan... this in incredibly accurate. Great analysis
The interesting thing about Wentz is that he had basically the same weapons this year as 2019, and he threw for 4,000 yards in 2019
Regressing to the mean.
You can't carry a team twice
I mean a year can make someone lose a step and the offensive line was already really old.
He looked like he just lost all his confidence, the Hurts pick might have done it
He had a somewhat stable offensive line but not this past season
After seeing how Colts' GM Chris Ballard manages with his team, I don't think that Nick Siriani will fall in line with Lurie's and Roseman's philosophy.
And poor Nick will probably get eaten alive for it.
@@ColtsPacers1 which sucks because I really like Sirrianni.
It’s a good good day when Set The Edge uploads
I will say at least Pederson gave us the most hilarious F-U moment of football in years by benching Hurts in the final game. I haven't laughed that hard at a football game in ages.
And F***** over the giants in the process which was amazing because We all hate their owner
Damn a year later and this turned into a cold take
Just when my RUclips inbox is like a desert and recommendations suck a Set the Edge video for me to enjoy.
I have never ever liked youtube videos... But whenever STE puts out a video I instantly like it. Such high quality content and little recognition
Sadly as a big Eagles fan I know exactly what this video is a about before even watching it. This franchise needs fixing on more than just coaching and a QB. I still to this day don't think Carson should have gone and that he was not the issue.
He wasn’t the end all be all, but Wentz cannot be a QB in the NFL
@@Chris-xt8io he was a damn good one at one point
@@Chris-xt8io Wentz already is a QB in the NFL going on 5 years in 2021.
man i cant say how much i appreciate your content, i check back almost daily for new videos lol. Its rare to see videos of this quality in the NFL community nowadays so im happy to wait. Keep it up man.
As we see the growth of the win now mentality, an organization (and fan base) like the Philadelphia Eagles is a great experiment to watch. Will they embrace the tank to win later or will they try to win now like the Nets did when they were purchased by their overlord of an owner?
I'm an eagles fan I watched them win the superbowl now I'm in pain as everything fell apart one word pain..
You know, the culture... is actually damn good.
What is the name of the very first Background music you use in that specific video ?
Nice analysis btw, keep up the good work.
I mean, it’s cool that this is about my favorite team...
Definitely looking forward to part 2. Really well done.
This aged well
As a Washington fan this video was very satisfying to watch
Who’s here after the Eagles clinched a playoff spot?
That 2017 season we all dreamed. The Eagles won a Super Bowl, the Jaguars somehow were 10 minutes away from making it, Case Keenum was at top 10 QB, 2017 didn’t happen.
Notable one hit wonders
The Matrix
Vanilla Ice
The Philadelphia Eagles
Matrix trilogy was pretty dope tho
Multiple super bowl teams are ass the next year after a super bowl win lmao. We went to the second round of the playoffs of the next year and then a first round exit after how is that being a one hit wonder 😂
@@Cartierz5812 The whole history of the Eagles.
@@Cartierz5812 You also had the benefit of being part of the dumpster fire known as the NFC East where a 9-7 record gets you a playoff spot. You also got to face the Mitchell Trubiskey led Bears. Yeah you guys definitely showed everyone after that win.
@@jcore0981 beat them on a double doink
can you win a game any luckier
It help that when Nick Foles had to come in his offensive coordinator Frank Reich and Pederson were former backup QBs
As an Eagles fan I hope Carson Wentz wins a SuperBowl we did him wrong and he gets so much crap thrown his way he does not deserve
As a Colts fan, I hope you're right.
He did win one in philly he was hurt but he still gets a ring
Dude I love your content. I love football talk and you just hit the right spots. I'm binge watching your videos. Keep it up man. I'm addicted.
I just hope the Bears interview Pederson next year.
If Nick is still there that would rock. They always got along well.
Bro! I LOVE these retrospectives. Will you please do one on the Panthers. We deserve one. Where do we go from here. Do we keep Mccaffrey or go a different direction, will we get Watson, Will we draft a good Quarterback. It's crazy.
Ayo let's not give Pederson most of the credit for the ring. Without Frank Reich they don't win it
The pie chart is 89% Patriots horrific defense, 10% Reich and 1% doug
@@kurtwagner350 I'd give more credit to Reich for A. Getting Wentz to play like an MVP whenever he was healthy, B. Getting Foles to avoid his infamous bad games during the playoffs, and C. Just generally being a damn good playcaller, but yeah the Pats defense did give up 41 to Nick Fucking Foles so I take your point
@@mayitakeyourhatsir8632 certainly a more reasonable response than I’ve gotten from most Eagles fans
Yep that pats defense was the worst they ever had couldn’t tackle for shit.
Again another great video from one of the GOATs in STE. this is content that deserves like millions of views. Can't wait for part 2.
The Eagles literally sold their soul to get a SB. Doug wanted to bring back or hire terrible offensive coordinators to be puppets so that he could retain play calling. It was his fault that he was fired
Eagles just replaced a SB winning coach with a "Yes" man HC, because the front office can do whatever they want regarding roster, signings and draftings without the HC complaining, unlike Pederson.
As an eagles fan Thank you so much for releasing this for making this video. My takes I belive Carson Went is a good QB but diddn’t have a good O-line or receivers, and that Jalen Hurts was better with his mobility (I personally prefer more of dual threat QB so there is me with the QB situation) With all due respect to Wentz I believe Jalen Hurts is the guy of the future (Oh God please let this comment age well). However I feel that a big problem with the team was coaching, the birds would not have gotten the Lombardi without Reich as OC. And to prove my point just look at what he is doing in Indianapolis (they’ll be pretty good with Wentz) it killed me seeing all the failed 4th downs and 2 PT that were constantly happening on the field. So I believe it was good that Peterson was fired, and I believe Nick Sirianni is good HC hire (again plz let this comment age well). But I feel that the biggest issue that Trumps everything is Roseman is management and drafting has been trash and they need a new GM. #FireHowie
Reich made that 2017 offense click but Doug Peterson got all the credit.
Just recently found your channel. Your content is so much better than network sports coverage.
haha the eagles are like my 49ers when we had JIM harbaugh but at least pederson won you guys a SB and didnt lose it.
yeah harbaugh should have never left the 49ers, he build a pretty good team
Things change, but you know what doesn't? The quality of these vids. Keep 'em going, man.
Howie thinks he’s a genius and always reaches with draft picks. As an eagles fan it’s frustrating many fans screamed for dk and Jefferson but he goes with whiteside and reagor also him bringing old veterans back and a high contract. The fact Doug’s play calling and player progression was terrible didn’t help
Wow you really got all the points about our collapse, great video
I think Frank Reich leaving was pretty big
Loved the video! I think you should’ve mentioned the impact of Frank Reich leaving as well. My Colts have been fantastic with him at the helm while not necessarily having the best option under center
Aged like milk
Howie only does good backed into a corner.
One of the best RUclipsrs ever. Keep going @Settheedge
Frank Reich won that Super Bowl not Pederson
Sick editing at 10:11
I get that Roseman has not been great, but Doug absolutely needed to go. His play calling was absent minded and poorly executed. He was like a 12 year old playing madden calling plays. Despite the Eagles running the 6th most plays in the NFL in 2020, we were 22nd in rushing attempts per game. We were also 3rd in Rushing Yards Per Attempt. This may be when the Eagles ran the ball teams were shocked. You could also make an argument that the Eagles had to throw more because they were down more in games. However, the eagles only lost by over a TD 6 times this season.
Doug also was horrible on 4th Down. Despite attempting 35 4th down attempts this season, the Eagles only converted 15 making them 26th in the NFL. These poor stats would convince you to not go for it on 4th down in situations that it wasn't necessary correct. Well Doug with his infinite wisdom still tried to force our poorly preforming, 2nd stringer offense that was hurt most of the year to go for it on 4th in some of the worst situations possible. To frame it as a team firing a Super Bowl Head Coach 3 years after the victory is a little wrong.
Wentz may have been playing like a dingus and the team may have been in a horrible cap situation, but Pederson is the most to blame for everything. If Wentz was playing bad, why did we not rely on the running game. We didn't because Doug is a 12 year old playing madden. Our offense had WR injuries throughout the year and we were starting guys that wouldn't even make some NFL rosters. Yet Doug refused to make any sort of changes until he benched Carson. The only thing that changed with Hurts was Hurts' mobility and confidence. The Doug still barely ran the ball with Hurts, but Hurts could offset the poor offensive line by scrambling. These Scrambles also counted as runs, so Doug was still not calling that many designed runs.
So even though conventional logic would say that a super bowl winning head coach should not be fired 3 years after he won, Doug is a special case who also needed to check his own ego.
Exactly, i get the feeling this guy really likes Doug and so he isn’t blaming any of this on him
A HC can only do so much though, if your talent is lackluster and can’t get it done, then that’s the fault of your GM sucking at drafting and judging talent, not really your HC. Especially considering that said HC just won a Super Bowl.
@@TheUnnamedAssailant the HC won a Super Bowl with a pretty stacked roster and coaching staff which came from the GM scapegoat you and this video speak of, and there have been countless examples through all of NFL history of GOOD coaches elevating a sub par roster through said coaching so why does Peterson get a pass?
Doug Pederson thinks he's a genius too. I would've loved to hear the meetings between Pederson & Roseman. Ego vs. ego.
I’m so surprised you don’t have at least a million subs. Great quality vids
The fact that eagles fans just hungrily lap up whatever bs Lurie and Roseman squirt out is insane to me. Have fun going from sb champ to bottom of the worst division in the nfl.
there is not a single fan of the eagles that is also a fan of howie roseman. people wonder what blackmail he has on lurie. people like lurie. lurie is a owner willing to spend money unlike half the league. the problem is he has a accountant that weaseled his way into being a gm, kinda like what is going on in Huston with their Chaplin running the show, he will be their gm in a few years no doubt.
@@hunter-ii6hx you must not follow the eagles subreddit then.
2020 Season with Doug Pederson was the lowest ranking the Eagles ever had under Lurie & Roseman. Lurie is right to not green light failure & mediocrity. Under Doug Pederson was the first time in over 25 years that Dallas swept the Eagles then the WFT. That was a really bad sign.
Great breakdown! Can’t wait for part 2. Set the Edge is top notch football content. Thank you.
Eagles fanbase after winning a ring: We're the best team in the NFCE!
Eagles fans 2 years late: *silence*
Eagles fans after there team is disgraced and falling apart: At lEaSt We gOt A hIgHeR DrAfT pIcK
Hey gotta be honest as a eagles fan that is so true I don’t know why people say that eagles fans are toxic. Too me I think the eagles fans aren’t unless if your talking about “This is our year” then I understand but I already know that this season we going 4-5 wins maybe 6 and hey that high draft pick can be good for us
@@NinjaDilz3396 i think the main reason is the history you guys have, like the thing you guys are most known for is throwing batteries, that one dude that ate should shit after the superbowl and cheering when a player got injured in like the 80s or 90s. Also the fact that most of the time when theres an online presence of you guys you don’t care if your hated almost seeming as if you want to be, albeit most of that stuff I mentioned is in the past except for the last one, although this is likely a very small but vocal percentage of you guys
@@generalsynch6519 ah ok thanks I didn’t really watch the eagles till the start of the 17-18 season and I said START I don’t want people to think that I am a bandwagon but yeah I see what your saying even cowboys fans are annoying they saying that they have 5 rings but they weren’t even born to watch and or see any of them.
Keep up the great work man! Your work is up there with FlemLo and UrinatingTree
They sacrificed everything to stop Brady from getting another ring just for him to get two more
His D got him one, and being plugged into a ready made team got him the other
I can't believe that Tom Brady held the Chiefs to 9 points. How does he do it?? lmfao
@@mikespongili8254 he played linebacker for a couple snaps during the game
As a life long eagles fan ...you could not have made a better documentary.....really points what the hell happend with this team. Great piece.
1 year later the eagles are in the playoffs with 3 first round picks with one of the brightest futures in the league
Based on what exactly? The playoff appearance was a joke.
Not that bright when you don't have a franchise QB and a subpar team all around that's somewhat old.
They were at the top of the world with that superbowl. Kind of sad the Nick, Doug and Carson are all gone.
Yey we need everyone to bash our Front Office
This is true.
Eagles fan here. Shed a single tear when I saw the notification for this vid.
We got our money back on Carson!!
I love these kinds of videos breaking down the implosion of arrogant teans, so much I clicked Instantly as soon as I saw it!
This aged so poorly in 2 years
As an Eagles fan who returned to watching more frequently in 2016, seeing the intense revival and slow death has been very depressing.
This is the Texans, but minus the success part.
Houston is the Bermuda triangle of the NFL
they won the SB, so where's the 'minus the success part' part?
@@musyarofah1 think he meant the Texans lmao
The last time a coach was fired 3 years after winning the SB or less was not Jimmy Johnson, I can watch your channel :)
I hear that Kendrick Lamar instrumental 👀
STE been putting out bangers recently
early af
6:55 hitting on that many free agents is great but look at Roseman's 2017 draft, Derek Barnett is the only pick you could say was even okay and everyone else was a giant bust.
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Really hoping Saturday's video focuses on what's happened with Reich, Wentz, and Foles since February 2018...
Not that's I'm a Colts fan whose team's success depends on it or anything 😰
:(
I'm a big fan of your channel and an even bigger fan of the Eagles so this content is a win-win