I remember that after the 2018 NFC finals, a Louisiana doctor had offered free eye exams to referees. Probably the best thing to come from that controversy
If the gross no-call PI in the Rams /Saints NFC title game didn't tell you the league wanted the Pats and Rams in the superbowl then it may be time to have the old ears checked.
@@d.w.w.sweetz3008 yeah but they let him walk. I heard he had a 1-year deal with the Packers in 2019 and just landed with Tampa Bay to reunite with Brady.
Elbowbread If he is a Saints fan, then I as a Saints fan, disown him. I hate when people claim that the league rigs games, like if they really did then they are terribly inconsistent with who they favor.
@@nickolololo There's a reason for that bud. You think that hatred for the officials came out of no where? Unless you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years 😂
@@SteamboatSeattle I know. And it ultimately was due to the replay system cause they dumbasses still looked at it in slow motion and still called it a touchdown
@cody2167 "the best" lmao the XFL had better refs and they only lasted half a season. The NCAA has better reffing every season as well. The fact that they refused to overturn blown PI calls proves their ego is more important than the game to them
They should take an example from the XFL and how they had video review refs for each game and that they broadcasted the ruling discussions for the plays
I spent a lot of years refereeing at lower levels, and I am often shocked at the unprofessionalism of the NFL official. Being out of position, not actually seeing the ball, allowing play after the whistle, illogical calls, inability to maintain order or consistency, no concept of causality, and sometimes not knowing their own rules, these are some of the worst issues the officials themselves cause. The NFL compounds this with league "rule focus" to try and pay more attention to an area of previous obvious failure, constantly changing rules, part-time employees, and as was mentioned, bad training.
The transparency is so important! I watch rugby all of the time and every single video review is less than 30-40 seconds and the viewer can hear the conversation between the skyjudge and referee
The problem with refs and Rivieron is their egos are way to big and refuse to overturn any calls because they don't like admitting they were wrong. We need refs without giant egos
12:00 having microphones on referees is how sport outside of america works. apart from soccer, the afl, nrl, rfl etc. all pipe the referees' audio directly into our homes so that we can keep track of the game just as the players do
Man this is a really well made video. I see way too many videos about officiating that say little more than "Ref bad". Its refreshing to see a well researched video on this topic that realizes there's much more to officiating than just what fans see. Hopefully this helps people realize that officiating problems are not only the fault of the refs themselves.
I don't even like football and this is one of my favorite channels. I think that goes a long way to explaining how good you are at making this topic interesting.
I'm a rugby referee, and there are a few things that the NFL (and football in general) could learn its ancestor. 1. The Lawbook for Rugby is quite short (it's barely a half-inch thick) and free to the public. Also, proposed law changes are tried out in specific regions/competitions to see if they improve the game. The NFL has a gameday rulebook that is quite long, not publicly available, and continually has significant changes from year to year, without any testing periods. If the NFL had a lighter book, with gradual rule changes, referees would have fewer decisions to make on-the-field, reducing errors. 2. In international rugby, instant replay is similar to the Sky Judge concept, which is called the "TMO" (Television Match Official). Only the referee can call for a TMO review. Also, TMO is only used in two circumstances: a. Determining if a score is legitimate or not b. If the referee should issue a Yellow or Red Card (Yellow Card = 10 min suspension, Red Card = full game suspension). During the review, the TV audience has a feed between the referee and the TMO. The footage the TMO is reviewing is broadcasted to the jumbotron. This system is fully transparent and doesn't disrupt the game's flow. If the NFL adopted these two principles, I guarantee officiating would be better.
Best job in the world to be a ref. You can call games in your favorite team’s favor (your favorite team being the one that paid you), and if you get called out for it, simple! Fine the bastard who spoke the truth!
The saints were cheated for 3 Super Bowls 1. Saints v rams no call in the playoff 2 missed an easy tackle in the playoffs 3 saints v vikings no call offense of pass interference (push off)
There's a reason everyone was applauding the AAF and the XFL for having a sky judge having someone with the ability to see the slow motion footage and quickly assess and be able to overrule the people on the ground is an amazing asset because it keeps games from being fucked up.
My favorite thing is when a referee makes a shit call that directly affects the outcome of a game and nothing happens to them, yet, when the affected players have something to say about it they are punished for having an opinion
The problem is the reluctance to overrule the on-field referees. No one is perfect and these players are moving at high speeds. I don't get why they feel as if the on-field refs have to be backed up no matter what.
No one expects refs to be perfect on every single play. But they need to be able to correct their calls/penalties on the field when instant replay shows they were clearly wrong. Bottom line - refs need to be held accountable.
Today's refs are no worse than they were 40 years ago. It's just now they're under much more scrutiny. There've always been blown calls, but now due to social media the whole world sees the bad calls.. Take a look at one of the worst officiated games ever, when the refs screwed the Cowboys - back in the 1979 Super Bowl. Just 9 years ago the fickle NFL fans gave the officials a standing ovation after 2 weeks of the replacement refs. You want to go back to those guys?
I miss the days of referee Red Cashion and his trademark "FIRST DOOOWWWWNNNN!!!!" Seems like when I was a kid watching during the 80's the refs did a good job 90% of the time. I think the real culprit is Roger Goodell and his 'vision' of an NFL that appeals to all sexes in order to rake in the money. It's gotten too big for it's own good. Peyton Manning for new commissioner! I really think the XFL with The Rock at the helm will give the NFL a run for it's money in 2022 if he de-Goodells it.
View number 4! Never been this early! Also, happy you found a way to make engaging and relevant content even with the off season and the times going against you. Well done.
I wanna know how a multi-billion dollar sport cant develope advanced technology. Still have refs but have them doing less. We are asking a lot of them so how about invest in making the game better...
The more I watch this channel, the more I’m convinced the NFL needs a heck of a lot of overhaul and reform, starting with breaking the stranglehold the owners have over everything
Unfortunately the owners are the ones who, well own the nfl, so I don’t think there’s much hope for this (especially after seeing how the nfl handled the dan snyder situation)
I work in construction (building automation) and we find high quality subs (electricians, hvac etc) which cost more because they do a much better job than the cheaper guys. NFL referees are a perfect example of “you pay what you get”
I was a ref in high school and me and my crew got so much hate and abuse from YOUTH football we had to call the cops once. It is too easy for people to hate the uniform now
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I remember that after the 2018 NFC finals, a Louisiana doctor had offered free eye exams to referees. Probably the best thing to come from that controversy
If the gross no-call PI in the Rams /Saints NFC title game didn't tell you the league wanted the Pats and Rams in the superbowl then it may be time to have the old ears checked.
Nothing strange about all those refs from that game got promotions... Vinovich is the top on field ref now.
Saints already thinking of Drafting a ref in the 2021 draft
Connor Akers yes
They already did in 2009
@@d.w.w.sweetz3008 yeah but they let him walk. I heard he had a 1-year deal with the Packers in 2019 and just landed with Tampa Bay to reunite with Brady.
ChaosGetter1989 who???
The ref position is deep this year they might even get 2
It's funny how Refs can't see things that the average fan sees even after watching the replay
I'm pretty sure it's pride and an act of defiance instead of them just being blind
no, they can see it. they are jsut told not too by the Leuge to so certain teams win.
@@The_General_Zubas are you a lions or a saints fan
Elbowbread If he is a Saints fan, then I as a Saints fan, disown him. I hate when people claim that the league rigs games, like if they really did then they are terribly inconsistent with who they favor.
In the eye of the storm is wayyy different than sitting at home drinking beer & scratching your balls.
Last time I was this early Johnny manziel had a future
Last time I was this early, the falcons had a blow out SB win and the dawgs was abt to win the Natty
T Nel Last time I was this early, the Browns were good
😳
Benjamin Turner 😳
And rg3 was the next Vic
The best football channel. Theres a reason you blew up like you did. It's like every video is a documentary with incredible editing and narrating.
yep there it is, the lions fan immediately clicking on a ref video ready to spaz
Thank you for the love man!
@@SetTheEdge yeah I love your channel too man. Keep up the good work.
😂
@@nickolololo There's a reason for that bud. You think that hatred for the officials came out of no where? Unless you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years 😂
The referee: blinder than the blind
They are human
Freddy FTW I feel like ref haters have never been on a football field, insanely hard to be perfect on the first call
It was a joke
Freddy FTW thank you! Finally someone understands.
I know it can be real hard but sometimes, they are supposed to be professional
*Seahawks vs Packers Monday Night*
Referee 1: That's a interception
Referee 2: Yeah, you right that's a touchdown.
This game was the NFL lockout which was the referees fault not the instant replay team.
@@SteamboatSeattle I know. And it ultimately was due to the replay system cause they dumbasses still looked at it in slow motion and still called it a touchdown
@@SteamboatSeattle no that lockout was in 2010. This was the replacement refs and the NFL pulling a fast one on us all
@Jonathan Dee The One And Only that's too true dude
thats not the worst officiating mistake though
Just get rid of Riveron and replace him with McAfee on an Xbox controller. Easy fix.
Amen
Oh god, the ensuing chaos would threaten the very existence of the nfl
Hell, even a coin flip would have done a better job than Riveron.
@cody2167 👻booo your comment
@cody2167 "the best" lmao the XFL had better refs and they only lasted half a season. The NCAA has better reffing every season as well. The fact that they refused to overturn blown PI calls proves their ego is more important than the game to them
"Thank you to Manscap...."
SKIP SKIP SKIP
AYE Be glad its not Bang Energy
Or raid.....
We all do it, just don’t tell anyone🤫
I mean I’m still skipping either way so
Five points vids manscaped ads feel so much longer than what they really are
And here we have a wild ref screwing an NFL team
Referees are human
Freddy FTW if you’ve seen their calls you would know they’re not (I’m just joking🙃)
The team seems to be some form of big cat, possibly a lion...
Mr. Sideous it’s stalks it prey waiting to go in for the kill
Mr. Sideous the referee’s biggest rivals are the Lions, the Saints, and Dez Bryant
The intelligence of the refs dissapeared quicker than my dad.
Oof
this meme disappeared quicker than super bowl 51
Bruh
@hangtime 7190 😂
So quick it happened far before you were born? :p
Tbh the refs in madden are worse
if EA can't make a good football video game how do you expect the referees to be good?
*There is nothing to challenge*
@@justbecause7402 isn't 2k making an NFL game in like 2021?
Facemask, some how on ten different players
FulcrumTheBrave yea they are
They should take an example from the XFL and how they had video review refs for each game and that they broadcasted the ruling discussions for the plays
Yes
Probably because the XFL isn't rigged....
XFL? Just a step below Legends Football League. 🙄
That thumbnail 😂
Ikrrrrr!!
Dude, your videos are awesome the presentation, the voice over, everything. Just wanted you to know you're appreciated
Set the Edge: posts
*The Return of the King*
Very well put together video, every team has been screwed multiple times a season, some fans react more dramatically about it, but its still an issue.
What about the patriots
Tbh, Lions fans have every right to be dramatic
Tom Walsh As a pats fan, I can promise you we get screwed over too...
@@chrisscanlon6486 definitely not as much as any other team. Even if your not willing to admit that
@@tomwalsh2260 oh trust me doh we get screwed and I can give you examples.
I spent a lot of years refereeing at lower levels, and I am often shocked at the unprofessionalism of the NFL official.
Being out of position, not actually seeing the ball, allowing play after the whistle, illogical calls, inability to maintain order or consistency, no concept of causality, and sometimes not knowing their own rules, these are some of the worst issues the officials themselves cause.
The NFL compounds this with league "rule focus" to try and pay more attention to an area of previous obvious failure, constantly changing rules, part-time employees, and as was mentioned, bad training.
I think that the more we've gone towards using technology the more we've seen refs get dumber.
It's also having a giant f-tarded ginger suit who knows nothing about the game making the rules. That don't help.
The problem is with that, the rules have gotten more vague. Also, the refs don't have as many angles as we do.
12:15
TPS renamed to Trash
😂😂😂
Holy shit, good eye 😂
@@carmacksanderson3937 lol. NGL they haven't been as good since Mike left.
They are trash to be honest, I cannot stand that dudes voice.
Yeah I caught that too
I remember two referee names from the game Mutant League Football on the Sega Genesis.
"Deaf Blinders"
"I.C. Nothing"
The transparency is so important! I watch rugby all of the time and every single video review is less than 30-40 seconds and the viewer can hear the conversation between the skyjudge and referee
Love the editing and music, you always keep me entertained. Keep up the great work!
The problem with refs and Rivieron is their egos are way to big and refuse to overturn any calls because they don't like admitting they were wrong. We need refs without giant egos
11:36 is that dude using an Xbox controller 😂
9:13 practicing the "no catch" signal
A new Set the Edge video always makes my day!
"Bottlegate!: Gross Incompetence by NFL Officials!"
This is just perfection in a video
11:36 my mans got the Xbox 360 controller
God is back
Damn bro this might be my new favorite video. This was great!
The cole adams!
They should just go to squarespace
12:00 having microphones on referees is how sport outside of america works. apart from soccer, the afl, nrl, rfl etc. all pipe the referees' audio directly into our homes so that we can keep track of the game just as the players do
Man this is a really well made video. I see way too many videos about officiating that say little more than "Ref bad". Its refreshing to see a well researched video on this topic that realizes there's much more to officiating than just what fans see. Hopefully this helps people realize that officiating problems are not only the fault of the refs themselves.
As always a great video.
Amazing video as always! They are always entertaining, we'll written, and professional. Keep up the amazing work my man! 💪
They’re evolving, just backwards -Pewdiepie
Great Video
Thumbnail is savage lmao
Definition of quality over quantity, love your vids!
I don't even like football and this is one of my favorite channels. I think that goes a long way to explaining how good you are at making this topic interesting.
Let defense play defense, damn it.
I'm a rugby referee, and there are a few things that the NFL (and football in general) could learn its ancestor.
1. The Lawbook for Rugby is quite short (it's barely a half-inch thick) and free to the public. Also, proposed law changes are tried out in specific regions/competitions to see if they improve the game. The NFL has a gameday rulebook that is quite long, not publicly available, and continually has significant changes from year to year, without any testing periods. If the NFL had a lighter book, with gradual rule changes, referees would have fewer decisions to make on-the-field, reducing errors.
2. In international rugby, instant replay is similar to the Sky Judge concept, which is called the "TMO" (Television Match Official). Only the referee can call for a TMO review. Also, TMO is only used in two circumstances:
a. Determining if a score is legitimate or not
b. If the referee should issue a Yellow or Red Card (Yellow Card = 10 min suspension, Red Card = full game suspension).
During the review, the TV audience has a feed between the referee and the TMO. The footage the TMO is reviewing is broadcasted to the jumbotron. This system is fully transparent and doesn't disrupt the game's flow.
If the NFL adopted these two principles, I guarantee officiating would be better.
Best job in the world to be a ref. You can call games in your favorite team’s favor (your favorite team being the one that paid you), and if you get called out for it, simple! Fine the bastard who spoke the truth!
Zebras have gotten downright terrible…..
“What is roughing the passer?” *Angry Clay Matthews noises*
Best comment ever
Great stuff man
Now I just get so pissed that with all this technology, my team still got screwed from going to a superbowl
The saints were cheated for 3 Super Bowls 1. Saints v rams no call in the playoff 2 missed an easy tackle in the playoffs 3 saints v vikings no call offense of pass interference (push off)
@@trashatgam3203 how about 2017 nfc championship wit jimmy grahams OPI call from a flop
Hahaha great video man, loved it!
These videos are quality you actually do your research and deliver a quality video
Another great video! Thx from a German Fan of the game and your channel :)
There's a reason everyone was applauding the AAF and the XFL for having a sky judge having someone with the ability to see the slow motion footage and quickly assess and be able to overrule the people on the ground is an amazing asset because it keeps games from being fucked up.
My favorite thing is when a referee makes a shit call that directly affects the outcome of a game and nothing happens to them, yet, when the affected players have something to say about it they are punished for having an opinion
Mr Kraffert sounds very suspicious 😒 and not trustworthy IJS
Last few games they've been great. Shawn Hockuli even flagged a bloodied Sooper Tawmmie. Probably my favorite moment of the last 20 years.
The problem is the reluctance to overrule the on-field referees. No one is perfect and these players are moving at high speeds. I don't get why they feel as if the on-field refs have to be backed up no matter what.
Set the edge, what do you think about the rams new uniforms
Your channel is underrated
No one expects refs to be perfect on every single play. But they need to be able to correct their calls/penalties on the field when instant replay shows they were clearly wrong. Bottom line - refs need to be held accountable.
There he go got my neck thinking ADHD was boutta play😂😂😂
i was thinking hol’ up lmao
That one guy right
How do you not have 1M subs? This channel is awesome
9:10 Yay, Gus Bradley clip! Never forget who built the house Marrone is living in down in JAX
The third creature in the thumbnail is steve Smith sr.
Reject Humanity
Return To NFL Referee
Today's refs are no worse than they were 40 years ago. It's just now they're under much more scrutiny. There've always been blown calls, but now due to social media the whole world sees the bad calls..
Take a look at one of the worst officiated games ever, when the refs screwed the Cowboys - back in the 1979 Super Bowl.
Just 9 years ago the fickle NFL fans gave the officials a standing ovation after 2 weeks of the replacement refs. You want to go back to those guys?
Bring back Ed Hochuli
this channel is amazing!!!!!!!!!
Set the edge and Mikerophone are the most underrated football channels
Well said!!
Your channel and Madden are the two things keeping me going until (hopefully) September
I think what I took from this most is you putting 2 of 2 ads immediately after a Manscaped ad. How intriguing.
1,800 views in 3 hours. Damn, you're good. Love your channel bro.
It's 2020 and I've yet to see a single frame of that ball *ACTUALLY* touching the ground in the Dez Bryant play.
That's because he caught it.
Last time I was this early the Falcons were up 28-3!! 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Did your water break? Was it a boy or a girl ?
I've never been envious of the zebras. Great vid
I actively avoid watching football, but this was still a riveting video. Great job!
I can say this is happening in every sport
This was kind of the funniest thing I've ever seen.
I miss the days of referee Red Cashion and his trademark "FIRST DOOOWWWWNNNN!!!!" Seems like when I was a kid watching during the 80's the refs did a good job 90% of the time. I think the real culprit is Roger Goodell and his 'vision' of an NFL that appeals to all sexes in order to rake in the money. It's gotten too big for it's own good. Peyton Manning for new commissioner! I really think the XFL with The Rock at the helm will give the NFL a run for it's money in 2022 if he de-Goodells it.
10:33 when u talked about coaches causing teams games u had to show Freddie lol
View number 4! Never been this early! Also, happy you found a way to make engaging and relevant content even with the off season and the times going against you. Well done.
Did your water break? Was it a boy or a girl ?
@@drstupid4366 Girl=P
that thumbnail is gold and sums up every ref 😂
Hi good video
I have literally watched every single video! Your videos are so good! Keep it up!
I wanna know how a multi-billion dollar sport cant develope advanced technology. Still have refs but have them doing less. We are asking a lot of them so how about invest in making the game better...
I don’t understand why he has only this many subscribers
They are evolving just backwards
The last thing I need is another commercial
Their response: Pass Interference can no longer be challenged outright!
The more I watch this channel, the more I’m convinced the NFL needs a heck of a lot of overhaul and reform, starting with breaking the stranglehold the owners have over everything
Unfortunately the owners are the ones who, well own the nfl, so I don’t think there’s much hope for this (especially after seeing how the nfl handled the dan snyder situation)
I work in construction (building automation) and we find high quality subs (electricians, hvac etc) which cost more because they do a much better job than the cheaper guys. NFL referees are a perfect example of “you pay what you get”
It is sad and frustrating that every superbowl game there is calls that everyone question.
I was a ref in high school and me and my crew got so much hate and abuse from YOUTH football we had to call the cops once. It is too easy for people to hate the uniform now
I still shed a tear when I see that no call for my saints 😢
Welcome to the Goodell era. Some one should just say it.
Congrats. You went 5:20 before saying the problems name 😂
Such a great channel. Anyone know of any others like this but in other sports?
Charles Dickens: explains how humans evolved from primates like apes
NFL referees: Uno Reverse Card
I still want you to make a video on Tramon Williams 😂
13:25 im down with that.