Rating Trans Met Gala Looks and Reacting To Our Old Styles - Brenemies Episode 2
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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Links Mentioned In This Episode
Met Gala Looks xtramagazine.com/culture/met-...
Trans Artists We Reacted To
Mars Wright marswright.com/
Lakoozi / lakoozi
No Name No Reason / no_name_no_reason
Bandana Boy Vintage / bandanaboyvintage
Cowboycitythrift / cowboycitythrift
Finn hvfnhvfn www.hvfnhvfn.com/
Syd punkirl.com/
Storm Ryan icon.earth/collections/st0rm-...
Our Team
Hosts
Brennen Beckwith linktr.ee/brennenbeckwith
Storm Ryan st0rmryan?...
Artistic Director
CopsHateMoe / copshatemoe
Editor
Alexander Jasper Jay / othergaystoner
Videographer/Photographer
Charlie Ogdenn charlieogde...
Production Assistant
Nickel Magrdichian nickelthesh...
Chapters
0:00 Looking Like Each Other
4:17 Transphobic Trans Guy On Tiktok
21:53 Reacting To Met Gala Looks
32:13 How Our Personal Styles Changed
48:10 Looking At Trans Fashion Designers
55:45 How Clothing Helps Trans Expression
57:17 Thanks For Watching
That’s not Brennen… that’s Joe Exotic.
fr at first i thought it was a joe exotic cosplay
I was thinking the same thing
so true Moe
joe exotic but dressed like an eboy
OMG TRUE
take a shot every time my stories are bleeped
I'm sorry but it had to happen lmao
Sounds like a fun game
@@AlexanderJasperJay good work editing king 👑
Why did I think you meant t shot
Are you challenging my alcholism? XD lol
i heard someone say that elliot was purposefully trying to represent transmascs who are early in their transition and still in those awkward boyish stages of trying to fit into their masculinity and not really knowing how to dress yet - he can afford to get things better fitted to his body but a lot of trans people cannot and so if he was trying to represent that and celebrate early transition i do think that's really sweet and lovely.
idk, like if that’s what it is i don’t know how i feel about it. Something about that gives me “rich people pretending to be poor” vibes. If you have the money and the means to look a certain way but you intentionally dress like someone who doesn’t…I don’t like the implications of that lol
@@saggguy7 You're missing the point though? He's not pretending to be poor.
that would be sweet, but I think it was just because that's what Balenciaga (Elliot was dressed by Balenciaga) has been doing with their suits on the runway lately, I don't think there is any deeper meaning to the fit of the suit. The meaningful part of the look would be the green carnation. If you look up Balenciaga runway mens suit you'll see that most if not all results have that same sort of over-sized fit, and for Elliot it was probably already heavily tailored since he's 5'1.
if anyone gets confirmation that he said this, can you please tag me? I'm surprised that they didn't interview him on the Met Gala carpet, because it would be so interesting to hear his commentary on what they decided to wear.
@@masonmori8669 I agree, from what I've heard that is what balenciaga suits tend to look like (baggy/oversized). Bottlerockk on tiktok pointed out that parts of the suit are not the modern style (the lapel and the single button) this style suit is likely a nod to older styles. That would also fit with the homage to Oscar Wilde as he lived in the late 1800's.
I love how Ryan was able to turn around. It's like he became kalvins worst nightmare it's wonderful to see Ryan mature
It makes me happy! I remember Kalvin video on Brennen, and it pissed me off- even being 16? I think, I was so young, I’m twenty now. I really can’t math
"There's Docs queer people, Vans queer people, and Converse queer people"
Me, owning (almost) all 3 of those brands:
👁️👄👁️
_You are the chosen one_
MOOD
I own Docs and Converse 👀
i need a pair of docs and ill be set lol
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this podcast already did more for the trans community than my goverment ty
China? That's rough. You're living in the next global empire tho, congrats /s
Feel this😔
@@acdeeiprrt 雲 is also Japanese
This comment deserves more angel numbers 222 likes. Divine.
NOO-
Marcus section is just a biker dad and a hipster dad giving their bad behaved trans son a talk
Not the trigger warning before covering his mustache 😂😂
Seeing Ryan's character development is... awesome. I remember i was toxic, watching reaction to trans tiktoks by Kalvin and Ryan and feeling better about myself putting other people down. Glad I am not like that anymore. I remember Kalvin's video making me fucking dysphoric about my eyelashes dude. EYELASHES. I love them now. I love being feminine from time to time.
I became dysphoric of my eyelashes all on my own B')
@@cassleonmarino3437 after hearing so many girls saying " WHY DO MEN HAVE BETTER EYELASHES THAN WE DO " its no worries for me. I love my eyelashes. They fabulous. Girls are jealous.
@@codesofdan9182 My husband has gorgeous eyelashes that make his eyes look like twinkling stars. Every woman we meet compliments him, and he's really started to appreciate something that made him feel self-conscious. It actually makes me sad that men or people who want to present more masculine have been made to feel bad about eyelashes!
i got so dysphoric about little things just because i felt like i HAD to be, in my. transmed kalvin era. i’m so glad i grew out of that mentality!!
@@angerlilli4640 Didn't we all.. I am glad you are also over that phase. Having the mentality of believing the more you dislike/hate things about yourself the more valid you are is a dangerous one. Take good care of yourself.
Apparently the green carnation Elliott is wearing might be a refrence to Oscar Wilde-- he often asked friends to wear them at his plays. Also for those don't know Oscar Wilde was a queer man during the Victorian era, whose career was ended when he was charged with public indecency for his private relationship with another man.
Unfortunately the flower Elliot is wearing definitely isn’t a carnation. (it looks like a green rose to me, and although I was a gardener identifying flowers isn’t my strong suit). It would be very cool if it is a reference though, which I think it likely would be because green flowers are fairly rare, at least in your average garden. If he was representing Wilde though, I’d love to know the symbolism of him wearing a green rose over a carnation!
@@fern-in-wild6919 The rose is the national flower for the United States, so it's an allusion to Oscar Wilde while swapping out the flower to keep it in theme. It's subtle, but I like it.
Can I just say how much I absolutely LOVE you guys' chemistry?! You guys are so fun to watch.. I feel like, for example, Trisha and Ethan's frenemies was 99.9% enemies, 0.01% friends and IMO, it was obvious that the main reason they were doing it was for views.. most of the time, you could honestly cut the tension with a knife. Watching the two of you is truly like you're just hanging out and you just happen to be filming it. Two years ago, I would have never believed it if somebody told me the two of you were going to have a podcast together. Keep it up, we love to see it 🖤
ethan was hardly the problem lol
"Our personalities are very, very simple." valid LMFAO.
"We're going to watch Marcus-"
"Who's Marcus?"
Lmao u guys make a great team. I also loved Storm Ryan's little clothing dance at the beginning
Brennen and Ryan have honestly opened my mind up to some of the true issues within the trans community that I wouldn’t have realized. As a cis bisexual male, this has become one of the most informative shows that I’ve ever seen in regards to the trans experience. Thank you for opening my mind you two. Keep posting content and will always support this show
If you know any trans people feel free to let them know about this show, this show is most of all about healing for trans people especially those like Brennen and Ryan who were harmed by old cissexist transmedicalist concepts being used to harass and divide.
my name is marcus and i'm a trans guy on tiktok so this episode was excruciating to watch LMFAO
Since you guys were talking about trans fashion, I was reminded of the manga Boys Run the Riot! It's about a trans boy, Ryo, finding comfort and euphoria in fashion, and it's one of my absolute favorite series. The creator, Keito Gaku, is a trans man, and the translation and localization staff for the English version are also trans! I'd love to hear you two talk about it (or other trans comics) sometime!
I just read that because you recommended it and it’s great! I couldn’t find a complete translation but what I’ve read was great
YES! Can definitely recommend this 100%
love how half the words are bleeped but brennen’s discussion abt tops and bottoms is uncensored for us all to hear lmfaoo
youtube is weird about what they'll allow to get monetized lmfao but I do love that I got to keep that in
I think it also has something to do with when it occurs in the video, like swearing in the first 30 seconds or so in a video = instant demonetisation apparently lol
I really love hearing Ryan's point of view about people like Marcus. He provided such insight into why someone like Marcus acts the way that he does and humanized him without necessarily giving him a pass for behaving that way. Looking forward to hearing more from Ryan!
for those of you, which i think includes brennan and ryan, who might not know anything about the legacies of these major fashion houses, particularly Balenciaga, its known for simple designs that are slightly off kilter in some way, especially when it comes to proportions and tailoring. i think that ryan and Brennan's theory about why elliot Page's suit fit that way might be partly true, but Balenciaga really is just known for this kind of tailoring in their designs.
Brennen as Ryan gives me Tiger King vibes
i'm getting blonde mario vibes
The irony of me listening to this before remembering to do my t shot aksnjs , but it's interesting because I'm almost 2 years on T and when not binding,,,,,i do not pass. People see my large chest and immediately assume but always recoil when they hear my voice or see that i have facial hair. Best moment was dressing more feminine the other day and an employee asking me if I needed help and me responding then the guy jolting cause my voice was deeper than his.
I got really lucky in the facial hair and voice area, super deep voice and fast growing dark facial hair (thank you sicilian blood) but really unlucky in my body shape. I'm curvy, still have really wide hips and a large chest, i have an hourglass shape. I'm lucky I'm tall for an afab person making me average for a cis dude. Genetics play a big part in passing and it's exhausting seeing folks say that I'm "not trying hard enough" like pal I've been stabbing myself with an inch long needle for almost 2 years now I'm trying pretty hard, ,,
I never thought I’d be mildly traumatized seeing Brennan as Ryan 😂 love y’all 😅
My day has kinda sucked so far and I totally forgot these came out every Friday. What a lovely surprise notification :)
Thank you for doing all you do and making this content for the trans community ❤
47:10 LMAO
"You wore a TRUMP HAT!"
"It was for the fashion"
"Fashion? More like fascism!"
Eliot page is hot. I wasn't into them before they started transitioning (I'm bi so I am still attracted to feminine presenting people) but now idk that T is doing the do damn he looking good
Probably not just the T but like ,,, better energy after coming out if that makes sense
Fr
I feel like a big part is how genuinely happy and confident coming out has seemed to make him
Confidence is super attractive and seeing ppl thrive and grow is also really attractive
@@cfor8129 confidence
@@cfor8129 yeah you're prob right but also like... That jawline tho
26:54 "and hes hot" *stares confidently and seriously at camera*
for some reason, people shat more on Elliot for wearing a black and white tux than the cis men who did it......
in my perspective, Elliot deserves a met gala where he can enjoy gender euphoria in public, then (if he wants to) he can start wearing stuff like lil nas.
"who cares what people think" "i do" me and my dad every 3 seconds whenever he speaks to me
In love with this podcast, it makes me feel comfortable, like I’m just chilling with friends
i’ll defend that elliot page fit til i DIE bro it was artful
I love how we got a peak into his mindset w Ryan’s past
Same. I just love to see how much he's grown and learned from his past.
Suggestion-I noticed you two use the term “pass as male”, I think it’s more accurate to say “pass as cis.” Saying someone passes as male implies that they aren’t already male and they’re trying to look like they are, whereas pass as cis means that they are already male but are presenting in a way that makes them look like a CIS male to cis people. It especially helps for nonbinary people that consider themselves to have passing privilege of a binary gender, but don’t want to say they pass as male/female, because they aren’t trying to look like one or the other
You guys have amazing chemistry....and this podcast is awesome. I'm not Trans but I am LGTBQ and a friend and supporter of Ryan. I hope this podcast is around for many years.
The green flower on Elliot's suit is a symbol for homosexual men that was used when it was still illegal in order to identify each other !!
i grew out of internalized transphobia💪🏼🥶
gg
I just noticed Moe's name in the intro lol.
I LOVE YA’LL SO MUCH!!! ;-;
The theme of this episode reminds me of a manga I read that I'd like to recommend. It's called Boys Run the Riot snd it's about a trans guy who really struggles with dysphoria and he likes clothing and starts a clothing brand with his friends. It's really good.
Thanks for the rec. 💙
tysmmm that sounds great
So idk if anyone has said this but Elliott’s suit construction is intentionally vintage to the time period of Oscar wilds life. The lapel, the stiff shoulders, and the construction is intentionally from Oscar wilds time. So it was an homage through and through. The lapel specifically and the long single button look is very very pointed to the period.
In response to what y’all were saying at 16:30, I think there’s such a massive difference between talking about trans issues all day in a positive manner and actually advocating for the trans community rather than talking about trans people only to make fun of the trans people that look different than you. It’s fine to say “get a hobby” in response to that because it’s so plainly just ego-driven and its only putting negativity into the world. It’s something that I’ve been insecure about, the idea that being trans is my whole personality, but as long as it’s centered around actually caring about trans liberation I think it’s totally fine.
"Your mustache came in pretty good tho" AHAHHSH oh my god you two are the best duo I love this podcast
As a non binary person, my ultimate Transition goal isn't to pass as androgynous or another gender, it's to LOVE myself. I'm not gonna get top surgery to look non-feminine/female, I'm getting top surgery to I can feel comfortable in my body and love myself. I'm not gonna take a balance of hormones to appear more androgynous, I'm gonna do it to love myself. The trans experience is so much more than pain and passing
I'm glad to have something to look forward to on Fridays :-)
EPISODE TWO LETS GOOOO
BRENNEN LOOKS LIKE MARIO WITH THAT MUSTACHE IT'S AMAZING (this is meant as a compliment btw)
I am so genuinely glad to see the shift. I came to the various transmed channels when I was early in my figuring myself out but I am SO GLAD to see Ryan make this shift. It's so cathartic.
you can tell how stoned ryan is in this LMAO
the 3 types of gays: converse, vans, and docs
lmao those are the only shoes I wear 😅
I'm a docs and converse with bright laces gay (current laces in my docs are checkered red and black (NOT LADDER LACED!!!!) and converse are pink and white checkered)
ok last comment I swear. It's also great to see you guys not hating this person, like even tho he's doing some less than awesome things, you're not opening a door to harass him, and I think that's great
actually obsessed
I didn't know we would get a new episode so soon :)
Yall really are brightening up my day
your dynamic together is so nice to watch :') i can't wait to see next week's episode!
Reminder that you are all beautiful, smart, kind, talented, loved,valued and valid! Stay safe and strong y’all. Proud of you
These costumes threw me off for a bit haha. Wayne's world is looking different lmaoooo
I loved this episode 🤙🏼
are you guys ever planning to upload this show on podcast websites like Spotify or something??
I'm gonna save this for later cuz the first second hit me harder than last 5 years combined.
the second I clicked on the video, very first thing I saw, that's when I knew that this was gonna be a good time XDD
Seriously tho, I love how you and Storm have come together on this project. I think it really proves that despite the trans community being so divided, not everyone has to be enemies forever, and that we can come together as a whole.
its honestly so sad because trans people who live their life for cis peoples approval hate their identity and half the time dont even know
Okay I already noticed it the last episode but I really wanna appreciate the bleeping. it's not an annoying bleeb, it's not just silence that confuses me, it's a short "plop" and that's it and I love it, it's the best way I've seen to bleep something sooo thank you AJJ, I assume?
It doesn't sit right with me that conVERSE isn't the vers shoe
it just can't be
I was so confused about the costumes when I saw the thumbnail but now I'm living for them
took one look at brennan and my brain convinced me they were mobius from loki…
This is super fun. I was trying to listen to this while working on a project but I kept looking over because it was so entertaining. Keep it up! And don't worry about it. :)
this podcast series is one of the best things to come out from trans guy youtube, love you both
you didn’t show hunter schafer’s outfit :(
Isn’t it amazing that there was so many trans people at the met gala that we had to cut some outfits for time? Don’t worry tho we’ll be posting extra reactions to the Patreon!
i hadnt even looked at the screen until brennen's mustache was brought up and as soon as i saw it it felt like a wet SLAP to the face
for elliot i heard someone say that balenciaga suits just look like that
this podcast gives me gender euphoria
Thank you both so much for this podcast. I feel like I'm seeing before me what I've desperately wanted out of the transmasc community for so long!!!
Platonic ship name: Bryan. I like this because it used to be my name lol
This really brightened up my day love the prodcast
This made me smile. I'm really happy this podcast is a thing that is happenjng that i get to watch :)
this show is already so important and so good :) keep it up!
I lost it when Brennen noticed the red orange peel hat
Help! I can't stop watching "Fashion?! more like Fascism!"
I’m a trans kid with a transphobic family (I’m currently 16) and for a while when I figured out I was trans I was judgmental like Marcus, but now I realize that everyone has their own experience, and we’re all in this together. We should be building each other up not tearing each other down. I don’t pass yet, because of my parents, but I know that once I start my transition, I will pass easily like Marcus. And I’m just glad that I figured out how to be a nice person before I become an adult
This is already my new favorite podcast 💜
With Elliot Page's suit, it was boxy like that because that's kinda a vintage American style. Kinda sad y'all didn't say anything about the green flower, a reference to Oscar Wilde.
They probably just didn't know and didn't research any looks so it was more about first impressions.
This was an awesome episode!
Commenting for the algorithm. Great show and I’m excited to hear more about trans fashion
I have tons of Docs, vans AND chucks… WHO AM I??? 😭 😂
another phenomenal vid! ur work is appreciated and enjoyed and valued 🖤🖤 keep going and growing :)
good gender expression to cure my depression
The bit at the beginning of pretending to be each other was hilarious 🤣
love this ep & pod so far
The mustache is a good look on Brennan 😂
The moustache and hair combo reminds me of a 70s Australian dad
I look so forward to this omg
this is the best series i’ve ever seen
I'm loving this podcast so far! I really hope yall can have diverse guests on the podcast eventually. That would be amazing.
I discovered you guys today. I am throughly enjoying this.
the section about trans fashion sellers is literally EVIL cause you handed me like 3 stores with my _exact_ vibes and im in torment because i cant buy all of them (sobbing emoji) gonna buy something tomorrow off bandanaboy but like oh my _god_
vintage thrifting fashion my beloved
Hell ye new episode!! This show helps me so much :')
Elliot’s smile 🥺
I kinda wish that you guys didnt spend a segment of of the show kind of only showcasing the opinions of one guy. I like the conversation of passing, and it needs to be had, that its problematic for trans people to “flex” that they pass and that passing is lucky, but I felt like *he* himself was targeted, because the conversation was less focused on what he had to say and more about him. I think using tiktoks, and specific tiktokers as examples as what not to do for the trans community is a great idea, but I just hope more in the future theyre less focused on the person themself and more on what they are saying. Like, I feel like the conclusion of that segment was that he should get a hobby and that will help his opinion on this, and not a solid conclusion to the argument that trans people shouldnt judge other trans people who dont pass as well. Idk, I just hope the People are less of the subject than their rhetoric is in the future. You guys do want to lift up as many trans people as possible, and not bring them down, which you didn’t do but Im worried is possible in the future though.
Great episode though, brenemies has already helped me feel more comfortable in my identity and I look forward to every friday:)
The shoes thing absolutely tracks 😂😭
this podcast gives me so much serotonin
Thank you for this!
OH ALL THE CLOTHES WERE SO COOL!!! so many new people to follow >:0
Currently rewatching all the Brenemies episodes. I miss it, I hope you come back soon!