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    0:00 r/BestofRedditorUpdates - AITAH for disowning my adoptive son since he chose "his people" over us?
    21:10 r/AITA - AITAH For telling my stepdaughter she is welcome to go live with her mother full time because I won't get rid of my Harry Potter themed bookcase?
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  • @carlitavega2314
    @carlitavega2314 Месяц назад +222

    If I'm not good enough for you, neither is my money!! I would still love my child, but I would pull my money from this with that type of treatment.

    • @shelby_lane_
      @shelby_lane_ Месяц назад +42

      I’d tell him to “ask ‘his people’” for the money.

    • @kateajurors8640
      @kateajurors8640 Месяц назад +16

      ​@@shelby_lane_This, that is such a racist and possibly even homophobic.Comment and it must have cut so deep and hurt.So bad especially coming from the child that they saved and raised for years

    • @ladymorrigan5950
      @ladymorrigan5950 Месяц назад +20

      Yes. It’s pretty entitled to expect the people he’s rejected to continue their financial support of the wedding.

    • @uselesscause3178
      @uselesscause3178 Месяц назад +11

      💯! I think it would send the wrong message as a parent if you DIDN'T pull the money support. Otherwise you are just saying it is OK to use people for cash. Not the message or ethics you want to teach.

    • @janicevango5791
      @janicevango5791 Месяц назад +5

      @@shelby_lane_: Exactly, suggest to Jason that he should tell his ‘parents’ to feel free to stump up the money for the wedding. Or failing that, hold out the begging bowl to the flying monkeys and see if they’ll oblige instead.

  • @jessm.porthos
    @jessm.porthos Месяц назад +147

    THE AUDACITY of calling and and wanting the money of the people you didn’t want to be associated with

    • @alexiatr
      @alexiatr Месяц назад +5

      Get the money with the people that understand you better 😂

  • @lillyreyes9028
    @lillyreyes9028 Месяц назад +121

    John is way too nice, saying everyone is the a-hole. No, the adoptive parents aren't the a-holes, their within their right to cancel all things to an event they were fully expecting to be there (especially since it was their adopted son).

    • @frostkilling
      @frostkilling 29 дней назад +4

      As someone who was adopted, you're 100% right. Jason essentially chose his family when he decided to exclude his biological parents who abandoned him over his adopted ones that took care of him. They have every right to be hurt and cut him off.

  • @rclark8688
    @rclark8688 Месяц назад +63

    Im not paying fir a wedding I'm not invited to. You don't have to respect your parents. But you can't expect parent like favors from people you don't respect as your parents.

  • @Ecanbee
    @Ecanbee Месяц назад +106

    There is a point where we all have to realize our parents are just people. And there is a point where we ask them to see us as autonomous adults. 24 years old is old enough to know that what Jason did is absolutely cruel, soul-crushing, and borderline unforgivable. Uninviting your parents who chose you when the parents you were born to threw you away like trash because they are gay is truly disgusting. They loved you, and gave you the stability ripped away from you by the monsters you just chose over them and you have the nerve to expect they will still be your ATM? Jason, if you happen to read this-you’re really screwing up and I fear you will really regret it later on.

    • @alexiatr
      @alexiatr Месяц назад +5

      Exactly, that is not a teenager trying to figure out life. It's an adult about to get married

    • @alexiatr
      @alexiatr Месяц назад

      Exactly, that is not a teenager trying to figure out life. It's an adult about to get married

  • @aliendeer1294
    @aliendeer1294 Месяц назад +71

    Seriously after this and the Rob story I'm really amazed the OKOP gang...your children may always be YOUR children but they eventually become ADULTS and have to take the consequences of their bad actions as ADULTS.

  • @Maykay524
    @Maykay524 Месяц назад +70

    I would have cancelled everything since we are not his parents (according to the kid) but would let him know when he figures out that his “real parents” are crappy people we will be there for him and we will always love him.

    • @alexiatr
      @alexiatr Месяц назад +2

      Exactly, you're paying for your son's wedding, if there is no son, then why are they paying for the wedding

  • @callitags
    @callitags Месяц назад +84

    Absolutely, I'm cancelling things for an event I haven't been invited to. Yes, the son has trauma, but now his adoptive parents do, too.
    If we're going to give Jason room to deal with his feelings, we need to understand how deeply hurt his parents are, how OP seeing the depths of pain in his partner would further increase his pain and anger.
    There is trauma on all sides now. Being a parent doesn't magically make someone know how to handle the abandonment and pain inflicted by their child.

    • @alexiatr
      @alexiatr Месяц назад +3

      Also, they seem to forget this behavior had been going on for months, this was just the "that's it" moment, specially after he let bio parents insult them

  • @shounenaiaddict98
    @shounenaiaddict98 Месяц назад +53

    Jason is def the AH, OP is not at all. I would in fact cancel everything, bc not only did Jason pull away, cancel plans, did not communicate with them, and didn't stick up either at the diner or after for his //real// (adoptive) parents. And if it's "his people" how much of that harmful rhetoric is he agreeing with or assimilating?
    Would Jason still have been that much in touch if they wouldn't have paid for so much of the wedding?
    No way, cancel the wedding, keep an open communication, but that's it.

    • @hesterhelenaprinsloo3500
      @hesterhelenaprinsloo3500 Месяц назад

      😊

    • @alexiatr
      @alexiatr Месяц назад +2

      True, this was not an isolated incident. He has been having that attitude towards them for months. If his people get him better, then let his people pay for everything

  • @coleworld4385
    @coleworld4385 Месяц назад +10

    If kids are allowed, and encouraged, to go no contact with toxic parents… why aren’t parents allowed to go no contact with toxic kids? They can love someone from afar too…

  • @t.bartley5768
    @t.bartley5768 Месяц назад +33

    Can’t help but wonder if the stepdaughter treated her mom the same way and mom finally put her foot down and didn’t put up with the disrespect coming from a child and that is what caused stepdaughter to want to move to dad’s house in the first place.

  • @BrownC0uch
    @BrownC0uch Месяц назад +24

    The opinions of people you’ve never met in your life shouldn’t hold so much power over your mental state. That girl needs to get a grip. It’s a bookshelf - stop projecting.

  • @AhNee
    @AhNee Месяц назад +19

    I'm not about to pay THOUSANDS of dollars for a wedding I'm not invited to!

  • @angel-ke9vs
    @angel-ke9vs Месяц назад +15

    Who the hell would pay for a wedding they are not invited to 😡 Jason needs to understand that actions have consequences 🙄 😒

  • @cheekyweb8055
    @cheekyweb8055 Месяц назад +6

    Why would you pay for a wedding you aren’t invited to John?! lmaooo

  • @heatherfitzgerald.
    @heatherfitzgerald. Месяц назад +6

    ICU he has abandonment issues. Wants his parents to want him more than anything.
    He needs therapy

  • @gemini0316
    @gemini0316 Месяц назад +13

    Here's my take for the first story. OP is NTA. I've heard this saying from another reddit podcast and it is "Pain creates change." Jason needs to feel the right amount of pain to understand that he's a douche bag and did his adoptive parents dirty. If OP had paid for anything thats not helping Jason realize that he's being an awful person. He would probably use that to his advantage. OP did everything right and helping Jason realize he's a crappy person.

  • @moniquedhooghe
    @moniquedhooghe Месяц назад +27

    no ay i would pay for a wedding i ain't invited to.... i cancel everything but keep the door open

    • @andresespinosa6910
      @andresespinosa6910 Месяц назад +5

      The son is the one that doesn't really want the door open tho

    • @moniquedhooghe
      @moniquedhooghe Месяц назад

      @@andresespinosa6910 soon enough he will start missing genuine support and love without bigotry

  • @mstb2023
    @mstb2023 Месяц назад +12

    People don’t change because they see the light. They change because they feel the heat. Cancel those payments and let Jason feel that heat of having to get it done on his own dime. This isn’t being petty It’s absolutely fair. You don’t get my provision while also disrespecting me. Replace gay with black. Would you still expect the adoptive parents to pay?
    No one loves unconditionally. Every one has a breaking point. Denying that is denying a person a very big part of their HUMANITY. People have the right to get mad about their own mistreatment - even mistreatment that comes from their own kids.
    And if you expect unconditional love from ANYONE, you better be willing to be the best version of yourself FOR THAT PERSON. People who ask for unconditional love always seem to be the least deserving of it.

  • @aubreymerrick6917
    @aubreymerrick6917 Месяц назад +10

    Also, Jason shouldn’t get their money bc he intentionally played it. He wasn’t telling them about them not being invited knowing that they’re footing the bill. He manipulated them, let him go be with his bio family

  • @silverwolf6669
    @silverwolf6669 Месяц назад +17

    Comparing OPs situation to Robs situation is a bit dumb when slurs weren't involved or ignored in Robs situation on top of being excluded

  • @TwattWaffleWhitney
    @TwattWaffleWhitney Месяц назад +24

    Story one, Kids need to remember that our parents are people too with feelings .

  • @eclecticraeen
    @eclecticraeen Месяц назад +12

    38:52 the daughter and her father would be going to live with the mother

  • @krislyncastillo17
    @krislyncastillo17 Месяц назад +8

    Jason is in the wrong. Ungreatful. Like seriously his parents will drop him as soon as their is a chance

  • @snaileriepimpson
    @snaileriepimpson Месяц назад +11

    Those poor adoptive parents and that poor kid 😔 they are all sad a holes and it’s such a hard situation that requires soooooo much therapy. I think the adoptive parents must have felt so betrayed and hurt that he was essentially choosing those who abandoned him over those that cared for him, and the dads were covering their hurt with anger. They probably should have stepped away and made an appointment with a family counselor, then basically said hey buddy if we can’t come to the wedding, then we cannot fund this wedding. We are heartbroken that this was your decision and that you weren’t open with us about what happened. I think they could also say like hey, if you can’t let us attend, we will draw up a legal agreement for you to pay us back bc it’s not fair to not invite the ppl who raised you and then expect them to pay it. But I think the most important thing is to get a professional to help bc that kid is experiencing some complex feeling and I’m guessing some emotional abuse and manipulation from his bio parents.

    • @Sleipnirseight
      @Sleipnirseight Месяц назад +2

      THIS. This is the emotionally mature way to handle this delicate, messy situation. Everyone else in these comments is so quick to lash out and burn bridges.

  • @Fiberedfolios
    @Fiberedfolios Месяц назад +8

    The amount of things my brother has done to my dad through his hard phase and my dad as his step dad has always been there, even to this day when he’s 38 years old.

    • @moniquedhooghe
      @moniquedhooghe Месяц назад

      great man

    • @Fiberedfolios
      @Fiberedfolios Месяц назад +1

      @@moniquedhooghe I’m very fortunate to have him as my dad, he’s an extraordinary man.

    • @pikalee3492
      @pikalee3492 Месяц назад

      Exactly, true unconditional love

  • @sherol91
    @sherol91 Месяц назад +7

    OP from the first story should just send the aita link to his son. It's just too crazy that the kid got brainwashed that fast by his bio parents.

    • @TwiggyHetfield27
      @TwiggyHetfield27 Месяц назад

      To me it's not brainwashing. It's the Nature vs Nuture debate.
      His is one example of Nature winning out...

  • @therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar
    @therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar Месяц назад +6

    I’d wait until his bio parents abandon the kid again, but I’d still say not paying for the wedding is reasonable.

  • @uselesscause3178
    @uselesscause3178 Месяц назад +3

    No one should pay for a party they can't attend, much less a wedding. If he has decided the other people are his parents, well, let his parents pay for his part in the wedding. I would pull the money support. I might phrase it differently, as in, we aren't invited. You are disowning US and treating us like lenders. We support you and love you no matter what, so we are respectful of your choices. If you consider them your parents, then you should go to your parents, To take money from people you consider "not your people" is not the ethics we wish to raise our children with.

  • @cindymcghie2461
    @cindymcghie2461 Месяц назад +5

    Cut contact for your own sakes for the time being but perhaps be there for him when the parents abandon him again. Definitely don't pay for the wedding you're not invited to though.

  • @stacifong6839
    @stacifong6839 Месяц назад +1

    I would not pay for a wedding I was not invited to. He basically chose the parents who abandoned him over the parents who raised him. He wasn’t honest with them and they found out about not being invited after seeing a tweet. As a parent myself, I would be devastated.

  • @jinxt
    @jinxt Месяц назад +5

    I get where the step daughter is coming from... but it's not like the bookcase was official merch in which its acquisition financially supported the author in any way, shape or form. The sentimental value far surpasses any *possible* political or moral alignment imo

  • @ProfessorChaosKitty
    @ProfessorChaosKitty Месяц назад +2

    Story 1: I agree that the bio parents are just using their son, and the adoptive parents should leave a door open for Jason to come back.
    Story 2: I think the stepdaughter needed a wake up call, and her dad was the one to give it to her. I'm so glad things are getting better in the family

  • @KylaFuller
    @KylaFuller Месяц назад +3

    I don’t think not paying for the wedding is an ahole thing to do. He has to learn actions have consequences. Words were too much but you’re not required to pay.

  • @kristinfoilhat
    @kristinfoilhat Месяц назад +4

    Totally canceling everything. They arent even allowing them to come at all. Cancel all of it...and spend it on a vacation 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @Ranoldopereztroika
    @Ranoldopereztroika Месяц назад +1

    Next time, leave the kid with CPS and adopt a dog. And yes, betrayal like that deserves block, no contact and definitely no gifts.

  • @sophiacalon3463
    @sophiacalon3463 Месяц назад +2

    He should’ve asked the dead beat parents to pay for it. Let’s see if they’ve changed and help him..

  • @MegaMyown
    @MegaMyown Месяц назад +1

    Absolutely *UNREASONABLE* to expect any human being to be as benevolent, holy, and saintly as Rob. Jesus Christ himself says, “no man is perfect except me…but Rob is a damn close second.” I heard Rob is literally is the one and only person in the JC Apprenticeship program that trains people to be exactly like big JC.

  • @bettebarbosa8130
    @bettebarbosa8130 Месяц назад +1

    An adult does not/should not require parents to pay for a wedding. If you are old enough to play house, support your own party! A legal marriage can be as simple as signing papers in front of a judge. No one is entitled to have someone, parent or not, to pay for a wedding, especially if you disown or block your parents from the wedding.

  • @signalimagination-16
    @signalimagination-16 Месяц назад +3

    32:44 I feel like this girl the daughter has the emotional resiliency of a paper bag. She is associating imagery to an idea, and that every sense of the imagery is wrong, and her unwillingness to be accepting not only goes back on the belief of being accepting of all people which I believe is the aim for the trans community. But she is embodying everything she hates of the community that is not accepting her

  • @sandranadeau6937
    @sandranadeau6937 Месяц назад +3

    The adoptive parents getting that kind of treatment; no way would I then pay for the wedding! The bio donors can step up for once in their kid’s life. He made his choice.
    I seriously Do Not understand why people that have been abandoned would Ever want anything to do with the people that abandoned them. Wanting approval from people who have deeply traumatized you, is Insane! Good if the people later get there **it together, but that doesn’t mean their kids should bend over backwards for them - the opposite should be happening with them bending over backward for approval and they should have been deeply grateful to OP and husband for saving their son!
    That’s my opinion even if Rob would do it differently!

  • @carmy2155
    @carmy2155 Месяц назад +2

    I’m gonna say that the adoptive parents in the first one are not TA. Parenthood is tough work that is rarely rewarded; now factor in the fact that OP took on a responsibility to raise this random kid he has no obligation to, and it makes it so much worse. He took in this kid despite having absolutely no responsibility or relation to, only to have it thrown in his face with homophobia and zero gratitude. You don’t come back from doing something like that - you just don’t. No apologies and love and guilt will ever make up for that.
    I think we need to acknowledge that even parents have a breaking point. Yes, it’s usually much higher than everyone else’s, but even parents hit a point where they go, “f this, I’m out”, and rightfully so. They’re human too. Unconditional love is just a way of saying “you should be a doormat and allow yourself to get stepped on and abused and tolerate it”.

  • @cadiza315
    @cadiza315 Месяц назад

    So major props to the OK story time crew for respecting each other’s work life balance. Even though Sophia would’ve liked the story…Even though it’s her brother.. even though her brother is the one who brought her into it all… Riley and John quickly brought Sam over to the belief to leave her be and enjoy her day off. A great example of setting boundaries and sticking into them. Y’all practice what you preach.

  • @nikitaneti4959
    @nikitaneti4959 Месяц назад +1

    Sam, my dad has the same parenting philosophy and it's his birthday today! Y'all squeezed my heart softly; how beautiful is that connection ❤️

  • @alexiatr
    @alexiatr Месяц назад +1

    Omg, guys. No. Being good parents doesn't mean let your kids do whatever they want with you in hopes that one day they can see you will always be there. The best thing you can do as a parent is to teach your kids their actions have consequences

  • @aubreymerrick6917
    @aubreymerrick6917 Месяц назад +3

    I’d definitely cancel, you didn’t want them as parents you don’t get them as a loan union/ personal bank

  • @animegurl9
    @animegurl9 Месяц назад +3

    1st Story NTA, but maybe the disowning was a bit too quick. Cancelling the wedding stuff is warranted, he doesn't derserve their money if he is going to treat the adoptive parents that way.

  • @MegaMyown
    @MegaMyown Месяц назад +2

    The Harry Potter story: This is a good fucking time to teach that kid that whining, complaining, and constantly expecting people to acquiesce isn’t what’s always gonna work in life. I get the kid may be having it rough, but they expect that if they bitch and moan enough they can get whatever they want. Teach this spoiled brat that not every single demand you make of people will be met. And that even when you love someone doesn’t mean you can nor should you expect them to do every single little thing for you. This kid needs to learn people can hold their own lives, truth, and principles and that although you may not like it, it doesn’t mean they don’t support and love you all the same.
    Also, I agree with John, I believe OP went _a little_ too far with the comment.

  • @nyaradhiambo
    @nyaradhiambo Месяц назад +1

    I feel like the cancellation is scorched earth policy... Ideally, I'd communicate my hurt and then give the wedding as a final gift.
    I think the parent should have applied grace

  • @tiredofitall9213
    @tiredofitall9213 Месяц назад +12

    OMFG! How are we letting the MSM cause anxiety and hysteria! Story #2 didn't even have to happen or get to that point!
    The stepdaughter can't even vote yet!
    Social media is causing a lot of unnecessary trauma😢

  • @tiredofitall9213
    @tiredofitall9213 Месяц назад +5

    #1- NTA #2- NTA

  • @shelby_button
    @shelby_button Месяц назад +1

    Step daughter needs to get a grip. There are going to be hundreds of things throughout her life in the world that she will find offensive. That’s how life works when everyone can have their own thoughts, feelings, and interpretations on things. That does NOT mean that you can make wild demands to be sure you never come across anything that upsets you. If a bookshelf causes her a breakdown, she’s really really going to struggle in life. Hopefully a therapist will give her that wake up call because she is being ridiculously entitled.

  • @daniellethompson7462
    @daniellethompson7462 Месяц назад +2

    The adoptive parents for the kid Jason. I'm sorry. I don't think they should have to pay for a wedding that they are not invited to.. regardless of the kid's trauma It does not negate his treatment of his adoptive parents or justify it so unfortunately No, if they're not invited, they don't need to pay regardless of how that 24 or 25 yr old adult child feels About his bio parents and just because he wants to gain favor with his bio Parents doesn't mean it's okay to shit all over the real parents who gave and sacrificed everything for him, and then act like they should just turn the other cheek and say it's okay, we understand...

  • @KylaFuller
    @KylaFuller Месяц назад +1

    So to make our house your house too I have to make my house like home to me too? The argument goes both ways.

  • @DifferentKindofGlam
    @DifferentKindofGlam Месяц назад

    Commenting on the first story: i truly feel bad for the parents. However, thats the risk we take when we decide to be parents/become a parent. You can lavish a kid with love and everything good in the world and they can STILL hate you later. I adopted my stepchild and though our relationship is great, he might turn around someday and say "You're not my mother". Im prepped for it but i know its gonna hurt. I wouldn't regret loving and raising my kid though, as this couple shouldn't. They did a BEAUTIFUL thing for a child. Though that child abandoned them in an awful way, the true parents (the couple) will not go unrewarded by life. OP mentioned that they have had a great job for years, i feel thats part of the reward of Life for being kind unto a child.

  • @sarahrodriguez7101
    @sarahrodriguez7101 26 дней назад

    Kids are not entitled to their parents money or for their parents to pay for their weddings. If you’re going to disown your parents and the parents have every right to take their money back from the wedding. I think OP is the jerk is when he said, you are no longer our son. I think a conversation with the son and letting him know that if you do not want to own us and we are going to drop out of this wedding and that includes our money. If you cannot be proud of who we are as parents and everything we’ve done for you then we will let you do what you want without us. We love you and we wish the best for you and if you ever need anything and want to reclaim us, we will be here.

  • @Fluffycara
    @Fluffycara 4 дня назад

    Omg I listened to this story from another reddit story channel who really went off on Jason. I'm from a transracial adoption and I heard your takes on adoption before from another story. Really thank you so much for acknowledging the nuances and trauma of adoption. Your takes were spot on. If your love eventually comes with conditions then it was never unconditional in the first place.

  • @ellanasteampunkferret4929
    @ellanasteampunkferret4929 Месяц назад +2

    I honestly wish I had a better mom or just parent situation. She cared more about her religion than her family and as soon as me and my older sibling came out as part of the lgbtq community, we got kicked out, no questions asked (dads were not in the picture at the time)

  • @AA-qt1hi
    @AA-qt1hi Месяц назад +2

    How is EVERYONE the a-hole??? Guys....you're not being practical. What trauma prevents you from seeing where you are loved and wanted as opposed to some users. That's just enabling his weak sauce mentality!!! How is he not appreciative of the family that raised him? He either formed a connection with them or he didn't but he should by NO means use them for his wedding. The audacity of the heartless man....to expect his adoptive parents to pay ...and they can't come to the wedding? He threw them away as easily as his foolish birth parents threw him away. Let them pay for the wedding! It's utter rubbish. OP is NOT the a-hole. The birth parents abandoned him like trash on the side of a road! What the actual hell?

  • @ily._.1133
    @ily._.1133 Месяц назад +1

    WTH you guys would still pay?!! That’s all that kid wants, once his wedding happens he will cut his parents out of his life for those useless bio parents.

  • @malenehammersinfokanal1567
    @malenehammersinfokanal1567 Месяц назад +2

    It seems that abandoned children Are broken When it comes to seeking attention from their bioparents, and This is what we should expect to happens if its not been healed

  • @black-wizard-zeref
    @black-wizard-zeref Месяц назад +3

    I say it 11:55 NTA the kid is a grown up if he’s gunna get married so he’s bad guy he knows what his deadbeat parents did. Soooooo NTA and I say it disown the brat n public how he’s been n what he’s done

  • @gabriellehoadley7221
    @gabriellehoadley7221 Месяц назад

    Ugh! Yes! I needed this! Gotta finish up my work day and yes, I do run out of your content! Love listening to you guys over any other podcast/you tuber ❤❤

  • @jessicat2519
    @jessicat2519 Месяц назад

    Put the bookcase in the bedroom! I hope there is space there.

  • @EsacpadesOfTwo
    @EsacpadesOfTwo Месяц назад

    Story 1 NTA. I would have cancelled what I could get refunded but left the rest. Also leave the door open for future communication, his people will definitely betray him eventually and OP needs to be there to pick up the pieces, that’s what love is.

  • @caitlinjones8716
    @caitlinjones8716 28 дней назад

    Don’t think this is completely comparable to the rob story,,, the 24 year old seemed 100% aware of the intentional distancing and had the audacity to come to them for money, but not want them in his wedding. At least in the rob story she was obtuse and once she realized her wrong doing immediately wanted to make it right. I think it’s wild to expect someone to pay for a wedding they aren’t invited to.

  • @stellac3047
    @stellac3047 12 дней назад

    Nta, the son knew he would have to choose between parents and kept putting off telling the truth to get the wedding paid.

  • @tessagraffis5127
    @tessagraffis5127 Месяц назад +2

    I would not fund an event I wasn't invited to. That's crazy.

  • @readerunite
    @readerunite Месяц назад

    Cancel everything except one or two major items. These are the wedding gifts for their son and his bride. His bio-parents can pick up the rest. Sadly, the only learning experience that Jason will receive is when all of his money and wedding gifts are stolen from his bio-parents. Absolutely there needs to be an at home conversation with Jason and his bride telling Jason that maybe he shouldn't be getting married now. He isn't strong enough to be his own person by telling his bio-parents to be respectful of his parents. Jason is loved and the parents will be there when the bio-parents drain him of everything and ruin his life again. The bride needs to have support in her opinions as well. She may agree with Jason's parents and dislikes bio-parents.
    As an adopted child, I understand why Jason desperately wants to be loved and admired by this bio-parents that he believes that it was his fault for being abandoned. It makes me sad that so many adopted children carry this abandoment issue and they can't see how much better off they are/were with their new family. Clearly Jason ended up being loved and cared for while these awful bio-parents literally left him on the side of the road to be murdered or sold. Tell those jerks that dare text or call you about how awful you are being that if they believe you are wrong in pulling out of the wedding you are not even being invited to then they can pay those bills. Also, block those numbers. The audacity.

  • @allietv620
    @allietv620 Месяц назад

    Imagine expecting anyone to fund your wedding and you plan on not inviting them … ummm the audacity. It doesn’t matter if that was his parents or uncle or aunt… anyone… that is unacceptable behavior for any relationship dynamic.

  • @rangertuck9158
    @rangertuck9158 Месяц назад +1

    I cant listen anymore. first story is heartbreaking and there is no update.

  • @memmalarkeygaming7152
    @memmalarkeygaming7152 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve been completely torn on Harry Potter for a long time until one of my close friends in the LGBTQ+ Space and also longtime Harry Potter fan also believes the stories belong to us now not J. K. Rowling… I felt bad my mom bought me the deluxe edition of the Hogwarts Legacy game as a gift, but then I thought the devs deserved to show off their hard work and personally I found the game fantastic my mom watched me play through it and we really enjoyed it. In this day and age of uncertainty and despair if I’m crucified on the internet for enjoying something that gives me joy that comes from my childhood then so be it. JK rolling hurt all of us, but it’s no excuse to attack other people and act just as bad as her.

  • @Sleipnirseight
    @Sleipnirseight Месяц назад +1

    14:45 Agreed. I would approach this in the same way you would approach someone in an abu'sive relationship or cult...
    Those bio parents will show their true colors to the child eventually. I mean, they already have with their treatment of the adoptive parents, but it sounds like they're pretty manipulative and the "kid" is still entangled in their web. But if the adoptive parents burn that bridge, it leaves the kid feeling like they have no way out when the bio parents get worse (which they will, based on what we've heard here). It will be harder for him to break free from their clutches.
    That said, be open and honest with him about why his actions are hurtful and a betrayal. And don't immediately start bad-mouthing his bio parents, as that will cause him to pull away further. Instead, in these types of toxic situations, it's best to ask him questions about how they are acting. Such as, "do you think it is fair for them to ban us from your wedding? Why?", or "if it were your choice, would you want us at your wedding?"
    Asking the victim of this type of manipulation to share their own wishes (without judgement from you) can help them really open their eyes and start distinguishing between what THEY actually want versus what others are telling them they want.
    Disclaimer: Reserving judgement on the other person's decisions is NOT the same as also sharing how their decisions impact YOU and how that makes YOU feel. That is an important distinction every person should learn and practice as basic, healthy communication. And both approaches should be part of dealing with this type of situation.

  • @PhDofUselessNawlige
    @PhDofUselessNawlige Месяц назад +2

    !!!ITS NOT PETTY!!!
    clearly these 2 are not thinking very clear or something. These dads did EXACTLY as they should've.
    Why would yoy pay for something when you were not invited? I would cancel. Im not paying bc i raised you AND YOU EJECTED ME FOR THE PPL WHO TRIED TO KILL YOU.JASON DIDNT CARE ABOUT DADS FEELINGS AND SACRIFICED DADS FEELINGS FOR BIOLOGICAL MOSNTERS. WHO HATE THAT THESE PEOPLE FOUND SAVED AND RAISED THEIR BABY THEY ALMOST KILLED.
    Here is the thing;
    These monsters are most likely vultures and would feed off Jason and the dads if the dads keep supporting.
    jason needs to see what life looks like without dads. Truly.

  • @nicolesubritzky6427
    @nicolesubritzky6427 Месяц назад +18

    First story, i think it's reasonable not to pay for a wedding you're not invited to. But it is unreasonable to cut off your son. Make it clear you love them, that they will always be your child, and they will always have a space in your life. Kids are a forever kind of thing, not a until they really really really hurt your feelings kind of thing. Make it clear they hurt you. Make it clear they are acting badly and you're not going to support their bad behavior. But don't ever make them feel like you don't support them as a person.
    And obviously, offer them therapy. It seems like you can afford it, so offer them therapy.

    • @dwightsmith1123
      @dwightsmith1123 Месяц назад

      No that's not how this works kid. He's a full adult and he's decided to not only take the side of his racist homophobic tweakers that left him on the side of the road over the people who raised him and provided for him. And then he doesn't invite them to the wedding that they were paying for. Once your kids are adults then they need to take responsibility for their actions. It's absolutely nonsense to say they have to deal with this garbage son and his garbage parents. He's not their kid in the first place and he clearly thinks the same.

    • @claravignaud8119
      @claravignaud8119 Месяц назад

      Parents should be able to go LC or NC too as they remain humans.

  • @GreenBean3141
    @GreenBean3141 Месяц назад

    No adult children are entitled to their parent’s money. If you’re taking advantage and using your parents all while crapping on them they have the right to say no more help from us. We do not have an obligation to help our adult children!!

  • @jeimerehughes4877
    @jeimerehughes4877 Месяц назад

    If they aren’t invited to what they are paying for why not cancel? Peoples deep rooted traumas does not permit them to treat the people who have been there for them like crap.

  • @mjmage33
    @mjmage33 Месяц назад

    Jason's adoptive parent op is an asshole for saying he isn't their son anymore. But op is totally fair in cancelling everything they put towards the wedding if they're not invited.

  • @klsmuddluvr
    @klsmuddluvr Месяц назад

    I'm also a huge HP fan. I grew up with those books and the media behind it. Recently played an HP themed DnD game... my dm made JK the big bad guy, it was great. :)

  • @annestocks239
    @annestocks239 Месяц назад

    I appreciate your trauma informed comments! Nice to hear more informed opinions.

  • @alexiatr
    @alexiatr Месяц назад

    Girl, the one that is trying to figure out yourself is a you journey, not everyone else's. They can be supportive but thry don't have to change their livelihood for you, specially if not even you know what you want. And having disagreements is not an excuse to disrespect, on that there has to be firm boundaries

  • @sarahyap6514
    @sarahyap6514 Месяц назад

    Oh please, it wasnt a breakthrough. The daughter just realised she cant bully her step mom anymore when her dad set her right. She took a U turn very fast
    It cant possibly be just because she found some ‘similar experience’ that she suddenly felt connected and even throw her harry potter ban out the window when it was the sole thing that caused fights for months.
    It was never harry potter or jk rowling issue, she just wanted to fight and see where is the limit until her dad put down his foot.

  • @Maedansan
    @Maedansan Месяц назад +1

    the kid would just use the parents atm. Rob situation is different as the boo father was not manipulating or homophobic. This is different he actively chose two shit heads who in acutely attempted murder on the son.. he is not absent minded he is actively hurting them and the punishment fits the crime.

  • @sharyebethancourt3660
    @sharyebethancourt3660 24 дня назад

    37:26 this entire comment was spot on!
    I also agree that this is generational cuz as a xennial, there’s no way I would’ve gotten away with this and my mom is also LGBTQ+
    See: the clock without any numbers when I struggled with telling time lmfao

  • @Nisusrn
    @Nisusrn Месяц назад

    The adopt parents are not the AH. Many people would do the same, unless you are a doormat and likes to be taken advantage of.

  • @yogurLAPIZ
    @yogurLAPIZ Месяц назад

    Some people come together when they have an enemy in common. I bet the parents made it seems like the OP and husband take him away of his family or prevented to meet them sooner. I don't think paying for the wedding or anything will make the son change his mind or grow. Why? Because he takes his parents for granted. Why he was surprised of them cancelling everything? Because he expects them to see him as a son but he doesn't see thte need to be good to them because he expects them to be there no matter what.
    Some people learn when people leave and not when they stay and the son showed he will mistreat them and bully to give money or what his trash prarents ask for.
    Don't stay to find out how disheartening some spoiled adults can be.

  • @sophiacalon3463
    @sophiacalon3463 Месяц назад

    First story, NTA. The son prioritizing the people who are so nasty to the people who raised him is ungrateful. How would he then assume his dads would still pay for a wedding they’re not invited to for an homophobic couple’s confort. His parents are his dads, not the people who left him being when he was inconvenient.

  • @exceptionally_ordinary
    @exceptionally_ordinary 15 дней назад

    Me watching this from the phone with the Harry Potter case on...

  • @ramblingsofamadmystic3050
    @ramblingsofamadmystic3050 Месяц назад +5

    I think if they aren't invited, they should not pay for the wedding, but abandoning him back is the a-hole move.

  • @Fiberedfolios
    @Fiberedfolios Месяц назад +8

    Normally I agree with separating the art and artist however JK has made it clear that she views any purchase and enjoyment of her material is considered confirmation of her views… so I agree the bookcase can stay cause it was made by an artisan not benefiting her. I don’t wear hp merch out and have put my books aside to respect everyone.

    • @bbdrgn
      @bbdrgn Месяц назад +2

      I mean, sure, but they're gifts likely bought long before jk made her stances known. Also, i mean like okay, sure, buying stuff she gets money from fair, but that doesn't explain the hogwarts legacy drama where she didn't even make ANY money. People hate having anything related to Harry Potter irregardless of if it pays her or not, and i think that's dumb.

    • @littlelavilion9795
      @littlelavilion9795 Месяц назад +3

      @@bbdrgni think it is because deep down the world she has crafted is rooted in a lot of nasty concepts. She’s personally made rlly racists statements about wizarding schools outside of america and england.
      In my opinion her wizarding world is so deeply entwined with nasty things that you can’t remove the artist from the art but that’s just my thoughts on it.

  • @rebecculousrk
    @rebecculousrk Месяц назад +1

    I completely called the homophobia early, just like Sam. Cancelling the wedding was 100% justifiable, but I have to wonder what the 19 years actually looked like; because had they worked toward healthy, loving communication and learning to handle our emotions in a healthy way. When he began to pull away, were there conversations about the influence of the bio-family? I don't think I would have waited until the disastrous dinner to examine what was going on. Sam, I was THRILLED to hear you quote Kahil Ghibran 'On Children'. So cool. #2; The art/artist debate is difficult. I would argue that, especially in the case of something as widely consumed as the Harry Potter franchise, people have their own relationship with books and films. If you didn't know about JKR's politics eit would never affect you. Nothing in the actual books is transphobic.

  • @uumadina
    @uumadina Месяц назад

    You guys are too good. I think OP is within their rights to cancel/withdrawn their financial support. 24 y.o is still young but not THAT young. Jason made his choice, his people. The same people who abondoned him when he has no way to fend himself.
    Rising a child is not easy nor cheap.

  • @doctorj6030
    @doctorj6030 Месяц назад

    Why would I pay for a wedding when I am not invited to the wedding. I would not have closed the door on my son , but remember your don is associating eith people who disapprove of you for being gay.

  • @kboonly
    @kboonly Месяц назад

    One of the first 5hings I learned is PROMISES ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN! So far everyone in these stories are literally CRAZY. Grow up. The adoptive parents were correct and the step shouldn't have to move the book case. Those are entitled brats.

  • @yenvogeltje9075
    @yenvogeltje9075 Месяц назад

    I would cancel everything !

  • @DuchessCassanda
    @DuchessCassanda Месяц назад +1

    34:44 'shelve things' ba dum shh!

    • @jacymo
      @jacymo Месяц назад +1

      I mentally said the same thing when that came up 😂

  • @marilynvegamaldonado4852
    @marilynvegamaldonado4852 Месяц назад

    OP is not the AH. He choose his blood parents, they can pay the bill. I think is unfair to the adoptive parents.

  • @PrincessAshley-Kawaii
    @PrincessAshley-Kawaii Месяц назад +1

    Didnt feel like the first story had an update?

  • @dinosaurrawr2106
    @dinosaurrawr2106 Месяц назад

    man i can relate to john harry potter moment so much. I think we share the same birthday lol. So on the 7th book release, july 21rst at 00:01, so july 20th, i went with a friend to see hairspray crying over my breakup, just trying to feel better and we had pre-ordered the book to have it as soon as it was out, so after the movie we had the long wait and line up, and finally t midnight able to get the book go home and start reading. we had polyjuice at the store, they had owls and what not ah good times

  • @ayiza8511
    @ayiza8511 20 дней назад

    I will always love Harry Potter it was the first book I’ve ever read by myself. I remember meeting the twin actors.. and buying all the books.. jk Rowling and her opinions about trans people are not gonna ruin my love for Harry Potter