SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH." AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
@@nihangninja4201 Religion progress together with science, the development of science is contributed by religion. So merely, you who don't believe in anything. Is empty in your box
@@NavinDhyani It’s not a foreign language to the Indian Christians.. it’s the language of the early Church and of our forefathers.. many Syriac terms have gone mainstream in Malayalam as well..
In the past, they ruled your ancestors with their guns because your ancestors were weak. Now, they rule your minds with their roses (for your graves) and their bibles because your are stooopid.
I was fortunate to visit Saint Thomas' church in Chennai in 2017. It was right after Christmas too, so it was adorn whit so many colorful banners and decorations. Such a fascinating and illustrious history! I will visit Spain's Santiago de Compostela this year, after which I will have been to all three churches built over the remains of the Apostles.
I am American of Iraqi Christian Chaldean Catholic lineage. I’m a fluent speaker of the Aramaic language, no reading/writing, in fact I don’t even know the alphabet. Currently, is spoken mostly by the clergy, church choir, etc not of the average person and dangerously close to extinction. Any Christian knows it’s our lord’s spoken language. I speak the “Chaldean” dialect, Jesus spoke the “Galilee” dialect nevertheless it’s the same exact language, same alphabet (22 letters), same words, same writing, same sentences, grammar, same exact book, text, etc. kinda like an Indian from Kerala Hindi speaker to a North Pakistan Hindi speaker. Haven’t done much research in this area, my ancestors were the first Christian COMMUNITY in the world, when being a Christian was dangerous business. Yes my ancestors were evangelized by St Thomas himself, then en route to India and fairly sure St Thomas was accompanied by Aramaic speakers of Mesopotamia to spread the faith in India and beyond. A couple weeks ago, I watched on RUclips a mass in INDIA fully in Aramaic ! Even had an entire choir of young Indian men and women not just speak it, but were singing hymns in Aramaic from a book ! If you’d like to look it up, just input here on RUclips (Chaldeans Aramaic India) and you’ll see plenty, some say up to 2 million Indians are Chaldeans or someway somehow the Aramaic language or something, sounds like a very high number, but again not so high considering India’s population of 1.2 B It’s the same language spoken by Mel Gibson’s movie (2004) “passions of Christ” superb acting by Jim Caveziel and at the time it was the highest grossing movie ever. The sad part is they were shunned by Hollywood and the actor Caviziel knew he’d never find any acting work b/c of its controversial you know whom that influenced the Roman governor Pilate, there’s to be a sequel to come out in 2024 called the “resurrection”. Peace ✌️ to all Indians regardless of faith, belief, sect, religion just so as long as it promotes, love, peace, forgiveness, patience, resilience and harmony amongst the masses.
I am a Chaldean syrian christian from Thrissur,kerala..we were once the major christian group at one time but now a minority. Its true most of them dont know the historical importance of this community and now in the verge of extinction.
THIS SAINT THOMAS THING IS A LIE. THERE IS NO PROOF IN WESTERN TEXTS THAT SAINT THOMAS CAME TO INDIA . IT IS MENTIONED THAT HE WENT EAST- AND THAT EAST IS SYRIA AND NOT INDIA
@@toocooltocare1444 Do you have any evidence to suggest that he did not go further east? Or are you just speculating? One things for sure. The presence of Christianity in Kerala is older than a thousand years.
@@tijojoseph3315 I am not speculating. The portugese were expert in creating stories like this. These stories were used to convert people into christianity, read the book by DR Nagaswamy on thirukural. Also, read texts by western travellers who came to india, they never mention arrival of St thomas . ST thomas definately went east but he never came to india. They made up the st thomas theory to show that everything good in south indian culture is taken from christianity while everything bad is from hinduism. Apart from DR nagaswamy you may refer to Rajiv malhotra's book breaking india, on page 88-89-90, you might find convincing answers. Also, if you wish you may read the pages ahead too. Though i would say its unfortunate that ST thomas went to syria and spreaded christianity there , But today syria is an islamic country which faces terrorism.
@@toocooltocare1444 If you don't know the culture, history or traditions of Kerala, why do you bother commenting? Yes, there are converts from the times of the Portuguese a few hundred years ago, but the majority of Christians in Kerala follow rites that have origins in the Middle East. There are also (few in number) Anglo-Indians like my fiancée with Portuguese paternal heritage. Kerala was a major trading destination in the past, so this shouldn't be surprising. I'm not saying for a fact that St. Thomas did come to India, but my point is that Christianity in Kerala was practiced in the state before the arrival of the Europeans.
Why fool Indian culture and Indian people? why does church looks like temple and follow Hindu traditions ? Stop cultural appropriations, either run church as church or be Hindu and live Hindu lifestyle in 2006, Pope itself told the world that no Thomas did not visited India and there is no Genuine records expect missionaries narratives Mylapur santhom church was build on top of original mylapur kapaleeswarar Temple anyways its fine to follow any beliefs because Hindu culture of this land embrace it unlike any Islamic or Christian nations. However the problem comes when converts starts hate and run anti Hindu missions in our land! save our land from missionaries and foreign genocidal culture and church mafias'
@@abeljoshua170 Ha ha😂 All cooked up like the BIBLE was cooked up. The main sources relating to Apostle Thomas are two Gnostic (non-Biblical) texts known as the Acts of Thomas and the Gospel of Thomas. According to them Thomas was the twin brother of Jesus. For this reason the Thomas myth is not accepted by the Vatican because of a doctrinal problem: Jesus as the Only "Son of God" cannot possibly have a twin brother. (Greek for Thomas is Didymus, which means twin brother.) In fact, there is no evidence that Thomas even existed. His “history” is full of contradictions.😁😂
@@p.kprasan5356 lol you don't even know the history Vatican didn't proclaimed any such things on their ccc didimos was the name of Thomas before becoming the disciple of Jesus and there is enough historic evidence of Thomas arriving in INDIA 😂😂so before commenting study history.Dont come with maked up stories we all people are staying India unitedly some of Hindus not many thinks that we are outsiders but we're INDIANS and we'll always be INDIANS
I come from an army background family. Have seen so many syro malabar Catholics in indian army. Thankyou for everything my dear indian catholic community. Right from setting up educational institutions to being such well behaved and progressive minority I have always loved you all. Jai Hind
@@isckoniover3129 If we were Insecure like the Christians, we would have built a cult like them, and invaded every non-hindu land in the name of Krishna, and in this 21st century we would be using money to luring people to join.
This was phenomenal! After the inspiration of watching this video, I've decided to do a paper on this community for my university. You better believe this will be cited :) !!!
Thank you for sharing historical information of Christianity in India. I am from Church of the Nazarene in India. Let all Indians irrespective of religions, thank God for sending His disciple St.Thomas to India in AD52.
Jesus said 'I am the son of God, father forgive them they don't know what they are doing'' Jesus himself told it and people like you with half knowledge declare him God. Only lord Krishna said I am complete, I create entire creation and enter creation immerge within me. In the west people left Christianity and missionaries came here to promote their narrow-mindedness. According to the bible, the earth is flat, only two ways after death one permanent heaven and another permanent hell after death, they bury the dead body to preserve it till judgment day who fear and believe Jesus and his father get eternal life with the body they bury. What a narrow-minded belief people are following without knowing it.
@@iamq1901 In South East Asia, people left Hindu. What is really ur point? These countries give people choice unlike ur place. Your deity's claim from your book is not important for us. And no, bible never explicitly claimed the shape of earth.
@@BoSS-nj1qzEveryone has the right to choose what they want to believe personally......but, not at the cost of defying and ridiculing other's existence! The missionary work and Abrahamic ideology fundamentally claims to be the one truth as oppose to ' False ' gods.......Ironically, it itself hails and consists of many belief systems of pre Christian or Abrahamic era ......!! Right from belief in Angels to Santa and what not ! That is what is problematic
Thank you for doing this video. I am a Keralan Christian who lives abroad and I have to explain the church history because not a lot of people know the history even in the Christian circles. I am proud of my Indian Christian heritage 💕
There is no proof bruv, go and read about the Goa Inquisition and the destruction caused by the so called saints who were responsible for murdering Hindus and destroying temples and converting them. Christianity has no culture. The Onam festivals and Pongal festivals is a Hindu festival too. So Christianity is basically a fairy tail and a cult
The why - St Thomas like the other twelve were mandated to bring the Jews into the faith, not as Christians but as Jews believing in Isaiah 53. In those days Kerala had a big number of Jewish people that is why Kerla - Muziris was on the list/radar.
You are totally correct✔ 💕 I'm a Christian and know the truth about the Jewish community settled in those parts 💕and no Malayali people as they were not before 2000 yrs before 😁💕
@@jeyakumarm1912 you all much watch out for the appearance of a shard with a bible phrase in ancient Hebrew - that will prove the fact. there will be no more arguments or doubts.
I'm a Catholic from the Philippines. I learned that Christianity in India is older than the Christianity in my country because of St. Thomas the Apostle.
Should have mentioned about 7.5 churches established by St. Thomas. As a descendant of St Thomas Malankara Orthodox Church, I’m so happy to see this video and suggest a bit more research to be done with Kerala christianity.
@@NativeVsColonial what's wrong in a rice bag It simply shows how shallow the previous community was that one of them was dying of hunger that he had to convert religion for food Thank God that person became Christian 🙏
@@pravarsharma8029 Caste is not Indian, it's a superimposition of Spanish/Portuguese caste system and English Class system on India, with the objective of dividing the natives and use them against each other while English hold power and work as a mediator.
@@StorytrailsChannel There's not even any evidence of him existing. The ritual of killing people to show you are superior religion is of abrahmic religions like Christianity and islam. Hindu don't show their superiority this way. They do it by yoga, meditation and other which really help people. Stop spreading lies in the name of jesus christ.
SAINT (SANSKRIT:SANT) THOMAS NEVER VISITED THIS COUNTRY. SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH." AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
Love to story telling involved. Appreciate your effort in bringing these "stories" to us - you have our heartfelt thanks. I learnt something new today about Christianity and India.
A merchant called Thomas Cananeus visited India but majority of christians like think the Apostle visited. MISSIONARIES converted Hindus by offering a bag of rice & the term "rice bag converts" stuck.
@@p.kprasan5356 it's so shameful to see someone like you actively spitting bullshit and fake news about Christianity at this elderly age... That too even watching the entire video 😂😂 Mister!! Fascist RSS is not the place to learn about Christianity!!! There are 9 churches built by St.thomas in India (specially in Kerala) even archeologist have accepted that all these churches in Kerala date back to AD 53.. if you come to Kerala.. You can find that 90% of RCSC(Roman catholic Syrian Christians) had brahminical ancestors..and had well-off economic background.. Even now Christians in Kerala are majorly from well- off economic background... FYI rice bag convert it's a fake terminology used by fascist Sangh Parivar 💩.. It's equal of us terming Hindus are gobhar bag convert (as you didn't accept Jesus Christ as true God but to reverted to stay back in your cow religion for a bag of cowdung offered by your sadhus) Stop using that fake terminology and stop being a fool!! When you saffron bigots can falsely call as a rice bag converts..we have the right to call you as gobar bag convert!💩😂... Btw weren't there any Hindus to give a kilo of rice to their fellow Hindu brothers 😂😂😂 Btw you get 1kg of rice for ₹2 in govt ration shops even a beggar can live peacefully eating rice.... Think before you shitholes call someone as rice bag convert...no one converts for rice Go and study something genuine
@@p.kprasan5356 only missionaries were there out with Lower caste society and tribals population in providing health care and education facilities .. At that time.. You're casteist Hindu ancestors had considered them as pollute
Should have also mentioned the arrival of the Syriac merchants from Mesopotamia and Persia that helped the native Christian community of Kerala to flourish. Knai Thoma who landed in Kodungallur in the 4th or 8th century and Sabrisho who landed in Kollam in the 9th century are major figures in the cultural heritage of the Saint Thomas Christians. Because both merchants received sassanam or copper plate grants from the Chera Dynasty, the Christians of Kerala were bestowed socio-economic rights that aided in making them a powerful minority community. This economic history of the Nasrani is important towards understanding their formation as community in the socio-cultural landscape of Kerala.
SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH." AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
@@nihangninja4201 History: the branch of knowledge dealing with past events. a continuous, systematic narrative of past events as relating to a particular people, country, period, person, etc., usually written as a chronological account; chronicle: So according to you history is "HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO "
Love this channel! I'm hooked! I realized only now that Ive actually visited all 3 burial places of the apostles you mentioned... I just happened to have been in those places (St. Thomas Mount, Madras; the Vatican; Santiago de Compostela, Spain). I guess inadvertently did some pilgrimages?! A few points after watching this video, in no particular order: There is a mention of St Thomas the Apostle's killing and his burial place in the writings of Marco Polo who visited India in the late 1200s or early 1300s. This is about 200 years before the Portuguese arrived. I think it's worth including when discussing the veracity of the claims of Christianity having arrived here very early on. Second, I've never heard my community being referred to as Thomas Christians. In Malayalam, it's "Nasranis" ('the people of Nazareth') and in English, it's always been "Syrian Christians." It has to do with the hierarchy of the church. The archbishops in Kerala are part of the Syrian Orthodox church, a denomination like the Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, etc. Last, a tiny correction: Armenia is not a European country.
Our lord jesus Christ is super and hero, let's us not forget after his coming the counting number of years renew at his time and counting from his age 33Ce till date 2024 remain in our generation now. Praise the Lord.
It's disputed that Thomas really visited India, also it's an historical fact that a church was built by the Portuguese over the temple site which was shifted to the place where it's today in Madras.......
Yes, there is also a story that Thomas visited Brazil. The people of Brazil believe that. These people have made up stories to convert people in different continents. Same Thomas cant have died in both brazil and in Tamil Nadu. Also, note how unlike other travellers, Thomas only converted people but never got inspired or had dialogue with any religious leaders?? Perfect for a made up story. Tamil Nadu had Jainism also at that time. No jain had a faith dialogue with this foreigner who just keeps converting people?
@@keralanaturelover196 Yes, for converted christians only sanskrit is looter and central asian language. Their own religion is not central asian. All this missionary propaganda is now exposed now, unfortunately so wont work anymore.
Two questions: 1. How did he communicate to locals. Indians didn’t know Hebrew. 2. How come he reached kerala via Sea route. Sea route to reach India (kerala) was navigated centuries later.
Answer 1. Thomas didnt speak Hebrew (It was the language of high priests and officials) He spoke Aramaic which was the language of common people. Kerala had jewish settlements from the time of King Solomon that was hundreds of years before Jesus was born and St Thomas initially preached in Muziris , Palayur , Paravur which were all old Jewish settlements ( You can still see Jewish Artefacts still now in these places) 2 Muziris ( Present day Kodungalloor) was a major port since historical times which had trades from middle east which has recordings in many ancient texts and one remarkable one in Marco Polos , since St Thomas knew there was Jewish settlements there he would have thought its easy to preach here.
Perfect question. And the previous response is also apt. Where the story is made up by the Portugues is Thomas travelling to Mylapore. There is absolutely zero logic in that and a convenient story for converting tamilians. Thomas was tasked with converting the Jews. Why should he travel to Mylapore that just conveniently happened to be a Port town controlled by British and Portuguese! {and no story of any travel between Kerala and Tamil nadu land route}
Thanks for being honest. May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you for making this video. We are called the rice bags and many hindus mock us day in and out that we were sold out for money. Yes we are sold out not for money or rice but for truth of God of all creation. I did not take money to become a christian after being a brahmin for 34 years. I am a follower of Jesus since 12 plus years and unto my death.
As always there is always something unique to learn from StoryTrails video. Being in Chennai I am aware of St.Thomas and the early Christians of Kerala but never new the little details. Like how his remains were attempted to be taken to Europe and the fact that St Thomas is only one of three such churches built over the tomb of a saint. And ofcourse the clarity and tone of the narration is excellent 👌
In 1507,Portuguese viceroy Almedia asked Jesuits about the place where St. Thomas died, so they could build a church there. Jesuits declared that St.Thomas was "martyred" on mount of Tirumala (Tirupati) and it was a religious duty to build a church there A search party comprising of Portuguese soldiers,Jesuit missionaries & Armenian merchants started out for "the holy land of Thomas" and headed towards Tirupati. It was intercepted by soldiers of Vijayanagara Viranarasimha. A pitched battle ensued and the Portugese were repulsed. There were no "search parties" for the next 10 years. Then in 1517, another search party got ready. This time, Armenian merchants persuaded a group of Portuguese soldiers returning from Melakka to travel to Mylapore, which was now claimed as the place of St. Thomas Martyrdom. This St.Thomas Mount in mylapore was a hindu holy place Sage Bringi Hill. No St. Thomas ever visited India. Do you know there are 14 churches in the world which claim they have the tomb of St.Thomas. 6 of them are in South India. Thomas Marched Towards Armenia from Syria but Our uneducated but LITERATE keralites claim he Came To Kerala 😂 hilarious bunch of jokers
Love your channel and the various stories. I have been having this doubt for quite sometime- will appreciate if you can clarify: The British are not Catholics - as a matter of fact they were against the Vatican pope for a long time. British ruled large parts of India. But then how come Catholics have a larger spread in India than any other church? Especially all their seminaries and schools... how did that happen? Thank you and keep up your great work!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you :) And that is a good question. The British were the dominant colonial power in India, but not the dominant religious influence. The British East India Company’s focus was to make profits from the colony, not spread religion. They felt that religious activity would dilute their focus. They actively dissuaded British evangelists from visiting India. Till the Wesley Methodist Church movement and the Charter Act 1813, British Anglican missionary activity did not really exist in India. However, Catholicism in India predated the British. The Portuguese who came to India in the 1490s were aggressive in forcing conversions to Catholicism. (You could read the history of Portuguese Inquisition). The French who had some colonies in India also encouraged Catholicism. In addition, there were many freelance Catholic missionaries from European countries who evangelised in native Indian and British territories. Josef Constanzo Beschi, an Italian Jesuit and Fr. Ephrem de Nevers, a French Catholic priest , are two names that come to mind. We do not have an exact figure, but it is estimated that at least half of the Indian Christians are Catholic.
@@StorytrailsChannel portugese had very bad chararacter, becauase after there arrival, they saw a group of people follow christinity in kerala,and this portugese teams suppress native christians is because native christians worshipps like eastern Christianity, portugeese didnt accept this type. Native christians face lot of struggles from portugese, just search the history of konnan cross oath
@@tempt3857 Vatican never accept the MarThoma church as original christians💕😂 They never believe that Thomas travelled to kerala during 52 AD, 😁❤Kerala christians are mixture of Orthodox☦️ Roman Catholic MarThoma and charismatic Pentecostals ❤their supremacy is in their beautiful fair skin 💕💕
Another ram janma Bhoomi making. Anyway Hindu temples built on Buddhist temples, christian did the same at Goa , Muslims did the same all over the world. So past is no good
@@rram4772 I'm from Kerala, there's a shiva temple near to home with a history of more than 1000 years. The temple was an actually a Buddhist shrine.u can google as much u want
@@PrinceTMATHEW Give me more details about the location. I will definitely find out the truth through Google or other credible sources and provide you the same. By the way, your first comment seems to imply that a Hindu temple was not destroyed and masjid built over it. You don't seem to know about the archelological team headed Mr B.B. Lal and KK Muhammed (from Kerala). Find below the gist from the relevant Wikipedia article: "KK Muhammed, the former Director (North) of the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI), was part of the first excavation drive conducted way back in 1976-77 under former ASI director-general BB Lal. Muhammed, the only Muslim in that group, claimed that the evidences clearly indicated that a grand temple once stood at the site."
@@rram4772 yeah I don't know maybe a temple was there or not. By your logic,the St Peter's cathedral of Vatican should be demolished right now since it was built in the ruins of ancient Rome. The temple situated in konni, Kerala. My family bought up here by the pandalam castle ( current owner of sabarimala temple) in the 16 th century to work at this temple. You can google the atrocities done by the Brahmins to the. Buddhist people in ancient India
Lol, stop worshiping that ded guy, your jeebus don't even had a historical evidence of existence, it was a lie made up by the aristocrats, churches to control masses like you.
Excellent coverage of the likelihood of Thomas’ travel, and the certainty that Christianity has been in South India for nearly 2000 years. One thing to clarify: Paul was in Rome, Italy, after traveling a few times through Turkey, Greece, Crete, and Cyprus. This is documented in Scripture in the Acts of the Apostles. So while it wasn’t the major religion in any one country till Armenia as you say, Christian’s were in Europe by 50s CE. the Ethiopian Eunuch is also converted & returned home before Paul was in Rome, So Africa also had Christians before Europe. South Indian Christians were never the majority religion, but they were a recognized, sizable minority in what is now Kerala and Tamil Nadu states for 2000 years now.
Well its also important not to sugarcoat something we are not sure is historically accurate, but we do know for historical fact abt future missionaries like William Carey and Graham Stanes.
Thank you for this beautiful narration of which I knew very little of, but so appreciated the knowledge you presented in such an eloquent manner. Very well done! I will subscribe and listen to more ....thank you again!
Jesus said 'I am the son of God, father forgive them they don't know what they are doing'' Jesus himself told it and people like you with half knowledge declare him God. Only lord Krishna said I am complete, I create entire creation and enter creation immerge within me. In the west people left Christianity and missionaries came here to promote their narrow-mindedness. According to the bible, the earth is flat, only two ways after death one permanent heaven and another permanent hell after death, they bury the dead body to preserve it till judgment day who fear and believe Jesus and his father get eternal life with the body they bury. What a narrow-minded belief people are following without knowing it. People's emotions and faith are misguided by low spiritual practices in Christianity.
For all the ones who have this question that how the language barrier is compensated for his preaching, I think my response would do good. It is going to be difficult to comprehend.... But its reference is in the bible... I think you know that we believe in the Holy Spirit, the spirit of God. When that Spirit of God rules over our body, the gift or varam called 'multiple tongues' can be claimed. This incident was first recorded in the bible, where it says when all followers of Jesus Christ gathered in an upper floor of a home. The Holy Spirit rested upon them, and they started speaking in 'multiple tongues'. When the passerby noticed noise coming from the upper floor of a house, they thought that people in that floor are drinking and partying, but then when they paid attention to what they were saying, they were surprised to hear their language. They said, "how come these Galileans know and speak our language. They are speaking things, and we all are hearing it in our own language". This is how it is believed to have happened with Thomas too with Indians here. This is the gift called 'multiple tongues'. It is believed that this is one among the 7 gifts that Spirit of God will give to his people who does what Jesus commanded to do, I.e, to spread the gospel about Jesus Christ, which is about his birth and reason, death and resurrection, and the most importantly HIS SECOND COMING. I hope I did justice to your question. Thank you. God loves you all.
Really curious to know in which language St. Thomas delivered his speeches to the locals both in Kerala and in Chennai. Really fascinating piece of history.
There is jewish settelment in kerala they are talking both aramic and local languges spice traders st thomas send to preach about messia to them they are the first accepted jesus now also comparing to other Christian community we following some Jewish traditions and called by locals Nazrani
Thomas the Apostle India's oldest church, claimed to be the world's oldest existing church structure and built by Thomas the Apostle in 57 AD, called Thiruvithamcode Arappally or Thomaiyar Kovil as named by the then Chera king Udayancheral, is located at Thiruvithamcode in Kanyakumari District of Tamil Nadu, India.
No India's oldest church is Palayur church, in Thrissur ,Kerala which was built by St Thomas . Arappally church was built much later by st. Thomas himself during his journey.
@@imlucifer5040 saying fake and putting a laugh emoji on a topic you have no clear knowledge about doesn't make it fake. Christians excited centuries before the British or Dutch even though about invading. There is enough conclusive evidence to prove that.
St. Marcus has a great cathedral in Egypt where we burried his head.Rest of his reman still in Vatican -Rome There is tombs for James the lesser and Saimo the Thalat at Rome Italy in small church.
@@StorytrailsChannel St. Thomas didn't visit Kerala. Do some research before you make you tube videos please. Here's the truth about St.Thomas From Jesuit archives: In 1507,Portuguese viceroy Almedia asked Jesuits about the place where St. Thomas died, so they could build a church there. Jesuits declared that St.Thomas was "martyred" on mount of Tirumala (Tirupati) and it was a religious duty to build a church there. A search party comprising of Portuguese soldiers,Jesuit missionaries & Armenian merchants started out for "the holy land of Thomas" and headed towards Tirupati. It was intercepted by soldiers of Vijayanagara Viranarasimha. A pitched battle ensued and the Portugese were repulsed. There were no "search parties" for the next 10 years. Then in 1517, another search party got ready. This time, Armenian merchants persuaded a group of Portuguese soldiers returning from Melakka to travel to Mylapore, which was now claimed as the place of St. Thomas Martyrdom. This St.Thomas Mount in mylapore was a hindu holy place called Sage Bringi Hill. No St. Thomas ever visited India. Do you know there are 14 churches in the world which claim they have the tomb of St.Thomas. 6 of them are in South India St.Thomas marched towards Armenia from Syria but uneducated malayalees like you claim he came to Kerala 😂
@@p.kprasan5356 sir, with all respect, you are behaving like an uneducated one by telling "uneducated malayalees"....now u say that st Thomas didn't come to Kerala and u have no strong proofs backing that up....Historical records prove with authentic evidence that Saint Thomas the Apostle really visited India. The Indian Council for Historical Research (ICHR) found several historical records and traditions that authenticate Apostle Thomas traveled by sea to India in AD 52. The accurate historical references show that he was later martyred and buried in Mylapore region of Tamilakam (Indo-Parthian Kingdom)., which are now Kerala and Tamil Nadu during Sangam Period after witnessing to thousands in the region...next time when u make a statement ,make sure to back that up....Not by telling some stories centuries after(here u talk about medieval history which is far away from thomas's time)
@@joeljacobfelix4871 The New Testament came into existence only in the fourth century, after the Council of Nicaea called by Roman Emperor Constantine in 325 AD. The first Christians came to India with the Syrian merchant Thomas Cananeus in 345 AD escaping persecution in Persia. It was not Apostle Thomas but a merchant called Thomas Cananeus. The authors of the Bible made "Barnasha" a martyr & gave him a name "Jesus" & FOOLED the world. After that calling a merchant "Thomas Cananeus" as "Apostle Thomas" is just a piece of cake. Christians must stop calling a merchant as Apostle. You shouldn't be so STUPID & INSANE to believe that.
@@p.kprasan5356 #first of all, the new testament is not just a book.....it contains many books written by the apostles about things they witnessed by living with Jesus....the letters they wrote independently to the kings were then collected by the council and then we got the 'new testament collected book' ,i.e,the collection was done only in the 3rd century....so new testament was not created in the third century it was simply piled up together #And about the Syrian merchant thingy...there are evidence from various elite research centers which tells us about the existence of christians in India in the first century...moreover Thomas Cananeus brought communities from Mesopotamia and the community is now known as 'cananaya community'...but what annoys me is that u bring up facts to falsify other facts. WHAT A BLUNDER!!!!! # BARNASHA in Aramic means 'son of man'. Jesus referred to him as 'son of man' and he spoke Aramaic therefore he referred to him as 'BARNASHA' it is easy to fool people when they are fooling themselves and you fooled yourself by hearing to those who did no research but simply want to bring some dump points against religion because they hate the religion....but thanking you for letting people know about the word barnasha and the merchant Thomas who found his own church in India...And before you post something somewhere,please spend some time on it and learn something about it
From the doubting apostle that would not believe that Christ had risen from the dead, until he was able to place his fingers in the nail holes, to now the founder of Christianity, in India. Wow, obviously he was in no doubt after what he had seen to travel so far and risk his life for the Messiah
Most probably in Tamil the then language of Kerala and present-day Tamil Nadu. There was no Malayalam language at that time. Modern Malayalam is just a few centuries old. Largely born from middle Tamil. It was then the Tamil Cheral kingdom
There was spice trade even during Roman period and when there's trade, there's translators. You can either pay them or slave them or befriend them. Multiple ways. For trade a common language is always required and it changed according to popularity. Today it is English, before it was persian and even before it was Greek etc. So simply they might have found a local translator for aramic to Malayalam or some random merchant who can speak the local Malayalam during that time.
Jesus said 'I am the son of God, father forgive them they don't know what they are doing'' Jesus himself told it and people like you with half knowledge declare him God. Only lord Krishna said I am complete, I create entire creation and enter creation immerge within me. In the west people left Christianity and missionaries came here to promote their narrow-mindedness. According to the bible, the earth is flat, only two ways after death one permanent heaven and another permanent hell after death, they bury the dead body to preserve it till judgment day who fear and believe Jesus and his father get eternal life with the body they bury. What a narrow-minded belief people are following without knowing it. People's emotions and faith are misguided by low spiritual practices in Christianity.
@@iamq1901 In South East Asia, people left Hindu. What is really ur point? These countries give people choice unlike ur place. Your deity's claim from your book is not important for us. And no, bible never explicitly claimed the shape of earth.
I guess at the time referred that place u mentioned was defacto TN. Further, was the second place that accepted Christianity , Constantinople ( ie now Turkey) in 312 CE? Thanks. Best wishes
If you could research Kaduthuruthy Church Sasanam (giving land for the church), or a similar church. This if I remember correctly was written in Tamil vattezhuthu, before Malayalam formed in the 13th century. That could settle a lot of dust that Christianity was in India before the Portuguese. Also the church in Piravom in Ernakulam district of Kerala, has a legend that the Magi visited the place after visiting the infant Jesus in the manger, aptly named as the Three king's church. A humble request to the researchers here. Would be happy to know the truth!
A comprehensive balanced discussion especially in light of the ongoing debates around the historical accuracy of the apostolic age. I would however question the conclusion drawn on the Christianisation of Armenia and early Christians in India. Armenia was the first country in the world to make Christianity a state religion in the 4th century CE. But that doesn’t mean Christianity only came to Armenia in the 4th century CE. Christianity was also trickling through the Mediterranean countries in the first century and it took time to build a significant mass before these countries became fully/mostly Christian. In India while christianity was purported to have been introduced around the same time it did not became a state religion.
We Christians in Kerala never dreamed of a Christian state. Hindus always been our best supporters and we supported Hindus throughout all ups and downs, till today.
ST thomas actually made 7 churches in kerala before going to Tamilnadu. Churches mean communitys. Later these churches come under control of Assyrian Orthodox church who came by sea . This is why certain Christians in kerala called syro malabar church. Syro means syria, malabar means kerala. Later when Portuguese came they tried make these Christians to Catholic church. Either by force or by preaching. This lead to conflict. Some remained in Orthodox control of Anthiyoke. Some converted Catholics who is controled by Pope in rome. Later others came Dutch, British and all spread Christian belief in some way or other.
7 and a half.. from my understanding of it.. almost all along the banks of Periyar River, which was navigable at the time and a lot of trade moved through it..
That was not the Apostle St.Thomas. Apostle Thomas & Merchant Thomas are two different people. It was a Syrian (or Armenian) merchant Thomas Cananeus in 345 AD. He led four hundred refugees who fled persecution in Persia and were given asylum by the Hindu authorities.
@@jithinn1 Do some research before you come here & talk nonsense like thousands of Kerala Christians, who have NO CLUE of history. St. Thomas if he had visited could not have preached Christianity in 52 AD because Christianity and the New Testament came into existence only in the fourth century, after the Council of Nicaea called by Roman Emperor Constantine in 325 AD. The main sources relating to Apostle Thomas are two Gnostic (non-Biblical) texts known as the Acts of Thomas and the Gospel of Thomas. According to them Thomas was the twin brother of Jesus. For this reason the Thomas myth is not accepted by the Vatican because of a doctrinal problem: Jesus as the Only "Son of God" cannot possibly have a twin brother. (Greek for Thomas is Didymus, which means twin brother.)
@@p.kprasan5356 Thomas was the apostle of Christ . Yes he is called as the twin . This doesn't mean the he is the twin brother of Christ . This has nothing to do with eternal sonship of jesus and god the Father. Because jesus existed with father from the beginning. It is heresy to say jesus was created . The catholic Church teaches on the perpetual virginity of Mary . This means that Mary was an ever virgin even after jesus birth. there is a conflict about Thomas in India. They are many tradition about him .
India Needs more saints like St.Thomas to rid india of so many idol Gods with Demonic intentions to destroy Christianity So is the power of the Cross who died for all Non Believers that one day he wii come again
So interesting. I wonder what language he preached in and how he picked it up and communicated proselytising messages in it. And if he was influenced by local faiths.
Dear Madam so beautifully said and the two of you have done your presentation so good no words can compare thank you Madam & Sir for keeping us all so informed may god bless you for Gods Inspiration on the two of you love yourell so Much
Given this background, it is no surprise that as early as 1507, the Portuguese Viceroy Almeida sent out a preliminary expedition to south to look for the tomb of St Thomas the Apostle . As observed, any discovery of St. Thomas would legitimise their conquests. However, the first mission was a total failure and Portuguese failed to find what they were looking for.
I hate the fact that some missionaries are mocking Christianity in the name of conversion.Tagging Jesus with Yoga poses etc. This seems wrong. Spread the message, whoever humbles himself and accepts HIS Grace let them. Why force them.
SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH." AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
Jews never forget their roots & their extended family members. The Jews who were traders in the south of India who settled a long time, as early as 2500BC, in today's Kerala, is the proof of the birth of Christianity early on. Jews synagogues & burial sites are still in Cochin. Hope we preserve it. One of the disciples who was St. Thomas, a jew, had traveled from jerusalem to convince those Jews (brown Jews) who lived in Cochin and nearby places to adopt faith in Christ. Those converted became the first Christian group, whom we today call Syrian Christians or Nazarani Christians. Later, more traders from Mesopotamia, Greece, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, and Persia who came to Malabar to carry out trade with the Middle East, Rome and Africa settled in this part. They married and settled, married local people and thus became the first Christian society. This is why they still, Syrian Christians, use Syriac (Aramaic in prayers) & hold relations with Middle Eastern churches, churches in Greece, Iraq, Egypt, Turkey, and Damascus. This group was later split by the Portuguese (Syro Malabar, 1655 & Chaldean (mesapotamia/Iraq) Syrian Christians (Syrian Christians/Nazarani/Jacobites)), and the English (Marthomite, 1890). The further split happened for various reasons - Pentecost, Malankara catholic (1930), and Jacobite (1975). The years given are approximate, not exact. The root Christian group is currently known as the Malankara Orthodox Church. Forgot, another notable group that came and settled in was Kananites, later known as the knanaya christians.
@@amitkumarpradhan2529 I'm Alex, and I'm from Viet Nam. I'm doing a scientific study on Catholicism in India, so I hope I can find somebody may help me with some information about it, please.
You guys totally skipped the Parthain king Gondaphares of Pakistan, "Gandapur" in Pashto, and "Gaspard" in Christian tradition, described as both Persian and Indian in western literature, but in fact Sakistan/Scythia situated between Persia and India. He was a major player in bringing Christianity to India. His writings are still found in parts of northwest Pakistan.
In 1933, Choudhry Rehmat Ali, a Cambridge University student, came up with the idea of a Muslim nation called Pakistan. Till then there was NO PAKISTAN.
@@NativeVsColonial but in other countries ,there are no casts like in bsdk india ,do you know usa is a christians country and dubai is a muslim country ,in dia is a hindu country but where did the bsdk muslims and christians camed to india
Gospel came to India early but the Indian churches did not seem to be active in spreading forth the gospel. When will the Indian churches awake from her slumber?
Lol, stop worshiping that ded guy, your jeebus don't even had a historical evidence of existence, it was a lie made up by the aristocrats, churches to control masses like you.
@@NativeVsColonial Mr.Native...you are a pacca fraud and ignorant being...if at all you are a living being... 😃 There are historical evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ.
We Hindus have no problem with any Religon, We resepct all Religions and Gods, We also condemn any attacks against Minorities by Hindu Radicals. May Jesus bless India !!!
Also equally condemn deceit and pressure tactics used by Christian Healthcare and Educational institutions in the name of Jesus. Jesus wont bless Christians who indulge in such malpractice for conversions. Those Radicals exist because such wrong behaviours have gone unchecked for a long time.
St Thomas and St Bartholomew came together to India. Both came to Ophir seaport, that time kalyan diocese (Present Vasai in Maharastra) st Bartholomew stayed and preached in Kalyan and St Thomas went south to Kerala
No they both didn't come together St. Thomas came first to India he landed on the Port Muziriz of Kerala. Then After some years in 55 AD came St. Bartholomew , At Kallianpur in Karnataka and went preaching through Goa to Kalyan in Maharashtra, Which made him the second Apostle to land on the divine land of India.
This is faith. Not history. If a statement is considered to be a history, certain criteria must be observed. History is a scientific way of pursuit to truth. Today, history is considered as a science. No statement given by science is eternal truth. Because, science is not stagnant.
All foolish bluff.jesus direct discipline never landed in India. He might have been visited Syria. The Thomas came to India is a Christian missionaries.
Madamji here got the point. When we say "Church", it's not building but a group of people. Today's believers needed to be reminded of this point.
Today's churches itself need to be reminded of this in many places i'd say
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Iam a Syriac Christyan from Kerala still we use Syriac language in our prayers.
SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH."
AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
@@nihangninja4201 Religion progress together with science, the development of science is contributed by religion. So merely, you who don't believe in anything. Is empty in your box
why use foreign language ?
@@NavinDhyani It’s not a foreign language to the Indian Christians.. it’s the language of the early Church and of our forefathers.. many Syriac terms have gone mainstream in Malayalam as well..
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Im grateful that St. Thomas came to India and we have got the gift to Worship and Follow the true and living God Jesus Christ 🙏✝️
In the past, they ruled your ancestors with their guns because your ancestors were weak. Now, they rule your minds with their roses (for your graves) and their bibles because your are stooopid.
@@Joo-vw9kb St Thomas and guns??? Lmao 😂
This is a cock and bull story.
Thus Indian Cryptos were born 😂
@@drdoofenshmirtz7620cope harder 😅
I was fortunate to visit Saint Thomas' church in Chennai in 2017. It was right after Christmas too, so it was adorn whit so many colorful banners and decorations. Such a fascinating and illustrious history! I will visit Spain's Santiago de Compostela this year, after which I will have been to all three churches built over the remains of the Apostles.
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I am American of Iraqi Christian Chaldean Catholic lineage. I’m a fluent speaker of the Aramaic language, no reading/writing, in fact I don’t even know the alphabet. Currently, is spoken mostly by the clergy, church choir, etc not of the average person and dangerously close to extinction. Any Christian knows it’s our lord’s spoken language.
I speak the “Chaldean” dialect, Jesus spoke the “Galilee” dialect nevertheless it’s the same exact language, same alphabet (22 letters), same words, same writing, same sentences, grammar, same exact book, text, etc. kinda like an Indian from Kerala Hindi speaker to a North Pakistan Hindi speaker.
Haven’t done much research in this area, my ancestors were the first Christian COMMUNITY in the world, when being a Christian was dangerous business. Yes my ancestors were evangelized by St Thomas himself, then en route to India and fairly sure St Thomas was accompanied by Aramaic speakers of Mesopotamia to spread the faith in India and beyond.
A couple weeks ago, I watched on RUclips a mass in INDIA fully in Aramaic ! Even had an entire choir of young Indian men and women not just speak it, but were singing hymns in Aramaic from a book
! If you’d like to look it up, just input here on RUclips (Chaldeans Aramaic India) and you’ll see plenty, some say up to 2 million Indians are Chaldeans or someway somehow the Aramaic language or something, sounds like a very high number, but again not so high considering India’s population of 1.2 B
It’s the same language spoken by Mel Gibson’s movie (2004) “passions of Christ” superb acting by Jim Caveziel and at the time it was the highest grossing movie ever. The sad part is they were shunned by Hollywood and the actor Caviziel knew he’d never find any acting work b/c of its controversial you know whom that influenced the Roman governor Pilate, there’s to be a sequel to come out in 2024 called the “resurrection”.
Peace ✌️ to all Indians regardless of faith, belief, sect, religion just so as long as it promotes, love, peace, forgiveness, patience, resilience and harmony amongst the masses.
I am a Chaldean syrian christian from Thrissur,kerala..we were once the major christian group at one time but now a minority.
Its true most of them dont know the historical importance of this community and now in the verge of extinction.
@@fijomohan7232നിങ്ങൾ തല്ല് കൂടി പോയിട്ട് അല്ലെ എന്നിട്ട് ഇപ്പൊ എന്തിനാ കരയണേ 😂
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For your information, Malayalam is the common language of Kerala not Hindi.
British brought Christianity in India❎.
St Thomas, The Apostle of Jesus Christ brought Christianity in India✅.
As a Malayali Christian, I want to thank you for covering this.
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THIS SAINT THOMAS THING IS A LIE. THERE IS NO PROOF IN WESTERN TEXTS THAT SAINT THOMAS CAME TO INDIA . IT IS MENTIONED THAT HE WENT EAST- AND THAT EAST IS SYRIA AND NOT INDIA
@@toocooltocare1444 Do you have any evidence to suggest that he did not go further east? Or are you just speculating? One things for sure. The presence of Christianity in Kerala is older than a thousand years.
@@tijojoseph3315 I am not speculating. The portugese were expert in creating stories like this. These stories were used to convert people into christianity, read the book by DR Nagaswamy on thirukural. Also, read texts by western travellers who came to india, they never mention arrival of St thomas . ST thomas definately went east but he never came to india. They made up the st thomas theory to show that everything good in south indian culture is taken from christianity while everything bad is from hinduism. Apart from DR nagaswamy you may refer to Rajiv malhotra's book breaking india, on page 88-89-90, you might find convincing answers. Also, if you wish you may read the pages ahead too.
Though i would say its unfortunate that ST thomas went to syria and spreaded christianity there , But today syria is an islamic country which faces terrorism.
@@toocooltocare1444 If you don't know the culture, history or traditions of Kerala, why do you bother commenting? Yes, there are converts from the times of the Portuguese a few hundred years ago, but the majority of Christians in Kerala follow rites that have origins in the Middle East. There are also (few in number) Anglo-Indians like my fiancée with Portuguese paternal heritage. Kerala was a major trading destination in the past, so this shouldn't be surprising. I'm not saying for a fact that St. Thomas did come to India, but my point is that Christianity in Kerala was practiced in the state before the arrival of the Europeans.
I live in Kerala. The origin of Christianity in India is well narrated.
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Why fool Indian culture and Indian people? why does church looks like temple and follow Hindu traditions ? Stop cultural appropriations, either run church as church or be Hindu and live Hindu lifestyle
in 2006, Pope itself told the world that no Thomas did not visited India and there is no Genuine records expect missionaries narratives
Mylapur santhom church was build on top of original mylapur kapaleeswarar Temple
anyways its fine to follow any beliefs because Hindu culture of this land embrace it unlike any Islamic or Christian nations. However the problem comes when converts starts hate and run anti Hindu missions in our land!
save our land from missionaries and foreign genocidal culture and church mafias'
This is the fakest story i have ever heard🤣ezhunett podaaa
True.. This story created by Portuguese around 16th century
There were kingdoms at that time but he came to southern tip
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Good to know facts. Amazing to know that Christianity is so old in India. Well narrated. Thanks.
All lies.
St. Thomas didn't visit Kerala.
@@p.kprasan5356 More than enough historical evidences exist.
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Ha ha😂
All cooked up like the BIBLE was cooked up.
The main sources relating to Apostle Thomas are two Gnostic (non-Biblical) texts known as the Acts of Thomas and the Gospel of Thomas.
According to them Thomas was the twin brother of Jesus.
For this reason the Thomas myth is not accepted by the Vatican because of a doctrinal problem: Jesus as the Only "Son of God" cannot possibly have a twin brother. (Greek for Thomas is Didymus, which means twin brother.)
In fact, there is no evidence that Thomas even existed. His “history” is full of contradictions.😁😂
@@p.kprasan5356 lol you don't even know the history Vatican didn't proclaimed any such things on their ccc didimos was the name of Thomas before becoming the disciple of Jesus and there is enough historic evidence of Thomas arriving in INDIA 😂😂so before commenting study history.Dont come with maked up stories we all people are staying India unitedly some of Hindus not many thinks that we are outsiders but we're INDIANS and we'll always be INDIANS
@@p.kprasan5356 Enthine kazhappada
I come from an army background family. Have seen so many syro malabar Catholics in indian army. Thankyou for everything my dear indian catholic community. Right from setting up educational institutions to being such well behaved and progressive minority I have always loved you all. Jai Hind
An Indian christian really happy for this brief history. Thank you so much.
Ok Ricebag, enjoy the 🍚🍚🍚
@@isckoniover3129 If we were Insecure like the Christians, we would have built a cult like them, and invaded every non-hindu land in the name of Krishna, and in this 21st century we would be using money to luring people to join.
@@NativeVsColonial cry to corner 😢😭😭😭
@@TJuugu It's very clear who is crying 🤣🤣
@@NativeVsColonial Ur ppl dont give ricebag to ur own ppl. Sad
This was phenomenal! After the inspiration of watching this video, I've decided to do a paper on this community for my university. You better believe this will be cited :) !!!
Wonderful!
@@StorytrailsChannel I got an A, in case you were wondering ;)
The oldest church in the world is located at thiruvithamkode 50 kms off thiruvananthapuram, capital of kerala built by thomas in the year A D 52
Do on Indian Vedas which is much earlier.
Link to your fakery please. Thxs. Its 2023 April.
Thank you for sharing historical information of Christianity in India. I am from Church of the Nazarene in India. Let all Indians irrespective of religions, thank God for sending His disciple St.Thomas to India in AD52.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 still you are free rice bag eater
Jesus said 'I am the son of God, father forgive them they don't know what they are doing'' Jesus himself told it and people like you with half knowledge declare him God. Only lord Krishna said I am complete, I create entire creation and enter creation immerge within me. In the west people left Christianity and missionaries came here to promote their narrow-mindedness. According to the bible, the earth is flat, only two ways after death one permanent heaven and another permanent hell after death, they bury the dead body to preserve it till judgment day who fear and believe Jesus and his father get eternal life with the body they bury. What a narrow-minded belief people are following without knowing it.
@@iamq1901 In South East Asia, people left Hindu. What is really ur point? These countries give people choice unlike ur place. Your deity's claim from your book is not important for us. And no, bible never explicitly claimed the shape of earth.
@@BoSS-nj1qzEveryone has the right to choose what they want to believe personally......but, not at the cost of defying and ridiculing other's existence!
The missionary work and Abrahamic ideology fundamentally claims to be the one truth as oppose to ' False ' gods.......Ironically, it itself hails and consists of many belief systems of pre Christian or Abrahamic era ......!!
Right from belief in Angels to Santa and what not !
That is what is problematic
@@kishandubey7882 lmao what is this has got to do with my comment. Get a grip 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for doing this video. I am a Keralan Christian who lives abroad and I have to explain the church history because not a lot of people know the history even in the Christian circles. I am proud of my Indian Christian heritage 💕
Ok ricebag 🍚🍚🍚
@@NativeVsColonial 🤣😂
@@NativeVsColonial pani pooris tis is south india mind it
@@orphan9334 it's India converted slaves
There is no proof bruv, go and read about the Goa Inquisition and the destruction caused by the so called saints who were responsible for murdering Hindus and destroying temples and converting them. Christianity has no culture. The Onam festivals and Pongal festivals is a Hindu festival too. So Christianity is basically a fairy tail and a cult
The why - St Thomas like the other twelve were mandated to bring the Jews into the faith, not as Christians but as Jews believing in Isaiah 53. In those days Kerala had a big number of Jewish people that is why Kerla - Muziris was on the list/radar.
Interesting!
You are totally correct✔ 💕 I'm a Christian and know the truth about the Jewish community settled in those parts 💕and no Malayali people as they were not before 2000 yrs before 😁💕
@@jeyakumarm1912 you all much watch out for the appearance of a shard with a bible phrase in ancient Hebrew - that will prove the fact. there will be no more arguments or doubts.
Also, there is record of a Jewish King called Joseph Rabban
question: why a king - way before Europeans showed up - also, definitely required Jewish subjects to rule.
I'm a Catholic from the Philippines. I learned that Christianity in India is older than the Christianity in my country because of St. Thomas the Apostle.
Should have mentioned about 7.5 churches established by St. Thomas. As a descendant of St Thomas Malankara Orthodox Church, I’m so happy to see this video and suggest a bit more research to be done with Kerala christianity.
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I have visited the church in St thomas mount. Very peaceful. Mind will be at peace here.
I'm proud to be Indian Christian 🙂
Peroud ricebag 🍚🍚🍚
@@NativeVsColonial what's wrong in a rice bag
It simply shows how shallow the previous community was that one of them was dying of hunger that he had to convert religion for food
Thank God that person became Christian 🙏
@@pravarsharma8029 Even animals are more faithful than this. 😩
@@NativeVsColonial why should a human be faithful to a community which considers them untouchables ???
Why would they stay faithful towards them
@@pravarsharma8029 Caste is not Indian, it's a superimposition of Spanish/Portuguese caste system and English Class system on India, with the objective of dividing the natives and use them against each other while English hold power and work as a mediator.
Great explanation, beautiful animations, and visuals. yall doing great works
Thank you :)
There is no TRUTH in St.Thomas visiting India, let alone Kerala.
@@StorytrailsChannel There's not even any evidence of him existing. The ritual of killing people to show you are superior religion is of abrahmic religions like Christianity and islam. Hindu don't show their superiority this way. They do it by yoga, meditation and other which really help people. Stop spreading lies in the name of jesus christ.
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Great to know history and can feel proud Christianity was established in India almost from its inception. Great narration. Thank you
So much informative and clarity. Thank you
SAINT (SANSKRIT:SANT) THOMAS NEVER VISITED THIS COUNTRY.
SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH."
AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
Glad it was helpful!
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@@nihangninja4201India don't burn dead body not allowed
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Love to story telling involved. Appreciate your effort in bringing these "stories" to us - you have our heartfelt thanks. I learnt something new today about Christianity and India.
This video has to be shared in RSS Affiliated YT channels... They falsely call us rice bag convert 😂😂😂... What on earth is that terminology 😂
A merchant called Thomas Cananeus visited India but majority of christians like think the Apostle visited.
MISSIONARIES converted Hindus by offering a bag of rice & the term "rice bag converts" stuck.
@@p.kprasan5356 it's so shameful to see someone like you actively spitting bullshit and fake news about Christianity at this elderly age... That too even watching the entire video 😂😂
Mister!! Fascist RSS is not the place to learn about Christianity!!!
There are 9 churches built by St.thomas in India (specially in Kerala) even archeologist have accepted that all these churches in Kerala date back to AD 53..
if you come to Kerala.. You can find that 90% of RCSC(Roman catholic Syrian Christians) had brahminical ancestors..and had well-off economic background.. Even now Christians in Kerala are majorly from well- off economic background...
FYI rice bag convert it's a fake terminology used by fascist Sangh Parivar 💩..
It's equal of us terming Hindus are gobhar bag convert (as you didn't accept Jesus Christ as true God but to reverted to stay back in your cow religion for a bag of cowdung offered by your sadhus)
Stop using that fake terminology and stop being a fool!!
When you saffron bigots can falsely call as a rice bag converts..we have the right to call you as gobar bag convert!💩😂...
Btw weren't there any Hindus to give a kilo of rice to their fellow Hindu brothers 😂😂😂
Btw you get 1kg of rice for ₹2 in govt ration shops even a beggar can live peacefully eating rice....
Think before you shitholes call someone as rice bag convert...no one converts for rice
Go and study something genuine
@@p.kprasan5356 only missionaries were there out with Lower caste society and tribals population in providing health care and education facilities ..
At that time.. You're casteist Hindu ancestors had considered them as pollute
@@jonathanjoseph4814 Not RCSC It's SMCC Aka Syro-Malabar Catholic Church
@@jerinmathew5635 ik bro... Got to know about the new update ✨
awesome video.. Glad Christianity came to India else we’d never know about our true God.
I like how the comments section is respectful... Even if some may disagree
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Thank you for telling this story in a very objective manner. Great introduction to this topic. Thank you.
Should have also mentioned the arrival of the Syriac merchants from Mesopotamia and Persia that helped the native Christian community of Kerala to flourish. Knai Thoma who landed in Kodungallur in the 4th or 8th century and Sabrisho who landed in Kollam in the 9th century are major figures in the cultural heritage of the Saint Thomas Christians.
Because both merchants received sassanam or copper plate grants from the Chera Dynasty, the Christians of Kerala were bestowed socio-economic rights that aided in making them a powerful minority community. This economic history of the Nasrani is important towards understanding their formation as community in the socio-cultural landscape of Kerala.
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What an amazing description of an Apostle’s outreach.
Accurate and right to the point...
SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH."
AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
@@nihangninja4201 History:
the branch of knowledge dealing with past events.
a continuous, systematic narrative of past events as relating to a particular people, country, period, person, etc., usually written as a chronological account; chronicle:
So according to you history is "HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO "
Love this channel! I'm hooked! I realized only now that Ive actually visited all 3 burial places of the apostles you mentioned... I just happened to have been in those places (St. Thomas Mount, Madras; the Vatican; Santiago de Compostela, Spain). I guess inadvertently did some pilgrimages?! A few points after watching this video, in no particular order: There is a mention of St Thomas the Apostle's killing and his burial place in the writings of Marco Polo who visited India in the late 1200s or early 1300s. This is about 200 years before the Portuguese arrived. I think it's worth including when discussing the veracity of the claims of Christianity having arrived here very early on. Second, I've never heard my community being referred to as Thomas Christians. In Malayalam, it's "Nasranis" ('the people of Nazareth') and in English, it's always been "Syrian Christians." It has to do with the hierarchy of the church. The archbishops in Kerala are part of the Syrian Orthodox church, a denomination like the Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, etc. Last, a tiny correction: Armenia is not a European country.
Our lord jesus Christ is super and hero, let's us not forget after his coming the counting number of years renew at his time and counting from his age 33Ce till date 2024 remain in our generation now. Praise the Lord.
Thank you so much for this interesting documentary❣️
Greetings from Germany
May God bless you and protect the Christians of India 🙏🏻
It's disputed that Thomas really visited India, also it's an historical fact that a church was built by the Portuguese over the temple site which was shifted to the place where it's today in Madras.......
All are disputed. Sanskrit temple looter central asian language. Caste only matters then why wasting time. Ban caste and talk of hinduism
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Yes, there is also a story that Thomas visited Brazil. The people of Brazil believe that. These people have made up stories to convert people in different continents. Same Thomas cant have died in both brazil and in Tamil Nadu. Also, note how unlike other travellers, Thomas only converted people but never got inspired or had dialogue with any religious leaders?? Perfect for a made up story. Tamil Nadu had Jainism also at that time. No jain had a faith dialogue with this foreigner who just keeps converting people?
@@keralanaturelover196 Yes, for converted christians only sanskrit is looter and central asian language. Their own religion is not central asian. All this missionary propaganda is now exposed now, unfortunately so wont work anymore.
Two questions:
1. How did he communicate to locals. Indians didn’t know Hebrew.
2. How come he reached kerala via Sea route. Sea route to reach India (kerala) was navigated centuries later.
Answer
1. Thomas didnt speak Hebrew (It was the language of high priests and officials) He spoke Aramaic which was the language of common people. Kerala had jewish settlements from the time of King Solomon that was hundreds of years before Jesus was born and St Thomas initially preached in Muziris , Palayur , Paravur which were all old Jewish settlements ( You can still see Jewish Artefacts still now in these places)
2 Muziris ( Present day Kodungalloor) was a major port since historical times which had trades from middle east which has recordings in many ancient texts and one remarkable one in Marco Polos , since St Thomas knew there was Jewish settlements there he would have thought its easy to preach here.
@@Colistin-hp5slThank you
Perfect question. And the previous response is also apt. Where the story is made up by the Portugues is Thomas travelling to Mylapore. There is absolutely zero logic in that and a convenient story for converting tamilians.
Thomas was tasked with converting the Jews. Why should he travel to Mylapore that just conveniently happened to be a Port town controlled by British and Portuguese! {and no story of any travel between Kerala and Tamil nadu land route}
Thanks for being honest. May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you for making this video. We are called the rice bags and many hindus mock us day in and out that we were sold out for money.
Yes we are sold out not for money or rice but for truth of God of all creation.
I did not take money to become a christian after being a brahmin for 34 years. I am a follower of Jesus since 12 plus years and unto my death.
I really learnt a lot from this video , great work . I am of Indian decent born in the Caribbean . This was very enlightening.
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As always there is always something unique to learn from StoryTrails video. Being in Chennai I am aware of St.Thomas and the early Christians of Kerala but never new the little details. Like how his remains were attempted to be taken to Europe and the fact that St Thomas is only one of three such churches built over the tomb of a saint. And ofcourse the clarity and tone of the narration is excellent 👌
Thank you :) That's very kind of you
In 1507,Portuguese viceroy Almedia asked Jesuits about the place where St. Thomas died, so they could build a church there. Jesuits declared that St.Thomas was "martyred" on mount of Tirumala (Tirupati) and it was a religious duty to build a church there A search party comprising of Portuguese soldiers,Jesuit missionaries & Armenian merchants started out for "the holy land of Thomas" and headed towards Tirupati. It was intercepted by soldiers of Vijayanagara Viranarasimha. A pitched battle ensued and the Portugese were repulsed.
There were no "search parties" for the next 10 years.
Then in 1517, another search party got ready. This time, Armenian merchants persuaded a group of Portuguese soldiers returning from Melakka to travel to Mylapore, which was now claimed as the place of St. Thomas Martyrdom. This St.Thomas Mount in mylapore was a hindu holy place Sage Bringi Hill. No St. Thomas ever visited India.
Do you know there are 14 churches in the world which claim they have the tomb of St.Thomas.
6 of them are in South India.
Thomas Marched Towards Armenia from Syria but Our uneducated but LITERATE keralites claim he Came To Kerala 😂 hilarious bunch of jokers
@@p.kprasan5356 There is substantial evidence for St. Thomas in India..
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Cooked up evidence 😂
BULLCRAP.
St. Thomas never visited India.
Love your channel and the various stories. I have been having this doubt for quite sometime- will appreciate if you can clarify:
The British are not Catholics - as a matter of fact they were against the Vatican pope for a long time. British ruled large parts of India. But then how come Catholics have a larger spread in India than any other church? Especially all their seminaries and schools... how did that happen?
Thank you and keep up your great work!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you :) And that is a good question. The British were the dominant colonial power in India, but not the dominant religious influence. The British East India Company’s focus was to make profits from the colony, not spread religion. They felt that religious activity would dilute their focus. They actively dissuaded British evangelists from visiting India. Till the Wesley Methodist Church movement and the Charter Act 1813, British Anglican missionary activity did not really exist in India.
However, Catholicism in India predated the British. The Portuguese who came to India in the 1490s were aggressive in forcing conversions to Catholicism. (You could read the history of Portuguese Inquisition). The French who had some colonies in India also encouraged Catholicism. In addition, there were many freelance Catholic missionaries from European countries who evangelised in native Indian and British territories. Josef Constanzo Beschi, an Italian Jesuit and Fr. Ephrem de Nevers, a French Catholic priest , are two names that come to mind.
We do not have an exact figure, but it is estimated that at least half of the Indian Christians are Catholic.
@@StorytrailsChannel portugese had very bad chararacter, becauase after there arrival, they saw a group of people follow christinity in kerala,and this portugese teams suppress native christians is because native christians worshipps like eastern Christianity, portugeese didnt accept this type. Native christians face lot of struggles from portugese, just search the history of konnan cross oath
British are catholics, just not Roman Catholics.
@@tempt3857 Vatican never accept the MarThoma church as original christians💕😂 They never believe that Thomas travelled to kerala during 52 AD, 😁❤Kerala christians are mixture of Orthodox☦️ Roman Catholic MarThoma and charismatic Pentecostals ❤their supremacy is in their beautiful fair skin 💕💕
@Aminadab Brulle The British are not Catholics they are Protestants or Church of England.
I really liked this story. Thank you so much for you efforts in sharing this information.
Some believe that the land on which the basilica is built belongs to Kapaleswarar Temple. What is your opinion Storytrails?
Another ram janma Bhoomi making. Anyway Hindu temples built on Buddhist temples, christian did the same at Goa , Muslims did the same all over the world. So past is no good
@@PrinceTMATHEW "Hindu temples built on Buddhist temples (!?)" An example please. Good rationale justification !
@@rram4772 I'm from Kerala, there's a shiva temple near to home with a history of more than 1000 years. The temple was an actually a Buddhist shrine.u can google as much u want
@@PrinceTMATHEW Give me more details about the location. I will definitely find out the truth through Google or other credible sources and provide you the same.
By the way, your first comment seems to imply that a Hindu temple was not destroyed and masjid built over it. You don't seem to know about the archelological team headed Mr B.B. Lal and KK Muhammed (from Kerala). Find below the gist from the relevant Wikipedia article:
"KK Muhammed, the former Director (North) of the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI), was part of the first excavation drive conducted way back in 1976-77 under former ASI director-general BB Lal.
Muhammed, the only Muslim in that group, claimed that the evidences clearly indicated that a grand temple once stood at the site."
@@rram4772 yeah I don't know maybe a temple was there or not. By your logic,the St Peter's cathedral of Vatican should be demolished right now since it was built in the ruins of ancient Rome. The temple situated in konni, Kerala. My family bought up here by the pandalam castle ( current owner of sabarimala temple) in the 16 th century to work at this temple. You can google the atrocities done by the Brahmins to the. Buddhist people in ancient India
Last year I converted to Christianity from Hinduism ......now I am a PROUD TAMIL CHRISTIAN ...AMEN
Lol, stop worshiping that ded guy, your jeebus don't even had a historical evidence of existence, it was a lie made up by the aristocrats, churches to control masses like you.
Excellent coverage of the likelihood of Thomas’ travel, and the certainty that Christianity has been in South India for nearly 2000 years.
One thing to clarify: Paul was in Rome, Italy, after traveling a few times through Turkey, Greece, Crete, and Cyprus. This is documented in Scripture in the Acts of the Apostles. So while it wasn’t the major religion in any one country till Armenia as you say, Christian’s were in Europe by 50s CE. the Ethiopian Eunuch is also converted & returned home before Paul was in Rome, So Africa also had Christians before Europe. South Indian Christians were never the majority religion, but they were a recognized, sizable minority in what is now Kerala and Tamil Nadu states for 2000 years now.
Please don't say that it's a story... people just think it as a story... make sure to present it as a true history that happened in our country!
Well its also important not to sugarcoat something we are not sure is historically accurate, but we do know for historical fact abt future missionaries like William Carey and Graham Stanes.
Of course it is just a story.
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Thank you for this beautiful narration of which I knew very little of, but so appreciated the knowledge you presented in such an eloquent manner. Very well done! I will subscribe and listen to more ....thank you again!
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I live right opposite Santhome Church where the great saint was buried and i consider myself extremely lucky.
Jesus said 'I am the son of God, father forgive them they don't know what they are doing'' Jesus himself told it and people like you with half knowledge declare him God. Only lord Krishna said I am complete, I create entire creation and enter creation immerge within me. In the west people left Christianity and missionaries came here to promote their narrow-mindedness. According to the bible, the earth is flat, only two ways after death one permanent heaven and another permanent hell after death, they bury the dead body to preserve it till judgment day who fear and believe Jesus and his father get eternal life with the body they bury. What a narrow-minded belief people are following without knowing it. People's emotions and faith are misguided by low spiritual practices in Christianity.
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For all the ones who have this question that how the language barrier is compensated for his preaching, I think my response would do good.
It is going to be difficult to comprehend.... But its reference is in the bible... I think you know that we believe in the Holy Spirit, the spirit of God. When that Spirit of God rules over our body, the gift or varam called 'multiple tongues' can be claimed. This incident was first recorded in the bible, where it says when all followers of Jesus Christ gathered in an upper floor of a home. The Holy Spirit rested upon them, and they started speaking in 'multiple tongues'. When the passerby noticed noise coming from the upper floor of a house, they thought that people in that floor are drinking and partying, but then when they paid attention to what they were saying, they were surprised to hear their language. They said, "how come these Galileans know and speak our language. They are speaking things, and we all are hearing it in our own language". This is how it is believed to have happened with Thomas too with Indians here.
This is the gift called 'multiple tongues'. It is believed that this is one among the 7 gifts that Spirit of God will give to his people who does what Jesus commanded to do, I.e, to spread the gospel about Jesus Christ, which is about his birth and reason, death and resurrection, and the most importantly HIS SECOND COMING.
I hope I did justice to your question. Thank you. God loves you all.
Good to see you guys back... Great content....
Thank you :)
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Woww... . Thank you so much for the story .. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 May God bless u all
Really curious to know in which language St. Thomas delivered his speeches to the locals both in Kerala and in Chennai. Really fascinating piece of history.
Probably with the help of a translator from spice trade. There were plenty at that time if you paid them.
Well in the Christian traddition it is believed that they were given the divine power of tongues by the Holy Spirit at Pentacost.
There is jewish settelment in kerala they are talking both aramic and local languges spice traders st thomas send to preach about messia to them they are the first accepted jesus now also comparing to other Christian community we following some Jewish traditions and called by locals Nazrani
Must be with Tamil translators
Malayalam did not exist then
Very fascinating. Thank you
Thomas the Apostle
India's oldest church, claimed to be the world's oldest existing church structure and built by Thomas the Apostle in 57 AD, called Thiruvithamcode Arappally or Thomaiyar Kovil as named by the then Chera king Udayancheral, is located at Thiruvithamcode in Kanyakumari District of Tamil Nadu, India.
No India's oldest church is Palayur church, in Thrissur ,Kerala which was built by St Thomas . Arappally church was built much later by st. Thomas himself during his journey.
Good way of explaining the history of Christianity
Thank you Lord for sending your disciple Thomas to spread your Word to the land of India especially Kerala🙏❤
Fake stry
@@imlucifer5040 no
@@drdoofenshmirtz7620 fake 🤣
@@imlucifer5040 saying fake and putting a laugh emoji on a topic you have no clear knowledge about doesn't make it fake. Christians excited centuries before the British or Dutch even though about invading. There is enough conclusive evidence to prove that.
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This is such a cool and informative channel
Christian best persons 💯 helping peoples 🙏❤️ my family saved Christans family 🙏🙏😍
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St. Marcus has a great cathedral in Egypt where we burried his head.Rest of his reman still in Vatican -Rome There is tombs for James the lesser and Saimo the Thalat at Rome Italy in small church.
Loved the way you explained. Keep sharing knowledge in your style ❤️
Thank you :)
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St. Thomas didn't visit Kerala. Do some research before you make you tube videos please.
Here's the truth about St.Thomas
From Jesuit archives:
In 1507,Portuguese viceroy Almedia asked Jesuits about the place where St. Thomas died, so they could build a church there.
Jesuits declared that St.Thomas was "martyred" on mount of Tirumala (Tirupati) and it was a religious duty to build a church there.
A search party comprising of Portuguese soldiers,Jesuit missionaries & Armenian merchants started out for "the holy land of Thomas" and headed towards Tirupati. It was intercepted by soldiers of Vijayanagara Viranarasimha. A pitched battle ensued and the Portugese were repulsed. There were no "search parties" for the next 10 years.
Then in 1517, another search party got ready. This time, Armenian merchants persuaded a group of Portuguese soldiers returning from Melakka to travel to Mylapore, which was now claimed as the place of St. Thomas Martyrdom.
This St.Thomas Mount in mylapore was a hindu holy place called Sage Bringi Hill.
No St. Thomas ever visited India. Do you know there are 14 churches in the world which claim they have the tomb of St.Thomas.
6 of them are in South India
St.Thomas marched towards Armenia from Syria but uneducated malayalees like you claim he came to Kerala 😂
@@p.kprasan5356 sir, with all respect, you are behaving like an uneducated one by telling "uneducated malayalees"....now u say that st Thomas didn't come to Kerala and u have no strong proofs backing that up....Historical records prove with authentic evidence that Saint Thomas the Apostle really visited India. The Indian Council for Historical Research (ICHR) found several historical records and traditions that authenticate Apostle Thomas traveled by sea to India in AD 52. The accurate historical references show that he was later martyred and buried in Mylapore region of Tamilakam (Indo-Parthian Kingdom)., which are now Kerala and Tamil Nadu during Sangam Period after witnessing to thousands in the region...next time when u make a statement ,make sure to back that up....Not by telling some stories centuries after(here u talk about medieval history which is far away from thomas's time)
@@joeljacobfelix4871
The New Testament came into existence only in the fourth century, after the Council of Nicaea called by Roman Emperor Constantine in 325 AD.
The first Christians came to India with the Syrian merchant Thomas Cananeus in 345 AD escaping persecution in Persia.
It was not Apostle Thomas but a merchant called Thomas Cananeus.
The authors of the Bible made "Barnasha" a martyr & gave him a name "Jesus" & FOOLED the world.
After that calling a merchant "Thomas Cananeus" as "Apostle Thomas" is just a piece of cake.
Christians must stop calling a merchant as Apostle. You shouldn't be so STUPID & INSANE to believe that.
@@p.kprasan5356 #first of all, the new testament is not just a book.....it contains many books written by the apostles about things they witnessed by living with Jesus....the letters they wrote independently to the kings were then collected by the council and then we got the 'new testament collected book' ,i.e,the collection was done only in the 3rd century....so new testament was not created in the third century it was simply piled up together
#And about the Syrian merchant thingy...there are evidence from various elite research centers which tells us about the existence of christians in India in the first century...moreover Thomas Cananeus brought communities from Mesopotamia and the community is now known as 'cananaya community'...but what annoys me is that u bring up facts to falsify other facts. WHAT A BLUNDER!!!!!
# BARNASHA in Aramic means 'son of man'. Jesus referred to him as 'son of man' and he spoke Aramaic
therefore he referred to him as 'BARNASHA'
it is easy to fool people when they are fooling themselves and you fooled yourself by hearing to those who did no research but simply want to bring some dump points against religion because they hate the religion....but thanking you for letting people know about the word barnasha and the merchant Thomas who found his own church in India...And before you post something somewhere,please spend some time on it and learn something about it
From the doubting apostle that would not believe that Christ had risen from the dead, until he was able to place his fingers in the nail holes, to now the founder of Christianity, in India. Wow, obviously he was in no doubt after what he had seen to travel so far and risk his life for the Messiah
Thanks a ton for this wonderful piece of information.
Most welcome!
unbiased History... Nice Articulation and Narration... Easy to Understand...
Wow.. this is a brilliant channel!
Glad you think so!
Interesting Piece of Info.
Please do a video on how language barriers were removed to preach. that way we can also know about ancient world languages
Most probably in Tamil the then language of Kerala and present-day Tamil Nadu. There was no Malayalam language at that time. Modern Malayalam is just a few centuries old. Largely born from middle Tamil. It was then the Tamil Cheral kingdom
There was spice trade even during Roman period and when there's trade, there's translators. You can either pay them or slave them or befriend them. Multiple ways. For trade a common language is always required and it changed according to popularity. Today it is English, before it was persian and even before it was Greek etc. So simply they might have found a local translator for aramic to Malayalam or some random merchant who can speak the local Malayalam during that time.
The way of explaining and your vacabulary is very very interesting keep it alll❤❤❤
I love st Thomas story it beautifully told I would love to visit Chennai so I can visit the tomb of St Tomas 👏🏼
Jesus said 'I am the son of God, father forgive them they don't know what they are doing'' Jesus himself told it and people like you with half knowledge declare him God. Only lord Krishna said I am complete, I create entire creation and enter creation immerge within me. In the west people left Christianity and missionaries came here to promote their narrow-mindedness. According to the bible, the earth is flat, only two ways after death one permanent heaven and another permanent hell after death, they bury the dead body to preserve it till judgment day who fear and believe Jesus and his father get eternal life with the body they bury. What a narrow-minded belief people are following without knowing it. People's emotions and faith are misguided by low spiritual practices in Christianity.
@@iamq1901 In South East Asia, people left Hindu. What is really ur point? These countries give people choice unlike ur place. Your deity's claim from your book is not important for us. And no, bible never explicitly claimed the shape of earth.
I guess at the time referred that place u mentioned was defacto TN. Further, was the second place that accepted Christianity , Constantinople ( ie now Turkey) in 312 CE? Thanks. Best wishes
If you could research Kaduthuruthy Church Sasanam (giving land for the church), or a similar church. This if I remember correctly was written in Tamil vattezhuthu, before Malayalam formed in the 13th century. That could settle a lot of dust that Christianity was in India before the Portuguese. Also the church in Piravom in Ernakulam district of Kerala, has a legend that the Magi visited the place after visiting the infant Jesus in the manger, aptly named as the Three king's church. A humble request to the researchers here. Would be happy to know the truth!
A comprehensive balanced discussion especially in light of the ongoing debates around the historical accuracy of the apostolic age. I would however question the conclusion drawn on the Christianisation of Armenia and early Christians in India. Armenia was the first country in the world to make Christianity a state religion in the 4th century CE. But that doesn’t mean Christianity only came to Armenia in the 4th century CE. Christianity was also trickling through the Mediterranean countries in the first century and it took time to build a significant mass before these countries became fully/mostly Christian. In India while christianity was purported to have been introduced around the same time it did not became a state religion.
We Christians in Kerala never dreamed of a Christian state. Hindus always been our best supporters and we supported Hindus throughout all ups and downs, till today.
ST thomas actually made 7 churches in kerala before going to Tamilnadu. Churches mean communitys. Later these churches come under control of Assyrian Orthodox church who came by sea . This is why certain Christians in kerala called syro malabar church. Syro means syria, malabar means kerala. Later when Portuguese came they tried make these Christians to Catholic church. Either by force or by preaching. This lead to conflict. Some remained in Orthodox control of Anthiyoke. Some converted Catholics who is controled by Pope in rome. Later others came Dutch, British and all spread Christian belief in some way or other.
7 and a half.. from my understanding of it.. almost all along the banks of Periyar River, which was navigable at the time and a lot of trade moved through it..
That was not the Apostle St.Thomas.
Apostle Thomas & Merchant Thomas are two different people.
It was a Syrian (or Armenian) merchant Thomas Cananeus in 345 AD. He led four hundred refugees who fled persecution in Persia and were given asylum by the Hindu authorities.
@@p.kprasan5356 get some sense old man. That thomas has known as knanyithoman. They are knanya group.
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Do some research before you come here & talk nonsense like thousands of Kerala Christians, who have NO CLUE of history.
St. Thomas if he had visited could not have preached Christianity in 52 AD because Christianity and the New Testament came into existence only in the fourth century, after the Council of Nicaea called by Roman Emperor Constantine in 325 AD.
The main sources relating to Apostle Thomas are two Gnostic (non-Biblical) texts known as the Acts of Thomas and the Gospel of Thomas.
According to them Thomas was the twin brother of Jesus. For this reason the Thomas myth is not accepted by the Vatican because of a doctrinal problem: Jesus as the Only "Son of God" cannot possibly have a twin brother. (Greek for Thomas is Didymus, which means twin brother.)
@@p.kprasan5356 Thomas was the apostle of Christ . Yes he is called as the twin . This doesn't mean the he is the twin brother of Christ . This has nothing to do with eternal sonship of jesus and god the Father. Because jesus existed with father from the beginning. It is heresy to say jesus was created . The catholic Church teaches on the perpetual virginity of Mary . This means that Mary was an ever virgin even after jesus birth. there is a conflict about Thomas in India. They are many tradition about him .
Thanks bring the history in a wonderful way ..
God had India in mind! Beautiful
God is Shri Hari VISHNU not your fake crossman
India Needs more saints like St.Thomas to rid india of so many idol Gods with Demonic intentions to destroy Christianity So is the power of the Cross who died for all Non Believers that one day he wii come again
@@josephnarcis306 Lmao how delusion
@@dharmapersona2084 yeah don't cross your limit
@@renijoy962 cursed
So interesting. I wonder what language he preached in and how he picked it up and communicated proselytising messages in it. And if he was influenced by local faiths.
There's already local jews , maybe they translate for him or he have the divine power or the story is a myth
A very well done video, good job!
Thank you!
*As a Telugu Christian, I'm proud to be a South Indian Christian. Praise the Lord for Apostle Thomas: a TRUE missionary*
2.5 percent in India is still a huge number considering Indian population
Such a beautiful story told equally beautifully. Thanks.
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GOD BLESS YOU FOR THIS VIDEO
Dear Madam so beautifully said and the two of you have done your presentation so good no words can compare thank you Madam & Sir for keeping us all so informed may god bless you for Gods Inspiration on the two of you love yourell so Much
I love India because it has everything. The largest democracy in the world!
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Given this background, it is no surprise that as early as 1507, the Portuguese Viceroy Almeida sent out a preliminary expedition to south to look for the tomb of St Thomas the Apostle . As observed, any discovery of St. Thomas would legitimise their conquests. However, the first mission was a total failure and Portuguese failed to find what they were looking for.
This is amazing!
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How reliable is this story and Where did other apostles go?
I hate the fact that some missionaries are mocking Christianity in the name of conversion.Tagging Jesus with Yoga poses etc.
This seems wrong.
Spread the message, whoever humbles himself and accepts HIS Grace let them. Why force them.
SUCH HOCUS POCUS & MUMBO JUMBO IS BEST UNDERSTOOD AS "CHRISTIAN SUPERSTITION & BLIND FAITH."
AMAZING THAT THE BLIND ARE LEADING THE BLIND, IN THE ERA OF SCIENCE & RATIONALITY.
@@tomkunnel411 Hey, Even my House name is Kunnel but I am a Hindu . 🤔
Excellent presentation
Jews never forget their roots & their extended family members. The Jews who were traders in the south of India who settled a long time, as early as 2500BC, in today's Kerala, is the proof of the birth of Christianity early on. Jews synagogues & burial sites are still in Cochin. Hope we preserve it. One of the disciples who was St. Thomas, a jew, had traveled from jerusalem to convince those Jews (brown Jews) who lived in Cochin and nearby places to adopt faith in Christ. Those converted became the first Christian group, whom we today call Syrian Christians or Nazarani Christians. Later, more traders from Mesopotamia, Greece, Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, and Persia who came to Malabar to carry out trade with the Middle East, Rome and Africa settled in this part. They married and settled, married local people and thus became the first Christian society. This is why they still, Syrian Christians, use Syriac (Aramaic in prayers) & hold relations with Middle Eastern churches, churches in Greece, Iraq, Egypt, Turkey, and Damascus. This group was later split by the Portuguese (Syro Malabar, 1655 & Chaldean (mesapotamia/Iraq) Syrian Christians (Syrian Christians/Nazarani/Jacobites)), and the English (Marthomite, 1890). The further split happened for various reasons - Pentecost, Malankara catholic (1930), and Jacobite (1975). The years given are approximate, not exact. The root Christian group is currently known as the Malankara Orthodox Church. Forgot, another notable group that came and settled in was Kananites, later known as the knanaya christians.
I am from odisha and i am a roman Catholic Christian. I like Kerala and people of Kerala because they obey God. I am so proud to be Christian.
hi! Can I contact with you please?
@@trustinle.2705 may i know your name and State please?
@@amitkumarpradhan2529 I'm Alex, and I'm from Viet Nam. I'm doing a scientific study on Catholicism in India, so I hope I can find somebody may help me with some information about it, please.
@@trustinle.2705where are you now bro?
@@amitkumarpradhan2529 I'm at Viet Nam now.
Could someone clarify whether he's the same st Thomas whos gospel was rejected by the church or diff....?
The Gospel of Thomas is an apocryphal work written hundreds of years after St. Thomas died.
You guys totally skipped the Parthain king Gondaphares of Pakistan, "Gandapur" in Pashto, and "Gaspard" in Christian tradition, described as both Persian and Indian in western literature, but in fact Sakistan/Scythia situated between Persia and India. He was a major player in bringing Christianity to India. His writings are still found in parts of northwest Pakistan.
because all that have no evidence just like the bit where people think jesus is burried in kashmir.
In 1933, Choudhry Rehmat Ali, a Cambridge University student, came up with the idea of a Muslim nation called Pakistan. Till then there was NO PAKISTAN.
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I am a Hindu but appreciate this story. We sure have a diverse history.
Do you know why the castes are camed in india
@@mershkerking4500 Yes, the term "Caste" itself brought by the Europeans to divide Indians and rule
@@NativeVsColonial but in other countries ,there are no casts like in bsdk india ,do you know usa is a christians country and dubai is a muslim country ,in dia is a hindu country but where did the bsdk muslims and christians camed to india
@@NativeVsColonial india is a worst country like africa ,india is a africa 2.0
Gospel came to India early but the Indian churches did not seem to be active in spreading forth the gospel. When will the Indian churches awake from her slumber?
Congratulations for this wonderful piece of information... please continue. 🙏
Lol, stop worshiping that ded guy, your jeebus don't even had a historical evidence of existence, it was a lie made up by the aristocrats, churches to control masses like you.
@@NativeVsColonial Mr.Native...you are a pacca fraud and ignorant being...if at all you are a living being... 😃 There are historical evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ.
@@josemangalamkunnel1689 Fraud was your Jeebus, that scammed Natives like me, and still scamming
@@NativeVsColonial First you learn how to write Jesus... shame on you.
@@josemangalamkunnel1689 Jeebus died for his sins, shame on jeebus.
We Hindus have no problem with any Religon, We resepct all Religions and Gods, We also condemn any attacks against Minorities by Hindu Radicals.
May Jesus bless India !!!
Also equally condemn deceit and pressure tactics used by Christian Healthcare and Educational institutions in the name of Jesus. Jesus wont bless Christians who indulge in such malpractice for conversions. Those Radicals exist because such wrong behaviours have gone unchecked for a long time.
St Thomas and St Bartholomew came together to India. Both came to Ophir seaport, that time kalyan diocese (Present Vasai in Maharastra) st Bartholomew stayed and preached in Kalyan and St Thomas went south to Kerala
No they both didn't come together St. Thomas came first to India he landed on the Port Muziriz of Kerala. Then After some years in 55 AD came St. Bartholomew , At Kallianpur in Karnataka and went preaching through Goa to Kalyan in Maharashtra, Which made him the second Apostle to land on the divine land of India.
I am from Kalyan. Vasai and Kalyan both are different cities.
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This is faith. Not history. If a statement is considered to be a history, certain criteria must be observed. History is a scientific way of pursuit to truth. Today, history is considered as a science. No statement given by science is eternal truth. Because, science is not stagnant.
All foolish bluff.jesus direct discipline never landed in India. He might have been visited Syria. The Thomas came to India is a Christian missionaries.
Wow , it's very interesting. Thank you. God bless.
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