I understand the idea of impact, but impact doesn't mean unfinished. I think there was definitely some things you could have done to finish up this chair, especially after eden mentioned the hanging triangle piece hit her face as she sat down. Tying up and neatenting the rope a bit, making sure the hanging triangles hung only to the sides or hung higher. I have no doubt that you'll sell this chair, but I'm not sure how long the buyer will want to use it before it takes more energy to sit in the chair than the person has. Impact is important but so is usability.
Based on the replies to comments, it doesn’t seem like the creator is genuinely interested in critical feedback. It’s difficult to absorb, especially when things become personal, but critique is way of growth that is necessary for artists and artisans. And that has nothing to do with subjective tastes but with quality, intent, “impact” and reception. I’m all for observing and engaging with art I don’t personally like, but there’s a difference when you can feel the final product doesn’t match the stated intention. If the stated intention was to make a high end piece of furniture, he’s significantly off the mark. I value the time and energy put here, but from the get go it was all kinda doomed. The prototyping is important but it was missing key features that really signify what makes a “luxury” product beyond brand, from deeper design considerations to a mediocre dive into materiality, to a very haphazard construction that in the very video got feedback that should have propelled the design further. Experimentation is the cornerstone of any good artists, but truly successful ones take experimentation (failures and all) and refine and perfect. Those chairs cost that much money because so much time and energy are used to distill an idea into a truly finished form. From materials (I’ve seen chairs use kangaroo leather because it’s a higher performance), to research, to every detail. It’s what makes a master wood worker used only hand made joints, that consideration. He doesn’t have to use hand made joints and all the trials were very fun to watch and equally stressful to be in (I imagine)-the video of course being another product-but I’m left with a sense of disappointment. He mentions learning to be more patient, but doesn’t seem to practice it. He mentions impact to be more sellable but doesn’t define what that impact truly is, beyond “some people will love it and others will hate it” (which is true of absolutely anything, even the most generic designs). It seems more like an experiment couched in emotional terms to appeal to the ethos of viewers and garner more revenue. Which, more power to you, that’s great in this economy, especially being able to monetize what is clearly a passion. But it feels like a disingenuous way of engaging in a larger conversation, one about design, copyright, production, value, etc without actually adding anything to it.
@@Elirum yeah I fully agree with everything you said here. not to mention how little thought he put into the engineering of the chair. He built it as if it was just an art project, but engineering matters just as much, if not more than, the design if you want to make useable furniture. Like the fact that he even tried to use a random drift wood stick as the main holder/ distributor of the weight. Drift wood can be pretty and light but it's not really known to be strong you know? Like sure he at least thought before he used the 3D printed parts for any of the structural integrity, but that's really not enough. Also while it might be comfortable to sit in short term I can't imagine it'll be comfortable to sit in for any length of time. I think this chair really will just end up being used as an art piece rather than a piece of furniture, and if that was the goal than he did it! While I don't personally like it (for the reasons mostlyghostey mentioned) since the highest bid is currently $8k people clearly do. Just wish he'd honestly said that was the goal. I donno the whole video rubbed me the wrong way even tho it was entertaining...
@@YukiDemonOfHell idk it feels like a stretch to give him credit for it as an art piece considering he got the idea from generative ai. The creative process seems as half baked as the engineering.
@@Tayturs he only got the inspiration from ai tho? like looking at the ai images and the final product you can see how different the 2 are. He also came up with the colors and color pattern on his own. While I do agree it's a bit haphazardly designed artistically, tbh that doesn't matter as much when it comes to art, there are pleanty of famous artists that just threw paint (with specifically picked out colors) on a canvas. If he'd even attempted to make the ai thing 1:1 I'd probably agree with you, but he really didn't. While with engineering you Have to be precise about it, especially when it's something someone is supposed to use frequently or carry human weight for any significant amount of time.
Her "oh?!?" reaction on turning around was honestly the best summary of this end result. Hitting your head on debris to get into the chair, masses of unruly tangling rope hanging off the sides, and no work on tension variance to support the sitter where needed. And because of removing that section instead of altering the tension in the back, you dramatically drop the supportive strength of the rope and put more stress on the 3d prints.
It's basically a non-stretch fabric. When you use fabric to make anything form-fitting, you don't just drape a flat sheet around the form, you assemble it from shaped panels connected at their edges.
I've seen some crochet patterns that work around this issue by having triangle/square/pentagon/hexagon versions of the same motif (same length per side, for interchangeability.)
FYI, for future reference, if you want to get a soft things like rope to go through a long hole, don't push it. Pull it. Use a piece of solid core wire, push that through the hole, have a hook on the end, attach your rope and then pull it back through. Or even just a much thinner rope like dental floss, easier to get through the solid hole, to then pull the thicker rope through. Helped my mom out by threading a cluple hundred pull strings on laundry bags for the NHS a few years ago. A copper wire made it so much easier. Though with fabric you still have the issue of getting past pleats in the fabric.
A Paracord "fid", basically a needle with the eye in axis instead of at right angles, would help too. I've used them for all sorts of weaves, should be perfect for threading stuff through holes.
They use fishtape for this in electrical work, basically a thick solid core wire! I was watching the video thinking that a fishtape could totally have done the string pulling way faster.
If you want it to wrinkle less, you could selectively remove pieces from the grid. If you assemble 7 or more of the pieces around a central point and then connect the ends, forming a loop, they'll be forced into a pringle/saddle shape. If you assemble 5 or fewer into a loop, they'll make a bowl/cone. By stitching together flat sections with sections with this inherent curvature, you can make any shape that you want, though I'm guessing it'd be a lot harder to assemble.
Hi Morley, I think the chair could retain the back if you use a wider C shape beam to support the entire structure instead of a long straight beam, to achieve that chair like look and be able to lie back on it
Morley, a bidding war doesn’t reflect the intrinsic value of the chair itself. At this point, you're a RUclipsr people are excited to watch, and what they'll be REALLY bidding on is YOUR work. It’s not about how much the chair is worth-it’s about how much a Morley chair is worth at this point. People will want to own something you’ve created, like buying art. The bidding reflects your value as a creator, not just the chair’s. Congrats on making it ! ;)
Just because the value is linked to the creator/maker doesn’t mean the valuation is wrong. Most luxury furniture pieces are created by a famous designer (Le Corbusier, Eames, etc.)
@@MorleyKert You're absolutely right-the evaluation of the chair itself is still valid. I’m just saying the price is going to be higher because YOU made it. If I were to make the exact same chair on my own 3D print farm and try to sell it, I wouldn’t get nearly the same price since I’m a nobody. I’m not sure if we’re saying the same thing here, but either way-cool chair!
@@MorleyKert I would still argue that auctions don't really give a real estimate for a general value either though. It will go to whoever is willing to throw the most money at it, which is really just whoever has the most money. I have lots of older cameras in my possession, mostly GoPros from 10 or so years ago. To me, they have lots of value. To other's they really don't. 1080p isn't impressive anymore but I value their design and build quality much more than the newer models. So I guess value is a subjective thing, is it not? Your chair could sell for $350 in two weeks time but if the right person found it, it could have sold for $3500. You see what I mean?
22:40 currently at $5,800 about 5 hours after posting, I expected to see well over the $1500 he said, but I definitely think it's possible he might actually see that "impossible" $10k now. The people buying this type of thing aren't considering cost, rather how much they want it.
@@IM2awsme I think the thing people miss watching videos like this, is we can learn to make our own "shiny rocks". I develop products in a different niche, but like a lot of people I don't have any formal training on the subject. The Internet (especially RUclips) has such a vast amount of knowledge that you can absolutely teach yourself any skill you can think of if you put in the effort.
I enjoy your works, even though my tastes are more traditional. Keep it up. One suggestion: As someone who grew up on the water, where knots are an important part of daily life, the name of the knot is pronounced bow (like beau) lynn (not line) so if you think beau-lynn you'll be good. Lots of old pronunciations on the water, gunwale is pronounced gunnel and so forth. Next week on "knots so funny" we'll talk about boom-vangs and Plimsoll lines - neither of which are knots ; ). Take care.
I honestly kind of hate the chair, but I love the process and your commitment to showing it off. I hope you make a lot of money from the sale. Thanks for the awesome video. Here's hoping 2025 is your best year yet!
Wow I really love how the "fabric" bunched up at the bottom when you first hung the chair. Granted, doesn't look comfy, but it almost looks like an afghan blanket thrown onto a table that naturally wrinkled or something. Really cool final product!
I honestly feel like there's room for improvement on the design, and would love to see a followup on such. Just something about it feels messy where the designer furniture brands that seemed to have inspired the project appear very simple yet unit. Maybe that's just my personal take.
I thought when he showed his wife the chair he was going to rework it, because seeing her sit in the chair I already saw many user, functionality, and cosmetic errors. It definitely needs a lot of cleaning up imo
i personally don’t think he accomplished either form or function with this piece, and the fact that he had to find his inspiration through ai generated images in the first place and not through researching how to create a cool design that actually functions well as a chair just left a bad taste in my mouth
@@ollietree03 I do feel like I'm losing my mind reading the rest of these comments.. why would anyone consider this "chair" to be worth anything at all? A bidding war promoted by a million+ viewed YT video is hardly a reflection of a good's actual value, and this chair would obviously sell for much much less without the promo.
Designer brands typically have trial and errors to make sure their product is worth the investment, or so I'd like to believe anyway. So all of the concepts and aesthetics also help feed into the comfort and enjoyment of the piece. This piece... isn't there yet. It is like the rough draft version Granted, there are a lot of products which get pushed out before completion... but those typically aren't first or second draft, but a bit later down the line when they HAVE to have something out due to funds and such running low
21:55 I like how the auction ends in the past. You've just betrayed your time-traveler secret!
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I love the persistence, I like the confidence, and I appreciate the time you put into this project. I also enjoyed the video editing, so I watched the whole thing-great job! However, as the owner of a very similar hanging chair (Amazonas Brasil Gigante, if you want to look it up), I don't see any benefit to the 3D-printed design. It doesn't give the chair a different form factor, nor does it add any advantages. It’s simply more expensive and harder to produce, offering at best the same-or even worse-comfort. When no one is sitting in it, the pattern gets mashed and crumpled. For me, this feels like 3D printing for its own sake. There’s no real benefit from using different materials and tessellating triangles. While it’s fun to have something one of a kind, I would still choose my mass-produced hanging hammock chair over this one. I hope this feedback helps with future projects. I wish you all the best!
The whole point is to be a unique and somewhat functional art piece, which is the goal of most high end designer furniture and it accomplishes it in my opinion
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@@DemsW Yes, but is it really unique and functional? Previous designs that copied chairs featured shapes which were difficult to achieve using any method other than 3D printing, and they were vastly different from regular chairs. This time around, the project looks exactly like a wildly popular hanging chair, and the 3D-printed pieces do not modify or add to its shape-they simply exist. In my opinion, adding simple wooden beads made from exotic wood would look better and more premium than plastic, and none of the project’s form would be lost. It would still be mesh material with a beam. I thought 3D printing had more to offer than just producing a lot of parts and connecting them together-none of the unique benefits of 3D printing are being utilized here.
It is a matter of opinion in the end, some people liked it, personally I don't but I see why it would be considered unique as I've not seen another chair made up of many many smaller pieces strung with rope
Plastic hammock sounds like an uncomfortable piece of furniture, but at least it's certainly unique. Google has an entire wing of a floor of their NYC office dedicated to Lego with furniture literally built with Lego, so it can't be more uncomfortable than that.
One thing to think about for any future designs is posture. A lot of these luxury chairs also come with the hidden chiropractor cost that'll hit ya in 10-20 years.
I’m so impressed with this project. When you pulled it in the air for the first time, it looked so pleasing yet alien…which is the best result of a unique design. Just awesome work!
@@lesternomo6578 she was saying that for most modern art she "thinks her child could do this," but for this chair she said "i dont think my child could do this." it was a compliment to the chair, and an insult to modern art, not the other way around.
Morley I really appreciate the technical aspects of your videos of course, but, I must also tell you how much I appreciate your optimism and great attitude. You always leave me in a better mood than when I start with you, good sir! Thank you
I know I’m late here but I feel like there could’ve been more adjustments to this chair, mostly functionality wise. Creator said that one of the things he felt like he accomplished was not rushing things, but at the end, he did not take the time to modify the chair to be easier to sit in. He just rushed to put it up for auction even though his wife didn’t seem too happy about the product. Sure, you can claim “impact” but one thing luxury products have is usability as well. They take money and time to find quality materials to make products that work. Yes, it might take more time to craft the item and fix little details, but that’s why they’re usually marked at a higher price point.
hey this project is so cool! I would like to mention that using ai in stuff like this does more than just using potentially stolen content from artists and designers, but it also shows the ai companies that they should keep shoving ai into everything, Id avoid putting much if any emphasis on this in the future, that being said, that is simply my perspective, take from it what you will, and keep up this awesome content!
@@Zorae42 I think we're talking about scale here, though. According to some really quick research for numbers, Google's everything (which is RUclips plus GMail etc) use approximately 4.3 billion gallons annually, meanwhile the projections I'm finding online are saying that AI use is projected to use 1.1 trillion. That's a 255 times difference. That means that the same time RUclips is using a bathtub full of water, AI is using a home swimming pool size portion at the same time. Neither is great, but one is worse?
@@dytabytes "Projected to use" ? So not actual use. Not to mention that most of the consumption is in the training. Afterwards, anyone can put the model onto a local system and use no water at all. And, AI developers are incentivized to reduce water usage because they want lower costs to run their stuff. It's not like bitcoin where the increase to computing power is built into the model. The truth is that all data centers use a lot of water, not just AI. And so anyone protesting AI for it's water consumption also should be protesting MMOs or any online game server honestly, streaming services, and anything that stores a large amount of data digitally. But they aren't. Because they don't actually care, they're just making up things to support their "AI bad" reactionary beliefs.
@@RyanMercer I hear ya, but keep in mind Morley got huge views literally copying existing chairs. It's about the process and journey more than the end result!
Really cool project, I'm glad youtube recommended the video. Please also be aware of the environmental impact of using generative AI; it puts a huge toll on the environment by itself, let alone making multiple iterations or doing it may times to get results. Would much rather see you collaborating with your community.
15:24 I just cheered when I saw this. I'm an Eagle Scout and when I was in my early boy scout career, I went to an event called Klondike. It had a bunch of skill based stations and one of them was making a flagpole and getting it to stand using a few knots. My main knot was the four taut-line's at the bottom and adjusting them. It is my favorite knot to this day, and I always use it while camping. The Bowline knot is the rescue knot. It is good for keeping things in place (like when you have to pull someone up or out of a dangerous situation and you don't want the rope digging into them) but not the best for attaching a rope to a mount like a stake or tree to provide support.
Bowline is what you tie around yourself when you fall off a cliff and someone needs to pull you up, tautline is what you tie when something needs to be adjustable, but you can also tie two half hitches, which is the same knot with one less loop around.
Good luck on the auction, it looks to be at a very promising level. It might not be the type of chair I would ever buy, but I will absolutely watch the build process of something with interesting engineering and ingenuity. Good work on the project.
The idea was kinda great. But the execution was a bit meh. Next time, maybe start with designing the chair's shape. Then tessellate it and split it into small pieces. The pieces will have different shapes (maybe 3-5 different shapes in total). Base the final pieces (with tunnels) of off them. Make the wooden bar circular, or C-shaped, or even square, anything but straight.
A great craft to learn from, is knitting or crochet if you prefer. Yarn will humble you, force you to slow down and make good decisions, you will get comfortable pulling out hours of work, over and over again.
I really love your work! I'm certainly not super into furniture design, but I do study graphic design & love making art, so I totally love seeing your progress, thought process and how much time&money it took. I've only just subscribed but I hope we can see even more of your creative designs in the future :) But aside from that, I have one thing to add: It's best not to use generative AI for inspiration! I'm glad you didn't use it's "designs" and know it's just a ton of stolen stuff from the web meshed together, but AI is also *very* terrible for the environment. Those few minutes of brainstorming with it contribute a lot, unfortunately. I get looking for inspiration can be frustrating too, but it's best to take ur time and find several different things you like that inspire you and doodle a few prototypes
RUclips is worse for the environment, but you don't seem to mind. Not even considering that AI only needs a lot of power upfront for training but afterwards not as much, and the fact that it will be constantly getting more efficient.
@@_B_E RUclips provides millions of jobs (maintaining it, AND creators who use it), is a huge teaching tool, and a news source. AI generation is derivative and only rips jobs and money out of the hands of creatives. It provides absolutely nothing for the world.
@@_B_E Dumb argument. RUclips has a much wider use for way more people compared to gen ai. There is nothing gen ai can produce a person couldn’t, and couldn’t produce better. RUclips serves a unique function and though it does have a plagiarism problem, that is not the entire point of its functionality.
@@Tayturs the crux of their argument was environmental - factually, youtube is exponentially worse. even then, gen AI has value whether you agree or not.
@@_B_E ok sure, if you have zero interest in considering vital context for data and weighing important cost vs gain, one number is indeed higher than the other. Great logistical skills there.
For a future iteration, try making the barrel hinge 1/3 of the length of the wall, with a 3rd barrel strung loosely between two pieces to fill the gap. Then you can print a variety of sizes for the floating barrel to adjust the tolerance and space between triangles, allowing a wider range of motion. Would take a lot of experimenting and planning but I think you'd be able to get more natural looking curves in designated places, allowing you to build out a proper seat.
15:03 Pro Tip! Don't power carve toward your crotch. DON'T! I've been trying to start a 3D printing business for the last 6 months, but failing to generate ideas. This series has me thinking in whole new ways and considering things I hadn't before. Also, this chair is great. Love it.
My biggest beef with this is the focus on AI. You could've easily brainstormed with creators in your community or paid an artist. Using AI cheapens the experience and removes the soul out of the design. I'm not sure if you're aware of the negative environmental and economic impacts AI server farms have too. Education goes a long way. At the level of creator you are, you can afford supporting actual artists instead of plagiarism software companies. The overuse of AI in this sends the wrong message.
Agreed, especially since he mentionned in his video his desire of "making good choices he can be proud of", seemed so tone deaf knowing he used AI instead of collaborating with someone.
Aside from pinching whoever sits on this without a layer of padding, do these plastic triangles cause extra stress on the rope through pinching and friction? Is this basically a hammock with extra plastic bits making it possibly structurally less sound?
That color and style reminds me of my great-grandma’s quilts/knitted blankets. I would honestly love this if it were made of fabric. That thing ain’t holdin’ my weight, though. 😅
@@NickLavic He probably does and even I hate looking at them. I had never heard of trypophobia or even knew it existed until like 10 years ago watching a PewDiePie video where he was browsing his reddit page and came across a post on trypophobia and the commenter was asking if anyone suffers from it and literally just said it was a fear of a bunch of circles which I thought was nothing but then after seeing PewDiePie google the actual fear and seeing him feel super uneasy then I understood what it was and those examples I remember which included weird plants with lots of weird shaped holes in them literally mentally hurt my eyes. I hate looking at that crap and I also hate bugs (some types) and dogs but have no issues with anything else
I don’t really love it, but it’s so impressive that you created it! It reminds me of when I started my architecture degree and had to design a lamp for one of the subjects. Looking back, I don’t like the lamp I made and can think of a hundred ways I could have improved it. But at the time I did my best with the knowledge I had and I’m still proud of it! Designing furniture would’ve been a cool experience too, sometimes I think about doing it just for fun and to exercise creativity but it’s hard to find the time, maybe that’s why your videos resonate with me so much. Great job!
Everything ive liked up to the last point. I think some of the rope can be trimmed down and maybe its just me but i think you could easily solve the "your too scrunched up" problem by adding some sort of other support structure. Kind of like angled down arms from the main top body.
You power carving, no guard, towards your own leg gave me some real scrunchface. Real cool project! I saw some of Calder’s work in the Seattle Art Museum when I was visiting, very inspiring!
I almost didn't click because I couldn't tell it wasn't a re-upload, I clicked just to double check. need an arrow or highlight or something for the chair lol, the brightly colored ones draw focus
Knot tip: Bowlines aren't great for anchors that are going to be cyclically loaded. They are very easy to undo after holding a fixed load, but can come undone when loaded dynamically multiple times.
the bowline knot is an excellent knot for holding a fixed loop that will not tighten under any circumstances, which in cases other than yours will be extremely desirable or even critical to function, you just had the wrong tool for the job.
WHY _AREN'T_ YOU LIVE STREAMING THESE PRINTS?? No music, no interaction at all. Just the ambient noise & satisfaction of the printing process over & over & over again on repeat. Did you forget that humans have a love of weird unique stuff just like this? Try it, you could be pleasantly surprised. ❤❤
hammock is just more confortable with a simple hook to fix it. adding wood to making it more flat just reduce it's capability to adapt to someone morphology.
Unfortunately, the final price will not be the value of the chair at all, but the result of this video as an advertisement. So it will not be possible to compare it to previous projects or furniture from stores
I'm not sure bidding is an honest representation of value in this case. If you were to put it out on a bidding website, let it conclude and then post the video, then it would've actually been fair. Since the video released beforehand, people are inclined to give this chair more value than they otherwise would, be it subscribers or someone completely unfamiliar with your channel. It's especially unfair to let people bid on it on your own website only. People obviously give it additional value due to the chair being tied to your videos. Don't really mean to knock down the idea, but it's not the best way to find out what something you made would cost.
I agree, but I feel like the people who watch the video also now see how much effort was put into it, and can appreciate the work. Of course, some of them just want something from thier favorite RUclipsr and I think that’s fine as well. It isn’t really the value of the chair, but more of the value of the one who made it being represented if he posts the video.
You don't seem to understand luxury products. This is the chair from the video. The notoriety, the artist's name, and the amount it costs make it desirable, which raises the price. Do you think people buy Gucci and Loius Vuitton items because of quality or beauty? He addressed it in the video with the statements about impact. It's a 'free' chair. You can download the files and make one. The time that a Canadian laborer spent is not what makes this chair valuable. It's Morley Kert's chair from the video. The video is a part of the value.
@da3dsoul I understand that the video adds value, that was my point. The reason I was skeptical was that he compared himself to other creators on the market, who auction their works off on websites among other creators, yet he wants to see what this chair is "worth". If he doesn't put himself in the same conditions as everyone else, it's not a fair way to judge the chair's price.
12:00 The only thing I can think is "it is way easier to pull a piece of string than to push it". -- having a long slender hooked rod (electrician cable puller fish tape) would be rigid enough to push through all the holes in one go, hook the string, then pull it all back at the same time. Either way, cool build :D
One thing I’d say is that in an auction performed by a “known” creator to their fans, the market value of the chair will more reflect the value placed on the creator. It’s not a sure fire thing but it is something to consider if you care Regardless, neat chair
This pattern would be amazing for a hammock(?) just kinda do the same thing on the other side, toss a blanket over it, put it outside... I can see it, must be really chill!
PLEASE deactivate the AI-translations, this sounds awful! I was about to close this video when I realized there was "original audio" available. I mean, have you actually tried to listen to these translations? Sounds like synth-speech from the 1990
@ ah, well can't you turn it off? I feel like you should be able just turn it off at the beginning so you don't have to deal with it. (Sorry if I come off rude I don't mean to btw)
I'm fascinated by the process of creating this chair, but won't lie, the end result left a lot to be desired. But I actually think with some more thought and development ot could be really amazing. But I also totally understand if it was one of those things you just wanted to be done with. 😅
I just looked at the current bid amount and I just have to say I am so happy for you!!!! That is amazing and I hope it helps you to gain more confidence in your builds!! I enjoy watching your videos so much and the dance parties with your wife when you finish a build is one of my favorite parts!!! Thank you for creating beautiful thing and pushing the limit of what you can do with 3D printing, it is very inspirational
You know how you can make a paper plate stronger by bending it? That's because the plate has a (mathematical) Curvature of 0. That means it can only bend in 1 dimension. Objects usually have a Curvature that cannot change without damaging them, like a crease or tear. Since the triangles were strung together flat, the Curvature of the chair will always be about 0 with a little leeway from the folding at each hinge which acts like a crease. By tiling them on a shape with the curvature you want, you could make the chair form fit a little better. However, this would change a lot about the whole design. Think of this like sewing a garment so it has a particular shape rather than adjusting the shape of flat cloth. (Notes: Sphere-like things have positive Curvature, flat or cylindrical thing have 0 Curvature, and saddle-like things have negative Curvature.)
If you get $1500 for this chair, that's a decent hourly wage. It would be acceptable starting salary in my expensive country, but a tad on the low side. If you get $1800, I'd call the project entirely worth the effort. But would you make another? Could you get the total hours spent down? Could anything else be automated?
Having the final design of the 3d prints and the weave pattern already done, there's no time and money spent on RnD for any subsequent builds, so the turnover rate will definitely be much quicker.
Eh given the cost of the printers. The filament. The work required to assemble the chair and cleaning it all up makes me think it's not worth the effort even at 2.5k you are barely making average wage and this project isn't exactly a steady income opportunity so you need to make a lot more than average to justify it.
"I'm not going to just copy a midjourney result that was probably just stolen from 100 digital artists" - But you are going to display the results in a video for additional content. I don't get the whole 'I get it, AI is bad, don't be mad at me' attitude, while still using it and publicly promoting it is just normalizing the theft from those digital artists but I guess its easier than admitting that you know that AI is bad because its created from stolen assets and stolen data. But hey, it makes your life easier so their rights don't matter to you. Pretty gross to hear from another creator
I keep thinking about how cool it would have been to use this opportunity to do a collab with another creator. Someone who maybe knew more about engineering or design so the final product could have ended up better. And something that would have felt genuine and more inspiring.
Diffusion models are here to stay. You can't get rid of them, and anyone who refuses to use a tool that's available will be left behind. Ideally, we will get more ethically created models, maybe even with better indication of source material, but the previous point doesn't become invalid just because we don't have an ethical option yet. He researched and brainstormed in a traditional way, as well. John Malecki and Morley both used it the most ethically way possible, in my opinion. You are entitled to your wrong opinion. You are just among the people that claimed photography, photoshop, cinematography, etc aren't art when you completely reject a new tool. Everything we use is made with stolen labor and unethically sourced materials. You can be mad, but none of us can change it without starting an economically unviable AI startup.
@@da3dsoul Comparing gen ai to photography or digital art is a dumb, half baked talking point. It entirely misunderstands the core problem. Think. None of those other tech advancements rely SOLEY on COPYRIGHTED WORK to even function. It’s not the same. The value is derived EXCLUSIVELY from the labors being used without consent, not the tech by itself. Gen AI is entirely useless by itself. There will also never be an “ethical” version of this tech because the theft is inherent to how it works. It needs such a massive volume of data to generate anything coherent that if someone tried to ethically source and compensate for every item, it would never be financially sound. Hell, it’s arguably not even financially sound even when stealing its data. The people making this tech have zero intention of compensating the people who give it its value. They couldn’t afford it.
Hey Morely! I'd love to see more videos where you use your engineering skills to tackle the outdoors, as you did in your week-long, 3D-printer-assisted camping trip. Perhaps not always as long as a week, and now that you have access to a more fully equipped workshop you could use the intro to prepare ideas for a bit, rather than only coming up with ones on the spot; combining 3d-printing, woodworking and any of the other crafts that pop into mind. Take inspiration from your previous trip, and set goals like creating an item purposed for comfort, for food, for shelter, for convenience, for content creation etc. I love your stuff, your energy and outlook inspire me daily at the moment.
I feel like the original boho style macrame hammock chairs were better and more conceptually coherent pieces. This took that idea and weighed it down with plastic. I've seen many handmade versions of those chairs with wooden and glass beads, crystals and seashells sell for only $200.
love how eden is so supportive and just so honest straight to the point lol everyone needs someone like her
I also love how people act different on camera...
@@thomgizzizshe wasn’t acting that out of the ordinary tbh, just a decent person. I doubt she’s different off camera.
I have a someone I like that’s named Eden and looks the same, I gotta get her soon, though she isn’t related in WHAT THE FUCK AM I TALKING ABOUT
Yeaa
Without a doubt she is miserable and unsatisfied sexually
You should write some code that auto updates the title of this to the current highest bid every time it changes!
That would be cool
🚨 programmer detected 🚨
well i guess your name is nimvim
I believe that @tomscott did this on one of his videos
@ yes he did
I understand the idea of impact, but impact doesn't mean unfinished. I think there was definitely some things you could have done to finish up this chair, especially after eden mentioned the hanging triangle piece hit her face as she sat down. Tying up and neatenting the rope a bit, making sure the hanging triangles hung only to the sides or hung higher. I have no doubt that you'll sell this chair, but I'm not sure how long the buyer will want to use it before it takes more energy to sit in the chair than the person has. Impact is important but so is usability.
Based on the replies to comments, it doesn’t seem like the creator is genuinely interested in critical feedback. It’s difficult to absorb, especially when things become personal, but critique is way of growth that is necessary for artists and artisans. And that has nothing to do with subjective tastes but with quality, intent, “impact” and reception. I’m all for observing and engaging with art I don’t personally like, but there’s a difference when you can feel the final product doesn’t match the stated intention. If the stated intention was to make a high end piece of furniture, he’s significantly off the mark. I value the time and energy put here, but from the get go it was all kinda doomed. The prototyping is important but it was missing key features that really signify what makes a “luxury” product beyond brand, from deeper design considerations to a mediocre dive into materiality, to a very haphazard construction that in the very video got feedback that should have propelled the design further. Experimentation is the cornerstone of any good artists, but truly successful ones take experimentation (failures and all) and refine and perfect. Those chairs cost that much money because so much time and energy are used to distill an idea into a truly finished form. From materials (I’ve seen chairs use kangaroo leather because it’s a higher performance), to research, to every detail. It’s what makes a master wood worker used only hand made joints, that consideration.
He doesn’t have to use hand made joints and all the trials were very fun to watch and equally stressful to be in (I imagine)-the video of course being another product-but I’m left with a sense of disappointment. He mentions learning to be more patient, but doesn’t seem to practice it. He mentions impact to be more sellable but doesn’t define what that impact truly is, beyond “some people will love it and others will hate it” (which is true of absolutely anything, even the most generic designs). It seems more like an experiment couched in emotional terms to appeal to the ethos of viewers and garner more revenue. Which, more power to you, that’s great in this economy, especially being able to monetize what is clearly a passion. But it feels like a disingenuous way of engaging in a larger conversation, one about design, copyright, production, value, etc without actually adding anything to it.
@@Elirum yeah I fully agree with everything you said here. not to mention how little thought he put into the engineering of the chair. He built it as if it was just an art project, but engineering matters just as much, if not more than, the design if you want to make useable furniture. Like the fact that he even tried to use a random drift wood stick as the main holder/ distributor of the weight. Drift wood can be pretty and light but it's not really known to be strong you know? Like sure he at least thought before he used the 3D printed parts for any of the structural integrity, but that's really not enough.
Also while it might be comfortable to sit in short term I can't imagine it'll be comfortable to sit in for any length of time. I think this chair really will just end up being used as an art piece rather than a piece of furniture, and if that was the goal than he did it! While I don't personally like it (for the reasons mostlyghostey mentioned) since the highest bid is currently $8k people clearly do. Just wish he'd honestly said that was the goal. I donno the whole video rubbed me the wrong way even tho it was entertaining...
@@YukiDemonOfHell idk it feels like a stretch to give him credit for it as an art piece considering he got the idea from generative ai. The creative process seems as half baked as the engineering.
@@Tayturs he only got the inspiration from ai tho? like looking at the ai images and the final product you can see how different the 2 are. He also came up with the colors and color pattern on his own. While I do agree it's a bit haphazardly designed artistically, tbh that doesn't matter as much when it comes to art, there are pleanty of famous artists that just threw paint (with specifically picked out colors) on a canvas. If he'd even attempted to make the ai thing 1:1 I'd probably agree with you, but he really didn't.
While with engineering you Have to be precise about it, especially when it's something someone is supposed to use frequently or carry human weight for any significant amount of time.
honestly i love the rope, makes it feel natural
Her "oh?!?" reaction on turning around was honestly the best summary of this end result. Hitting your head on debris to get into the chair, masses of unruly tangling rope hanging off the sides, and no work on tension variance to support the sitter where needed. And because of removing that section instead of altering the tension in the back, you dramatically drop the supportive strength of the rope and put more stress on the 3d prints.
It's basically a non-stretch fabric. When you use fabric to make anything form-fitting, you don't just drape a flat sheet around the form, you assemble it from shaped panels connected at their edges.
I know right. The bunching is crazy.
Yeah, on a woven fabric piece one would use darts. This needs the equivalent.
I've seen some crochet patterns that work around this issue by having triangle/square/pentagon/hexagon versions of the same motif (same length per side, for interchangeability.)
3d print a cart
Yep. He could take some inspiration from Buckmister Fuller's domes
Love the progression: Please don't sue me---> Please don't sue me(again)---> They can't sue me.
Next one: "I Sued Them"
@@CrispyBoi-YT LMAO
@Gvlgs0 yk instead of putting it as a reply you can just put it as a normal comment
@Gvlgs0 hail devil
@@IntelligenceOverArrogance not funny.
FYI, for future reference, if you want to get a soft things like rope to go through a long hole, don't push it. Pull it. Use a piece of solid core wire, push that through the hole, have a hook on the end, attach your rope and then pull it back through.
Or even just a much thinner rope like dental floss, easier to get through the solid hole, to then pull the thicker rope through.
Helped my mom out by threading a cluple hundred pull strings on laundry bags for the NHS a few years ago. A copper wire made it so much easier. Though with fabric you still have the issue of getting past pleats in the fabric.
also, on the "3d print maker could perhaps use some advice from crafters" subject, it's pronounced 'bow-lynn'
A Paracord "fid", basically a needle with the eye in axis instead of at right angles, would help too.
I've used them for all sorts of weaves, should be perfect for threading stuff through holes.
For a crocheter, this is so real
They use fishtape for this in electrical work, basically a thick solid core wire! I was watching the video thinking that a fishtape could totally have done the string pulling way faster.
I watched this ONE DAY before two weeks was up!😂
"Please don't sue myself"
😂
@@MorleyKert OMG MORLEY
@@MorleyKertalso this is looking sick so far. The fabric is really modern looking
Then there’s some other youtuber 3d printing your chair and saying “please dont sue me”
@@Ham-nuggetgaming lol 🙂😂
Rip wizard staff. You’re magical in our hearts
If you want it to wrinkle less, you could selectively remove pieces from the grid. If you assemble 7 or more of the pieces around a central point and then connect the ends, forming a loop, they'll be forced into a pringle/saddle shape. If you assemble 5 or fewer into a loop, they'll make a bowl/cone. By stitching together flat sections with sections with this inherent curvature, you can make any shape that you want, though I'm guessing it'd be a lot harder to assemble.
Hi Morley, I think the chair could retain the back if you use a wider C shape beam to support the entire structure instead of a long straight beam, to achieve that chair like look and be able to lie back on it
That’s a great idea!
@@MorleyKert time for the sequel lol
thought the same… al that work, to just cut everything out🤦♂️
@@MorleyKertI have an idea for the shape that could be really cool if you wanted to try it
@@MorleyKert might have to use a full circle, just only use a c-shaped portion for it
Morley, a bidding war doesn’t reflect the intrinsic value of the chair itself. At this point, you're a RUclipsr people are excited to watch, and what they'll be REALLY bidding on is YOUR work. It’s not about how much the chair is worth-it’s about how much a Morley chair is worth at this point. People will want to own something you’ve created, like buying art. The bidding reflects your value as a creator, not just the chair’s. Congrats on making it ! ;)
Just because the value is linked to the creator/maker doesn’t mean the valuation is wrong. Most luxury furniture pieces are created by a famous designer (Le Corbusier, Eames, etc.)
@@MorleyKert You're absolutely right-the evaluation of the chair itself is still valid. I’m just saying the price is going to be higher because YOU made it. If I were to make the exact same chair on my own 3D print farm and try to sell it, I wouldn’t get nearly the same price since I’m a nobody. I’m not sure if we’re saying the same thing here, but either way-cool chair!
@@MorleyKert I would still argue that auctions don't really give a real estimate for a general value either though. It will go to whoever is willing to throw the most money at it, which is really just whoever has the most money.
I have lots of older cameras in my possession, mostly GoPros from 10 or so years ago. To me, they have lots of value. To other's they really don't. 1080p isn't impressive anymore but I value their design and build quality much more than the newer models. So I guess value is a subjective thing, is it not? Your chair could sell for $350 in two weeks time but if the right person found it, it could have sold for $3500. You see what I mean?
@@mitchib1440it’s already at $5800 as of this writing! Lol good for him
@@danielbocelli sheeeeeeeeeeeeesh!
22:40 currently at $5,800 about 5 hours after posting, I expected to see well over the $1500 he said, but I definitely think it's possible he might actually see that "impossible" $10k now. The people buying this type of thing aren't considering cost, rather how much they want it.
Yeah thats what I just came here to say. I think the our boy found his niche.
Your entire lives earning/spending, from birth to funeral is only a fraction of what some people will spend on shiny rocks. 😅 we live in a society
@@IM2awsme I think the thing people miss watching videos like this, is we can learn to make our own "shiny rocks". I develop products in a different niche, but like a lot of people I don't have any formal training on the subject. The Internet (especially RUclips) has such a vast amount of knowledge that you can absolutely teach yourself any skill you can think of if you put in the effort.
Do you need a credit card to bid or is this just a bunch of people messing around?
@@iangomes yeah, it becomes a bit like people gonna bid whatever just to see the price go up - there isnt really a serious bidding platform.
I enjoy your works, even though my tastes are more traditional. Keep it up. One suggestion: As someone who grew up on the water, where knots are an important part of daily life, the name of the knot is pronounced bow (like beau) lynn (not line) so if you think beau-lynn you'll be good. Lots of old pronunciations on the water, gunwale is pronounced gunnel and so forth. Next week on "knots so funny" we'll talk about boom-vangs and Plimsoll lines - neither of which are knots ; ). Take care.
How’d he ignore you
@@JellyWade he is selfish
@@AG-gv9cb now your assuming
I honestly kind of hate the chair, but I love the process and your commitment to showing it off. I hope you make a lot of money from the sale. Thanks for the awesome video. Here's hoping 2025 is your best year yet!
Wow I really love how the "fabric" bunched up at the bottom when you first hung the chair. Granted, doesn't look comfy, but it almost looks like an afghan blanket thrown onto a table that naturally wrinkled or something. Really cool final product!
I honestly feel like there's room for improvement on the design, and would love to see a followup on such. Just something about it feels messy where the designer furniture brands that seemed to have inspired the project appear very simple yet unit. Maybe that's just my personal take.
I thought when he showed his wife the chair he was going to rework it, because seeing her sit in the chair I already saw many user, functionality, and cosmetic errors. It definitely needs a lot of cleaning up imo
i personally don’t think he accomplished either form or function with this piece, and the fact that he had to find his inspiration through ai generated images in the first place and not through researching how to create a cool design that actually functions well as a chair just left a bad taste in my mouth
@@ollietree03 I do feel like I'm losing my mind reading the rest of these comments.. why would anyone consider this "chair" to be worth anything at all? A bidding war promoted by a million+ viewed YT video is hardly a reflection of a good's actual value, and this chair would obviously sell for much much less without the promo.
Designer brands typically have trial and errors to make sure their product is worth the investment, or so I'd like to believe anyway. So all of the concepts and aesthetics also help feed into the comfort and enjoyment of the piece. This piece... isn't there yet. It is like the rough draft version
Granted, there are a lot of products which get pushed out before completion... but those typically aren't first or second draft, but a bit later down the line when they HAVE to have something out due to funds and such running low
Ye, but he spent over 30 hours so :P
(no offence)
Impressively hideous results. I hate it but I am continually astonished by your abilities. Keep going!
21:55 I like how the auction ends in the past. You've just betrayed your time-traveler secret!
I love the persistence, I like the confidence, and I appreciate the time you put into this project. I also enjoyed the video editing, so I watched the whole thing-great job! However, as the owner of a very similar hanging chair (Amazonas Brasil Gigante, if you want to look it up), I don't see any benefit to the 3D-printed design. It doesn't give the chair a different form factor, nor does it add any advantages. It’s simply more expensive and harder to produce, offering at best the same-or even worse-comfort.
When no one is sitting in it, the pattern gets mashed and crumpled. For me, this feels like 3D printing for its own sake. There’s no real benefit from using different materials and tessellating triangles. While it’s fun to have something one of a kind, I would still choose my mass-produced hanging hammock chair over this one. I hope this feedback helps with future projects. I wish you all the best!
The whole point is to be a unique and somewhat functional art piece, which is the goal of most high end designer furniture and it accomplishes it in my opinion
@@DemsW Yes, but is it really unique and functional? Previous designs that copied chairs featured shapes which were difficult to achieve using any method other than 3D printing, and they were vastly different from regular chairs. This time around, the project looks exactly like a wildly popular hanging chair, and the 3D-printed pieces do not modify or add to its shape-they simply exist.
In my opinion, adding simple wooden beads made from exotic wood would look better and more premium than plastic, and none of the project’s form would be lost. It would still be mesh material with a beam. I thought 3D printing had more to offer than just producing a lot of parts and connecting them together-none of the unique benefits of 3D printing are being utilized here.
It is a matter of opinion in the end, some people liked it, personally I don't but I see why it would be considered unique as I've not seen another chair made up of many many smaller pieces strung with rope
morley will be cursed forever for breaking the wizard staff.
Plastic hammock sounds like an uncomfortable piece of furniture, but at least it's certainly unique. Google has an entire wing of a floor of their NYC office dedicated to Lego with furniture literally built with Lego, so it can't be more uncomfortable than that.
14:07 our boy ruined a perfectly good wizard staff. F in the chat folks. 😢
Especially considering the potential wizard who originally wanted it 😔😔
Yeah, he's about to have some dark spells put on him by the angry wizard, three blocks over.
He's gonna be cursed now
Man after all the effort I was hoping for something not as hideous. Love the dedication and effort put into the video
One thing to think about for any future designs is posture. A lot of these luxury chairs also come with the hidden chiropractor cost that'll hit ya in 10-20 years.
I’m so impressed with this project. When you pulled it in the air for the first time, it looked so pleasing yet alien…which is the best result of a unique design. Just awesome work!
"Its like modern art, but I dont think my child could do this" is the perfect way to summarize "modern art"
"Its like modern art, but I dont think my *childs* could do this"
@@davidrell-dukai8250 woops fixed
wildly disrespectful thing to say in general but also while your husband/bf is ostensibly an artist
@@lesternomo6578 it was a dis of modern art. Not his work.
@@lesternomo6578 she was saying that for most modern art she "thinks her child could do this," but for this chair she said "i dont think my child could do this." it was a compliment to the chair, and an insult to modern art, not the other way around.
Morley I really appreciate the technical aspects of your videos of course, but, I must also tell you how much I appreciate your optimism and great attitude. You always leave me in a better mood than when I start with you, good sir! Thank you
That's great to hear!
RIP the wizard staff. You were bendier then all of us 🫡🫡🫡
lol 😂
I know I’m late here but I feel like there could’ve been more adjustments to this chair, mostly functionality wise. Creator said that one of the things he felt like he accomplished was not rushing things, but at the end, he did not take the time to modify the chair to be easier to sit in. He just rushed to put it up for auction even though his wife didn’t seem too happy about the product. Sure, you can claim “impact” but one thing luxury products have is usability as well. They take money and time to find quality materials to make products that work. Yes, it might take more time to craft the item and fix little details, but that’s why they’re usually marked at a higher price point.
hey this project is so cool! I would like to mention that using ai in stuff like this does more than just using potentially stolen content from artists and designers, but it also shows the ai companies that they should keep shoving ai into everything, Id avoid putting much if any emphasis on this in the future, that being said, that is simply my perspective, take from it what you will, and keep up this awesome content!
AI is incapable of stealing, AI is just multiplication of matrixes, stop promoting medieval thinking
Its also bad for the environment
So does RUclips, and yet here you are
@@Zorae42 I think we're talking about scale here, though. According to some really quick research for numbers, Google's everything (which is RUclips plus GMail etc) use approximately 4.3 billion gallons annually, meanwhile the projections I'm finding online are saying that AI use is projected to use 1.1 trillion. That's a 255 times difference. That means that the same time RUclips is using a bathtub full of water, AI is using a home swimming pool size portion at the same time. Neither is great, but one is worse?
@@dytabytes "Projected to use" ? So not actual use. Not to mention that most of the consumption is in the training. Afterwards, anyone can put the model onto a local system and use no water at all. And, AI developers are incentivized to reduce water usage because they want lower costs to run their stuff. It's not like bitcoin where the increase to computing power is built into the model.
The truth is that all data centers use a lot of water, not just AI. And so anyone protesting AI for it's water consumption also should be protesting MMOs or any online game server honestly, streaming services, and anything that stores a large amount of data digitally.
But they aren't. Because they don't actually care, they're just making up things to support their "AI bad" reactionary beliefs.
*crosses another idea off of his list of video ideas*
Hahaha this happens to me so often watching other channels. Keep in mind there is always room for fresh takes on a similar concept.
@802Garage but then I just feel like a hack 😂
@@RyanMercer I hear ya, but keep in mind Morley got huge views literally copying existing chairs. It's about the process and journey more than the end result!
I agree
Really cool project, I'm glad youtube recommended the video. Please also be aware of the environmental impact of using generative AI; it puts a huge toll on the environment by itself, let alone making multiple iterations or doing it may times to get results. Would much rather see you collaborating with your community.
15:24 I just cheered when I saw this. I'm an Eagle Scout and when I was in my early boy scout career, I went to an event called Klondike. It had a bunch of skill based stations and one of them was making a flagpole and getting it to stand using a few knots. My main knot was the four taut-line's at the bottom and adjusting them. It is my favorite knot to this day, and I always use it while camping. The Bowline knot is the rescue knot. It is good for keeping things in place (like when you have to pull someone up or out of a dangerous situation and you don't want the rope digging into them) but not the best for attaching a rope to a mount like a stake or tree to provide support.
Bowline is what you tie around yourself when you fall off a cliff and someone needs to pull you up, tautline is what you tie when something needs to be adjustable, but you can also tie two half hitches, which is the same knot with one less loop around.
Should've used hexagons.
they are the bestagons
@@SLUGMUHthe reference 😭
Hexagons may Have been harder to mesh together in the same way that the triangles are meshing together
@BADLANDSubstitute i was refrencing the hexagons are the bestagons video. I wasn't saying that hexagons would've been better.
They are hexagon just budget triangle hexagons
you hit 7,500$!!!!!! i'm soo happy for you, you were not sure if it would go for a lot but it did. love the chair though looks great
Good luck on the auction, it looks to be at a very promising level. It might not be the type of chair I would ever buy, but I will absolutely watch the build process of something with interesting engineering and ingenuity. Good work on the project.
The idea was kinda great. But the execution was a bit meh. Next time, maybe start with designing the chair's shape. Then tessellate it and split it into small pieces. The pieces will have different shapes (maybe 3-5 different shapes in total). Base the final pieces (with tunnels) of off them. Make the wooden bar circular, or C-shaped, or even square, anything but straight.
A great craft to learn from, is knitting or crochet if you prefer.
Yarn will humble you, force you to slow down and make good decisions, you will get comfortable pulling out hours of work, over and over again.
I really love your work! I'm certainly not super into furniture design, but I do study graphic design & love making art, so I totally love seeing your progress, thought process and how much time&money it took. I've only just subscribed but I hope we can see even more of your creative designs in the future :)
But aside from that, I have one thing to add: It's best not to use generative AI for inspiration! I'm glad you didn't use it's "designs" and know it's just a ton of stolen stuff from the web meshed together, but AI is also *very* terrible for the environment. Those few minutes of brainstorming with it contribute a lot, unfortunately.
I get looking for inspiration can be frustrating too, but it's best to take ur time and find several different things you like that inspire you and doodle a few prototypes
RUclips is worse for the environment, but you don't seem to mind. Not even considering that AI only needs a lot of power upfront for training but afterwards not as much, and the fact that it will be constantly getting more efficient.
@@_B_E RUclips provides millions of jobs (maintaining it, AND creators who use it), is a huge teaching tool, and a news source. AI generation is derivative and only rips jobs and money out of the hands of creatives. It provides absolutely nothing for the world.
@@_B_E Dumb argument. RUclips has a much wider use for way more people compared to gen ai. There is nothing gen ai can produce a person couldn’t, and couldn’t produce better. RUclips serves a unique function and though it does have a plagiarism problem, that is not the entire point of its functionality.
@@Tayturs the crux of their argument was environmental - factually, youtube is exponentially worse. even then, gen AI has value whether you agree or not.
@@_B_E ok sure, if you have zero interest in considering vital context for data and weighing important cost vs gain, one number is indeed higher than the other. Great logistical skills there.
18:20 It wasnt the most comfortable chair.... yeah I was looking at you thinking that it looks like a torture device.
I’m digging the editing on this video!! Bringing back the past video ideas and adding a new touch. Yeah!! 👊🏼
For a future iteration, try making the barrel hinge 1/3 of the length of the wall, with a 3rd barrel strung loosely between two pieces to fill the gap. Then you can print a variety of sizes for the floating barrel to adjust the tolerance and space between triangles, allowing a wider range of motion. Would take a lot of experimenting and planning but I think you'd be able to get more natural looking curves in designated places, allowing you to build out a proper seat.
15:03 Pro Tip!
Don't power carve toward your crotch. DON'T!
I've been trying to start a 3D printing business for the last 6 months, but failing to generate ideas. This series has me thinking in whole new ways and considering things I hadn't before. Also, this chair is great. Love it.
My first thought when buying furniture is "How would I clean this if it got dirty?"
So I'm not in the market for this chair, but it does look cool.
powerwashing?
Honestly the people that can afford this chair would NOT be the people cleaning it
congrats on the growth! your video quality is next level awesome
I bet Morley has a backlog of like 101 different chair video ideas stormed up ready to be worked on and uploaded
i love how youve fully embraced being the guy who 3d prints expensive chairs without getting sued
It's cool and you are absolutely right. someone will love it and someone will hate it. To me, its a messy hammock with an awesome story!
My biggest beef with this is the focus on AI. You could've easily brainstormed with creators in your community or paid an artist. Using AI cheapens the experience and removes the soul out of the design. I'm not sure if you're aware of the negative environmental and economic impacts AI server farms have too.
Education goes a long way. At the level of creator you are, you can afford supporting actual artists instead of plagiarism software companies. The overuse of AI in this sends the wrong message.
Or..... no.
Agreed, especially since he mentionned in his video his desire of "making good choices he can be proud of", seemed so tone deaf knowing he used AI instead of collaborating with someone.
Why are you on RUclips if you care about the negative environmental impact of data centers?
Aside from pinching whoever sits on this without a layer of padding, do these plastic triangles cause extra stress on the rope through pinching and friction?
Is this basically a hammock with extra plastic bits making it possibly structurally less sound?
how much did it sell for?
That color and style reminds me of my great-grandma’s quilts/knitted blankets. I would honestly love this if it were made of fabric. That thing ain’t holdin’ my weight, though. 😅
It's really refreshing to see someone who's just happy and positive while making stuff.
bro ruined a perfectly good wizard staff
So, what was the final bid?
2:20 My tryphobia is screaming
Do you mean trypophobia?
I just opened the comments the exact time posted
@@NickLavic He probably does and even I hate looking at them. I had never heard of trypophobia or even knew it existed until like 10 years ago watching a PewDiePie video where he was browsing his reddit page and came across a post on trypophobia and the commenter was asking if anyone suffers from it and literally just said it was a fear of a bunch of circles which I thought was nothing but then after seeing PewDiePie google the actual fear and seeing him feel super uneasy then I understood what it was and those examples I remember which included weird plants with lots of weird shaped holes in them literally mentally hurt my eyes. I hate looking at that crap and I also hate bugs (some types) and dogs but have no issues with anything else
@@NickLavicyeah you look like the type who would say that. It was obviously a typo lmao
Me too😢
I don’t really love it, but it’s so impressive that you created it!
It reminds me of when I started my architecture degree and had to design a lamp for one of the subjects. Looking back, I don’t like the lamp I made and can think of a hundred ways I could have improved it. But at the time I did my best with the knowledge I had and I’m still proud of it!
Designing furniture would’ve been a cool experience too, sometimes I think about doing it just for fun and to exercise creativity but it’s hard to find the time, maybe that’s why your videos resonate with me so much. Great job!
Everything ive liked up to the last point. I think some of the rope can be trimmed down and maybe its just me but i think you could easily solve the "your too scrunched up" problem by adding some sort of other support structure. Kind of like angled down arms from the main top body.
Facebook marketplace guy watching his wizard staff get broken in half
Bro the music that starts at 11:40 fits it soooooooo well
For me it looks like a rope mess.
That's just me. Just my opinion.
it’s a month later how do i see what it sold for? it is not listed on the auction site
You power carving, no guard, towards your own leg gave me some real scrunchface. Real cool project! I saw some of Calder’s work in the Seattle Art Museum when I was visiting, very inspiring!
i love your creativity man, never give up! ❤
I almost didn't click because I couldn't tell it wasn't a re-upload, I clicked just to double check. need an arrow or highlight or something for the chair lol, the brightly colored ones draw focus
thanks for the feedback!
Same here, thought it was a video I’ve already seen before I saw it was uploaded 9hrs ago and thought why not I’ll check it out
i don’t care what anyone says, you are an artist, and THIS, is modern art.
Knot tip: Bowlines aren't great for anchors that are going to be cyclically loaded. They are very easy to undo after holding a fixed load, but can come undone when loaded dynamically multiple times.
the bowline knot is an excellent knot for holding a fixed loop that will not tighten under any circumstances, which in cases other than yours will be extremely desirable or even critical to function, you just had the wrong tool for the job.
How much did the chair sell for?
I know how you should name it: “Unfinished”
12:44 Me: "That wizard staff is KNOT gonna hold someone's weight"
WHY _AREN'T_ YOU LIVE STREAMING THESE PRINTS?? No music, no interaction at all. Just the ambient noise & satisfaction of the printing process over & over & over again on repeat. Did you forget that humans have a love of weird unique stuff just like this? Try it, you could be pleasantly surprised. ❤❤
hammock is just more confortable with a simple hook to fix it. adding wood to making it more flat just reduce it's capability to adapt to someone morphology.
How much did it go for?!?!
Looking for it too. You can't see it on the website
Some ppl wrote it was a 8,700$ bid
Unfortunately, the final price will not be the value of the chair at all, but the result of this video as an advertisement. So it will not be possible to compare it to previous projects or furniture from stores
I'm not sure bidding is an honest representation of value in this case. If you were to put it out on a bidding website, let it conclude and then post the video, then it would've actually been fair. Since the video released beforehand, people are inclined to give this chair more value than they otherwise would, be it subscribers or someone completely unfamiliar with your channel. It's especially unfair to let people bid on it on your own website only. People obviously give it additional value due to the chair being tied to your videos. Don't really mean to knock down the idea, but it's not the best way to find out what something you made would cost.
I agree, but I feel like the people who watch the video also now see how much effort was put into it, and can appreciate the work. Of course, some of them just want something from thier favorite RUclipsr and I think that’s fine as well. It isn’t really the value of the chair, but more of the value of the one who made it being represented if he posts the video.
You don't seem to understand luxury products. This is the chair from the video. The notoriety, the artist's name, and the amount it costs make it desirable, which raises the price. Do you think people buy Gucci and Loius Vuitton items because of quality or beauty? He addressed it in the video with the statements about impact. It's a 'free' chair. You can download the files and make one. The time that a Canadian laborer spent is not what makes this chair valuable. It's Morley Kert's chair from the video. The video is a part of the value.
@da3dsoul I understand that the video adds value, that was my point. The reason I was skeptical was that he compared himself to other creators on the market, who auction their works off on websites among other creators, yet he wants to see what this chair is "worth". If he doesn't put himself in the same conditions as everyone else, it's not a fair way to judge the chair's price.
This deserves way more views and likes for all your hard work and time. Just to keep us entertained you do this you deserve more.
12:00 The only thing I can think is "it is way easier to pull a piece of string than to push it". -- having a long slender hooked rod (electrician cable puller fish tape) would be rigid enough to push through all the holes in one go, hook the string, then pull it all back at the same time. Either way, cool build :D
One thing I’d say is that in an auction performed by a “known” creator to their fans, the market value of the chair will more reflect the value placed on the creator. It’s not a sure fire thing but it is something to consider if you care
Regardless, neat chair
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I'm really glad the wizard staff broke. I'm sorry my friend but it DID NOT look whimsical. It looked shabby.
rude, every staff deserves a wizard
well dang, I may just print a part of your chair so I can say "I have a piece of 'modern art'"
You really thought that stick was gonna hold😂. Happens to the best of us.
This pattern would be amazing for a hammock(?) just kinda do the same thing on the other side, toss a blanket over it, put it outside... I can see it, must be really chill!
PLEASE deactivate the AI-translations, this sounds awful! I was about to close this video when I realized there was "original audio" available. I mean, have you actually tried to listen to these translations? Sounds like synth-speech from the 1990
Um big dog I think you just had that turned on because it sounds perfectly fine
Dude I think you just had it turned on, it sounds completely find to me
Maybe check just in case
@@mecajohn707no, RUclips does this automatically if you are not a native speaker. But the channel owner must activate this for their channel.
@@garthakospeak English better
@ ah, well can't you turn it off? I feel like you should be able just turn it off at the beginning so you don't have to deal with it. (Sorry if I come off rude I don't mean to btw)
Does anybody know how much is sold for
12:33 wizard staff 😭🙏
I'm fascinated by the process of creating this chair, but won't lie, the end result left a lot to be desired. But I actually think with some more thought and development ot could be really amazing. But I also totally understand if it was one of those things you just wanted to be done with. 😅
bro made start price 1500$ now its 8700$
Its been 2 weeks. What did it sell for?
current bid as of December 28 2024 at 6:30 in the morning is $8,700
I just looked at the current bid amount and I just have to say I am so happy for you!!!! That is amazing and I hope it helps you to gain more confidence in your builds!! I enjoy watching your videos so much and the dance parties with your wife when you finish a build is one of my favorite parts!!! Thank you for creating beautiful thing and pushing the limit of what you can do with 3D printing, it is very inspirational
You know how you can make a paper plate stronger by bending it? That's because the plate has a (mathematical) Curvature of 0. That means it can only bend in 1 dimension. Objects usually have a Curvature that cannot change without damaging them, like a crease or tear.
Since the triangles were strung together flat, the Curvature of the chair will always be about 0 with a little leeway from the folding at each hinge which acts like a crease.
By tiling them on a shape with the curvature you want, you could make the chair form fit a little better. However, this would change a lot about the whole design.
Think of this like sewing a garment so it has a particular shape rather than adjusting the shape of flat cloth.
(Notes: Sphere-like things have positive Curvature, flat or cylindrical thing have 0 Curvature, and saddle-like things have negative Curvature.)
If you get $1500 for this chair, that's a decent hourly wage. It would be acceptable starting salary in my expensive country, but a tad on the low side. If you get $1800, I'd call the project entirely worth the effort. But would you make another? Could you get the total hours spent down? Could anything else be automated?
Having the final design of the 3d prints and the weave pattern already done, there's no time and money spent on RnD for any subsequent builds, so the turnover rate will definitely be much quicker.
Current bit already $2500...
Eh given the cost of the printers. The filament. The work required to assemble the chair and cleaning it all up makes me think it's not worth the effort even at 2.5k you are barely making average wage and this project isn't exactly a steady income opportunity so you need to make a lot more than average to justify it.
Think about how much bids he would have gotten without a 500k RUclips channel....
@@KT-pv3kl He already had the printer and other items sold though. It's starting to pay for itself at this point.
More like a WEAVING project.
Visually, 3d printed pieces might as well be store bought beads
They also… were already at a quantity of ‘tiles’ where injection moulding would have been viable.
"I'm not going to just copy a midjourney result that was probably just stolen from 100 digital artists" - But you are going to display the results in a video for additional content.
I don't get the whole 'I get it, AI is bad, don't be mad at me' attitude, while still using it and publicly promoting it is just normalizing the theft from those digital artists but I guess its easier than admitting that you know that AI is bad because its created from stolen assets and stolen data. But hey, it makes your life easier so their rights don't matter to you. Pretty gross to hear from another creator
I keep thinking about how cool it would have been to use this opportunity to do a collab with another creator. Someone who maybe knew more about engineering or design so the final product could have ended up better. And something that would have felt genuine and more inspiring.
Diffusion models are here to stay. You can't get rid of them, and anyone who refuses to use a tool that's available will be left behind. Ideally, we will get more ethically created models, maybe even with better indication of source material, but the previous point doesn't become invalid just because we don't have an ethical option yet. He researched and brainstormed in a traditional way, as well. John Malecki and Morley both used it the most ethically way possible, in my opinion. You are entitled to your wrong opinion. You are just among the people that claimed photography, photoshop, cinematography, etc aren't art when you completely reject a new tool. Everything we use is made with stolen labor and unethically sourced materials. You can be mad, but none of us can change it without starting an economically unviable AI startup.
@@da3dsoul Sounds like an awful lot of cope 🤷
@@Tayturs 100% a missed opportunity that I hope they don't miss in the future
@@da3dsoul Comparing gen ai to photography or digital art is a dumb, half baked talking point. It entirely misunderstands the core problem. Think. None of those other tech advancements rely SOLEY on COPYRIGHTED WORK to even function. It’s not the same. The value is derived EXCLUSIVELY from the labors being used without consent, not the tech by itself. Gen AI is entirely useless by itself.
There will also never be an “ethical” version of this tech because the theft is inherent to how it works. It needs such a massive volume of data to generate anything coherent that if someone tried to ethically source and compensate for every item, it would never be financially sound. Hell, it’s arguably not even financially sound even when stealing its data. The people making this tech have zero intention of compensating the people who give it its value. They couldn’t afford it.
Hey Morely! I'd love to see more videos where you use your engineering skills to tackle the outdoors, as you did in your week-long, 3D-printer-assisted camping trip. Perhaps not always as long as a week, and now that you have access to a more fully equipped workshop you could use the intro to prepare ideas for a bit, rather than only coming up with ones on the spot; combining 3d-printing, woodworking and any of the other crafts that pop into mind. Take inspiration from your previous trip, and set goals like creating an item purposed for comfort, for food, for shelter, for convenience, for content creation etc. I love your stuff, your energy and outlook inspire me daily at the moment.
I feel like the original boho style macrame hammock chairs were better and more conceptually coherent pieces. This took that idea and weighed it down with plastic. I've seen many handmade versions of those chairs with wooden and glass beads, crystals and seashells sell for only $200.
Three times?
thrice
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