The Somaskanda sculptures - The story of the missing Ganesha | Mamallapuram

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  • Опубликовано: 14 сен 2022
  • The Somaskanda was a popular icon during the Pallava period. You can see it sculpted on the walls of the Atiranachanda Cave temple, the Shore temple and many other 7th-8th century monuments at Mamallapuram, Tamil Nadu. You can also see many spectacular Chola-period bronzes of the Somaskanda at the Egmore Museum in Chennai. The icon represents Shiva, the god of destruction, his wife Parvati, and their son, the ancient warrior god, Muruga. The picture, though, seems a little incomplete, doesn’t it? There’s someone missing from this family portrait. Why did the sculptors leave Ganesha out?
    This short video explores some possible answers as it takes you on a journey through the changing religious landscape in Pallava territories during the first 1000 years of the common era.
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  • @mangairagav9101
    @mangairagav9101 Год назад +20

    In Alagramam village , villupuram district, Tamilnadu there is an early vinayaga sculpture with 4rth CE inscription on it, athis idol was identified as earliest Vinayaga in Tamilnadu by Scholar Iravatham Mahadevan.

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  • @AbcDef-gw4dg
    @AbcDef-gw4dg Год назад +7

    Shiva is not only limited as god of destruction
    But he is the suprme lord who is Sat-Chit-Ananda Sarveshwar Bhagwan Sadashiva Mahadeva.
    Shiva means Atma/Parmatma

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  • @selfseeker143
    @selfseeker143 Год назад +6

    If a person is absent in a family photo, that doesn't mean they don't have any relationship with him. In some Vinayaka temples Shiva is absent, that doesn't mean, those who constructed that temple don't know Shiva. Temples or deities in those temples were constructed depending on context and events.

    • @ripsanskrit3609
      @ripsanskrit3609 2 месяца назад

      As they said vinayaga came later them Murugan or shivan

  • @vinodmenon8976
    @vinodmenon8976 Год назад +4

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  • @GobiSubramaniam
    @GobiSubramaniam Год назад +7

    Sangam literature often depicts Murugan as Tamil God (and takes His Vel (Spear) as the symbol of their kingdoms). Ganesha on the other hand was more popular in the North, being associated with writing Mahabratha Epic.

    • @vasanthasrikantha6512
      @vasanthasrikantha6512 Год назад +2

      Ganesha was hijacked from Aseevakam Tamil naadu

    • @debasissarangi4404
      @debasissarangi4404 Год назад +1

      ​@@vasanthasrikantha6512 your brain was hijacked it seems😂

    • @KrisManian
      @KrisManian Год назад +1

      Ganesha is not a vaccine to inject😀
      Nowadays we see Ayappa and Sai getting popular due to adoption.

    • @prathappoojari5415
      @prathappoojari5415 Год назад +1

      Ganesha is the oldest god named in Tulu oral literature ( the Pad'daanas)

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад +1

      Ganesha did not wrote MB because...
      He doesn't exist😂

  • @rajeshkumar-gw1qm
    @rajeshkumar-gw1qm Год назад +5

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  • @sudeepmnv646
    @sudeepmnv646 7 дней назад

    Very interesting video especially the bhakti movement

  • @fionacassidy9746
    @fionacassidy9746 10 месяцев назад +1

    Being a Tamil girl from London I enjoyed the videos very much

  • @pandiya_elavarasan
    @pandiya_elavarasan Год назад +2

    Simple and clear cut explanations
    Easy understanding video presentation
    Great wrk guys

  • @ankitanandy6076
    @ankitanandy6076 Год назад

    Ganesha is the cutest in the pantheon, and after visiting the Puducherry Vinayaga temple, I have truly fallen in love with legends which speak of Ganesha.

  • @SmellsGoodfragrancereviews
    @SmellsGoodfragrancereviews 6 дней назад

    What a fabulous video, I am really enjoying your amazing content. Would it be possible for you to do a similar video on the great Chola Temples, using your amazing structure and presentation please ? Thank you.

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    In this video, when there is a mention about tamil naalwar, Sundarar is mentioned as Chandikeshwarar. Is there a story behind that?

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    @Aikidokka Год назад +1

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    @user-vb8we7nl6d Месяц назад

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  • @venkateshkandasamy3914
    @venkateshkandasamy3914 Год назад +2

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    @irahandcreations8251 Год назад +2

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    @sankaranarayanangovindasam9674 Год назад +2

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    @edwardliquorish8540 Год назад +1

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  • @sureshfire
    @sureshfire Год назад

    the pallavas made the soma Skanda statue because those days more and more people followed Jainism and Buddhism which stresses on renunciation of worldly pleasures including family .Hence Pallavas made the soma Skanda statues to motivate people to enter household and familyhood

  • @rameshkeswani962
    @rameshkeswani962 Год назад

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  • @saptarshiadhikary3736
    @saptarshiadhikary3736 Год назад +1

    What you consider Lord Murugan in sountern states, we consider him as Lord Kartik in Bengal.😊😊😊

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    @applebycottage6241 3 месяца назад

    Thank u I love all ur videos

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  • @selfseeker143
    @selfseeker143 Год назад +1

    2:23 Shiva name was absent but In Tamilnadu the earliest references to the worship of Shiva date back to the Sangam period(600 B.C to 300 C.E). Sangam literature, which comprises the ‘Ettuthogai’ (or the Eight Anthologies)(300B.C) and ‘Pathupaatu’ (or the Ten Idylls), are replete with references to Shiva.
    The anthologies which are a part of ‘Ettuthogai’(300B.C) contain vivid descriptions of the various attributes of Shiva.A song in ‘Agananuru’ speaks of Him as the God with the ‘third eye’ on his forehead’. Similarly, the ‘Kalithogai’ hails Him as the Lord who bears the ganges on his head. The invocatory verses in ‘Aingurunuru’, ‘Kalithogai’, ‘Agananuru’ and ‘Purananuru’ celebrate the greatness of Shiva. These texts also have numerous references to puranas associated with the cult of Shiva. Some of the anthologies in ‘Ettuthogai’ allude to the festivals and rituals associated with Shiva. The ‘Paripadal’ speaks of the festival of Thiruvathirai, while a verse in ‘Agananuru’ mentions the ‘Velan Veriyaattu’, a ritual dance associated with saivism.

    • @KrisManian
      @KrisManian Год назад

      Very nice🤙🙏 Shiva is the Adi guru and was in Harappa site also. Hope they correct the video and stop misinformation🙏

    • @Agnostic7773
      @Agnostic7773 5 месяцев назад

      @StarPlanet56789 only irulas pure Indians

    • @Agnostic7773
      @Agnostic7773 5 месяцев назад

      @StarPlanet56789 dummels came from Somalia

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      @Agnostic7773 5 месяцев назад

      @StarPlanet56789 dumeels negros Belongs to kumari continent

  • @sriramr2437
    @sriramr2437 Год назад +1

    Very interesting observations :)

  • @paradesiaralan
    @paradesiaralan Год назад +1

    Hinduism name is just 200 year's old, given by British, these sculptures are TAMIL CULTURE SAIVAM

  • @AnirimaGhosh
    @AnirimaGhosh Год назад

    Thank you. Very factual narration of history. What happened to the all Jain Buddhist temples described around that time? Why they don’t exist anymore?

  • @186rupkathabhattacharyya8
    @186rupkathabhattacharyya8 Год назад +1

    How do we book for the walking trails ? Could not book through the site and unfortunately could not get in touch through the contact details provided too :(

  • @sakthimadhankumar3254
    @sakthimadhankumar3254 Месяц назад

    I believe there are references to shiva in sangam literature like in puranaanuru and akanaanuru but there isn’t any explicit mention. The god is only mentioned implicitly like the one with long hair or the one under a banyan tree. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  • @PranavGogwekar
    @PranavGogwekar 9 месяцев назад +1

    I want to know how do we relate these gods mentioned in Sangam literature to the Vedic & Puranic gods? Are there any common characteristics or references?

    • @dnd-yd2uu
      @dnd-yd2uu 8 месяцев назад

      Dude I think it's mixed up, Vedas has Devas such as Indra, Varuna, Vayu, Agni, etc but also the Ultimate and Supreme, Lord Vishnu, Lord Shiva, Durga Mata, but we don't find Indra, Varuna,etc or even Lord Brahma being worshipped here in other parts of India, whereas South India do have Lord Varuna, Lord Murugan.
      There's nothing we can say, cause Hinduism as even today, got evolved as individual and community beliefs.

  • @Amitdas-gk2it
    @Amitdas-gk2it Год назад

    Interesting

  • @izharfatima5295
    @izharfatima5295 Год назад +1

    The pantheon is borrowed and expanded as different human groups came.

  • @withvinodh
    @withvinodh 10 месяцев назад

    Vinayaga called in the name of pillaiyar in tamilnadu. There's pillaiyar temple in thirunangur which was installed by Rama and worshipped by him.

  • @Chopraviraj
    @Chopraviraj Год назад +1

    How about introducing yourself? very good presentation. Thanks

    • @StorytrailsChannel
      @StorytrailsChannel  Год назад +1

      Thank you :) And point taken. The presenters in this video are Sara Mohan and Vijay Prabhat Kamalakara.

  • @sirjohnpiraan1662
    @sirjohnpiraan1662 5 месяцев назад

    What is the female anchor’s name?

  • @BabuBakthavachalam
    @BabuBakthavachalam Год назад

    Thanks

  • @luckan20
    @luckan20 Год назад +1

    Shiva is not the God of destruction. Please understand 12 Thirumuraigal before calling Shiva is the God of destruction. The concept of Shiva is auspicious and performs 5 functions Formation, Transformation, dissolution, concealing, and revealing.

  • @anthonypk7281
    @anthonypk7281 Год назад +2

    Downgrading Sivan is not good. In the future if they speak up rama, I want to take the spear to them.

  • @cnsraghavan1592
    @cnsraghavan1592 Год назад

    What about the Pillayarpatti rock-cut Ganesha? What about the Ganesha in Alagramam temple in Villupuram district?

  • @sudhaseshadri7899
    @sudhaseshadri7899 Год назад +1

    Read sivaramamurti shiva in art dance and literature...shiva is the lord of creation. Sustenance and destruction in shiva Siddhan ta

  • @user-ge8os2cy4j
    @user-ge8os2cy4j Год назад

    Ganesh statue brough from Vatabi, where is it now.

  • @csbalachandran
    @csbalachandran Год назад +1

    Important detail: sa + umā + skanda = somāskanda, not somaskanda.

  • @rameshfromchennai
    @rameshfromchennai Год назад

    thanks

  • @thesupremesupreme
    @thesupremesupreme Год назад

    When I visited mahabalipuram I looked at that sculptures and wondered why Ganesha is missing and there were two couples (foreign origin)from Karnataka were asking the same question .. Now I got the answer why Ganesha is missing. 😅

  • @nadaraja8334
    @nadaraja8334 Год назад

    In Thamil Ganesh or Ghana Eeswar or the Commander of Ghanam's of the Theva forces is know as "Kuncharam Udayar". Pillaiyar his other name is given to "Pillaiyar Patti" where he was born. Somaskanda has an another name called "Alla vaya Udayar" who is the husband of Mathurai Meen Atchi the Udayal. Murugan's vaganam the Rooster is know as "Murugi" in the North, his favorite tree is know as Murungai Kai where as his Vaganam is know as "Sev Vel". Some people have lost the language and some have kept the language is the outcome.

  • @ashker4057
    @ashker4057 Год назад

    No. Vinayakar was a symbol of Aaseevagam and it wasn't incorporated into Hinduism until the Bhakthi period. Pillayarpatti is a temple from the Sangam age and Vinayaka was always there in the Tamil Regions.

  • @greatwisdom2867
    @greatwisdom2867 Год назад

    Shiva should have references even before that right? What about Nayanmargal and Thirumandiram?

  • @urmilamangaonkar8015
    @urmilamangaonkar8015 Год назад

    Shiva gave ganesha north india and kartikeya south india. Ganesha visit kartikeya as guest for 10 days maharashtra people celebrate ganapati and two gaury some part of karnataka andhra also . South people did not know about ganesha married or single and north people did not know kartikeya is married . In north only single ganesha murty is worshiped at temple they dont celebrate ganesh chaturthi like maharashtra thats reason . South people know more kartikeya than ganesha . In mumbai many north indians now celebrate ganesh chaturthi.

  • @hetarthkamdar8707
    @hetarthkamdar8707 Год назад +2

    I have one request/suggestion
    'Hindu' is a word not native to this land
    'Hindu-Ism' was a misinterpretation of the native culture, later conceptualized as a religion and then propagated until it happened to look like a religion. Same with Jainism Buddhism
    Why should we not call this land for what it is? A land of liberation
    Different ways of life undertaken for one purpose. also this land celebrates life through its stories

  • @sathiahalya3003
    @sathiahalya3003 Месяц назад

    Siva chopped off Ganesha's head and replaced it with an elephant's head. Parvati had made him from the sandlewood paste.

  • @ShriPLaK
    @ShriPLaK Год назад

    🧡

  • @rameshrami2540
    @rameshrami2540 Год назад

    Please tell in the next video that the origin of the idol of Nataraja in Tamil Nadu is also Badami from Karnataka.

  • @thirdmainroad
    @thirdmainroad Год назад

    Gudimallam has a fourth century BC Shiva temple. Gudimallam is at northern tip of the Tamil country. Kalahasti, also nearby was an important early Shaiva/Kapalika centre.
    The Rudraprashna is in the Yajur Veda. It is however true that Rudra with the Blue Throat is important and the expression Shiva (The Auspicious One) is used sparingly.
    According to Yuvraj Kishan in his comprehensive book on Ganesha, the Ganapati-Atharva-Sheersha-Upanishad is a post-Vedic text and is not a proper Upanishad, but merely named as such.
    The first statues of Kartikeya/Subrahmanya/Muruga are from the Kashmir and Khyber areas and show a handsome young god with a peacock.
    The Great Goddess and innumerable local and regional Goddesses are pretty much acknowledged as the same or as sisters or as differing aspects and so on.
    We evolve, we change and so do our divinities.

    • @thirdmainroad
      @thirdmainroad 11 месяцев назад

      @juniper7905 I am a tamil myself, and I don’t think it matters one bit who settled where first. What matters is what we are now.

    • @Agnostic7773
      @Agnostic7773 5 месяцев назад

      @StarPlanet56789 check your dna test blacky

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад

      All scriptures about Ganesha are nor just "post-Vedic" but simply medieval. Why? Because he is a medieval Deity.
      Madhukar Keshav Dhavalikar, M.A., Ph.D. (University of Poona) explained in 2016 trough his his book about Ganesha (Gaṇeśa: The God of Asia), the rise of the elephant- headed divinity from a sacred animal and an animal totem to the exalted position of a cult deity in Hinduism in the classical medieval era. At first he was known outside of Hinduism as vighma-karta (obstacle-creator) but became a vighna-harta (obstacle-remover) in Hinduism.
      How did his happen?
      Siddhānta astrology, which became dominant under Babylonian and Greek influence around the third century A.D. added a new dimension to the cosmic evil with which men had to contend: the planetary forces that were believed to shape an individual’s destiny. As protection against inauspicious movements of the Navagrahas, the nine heavenly bodies, the most effective counter-measures were held to be the performance of special, elaborate rituals, the graha pūjā or graha hōma - which weren’t always accessible. Thus the worship of other protective gods and goddesses was formalized to meet the needs of all socal classes. The cult of Vināyaka or Gaṇeśa became the most successful of these substitutes called on to meet the threats of both terrestrial and planetary forces of evil for many by which Vināyaka or Gaṇeśa became known as vighna-harta (obstacle-remover) and became more populair among the ‘lower’ social classes.
      Note that he was at first absorbed in Shaivism through interpolated Puranas as an independent cult with Ganesha as the primary deity was well established by about the 10th century and after that time the most populair scriptures around Ganesha; Ganesha Purana and the Mudgala Purana which are verly late and interpolated puranas. Some scholars say the core of it came into existence around the 12th and 13th centuries, being subject to interpolations during the succeeding ages. R. Stevenson, in contrast, suggests the text was likely written in or after the 17th-century after having studies this purana. Every other scripture which mentiones Ganesha is from the classical mediaval Era (post-Gupta) hence, you will not find him in the spiritual Epics (viz. Rāmāyaṇa nor the Mahābhārata) which are Pre-Gupta.

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад +1

      Madhukar Keshav Dhavalikar, M.A., Ph.D. (University of Poona) explained in 2016 trough his his book about Ganesha (Gaṇeśa: The God of Asia), the rise of the elephant- headed divinity from a sacred animal and an animal totem to the exalted position of a cult deity in Hinduism in the classical medieval era. At first he was known outside of Hinduism as vighma-karta (obstacle-creator) but became a vighna-harta (obstacle-remover) in Hinduism.
      How did his happen?
      Siddhānta astrology, which became dominant under Babylonian and Greek influence around the third century A.D. added a new dimension to the cosmic evil with which men had to contend: the planetary forces that were believed to shape an individual’s destiny. As protection against inauspicious movements of the Navagrahas, the nine heavenly bodies, the most effective counter-measures were held to be the performance of special, elaborate rituals, the graha pūjā or graha hōma - which weren’t always accessible. Thus the worship of other protective gods and goddesses was formalized to meet the needs of all socal classes. The cult of Vināyaka or Gaṇeśa became the most successful of these substitutes called on to meet the threats of both terrestrial and planetary forces of evil for many by which Vināyaka or Gaṇeśa became known as vighna-harta (obstacle-remover) and became more populair among the ‘lower’ social classes.
      Note that he was at first absorbed in Shaivism through interpolated Puranas as an independent cult with Ganesha as the primary deity was well established by about the 10th century and after that time the most populair scriptures around Ganesha; Ganesha Purana and the Mudgala Purana which are verly late and interpolated puranas. Some scholars say the core of it came into existence around the 12th and 13th centuries, being subject to interpolations during the succeeding ages. R. Stevenson, in contrast, suggests the text was likely written in or after the 17th-century after having studies this purana. Every other scripture which mentiones Ganesha is from the classical mediaval Era (post-Gupta) hence, you will not find him in the spiritual Epics (viz. Rāmāyaṇa nor the Mahābhārata) which are Pre-Gupta.

    • @Agnostic7773
      @Agnostic7773 5 месяцев назад

      @@krisc3371 chalukyas who introduced in Deccan region then pallavas adopted 'Ganesa' in south Deccan

  • @thirumalmurugan8993
    @thirumalmurugan8993 Год назад +1

    Don't say it was HINDUISM, it's the latest name given .. The religion which coexist with Buddhism and Jainism was Saivism.. and it still exists but in the name of HINDUISM.. Hinduism is the recent name.. Saivism and Vainavism was the older Tamil religions..

  • @ashker4057
    @ashker4057 Год назад

    It is not just a stone lingham. It is Basalt.

  • @velmuruka3186
    @velmuruka3186 Год назад

    Mayon is not Vishnu, later adoption only, Which is why Shiva was missing in Sangam literature.

  • @rajkiran1982
    @rajkiran1982 Год назад +1

    WTF you have to define in Colonial terms, 'Shiva, the god of destruction' ?????

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад

      Exactly😂

  • @jainvikas5937
    @jainvikas5937 Год назад

    Make a detailed video on jainism please
    What is the oldest evidence available till today coz still wherever a digging happens jain statues scriptures we are getting
    Jainism was also found in harrppan mohan jodaro civilisation
    Make a detailed video please coz once in south India jainism was on peak
    Nd reason for declining also
    Jainism has lot nd lot of impact on today’s indian society nd their thought process
    Once it was biggest religion nd then suddenly it declined like 50% to 0.1% what is the reason

  • @KrisManian
    @KrisManian Год назад

    Thanks for doing interesting videos based on archeology. In this video video you state that Shiva was not mentioned in Sangam literature. This contradicts with your other video on Brahmi script where you say Harappa scripts were found in archialogical finds in Vaigai areas. Harapppans worshipped Shiva/Shakti Are you saying they got only the script and not Shiva?
    Shiva is the oldest in our Hindu pantheon. So what you say in this video makes little sense.

  • @tamilvanan3788
    @tamilvanan3788 2 месяца назад

    Pillayarpati and alagramam ganesh were older than vatapi ganapati..pls do your research clearly

  • @somaskanda2010
    @somaskanda2010 27 дней назад

    TIL!!

  • @pateldevarajegodwa8060
    @pateldevarajegodwa8060 6 месяцев назад +1

    ancient old name is pale kannadam Karnataka kingdom❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
    Modern name is Tamil nadu😂😂😂 😢😢😢 😅😅😅

  • @vinsin328
    @vinsin328 2 месяца назад

    Tulsidas was under the Mughals and was more worried about promoting Brahmavad (cows) and saving Ram idols from the Mughals, not Hinduism. Jains collectively decided in the 13th century to become vegetarian and slowly commit suicide to finish Janinism on the orders of Ashadhara. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu also spread Brahmavad (cows) and Krishnanism, not Hinduism. He adopted ideas from Jainism and supported a Brahmanical diet called Satvic.

  • @MM-dh3wr
    @MM-dh3wr Год назад +1

    Wh y there is no GOD in vedas

    • @Agnostic7773
      @Agnostic7773 5 месяцев назад

      lol budda not like idols@@iamgreat151

  • @AbcDef-gw4dg
    @AbcDef-gw4dg Год назад

    Kumar
    Skanda
    Kartikeya

  • @jainvikas5937
    @jainvikas5937 Год назад

    Make a detailed video on jainism please
    What is the oldest evidence available till today coz still wherever a digging happens jain statues scriptures we are getting
    Jainism was also found in harrppan mohan jodaro civilisation
    Make a detailed video please coz once in south India jainism was on peak
    Nd reason for declining also
    Nd please make a video without any false information
    Coz I believe jainism is more old nd then it got separated in hinduism

  • @User-ief2Xz4uEpf5q4hj
    @User-ief2Xz4uEpf5q4hj Год назад +2

    Lord Ganesha comes from Vajrayana Buddhism branches.

  • @SARAVANA.TN45
    @SARAVANA.TN45 Год назад

    This panal Mamallaphuram

  • @AthieGovender
    @AthieGovender 2 месяца назад

    I'm not sure of your source of Shiva's history. My reading suggests that there is evidence that Shiva was worshipped at Indus Valley Civilization.

  • @mathanproductions1862
    @mathanproductions1862 Год назад

    Im sorry bro .three are no related .....( Mean lord shiva ,Muruga,Ganesha)

  • @sjain8111
    @sjain8111 Год назад

    🙏🙏🪔

  • @greatmanIND
    @greatmanIND Год назад

    God Shiva not known??. Get your facts correct before blabbering. 1st sangam was presided by God Shiva himself as Sundara pandiya king at kumari kandam. Poet was Agasthiyar who gave first grammer to Tamil. Sangam literature describes God Shiva as "Pirava yaakkai periyon" means "Never birthed Mahadev". How did you say God Shiva was not mentioned in sangam literature.
    In Tamil land, since ages, the word God/Eshwara will always refer to Shiva only.

  • @SMCGPRA
    @SMCGPRA Год назад

    Bhakthi movement spread from Tamil Nadu to other parts of the India is exaggerated stmt

    • @SarathPullayil
      @SarathPullayil 6 месяцев назад

      Bhakthi movement started from tamilagam to Northern parts

  • @izharfatima5295
    @izharfatima5295 Год назад

    It is misleading, the fossils of dinosaurs' giant eggs were presumed by humans as ling of something which was beyond their knowledge and perceptions, and hence ended up as usual worshipping it.

  • @SasiKumar-zc2ly
    @SasiKumar-zc2ly Год назад

    Gudimallam temple lingam is said to be the oldest lingam in India. Very close to Tirupati. But you claim Shiva worship in South India happened after 5th Century CE. Get your facts right before publishing

  • @bahubali5618
    @bahubali5618 Год назад

    @3.43 outplayed caste 🤣🤣🤣 from that time onward casteism become rampant

  • @gratefulkm
    @gratefulkm Год назад

    That Ganesh/Kumar story and understanding is incorrect
    The meaning of the story ridicules almost everything you said
    But then I guess the Slavers did a good job or eradicating the understanding of the story

  • @ashker4057
    @ashker4057 Год назад

    These stories and not properly researched. Just that the presentation being good, doesn't mean that the script was too. Weak writing.

  • @wilhelmmeyer89
    @wilhelmmeyer89 Год назад

    foncusing

  • @rajasuresh29us
    @rajasuresh29us Год назад

    We are not Hindu.. we are Not Muslim and Christen.. that means not we are hindu.. then who we are?
    that is yet to explain..

  • @MM-dh3wr
    @MM-dh3wr Год назад +4

    Ganesha came as a competition to Buddhists elephant. Any thing original from non-Vedic the Vedic people bring thousands of new Puranas to diminish the value of the original. Why no good original religious scriptures in Sanskrit in the last 2000 years.

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад

      I think you right.

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад

      Ganesha is fake hindu deva😂

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 5 месяцев назад

      Madhukar Keshav Dhavalikar, M.A., Ph.D. (University of Poona) explained in 2016 trough his his book about Ganesha (Gaṇeśa: The God of Asia), the rise of the elephant- headed divinity from a sacred animal and an animal totem to the exalted position of a cult deity in Hinduism in the classical medieval era. At first he was known outside of Hinduism as vighna-karta (obstacle-creator) but became a vighna-harta (obstacle-remover) in Hinduism.
      How did his happen?
      Siddhānta astrology, which became dominant under Babylonian and Greek influence around the third century A.D. added a new dimension to the cosmic evil with which men had to contend: the planetary forces that were believed to shape an individual’s destiny. As protection against inauspicious movements of the Navagrahas, the nine heavenly bodies, the most effective counter-measures were held to be the performance of special, elaborate rituals, the graha pūjā or graha hōma - which weren’t always accessible. Thus the worship of other protective gods and goddesses was formalized to meet the needs of all socal classes. The cult of Vināyaka or Gaṇeśa became the most successful of these substitutes called on to meet the threats of both terrestrial and planetary forces of evil for many by which Vinayaka or Ganesha became known as vighna-harta (obstacle-remover) and became more populair among the ‘lower’ social classes.
      Note that he was at first absorbed in Shaivism through interpolated Puranas as an independent cult with Ganesha as the primary deity was well established by about the 10th century and after that time the most populair scriptures around Ganesha; Ganesha Purana and the Mudgala Purana which are verly late and interpolated puranas. Some scholars say the core of it came into existence around the 12th and 13th centuries, being subject to interpolations during the succeeding ages. R. Stevenson, in contrast, suggests the text was likely written in or after the 17th-century after having studies this purana. Every other scripture which mentions Ganesha is from the classical medieval Era (post-Gupta) hence, you will not find him in the spiritual Epics (viz. Rāmāyaṇa nor the Mahābhārata) which are Pre-Gupta.

    • @prabhakar0076
      @prabhakar0076 3 месяца назад

      So these people didn't read MAHABHARATHAM and its DOCUMENTER 😂😂😂

    • @krisc3371
      @krisc3371 3 месяца назад

      @@prabhakar0076 Ganesha as Mahabharat scribe is later interpolation, We r not like you who believes everything blindly 😆

  • @thirumalmurugan8993
    @thirumalmurugan8993 Год назад

    Would you name your forefathers, ancestors with the name you give now? NO RIGHT.. then why are you naming the older religions as HINDUISM when. It was SAIVISM (& VAINAVISM) ...SPEAK THE FACT AS IS WITH THE PERIOD NOT CORELATE WITH THE LATER PERIOD. THEN THE HISTORY WILL BECOME FALSE

  • @halaayudha
    @halaayudha Год назад

    misleading to say the least

  • @purusottamkanta69
    @purusottamkanta69 8 месяцев назад

    Budhist sripture

  • @vasanthasrikantha6512
    @vasanthasrikantha6512 Год назад +2

    you are totally wrong! Elephant was the symbol of Aseevakam, a religion that existed in Tamil Nadu long before Hinduism, and it is the elephant-headed god was hijacked to Hinduism as Shiva's son, a fake Purana story.

    • @TheKing-xp7lq
      @TheKing-xp7lq Год назад

      Fake id convert spotted .. can you present any historical reference for ur propaganda ??

    • @bgsssew
      @bgsssew Год назад

      Sound stupid hinduism did not exist in That time itvwas way of live maby you need learn more and listen to sadhguru

  • @venkatraman7396
    @venkatraman7396 Год назад

    Lot of conjectures in this video. Avvaiyar who belonged to the sangam period sang in praise of Ganesha long before Pallavas. She in fact asks a boon from Karimuga Ganapathy which bestows on her mastery of 'Sanga' Tamil Language. She also wrote the Vinayagar Agaval. So this part of the video is just DMK propoganda.