Why did Christianity Fail in Asia while Succeeding in Europe?
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- Why did Christianity Fail in Asia while Succeeding in Europe?
From its center point in Judea, Christianity began its early spread through the surrounding countries of the Levant - what we know now as Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and Cyprus. This led to the rollout into the Asian continent of Christianity as Antioch became a new home base for the faith after its evangelization allegedly by Peter the Apostle himself as well as Paul and Barnabas. Apostles Thaddaeus and Bartholomew and Simon and Andrew further evangelized Armenia and Georgia respectively as the span of the budding religion stretched further to the Eastern world; passing additionally through Mesopotamia and Parthia, and allegedly India as well on its way to the Far East.
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There is an error in the map, it's called Palestine not Israel.
How about being more objective stop with this how awful ooh east doesn't accept our white god cosmology from Jews into a messiah Mithra ripoff. ALSO write give KNOWLEDGE, why didn't Buddhism expand more into the west as it was BEFORE the rise of the cult of Christianity and was as far west into Greece and Levant with traveling monks teaching. Why doesn't ANY religion expand and tell the FACT it's like history spread by the Conquerors. Smaller religions never spread when they are local regional tribal based like Judiaism or pagan local gods. But global religions do better propaganda by saying it's for all ergo ALL MUST worship this particular gawd fitting nicely with colonizing, conquering and invading.
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I would argue that the biggest reason Christianity didn't become a majority religion in Asia(outside of Russia) was because the rulers were not converted. Some nobles and high officials converted ofcourse, but not the highest in command. In order for any religion to become dominant in a nation, it needs support from the Central Government. If the Chinese or Japanese Emperors became Christians, history would have been different.
I agree, that's usually how Abrahamic religions became dominant in the states they do today.
Best answear
What about India?
@@NahintheWThere was no Christian ruler. India had seen Hindu, Buddhist, Jain and Muslim kings, but not Christian.
Don't be silly. The supreme deity of Japanese religious Shinto is the Japanese emperor himself.
An additional perspective: You can pretty much correlate the success of Christianity depending on which country was carrying it. The Dutch, English and French colonizers did not place much emphasis on religion whereas Spain was practically a militant theocracy. You can see it today in the Philippines and most of South America where Catholicism, not just Christianity, is still the dominant faith.
Bro all Kingdoms at that time were therocracies,the English king was and still is the espiritual leader of the church of England, the French monarch was the protector of Christians in the east, these powers tried to convert their new subjects in the colonies but some were successful and other don't. In Africa we have a large Christian population in the south of the Ecuator.
Funny because the Dutch put the name "Allah" in their Bible in Indonesia until now for missionary and still failed.
@@iamorahman What's your point? The Indonesians were already introduced to Islam and Arabic, it made sense to preach to them calling god the Arabic name.
@@Rafael-CL big difference between Protestant kingdoms and Spain.
@@iamorahman Not talking about p3do religions like yours here.
Well as an Indian Christian from Kerala, a southern state in India, Christianity has existed here since the 1st Century. It was more peacefully practiced before Europe.
Thank god at least someone who may studied history just for context christianity has existed in india for 2 millenia ever since thomas the apostle of jesus christ came to india since 52 ad but was killed with a spear but since then his body remains are in mylapore in the saint thoma church
More evidence of his existence is by the cochin jews of kerala and the malayali syrians who live there and more evidence to back this up is the copper plates of kerala and king villarvottam who may be the first king to convert to christianity
Being too weak to wage war does not mean you are peaceful. I’m glad to have Christian brothers in India and I’m happy our lord has been saving people in your region for so long. Praise be to God. I’m just not sure why you felt the need to insult western Christians at the end. We are all brothers in Christ we are in this together. We all share in the sins of humanity not just the sins of Christians and our one hope at peace is through Christ.
@@kennethmays8059Well there was an emperor who gave up war (Ashoka) even though he had the most powerful Empire at that time. So you can't say that India was weak we have been the economic powerhouse throughout history though in general most of the empires were concerned or remained within India except some South Indian empires like chola Empire or khmer empire. Even the foreign rulers who came to India remained concerned with India too either Mughal Empire or Delhi sultanate they were also limited in Indian subcontinent. So you can't say they were weak but rather were interested in internal conflicts. According to your logic Nazi Germany during world war 2 was also weak since they were concerned with only Europe
@@samuraiboi2735 wrong. That Thomas clown never came to India.
As a Vietnamese, i could hypothesise that the reasons Christianity isn’t big in Vietnam are because:
1. The majority of Vietnamese population already has their own system of believes, which is actually a combination of Confucianism, Buddhism and some principles we came up with ourselves.
2. A lot of dynasties and particular kings during our feudal era actually advocated for Buddhism, to the point that Buddhist monks held vital positions in the court. A lot of them spent money on building temples and pagodas for Buddhism worship.
3. Buddhism is here in Vietnam first, and it wasn’t until it’s fairly established did Christianity came to the country. By then, our system of believes has already been quite strong and reinforced through generations.
But it’s just a theory, a game theory 😂😂
Luckily, you were not destroyed by the West. That is how most of Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions spread: through conquest and butchering of people.
Vietnam war and communism maybe also a be good reason ?
Love your last statement 😂
You don't need a theory. It's clearly recorded in history. Christianity was banned for most of history because it forbids the worship of ancestors historical figures, as the Catholic church saw it as idolatry. This prevents Christianity from spreading further, so much so that the Catholic church had to concede and allowed Catholics in China to "venerate" ancestors and historical figures in 1939. The same practices were allowed in Vietnam in 1956.
Hinduism was 1st in Vietnam, Buddhism came after that. In fact Hinduism was there in all of the South east Asia.
There are many Lord Shiva Statues being excavated from Vietnam these days.
Hinduism and Buddhism can almost never be replaced by these new religions as they’ve stood the test of time and adapted for as long as recorded history goes.
Indonesia?
@@dennisthemenace4288 hindu Buddhist traditions can be found.
The more dumber the Indian religions looks from the outside... The more fulfilling they are from inside
But Abrahmic religions from outside looks perfect
One God, One book and Story of guy who brought/wrote the book while adding all the stories of previous religion
But from inside they seem hollow
Christianity has always been against science. Since they know their claims are so stupid, even an educated kid can expose it.
In Hinduism however, we do not claim to know the "one true path" or the "one true book".
We do not have commandments, because we are seekers. Seekers of answers and meaning. Seekers of God, and seekers of ourselves.
Star Wars beat the idealogical shit out of both Hindus and Christians with nothing but cool glowy swords and the dependability of the youth to always be massive disappointments to civilization.
It's hollow on the inside and out but Disney still makes a fkton of money off it.
:/
Just kind of give Jesus and Buddha a bunch of drugs and dare them to sword fight and boom its Star Wars.
You should have talked more about the Saint Thomas Christians of Kerala in India. It is one of the oldest Christian communities in the world and it is still thriving today. They follow the original Middle Eastern Christian traditions but are also well integrated into Indian society and are indistinguishable from the Hindu majority except when it comes to their religious practices.
They are way better than the post colonial Christian missionaries who plunged and decimated numerous tribes who resisted colonial imposition.
Moreover, Many Christians nowadays are showing their Loyalty to their European counterparts and They seem to face a Identity crisis.
Proganda base ... With out proof Christian
Yeah👍.In.Europeans.. Jews. Also. Leve. It. Kerala🇮🇳.
Is the original Middle Easter Christian tradition basically the OG Christianity?
Probably from the land of nairi...armenia?
The main reason for the missionaries' failure in Sri Lanka was that they lost 5 major debates with the Buddhist monks. Sri Lanka was the first country to fully embrace Buddhism in 250 BCE. The golden lion holding the kastane sword on the red background of the national flag represents that the Sinhalese nation has embraced Buddhism and will always preserve it bravely. 🇱🇰 ☸️
Best thing about Buddhism is that you can modify it. According to Buddhism one can discard what one don't like. Example Buddha was a non violent person but violence is necessary to counter violence.
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@@tato_g_boro_guy all that rant you saw somewhere the word *islam*
@@Gabdoon2 I know
@@tato_g_boro_guy Though We can't discard anything, we can add to it. Catholic Europeans united against the Islamic Empires that were invading them during the Holy Wars.
"Allegedly India" Bro there are christians in southern India. Saint Thomas went there and converted the local jews. There are still nestorian christians in India. This shows how much love went into this video lol.
Yes only he denies my existence
It didn't stop with Jews, it went to all communities, Ramban Pattu shows that
Crypto jews
@@bloedblarre what crypto Jews? As a saint Thomas Christian I’m not a crypto jew
Saint Thomas is a fictional character. He never existed
I read a story about a Portuguese priest who was trying to convert Japanese people in the 16th century. After having little success he finally got one Japanese guy to convert to Christianity. But the day after his baptism the priest saw him worshiping at a Buddhist temple. Later the priest asked the guy why he was at the Buddhist temple now that he was a Christian. The man replied “I am a Christian but I’m still a Buddhist”. I don’t know if this story is true or not but it gives an idea how hard it for Christian missionaries to get Asian converts who already had established religions.
If that is true it exemplifies the syncretism in Japan, where most xintoists are also buddhists
I believe it. It actually happens a lot in East asian countries. They just mix every religion. Even after converting they still practice shamanism.
Because Buddhism is inherently different from Christianity Buddhism puts more emphasis on practice than anything else, which allows for other animistic religions to be practiced alongside it, Christianity requires you to acknowledge that there is only one god. That concept obviously did not translate well
🤣that's kinds funny
These are all propaganda based stories to spread CHRISTIANITy and to give the local people a story for origin
Armenia is the first country to adopt Christianity in 301 AD, not only in Asia, but throughout the world 🏆🥇🇦🇲✝️⛪
Followed by Georgia at 303 AD
Not you again :I
@@tonyantonio8956
And then Ethiopia
You make it sound like a good thing 😂
@@zaurukraus9296 it is a good thing, why? You Don't believe in god?
The spread of Christianity into India is particularly fascinating. The faith reached Kerala before it reached England, at around the year 50 (it wasn't until the 300s when it reached British shores). It spread so rapidly because of the long-established sea trade route already active in the India Ocean. It's these trade routes that brought Islam to Indonesia as well. Today in the city of Chennai, you can find the tomb of Saint Thomas as well as a truly ancient community of believers.
Christian missionaries are still working hard in India.
They have got major success in north-east and southern part of India.
Now a days there is a lot of resistance because of awareness among Hindus
Still western propoganda is working hard to victimize them*
But they're not gonna succed in North india😅. Although we love Christian people bcz unlike muslams they're actually better and have liberal understanding of world.
Christian missionaries activities have been stopped across India which is good
@@roshandinesh6701 I don't think so, there are so many videos on social media showing some father curing people just by the name of jesus
It's good that atleast some part have become Christians❤
There are literally 34 million christians in India. It might be a drop of people in that country, but it accounts for more people than the entire population of Australia or most European countries
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That is 3.4 percent of the population
More like 2.3%. India is at 1.4 billion
@@Roachh28772.3%
@Roachh2877 and yet, that's almost as many people as Canada, most countries like Belgium, Sweden etc
Only few countries in Asia where Christianity is successful, such as Philippines, East Timor, South Korea. From my point of view, I think that one of the reasons is most of Asian countries have alredy had the well established religion in their countries before the coming of the West. Even some of them were colonized, the long established religions which enrooted in the society was very hard to be changed.
All peoples had their own religions and religious views prior to Christ. The real issue is geography, and well Christians caring about the great commission to teach the nations. Only a tiny fraction of Christians even bother to share their faith locally no less abroad.
Overtime Christianity will grow in the East and it will have its own unique cultural flavors there too just as it does in the west.
That's true. Even here in the Philippines, Abrahamic religions didn't really penetrate deeply to the hearts and minds of the locals. We're basically practicing folk Catholicism and folk Islam here. Superstitions, beliefs in elves/nymphs/goddess of the woods and sacred groves, belief in karma and samsara (reincarnation), and belief in folk healers, which are all rooted in pre-colonial native Anitoism and Hindu-Buddhism, are still being observed.
Early Philippine mosques were reminiscent of Asian multi-tiered wooden pagoda structures.
Yes the guy doesn’t know what he is talking about. He said the Philippines had no centralized religion, when it was actually Islam. And then he claimed over 400 years of Spanish rule, when it was only 300 smh
@@justchilling704no, the estimates say that Islam will be the mort religion followed by atheism
South Korea is Atheist
I don't think you can make a country like India, a Christian country. Since Hinduism was born right here in india.. it's both our culture and religion . And hinduism and Buddhism are value based religion migrating from that to abrahamic religions which are more rule based seems like reverse evolution..Regardless what india is, i hope it prosper .
Islam did not succeed how can Christians succeed to conquer us as a Christian Jai Shri Krishna
@@user-mn9dy6qq2s not about conquering .. like foreign religion can come from trades too. Because you can physically see when foreigners are conquering you and oppose it .but religion through trade comes sneakly ..Still that wouldn't succeed because of reasons mentioned.
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What about over 300 million Indian Muslims in India? They will be at 2025
@@samiman5606 🤣🤣 bro bro 30 million are you know how which bigger than Pakistan Indonesia how can you count i know you r maulana that'why no pak still have higher than India because pak have high TFR not what about there are always not power on him and not will be it just a population on other other sides it's good nothing is wrong india is largest democratic country and population will be help us
@@samiman5606Hindus are still in majority in 2024 and much more than muslims.
Once they went to Andamans Sentinel island but never returned
Even god didn't protected that pastor
💀💀💀
@@Akshay13134lol,God called that pastor.
@@Harshh..294 These pastors are like marketing agents they go from place to place and sell their product( jesus) and later if customer buys that product (jesus) they get money for believing in him this is a nice business with literally no investment all you need is a book (bible) that's it he is all set to start a new faith business
@@Akshay13134 well who cares about them brother.
Christianity in India is, due to the Apostle Thomas, in fact much older than in most parts of Europe.
The existence of someone like that was only known after the Portuguese arrived in India. There was no mention of him ever before the Portuguese. It is considered a made up story so converted people don’t feel inferior and claim Christianity as being a native religion and not something borrowed from outside.
@@Rohitweasley There are scriptures in Malayali dating to the 4th century, so no I don’t think the Portuguese were the ones who introduced it to people living in India… Also with the amount of trade between the coastal regions of the subcontinent and other parts of the world, it makes no sense that it would take 1500 years for people to learn of Christianity.
52 AD they say
Its a cookedup story... early christians in india are all syrian christians
@@Rohitweasley nah that is definitely not true. Christianity had long roots in India by the time the Portuguese even got to Kerala. The Portuguese might have helped spread it to Goa though, true
If you were looking at the Christian world from the perspective of someone living in the 7th century, you wouldn't think that Christianity had "failed" in Asia like we do today. At that time, most Christians still lived in what we today call the "Middle East." There were more Christians in places like Egypt, North Africa, Anatolia (Turkey), Syria and Iraq than in France, Britain, and Italy, and places like Scandinavia and Russia hadn't even converted to Christianity by that point. However, those places were all conquered by Islam in the 7th century and eventually most of the Christian population was replaced by Muslim migrants or converted to Islam. Still, some Christian communities survived--in Sudan Christian kingdoms lasted until the 15th century, Christian communities still exist today in Egypt and Syria, and Christian nations of Ethiopia never were conquered by the Muslims. Also places like Turkey still had a large Christian population up until only a century ago. Christianity also had a big presence in Iran and Central Asia until the Mongol conquests. Had it not been for the rise of Islam, Christianity likely would still be the dominant religion in the Middle East and North Africa today, and had more significant communities in Iran and Central Asia. Half of Muslim lands were Christian at some point, so it isn't 100% accurate to say that Christianity failed in those regions when for centuries they were successful there.
Facts.
They failed because they lost lands to muslims!
@@WallNutBreaker524
And folks.
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Not full true... Yes there was more christians in syria, iraq, some parts of north africa before islam .. But iran was ruled by sassanid and sassanid were zoroastrians. Shamanism and buddhism was the religion of central asia before islam. Yemen was a jewish kingdom and other gulf countries were pagans
I really appreciate the way this video was done. Quick and concise with maps to roughly explain region. We'll done.
Had the Byzantine Empire not been in constant decline I would see Christianity being the dominant religion in the middle east and most of central Asia
An ancient empire llike the byzantines survived for a thousand years already, its impressive.
Sorry you can't be in constant decline for about 1200 years.
The rise of Islam changed history, they destroyed lots of Christianity
Byzantium is like that tbh, they get like 3 seperate golden age just to prepare themselves to another Triple Civil War with a Persian/Caliphate Invasion while the Latin West Crusade their way through the Eastern Roman Empire.@@ionutpaun9828
Agree byzantine is a powerful empire but due to corrupt and incompetent Emperor's and higher officials it's falls to it's own decline
As a Filipino-Chinese christian i thank you for going a little in depth how deep chinese Christianity's history is.
are there chinese in the phippine？
@@hoonwaretien8363 A lot of Filipinos are Chinese mixed. More than there are people who are Spanish mixed or American mixed. So yeah
@@mong9942 I donot think that’s true,it’s best for Chinese peop to speak Chinese according to their standards
@@hoonwaretien8363 Weird logic, ethnicity isn't based on language and most of the Chinese-Filipinos are from Cantonese, Hakka, and Min regions.
@@mong9942 好了好了
I respect those people who rejected christianity to protect their indigenous faith❤
Way to move forward kings
And keep protecting your ancient religious beliefs and culture.
From a fellow pagan ❤
Why Christianity and Islam are so much interested in converting people instead of embracing different cultures and religions?
Religion and culture are two different but interconnected things. You can easily tell apart an Asian Christian from his European counterpart.
Because they both insist they are "the one true religion".
@@daragildea7434 Everyone insists that, it's not exclusive.
@magatism not necessarily, because during the pagan days of Antiquity there were many syncretic practices like adopting foreign gods into one's own pantheon, or like the interpretatio graeca, identify these foreign deities as one of theirs.
For example the cult of the Egyptian Isis or the Persian Mithras in Rome itself or even conflating the Jewish Yahweh as the Roman Jupiter.
The "one true God/religion" is much more a late thing that came with the Christians (and previously with the Jews of course)
@@hieratics Don't talk as if you were there. You have no clue what pagans have done in the past. Aztechs and Mayans slaughtered whole people to appease their Gods, ate their hearts. Romans killed 70,000 people every year in arena for entertainment alone. When the population of Rome city was 40,000, In China whole ethnicities are buried in the wall becoz ching or mingg dynasty did not like their worship. Infact one of the bloodiest battle in history was fought against Christians in china by these socalled pagans killing 20-30 million. And how do you think Buddhists who ruled from Afghanistan to Burma became dalits in India. Pagans are hypocrites and the funny thing is you dont even realize it. It's as if they are not equipped with the study bone. You don't adopt practices, you usurp them, that is called cultural appropriation.
Missed one big piece: Christianity didn’t spread by conquest in the Roman Empire; those areas were already inside Rome so they could move around very quick
Well obviously it won't 🙄 literally the one who started the move of baptising everyone forcefully in the empire was the emperor himself like duh
@@williamrobert9898hope puberty is going better today for you.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 It hasn't even hit you just yet
@@williamrobert9898 find a productive hobby young man. Learn a foreign language or a musical instrument.
@@silencemeviolateme6076 heed your own advice instead of trolling on the Internet
Very interesting topic indeed. As a Muslim, it's fascinating to see what events in history led to the spreading of certain religions. Now I really wanna see another video on religion based topics like why Islam was unable to spread West and in Europe or why Hinduism prevailed mostly in India and not spread West beyond Persia (Iran) and others similar topics like this one.
mostly because you were too weak to conquer Europe
Not taking any sides ,but they bitchslapped the Romans so hard that the holy land is still under muslim rule (ignoring current jewish rule)
@@marusdod3685 4chan is the other way sir.
Hinduism doesn't really focus on preaching like Abrahamic religions do.Also it's not an organized religion, rather an umbrella term for many local beliefs that originated across different parts of India. The "vedic religion" is not what modern day's "Hinduism" looks like.
The local culture is what Hinduism is.
Sanatana Dharma has a strong base of Upanishads, Shrimad Bhagavad Geeta. @@nomanmreedha5235
I think the main reason was that Many Colonizers were basically using Christianity as a tool for creating Loyalist within their Colonies and other territories.
Most of the Time, Colonizers used to strip certain parts of the population from basic necessities altogether. After which the Christian missionaries took up their roles in imitating as an angel to save them.
However, Missionaries put forward a condition. The victims had to be converted to Christianity in order to receive the help/ aid.
Those who resisted were either plunged or left to die. Many Tribes have been wiped out entirely due to such malpractices. Hence they are also known as "Soul Vultures".
Nowadays, Christian missionaries only target weaker sections by offering them bribes (around $200) to convert into Christianity.
They sell the product jesus,in the name of peace and Jesus they killed many people in the world
Soul vultures 😂😂
@@bobfaam5215 Could have used harsher words though...
St. Thomas Christians of southern tip of India - especially in the State of Kerala - remained a very interesting example of localized Christian community which could dated way back to St. Thomas, the Apostle of Christ, himself
Even they are just 18% of population . Hindus and Muslims are in majority .
Short answer: The original Christian faith was seen as a more humanitarian religion by many in Roman society (despite its persecution) and was eventually adopted and enforced as a state religion allowing it to spread. However, in the far east other faiths like Buddhism and Hinduism were already dominant and there was no state that was really willing to impose Christianity outside of later European colonizers. Some nations also suppressed Christianity and stopped it from spreading, the spread of Islam being the biggest example along with individual countries like Japan after the Shimubara rebellion.
I think the main reason was that Many Colonizers were basically using Christianity as a tool for creating Loyalist within their Colonies and other territories.
Most of the Time, Colonizers used to strip certain parts of the population from basic necessities altogether. After which the Christian missionaries took up their roles in imitating as an angel to save them.
However, Missionaries put forward a condition. The victims had to be converted to Christianity in order to receive the help/ aid.
Those who resisted were either plunged or left to die. Many Tribes have been wiped out entirely due to such malpractices. Hence they are also known as "Soul Vultures".
Nowadays, Christian missionaries only target weaker sections by offering them bribes (around $200) to convert into Christianity.
Why are you saying foolishness. Christianity was their in India from (Ad 52)very olden days itself.Old Christians in Kerala are known as syrian Christians. They are called syrian Christians because they use Syrian language in their prayers. Syrian Christians can be found only in Kerala and Syria.Christianity came to kerala from Middle east not from Europe.If you have doubt please check the link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Thomas_Christians
Don't try to spout lies about a lot of missionaries. People became Christians because of their willingness to convert not because of bribes and force.
@@historian252 the king of the Rus literally converted to Christianity because it let him drink alcohol (Islam didn’t) and trade with the Byzantines more. Most of Germany is only Christian because Charlemagne literally led an early crusade to burn down their sacred tree and built a church on top of it. Christianity absolutely did spread because of coercion and bribery, and I haven’t even mentioned the age of exploration. Even saints like mother Theresa were outed for saying things like their job wasn’t to actually help people only to save their souls which lead many of their clinics to be neglected and even badly maintained. Willingness to convert isn’t always by choice or by heart it’s often because you have no other option of you want to continue living.
@motivationallizard6644 Lies. Vladimir never historically said that and people say it was an anecdote.
Apparently the Church of the East was considered one of the largest Christian groups back in the Medieval period, spread out across Asia. Now they are one of the smallest, mostly made of Assyrians in Iraq and their diaspora along with some Christian groups in southern India.
They got killed out by a certain religion who also created disconnect and dark ages
"Across Asia" is a big exaggeration. That would have been the Near East aka "Asia Minor". It was always sparse further east. However, the Russian Orthodox Church itself came from Eastern Christian Orthodoxy and that extends to the Pacific.
The Archbishops of Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem, and Alexandria were each considered to be on roughly the same level of the Archbishop of Rome. Hence the split.
Islam came about in the late 600s and spread East (and West), so that took over the Near East and beyond.
@@leoguarknight1588 I didn't realize the Germanic tribes who destroyed the Roman Empire and destroyed all that knowledge were Muslim. In fact history records them as being Arian (not Aryan) Christians.
Many Romans themselves felt that it was Christianity that eroded the morals of the Empire and fatally weakened it.
Interesting fact that during the Dark Ages in Europe, Muslim Spain was widely considered the most educated part, to the point where European nobles would sent their children there. I used the phrase "Dark Ages in Europe" because it wasn't the Dark Ages in Greece or the Near & Middle East. Quite the opposite. It was they who preserved the Roman knowledge base.
The Renaissance happened when Greek scholars fled/were hired by Italian nobles, bringing their texts with them (the Roman Catholic Church itself had some of these old Roman books).
@recoil53 you are right. Even in South Asia we consider Middle age as the golden age. We look up to our medival history.
@@leoguarknight1588Religion of peace
My grand mother converted to chrsitianity the reason is she got 🤑🤑💰💰 from chrsitians
But she has no faith in christ she goes to hindu mandir
By the way may grandfather didn't convert
my dad also same😂
Your granny played a Uno on them idiots 😂
@@moyai8508 😅😅🤟🤟😁🤣🤣
I had a friend 🤣 his family got converted so that his son can study in good school and after he completed his school life he and his family again converted to Hinduism 🤣they said we converted to Christianity so that our child can study in international school with less fees as in India there are so many Christian schools were Christians are charged less fees as compared to hindu or any other religion
@@Jatinkunwar17 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hinduisum buddisum allow maximum freedom ... No one asked to worship forced to go temples... So most of knowleged peoples not like to go temples church in holidays... So they dont take christanity.. Becase it took dain holiday like sunday.. No one want to loose holiday for triveless reson
Pyongyang was once called the Jerusalem of the east as there was a large number of Christians in the city.
Islam in West Asia served as effective barrier from Christian conquests.
By 18th century Europe was more concerned with colonialism for economic reasons
really only Spain was motivated by religion for its colonial expansion. Most other European countries were motivated by economic reasons.
Part of that is timing- when Spain discovered the new world, they had just finished a major Crusade against Muslims in southern Spain, so they just continued that strategy in the New World.
That's not entirely correct because Islam arrived much later than Christianity.
@@rcc8506yes
@@rcc8506 true but Christianity was accutally fairly well spread in the east prior to that.
Regarding the commenters statement Christianity had not ever been involved in any "conquests" prior to the rise of Islam. Christianity was not militant before Islam's rise. First Christian based conquest was done by Charlemagne.
And Spains reconquista was effective barrier for europe against further islamic conquests.
There are many faces on India.
1. Vedic Era, where Vedic culture was introduced and highly followed.
2. Buddhist Era, Buddhism being introduced in Northen India used to be highly followed teaching across the Indian Subcontinent.
3. Islamic India - It is the period where there were several Indo-Islamic Empires along with Hindu Empires.
These are one reasons for the failure of Christianity. Christianity used to be least in North but a lot in South in India.
In Thailand we do not resist missionary,they are welcomed, but we just do not believe it. Notion of god doesn't make sense to us.
Love Buddhists bro I am indian hindu😊
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In Buddhism who decides where you go next well it would need to be someone who knows All your thoughts words and deeds aka God Buddhist deny God but there believes contricate themselves everything that exists testifies of the ( Father Son Holy Spirit) these 3 are 1 everything that exists ( Time Space Matter) time ( past present future) these 3 are 1 matter ( solid liquid gas) these 3 are 1 space ( length breadth depth) these 3 are 1 humans made in Gods image ( Body Mind Spirit) these 3 are 1 we do things in ( Thought Word Deed )
On a rather trivial issue, the narrator kept confusing "further" and "farther." 'Further' refers to a logical progression or a temporal sequence. 'Farther' refers to a literal physical distance.
Engrish.
Christian Countries in Asia ✝️☦️
🇷🇺 Russia
🇬🇪 Georgia
🇦🇲 Armenia
🇨🇾 Cyprus
🇰🇷 South Korea
🇵🇭 Philippines
🇹🇱 East Timor
Korea is secular country
Sorry I have doubt on South Korea becose most of koreans are connected with there buddhist identity then outside faith
Russia is europe
Russia is not asian country, 70% of it's population lives in european part of country and it is Russia's historical center
@@GaMer22vand asia
Thanks to our ancestors we didn't convert to any abrahimic religion christian and islam. Christianity and Islam r not different in past they forcefully converted hindus buddhist in india.
Exactly bhai, glory to our pitras
Praise the supreme lord SriKrishna. Jai SriKrishna
India had Christians(assumed to be around 52 CE) long before Rome aka Europe even accepted it in 312 CE(almost 300 years since its inception in the Holy Land).
Even the Coptic Pantaenus who travelled to India around the 2nd century CE reported of India having its own indigenous Christian population having HEBREW Gospels, guess what ?
Latin Bibles were not a norm back then, the Syriac Christianity was dominant from Persia to China to India to Mongolia, which emphasizes on "Aramaic" over Vulgate versions popularized and heavily mistranslated today.
Not to forget that India is the only country outside the Holy Land where two apostles of the Jesus are assumed to have preached viz., Apostle Thomas in Southern India and Apostle Bartholomew in Western India.
Meanwhile, it flourished in Ethiopia, Yemen, Persia and India but brutally suppressed in Europe under many tyrants such as Nero.
India is full of surprises!!!
Even amazing is that 70% population of Syriac Rite Christians live in India and not in Syria/Iraq.
Even amazing is that there are more Basilicas of Mother Mary in the tiny state of Tamil Nadu than the entire country of Italy.
One more fact, "Saint Thomas Christians" as they're called opposed Portuguese occupations and Coonan Cross Covenant is a sign of their staunch resistance against European Imperialism on Indian Soil.
But as usual, European schisms occured here too and you'd see this Nasarni community be Protestant, Syriac Catholic, Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Jacobite, and guess what? Even Pentecostals.
We in India respect them for how amazingly proud they are of their culture blending Middleeastern traditions with Indian roots and being proud of them both as well as building and being the pioneers of education and nursing sector in our country.
I respect them a lot.
Same for the Ethiopians who were the only African country that wasn't colonised and they kicked Italy out of their territory.
I feel sorry for the Antiochian Rite Christians in Turkiye though, such bad times they had to live with European and then Turkic Agression as with Armenian Orthodox Christians.
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@@ikengaspirit3063 can you explain it again? I didn't understand what you were trying to say.
@@abc_cbaA brilliant explanation of the history of Christianity in India...! Hats off!! 🥳🙌
@@pradeepakrish thanks bro, history is one of my favorite subjects.
I am an accidental Engineer 😂😂 who went to work in the IT sector, but I enjoy my work as I get my hands on data even deep down now.
Very well broken down. You did a MUCH better job than this youtube video which COMPLETELY ignored Christian history in India.
Like there are more Christians in India than Korea
Ethiopia was a very early adopter of Christianity. They were in the Acts in the Bible itself. They sent Bishops to the Councils of Nicaea and Carthage.
That's in Africa though....
@@williamrobert9898 Yes, but limiting the scope in that way excludes an example that challenges the hypotheses OP used for why it expanded more easily in Rome.
@@brianm7287 The video is about Christianity's limited spread in Asia so yeah obviously it would focus on Asia only
@@williamrobert9898 I know the scope was limited. That's my point. Limiting the scope allowed OP to have an uncontroverted hypothesis that didn't pan out elsewhere.
@brianm7287 I don't get it, if anything it's the exact opposite as Africa was subjected to Christian evangelization. Limiting the scope to Ethiopia only also doesn't serve as an argument against the video too as it was mentioned that there were some countries which were successfully christianized in Asia without being anywhere near the birth place of the religion
Christianity was imposed by force in Europe just like it was in Africa and the Americas. Currently in the west Christianity is something most people do not adhere to, Liberal Athiesm is the dominant ideology in the west and they are also trying to spread this to other parts of the world. Latin America also mostly has a liberal culture.
Ppl in the comment section talking about the spread of abrahamic religions by conversions both forced circumstantial and massacres as a sweet success 😂😂.. Wow..
That's what the basic principles of Christianity and Islam
@@Mlecchakshaydixit 100%, Most Religions in the South East originated far more earlier than Abrahamic ones.
Dude, Hinduism makes even less sense. Don't talk.
What hindu king did to Buddhist??
We all know history of cruel Hindu kings
@jimcannibal4911 😂😂
The real question is: Why is Christianity failing in Europe? With the Nordic countries and the UK only having a church attendance of less than 5%. And Italy, home of the Pope, less than 30% attending to church/ actually practising the religion.
People are growing more cynical as they should be. It’s similar to the times when the population grew less interested in polytheism.
@@RedCommunistDragon its because they keep importing muslims
@@RedCommunistDragon So why Judaism and Islam keep going strong in their origin land and elsewhere?
@@satriorama4118 Fear, optimism, various reasons.
@@RedCommunistDragon Why White Christians are converting into LGBTQ+ cult.
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@@imranameenudeenimranameenu2794lol cry rivers dear Islamist 😂
It's really quite simple, and you touched on it...Christianity succeeded where it had government support (the Roman Empire) and failed where it did not. In the rest of Europe outside the empire, it spread where the rulers were converted, and failed where they did not. Christianity is the largest single religion in the world today because of European and American imperialism. That's pretty much it.
No, it was becoz these societies were previously pagans that they forced things. Christian West ruled asia for 200 years and yet they did not force, otherwise it would be a totally different story.
South America converted becoz of brutality of their own religions, same goes for Africa, even Rome, This was also seen in India around 18-19th cen and is currently being seen in China which now has officially 200 million registered Christians, the actual number is around 400.
@@magatism Not true at all. Christianity was a minor religion in the Roman empire until Constantine made it an avenue to socioeconomic and political advancement. The only reason you see large numbers of christians in Korea and Singapore is because colonial rule opened the doors to large numbers of missionaries. South America was converted to Catholicism by brute force - native religions were outlawed and destroyed by force. Largely the same thing happened in Africa...Christianity had made little headway until the European powers conquered the place by force. Same with India.
Christianity has just about peaked. I think the next century will see it fade.
@@njhoepner Nope, it was the emerging religion in western empire whwre all the power was concentrated. In politics, nobody does these things for free. Chiristians in west know this, that's why they are supporting Trump...
I think one of the standpoints that is not touched on is how much stronger Mediterranean trade routes were compared to trade routes along the Silk Road. While the Silk Road was big it is just easier to travel along the Mediterranean coast
Jews controlled the silk road. Also, rhadanites.
Short answer, it got the backing of the full might of the Roman Empire, as it was its only state backed religion. The east did not have a unified militaristic empire and it was on the crossroads of cultures religions and philosophies, with which it had to contend and coexist with.
If I recall correctly, Armenia was the first nation with state sanctioned Christianity, some 20 years or so before Constantine began to heavily support it. Granted, Armenia was much smaller than the Roman Empire and more of a client state than an outright military power, but Armenians take pride in their nation's acceptance of the faith. Sorry if this is unwelcome, I just like the little details. It's a personal quirk of mine.
Except the East did in fact have a unified militaristic empire literally bordering Rome called the Parthian Empire.
And the Parthian Empire was also quickly getting Christianised at the same pace as the Roman Empire.
Had the Romans not made Christianity their state religion, there is a good chance it would have been made the state religion of Parthia eventually.
Even the Persian Shah, who invaded the Roman Empire when it had been Christianised, had a Persian Christian wife and he took the relic of the Holy Cross back to Persia to place it in his wife's Christian Royal Chapel there.
But Persia got worried that the Christians within their Empire might be "Roman spies" and so they started persecuting the Christian population and tried to revive the Zoroastrian faith.
Unfortunately for them, this decision solidified their demise at the hands of the Muslim Arab armies that invaded them in the 7th century.
This is because, in their efforts to attack their own Christian population, they started creating issues with the Christian Arab tribes on their borders.
When the Muslim Arab armies invaded, these Christian Arab tribes, because of their pan-Arab affiliations, would join their fellow Arabs and take down the Zoroastrian Parthians.
But a solid Christian population remained in the region for centuries and would send missionaries from there to China and Central Asia.
This is why when the Mongols invaded the Islamic world, the Christians were mostly spared because many of the Mongols either had Christian wives from Central Asia or were Christian themselves.
But once the Mongols converted to Islam, that was the final nail in the coffin for Asian Christians until the coming of the European missionaries.
They annihilated various Christian communities through extensive taxation or outright murder.
And the final end came at the hands of Timur, who targetted everyone but was especially brutal with the existing Christian communities across Iran, Central Asia, Georgia and Armenia - the last 2 barely made it out alive from his slaughter.
This would remain the state of the Christians of the East, until European missionaries went out to Korea, Japan, China and Philippines and a new period of Asian Christianity dawned.
But here too lies a story of what may be the eventual fate of this current period - Pyongyang was once known as the Rome of the Orient, due to the high prevalence of Christianity and the number of churches in that city.
Today, it would be shocking to even think of the city in that light.
And the roman empire didnt have control over the middle east as the parthians were always pushing on the border so any expansion eastward was impossible. Then islam.
I mean, sure Rome helped but remember that by the time Rome fell, everything north of the alps and pyrannees was conquered by Pagan Franks and Angles. I think it is more the lack of similarly organized religions while Asia had several from Zoroastrianism, Islam, the Dharmic and the Chinese religions.
@@ikengaspirit3063 well no, the thing is the germanic people's were quite tollerant of different religions and soon converted. So that makes no difference, they also had a good reason to keep christianity around. It had a certain infrastructure with it's churches which they could just copy to have an easier time to rule over their lands.
I'm Korean and add to this. Pyongyang, capital of north korea was originally center of Korean christianity in 19 and 20c and lots of christians lived there. but North became communism country then most christians of North moved to South. Thanks to that, South had lots of Christians and First president of South, Lee was also Christian. So now one of the major religions in South become Christianity.
Sad
what's the use? South Koreans are the most racist bunch out there
Kind of ironic that Kim Il Sung was raised Presbyterian, his father was a deacon and his grandfather was a preacher, to bad he converted to the religion of communism.
@@Liethen cult of communism
One thing NK did good was the second and third largest religions are Chondoism and another local Korean religion. Not outsider religions like Christianity or Buddhism
Meanwhile: the Philippines, colonized by Catholics (Spanish) and Protestants (US), now with a culture and society with deeply entwined church, state, and family. -_- T_T
Read about the leyenda negro. Catholic Spain was the good guy, not a “colonizer” but a nation seeking to build under one roof of Christ, to prevent the subversice tactics of jews from gaining global domination. Jews were still new, as they were called Phoenicians or Ugarites during early Roman times. There are 2 types of empires models in their expansion:
Generative: They incorporate those societies they come into contact with through cultural affinity. Cultures mix, and for example, a Roman emperor could be one even if they were not born on the Italian peninsula.
Predatory (example: colonies). They do not establish viceroyalties but make agreements with local oligarchs to extract resources.
Catholic Spain was the descendant of Rome under Christ. The south american atrocities commited under the flag of Spain was actually all New Christians. new Christians were crypto jewish conquistadors that destroyed the Incas with toxic blankets and the Aztecs too. Look for hernan cortes’s jews. Cartagena de Indias literally means New Carthage of the Indies. Carthage was destroyed by Rome which manumitted the berber slaves. This is why they are called Amazigh meaning Free People. Please search for yourself to confirm.
In my readings about Philippines History is that the reason that the spanish was able to convert our ancestors is that they applied the lessons they learned from Latin America. By studying the native language and customs, they were able to spread the faith far and wide. The Proof is this is the Tagalog Doctrina Cristiana and Vocabularios de la lengua de tagala
(For the Spanish to easily earn tagalog).
The Spanish almost always evangelized after learning the languages of the peoples they were trying to convert. It's no surprise spanish missionaries created entire formal grammatical and orthographic books for Nahuatl, Quechua and Mayan languages before other europeans like the english or dutch created those kind of literary works for their own languages. That's also why (compared to other european colonial powers) there aren't too much pidgins or creole languages in current or former spanish-speaking territories derived from spanish, the missionaries really made an effort to make the natives bilingual, As of now, I can only think of 2 spanish-based creoles including Chavacano and its variants, while french, portuguese and english have several.
@@BN.ja05 That is correct, however chavacano is not the only creole language present here in the Philippines. The have a spanish creole variant called market spanish which mixed with other local languages also some dialects of Chavacano such as those in Malate, Ermita went extinct after the Second World War.
Chavacano Caviteño is endangered as well.
@@danielinciongtungol9338 the Spanish forced the conversion of Filipinos to Catholic faith. Saying that they learned the faith from the missionaries is a complete horse excrement, they already know the Christian belief from the Muslims who were already established in the archipelago.
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You might like Daily Dose Of Wisdom. He's a former atheist too. So is Cold-Case Christianity.
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Thank you for the interesting video. I would enjoy a follow-up video on some of the rest of Asia that didn't get a big plug in this video if ever you're interested.
God be with you out there, everybody, in Asia and the world. ✝️ :)
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The only reason why Philippines is majority Catholic today is because during the early 1600's, they outlawed paganism and criminalised it. In pre colonial Philippines, the natives practiced different kinds of Austronesian paganism and they're mainly based on ancestral worship where you had to pray and do different kinds of worship towards wooden statues depicting ancestral spirits (Anito)...
They had similar gods to the Maoris in NZ like the god of the sea and sky
Pre colonial Philippines was mainly Muslim, Spain fought and defeated several Sultanates, only animist were Negritos who by the way were hunted down and slaved by Malay Muslim Filipinos colonizers who arrived just before Spaniards
Thanks to Spain there are Negritos alive today at the Philippines, if not for its protection they would have been slaughtered by Malay colonizers, like they did with Negritos in Indonesia
@@user-yl5pi3sg6uthe notion of pre-colonial Philippines as mainly Muslim is utterly false. Pre-colonial Philippines mainly consisted of Aminists, Hindu-Buddhists and Muslims. In fact some if not many of Philippine gods are Hindu influenced. I mean come on many of our Kings held the Hindu title of Rajah. Hindu-Buddhism has in the Islands since 900 AD while Islam only in the 1300s.
Ancient Philippinos were Muslim.....look at Rajah Sulaiman
@@bugsy101073 take a look at Rajamura Sri Lumaya the founder of Cebu was an Indian Minor Hindu Prince of the Chola Dynasty, take a look at our gold artifacts that were heavily influenced by Hindu-Buddhism like the golden sacred thread that is an Upanayana, the Golden Tara, the Golden Kinnari and the Golden Garuda Earings to name a few, take a look at the Laguna Copperplat Inscripition, the oldest written Philippine document, used an old Hindu Calendar and used certain Sanskrit terms. Some if not many of the old Filipino pantheons were Hindu influenced like the old Kapampangan storm god Apung Galura which is the Hindu Garuda, like Diwata deriving from Sanskit Dewata/Devata meaning minor gods, and like Bathala=Batara Guru=Shiva.
Rajah Sulayman was a Muslim "King" of the Bruneian Satellite Kingdom of Maynilad under the servitude and vassalage of the Brunei Sultanate.
Animism has been in the Philippines since time immemorial, Hinduism and Buddhism since as early as the 900s while Islam only reached the Islands in the 1300s.
The Rajahs Magellan met were never Muslims but were rather Hindu-Buddhist rulers.
Pre-colonial Philippines was never mainly comprised of Islamic Nations and peoples.
Majority of the Christian population was in Asia. The Rashidun Caliphate controlled 65% of world's Christian population and had a population that was only 2% Muslim; the Christians maintained their majority for several centuries. The Christian population began a SLOW decline, but there were catalyst events. In Iraq, the rise of the Kurds dealt a killing blow to the regional Christian population as 'Assyria' became Kurdistan. In the Christian-dense Levant, the Crusades ironically had a devastating impact on the Christian population, the Eastern Christians were not "Christian enough" for the Crusaders and were massacred and targeted alongside the Muslims and Jews, those that remained and integrated with the Crusaders were expelled with the fall of the last remaining Crusader states. The most significant decline occurred in the 20th century; where the Christian population went from comprising 20-30% of the Middle East to 5% today; as the dying Ottoman Empire began shifting towards secular nationalism; saw the Christian population as a potential fifth column and hence an existential threat; they became victims of ethnic cleansing. Post-Colonial regional and national conflicts as well as famines further diminished the battered Christian population as many migrated West. Today the Middle-Eastern Christian population is primary concentrated in Egypt, Lebanon and Cyprus.
This is a more plausible claim than what was narrated in the video. In addition to the apparent genocidal ravages of the Mongolian empire under Timur
The Crusaders absolutely did not impact the Eastern Christians like you claim.
It was the conversion of the Turkic tribes to Islam that began the downfall of their communities.
They aggressively targeted Christian communities across the Middle East and Byzantium and it is precisely these attacks that literally birthed the concept of the Crusades itself in Europe.
But the final nail in the coffin came with the Mongols, who at first were on good terms with the Christians but once they converted to Islam, became like the Turks previously, a major thorn in the Christian communities.
Timur pretty much put an end to most of the ancient Christian communities and greatly reduced the Armenian and Georgian Christian presence in the Levant and various centers of what once the areas of the Islamic Golden Age.
@@GZamzung??? What the video stated was factual and logical, what are you on about? The gentleman simply mentioned the reasons behind the decline of Christianity in the Middle East
@@savioblanc you're seriously defending the crusaders? The same people behind god knows how many genocides committed against Christians? That's sad to see
@williamrobert9898 away from the logic, why the claims of this video cant be taken seriously is because it failed to recognize/acknowledge the Mongolian imperialist impact on traditional Christian communities of the Near East. The Mongolians massacred close to 75% of the Assyrian populace which were overwhelming Christian. Up until the 13th Century, Christianity was the majority religion of the peoples of the Near East and the Assyrians were the major missionaries. Places like Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Western China had strong Christian imprints before they were wiped off by the Mongolians. Now imagine if these never happened. Of course, Buddhism and Hinduism would still hold their significance in the Indian Subcontinent far East, but then, Christianity would also be a significant force to be reckoned with. Not also forgetting the Ottoman genocide of Assyrian, Greek, Armenians and Syriacs. In all, the video projected Christianity in Asia as Western missionary initiative and conveniently ignoring Asian efforts which sadly we can't see today because of the Timurid led massacres.
In South Asia, our ancestors were forced into conversion by the Catholic, Anglican and Protestant missionaries.
Nah, they shifted their faith due to inhumane treatment they received at the hands of majority.
@@magatism Proof ?
@@arjyachatterjee6874 Of what, i cannot see my comment.
@@arjyachatterjee6874 Depends on the region. Heard of the Goan Inquisition?
@@apoorvbhatnagar9774 I know. I was asking that to the other guy who was peddling some non-sense and I don't like Christianity.
I was a Christian I read a book (Secrets of sanatan dharma) by Sai Prasad panda that changed my life forever
Theres another simple reason. In Asia, it was mostly the merchants of Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and India that first took up Islam as it was favorable to them to understand and communicate with the Arab traders. In India, ofc there was conquest of islamic empires that drove fast the religion. I can totally understand how Japanese once had a good christian population, it was right before the Tokugawa shogunate times, when Japan was trading with European powers and exchanging ideas. But as soon as Japan adopted closed country policy we'd see Christian persecution there, as government would have thought this as a western unwanted influence back then. Same with Tang chinese who adopted Manichaenism, Christianity to trade with Iranian empires and Byzantine empires. I can even site examples of some turkic empires like the Bulgars and Khazars who adopted Judaism to make trading easy. It just tells me that to humanity, money has always been its main religion and everything else is a garb covering it. Ofcourse there are a passionate few. But I'd still argue its the peace they find that they love and not Jesus himself.
agreed, the vikings and the rus did so to have better trade relations, even the slavs and bulgarians, even hungary and so on
Islam actually spread to Indonesia through violence. Most people don't know about it.
Make sense. Even today many Japan(and many other countries) adopting 'western things' more or less for business, trading and technology.
You forgot to mention Xu Guangqi, also known as Paul Xu, late Ming official who converted to Christianity and served high position in imperial court. He translated Euclid’s Elements as well.
Is that the guy who started a civil war and claimed he was jesus reincarnated ? Or is that another guy
@@DoN-xh3pdI think your talking about Hong Xiuquan who started the Taiping rebellion
@@StephaneTheard yep that’s the guy
Video itself says that chistianity spread through conquest and colonisation... Christianity and islam are two factors behind extinction of major human culture across world. With that we lost a whole new knowledge system and alternative world view. We all must resist its further spread and try to rejuvenate local religions..
There's a concept called survival of the fittest, maybe you suck. Cheistianity is still the largest religion.
@@magatism Then your religion is not a religion of love rather than a cult whipping for conversions. 🤡
@@arjyachatterjee6874
Also, central asians and other turkic tribes were not forced to become muslims, their rulers just accepted it and converted their own people, the only countries where arabs did spread islam by themselves are the countries that speak arabic today, except the persian countries who retain their language and spain (if you wanna count it)
Thus, comparing islam to christianity, which wiped out both americas' indigenous population as well as australia, is not accurate
Glad that Asia retained its eastern philosophy/religions. World would be less beautiful if entire world followed Abrahamic religions.
Those who proclaim the death of religion seem as comical to me as those who announced that the locomotives would kill poetry
True, the only real way to destroy a religion would be through conversion......Or, a more Violent approach, which is not welcome in our modern world for good reason. This is why Islam has stopped growing as an example. Had the Western Powers not become so powerful Islamic Empires would've continued their conquests.
Religion as the human need for metaphysical transcendent values will never die. But traditional religion may die and assume newer forms, mainly political forms, as the leftist woke religion in western societies
@@Joao-id4dnIslam will be dominant religion in west in the days coming to!
90% of Christian and Islam conversion was by force. But India, China, Japan were established civilizations that could fight invaders. If India wasn’t so divided at the time, Islam would be also a very small portion of it. Almost same for Iran. The Persians also resisted it for a good time until weak leadership and civil conflicts weakened the empire.
in india, missionaries comes to home with jesus with muliple hands and wearing swastika, lotus and om symbols and give money to convert poor people. this conversion can only last till money last. they give 1 bag of rice to poor people and and do cringe superstitious rituals in front of poor people like treating some disease. missionaries have become joke now
@@tyronic3497cared enough to comment apparently 😂
Men were killed, women were raped, libraries were burnt, temples and other centres of learning destroyed. A tax on not being a Muslim.
But Islam is a religion of peace.
@@tyronic3497 I learnt more from his single comment than I ever did reading your Quran. I hope he leaves 50 comments so that people can learn about the forced conversion of Persia
It’s not as simple. The largest Muslim nation today - Indonesia - did not become Muslim through conquest. It was a gradual process of the natives willingly converting through centuries. It was introduced by traders. A similar process happened in China, and Phillipines.
Another argument would be that most east-Asians could not understand Christianity's exclusivism, meaning to just exclusively follow one God/one Faith and none other, like Chirstianity demands. Most East Asian countries like China and Japan have a mixture of different religions and philosophies that are mutually acceptable, like Confucianism/Daoism/Buddhism in China or Shinto/Zen Buddhism in Japan.
不，因为我们的教义和基督教完全相反，我们不相信任何神灵。
The Christian doctrine of sin and repentance doesn’t fit with Asian cultures based around karma. Even today many East Asians find the idea that you could have all your sins forgiven by simply following someone’s teachings, rather than make actual amends and physically right your wrong extremely unjust and ridiculous.
Lots of todays Christians have their ancestors forced to be Christian , i.e. South America , Moorish Spain . etc.
Because those idiots practiced human sacrifice and other evil things.
not true
Spain just retake their land from occupiers
@@holyleague8286 So if native Americans forced European and African American on their religion , is this acceptable ? Muslims (Arabs , Berbers , even Spanish) , Jews , and Christians where living together , once Christianity got controlled , they start killing , torturing them (The Reconquista)
On the other hand Muslims were in control of many many area where there are Jews , Christians .. etc , they never forced them to be Muslims
Also brits, french, Germans etc.
Interesting video.
Christianity striped our ancestors of the Germanic tribes of their Gods. Wuotan, our All-father, still watches and guides us.
With that said, I come from a very long line of southern German Catholics but for a much longer period of time, our ancestors found comfort in the true Gods.
There was a lot more stability and tolerance in Eastern society. Despite changing political borders, the social structure of much of Asia was pretty set by the time of Christianity. China and India especially had had hundreds of years of tradition and social stability.
The reason a religion like Christianity appealed to people in the West was because of the instability and intolerance. There was much more persecution of minorities in the West; it was very assimilationist, whereas the East was generally tolerant of different communities. The sort of ethnic cleansing you see in Western history (such as Emperor Hadrian’s genocide of the Jews) rarely occurred in the East. So people joined Christianity as it gave hope to minorities and provided a social structure. Christianity’s whole idea of “it doesn’t matter where you come from as long as you worship God” appealed strongly to persecuted minorities. But this wasn’t a new idea in the East; they were already tolerant, and there was already a strong social structure (family units, Dharma (everyone having a role), etc.)
This is only Early Christianity though (up to Constantine’s conversion). Once it became the religion of the state, it unfortunately became a system to oppress minorities in itself. They persecuted non-Christians in the same way Christians had been being persecuted and in my opinion since then it has been a tool of oppression. The assimilationism of the West continued despite adopting Christianity.
Christianity came through sword and still the native religions of India tolerate the Christians living today in the country. Some people never change. But then the concept of live and let live is opposed to Christianity and Islam.
Because of Hinduism and Buddhism,confusciousnism they talked about peace not wars in the name of religion😂
@sakshigupta8603 Protestant & Catholic are colonial ambition, nothing to do with Orthodox Christianity
Looking at Eurasia as a whole, with it's diverse religions, i raise the question "why did Christianity spread to so easily to the west" more so than " why it didn't as much hto the east". I think it has to do with how Christianity spread through the roman empire, giving early evengalists a framework to adapt western branches of Indo-European religions and mythology, building from the tradition thes roman's had on dealing with diverse cultures and faiths. And yeah, Having home advantage in a massive untied political entity that is somewhat tolerant and very diverse to the west instead the east also helps. Especially considering the geopolitical dimension; Leaders of the Franks, Kievan Rus, Danes and many more carefully choose to adopt Christianity. for To the east, before the rise of Islam ca 500 years after christ and them blocking access, so to say, it was the highly organised religion of the Zoroastrianism in the Parhian and Sasanian Empires. In general more resistant to missionaries or conversion for political reasons (see vikings and kievan Rus) than their European cousins, the Iranians had to be conquered by the Muslims to be convertered
Edit: before heading into the conversation in the comments: when talking about Indo-European, there are two distinct I.E. things to talk about: genetic human populations and the culture. Although often intertwined, these are two seperate things. In my comment here, I mean the cultural aspect, such as pantheon, deities and origin myths etc. Since language is an inherently necessary to form culture, and is shape by culture, I tend to talk about culture groups in those terms.
In the wider vicinity of the 'Holy Land' are a handful of large groups besides the Indo-European family, there's the Adroasiatics (like Berbers, Egyptian and Semitic), the Altaic (or "Turkic", of which "Turks" are arguably the least Turkic group) and a bit further Finno-Urgic to the north, Dravidian to the east (directly connected through roman trade over sea), and the Antlantic-Congo (incl. the Buntu) to the south/south-west
Also, there were aspects of Christianity which resembled the traditional religions.
İranians cousins of europeans?
@@baruchdeger9534 yes since they are indo european and the persian language is related to most european languages (indo european languages). Today kurds also belong to the indo europeans. Turks are turkic and arabs and jews are semetic
But ı think Indians non cousin of europeans becauce their genetics diffrence
@baruchdeger9534 yes Indians are definitely genetically different than Europeans. Today, a Turk or even an Arab has more European dna than an average Indian eventhow historicaly they have different origins( turks from Central Asia and Arabs from the Semitic peoples in Arabia and Levant) There were just more contact through the Reconquista in Spain, the Christian crussades or all the Balkan Muslims going to Turkey and other neighboring countries after the ottoman empire. India is very secluded
You should've talked about St Thomas Christians of Kerala , India one of the oldest Christian community in the world .
He completely glossed over it. Ignorance about Christianity in India is oretty common
Why? Who cares
@@darkjudge8786 me and many other people
I was a little disappointed that the St Thomas Christians were glossed over, especially since they probably have a longer history than the Eastern nestorians, and unlike the latter, are still active till this day.
@@teejayman215 Ignorance about India as a whole is very common.
In East Asia, people don't like monotheistic religions. It is more common to go to a Taoist temple to worship today, a Buddhist temple tomorrow, or any temple of unknown religion as long as I feel that this god may protect me and bring me peace. good luck.
A religion that makes people believe in one God will not be popular.
So many ancient cultures lost because of christianity. Sad!
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@@athinghere Inquisitions and conversions,...from the Aztec and Mayans in Latin America, to Hawaii, Micronesia and the Philippines. Local traditions, ancient religions and cultures have all been replaced with Christianity. In Europe, Celtic culture, for example.
@@elC1d774 yes very sad
@@elC1d774 certain aspects of aztec and mayan culture will not be missed...
@@elC1d774 Cultures like sacrificing babies. How sad.
IMO, Asia was well educated. While the Europeans were still in the dark ages
Yeah these europeans
Because it flourished in Europe thanks to the Roman Empire, and eventually it propagated throughout northern and eastern europe thanks to the proximity of the catholic church and the missionaries. While in Asia, despite being older in asia than in europe, no important empire adopted christianity as it's official religion, aside from the greater Armenia. And since there was no strong Christian nation in Asia, there weren't much missionaries there to spread Christianity.
"there weren't much missionaries there to spread Christianity" Okay, this part is wrong. There were Christian missionaries but spread by the church not the state (Even in Eastern Rome and the West, missionaries were sent by the church not the state but there was at least some ultimate state backing), Christians even translated more of their texts into Chinese earlier than the Buddhists. (Getting this from the lost history of Christianity book).
@@ikengaspirit3063 I didn't say there weren't missionaries. In fact, Christianity reached the Indian subcontinent and even China during this early Christianity period
In Japan , basically Christianity is somewhat viewed with rather romanticized and exotified gaze as something exotic western art aesthetic commodity rather than necessarily from religious symbolism , thats why famous street fashion in Japan adopting Christianity iconography simply for aesthetic purpose rather than for its meaning
So Christianity is seen as something superficial over there for the most part (theres a very small believer population) because their Shinto faith is too integrated and iconic of their people, more so than any other religion. Making Christianity the main faith would be akin to betraying the nation
Excellent video. How about another exploring when, how and how far east Asian religions and philosophies like Buddhism spread to the Western world?
Failure of Christianity in Asia is due to the lack of appeal, clarity (due to speaking in tongues), logic, common sense, and the absence of continuity and self supporting statements. This could have been due to invisible plagiarism of ideas from other religions of the East, particularly from Hinduism without knowing what they were "lifting"!
Angra Mainyu
May God grant health, strong faith, happiness, patience and success in everything to Christians living in non-Christian countries ❤️✝️🇻🇦☦️✝️⛪💒🗺️✨🕊️
k then
Amen. ✝️
I expected mention to be made that the new testament was first written in Koine Greek.
Byzantine Christians had been mistreating Assyrian Christians, including using them as fodder vs the Persians in what became Iran, who were influential on Mohammed. When Islam emerged, the number ofcenters of Christianity in the west went from 9 to 2, Rome and Constantinople or Ankora, who did not speak the same language and were not nearby each other. This, plus Christianity having become the official religion of Rome in the 300s c.e. changed Christianity in ways that made it harder to adapt to the East...
Asian countries had well established religions even before the birth of Jesus. Plus, they are highly philosophical religions like Buddhism. Usually, it is their belief that the greater the philosophical core of a religion, the greater its importance. So, religions with less philosophy has a less chance. For an example Sri Lankans practice Buddhism for nearly 2300 years. Buddhism has well rooted into the culture there, even Catholics cannot oppose it. Buddhism is the national identity of Sinhalese, the majority ethinic group. Even under heavy persecutions of invaders , Buddhism has survived upto this day as the main religion of the country.
Whole culture and religion of Asia is impacted by india and China alone Buddhism and hi duism😊
@@Vayu_Aksh not china india and sri lanka
If Constantine didn’t adopt it, it could be a very different story in the West.
Very true!
But he did since his mother used Jesus cross to ressurect a dude and this is how he knew that Christianity was legit
Soon after the fall of Rome, the West came to be ruled by Pagans(Angles, Franks) and Unitarian Monotheists(Spain, Italy, Africa) and before that, Christianity was the official religion for less than a century, during a time of crisis.
For comparison, Buddhism was the state religion of India for 2 centuries under the Mauryas, even through a period of golden age but that after the Mauryas vanished, Buddhism was slowly undone by Hinduism.
@@alechboy3578 It was a beautiful and well-known story but it was not necessarily true. Helena could recognize the cross of Jesus by simply reading the tablet on that cross.
Not exactly. In practice, the difference between Indian Mahatana Buddhism and the Bhakti Vaishnavism which replaced it was so little that there was no mass conversion or anything of the sort. The main thing which changed was the big Buddhist monasteries/Universities which created the educated Buddhist priest class which maintained the "Buddhist" Identity were destroyed by the Delhi Sultanate in their conquest of Bengal
It didn't succeed in Asia because the people of Asia knew a bad deal when they saw one.
I am Filipino with Catholic upbringing but I am an Atheist Buddhist/Daoist.
I believe Buddhism and Far Eastern beliefs system are so highly superior in terms of human mindset and humane values that is why a person with those beliefs could hardly be converted to Abrahamic Religions which is only marketable to people with lesser civilized system and mindset.
In other words, the FAR EAST is the Best Region on Earth. Buddhism and FarEastern Belief system would led humanity to Atheism and Practical belief system.
“Atheist Buddhist” Why? I left Christianity & all religions, but I'm not an atheist.
Wow, a racist and chauvinistic Buddhist. I've seen it all now guys.
Christian countries are more humane though 😁
@@zackgalante4899
Clearly because you wanna make your own Cult.
@@asmrjackunboxinggames4328 “my own cult” I'm not the one that believes we/humans evolved from flying bacteria to a fish, to a rat, to a monkey & finally a human. Btw evolution is garbage, debate me and I Will debunk it buddy our DNA was created by a higher source of intelligence and that was God 🔥🤛🏿 im not a religious person, but u or any scientists cannot debunk a creator. Now have a good day
People Have Misconception Of That Hinduism Divide People In Cast but The Realty Is Caste Is a Word From Portuguese And there Is Not Even A Single Book Which Defines Class Which Is Upper and which is not only profession existed in India Before British
•1 Brahman who study About Universe(Brahamand) Thats Also The Reason Why Not a single religion other than Hinduism Who Gives Accurate Knowledge about modern Solar system and Multiverser theory and also Modern day atomic theory Which is First Discovered by maharishi kannad 2500 years Befor Dalton
•2 Chatriya who fights and protect and rules the kingdoms
•3 dalit who do the servent jobs
Last one i forgot
History is manipulatted by Britishers like Alexander Coqured Some Part of India But That's Really Not The Case His Army chif have To Give Here Daughter Helena To Chandragupta To Ensure Peace Deal between Greece And maruya kingdom😂
Yah we are proud of being Hindu/sanatan
Funny how you forgot to mention how strongly did missioners support western colonisation.
No wonder that the Japanese took serious action against them and the Chinese understood this need as well
1:33 St. Thomas is believed to have arrived in the southernmost part of India, not the central part which is shown on the map.
A false story without any proof
@@ptsd888no it's false like Aryan invasion
Western propaganda
@@ptsd888fake fake today mallu Christian are converted for one rice bag 😂😂
@@biharigamer4369 Nope prominent Christians Churches in Kerala doesn't believe in convertion.
Those are done mostly by protestants.
You have to be born into Christians family to be one
Or register with the church
@@tomorrow. they are literally converted lol no feelings for Hinduism. Rice bag op
This is a really good topic. Another thing I'm curious about is why Islam didn't make more of an imprint in Japan and Korea given they were so close to Indonesia and Malaysia
Japan and Korea are much further away from Malaysia and Indonesia in comparison to Southern China.
So, labelling them 'so close' doesn't make sense.
Japan and Korea were never close to Indonesia and Malaysia. What makes you think they were?
because of civils wars in medle easte
Just because they are in the same continent doesn't mean they are close😂
there are rarely any japan and korea traders in souteast asia. they dont interact that much.
Who said Christianity failed? Slavery - abolished, Human sacrifices - ended, equal rights for all, because every person is created in the image of God. I think Christianity has succeeded majestically. Thank God for Christianity. Yes there are a lot of problems remaining to be solved, but since I am a Christian I have hope. Just because every country on earth and every person on earth is not Christian doesn't mean that they are not enjoying the benefits of Christianity.
The reason why
Christianity failed in
Asia is because the theology is weak. It is no match to the Wisdom of Buddhism.
In a famous debate that took place in Panadura (Coastel town in South West Sri Lanka) in 1873 ( also called the Panadura Vadaya in the Sinhala language)
the Christian emissaries lost the debate to the Sinhala Buddhist monks, who
excelled in scoring debating points one after the other. The Buddhist triumph was such that the news reached pioneers of the Theosophical Society namely Madame Helena Blavatsky and Colonel Henry Steele Olcott in New York. They visited Ceylon in May 1880, embraced Buddhism and engaged in the Revival of Buddhism.
Anagarika Dharmapala, the icon of Buddhist Resistance to colonialism joined them.
With Churches closing down in their hundreds in Christian Europe and Atheism growing exponentially to replace Christianity the future of Christianity world wide is indeed bleak. Buddhism is is a philosophy without a belief in God. It suits the modern era.
imagine some white people landed in your shore and said
"Ay yo! your god is white, YOU are not white, WE are white, but YOUR god is white."
:D?
@@uguroz3745 oy vey!! your god is white
you are jealous of white people because you see us as your superiors
They never once said that….
30% of Koreans are Christian of some variety, but it's something like 80 or 90% of Korean Americans for some odd reason.
Because American Christians refuse to leave non Christians alone
@@Makarosc Well, it's part of the deal. Not sure what you want them to do.
@@ikengaspirit3063this is not freedom of religion
@@twofortydrifter uh respect other people's decisions and not send them bomb threats?
@@ikengaspirit3063 fastest growing religion in the us: non religious
Proud Catholic Christian Philippines 🇵🇭❤️🇪🇦✝️⛪🙏
Because Eastern Philosophy is far more advance than the western Philosophy. Why Islam in Nusantara more accepted because they use local instrument to propagate their religion and lastly the radical one using coup as their instrument to make sultanate in Indonesia Archipelago because using a king as instrument is more effective. So in my conclusion Western Religion is really destructive for us
Yeah that's why a lot of Western people now turn towards Eastern philosophy and practice meditation, yoga, minfulness and things like that. In many Western schools, they now make kids do mindfulness before they start the school day as it calms the mind.
The Portuguese managed to convert Indians in Goa to Christianity at the pain of death.
I am taiwanese. And I think your data is a bit strange. In my search online, Christians in Taiwan account for 7%, or 1.65 million people, and Christians in mainland China account for 2.5%, or 35 million people. A little higher than mentioned in the video. Compared to Islam, Christianity is much more accepted in East Asian cultural circles.
I think we forgot to mention a very important factor that is language. religions need a medium to travel through and translating was not a big thing back then especially among the "commoner". the middle east back then was under the influence of the Hellenic culture and language. many areas that converted to Christianity in its infancy were within the roman empire's hellenic or latin sphere of culture.
Please also make a video of Islam and Christianity failed in india even after more than 400 million Hindus got slaughtered and others got tortured so badly during Mughal rule and more than 160 million during British rule and still Hinduism is alive as 3rd largest religion of the world ❤
Also thank you Japan to make Hinduism alive there with the name of shintoism ⛩️❤
British came to conquer not convert read history they obviously did have missionaries entering but they never made it the reason for thier arrival in in India they came for spice and slave and cheap work from the indians they stole the Mughals on the other hand forced it thier whole conversation thier main reason for conquering a land was to convert it
@@immanuel90 We are talking about Portuguese, not Britishers. Those beasts were more brutal than even Islamic invaders.