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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • St. Thomas the Apostle is believed to have travelled to Kerala and set the foundation of Christianity in India after the death of Jesus Christ. Is this a true story or only a tradition? This video explores the fascinating story of St. Thomas, the beginning of Christianity in India and attempts to distinguish facts from fiction.
    The video based on the book QUEST FOR THE HISTORICAL THOMAS APOSTLE OF INDIA, a Re-reading of the Evidence. By Fr. George Nedungatt SJ tries to analyse all the theories surrounding the tradition of St. Thomas. Beginning from the meaning of the term 'India', we look at the apocryphal work 'Acts of Thomas' and the writings of Church Fathers. Other popular theories include that of St. Bartholomew and Thomas of Kinayi. We then consider the rich and diverse Indian Tradition which includes the tradition centring around Taxila and then proceeds to look at the South Indian traditon revolving around the tomb at Mylapore and the miracles and works of St. Thomas.
    Special Thanks to:
    Centre for Ignatian Spirituality and Research, DNC, Pune
    Sean Cardozo SJ (Goa)
    Manu Mathew RCJ
    Francis Paracka SJ (Kerala)
    Sunil Gaikwad SJ (Pune)
    For any questions do feel free to write in:
    Email - ajesuitadventure@gmail.com
    Source : QUEST FOR THE HISTORICAL THOMAS APOSTLE OF INDIA, a Re-reading of the Evidence. By Fr. George Nedungatt SJ
    0:00 Introduction - St. Thomas the Apostle in India
    1:06 Two schools of thought
    2:02 Major Theories
    2:05 Theory 1 - India
    2:35 Theory 2 - Acts of Thomas
    3:12 Theory 3 - Edessa
    3:37 Theory 4 - Fathers of the Church
    4:28 Theory 5 - St. Bartholomew
    5:16 Theory 6 - Thomas of Kinayi
    6:50 North-West Indian Tradition
    8:00 Oral Tradition - South Indian Tradition
    9:05 The Tomb at Mylapore - South Indian Tradition
    11:04 Miracle at Palayur - South Indian Tradition
    11:49 Seven Churches - South Indian Tradition
    12:47 Thomas Christians - South Indian Tradition
    13:44 Indian Tradition - Syro Malabar Rite, St Thomas Cross, Jews in Malabar
    14:29 Conclusion
    #stthomas #stthomasmount #stthomassongs

Комментарии • 470

  • @AJesuitAdventure
    @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад +36

    Did St. Thomas come to India? What is your faith conviction?

    • @Th3Sh3DyGr3Y
      @Th3Sh3DyGr3Y Год назад +4

      Excellent video for validating faith to belief .Brings people of our faith closer

    • @dreamias1008
      @dreamias1008 Год назад +4

      There are Nambiar bhramins on that time how can they kill Thomas?

    • @mathewalex7824
      @mathewalex7824 Год назад +2

      He did came.

    • @Nivi.K
      @Nivi.K 11 месяцев назад

      The Portuguese burnt plenty of literature of Syrian Christians in the 16th century and tried their best to destroy the faithful in Kerala by manipulation and force which continues till today by the Vatican in Rome. I felt that this was another attempt by an outsider of Kerala to again confuse and destroy the faith of St. Thomas Apostle's arrival in India which is surprising because the Jews were in Kerala after the destruction of Solomons temple and Apostle Thomas first evangelised those Jews who settled here some 1000 years ago before the arrival of Thomas. Its sad to see such videos which try to twist the truth by saying Ethiopia was India because Kerala had trade relations with Middle East for thousands of years before Thomas came so India was known to him and others.

    • @ichoosethejesusway
      @ichoosethejesusway 10 месяцев назад +2

      Which Christian faith was present in Kerala prior to arrival of Portuguese in Kerala?

  • @Dragon_Ball_Z70
    @Dragon_Ball_Z70 10 месяцев назад +71

    I’m a St. Thomas Christian, whose ancestors migrated from Nilackel, Kerala to Kadampnaad, Kollam, Kerala and consecrated the St. Thomas church in Kadampnaad in AD 325. This ancient church still follows the Indian Syrian Christian traditions of St. Thomas and I’m a proud member of that church and it’s traditions 😊😊

    • @suniljoseph5888
      @suniljoseph5888 10 месяцев назад +1

      So traditions say so to proof

    • @chanbemolotha9419
      @chanbemolotha9419 10 месяцев назад +2

      The presenter is twisting the fact.We believe that St.Thomas really came to India to preach and to give witness about Our Lord.He is speaking as if he the master.

    • @sebinprasad
      @sebinprasad 10 месяцев назад

      Aha Kollallo...I'm a St.Thomas Christian from Kallada...near Kadampanad

    • @spreadthewordout
      @spreadthewordout 5 месяцев назад

      Seven Churches established by St. Thomas in Kerala India
      ruclips.net/video/9sQ_oee7EHc/видео.htmlsi

    • @rilanstar2150
      @rilanstar2150 5 месяцев назад

      I want to visit your church.

  • @sprob79
    @sprob79 10 месяцев назад +53

    Dear sir, it doesn't matter whether he came or not, christ and his apostles reach out to everyone who want to be uplifted in consciousness, and so do all masters. 🙏

  • @georgeprothasis
    @georgeprothasis 10 месяцев назад +13

    I am a St. Thomas Christian from Kothanalloor, Kottayam. I have no doubt about the fact that St. Thomas came to India and Malabar. There are many ancient churches around my home including Marth Marium Church - Kuraviland of 2nd Century, Old Kaduthuruthy Church of 4th Century, Muttuchira Holy Ghost Church of 5th Century and my parish - the Kothanallor Church of 8th Century. There are enough stories about each churches that transferred through generations which provides proof about our rich heritage and history.

  • @mathewphilip6123
    @mathewphilip6123 10 месяцев назад +32

    St Thomas baptized five families in kerala. Kalli, kalliyangal, kaali, Shangarapuri n Pakalomattom, we can see these families still in the different parts of Kerala. Myself I am from pakalomattom family with a large number of Bishop's, priests, pastors and nuns are in the service of Jesus Christ.

    • @supersmart671
      @supersmart671 10 месяцев назад +2

      Even my family claims but I have my doubts

    • @sus_6537
      @sus_6537 10 месяцев назад +1

      Why cannot do a DNA ancestory test of these members ?

    • @veluthedath
      @veluthedath 10 месяцев назад +6

      self-attested certificates are not accepted in the matters of a credible history...probably, you can prove it with a DNA test😂

    • @dorerlabs9103
      @dorerlabs9103 10 месяцев назад +1

      You mean Christians have different DNA. Not sure what you achieve with DNA test. Often traditions are powerful sources.

    • @newmapper5939
      @newmapper5939 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@sus_6537we don't need to the first churches were converted temples and you know low castes weren't even allowed near a temple till the temple entry proclamation in the 1930s that's proves our brahmin - Nair ancestry

  • @BhanuPrakash-rv5fg
    @BhanuPrakash-rv5fg 11 месяцев назад +27

    Thanks for your excellent analysis of St.Thomas coming to India. What matters is Christ the king. Thanks.

  • @LPNirmalNathan
    @LPNirmalNathan 10 месяцев назад +15

    My house in St. Thomas Mount is just about 50 feet away from the place there is monument on the steps up the St. Thomas Mount to mark his place where he was speared. The Portugese in their religious fervour did build several churches to mark as place of miracle or sanctity. Hence, these monuments need not necessarily authenticate the history. However, the presence of large number of Indian Christians owing their faith to the evangelization ministry of Thomas the Apostle, definitely lends credence to the theory of Thomas having ministered in Kerala and Tamil Nadu, especially.

  • @rabayasekara5278
    @rabayasekara5278 10 месяцев назад +26

    Dear Father, Thanks for sharing an excellent video.
    In ancient Anuradhapura (SriLanka), a cross was found carved on a rock. Dated, I believe to be around 4th century, it's the same design as the Syrio-Malabar Cross in your video. Today it's part of the Catholic flag of Sri Lanka. Like St Joseph Vaz, in ancient times Christianity came to our island through India. God bless

  • @josephvalyakalavil595
    @josephvalyakalavil595 Год назад +16

    Whether Thomas came to Kerala or not can be debated. But Syrian Christians use Syriac in their liturgy. Thus there was an early connection between Kerala n Syria in the first 5 centuries. Predating European Christianity.

  • @Christian_Paul_nz
    @Christian_Paul_nz Год назад +57

    Thank you for this presentation. You mentioned "Nasrani" but did not elaborate on that other than saying that it was a term used by Arab Muslims, which is correct. In fact, Nasrani comes from the Koranic-Arabic word Nasara (نَصَـٰرَىٰ ) which means "Christian" in the Koran. Arabic-speaking Christians refer to themselves as "Masihi" (مسيحي), which means "Messiah-follower". "Nasara" comes from the name of the hometown of Jesus Christ, Nazareth, which in Hebrew is נָצְרַת (Natsrat) and in Arabic is ناصرة (Nāṣira). Nasrani, therefore, means "Nazarene".

    • @AJesuitAdventure
      @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад +7

      Thank you for your inputs.

    • @joseph_augustine
      @joseph_augustine Год назад +10

      Nasrani means followers of Jesus. Jesus of Nazareth.

    • @deepthipv4689
      @deepthipv4689 Год назад +42

      Nasrani is an Aramaic word, not Arabic word. Quran came almost 600 years after Christianity.
      When St.Thomas came to India, at 52 AD, there were no term as Christian. The word Nasrani was used to call the followers of the
      Jesus of Nazareth, so the Thomas Christians(who accepted faith through St.Thomas)are called as Nasranies till now. It has nothing to do with Quran and Arabic language .
      The term Nasrani existed before Quran itself and so keeping it as reference is not right, for me..

    • @charananekibalijaun8837
      @charananekibalijaun8837 11 месяцев назад +4

      "Natsrat"? Even today that place is called "Nazaret" in Hebrew

    • @SanjayFGeorge
      @SanjayFGeorge 11 месяцев назад +6

      Christians all over the world used to be called Nasrani by others before the term was coined in Antioch. But the Arabs continued to call them that. This may be why Christians in Malaysia are called Srani. This is why ISIS agents marked the houses of Assyrian and Chaldean Christians with the Arab letter "Noon" just before an invasion.
      ---+---
      The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11 after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says that "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26).

  • @anandreddy9465
    @anandreddy9465 Год назад +42

    It is my belief that st. Thomas came to India for sure. Often tradition is a powerful source of history

    • @mounish6074
      @mounish6074 10 месяцев назад +6

      Then Ramayana should also be true as Often tradition is a powerful source of history.

  • @deepaksebastian8688
    @deepaksebastian8688 Год назад +64

    We never see visible proof of St Thomas visit to India due to he came to India 2000 years ago not to built or not to write any book. Thomas came to India to spread Gospels to Indians. Thomas bring many Jews, upper and lower caste Hindus in Kerala to God path. Now we all proudly say we believed in one true God. PPL who don't believe in this we can ignore them. There are lots of fool ppl questions even existence of Jesus Christ. Let we continue the evangelisation st. Thomas started in India.

    • @kkverma4078
      @kkverma4078 10 месяцев назад +5

      Its more because Portuguese who invaded Kerala destroyed lots of manuscripts of St Thomas' Christians who according to Portuguese were not Christians but pagans.This historical error by Portuguese were accepted and they sought forgiveness.

    • @AnjaliD-nb7cr
      @AnjaliD-nb7cr 9 месяцев назад +2

      First bring upper and lower cast Christians together , catolics and protestents , because of them genocides were happened in the past.

    • @Rose-Jackie
      @Rose-Jackie 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AnjaliD-nb7cr The main reason for that is Portuguese. They brutally harassed these syrian Christians thats why they still fight with Latin liturgy's

  • @desakshidesakshi7800
    @desakshidesakshi7800 10 месяцев назад +4

    I am from Kerala and know few families who were earlier Brahmins and got embraced Christianity from St.Thomas.
    I strongly believe it. Because of our long coastal line approach to outside world before Christ, I as a Malayali have no problem in believing it. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🌹🌹🌹❤️

  • @agassitheron1816
    @agassitheron1816 Год назад +26

    I believe he came. good research and well presented. Appreciate your effort in bringing out such knowledge fill content...the later generation will greatly benefit from ..keep going ahead well done

    • @AJesuitAdventure
      @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад +3

      thanks so much bro....may St Thomas bless us !!!

    • @Rose-Jackie
      @Rose-Jackie 2 месяца назад

      @@AJesuitAdventure Let God bless us not St Thomas. He is our beloved Apostle, who led us to Jesus and salvation. Amen

  • @Archangel294
    @Archangel294 Год назад +12

    Very factually done. Faith is what will seal one's belief. St Thomas Bless My Country India.

  • @sandygonsalves8516
    @sandygonsalves8516 Год назад +8

    Very insightful.
    Kudos to all your efforts you took to make a study and present the topic on an interesting way!

    • @AJesuitAdventure
      @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! thanks a lot for your encouragement 😍

  • @evettedsilva8860
    @evettedsilva8860 24 дня назад

    Yes, it seems that St. Thomas came to India from the various narratives.
    Pray our Country is Blessed by St Thomas with prayers for Love Peace Unity, spiritual enlightenment filled with Happiness of India.

  • @user-qv4yg7vx9o
    @user-qv4yg7vx9o Год назад +5

    Wow ..... Really amazed by your quest for knowledge and research.... Your videos on varied topics are informative and quite enriching ..... This video was quite in depth .... Though I have visited Kerala , especially the place where st Thomas visited .... But this info added more to my knowledge. Keep it up !

  • @preetyanthony80
    @preetyanthony80 Год назад +4

    Creative and excellent work! 👍 Congratulations 👏

  • @devputh
    @devputh Год назад +5

    There is some legendrical stories which say that st Thomas came to Sri Lanka. That the name " jinthupitiya" an administrative ward of Colombo is a derivative of thommepitiya. The bishop Oswald gomis, yet living and turned 90 today has written on it. The nestoriyan crosses have also been found here.

  • @glennshrom5801
    @glennshrom5801 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you. I enjoyed seeing all the diverse evidence put together in one project, and in such a concise presentation! I think of faith as a trust, and I want to trust in what is "amen" - what is fixed, steadfast, reliable, unwavering ... "nailed" into place. These relate to a Hebrew word also for "true" or "truth" or "trustworthy". Since I can't see that any of these ideas of St. Thomas' possible work in India meets the standard that those adjectives signify, I can't say that I have any faith either way. Where my faith does lie is in the God of Israel and his anointed king Jesus of Nazareth, who do meet the standard that those adjectives signify. The Holy Trinity is trustworthy, and that is where my faith conviction rests secure. There is an interplay relationship whereby the one who trusts is trustworthy to the one deserving of trust, and the one deserving of trust is be definition trustworthy. This is our faith and loyalty relationship as Christians, and reflects the faithfulness and loyalty of Jesus the Messiah.

  • @cascarrabias397
    @cascarrabias397 Год назад +9

    Saint Thomas was in India in the year 55, in China in 69 and died in India in 72.
    Great information, makes lots of sense.

    • @Skykiran
      @Skykiran 10 месяцев назад

      FAKE Pope himself denies this false narratives in 2006

    • @Bold_Ravi
      @Bold_Ravi 7 дней назад

      He never ever visited china 😂

    • @Bold_Ravi
      @Bold_Ravi 7 дней назад

      He traveled only in 2 Indian states; Kerela & Tamilnadu

  • @mathewpanamkat2595
    @mathewpanamkat2595 Год назад

    Thanks Bro for throwing further light on the topic.

  • @donnareen3012
    @donnareen3012 Год назад +5

    Such an interestingly detailed study. Whatever the theories Faith matters more and a belief in St Thomas

    • @AJesuitAdventure
      @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад

      thanks for writing in....faith is what sustains us in life eventually 🙂

  • @amith3588
    @amith3588 10 месяцев назад +4

    I would assume that the reason that there is a dearth of archeological evidence to support the evangelization of St. Thomas in Kerala is because of the destruction of the ancient St. Thomas Christian Churches by the Portuguese in support of the Catholic Church. This is a well-documented event and I believe there is a BBC documentary on the subject. It would be apt if you could also delve on the atrocities committed in the name of the Catholic Church that subjugated an entire denomination of Christians, destroyed their traditions, their ancient libraries, were subjugated for over 150 years and from where the ancient Christians had to literally fight for their independence. Imagine over 1600 years of history and culture burnt down. Priests and leaders killed. It was nothing short of a genocide. All that remains is the oral tradition and the long lineage of those Christian families hanging onto the vestiges of that once glorious tradition. Wolves in sheep's clothing indeed. Its frankly frustrating to listen to the oppressor talking about the absence of that very proof that they destroyed. I am living proof!

  • @pannirsantiago2681
    @pannirsantiago2681 10 месяцев назад +4

    In our our hurry to find out about history and geography of Thomas, may we not forget the teaching he brought to the world i.e the message of God, the Bible, that of the NAZARENE (Jesus Christ).

  • @ambroserogers5799
    @ambroserogers5799 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks. I believe in both north india and Mylapore traditions. Jerusalem to Judea to Samaria and to the ends of the earth Jesus is Lord.

  • @thommantelokam2956
    @thommantelokam2956 11 месяцев назад

    Good presentation with Justice to historical facts. One of the best on this subject. Loved it. Congratulations ❤

  • @Leisha-by8nq
    @Leisha-by8nq Месяц назад

    It is easy to see that the Catholic faith has struggled hard in India and have a feeling will not last much longer due to religious pressures both inside and outside the Faith. We now have a Pope that may the death nail to the Catholic Church. India has a rich history of philosophy and the Hindus bore some good examples of the best in virtues, loyalties, and stowic strengths that helped in conversions to Jesus because it was already built in them, making Christanity easy to take in. India can bear great minds to the Faith and may even save it from heresy if only the hardships of Politics can ease a bit, but that is in the deepest of wells unable too find water. Thank You So Much.

  • @vincentfox4929
    @vincentfox4929 Год назад +3

    I mean, technically theres no evidence peter went to rome either........and it's the same for the majority of the apostles. Only 2 or 3 can be confirmed.

  • @sebastiann.a.641
    @sebastiann.a.641 Месяц назад +1

    A Good Description - Thanks 🙏🌷❤️

  • @swapnilborges4781
    @swapnilborges4781 Год назад +2

    We know the very nice story of st.Thomas father thank you so much

  • @rominamenezes3813
    @rominamenezes3813 Год назад +2

    Very informative,
    Lots of effort put in brother 👍

  • @damairiapakpahan5678
    @damairiapakpahan5678 11 месяцев назад +3

    I like this video, I want to go to Kerala to do the pilgrimage. Amen

  • @alvinkavukatt1225
    @alvinkavukatt1225 Год назад +2

    Well explained brother.. 😍😍🔥🔥

  • @BrianStanleyEsq
    @BrianStanleyEsq 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love the Miracle of Thomas the story of which you relate. It was so philosophical yet physical, proving nothing and everything. The Brahmins should have been flattered that it was given to them -- but it was a sword, dividing those able to accept it as an affirmance of One God from those to proud to accept the nullification of their traditions.

  • @shilpamerinthomas6768
    @shilpamerinthomas6768 9 месяцев назад +1

    Today I see a video... One of the Jewish man went back to israel from Kerala .. He is telling from his memory about St Thomas that he came to Kerala that time in Kochi all Jewish people received as him they think he is a rabbi But after that he start converting so many jews people from kochi to Christianity and become they are become his discipline also... ..they are start living in malabar region and followers of St Thomas.

  • @santhoshabraham4823
    @santhoshabraham4823 10 месяцев назад

    A good analysis- I like how various angles are explored.

  • @pigmanoel
    @pigmanoel Год назад +3

    I have a considerable respect regardin oral traditions. Indeed the hole Biblia, old and new Testament, before be writted come from oral traditions. It remained oraly preserved during centuries without lose his contents and fidelity. In ancient times, when there wasn´t any writing, folks preserved historical facts oraly. They knew how to do that well. .

  • @patriciaprawin6068
    @patriciaprawin6068 Год назад +1

    Lots of research and hard work 😊. Was new info to me.

  • @lukecuxton1514
    @lukecuxton1514 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the wonderful explanation, it takes me back to my Indian Church History class in Seminary, I believe it's tradition and as you said it's one's faith.

  • @johnkv5668
    @johnkv5668 Год назад

    Very well done, dear Sumit! Congratulations!

  • @sjkoroth2018
    @sjkoroth2018 10 месяцев назад

    I can understand you worked hard to collect this information, appreciation.for your efforts.🤔

  • @ArabianCrusader
    @ArabianCrusader 10 месяцев назад

    Loved it....❤️

  • @johnmbongenizondi9912
    @johnmbongenizondi9912 19 дней назад

    That was a great presentation!

  • @anthonyteron9144
    @anthonyteron9144 Год назад +1

    Well done bro keep going 👍👍

  • @denkenunddanken5961
    @denkenunddanken5961 Год назад +1

    Great work sir...🙏🙏🙏

  • @kaitandlima4608
    @kaitandlima4608 Год назад +23

    Nice video bro. I do believe that he came to India. However, even if he didn't, that doesn't matter. Faith is important 🙏

    • @AJesuitAdventure
      @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад +2

      thats indeed an excellent insight Kaitan..God Bless!!!

    • @kaitandlima4608
      @kaitandlima4608 Год назад +2

      @@AJesuitAdventure yes bro, we live by faith not by the proofs even though there are substantial proofs (for those who need).

  • @minithomas3407
    @minithomas3407 Год назад

    Very informative. Congratulations

  • @apeters247
    @apeters247 Год назад

    Lovely presentation with excellent attention to detail

  • @danielsyiemlieh1437
    @danielsyiemlieh1437 Год назад

    Very informative work

  • @daisymathew4707
    @daisymathew4707 10 месяцев назад +5

    With all the existing traditions , I strongly believe that St Thomas was in India. Thank you for sharing the info.

  • @swapnilborges4781
    @swapnilborges4781 Год назад

    Very nice information brother Sumit thank you so much

  • @reeferfranklin
    @reeferfranklin 23 дня назад

    I'm heavily convicted, and have been for years, that Saint Thomas came to Persia, Parthia & India, that the Christians Vasco de Gama met in the Kingdom of Calicut was Thomas's Church, and I'm also currently convicted that Saint Batholomew, Saint Pantænus & Saint Thomas of Kinayi all evangelized the Indian Subcontinent.

  • @isabellalyngdoh3765
    @isabellalyngdoh3765 10 месяцев назад

    Thank st Thomas for binging faith in India n please pray for us

  • @noellapinto3793
    @noellapinto3793 Год назад +4

    Appreciate the wonderful efforts you've put in! Looking forward to more like this! 😇

  • @johnydevassia
    @johnydevassia 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you Rev. Fr .It is very clear that you have made a deep study in this historical long standing controversy
    I am also belonging to Nasarani Christian. We celebrate The Martyrdom. Day of St. Thomas on July 4th every year.
    A. Sreedhara menon, a great scholar in Kerala History agreed that St. Thomas came in the Kerala coast in A. D 52. The British Encyclopedia also greed this historical event.
    You might have heard an opinion from Our Late Holiness Pope Benedict 16th that St. Thomas didn't Come to India. Even if we can't deny His view for He was a great scholar, it brought about great protest among the Nasarani Christians.
    Rev. Fr. thank you for your deep scholarly study
    Fr.

  • @patriciaprawin6068
    @patriciaprawin6068 Год назад +1

    Very interesting!

  • @densaldanha
    @densaldanha Год назад +2

    Production Quality keeps getting better, we might have a Netflix Show soon!

    • @AJesuitAdventure
      @AJesuitAdventure  Год назад +2

      hahaah....sure bro will definitely try...provided u work on the designing 🤩

  • @pravinshrisunder5094
    @pravinshrisunder5094 Год назад +2

    Great, Thats great information.. As mentioned Arikamedu is near Mylapore, Where is this Arikamedu located exactly ....and second Arikamedu is in Pondicherry which is also known Indi-Roman Trade Center... Pl reply

  • @questioningheart
    @questioningheart Год назад

    Well done Sumit... brilliant..

  • @thengingalwilly1493
    @thengingalwilly1493 Год назад +1

    We find great difficulty in the Christian history in Kerala, because of the manipulation made by the Portuguese Christian system. There are many. Eg. The city in the first century 'Palore ' in which St. Thomas preached was formated into Palayur at different place by two centuries ago. Actually St. Thomas came at Palore in search of God's people the Jews. May be their Synagogue had change into Church. He reached there by a waterway from the Arabian sea ending on the pond nearby that Church. Which was also manipulated in to Brahmin baptism theory. And another manipulated history happened against the ancient Church in Palore that a priest was killed in its Holy Altar by Tippu Sultan. That was a well-known story in that whole Taluk. The truth unearthed by three decades ago that Tippu's war against Nazranigur was in 1789,but the present Church was built in 1806. The port ' Muziris' of Pleny the elder was erased from history. It's forced to believe that place is Kodungallur. There no research and no evidence of first Chera dynasty ruled in between 3rd century BC and 300 CE. We know that the Palore city and Muziris port was ruled by them and St. Thomas came there amidst their ruling. It's the 2nd Chera dynasty moved from there to Kodungallur by fifth century.

  • @TonyDCheruvathur
    @TonyDCheruvathur 10 месяцев назад

    The message is important than the carrier. St. Thomas was the carrier. His message was Christ. The beauty is none of the Apostles or anyone of Christ's followers claimed that Jesus vanquished all his enemies and became the King or anything similar to that theory. No body claimed superiority in winning rather everyone spoke of love and forgiveness. This is true across the world. There is universal consent on the main message of what Jesus Christ did or say and they are compatible with our commonsense too.
    The problem with seeking evidence for historical happenings is, they can always be contradicted with another evidence. So why bother? I am happy with the message and I am grateful to whoever be the person who brought them here to India.

  • @Apkoc6ui
    @Apkoc6ui 2 месяца назад

    Mar Thoma came in search for lost 10 tribes who were longing for their messiah. All 7 churches he established were jewish colonies as per the local history, present day and archeological evidence includingthe copper plates granted to this community. We St.thomas Christians, eka Nazrani Christians of kerala, still worship in Suriyani, the native dielect of our messiah , jesus of Nazareth . Proud to be mar thoma nazrani .

  • @jaysphere7519
    @jaysphere7519 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yes St Thomas was in India. My great great grandfather related how he and St Thomas use to hang out at the local Nair tea stall those days.

  • @jy7383
    @jy7383 Год назад +1

    + A.M.D.G. I have known about this since my mother-in-law stayed with Bridgetine nuns while we were house-hunting in 1974 --- but i would love to know more ---- i also remember when the Gospel of St Thomas was printed while I did a holiday job in Harrod's book department in 1960 (?)

  • @suranjanbaskey813
    @suranjanbaskey813 Год назад +7

    Thank you brother for your valuable research on the visit of St Thomas to India. I came to know many unknown facts through the video. Well done bro 👍

  • @nicholassamuel4454
    @nicholassamuel4454 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for a brilliant analysis, When I visited the alleged St.Thomas tomb as a foreign tourist, there was a stray dog sleeping on it within the church premises.

    • @georgeabraham5532
      @georgeabraham5532 10 месяцев назад +2

      Not sure who was your guide. The tomb is inside a church premise. How can a dog even get in.

    • @denisepaul99
      @denisepaul99 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's not a sin for a dog to be on the tomb of a saint. This dog is pure and innocent, perhaps much better than many people. So, for us Christians it is not an outrage.

  • @Truthseeker371
    @Truthseeker371 9 месяцев назад +1

    The fact is there were Jewish community in the Southern India. Whether Thomas went to evangelise in the Southern India is inclusive.

  • @Amitdas-gk2it
    @Amitdas-gk2it Год назад +1

    Interesting

  • @opheliamiranda1767
    @opheliamiranda1767 Год назад +4

    Highly informative. Appreciate the effort taken to produce this.

  • @paulsudhakar5199
    @paulsudhakar5199 9 месяцев назад

    Crystal clear explanation with a beautiful accent!

  • @ganesamoorthi5843
    @ganesamoorthi5843 10 месяцев назад +1

    இந்த நாட்டில் இருந்து ஆயிரமாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பு வணிக தொடர்பு எகிப்து மற்றும் உலகமெங்கும் நடந்தது...
    கேரளாவின் முதன்மை விளைபொருள் மற்றும் உற்பத்தி பொருள் கப்பல்கள் மூலம் உலக வணிக சந்தையில் மிகுந்த வரவேற்பைப் பெற்றன...
    எனவே தங்கு தடையின்றி வணிக கப்பல்களின் பயணம் இருந்தால் தான் இசுரேல் நாட்டின் யூத மக்கள் இங்கு வந்து வாழ்ந்தனர்.... அவர்களை தேடி வந்ததே புனித தோமையர் அவர்கள்....
    எனவே அக்காலங்களில் நமது வழிபாடு உலகளாவிய வழிபாடு....
    மதங்கள் வரவில்லை...
    வழிபாடுகள் வழிவிலகி மதங்கள் ஆகின...
    இன்று கடவுளை விற்பனை செய்வது இந்த மதங்கள் தான்...

  • @paulphelps7809
    @paulphelps7809 10 месяцев назад

    Significant information and well presented; thank you.
    Jesus commanded his followers to go into all the world and make disciples --and God would promote it.
    Lively trade between Mediterranean ports and Parthia existed; Roman coins are found in southern India.

  • @soren17423
    @soren17423 10 месяцев назад

    It was a wonderful search to establish if St: Thomas had come to India to preach the gospel first। If we are confirmed that all other 11disciples went to 11 different country or places of the world, it surely be St Thomas who came and preach the gospel, because someone did it, as a general understanding।

  • @honeybunbear7749
    @honeybunbear7749 10 месяцев назад

    greatly appreciated

  • @devasiamunjely
    @devasiamunjely Год назад +2

    The literature regarding St Thomas and the church records were destroyed by the Portuguese priests as heretical, the Roman Catholic Church actually destroyed the indigenous Christian culture, the Roman Catholic Church has its own narrative to show that it's supreme.

  • @johnbooth1110
    @johnbooth1110 10 месяцев назад +1

    there is a india man i met who told me the desendence of thomas live still in mumbi.

  • @byjumichaelpavutheril5489
    @byjumichaelpavutheril5489 6 месяцев назад

    St. Thomas came to North of India starting from Edessa /Urfa via the euphrates tigris river route establishing churches in North of Iraq including Baghdad, South of Iraq in Basra, in what is now Iran, Afghanistan, what is now Pakistan and the northern parts of India and then he went back to Edessa /Urfa. Then he went to Egypt waited there for a ship to take him to south of India. He had written a book on his journey to India and it was discovered in St. Catherine's monastery in Egypt in the 18th century. The he found a ship that took him to the south of India and landed in kerala.

  • @arnoldmaglalang3451
    @arnoldmaglalang3451 Год назад +1

    St Thomas Catholic Church in Kerala India and Thomas went to Kerala India in 66 ad.

  • @neilcordeiro
    @neilcordeiro 3 месяца назад +1

    Makes no sense when Western scholars say that St.Thomas did not come to India....when the locals themselves proudly proclaim he did !! We trust the locals ... Godbless 🙏🏼

  • @dravidmaharaj1498
    @dravidmaharaj1498 Месяц назад

    I am Living near St Thomas Mount in Chennai.
    Our Area is called St Thomas Mount

  • @valenciamenezes818
    @valenciamenezes818 Год назад +1

    It's very informative

  • @johnstaciocardozo7117
    @johnstaciocardozo7117 9 месяцев назад +1

    The remains of St Thomas were taken to Italy, aren’t they not good enough to tell who’s remains they really are and where were they taken from?

  • @amihanathabagat
    @amihanathabagat 10 месяцев назад

    I was listening to readings of the visions of St. Catherine of Emmerich. In one of them, she was recounting the last days of the Blessed Virgin Mary. She said that St. Thomas was late, arriving only after she had passed away and was buried, but I don't recall if it was after the Apostles discovered her body being assumed to heaven. Anyway, St. Catherine said that St. Thomas returned to India where he was killed by a spear, and that the spot where he died was on a stone that bore his knee marks. The visionary was a secluded nun living in the 18th century.

  • @MathewThomasFET
    @MathewThomasFET Год назад +3

    Please read my brother's book, "The Mar Thoma story".

  • @fleuromeara4924
    @fleuromeara4924 11 месяцев назад +2

    I believe Thomas came as in the wonderful video,"Out of India".

  • @JobinJacobKavalam
    @JobinJacobKavalam Год назад +1

    I belong to the Syro Malabar rite and hence the historicity of St Thomas's arrival in India does matter. Unfortunately, after listening to this video, i am doubtful if we will ever know the truth.

  • @ashwinkujur4797
    @ashwinkujur4797 Год назад

    A great many information 🙏

  • @SanjayFGeorge
    @SanjayFGeorge 11 месяцев назад +1

    Christians all over the world used to be called Nasrani by others before the term was coined in Antioch. But the Arabs continued to call them that. This may be why Christians in Malaysia are called Srani. This is why ISIS agents marked the houses of Assyrian and Chaldean Christians with the Arab letter "Noon" just before an invasion.
    ---+---
    The first recorded use of the term (or its cognates in other languages) is in the New Testament, in Acts 11 after Barnabas brought Saul (Paul) to Antioch where they taught the disciples for about a year, the text says that "the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch" (Acts 11:26).

  • @joselynsaldanha1736
    @joselynsaldanha1736 Год назад

    Nicely explained

  • @priyadarshanmacwan4042
    @priyadarshanmacwan4042 Год назад

    Absolutely Right 👍

  • @rajarethinamjayaraj7637
    @rajarethinamjayaraj7637 5 месяцев назад

    St Thomas mount Railway station is in chennai (Parangimalai) Tamilnadu. India -Church in the name of Thomas is there.

  • @cylusbenjamin8436
    @cylusbenjamin8436 Год назад +2

    Apostle Thomas came to pakistan first..The ruined chapel at sircap near Taxila is the clear evidence. The Quaide Azam university of pakistan accepts the sircap museum and the Chapel at sircap pakistan. Moreover the Baltistan university of pakistan too has found out the large kavardo cross at Skardu of pakistan

  • @athanasiusopara3360
    @athanasiusopara3360 10 месяцев назад +2

    St Thomas was in India. The weight of evidence is in that favour.

  • @jonogan
    @jonogan 3 месяца назад

    My father's paternal grandparents were natives of Tamil Nadu and while I believe they were Hindu, I think my great grandmother took a more syncretistic approach to her religious practice. They believed that St Thomas came to India and I want to believe the same despite the lack of concrete evidence.
    I am curious to know if there are there people in South India who practice a mix of Christianity and Hinduism.
    I have heard that the Portuguese may have destroyed precious ancient palm leaf manuscripts in their 16th century attempts to make the more Hinduism-tolerant St Thomas Christianity of Kerala and Tamil Nadu, more closely resemble that of Rome. Does anyone have more information on this?

  • @joshuadsouza3990
    @joshuadsouza3990 Год назад +4

    Wow... Fantastic to know so much more about St Thomas.... Great work Bro. Sumit.... Continue to keep inspiring... Sharing the Word

  • @margahe9157
    @margahe9157 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a German evangelical Christian. I do believe St. Thomas, the disciple of the Lord Jesus came to India!!!

    • @Rose-Jackie
      @Rose-Jackie 2 месяца назад

      Love you. God bless you

  • @anthonydecastro6938
    @anthonydecastro6938 5 месяцев назад

    "India" has always had extensive trade and commercial relations with many regions, including the Mediterranean world throughout the centuries and millennia. In which case it is possible that Indian traders and commercial agents native to southern India (as we know it today - Kerala) and foreign merchants who established themselves there were Christians who came from communities evangelized by St. Thomas. This seems to me a more plausible explanation for the so-called "Thomas Christians" than having the Apostle Thomas making a physical appearance in that part of present-day India.

  • @sunder-1234
    @sunder-1234 6 месяцев назад

    This is a clear, cool analysis of the belief. I, though an agnost, believe that St. Thomas indeed came to India to spread the Gospel & was martyred on present day St. Thomas Mount.