IS STELLANTIS KILLING DODGE ON PURPOSE?
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- In this video I share my opinion on Dodge pulling out of the auto shows recently and ending production of the beloved Dodge Challenger and Charger Hellcat, Scat Pack, RT, GT, and SXT's.
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This is why dodge needs to be American owned and American made
Well it was failing that’s why it got bought out.
now dodge, Chrysler, ram, jeep. Is an Italian brand. And all jeep production is soon to be all moved to Italy.
I thought us Americans believe in free market capitalism? Are you saying the US government should have blocked the sale to Stellantis?
Exactly mate, it's time for Dodge to be an independent car company again.
@@CJColvin so you want the US government to force Stellantis to sell Dodge to an American company?
@@barco581 Yes, I want Dodge to be all American again, Stellantis is nothing but pure evil 😈.
I feel like stellantis is trying to kill them on purpose for sure. Smh.
Stellantis wants Dodge dead. Dodge doesn’t have any new cars. They don’t fit into the Global plan.
Does seem that way.
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I can't believe you didn't mention that the crooked Dodge franchisees are killing Dodge sales.
The first thing Stalantis said when they bought fca was they would kill dodge within 10 years if they didn't turn things around then they get rid of the only cars people want and go all electric so why are we surprised?
Stellantis doesn't care. They said themselves they are moving to become a software based company. Lower sales, majority of the staff laid off, higher margins
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Yep, either someone buys Dodge from them or its done....sad.....poor Tim K....he's worked hard..
About that: in the '90s Agnelli (the owners of Fiat and now the owner of the biggest share in Stellantis) wanted to move from car manufacturing to telecommunications, and the reverted back to cars after it failed. It will hapoen the sane again.
Stellentis is multi faces as peugeot....
As an elderly Mopar collector and fan, I fully agree with you and predict that Dodge and Chrysler will go by the wayside as Desoto, Plymouth, and AMC did! It's not if, it's when at this point!
It’s going to be sooner than later
"The Merger of Equals" was the start. The brass at Chrysler colluded with Daimler to try & screw shareholders out of a buyout premium. When that was done, then Daimler ran Chrysler into the ground- hilariously, the German brass got on the planes & went back to Germany leaving the corpse to rot- and Obama shoved the remains in bed with FIAT.
…and IMPERIAL .
Mopar muscle car owners who want these high HP ICE in these vehicles are like gun owners - just a small drop in the bucket in a vast ocean of consumers who really don't care of any of it!
Unless the EPA CAFE MPG laws can be changed at the federal level, any one who buys Dodge, or any other company, will be faced with the same problem that Dodge is facing right now with the CAFE standards! They certainly are NOT going to invest hundreds of millions of dollars to build an engine and vehicle that they cannot sell or if they sell, they will be penalized to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars - that's what Stellantis is experiencing right now!!! Stellantis now pays hundreds of millions of dollars to Tesla to buy carbon credits for their corporate MPG doesn't meet federal standards!!! So Tesla does nothing but make their battery cars and get paid this pile of money just because the federal government has their hand on the scale tipping it in favor of battery car.
@@LWRCI agree. We muscle car owners are a minority. The vast majority just look at a car to get from point A to point B which is a shame because Life's too short to drive a boring car.
I feel bad for Tim he worked his whole career to achieve his passion and Stellantis ripped it out from under him faster than plan B 😂
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Stellantis is the reason why Tim had to get rid of the legendary Hemi V8s and replace em with these stupid Hurricane engines.
Sure Tim saw it coming and his book will probably be out in a few years. Perhaps he ends up at Ford or Chevy to help lead the V8 Mustangs and Corvettes, which are going to be around for quite some time.
I agree. You can’t have a European culturally driven company really appreciate American history and love of charger challenger muscle cars. Recapitalize Dodge and divest from Stellantis the lost land of automotive development and make it an American company again.
Agreed 100% Dodge needs to become an independent car company again and invest in the money of recreating the Plymouth and Desoto brands as well.
America ruined 'American history'. Fiat had nothing to do with passing EV mandates in the US. What do you expect car manufacures to do, especially American ones to do when the government is mandating that the 'American history' gets thrown out the window.
I'm sure Stellantis won't have any problem to sell it if someone makes an offer. But who will make that offer?
i am a retired attorney and a Harvard grad. i am also a 60 year "mopar guy" with a collection of 7 68-69 Plymouth Barracudas, a 2020 Hellcat Challenger 6sp and a 2021 Challenger RT Scat Pack Shaker 6sp. i completely agree with your analysis. i did 23 years in the Marines and 2 in the Army. i've traveled overseas a lot. you are correct - the Europeans generally dislike America and Americans. there are a thousand reasons why they have those opinions (some valid, most not). the average European believes that the "Average American" drives around in a giant, "jacked up" pickup truck with a handgun and a rifle sitting on the seat while drinking a beer and listening to "Country" music on the radio. all you have to do is watch a few old episodes of the British car show "Top Gear" and listen to how the three "car guys" talked about "Mericans and their big horsepower muscle cars." i was also active in local, state and national politics in the U.S. for some 40 years and i think there is a "political" reason why "mopar" will be killed off. the Democrat Party and all liberals/progressives in the U.S. are trying to kill everything that touch "conservatives" or "traditional" Americans. that is why NASCAR is being "converted" to a "woke" organization; "patriotism" is made fun of; joining the military is made fun of; "muscle cars" are made fun of; masculine pickup trucks are made fun of; the U.S. Flag and National Anthem are made fun of; - pretty much anything that will attract a conservative, "Christian", Republican voter is made fun of. of all the old "Big Three" auto makers, "Mopar" was ALWAYS the most outrageous and "masculine" and "in your face" "American." the Europeans and America's liberals want all that GONE!!
So you are the reason a 28 yea rold like me can't afford um, you are hoarding um. I guess I will have to settle for a 73 since they are cheaper...or go for a Dodge Demon (original, not modern) since they are more affordable. 😂
I'm left wing and I love guns and muscle cars... but I live in Alabama so I am not your typical left winger. I want the universal healthcare and college...but none of the woke or cancel culture stuff.
I am 28 and.only.drive cars with a manual transmission too, I will never go to EV. Just got a job working at Toyota, will save up to get me something nice, maybe a 2014 Mustang GT 6 speed manual convertible in something fun like red, blue, yellow, or green.
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 well, i salute your interests, but with respect, i think you might reconsider your "political" views.
@@jimharvard Exactly.
We all want to buy American as that's who we are as a nation. That said, the labor costs are too high in this country and is why many, not just auto manufacturers, manufacturers have been bought out by foreign interests! In addition, the engineering and design of our domestic vehicles are somehow not on par with what is coming out of Europe or Japan. Of the big 3, I'd say Stellantis has the best interior design and vehicle instrumentation on the market. Never the less, this root problem needs to be addressed or all our manufacturing base will be bought up by foreigners!!!
Yep it will only be Durango's and hornets. Banshee wont come out this year. And just like hertz and everyone else they will abandon this electric crap or go bankrupt
Sell or Destroy. If Stellantis sells Dodge/Chrysler/Ram, they risk the new owners making them super successful again. If they just shut them down and destroy the companies, that's less competition.
Sad but true. Stellantis killed off the biggest Dodge sellers (Charger & Challenger), no new products to show. Chrysler has only the Pacifica Minivan and is going all-electric soon. They are both done. Jeep and RAM will live on....for now.
My 2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited is my first and only US designed and built vehicle! Love it for what it is but honestly it has more defects than all my prior and current vehicles built in Japan and Germany COMBINED!!!
Great video Brad, very straightforward about the realities of a European country implementing their ideas of what Americans should now want buy, instead of what Americans really want to drive .
The whole situation is just sad. I'm glad I was finally able to buy a Challenger and be part of the last bit of Dodge history. I hope something changes in the future. I can't see their whole EV car dream coming true. Hopefully once they realize that, we will start getting real cars again. I believe you to be 100% on point about Stellantis. Hopefully something changes in the near future. Thanks for another great and informative video. I hate that some folks are really shitty toward you in the comment section. Buncha losers. Be well.
That's just it, stallantis knows that they're going to lose their core base with the EVs they know good and well the 19 year olds in the hood is not going to be buying that.
Thank you for making my job for the last 7 years worthwhile xo
What does dodge have other than 2 cars that were a 20 year old design. They had no new suv's or mass market sedans trucks are spun off. Muscle cars are dead it was fun so dodge has nothing to sell why keep them
@@highlymedicated243819 year olds in the hood? You didn’t have to try and sugar coat your stereotypical racism. We all know what you meant.
@@Kenthetic I know thats why I didnt say white people
Honestly, Dodge will just be a specialty brand soon. They can't put out the volume of high-performance EVs to make a profit like their gas counterparts. The future doesn't look good. They will never match the sales numbers that they have today. You see a V6 or V8 Charger and Challenger everywhere in both the private sector and law enforcement. Does Stellantis honestly think they can get those customers in their new products that will cost more and perform less?
Yes, agree completely. I have been telling local dealership for months that Stellantis is killing Dodge. I have said that Stellantis sounds like a disease that a car company gets.
Yes. They are killing not only Dodge but Ram by retiring the 5.7 V8 and Hellcat. They should have invested in newer V8 engines long ago as the 5.7 is dated and will not meet epa requirements. They waited too long and now, instead, they gotta put a BMW-style engine in what is supposed to be an American truck and car!! Nothing against BMW, if I want a straight six, I’d get a European car. We want V8s!
Frankly, I was relieved to see it was an inline 6 and not another V6..inline sixes are smooth and torquey, and were long an icon in the American auto landscape... @@applianceman6009
we had that down under when GM killed of Holden and brought in some French pos that they rebranded as the Holden Commodore.
Yes, as an American, I hated to see that happen...it had an effect on us, also, as the rear-wheel drive Impalas, etc. we thought we would get never happened. We did get the Camaro platform before Holden was axed, at least..very sad...
I live in Europe (Hungary) and the biggest difference (if anyone is interested) is that 1 liter of fuel here costs the same as a gallon in America! (1 US gallon = 3.7 liters) and that's the problem! We know that a Dodge challenger is not the real thing if it has a 1.6 petrol or 2 liter diesel engine instead of a V8 engine! However, for 2.5 dollars per liter, it is a great luxury to fill up here! In America, even a Mc Donalds worker can drive a V8 car, here only the rich! The rich, on the other hand, buy Mercedes, BMW or Rolls Royce instead of Dodge. The average person or a middle-class person would not be able to maintain it! I would like to add that you wouldn't be able to refuel the Dodge muscle cars either, if starting tomorrow at the gas station, you would get a liter instead of a gallon for that money. 1 liter = 0.2 gallons! imagine if tomorrow you could get 0.2 gallons of gasoline for the average American price of $3. I think many of you would switch to a Prius. The other problem with European sales is that it is much more difficult to supply spare parts here! If I were to buy a DODGE tomorrow, I would have to wait weeks or even months for a brake pad, a cardan shaft part, an engine part to arrive here from America, or I could order it separately from an American dealer and I would have to pay hundreds of dollars in shipping fees and customs. Which is a problem because if you go into a parts store and buy a 50-dollar part (plugs, pipe, whatever) you put the fifty on the table and the salesperson puts the part on the counter and you go home happy, you can go cruising in your car in the afternoon ! Here, the $50 part with customs and shipping is about $450 and I have to wait two weeks for it. That's why American cars didn't spread here, and many petrol heads love your muscle cars here too. Lot of europian dads wanna drive a big strong car like an american dads, just we can’t.
Hello dodge Fans. I am from the netherlands but we live in germany. We own a restaurant here. And i am verry happy to own a charger 392 daytona as well. The reason why people don't buy dodges here is of course the gasprices here are much hire than in us but also the price. In the netherlands a new charger 392 costs around €120000 because of taxes. All us cars are expensive here to make Sure people buy Our own european cars. But in return european cars in are chea 19:00 per in us than here. You are getting screwed because of unfair taxes
I’m not sure how this could be considered offensive. If you’re not spot on, I bet you’re damn close.
I just wish Stellantis would sell the Chrysler division to an entity ready to bring these brands back to their full potential. It’s painful to watch this massacre of our brand.
Thanks! Check my comments. Europe is chiming in and gettin ugly. lol.
The globalist are celebrating the death of the American automobile industry and stelantis was probably part of it . Buy the brand , destroy the brand .
Europeans shouldn't get involved in Americans car manufacturing. They have different car culture than the US or even where I live here in Saudi. Imo, legacy American companies should be run by Americans or at least some one well aware of the car culture in USA.
I agree!
Once they started discontinuing the Hemi, Charger and Challenger. I felt like Stellantis could care less about Dodge.
It seems like all American Automakers in jeopardy.
I never had issues with electric but it’s gone to far. The attacks on internal combustion engines is way out of control.
Great video. It really sucks that is really happening. Dodge needs a life line from the other U.S. auto makers to bring This company back to an American Owed company.
Great video!
Tim Kuniskis and Stellantis will put Dodge in Bankruptcy later this year. They need to get rid of the expensive contracts and debt. Then, find a buyer for what’s left.
Expensive contracts as in the UAW settlement last winter??!!!
OC, I greatly love and appreciate your channel and your info. Thanks a whole bunch!
Amen brother! Love the channel, look forward to the videos, you’re usually spot on. Thank you for everything you do. By watching your videos I was able to get a Hellcat without markup or getting taken, and got a bunch of freebies thrown in !!Wish I could have a beer with you to thank you
Love your opinion. Look forward to your videos and always great info
Always remember:
They started screwing up by canceling the Magnum before it ever had a chance to shine.
Then they nerfed the 300 and focused on SRT under Dodge.
Then they ended SRT.
Then they ended the “Grand Cherokee” name
Now they are ending the HEMI…
They are basically destroying themselves.
Since when have they ended the grand Cherokee name?
Everybody forgot that ugly travesty they brought out in 2014 called a "Cherokee", that was a slap in the face of the real XJ Cherokee?..apparently, it hasn't sold as well as they would have liked, as they are now killing it off(good riddance)..what surprises me is that it sold as well as it did...
You are spot on! We want V8s/V6s/Hybrids. No EVs. Lower prices. I’m in Chicago and Teslas were ice buckets this winter. There’s nothing like starting up your V8 in the morning. I have a 2018 Chrysler 300s 5.7L v8. Stellantis would be better served keeping V8s, new body shapes and improved security features to deter theft. That is what would get me excited 🎉
I agree 100%! What I also find interesting is that they made Tim Kuniskis the ceo of the Ram brand randomly, so you might right about the Dodge brand having no future!
I think what you said there was on point, lots of valid points made. I think it boils down to a European company who hates American cars/culture, showing up,buying Dodge and expecting us to like and accept what they have to offer from their linage. If they’re going to make it sales wise over here in the US, They need to go back and grasp that basic philosophy,make cars that people want. Over here, Horsepower sells. that means that Stellantis may have to diversify a little more to please everybody. rumors have been flying that they may snuff out Dodge all together. Who knows at this point?🤷🏽♂️
Mopar muscle car owners who want these high HP ICE in these vehicles are like gun owners - just a small drop in the bucket in a vast ocean of consumers who really don't care about any of it!
Unless the EPA CAFE MPG laws can be changed at the federal level, any one who buys Dodge, or any other company, will be faced with the same problem that Dodge is facing right now with the CAFE standards! They certainly are NOT going to invest hundreds of millions of dollars to build an engine and vehicle that they cannot sell or if they sell, they will be penalized to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars - that's what Stellantis is experiencing right now!!! Stellantis now pays hundreds of millions of dollars to Tesla to buy carbon credits for their corporate MPG doesn't meet federal standards!!! So Tesla does nothing but make their battery cars and get paid this pile of money just because the federal government has their hand on the scale tipping it in favor of battery car.
When Tony took over aka Fiat which is Stellantis the handwriting was on the wall. In fact I'm pretty shocked that it took this long for them to start rolling up the carpet on Dodge. First, they withdrew from NASCAR after a Dodge won the Championship. The Charger and Challenger were born during the Mercedes era so I guess they figured they keep building them and making money but the outcry from the Climate changers was just getting too loud. I guess no one is paying attention to the current commercials but when they try and present a Hornet as the new face of the muscle car you should know it's over and start looking for something else to drive. These people hate you and you better realize that.
The Charger and Challenger were born during the 1960s. But yes, letting a european company be in control of Dodge was a horrible mistake. To understand why they're killing Dodge you need to understand the past 30 years or so, and that europe has always been absolutely terrified of having to compete with American auto brands on a level playing field.
Because in the past few decades American brands have been artificially kept from selling in Europe, with protectionist market policies to save the european auto industry. If American brands were sold in Europe without any additional fees and with the same taxes applied to them as european brands, brands like opel, bmw, peugeot, skoda, renault, citroen, seat, vw, audi, alfa, volvo, would've lost about 70% of their customers. Clearly europe couldn't let that happen, so for all these decades, American brands have been kept from selling via nonsense policies and unfair market practices.
Now, I'm sure that at least a few people reading this will be flabbergasted beyond measure and they're gonna start screeching at me about the "horrible horrible quality" of American cars.. even though thats nothing but propaganda also pushed by european sources like top gear uk, to achieve the same goal. You can ask any real car mechanic who works on these cars every day, they'll tell you American cars (real ones not cars like the chevy aveo, lacetti, spark, ford fiesta, or similar cars) are more reliable and better quality than anything that was put out by europe. They'll also tell you exactly how much "german engineering" is worth.
1 - Theres quite a few examples of this european fear of American car dominance, but my favorite is the Chrysler ME 412. This is a car that was supposed to come out in 2004, when Chrysler and Mercedes were merged. The problem? It was going to come out around the same time the SLR Mclaren was going to come out. And it absolutely demolished the Mercedes in every way possible, in 0-60, top speed, handling, braking, and was even going to cost less, AND it used a Mercedes engine, AND Chrysler did it in less time with less resources. This was absolute humiliation for Mercedes, so they killed it off.
2 - Another example is American trucks in the Netherlands. Most vehicles in the Netherlands are average cars, but 9 out of 10 pickup trucks, are the typical American trucks you see in the US. The RAM 1500, F150, Raptors, Chevy Avalanches, and etc. Thanks to a tax advantage, if Dutch people register their vehicles as used for their business, they can buy them at a fair price, like a normal vehicle. And will you look at that, 90% of Dutch people who buy trucks, chose to buy American.
3 - Lastly, the Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300. This is going to sting a little for euro brand fanboys, but europe has nothing that competes with the Charger/300. A 4 door V8 sedan for around $40K. Europe, has, nothing. I've had these arguments literally thousands of times and done my homework, I've looked through all the potential competitors, and there isn't a single European vehicle, that competes with the Charger. The *closest* competitor in price is the C63 AMG, which starts at $65K. The closest competitor in size, is the E63 AMG, which is even more expensive.
Shortly, there is a massive hunger in Europe for proper sized V8 sedans that are actually within reach for the average person, yet the cheapest one starts at $65K. If the Charger and 300 were officially imported to Europe, and would compete on a level playing field, no sane person would buy C63/E63 AMGs ever again. This is yet another thing europe can't allow to happen.
So back to the original point, why is Dodge being killed off? Because politics. Europe knows the current president and his administration is on the way out, and the door WILL slam on their behind. And the guy coming back, who was the president from 2016 to 2020, made it clear he does not like the unfair policies and practices by Europe against American products. Just imagine if he brings change to these policies, and theres Chargers and 300s ready to ship to Europe. The results for european brands would be cataclysmic.
Anyway, didn't mean for this to be this long, also I'm European and live in the EU, before anybody accuses me of protecting American brands. I'm just protecting the truth.
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I'm not so sure why you think Europeans hate American brands when they face a completely different set of circumstances in Europe!
1. The roads are narrower
2. Fuel prices are higher
3. They have less disposable income to spend on cars than Americans
Regarding American brands and quality! I'll tell you my personal experience! I bought my first and only American designed and built vehicle in 2016 and I still own it! It is the iconic Jeep Wrangler! Love it for what it is but, and this is a big BUT, it has more manufacturing defects than all my current and previously owned vehicles from Japan and Germany COMBINED. I currently do not own any Japanese vehicles and all my other vehicles are all German. The Honda Accord and the Acura I owned had zero and one defect during my ownership. The Honda Accord was bullet proof and it just kept running. No issues what so ever in the 18 or so years I owned it - it was that good and reliable. The Acura had an annoying squeak that was traced to a mounting point in a rear shock. It was also very reliable. The Jeep on the other hand has had almost a dozen issues!
With regards to European brands being able to compete against American brands as you stated Mercedes C63 vs the Charger, if you look at the overall design, engineering and build quality, it still does not even come close. Sure performance per dollar spent, it is hard to top American muscle. But when the thing fails constantly, how much is your time worth?
This exact same argument can be made for the new Chevy C8 Corvette against the best German sports car - the 911 Twin Turbo S! As the C8 Z06 is out and the C8 ZR1 about to be released in 2025, certainly the performance per dollar is impressive. But, the design of the C8 looks like it was done by amateurs and the build quality is no where near the entry level 911! Search YT for the channel where one guy wanted to remove tires off of his C8 Z06 but the dealer couldn't help because they probably didn't have the equipment to do it. he contacted GM and they were of no help. He had to contact Ferrari to get it done! On another channel, a new C8 Z06 owner had the engine fail at less than 1000 miles and Chevy had to swap out a new motor under warranty!!! Yeah - that's quality for sure!!!
@@LWRC 1 - Roads being narrower - This is correct, in some places roads in Europe are narrower.
However this is not the 1970s anymore and we're not talking about Cadillac Eldorados. Today's American cars are no bigger than Mercedes, bmw, or Audis. If road size was an issue, these brands also wouldn't do well here and also Dutch people wouldn't buy American trucks 90% of the time.
2 - Fuel prices, this is also correct. But again, these fuel prices don't stop Mercedes AMGs from having a market, and they get the same gas mileage as Charger SRTs.
3 - Disposable income, this is also true, and its another reason why Europe needs cheaper full sized sedans that compete with AMGs.
C63 vs Charger - design, engineering, quality. These are nothing but buzzwords you picked up from shows like top gear uk. This is nothing but empty talk. Like I said, go ask any real car mechanic, german engineering is nothing special, they do not make more reliable cars than Dodge. And lets not pretend like anybody will be able to tell the difference between the interior of a Charger and a C63, not that there is any difference. I know Porsche keeps scoring high on the reliability ratings.
I'm not too familiar with the C8 Corvette, I mean I follow the news but not too interested. Not surprising that its not very reliable, though 1 engine failure means nothing. That happens in every brand.
Brad, every thing you said is true. The proof is Stellantis has no interest whatsoever in producing new and exciting motoring products for U.S. consumer.
The arrogance really shines through in their decisions. They really thought they could market there way through killing the charger and challenger, but it's been a disaster. Hopefully they know now, we aren't going to drink the Kool aid just because they gave it to us. Hemi or no hemi, they could have kept making those cars.
Due to the EPA CAFE mileage standards, all these high powered low MPG engines will be killed. Look up and see how much money Stellantis paid Tesla to buy carbon credits!!! Hundreds of millions!!! Do you think Stellantis will make these muscle cars with 4 bangers in them??!!!
Yes...revamped them and put a high-output turbo Hurricane inline 6 in them...wouldn't be a V8, but would have been far better accepted than what they are giving us....
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I think 1 of the biggest differences between the US and our friends across the pond, as it relates to Dodge in particular, is the differences in our love of racing. Rally racing is more popular in the east vs more oval/drag racing here in the states.
Part of the problem with the Hornets is that they were supposed to be $35,000. You can't find one on a lot for less than $45,000, with some over $50,000. NUTS!!!
Amen Brother! Keep up the good work! Love your content.
I agree with you Brad and TK, Stellantis is trying to kill off Dodge and the Dodge Brother's are rolling over in their graves.
It hurt DODGE when FCA (at the time) over a decade ago split the DODGE RAM into its own brand as we know it today, RAM trucks.
That's because they plan on killing off Dodge. Ram and Jeep are profitable so they'll stick around.
When I visited Sweden, I saw like 5 different RAM TRX's in 1 city alone...even less regular ones though. Saw no F150s, but I saw 2 Silverados....and one was made into an ambulance.
I even saw a Challenger dribing around in the winter snow!
I know the election is still a while away but Trump said that he will drastically lower cafe standards. Maybe Stellantis is waiting to to make their move. It's wishful thinking but you never know.
Trump never left wake the fuck up. Ev are not going to take over the Petrol trust me. This is the year.
I hope trump wins and I'm not even Americans but what happens in USA affect everyone in the world.
@@fahdabdulaziz5067 God bless you
Amen brother! You are spot on!
It’s really nice to see someone speaking the truth. 🙏
You are exactly right! And EV's are a pipe dream. I'm in Wisconsin and they can't even give them away!
Excellent video. Your right on the money!!
When I lived in Florida, we went to the Orlando show, which was put on by Motor Trend. The dealers of all the makes put their own cars in.
Thank you for saying what so many of us think. It's cool when you vent, speaking the truth, brother
OC is a HERO for doing all this. Think about this. OC donates all the proceed from his channel to many many many charities to start off.Why does he do this videos to uncover all this bad people in the world?For you and only you. He riske his life to make these videos and he gets NOTHING in return. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!What an hero he is . Thanks OC for doing this to show all the bad people in this world.
American based in The Netherlands here, Dodge Ram Trucks are extremely popular here. As a matter of fact, they have many cat dealerships that only sell American cars. They might not like our politics, but they love our products.
Absolutely! I wish someone else would pick us up. Stellantis doesn't care and would think nothing of killing it completely. I'm sure someone told them that egg on wheels (hornet) would not sell here....Tim K prob told them the same thing....but his hands are tied.......sad.....nothing really to look forward to....
You are absolutely right ❤
First time watching your video. I totally agree with your opinion. I feel American automakers are in a very tough spot. They don’t know what will happen with the EV. I feel will not be 1/10th what the narrative politicians are pushing lately and the folks that own Chrysler, Dodge etc. are clueless to the American car owner. We have a unique taste all our own that they don’t get. Would love to see an American own Dodge, Chrysler etc. again. Maybe we can have cars we actually want to buy.
Amen Brother! I'll keep enjoying my TRX as long as I can...I agree 1000% with you..
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Your best video yet..keep speaking the truth
I am so glad I bought my hold over 22 Chrysler 300 4 months ago. Absolutely the nicest car I have ever been in in. Love it.
Amen brother, It was coming.
We're going to look at Japanese and Korean manufacturers to meet out next car need, or buy quality used cars.
I absolutely agree with you brother!
OC, Don’t forget the 25,000 Challengers and 32,000 Chargers that are in dealer inventory. Tim K mentioned the new Charger will be “late availability” and they would be building out inventory of the 2023 model year cars. I’m thinking end of Calendar year for the new Charger and the Inventory will hold the dealers over till then.
So I just looked up the number of Dodge dealerships in the USA and it was 1833. If you divide that by the number of challengers and chargers left you come up with an average of 31 cars per dealership. So selling 31 of those cars in an entire year is supposed to hold those dealerships over? I don't think so.
I think Dodge should include a 4.0L inline 6 TT Hurricane for heavy duty applications. Like for 2500 and 3500 pickups and maybe a new Viper.
Hi, I completely agree with your Statement/Comment Killing of the Dodge & Challenger really tells you this company do not like us AMERICANS we do not want to buy none of the cars you mentioned very very sad to see this happen.
That EV Charger is 5 years away from being 5 years away😂
so why don't they just put the new Hurricane I-6 in it in the meantime?...
It's a sad times we live in . We own 3 69 chargers one 13 challenger rt now its come to this one junk van. I told all my friends this is the end on dodge just like pontiac and old. Hopefully somebody will buy it up in the states. Amen
I have two questions:
Is the case that projected profit margins are not good enough for Stellantis going forward?
Does anyone know if Stellantis attempted to sell the Chrysler and Dodge brands?
I think you are so right.. well said
You sir, are brilliant.
Well from what I see what do they have to show other then the hornet,durango,and charger banshee?
Sorry, but you’re statements are incorrect subjective interpretations.
Vast majority of Europeans love the US.
Most people love Charger, Challenger etc. but can’t buy them anywhere + customs, import taxes and making them street legal in EU (lights, mirrors etc.) often doubles the original price.
Opel BTW is one of the oldest car manufacturers on earth, and was part of the GM group.
Alfa Romeo and Maserati are famous, heritage heavy brands, directly linked to Ferrari. Such brands always have great profit margins. So having them in the portfolio gives you options.
Peugeot is a well known French brand with great history, especially in motorsports.
Citröen is also one of the oldest, and actually linked to Opel, because they knew each other back in the day, and both used Henry Ford’s manufacturing systems.
DS is the innovative luxury “daughter” brand of Citröen, the idea based on the original DS model.
Stelantis was actually created as a fusion, not outright buying brands, to try stay competitive AND be present globally in some way. The individual brands would not survive.
Etc. etc.
Please do better research, or simply say “I believe”…”I could imagine”…or “maybe”…instead of presenting it as fact.
Best wishes!
That Hornet😂😂😂
Chrysler under its different owners has been gradually withdrawing from the passenger car business since the Daimler era in the late 90s. It's inevitable that Chrysler and Dodge will disappear, like Plymouth did. It's quite sad.
I agree with everything you just said. Dodge should pull out from Stalantis and go back to the drawing board
They need to bring back the Challenger and Charger with at least a V6 and to some subtle changes to the cars. For example put headlight covers on the Challenger like they have on the late and early Chargers.
This idea stems back to the BRZ crowd wanting a Turbo. It adds unnecessary costs. Everyone was crying about the outdated interior in the Challenger/Chargers. Once youve made tweaks to "make the people happy" on the outside and engine/power you now have a car MSRP'd for more than before. For Dodge to sell it without updating the interior after making the forementioned adjustments, would add even more strain to the new cost. Now youre looking at a $42k base trim V6 with all the new frills and its still rolling on the same chassis from 1990s era Mercedes post Daimler buyout of Chrysler. Youll have a true riot on your hands.
The 2022 Banshee concept is what the 1999 Charger concept was, same shape same thinking of using alternative power via CNG (Compressed Natural Gas). It got scrapped after Daimler (Mercedes) buy out just after. Just the people complaining about the Hemi werent even born before Y2K.
These cars should've never had a V6 option, V8 or nothing.
They thought the hornet was gonna ride Challenger wave 😂😂😂My local dealership have hornets just sitting.
Amen, Amen, and Amen on everything you said!!!
Amen! You are right, sir.
I agree 100%.
Ok, so... very seasoned companies like automakers, can't seem to know their customer base????
Like they dont know customers want V8s and hate electric???? Its simple.
Ain't nobody looking at what sales.... then produce more.
And what customers don't want......and cut production on those. ?????
This leaves me no option but to conclude that it is intentional.
Well said OCM so true 💪🏻💥
Thanks sir
AMEN BROTHER. You are 1000% Correct. 😎👍
Amen brother It's sad to see it happen in front of my own eye's.
I agree with you. Stellantis took over & it's been downhill since. Hopefully Dodge gets sold off in the future.
Amen.
Amen, brother, 100% agree with you, and its really sad, i hope they do sell off Dodge to another American company so Dodge doesn't die off.
Amen, brother.
Im just curious about the good old Ram 3500/2500. Rancher here.
Citreon is French for Lemon
I work for a company that is making the center console for the new Charger and production is starting around June.
Good luck you will all need it if it's got an EV in it. Fuck that garbage....... don't want it in my driveway love the hemi.
It's True.
In Toronto Canada I've went to 4 dealers and none will budge off the factory discounts ?
Even with the sale and financing profit they turned me down for a better price knowing the price is marked up?
I realize they don't want to sell.
Dealers forget alot of people know about markups from what they purchased the cars from Stellantis but they let alot of people I've met walk away.
It's time to wait till the right manufacturer wants my money.
Good Video OCM. I read some where when they Bought Dodge. That they gave them 10 years to be profitable or Be sold or Shutdown.. Bad Deal Actually!
Amen... Make Dodge Great Again!
Amen OCM. Very sad to see it happening.
100% agree with you!
you are so right!
Well good news for the Atlanta area they are going to be there I work for Hayes and we going to be there
I’ll give you a AMEN BROTHER ✊🏾. I think, your right on.
OCM how about the Track Hawk ??
My theory is that Jeep and Ram are the jewels due to their popularity, and Dodge and Chrysler are expendable. As far as Stellantis is concerned. Bob Eaton ultimately sowed the seeds of Mopar's predicament by promoting and engaging the Daimler and Chrysler merger back in the 90s. Yeah, the 300s, Chargers, and Challengers were among the harvest of the merger. But, I believe they were doing well at the time of the merger, and would have developed those rear-drive makes on their own. Iacocca never forgave Eaton for his role in the merger. Now, Mopar is under Stellantis management. And Stellantis is being the evil step-mother. The 300s, Chargers, and Challengers are a no-go across the pond because anything over there with an engine over 1000 CC's is penalized heavily with extra taxes. And their fuel prices are in the stratosphere.
Breaking news came yesterday with a teaser of a preproduction Charger, and it looks great. An ICE version with a high output twin turbo 6 would be plenty good enough for me, unfortunately no manual transmission option might be a deal breaker. I absolutely agree though its late arrival and not extending the current Challenger & Charger/300 until that time will be devastating to Dodge & Chrysler dealers. Heads should roll for that stupid management decision.
I actually think they look pretty good...but not interested unless the Hurricane 6 is available in it....
Hey man you were spot on! 😥
You're 💯 correct!
I agree on you with what's stalantis is trying to do. But my question is why do you think they want to get rid of it even if they did hate it.? It's obviously easy money for them here in the states. They didn't even have to really mess with it at all for at least a few more years
Amen brother! I’ll just drive my scat pack til one of us falls apart, smiling all the way.
Amen brother!