WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WITH NAPLETONS DODGE THE TRUTH
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2024
- In this video I share why I haven't bought any more cars from Napletons Mid Rivers Dodge Chrysler Jeep and Ram since many have asked, after buying 2 Dodge Charger Scat Packs and 1 Hellcat from them.
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I'm done with anything to do with Ram or Dodge. I've owned 3 Rams with one being a 2021 TRX. It took me 6 months to find one because virtually EVERY dealership I spoke with lied and said they'd sell at MSRP. EVERY time I went to the dealerships, EVERY one had added "extra fees" (mark-ups) to the trucks. I finally did find a dealership that actually sold it to me for MSRP. However, when I went back to the dealership to order a Challenger Hellcat Redeye Jailbreak, they took my order and I actually signed a sales order for MSRP. Three months later, the dealership called and told me that they had decided to sell the allocation to another buyer who was willing to pay $15k over MSRP. When I told them I had a signed sales order, they told me that the order was only valid if the car had been delivered to the dealership. I wasn't going to take the time or effort to fight the dealership, so I gave up. I sent an email to Kuniskis and "his" reply was that they can't tell dealerships who to sell to. Screw Dodge and screw Ram.They don't give a shit about their customers!
I feel the same way that's y in 2023 I started looking elsewhere, I ended up really liking the 1LE camaros the more I researched ,I ended up ordering a 23 but thats a long story ,I ordered 5 2024s and 1 ended up getting an allocation, but I paid msrp and even with gm raising prices it dont compare to Dodges massive increases since 2021 .I have a short video of the day I picked it up on here and absolutely Love it and I thank Dodge for continuously pissing me off since 2021 (and I Love them ) but they put a sour taste in my mouth
@@frankie072 1Le will last longer than any dodge do there's that as well. Glad you got one love my ZL1 1LE
Happened to me too...on a dodge demon 170.... F... DODGE DONE WITH THEM...
After reading your story along with several others like it, if Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and RAM go under, they deserve it!!! Absolute BS what they've allowed to happen.
Yeah I’m done with Dodge… Hellcats are now unaffordable for the average working guy.
You're a good man Brad for staying loyal to Dodge. I'm personally done with them. The entire direction is screwed, and they continue to allow dealers to screw their customers. I am now a proud Z06 owner and Im not looking back. I miss my muscle car and the last true muscle car, but Dodge doesn't care about their customers so why should I be loyal to them as a consumer. I will continue to support your channel because I appreciate honesty and people with a good heart.
A good man but he's a real estate person LOL just joking yeah he's pretty good for a white boy. Also one thing weird Tim kuniskis said at the unveiling of them specialty chargers and challengers if any dealers get caught doing underhanded things Thay would not get an allocation for a new demon 170 or any other of the chargers and challenger limited editions but that one dealer that screwed over that soldier just got a new 170 from the factory a while back after it was widely known on the internet that they screwed that soldier over and the soldier had his name on the window sticker anyways Tim kuniskis knows about he's getting another demon for the guy but he also just sent a new demon 170 to the same crooked dealer he is a liar just like Dodge itself them dealers are their customers not us
@@DouglasWilford-ls1pf pull their last call 2024 trx , 393 rubicon and 392 durangos
Welcome to the Z06 club
Less Idling to prevent tick. It's been well stated cop cars are notorious for it due to all the idling they do. Keep up the great content. It's much appreciated!
Napletons here in South Florida advertised a Scatpack on Autotrader and their website at MSRP. I take off time from work, go and test drive car. All was well till they pull the nonsense of telling me that there is a markup. They were so boldfaced with their nonsense that they could not articulate what the markup was as the manager says that he has not decided as yet!
Tick usually happens when you first start up. Once warmed up you don’t hear it as much
I had a great dealership that I bought several cars from including my 2017 Yellowjacket hellcat and couldn’t buy from them because they didn’t get any allocations. Stupid how Dodge did that. They are a fantastic smaller dealership and got penalized for being lower volume
OC, it’s not ticking…it’s purring❤
I just found you on youtube! I really like what you do! I watch your videos from 🇭🇺Hungary and I started watching your old videos too! Unfortunately, there are very few DODGEs here, and that is my dream car, but there are maybe three of them in the whole country and I have never even seen one in person. Everything I have seen and know about this car is from youtube. I love it though! You are a very good and positive person, that's why it's a special pleasure to watch, the atmosphere of the video is good, I love the streets of Garden City in the background, everything is great! Many people talk about dodge, but most of them are unsympathetic, conceited clowns! It's a pleasure to see such an influencer like you!
🫂Many thanks!!!🙏🏻
Just FYI, in the last nine months they have changed several managers and are under new management at the St. Louis area Napletons. So far I am very happy with this new management team.
I do hear the hemi tick but you should check it once the engine gets up to temperature
I hear the injectors ticking away, But I don't hear a bad lifter. I heard the hemi tick on a police car 5.7 And you'll know it when you hear It. It's pretty loud.
I don't blame you, Brad. I will never pay mark ups. I didn't pay a mark up on my 2023 Honda Civic.
Supposedly the hemi ticks starts from excessive idling. Upgrade the oil pump that the Hellcat uses.
I live 20 minutes from Napelton's. Let me know when you're back in the area. Great video.
Both my new ram and charger, both got the hemi tic round 8k miles on both, the secret I found is I switched to 5w 30 and changed the oil myself, tic on both instantly went away, it's the 0w-20 water thin oil dodge puts in to save money and trying to get better emissions!!!
My 5.7 L hemi had over 210,000 miles on it. Secret to success is used Pennzoil fully synthetic. I never had a mechanical breakdown on the Engine. Not even a water pump. Expensive oil, but well worth it.
Same here, that shit hurts even when you're trying to be careful . It's like a rat trap 😢
You did it again amazing story. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦❤️
You know what's the saddest thing? None of this struggle would have happened if Dodge hadn't decided to end production. Against all odds, there was/is a loyal buying public for these cars and their close relatives, and they've thrown that away.They have made a serious commitment to the unwinding of the company, and it's bitterly disappointing.
Like most of the economy today the Biden Administration is trying to kill the American Automotive Industry with their NEW GREEN DEAL mandating only ELECTRIC CARS! ICE engines need to, in my humble opinion, remain the mainstay! The House has passed HR-4468 prohibiting the Biden Administration to MANDATE EVs ONLY 2032! Most of your CEOs from auto companies such as Ford, GM, Honda, Stellantis, & Toyota are reconfiguring their respective opinions on the validity of EV demand? EV interest is waning. People can't afford to purchase a vehicle anymore! A new Administration is going to save the American Automotive Industry in Detroit let's hope! Dodge indeed is in serious trouble as Stellantis is losing capital in a large percentage! Dodge only has the Durango & the new Hornet in its line up! Dodge is a muscle car brand and with the Charger & Challenger removed from production here lies the problem! A PRICE RESET including deep price cutting at the retail level needs to occur in the auto industry and manufacturing of ICE engines including the Mopar hemi engines! The general public doesn't want electric cars!
Dodge is getting screwed by Biden and his corrupt EPA. They were basically forced to end the Hemi. But the greedy markups are on Dodge and the dealers.
Honestly the 6.4s are a loud engine. Ive owned 3 392s. They all sounded like that.
Very thoughtful and well balanced video!
Don’t let the cars sit there and idle when you shoot your vids. That’s when oil pressure is the lowest and is terrible for our hemis. Most of the time hemi tick is caused be excessive idling.
I just had the tick on my Ram… trust me, it wouldn’t be a second guess. The sound would be clear as day
I went to Napleton for a used car. They wanted me to fill out paperwork before they would unlock the vehicle for me to look at it.
Your Mopar is not ticking my friend!
Some guys expect these engines to be whisper quiet, and it's just not gonna happen with such high horsepower big V8 engines
I lived in St. Louis for years, now in Cali. I too thought about Napeltons after seeing your videos to avoid the high California markups, after your deal went bad I did some checking. They have 74 dealerships. So it’s just another big corporation.
On some of your video i heard a tick, but i don't know. Like many say, these engines make mechanical noises. Have you changed oil?
I don't hear a tick. I remember way back in the 80's with a 318, which was a terrific engine. After sitting for a few days, you started it up, and it ticked for about 30 seconds, and then was normal.
No ticking! 💪
Sounds dope!
Sounds fine!!
I have a swinger. Your engine sounds nothing like mine. Any mods?
Louder exhaust some Lenard Skinner fixes that tick ! Enjoy your ride !
I don't hear a tick. I think only the automatic MDS hemi's usually get the tick
If it was colder outside that ticking could be piston slap...the pistons contract more than the cylinder block and "slap" against the cylinder wall until everything is the same temp...check again after it's warmed up
Its good. Just injector noise. However I did notice the hood gap on the left is bigger than on the right. Looks like the hood needs a bit of an alignment. I know this is an issue with Dodge. I have the same on my HC. Gap is larger at the front and tappers are the rear.
I have commented under a few of your videos about Huffines CDJR in Plano TX does not and never has charged more than MSRP. Over the last 3 years. Just north of Dallas. They also have a store in Lewisville. No mark-ups from then ever. I commented this under many of your and RacerX videos. Hopefully some folks were able to get their cars at MSRP or less.
Good story, Brad and it is what it is. Maybe you can go back to them when you buy your first Hornet???
Sounds like the injectors to me.
If you had a real Hemi "Tic", you would know it! When it happens, it is quite loud!
I hear more or a bearing whine. Does your car have direct injection? If so, the tick is probably that.
Napletons and arrigo dodge dealerships all in south florida all do the bait and switch...price online changes drastically when you go to dealer....their markups are always added and they try to explain and usually fall on their faces.....arrigo had a demon 170 that came in at arrigo margate with someone else name on build sheet in window...they offered me the vehicle and would give me a good deal on my challenger hellcat redeye 😂I said not with that markup...the salesman said it won't last long.....I went back 2 weeks later and vehicle was still sitting on showroom....salesman asked if I was ready and I said don't worry it won't last long😂he gave me a dirty look and walked away😂
There’s a Napleton’s Northlake CDJR in the West Palm Beach FL area… I suspect same Napleton’s owner…?
I hear everything that you are saying, ironically, though the Napleton's in Arlington Heights, IL close to where I live, had been allocated a few scatpacks and hellcats. They were still jacking up prices on all. Up around me, Napleton's has always been that example of awfully greedy dealer that we have all heard about!
Oh wow- I had no idea 49 state cars were still being produced (ironically I live in CA-sigh). I thought that ended several decades back. Thinking early 90's.
i truly want to see the end of dealerships... buy direct from manufacturer... manufacturer maintains service warranty facilities... msrp only... no markups...
I bought a 2010 Chatger from Napleton in N.J., and never had a problem with them, including the purchase.
Hemi Tick......heat shield bolts on the headers. Had that on my Ram, 392 Charger, and 2016 Hellcat. Have not heard it on my 2023 Hellcat!
Funny, there's a couple Napleton Dodge dealers around Orlando. I bought 2 vehicles from them.
That tick that I heard must be from your watch
I don't think that's the HEMI Tick. It might be the noisy fuel injectors that Dodge uses. At worst, it might be the annoying loose/broken exhaust manifold bolt issue. The truly bad HEMI Tick sounds much more random ..... like a golf ball bouncing around in the engine.
I don't know what I'll buy when it's time to move on from my 2015 Challenger. But - in all likelihood - it won't be a Dodge.
the fuel injectors are loud and sound very clicky.
I hear a small lifter tick very subtle
No tick, that oiling/cam eating problem was solved long time ago.
There is no tick thst I can hear the hemi ticks mostly on the 5.7.
It doesn't sound like Hemi to me. I had a 2016 Scat Pack that started ticking, and it was very noticeable. Everything was repaired under warranty, but it was about three weeks before I got the car back.
Exactly what did they fix?
@@captainamerica9353Cam and lifters
Cam and lifters@@captainamerica9353
I think it's the cam and lifter's I don't think a tick ! I have the same clip's on my trailer and they are fun !😞
Any dealership with Napleton in it I dont do bussiness with, I got burnt once by them
IMO your emissions/registration problems are reason for US Federal government/EPA to outlaw California's CARB. It sounds like CA is violating interstate commerce.
How do you get 96 month car loan
I don't hear either version of the Hemi tick(s). I hear normal valve-train noise. My 5.7L (also new...only 3500 miles so far) does that too. Here is the actual "Hemi tick" (caused by lifter/cam issues) example: ruclips.net/video/ffV25iCKp8k/видео.html
and here is the exhaust-manifold-leak tick (which is common on a lot of older engines...not just Hemis):
ruclips.net/video/3yFjGsM04m4/видео.html
They sound similar, but if you listen closely the lifter tick has a more metallic sound (and the exhaust manifold tick will usually get much quieter as the engine warms up).
lol , i got snaps by thus locks few times, ouch😪
Looking at my finances. Im glad I didnt get a Demon though. I would have found some hungry bank, and maybe somehow paid but....I know what its like with that kind of payment. Ironically, the Super Stock would have been the higher MSRP. Im not sure now...Maybe the 170 with the carbon fiber wheels might be higher MSRP but still...
I do run numbers in my head, if I could swing it or not, how many tshirts I can sell, if I can live without a kidney lol
But one thing I truly dont want to do is deal with the dealerships that have the cars. My guys (not the sales team, they are honest) but their boss was asking 100k as the fee to just sit at the table and do blind bidding.
Normal hemi sound. Good to go.
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It goes away after it warms up
Was gonna Say the no registration stuff is total BS
It passed Smog, California doesn't like out of State Purchases and makes things difficult as possible but there are ways around it.
I've Sold California Customer's and the only issue was the time of Plating is only 10 days when bought out of state vs the normal 30 to 45 days. No Need for issues like that!
Don't worry you got the warranty if not you'll get rid of you got the demon 170
RUclips soundtrack has little credibility. Far too many good/properly running cars sound like junk on youtube.
Napleton? In the StL Missouri area?
Yes
I thought so. I live in the StL area and my son works for one of their dealerships (not the one in the video and he’s not in sales).
Also, sorry…..I asked the original question before watching the full video. I normally don’t do that. I subbed to you when the Mac Haik thing broke wide open.
Btw…….small world……my younger son worked with Nate at the used car dealership that he went to. Said he was really great. There was an issue but not sure who was to blame so I’ll shut up.
OC you idling your hemi all thru podcast is eating up your cam and lifters hemis are notoriously weak oiling at idle thats why cop cars that idle eat up their hemis turn car off it's driving me nuts
For 103k, I’d be buying something else such as a CT5-V Blackwing. It’s a much nicer car.
Sounds good to me
Your car sounds completely normal to me
I don't hear a tick it sounds good to me.
Normal Hemi valve train!
Fuel injectors do that at start up
My 4Runner does it for a little bit. I’ve also heard it in dual insertion (port and direct), and the ticking is much louder.
That is no hemi tick
No Hemi Tick heard on my end!!!
You should move out of CA
My local dealer (only one in my area) hasn't pulled ANY of this crap. Sure they try maximizing if possible but dealt fairly throughout the last few years. Not all dealers are crooks. With this dealer being the only one within 150 miles he could have tried this stuff but didn't. Dodge, Ford and GM are all tied to their franchise agreements that are proving to be poorly written.
Brad, you rolled the dice to get a jailbreak. And lost. They were doing what they were supposed to on the replacement order and you backed out. Can't be to pissed at them tho. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't. Keep up the good content!
Hahaha “hey Brad we want to make this a good experience.” After being lit up on RUclips etc.
Just find a used one in Nevada or Arizona i know California is high cost of living if you really want one rates are high so maybe you lucked out
They are showing a Charger Hellcat Widebody Jailbreak on their website right now for 30,000 thousand over MSRP. Maybe not such great people after all. I live in Mo. and check St. Louis dealers pretty regular. Napleton always seemed high to me. Just sayin!!
I'm not 100% but I hear a Tick....
Especially when you pull your camera away a little bit
Leaving your Swinger outside is corroding all the under hood aluminum parts, not a good look for such a collector car
If you can't hear it in the engine bay it's an exhaust leak. That's not the hemi tic. If your good on maintaining your Dodges they'll never get the tick. It happens because lazy owners neglect them and if you do you'll end up with it. Lifter problems are known to happen to Dodges but there's always a reason.
I'm in my 70's and have bought new cars every couple of years through out. I have never liked Chrysler Dodge Corp.
I can hear a rattle... almost like a diesel
No tick...
To charge the markup was their decision. If dodge won't allocate the product, that's on dodge. You pay or not. Your decision.
Brad, two things: 1. definitely a tick, stop driving the car. 2. The dealers will tell buyers whatever they need to hear to sell a vehicle. Call them the day after you get your car home for something and it's like crickets over the phone. It is what it is 🤷🏼♂️
I have been dealing the same bullshit on trying to get a Raptor R from my local small Ford Dealer that I bought a new Raptor from in 2019. Ordered one in 22 when the books opened and the dealerships IT guy had already placed an order so I was now number two on the list for the dealership. Low and behold the dealer got one allocation and the IT guy did not take delivery and it was sold for like 50K over. My local dealership did not contact me as the back up order guy in slot 2 to ask if I wanted it....which would have been a GTFO moment. Anyway, I am still trying to by a Raptor R and every dealership wants 15-40K over and they can shove them as 24's are coming out and I hope they loose their ass on each one. Long story short not sure what the answer is but Ford is pissing this current Raptor owner off with not being able to get a Raptor R at MSRP. I don't think these manufactures Ford, Dodge, Ram and GM realize how badly they are pissing off their repeat customers! Great content and good for you on backing out!
There’s a Raptor R at Mac Haik Ford in Jackson, MS. I looked at it last week. Priced at $169,000. Was for sale.
@@michaelmangialardi631 LOL....Maybe with the storms coming through it gets flooded and they only get what they paid for it from FORD on the insurance claim! ^..^
Charging MSRP won't pay the rent!
Sounds like a diesel.
Hemi tick.
Sir put you make a video trying to slick complaint etc on how Tesla do the thing online in all ..🤦🏾♂️ See this way don’t have to deal with all the BS with makeup & you know what your price is . And for the record you can TEST DRIVE & get to know Tesla cars before you buy .🥶 just FYI. Thanks
Let me guess you got a car with bad emissions passed in California by getting a classic car license plate maybe because almost all cars with classic plates do not have smog controls on their cars
Um. No.
After the 170 bs it’s really but a bad taste in my mouth about dodge I will not be buying a hellcat sadly