EMPLOYEES AT DODGE / STELLANTIS SPEAK OUT ABOUT LAYOFFS
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2024
- In this video I share an email I got from a Dodge Stellantis employee and the comments from so many employees reacting to the layoff of 400 workers recently and why the Dodge Challenger and Charger Hemi cars are gone forever under Stellantis.
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The government pushing EVs is a huge part of the problem !!
That is the problem!
Give me 500 miles of range in cold weather at a reasonable price and I might consider an EV.
@@gobsmacked230 The cost of these vehicles and the issues are more than just range related.
Unions too.
@skipjounson7255 It's the global government agenda. The war on personal mobility.
The government needs to stay out of the auto business. Dont tell me what to buy!
Tell Joe Biden that and their Leftist NEW GREEN DEAL!
Trouble is that the Federal government has bailed them out so many times that they practically own the automakers. Also, the abuse and absolute hijacking of the interstate commerce clause has allowed the Feds to dictate almost everything inside the auto businesses. Which is why they can mandate safety features and so many other things.
If the government stayed out of the auto business, Ford would be the only US auto company left from the big three. Be careful what you wish for.
When they put Biden in office. This is what these corrupt people plan to do. CCP friends.
I wish they would the government would stay out of the "free" market in general I'm not loosing sleep because chevy an dodge would go out of business bye
There's no easy way of laying off people. I got laid off after 20 years at Comcast at 46 years old. Single dad with a mortgage. I thought I was done. Five years later Im a lot more happy. I own a small HVAC business and make quadruple the money. It will get better. But if you rely on someone else for your pay check a lay off is always possible. EVERYONE is replaceable
You figured out what you need to do to be successful in the USA. Regrettably the education system here is aimed at making employees out of students, to most people owning their own business never even crosses their mind. I have had my own business since I was 18 years old, I am now 56. My house is paid off, my cars are paid off, and I am what I would call semi-retired for the last 4 years. I still run the company website, and one of the eBay stores, but I no longer go to the warehouse and work there, in fact I moved out of the state where I have my warehouse and my business partner runs the day to day operations there.
People won't be able to hire the trades people soon. Too expensive.
@@blobmonster9494 yep, prices keep going up and up and it’s not only the lack of people in the trades but the guys going into it just don’t work like the old generation. A job that takes me a few hours by myself, my two guys will be there all day long. But when there’s a 3-4 month wait on jobs customers have no choice.
@@blobmonster9494 they can't fix it themselves either.
@@bryandevries7210 yes they can.
About time the truth is told, I will never buy an electric car.
NEVER
was told 5 years ago .. any fool knew it
Electric vehicles are a dead end. We just don't have the infrastructure. If all ICE vehicles were converted to electricity, how many hundred nuclear power stations would we have to build to supply the electrical power? Not to mention building new transmission lines. Not going to happen. It's either hydrogen or stay with oil!
Now that all the hidden disadvantages are coming out about EVs I’m so glad I held off in buying one. I’m still enthusiastic about hybrid though
@@Kevin19700 I still think Hydrogen is the way forward. There is no way we have the infrastructure in place to supply all the vehicles if all ICE vehicles were replaced by EVs. We have to build new power plants, transmission lines and local grids. It would cost an astronomical amount of money. I can't see it happening any time soon. Who would pay?
Stellantis bought dodge to sabotage it
A World Economic Forum goal probably
Honestly like these guys know they won’t win but they keep trying like they just need to get the f**k out of here.
No, John Elkann is behind the whole thing and has been since 2014
CDJR can't catch a break. Chrysler was owned by Fiat before Stellantis, which didn't do them much good in the way of quality. Fiat used them as a cash cow and cut corners to make fast money. Before them, they were owned by Daimler, and while they did actually improve the quality of the vehicles, they mismanaged the companies and made some not-so-great decisions that made them not profitable. What would be best is for someone to break them away from Stellantis in a way that the new owning company or whatever still has access to all of the tech, plants, etc., but take CDJR + Mopar in the US, Canada, and Australia in a different direction. Outside of those three countries, CDJR really doesn't have much presence compared to Fiat and some of the other brands under the umbrella, so when they make oddball decisions that hurt us in the States they don't feel it since they still sell enough vehicles even with the high prices that it's not hurting their bottom line. Them basing the Hornet on an Italian made Alfa instead of the US made Cherokee tells you all you need to know especially considering that they made Jeep drop the Cherokee due to poor sales and it ironically outsold the Hornet in its last year of production.
They certainly didn't buy it to help it succeed. Anyone that thinks so has never looked at the sticker price of the Hornet.
DODGE Needs American ownership!
Hemi engines are made in Mexico.
Yes!!
If you want to buy American. It's not Dodge hasn't been for a long time now.
Buy it
@@andrewjames1817 I wish. I would build us some Muscle Cars again.
Poor quality and high prices are a formula for failure !!
Bring back the Cordoba with corinthian leather.
@mikehernandez1191 my parents owned a Chrysler Cordoba back in the early '80's
I feel stellantis is doing these things to destroy dodge on purpose
Definitely a liberal environmental play
That's a asinine comment, zero logic.
Ok libby 😂 🤣@icehog2367
Companies don't buy companies to lose money. FCA/PSA more likely just didn't understand the US market. It would be idiotic to buy a company just to kill it.
@@icehog2367how so?
Stellantis should just put the Dodge brand up for sale rather than letting it die.
No, they want it dead.
A great point but they want to destroy it China. And European makers.
Dodge sabotageed itself by being Dodge
keep making ice v-8 vehicles
Who exactly would be interested in purchasing it?
Well when a car company is asking $200,000 for a car, better expect it to go out of business. These guys are crazy out of their mind. They would rather let the entire boat sink including laying off working rather than pricing their cars where they should be so they can sell. Typical corporate business.
Only way to save CDJR at this time is for someone to buy them back. Stellantis never had a decent plan for Chrysler...
Try to find who are the Real owners of this Company. It's it's owned by somebody in Amsterdam and someone in Britain. And probably ran by China.
Nothing to save. They’re all bastard Fiat products, like Yugo’s and Zastava’s. Nobody wants them. That’s why Fiat got them.
Nobody should be buying into Carbon Credits. All car companies should ban together and tell the government to pound sand. Let the free market ride!
I've wondered why this hasn't happened myself. Great point
Because the government is throwing a lot of money behind the scenes to manipulate these companies into going along with their agenda
The car industry like many things in this hyper inflation economy of Joe Biden's has been hijacked! EVs, ELECTRIC CARS are not wanted nor are they the answer! The NEW GREEN DEAL is a fascist LEFT viewpoint that has nothing to do with climate change! Save the ICE engine & drill baby drill!
Carbon credits are a scam so corporations can keep polluting the same as ever.
The illusion of money
I’m a Electrical engineer specialize in
EV Automobiles her in the Silicon Valley . I’m currently Unemployed and have so Since November 2022 . I’ve been Been laid off many times normally it takes about 12 months to find another position but this time it’s not looking Promising . I’ll be 60 this year and just trying to find one more job before my Retirement 🙏🏼
Evs are Not the future. Hybrids are the only way. And I started building electric cars in the 70s. I have a propulsion engineering degree. And started hand building my own EVs back in the late 70s. Hybrids are the only electrification answer. A V6 or V8 running a DC welding unit instead of a transmission. Electric drive hubs and replaceable battery units that can be swapped for different styles of batteries from glass mat to sealed acid csr batteries. It should be the consumers' choice when replacing the battery unit. Or just swapping charged battery trays. I'm a Retired Master Electrician. Certified welder. And expert on EVs and Hybrids. Stop thinking in one lane. EVs will never work. Don't be ignorant and strive for a real solution.
Congrats on being an electrical engineer.. That was my major in college and I couldn’t pass the physics class.. now I’m a plumber.. F physics. Lol
@@chriscordray8572you guys with your backgrounds could possibly find a way to convert many of these electric vehicles into diesel or gasoline electric. Not hybrid but similar to a diesel electric train which you would have a generator that could run on any type of fuel to operate the electric motors and I would think need a battery for short-term use. You could put the generator, a fuel source and a smaller battery in place of the original electric vehicle battery area. It sounds simplistic but they seem to work in locomotives and this would make use of millions of soon to be worthless vehicles that would be headed for the scrap yards.
i noticed you dont have any videos on youtube
I'm a third generation Jeep builder.. over 30 years at Jeep my dad built Jeeps and his dad built Jeeps... They are running us in the ground.
Unions have contributed to pricing going out of reach for the average JEEP enthusiast.
@@hanksta34 Nothing good ever comes out of Unions unless you are the Union head.
CEO should be fired
I feel for everyone that were laid off, I was apart of a wave of layoffs years ago. 😔
The writing was on the wall the minute they dissolved the SRT division
Chrysler was done in 1998 when it merged with Daimler-Benz to stay afloat. Since then, it has just been floundering. At that point its main reason became simply existing without vision. Garbage ever since. That was when Chrysler died.
@@shaunpcolemanthat's a complete lie. Some of the best Chrysler/Dodge models and platforms were put out under Daimler-Chrysler. The gen3 hemi is near bullet proof, the LC-LX platform is one of the best made, and the drivetrains are simply solid when Mercedes tech was being used
@@shaunpcoleman Hard disagree, since 1998 we have had the Viper, Challenger. Charger, Ram , TRX, not to mention the best selling minivan etc. They definitely thrived with FCA under Sergio despite Daimler doing its best to kill the company.
‘The writing was on the wall” since 1971.
This also reminds me of what was done to SEARS some years ago with the investment firm that bought them and then everyone noticed the service and product qaulity going down. Then they started selling off the companies realestate holdings. SEARS at the he time was the largest realestate holder in the retail space. Once that was sold off they started closing stores and cutting product within the stores. This whole stellantis issue smells of the same tactic
Eddie Lampart destroyed Sears.
The comment about thanking our govt. for this crap is absolutely right.
Our government is run by very rich Europeans and a tiny sliver of land in the Middle East. They’re currently in the process of overthrowing our country
Vote for President Trump he will save the HEMI. Or at least bring it back.
The Biden Administration is wrecking the American Auto Industry with their EV MANDATES! ELECTRIC CARS are not wanted!
@@MarioLT4 Elon is more likely to do that lol
I will never buy a stellantis product
Corporate Mafia
Look what Stellantis is doing to Jeep. They're killing great brands.... It's a damn shame
Nope, it's unions killing great brands.
@@Jay151 if by unions, you really mean government over-site with unreasonable regulations, then you'd be correct. The unions aren't going to put themselves out of work by destroying a company, but the gov't is trying to force people into EV, and those things are useless for the vast majority of the world. Trying to cooperate with those policies is what's causing the major issues today.
Most dealer's lots have a sea of blue tow hooks that no one wants!
@@zarroth tbf it’s their company they can do whatever they want as long as it’s not illegal. Let them lose billions of dollars… it’s their money.
Jeep was killed when Chrysler bought in 1987. It's been just a name plate with an ugly grill ever since.
You’re a hero! You’re giving the average person a voice! Keep it up!❤
My dad had been at Chrysler 25 years since the Daimler days... Stayed loyal. He was one of the ones let go. No warning, just kicked him to the curb. Stellantis will be a failure very soon if they aren't already. They will pay...
Really feel sorry for the people that are losing their job an their family’s future
Keep sharing until Dodge is no more. We appreciate you.
I hate to say it but it's starting to look like stellantis is well on it's way to dissolving the brand...look what GM did to Holden 5 years ago....first came the badge engineering, then came the layoffs, then came the factory closures, and then came GM announcing their shock that no one wanted their crappy badge engineered base model chevys so they dropped it entirely
‘Badge engineering?” They are all FIATS, lol.
I appreciate your truthfulness and keeping us informed, I know it's easy but thanks
Vote right on America 1st
Made in the USA is becoming misnomer. Yes the vehicles are made in the US but owned by foreign entities. Look around and one can see how much US land is owned by China.
The Hemi engine is made in Mexico
At this point companies like Subaru and BMW are American made.
🤣
made in mexiaco
Do a deep dive into the parts on an American assembled vehicle. There’s usually an 80% US parts to a 20% of the now American made vehicle. Yes, these vehicles are coming off American assembly lines, then again….
Gonna soon see what a hero UAW’s Shawn Fain is when the 40% raise happens and 40% of workers lose their jobs.
Hard to feel bad when the products being produced are so bad and unreliable. Sure there’s bad engineering going into these cars but the craftsmanship of whose building it isn’t there. How many recalls do we see that are cause by a QC issue on the assembly line. Meanwhile, Subaru, Honda and Toyota of America continuously put together better vehicles.
@@Michael-ur5qb Uh, Hondas and Toyota quality has been less than subpar last few years. So not too fast saying their the best automakers cause clearly, they're not.
So, basically a company that has no business in the US market, trying to buy their way into it rather than building out with their own brands fumbles everything they've bought and may end up gutting everything they bought into? Add in a good helping of smugness, a side of inability to design anything reliable and a 2nd course of complete lack of self awareness and here we are.
Not one of Stellantis’s 14 brands has any value.
I’d rather buy an old SRT in future and rebuild it than buy a Stellantis EV.
Yes, son. Of course.
Truly wish the best for those who got and will get laid off
I'm committed to outright avoidance at this point.
Well, that was sad. I have a 21 Jeep, That's a lease I guess I will be returning that and not getting another one, They're junk anyway. Stilantis has already ruined those. Trade in my hellcat for a Mustang, throw a super charger in it cal it a day. Replace the Jeep with a Bronco. I will not be giving salantis any more of my money. Dodge was fun while it was still Dodge. That Euro trash company will find out It's the biggest seller of Ford ever.
Chrysler & Dodge are both strong Americana automotive brands! Mopar or no car! Believe in Dodge as the current American Auto Industry has been literally HIJACKED by the current Biden Administration! The jury is out on Stellantis as it appears that the CEO believes that ELECTRIFICATION of cars is the future? It doesn't appear to be and my question is WHY is Stellantis turning a blind eye? America needs new leadership & we need to take America back! Dodge is an America icon & I would personally hate to see it die!
Stellantis is buying Carbon Credits in South America just NOT North America.
The Biden Administration won't let any manufacturers buy carbon credits in North America
My plant already lost 3rd shift a few months back, now word is we may go to one shift in October. Not looking good, damm i miss FCA
I understand. When the Soviet Union collapsed, many Yugo and Zastava workers lost their jobs and missed building bastard Fiat’s too.
It's a sad day for sure. I formerly worked for a nationwide corporate company that started out great and I loved for years. Loved my customers and working for the company. They continued to grow then I saw them become more greedy and imposing more rules , regulations, and micro managing making it harder for all of us to do our job. It became so toxic many of us left and so did the customers. It frustrates me to see this same thing to our beloved brand. I will still love the OLD mopar and continue to drive my charger proudly thinking of the past. Hope this changes but looking bleak. Thanks soo much for all the great videos. I really really enjoy them.👍🏻👍🏻
I think your coverage is great. You're telling us what's going on. If it's bad news, it's bad news. If it were good news, you'd be telling us the good news. Keep up the good work.
What a damned waste. I feel so bad for these poor people. I’ve been laid off in the past. It’s the most crushing, scariest feeling I’ve ever had. And the worst whirlwind of emotions and stress I’ve gone through outside of deaths. I hope all these people can be picked up by teams who value them without too much time unemployed.
For many years now companies stopped caring about their employees. Those days are gone and will never return.
Do you still have your Demon 170? Haven’t seen it on the channel lately.
I asked him that too. No response
Those executives at Stellantis make Bill Lumbergh and "The Bobs" look like saints. 😑 "Good luck with your layoffs! I hope your firings go well." - Peter Gibbons
Mopar more like MoFraud
I had a 94 Grand Cherokee with straight six, 96 Avenger, 2007 Grand Cherokee with straight six, 2013 200 with 3.6, love the Penastar motor.
Ford is doing something similar part time or temp employees no longer get Christian holidays off with pay unless your a minority and then you can choose. Yes this is a thing it was reported today by ford employee in Michigan
Yep, my company which makes beer bottles just got June teenth and mlk day off and they took away our Christmas shutdown. All we get is 24-25 off now instead of 24-1st
Probably due to USA business following Blackrock's ESG political agenda
my cousin got laid off :/
I was considering buying a HC Challenger since I sold my pro built Scat Challenger however I'm looking at a 2500 Power wagon I can use every day even in rain or bad weather
My heart goes out to all these poor Americans who are loosing their jobs 😭🙏
My Brother I appreciate your truthful video's, I hope you don't think poorly of me for asking for more upbeat information, I was not bashing you in any way, I was just trying to convey how I felt you were coming across, of course you are right in the vast majority of your information, the dealership are gouging its customers, I think there are lawsuits are not far of IMO, If dealerships are scheming to skirt the directions of Dodge / Stellantis there has to be law suits somewhere and I HOPE someone does sue big dealerships and sue all of them!
I DO APPRECIATE YOU OCM:)!!!
Want to make a bet? Give it a few years and Dodge will be no more. Don't believe it? Look at what all they are doing. Carbon credit is a booming business. Why do you think salvage yards are doing so good. You can buy credit from a solar business as well.
Thats for sure
Dodge is just a name. I lost respect for them when they slapped the Charger name on a 4-door.
Stellantis' problems are 3 fold. 1) They sat on their collective asses for years not developing new products. 2) They have lost customers because of iffy quality. They caved in to the UAW and are paying guys $100,000 a year to slap tires on cars. Finally, it should be noted that most of their profits come from Europe.
Stop thinking. You’re too stupid to do it.
Sorry if I missed it but do you still have the Demon 170 or did you did you trade/sell it to get the Lamborghini?
i wonder if any car company's use the block chain, what projects.
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 keep the news flying great work Brad.
Hi Brad, as always love your videos. Did they sign the email disgruntled? on a side note hows the demon, do you still have it?
My 2019 Scat Pack is a pre Stellantis build luckily. It's too bad the whole division is going down this way. These cars with the small block Hemi drive trains are amazing.
What's the benefit of pre stellantis scat pack?
The workers union did this to themselves. I’ve seen this in the aerospace industry before.
And how exactly is laying off expensive but competent workers, and replacing them with cheap unskilled labour working out for Boeing?
Soon there will only be the Uber Rich, and the desperately poor in the west if this keeps going.
@@NorthofYou1that’s the end goal and has been successful so far
Maybe if you took a second to pay attention......the 400 WHITE COLLAR workers aka NON-UNION were canned. All for workers in India to replace them.
These were engineers not union assembly workers
Two distinct classes is the goal.. the ultra rich and the ultra poor. The overlords and owners want feudalism.@@NorthofYou1
@@NorthofYou1haha and what happens when you pay your employees more? The price of the product increases, this last contract added $1000 per vehicle across the board. How many vehicles are being sold right now? Just because the UAW is dumb enough to push their greed onto the OEM dealers, doesn’t mean the public is willing to pay for it. How many $50k plus vehicles are sitting on dealer lots across the country? Most vehicles have over a year’s worth, and the OEMs want to keep making more. The problem is greed at every single layer. Even people like myself that are in the 0.1% are saying enough is enough. At the current price there is no value.
Nothing more than poor management. Building over priced gas guzzlers, carrying a 20 year old truck beside the new ones and nothing smaller or fuel efficient in the pipe line. Mercedes raped Dodge and now Stellantis is having its turn
Why does Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge keep getting bought and sold? What am I missing? You don't see Ford or GM in this position. From Daimler to Fiat now Stellantis.
Just found out that one of the fired engineers was a former supervisor of mine from 30 years ago, that had taken a step down about 25 years ago to work as a powertrain calibration engineer. A 40 year stellar Chrysler career thrown away. Really infuriating. I’ve been a loyal Chrysler customer for 38 years, after a great 20 year engineering career there. No more.
The government needs to classify all stallantis vehicles as import vehicles a tariff them as such
Look who is in the White House. You think that is really going to happen?
@@jago668 he won't be there for ever
And you UAW endorsed who?
That’ll help.
Do you still have the Demon 170? We never see it on the channel.
Every time that i fall in love .....
Love You DODGE 😢❤
I am a technician at a dodge,Ram,jeep dealer and we just had to install a new lift and we are seeing the new tools for the EV's that are coming. I will be going for training in a few months. Here it comes like it or not.
Thank you for your service!
They are going to sit unused because the consumer is flat out REFUSING to buy EVs.
if the government wants to drive a company out of business then force them to buy phony carbon credits from their competitor..
Brad, this is very sad. I really am feeling it for these people and their families. We as Dodge lovers and supporters losing our beloved cars is one thing. These people losing their jobs and income to support themselves and their families is something completely different, and much more important and meaningful. I wish all of them all of the best. This is probably going to happen to many more American businesses as we move forward. Foreign corporations purchasing iconic and more grassroot American businesses and then tearing them apart as well as layoff countess numbers of employees to maximize profits. They don’t know America nor do they care. This is our sobering reality.
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I think the markups have played a major role in why the cars are not being sold
Remember: when your neighbor is laid off it's a recession; when you're laid off it's a depression.
It is Diamler-Chrysler all over again, but worse. FCA was a good deal, and I was working as a technician during those years. Shortly after Stellantis happened, bad things started from the top down.
Is there a way to file a petition on saving the Hemi?🤔
One AMC sold it went went downhill
I remember when GE purchased a French Compsny the contries terms of condition on layoff and plant closing were rediculous. Made it not worth laying them off. Why do we deal with foreign countries like this?😢
So sad. I have a railroad job I’m kinda in the same boat, last huge wave of layoffs like 5 years ago i just survived. Love my job and what i do but always in the back of my mind that any day they can close up shop or just wipe out a whole bunch of people to make a few bucks on the stocks.
you’ve spoken to Tim? Could you provide more details?
America needs American ownership
I'm sticking with the simplest ICE vehicle I can get. And I'm planning to drive my 2001 & my 2002 plastic Saturns for as long as I possibly can !!!
I have 3 Dodge Ram Jeep products, 3500 dually, Challenger, Jeep Wrangler and love them all. It's sad to hear this happening to what used to be a great company. The French really know how to destroy what was something great. I guess Chevy and Ford are looking better all the time.
America needs to buy their Sh^t Back !
These dealers should all be looking to move their franchises to another manufacturer - then tell Stellantis that they won't accept any new vehicles.
It's not that easy. Most dealerships have non-compete clauses when it comes to other brands for new car sales
Dealers are not taking their allocations of slow selling models - 4xe Wranglers and Grand Cherokees, Wagoneers, and everybody's favorite POS, the Hornet. No plans to take any electric Chargers or Rams, but we suspect they will just show up ordered or not.
It's because of the historically horrible contract we passed this is exactly what the contract spelled out
How's that union deal working now?
Wake up man....the union leaders were paid off to sell their members down the river!
This same thing happened back in the 1970s to the UK auto industry!
Who is responsible..? The COMMUNISTS aka globalists/NW0
Service training will be one of the first to go . They will reduce instuctors and training centers. Then who is going to train the techs ?
The new Durango is just a grand wagoneer. 😂😂😂 Stellantis is straight 🚮
EVs are not for me, how about thee?
I three do not like EV, you see 😢
All of this is so sad 😢
Consumers have been slapped in the face with very shady stealership practices and bad products. Public has lost confidence
Won't buy any of their products but I wouldn't anyway.
After all these issues mentioned, I an wondering what is going to happen with the assembly line and all the tools in Brampton?
Somebody could buy that stuff, set up a production somewhere🤷♂
Right now, it's being regulated to extinction. That's the goal. Stay tuned.
I agree with ya......it's so outta control now. Hope the big boys like the taste of metal, plastic, and rubber, cause they've buttered their bread. One more reason to keep to our business American. Hope you all have a blessed Easter.
Where I worked was bought out by another company. The upper management all got huge payouts, so they had incentive to sell. Immediately they started selling off our divisions and assets. They laid off people then merged us with another company. It was a total mess, and still is. That’s when I sold my Challenger because I was worried they would lay me off too.
If your company gets bought out, get your resume ready. 📃
It used to be you would order a performance car, then go to the parts counter to get the good parts to install. They could do this again, buy the base engine and a bolt in hemi V8 and trans. from the parts desk. Including installation the price out the door should be about the same.
Arcline did that with my company omega
Dodge is the new plymouth!! Its going down
What year did they buy dodge?
Hey, OCM….I agree with you in regard to Tim’s situation…he probably doesn’t have a choice….not at that level…😎⚓️
I don't have a problem with electric per se' but I do have a big problem with government forcing this expensive boondoggle for a problem that doesn't exist. For most people, electric isn't practical, myself included.
Folks, the aftermarket for older cars, especially older pony/muscle cars has never been stronger. It is time to do the "built not bought" thing. If you want Bluetooth, a touchscreen, and a back up camera the aftermarket has you covered. Want a 700 HP supercharged V8? Aftermarket has you covered. For half of what you're paying for new car, you can have a unique muscle car that can do everything, if not more than these.
Be honest Joey, ANY classic car of notoriety in good shape is a 6 figure car, and updating them to a retro classic is not an inexpensive endeavor, then there is finding a good shop out of the hundreds of scam shops, and lastly..there the headache of constantly fixing things which all classic cars will deal with. This is not a cheap or easier option by any stretch.
@ekahab I never said classic. I said older. At 18 I bought a 77 Camaro for $500 and did a lot of work myself and was very happy for what I got for about 10k. I could never dream of doing that again. If you shop around you can find anything that's 15 years old or older for under $15k in decent shape and with $20-$25k create a dream ride. People do it all the time. Hell, you can find 10+ year old Challengers for under 20k. So yes, I was being honest.
@@joeydelgado6119 Fair enough, although a 77' is very much a classic. I too built a 64 impala, a 66 AMC rambler and a 71' Chevelle back in the 90's, but none of it was cheap or easy was the only point I was trying to make. It is an option, but only if you have the knowledge, tools, time and most importantly motivation and passion to see the project through. We both know how many projects get started and never finished with older cars. Just stuff I think anyone thinking about buying an older car needs to know.
@ekahab I can definitely agree with that. But nowadays I'm seeing people buy a brand new or almost new vehicle and rolling it into a shop and dumping another 20 grand in mods to make it "their" ride. I've got my eye on a low mile late 90s stock Camaro Z28 that is not moving and last I checked it was under $10k. Me, I'd buy it and leave it stock except for sound. But, if anyone had a $20k dollar hole burning in their pocket, they could have a monster for under $30k and that's with a shop doing the work.