Stellantis fires 2900 unionised staff in Italy & America in a group video call

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  • Stellantis fires 2900 unionised staff in Italy & America in a group video call
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Комментарии • 248

  • @joergmaass
    @joergmaass Месяц назад +72

    Being a union member does not mean that you have a safe job, it means that you have support fighting for your rights and support your fellow worker fighting for his. It is called solidarity.

    • @DevonHensley211
      @DevonHensley211 Месяц назад

      It also means you are giving $$$ to UNION people - and many of them dont give a FUCK about you.

    • @davidlloyd1526
      @davidlloyd1526 Месяц назад +9

      I find it's normally done by coercion. You can't have a career without joining.

    • @muskrat3291
      @muskrat3291 Месяц назад +8

      LOL No, it's all about collecting monthly dues.

    • @linusmayden8465
      @linusmayden8465 Месяц назад

      Or maybe unions are very diverse across multiple spectrums, I know they work pretty good in Nordic countries and in Huawei, the employees owned their shares through the union. But yes, I've heard unions in Anglo countries are bad.​@@muskrat3291

    • @joergmaass
      @joergmaass Месяц назад +7

      @@davidlloyd1526 The situation in Europe is totally different than in the US, apparently. Nonetheless, you should show solidarity with your fellow workers, and that’s what union membership is all about.

  • @Kithara111
    @Kithara111 Месяц назад +17

    No one ever said that corporations have any sympathy for or loyalty to their workers.

  • @stevehofer3482
    @stevehofer3482 Месяц назад +40

    When you go get laid off in a unionized job you generally get important severance pay. That can be crucial.

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Месяц назад

      Yep been made redundant twice in my working life and the payouts have gone some way to meaning that I no longer have to work.
      All those that don't like Unions can take part in the race to the bottom.

    • @davidlloyd1526
      @davidlloyd1526 Месяц назад +2

      Not more than legal minimum.

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Месяц назад +3

      @@davidlloyd1526 Depends on what your agreement says.
      We got way more than minimum legislated amounts.

    • @muskrat3291
      @muskrat3291 Месяц назад +1

      You get severance pay in non-union jobs too. I worked a non-union job for a company that was bought by another company and got severance, yet I was still doing the same job for the new owners. A couple of years later that company sold my division to another company and I got another severance check and again I was still doing the same after the split. Then several years later the third owners outsourced my department and again I another severance check and I was picked up by the outsource company to do the same job.

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Месяц назад

      @@muskrat3291 Here in Australia non Union members doing the same jobs get the same benefits and there are Govt. mandated minimums in most states as well.
      It isn't the individual being made redundant it's the job.
      Big variations in payouts depending on what's going on.

  • @Paul-ow9dd
    @Paul-ow9dd Месяц назад +15

    Sometimes unions can “forget” about the individual member with issues, and be more interested in bigger issues affecting the collective. Happened to me a few decades ago. But I’d rather be in a union than not in a union. But sure some unions are better than others. And in the past ( here in Australia) some unions have acted like thugs. Thankfully that’s largely a thing of the past.

  • @ValentinArzola
    @ValentinArzola Месяц назад +29

    Salaried Engineers and Managers have never been Unionized. These people are the loyal companymen, non Unionized employees that were fired.

    • @stevehofer3482
      @stevehofer3482 Месяц назад +5

      In a lot of countries engineers are unionized. A small percentage of US engineers are unionized.

    • @Ludak021
      @Ludak021 Месяц назад +1

      The point here, I think, is that even if they were in the union it wouldn't matter. And it didn't.

  • @stefanhallin
    @stefanhallin Месяц назад +27

    By doing it through a zoom call, the fired people are not gathered to talk to each other and potentially make a mass protest.

    • @Ludak021
      @Ludak021 Месяц назад

      And what would the protest change? Bunch of laid off people protesting the factory that is closing anyway. Their bargaining power is?! Their time would be better spent looking for a job.

    • @Artoootube
      @Artoootube Месяц назад

      Imagine having 2900 meetings scheduled when you can have 1 😅

    • @eile4219
      @eile4219 Месяц назад +1

      It's just faster this way. people want to work remotely because it's can get more work done right? but doesn't want to get fire remotely?

    • @voramuj
      @voramuj Месяц назад

      Absolutely true.

    • @IceAce1
      @IceAce1 25 дней назад

      I know a case where a group lay off was not only done in an online group meeting, but with a prerecorded message. So, basically a rehearsed and endorsed by HR lawyers message and no opportunity for interactive communication.

  • @mcZED38
    @mcZED38 Месяц назад +6

    Umm...isn't the problem low cost, low regulated off shore labour? Perhaps a video about that? Also engineers and those on salary are not typically union members.
    But hey the vehicle cost is going to be reduced to reflect the lower labour input cost, right? Right?

  • @dgrv
    @dgrv Месяц назад +3

    Speaking from France, it feels like in whole areas of the Anglo-Saxon world, you have so few protections for workers that a lot of you can’t even imagine a world where people, everybody, have more rights.
    Ultra-rich people and companies have been lobbying forever to make regular people believe that Unions are bad. It is quite appalling to me, since there are quite a few studies about this that show a connexion between Unions and better work rights.
    Otherwise, Amazon and other big companies wouldn’t fight unionization with every legal and illegal means they can think of.

  • @debeeriz
    @debeeriz Месяц назад +12

    british rail train drivers would disagree with that, any time there is a hint at getting rid of staff they shut the rail system down and cripple the country, a strong union in an essential industry lets the workers make the rules

    • @Longtack55
      @Longtack55 Месяц назад

      and the coal miners strikes of the 70s and 80s were a roaring success, Arthur Scargill didn't rob the union, and Britain was better-off.

    • @mukamuka0
      @mukamuka0 Месяц назад +2

      Very different situational. UAW can go on shutdown factory but that's only benefit the competitors who didn't Unionize

    • @Ludak021
      @Ludak021 Месяц назад +2

      Because they have bargaining power and there is no alternative to what they do, yet. Once there is, it will be very different. Alternative being, robots can do their jobs, they are just not cheaper than human workers, yet.

    • @richardwalsh1838
      @richardwalsh1838 Месяц назад

      Unionised train drivers will be replaced by automated systems in the not too distant future, and train driver stricks will be a thing of the past, otherwise you are looking at a banana republic run by monkeys!

    • @wisedesi442
      @wisedesi442 Месяц назад

      Because it is monopoly eventually it can become unprofitable compared to road transport and shutdown.

  • @Pro1er
    @Pro1er Месяц назад +14

    Me and my entire family worked for the UAW in Detroit, I no longer support them because they got too greedy for a non-skilled, high school education line job. Their new contract was not a win, it was their jobs being moved out of the country or to future robots. Even Jim Farley (Ford CEO), said that after this last contract he would have to look at sending jobs to Mexico. If I were a UAW factory worker today, I wouldn't be making any large purchases. People are fed-up with paying $80,000 for a pickup truck or $60,000 for a sedan.
    PS, Sam, it is becoming common place to fire people on a Zoom call here in the States. There was a report about that on the radio just the other day. I'm wondering if is for their own safety because people have become so unhinged anymore.

    • @mukamuka0
      @mukamuka0 Месяц назад

      I had a feeling UAW leader these time don't have much intelligent...They don't quite understand current market downturn situation.

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Месяц назад

      They got hijacked you mean

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Месяц назад

      ​@@mukamuka0could a market downturn not be a reflection of weakening consumer spending power, poverty, and a market that has become too upmarket and expensive because no automaker wants to sell low margin cars like the Ford Fiesta?

    • @willdoe7681
      @willdoe7681 Месяц назад

      If you don't like being treated like a disposable pos we will just ship your job off to a country that doesn't care about people, in an endless race to the bottom where workers are slaves to the 1%. Of course Sam Evans doesn't give a shit. He isn't a worker.

    • @icosthop9998
      @icosthop9998 Месяц назад

      ​@@tellucasTrue

  • @davidlloyd1526
    @davidlloyd1526 Месяц назад +4

    I suspect that staff at a well run companies probably don't feel the need to join unions...

  • @toddwheeler1526
    @toddwheeler1526 21 день назад +2

    Shouldn't be a surprise that companies do such things when they fire people. Decades of business experience clearly shows that they save millions by minimizing the sabotage that occurs by soon to be former employee's.

  • @ekimbrough1413
    @ekimbrough1413 22 дня назад

    Totally agree with you E Viking!

  • @hendrikbarboritsch7003
    @hendrikbarboritsch7003 Месяц назад +7

    Seems to me unions can be helpful, but only if they are not corrupt.

  • @linoiovenitti7207
    @linoiovenitti7207 Месяц назад +11

    Hi Sam, the Fiat 500 e is actually a good electric vehicle. With lots of good reviews. I noticed that women like it, in reviews, and at the EV show.
    But not when it costs approx $60,000 AUD. That is stupid.

    • @leerizer
      @leerizer Месяц назад

      Buy Ora Good cat

    • @timothykeith1367
      @timothykeith1367 Месяц назад +3

      The standard Fiat 500 was better than the general opinion, but it's target is an urban city car. The U.S. 38 mpg highway rating can be matched by larger cars. Tiny cars with no crumple zones are basically armored to add safety. The Mexican built U.S. 500 was 200 pounds heavier than the EU version, which is popular in cities with narrow 500 year old streets - it didn't fit the U.S. market. Now, the cancelled 500s is a cheap used car in the U.S. It has some issues, which are mostly inexpensive to DIY repair, but in 2024 a shop repair might be spendy. The heavier weight of the U.S. spec 500 meant that the turbocharged Abarth version is slower than most late model minivans. The safety regulations make subcompact cars unattractive by removing the fun, the high rear bodywork is a safety feature that restricts rear visibility requiring cameras to back up in a parking lot.
      The electric 500 might be decent, but the price will cause many to look at a larger Tesla Model 3.

    • @DeRhamme
      @DeRhamme Месяц назад +2

      I had a 2013 500e and yes, it's a good car, but sold it when I moved to Hawaii

    • @icosthop9998
      @icosthop9998 Месяц назад

      ​@DeRhamme what are you driving now ?

    • @DeRhamme
      @DeRhamme Месяц назад

      @@icosthop9998 I may get a Used 2017 Chevrolet Bolt

  • @MarkSpohr
    @MarkSpohr Месяц назад +18

    Capitalists are fighting back at the serfs

  • @jamesrose1191
    @jamesrose1191 Месяц назад +2

    Union makes it so you work at your lowest productivity. You don’t want to work faster or harder than the person next to you. When they fire people they fire in mass for the company best interests . 2:25

  • @danielscarel1018
    @danielscarel1018 Месяц назад +2

    Meanwhile stellantis CEO doubled his salary

  • @leiflillandt1488
    @leiflillandt1488 Месяц назад +2

    I think, when a big company in Sweden reduce the number of employees at a reasonable rate, they can do it by lowering the pension age! People get simply offers that they can't resist!
    In a big company it means a lot if the pension age is reduced from 65 to 62 years old!
    Nowadays also some people are hired for a certain time, and these contracts aren't renewed, and then some people are working for a company that offers job somewhere else.
    It's when the staff is reduced to half in small towns you have big problems. In most places in Europe you don't have 100 or even 50 km to next "village".
    And, as the Danish guy says, if you earn 20 euro/hour even at McDonald's it doesn't matter where you work for a short period of time. It's when you have to go down from 20 to 10 euro you get in trouble.

  • @johnmightymole2284
    @johnmightymole2284 Месяц назад +2

    Of course the corporations don't care about their workers. That's why we need unions but of course the influence of unions is limited.

  • @PeterTerren
    @PeterTerren Месяц назад +2

    Firing is almost alway sudden and they are told to leave immediately to avoid aggression, emotional scenes or sabotage of gear/computers etc

  • @toxic.lobster
    @toxic.lobster Месяц назад +33

    Unions care about union dues

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Месяц назад +2

      With that attitude should you be surprised that Canada is in shambles?

    • @thomasreilly6362
      @thomasreilly6362 Месяц назад +4

      Unions protect workers from exploitation. The can not stop companies from relocated to cheaper markets. There is a difference..

    • @linusmayden8465
      @linusmayden8465 Месяц назад

      ​@@thomasreilly6362Not in America and Canada they don't.

    • @PTRNovi
      @PTRNovi Месяц назад

      A note for anyone reading:
      Union dues are tax deductable.

    • @thomasreilly6362
      @thomasreilly6362 Месяц назад

      @@linusmayden8465 Yes the do. The US auto union UAW won a big pay rise for it members this year

  • @voramuj
    @voramuj Месяц назад

    Wow, I have no words to express my feelings.

  • @charrin9086
    @charrin9086 Месяц назад +2

    Look to see tens of thousands of salaried engineers being reduced out due to the switch to EV. Look at how many jobs are phased out when ICE engine design/development/foundry/machining work is eliminated...same goes for the transmissions.
    A big if could also be in play- if giga castings become the norm, then a lot more jobs are reduced out in the stamped parts area of the vehicle. And yes, there are a lot of hourly positions that would be eliminated here as well....the next union contract will be the most contentious one.......

  • @uncomplicatedi
    @uncomplicatedi Месяц назад +3

    The anti-union bias is pretty strong on electric Viking. I know everything is video fodder but some of the details make me think this wasn't union related at all as many of these workers were non union.

  • @Jeffgarmon-ji5iu
    @Jeffgarmon-ji5iu Месяц назад

    Thanks!

  • @christianchristensen4291
    @christianchristensen4291 Месяц назад +18

    Try that in Denmark, because off the union we have a minimum pay off 20 € pr hour even in McDonald’s, cleaning and so on.
    So you dont no what you are saying.
    If they do that here it Will cost alot off money fore the Company.
    It is so that the lov Income people also Can have a chance to have a good life.
    In germany they have no money for the lov income people, its about 10 € per hour you cant live on that salery😵‍💫

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Месяц назад +3

      Thanks a mil for being a voice of reason

    • @linusmayden8465
      @linusmayden8465 Месяц назад

      That's because American unions don't have a pro-worker party or movement, they got dismantled, in Denmark collective bargaining is respected because of the Social-Democrats who did their job to make sure businesses didn't squash them. American, British and Australian unions have a horrible track record. In China there is only one official union with links to the CPC but they do look out for the interest of the majority, in Huawei's case the ownership of their employees is represented by that union.

    • @havencat9337
      @havencat9337 Месяц назад

      well said! i also confirm this!

    • @flexcheckXYZ
      @flexcheckXYZ Месяц назад +1

      Sam was talking about America. But you are mentioning Denmark and you are saying he does not know what he is talking about?

    • @kipper2k
      @kipper2k Месяц назад

      increase the pay and increase the cost of living, it all balances at a certain level

  • @papasquat355
    @papasquat355 Месяц назад +1

    It feels a bit like 2007

  • @douglasvoncannon3073
    @douglasvoncannon3073 Месяц назад +1

    What is going on in the automotive industry now reminds me of telecomm in 1990"s. Eventually, after consolidation, buy outs, etc., There will be 3-4 mega companies. The rest will fade away into the ether.

  • @Aryan-xv5or
    @Aryan-xv5or Месяц назад +3

    It feels like deja vu . Europe used to be the leader in mobile phone and then got killed by the chinese and america managed to get some companies to survive it seems a decade later we will find hard to see logos of VW , BMW , mercedes

  • @vlhc4642
    @vlhc4642 Месяц назад

    The issue is actually value, but management only knows cost and the workers don't know how to increase value, so here we are.

  • @michaelsmith9308
    @michaelsmith9308 21 день назад

    Finally, we WILL see prices fall to half MSRP this YEAR:) Already some gladiators are 19,000 BELOW MSRP-FINALLY!

  • @beautifulgirl219
    @beautifulgirl219 Месяц назад +1

    Marginally cheaper foreign products aren't attractive when you are fired and your job is moved overseas. Some of those subsidized industries produce products that aren't even less expensive by the time they are shipped around the world, assuming they get past Yemen's Iran-aligned Houthi militants on ships in the Red Sea and don't encounter a temporarily closed canal or port.

  • @petterbirgersson4489
    @petterbirgersson4489 Месяц назад +2

    Unions are advantageous but they have to cooperate more internationally. Furthermore, we need to invest more in adult education and midlife skill retraining. People CAN'T be treated like a mere means of production, a cog in the wheel of the industry. It's unworthy!

  • @richardcardwell6266
    @richardcardwell6266 Месяц назад

    What you forgot to say is none of the employees fired were non union in the US. Also they just hired 4100 new employees in Detroit.

  • @trainspotting_and_tech2023
    @trainspotting_and_tech2023 Месяц назад +9

    The Electric Viking or "When you love renewables & EVs, but can't let go of neoliberalism"!

  • @markmiller8903
    @markmiller8903 Месяц назад

    So glad to see TSLA stock headed lower.

  • @mikafiltenborg7572
    @mikafiltenborg7572 Месяц назад +1

    Tesla's competition is coming All over them self 😂

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 Месяц назад

    Remote layoffs reduces chances of work place violence

  • @atypocrat1779
    @atypocrat1779 Месяц назад

    Wonder if ChatGPT will want union representation.

  • @SaintKristofer
    @SaintKristofer Месяц назад

    The non-union workers cannot even afford the vehicles they make. What do you suggest would be a better solution?

  • @richardwalsh1838
    @richardwalsh1838 Месяц назад

    If large numbers of people get fired from their job then there will be far fewer people to buy ev's and sales of ev's will go down.

  • @keithwillis3761
    @keithwillis3761 Месяц назад +11

    China attracts western companies to make profit from low wages and yes government subsidies. Most think only the Chinese companies are getting subsidies but many of the western companies moving operations there also get it. Because of China's superior supply chain, logistics and cost to operations there, almost every western company will move their operations to China. Capitalism and democracy are two seperate things.

    • @linoiovenitti7207
      @linoiovenitti7207 Месяц назад

      They are already there, and losing production and profit. The legacy auto companies will partner with existing Chinese EV car manufacturers.
      And still struggle to survive.

    • @mefobills279
      @mefobills279 Месяц назад +1

      Finance capitalism and parliamentary democracy co-evolved/invented near Amsterdam btwn 1700 and 1900. This included the first stock owned banks and corporate citizens. China is industrial capitalist which was invented in the Colonies. The founders thought democracy was the worst form of government.

    • @keithwillis3761
      @keithwillis3761 Месяц назад

      @@linoiovenitti7207 Ya I think you are right there.

    • @KevinDaken
      @KevinDaken Месяц назад

      Then along came the Houthis and ruined that party :)

    • @Teabahgeue
      @Teabahgeue Месяц назад

      The cost for labor in China is now the highest in the world. The only reason business is still being done in China is because of the sunken cost fallacy of the factories set up there. The CCP is not a healthy business partner.

  • @uncomplicatedi
    @uncomplicatedi Месяц назад +1

    Your job isn't safe but it will certainly be safer to work there + you won't be underpaid to do it.

  • @chrisgray4239
    @chrisgray4239 Месяц назад +1

    We need our stable Unions, not radicalised unions...you just have to find the ones that are stable.

  • @thomasclaesson1631
    @thomasclaesson1631 Месяц назад +1

    Sam, the neocon!

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey Месяц назад

    If you get fired the way you get revenge is go to work for the competition and do amazing work there.

  • @randomoldbloke
    @randomoldbloke Месяц назад +10

    What have unions done , 4weeks holidays, job site safety, fair wages , 8 hour day , overtime pay rates ect ect

    • @leiflillandt1488
      @leiflillandt1488 Месяц назад

      Not four weeks of vacation, five weeks, sometimes six or seven weeks, or you work two weeks and are two weeks off.

  • @neildolan7177
    @neildolan7177 Месяц назад

    What is a good way to be fired?

  • @ateist
    @ateist Месяц назад

    No job is guaranteed, what is protected is your compensation. Just like management is protected. Professionals have unions, they just aren't called unions.

  • @pakcanhunter
    @pakcanhunter 19 дней назад

    its too expensive to do business in the US and not to even mention canada.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

    Morning mate

  • @citris1
    @citris1 Месяц назад

    With the introduction of robots there will be no use for the average human.

  • @oldbloke204
    @oldbloke204 Месяц назад +2

    Stupid thing about comments like these is that even if you don't want to be in a Union in this country you're still getting the benefits that Unions have fought for over the years.
    Whilst pontificating on it all how do you think that we have all the benefits we enjoy here whilst buying stuff cheaper from other countries where workers get way less or have worse conditions of employment.
    People really are rather dim and short sighted imo.
    Oh well enjoy the race to the bottom people as my Union benefits whilst working and a nice juicy payout when made redundant mean I no longer have to work and haven't for a few years.
    Even whilst I'm not working our Union Superannuation is growing faster than we're spending money.

  • @iany2448
    @iany2448 Месяц назад

    Stellantis' layoff is to balance the extra cost they have to pay for last year's new union contract. I knew somebody who was non-union member got laid off because of this shortly after the new contract was reached.

  • @noctylight
    @noctylight 27 дней назад

    I seems like Stellantis did the "Animal Slaughter Plan” movement to the workers they played off.

  • @tumentumengoosh5178
    @tumentumengoosh5178 Месяц назад

    They should contact Fisker and make Europe stronger again in car industry!

  • @contraplano3157
    @contraplano3157 Месяц назад +1

    That is not true. Unions as a propose, to protect workers, make pressure in governent, and inform the workers for their rights.
    When it is to fire every body they might receive more money. Without unions we were like in the time of Ford T.

  • @user-ng2rx4qc8o
    @user-ng2rx4qc8o 17 дней назад

    those automaking companies that are union should have to pay union dues to the UAW for EACH robot they put in..they are replacing union jobs with robots so they should have to pay a penalty to the union for each one, then the money goes to the other union members.

  • @garyclack3807
    @garyclack3807 Месяц назад

    The UAW just got to Greedy

  • @Longtack55
    @Longtack55 Месяц назад +5

    Unionised workforces generally negotiate better redundancy agreements.

  • @neildolan7177
    @neildolan7177 Месяц назад

    Unions are there to improve safely. Without unions there is no safety.

  • @donkeykong516
    @donkeykong516 Месяц назад

    In unions, your job is secured if jobs are available

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

    Electric Trucks Tow 500mi Over The Rocky Mountains! Cybertruck vs Lightning vs Silverado EV vs R1T
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  • @paullynass4848
    @paullynass4848 Месяц назад

    Np one says that Sam

  • @mnhsty
    @mnhsty Месяц назад +1

    At least in the US, the job market is pretty good. The only problem is, people may have to move to another state and start all over again with government benefits, etc.

    • @bubuneowoo6161
      @bubuneowoo6161 Месяц назад

      You have no idea the number of these guys who will be divorced. In Michigan 90% of men are married to stay-at-home wives!

  • @dennistyler9852
    @dennistyler9852 5 дней назад

    Unions can and do protect workers but you also can get sold out by your Leadership…

  • @Ludak021
    @Ludak021 Месяц назад

    Unionizing is literally, among other things, creating a looming threat over the head of the employer that you will block the thing that makes your job possible. It used to be about improving conditions which was slowly adding costs but making condition fair. It's not about that for a long time.

  • @seokjin3000
    @seokjin3000 Месяц назад +4

    Fiat is manufacturing in Serbia starting late this year.

  • @DaGoat97
    @DaGoat97 Месяц назад +1

    Just wait until the used car market continues to crash for electric cars due to a flood of new and gently used cars. When you can get a Model 3 for less than a Corolla with less miles now the ICE companies have a problem. More ICE customers experiencing an ev

  • @randomgoogler1398
    @randomgoogler1398 Месяц назад

    Kinda sounds like a "bloodbath" brewing up.

  • @edlovio
    @edlovio Месяц назад

    Can they sell in China and India too?
    Time will show

  • @ranjusranjus143
    @ranjusranjus143 Месяц назад +1

    China ceased being a low cost labour country several years ago

    • @eman67rp
      @eman67rp Месяц назад

      They still save money, though medical , subs. and taxes

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

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  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 Месяц назад +6

    Unions do protect jobs, when other Unions support them. It won’t be long before the Unions that run the ports in Europe will start to blockade Chinese imports, surprised it hasn’t happened already.

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Месяц назад

      It would be bizarre for unions and the EPP to be in the same boat

  • @donkeykong8792
    @donkeykong8792 Месяц назад +1

    Union or not, it really doesn't matter. For every worker you hire in the west, you can hire about five equivalent workers (probably harder working and less BS) in the global south for the same salary. They used to get away with it because Western car companies are far more technologically advanced, so people don't have a choice. When it comes to EVs, where everyone is on a level playing field, of course all the factories have to move.

  • @eish3291
    @eish3291 Месяц назад

    This move shows that nobody can manufacture at a lower cost per unit than China.

  • @Harrybollox
    @Harrybollox Месяц назад +3

    Unions do a great job of getting better salaries and conditions for workers in return for reducing the longevity of those jobs .

  • @boballen9095
    @boballen9095 Месяц назад +1

    Sam, your closing words "If you are not disrupting someone else, you are being disrupted." are so necessary for so many to hear. This ain't your daddy's rodeo, which may explain why people feel like they've just got kicked in the head.
    ruclips.net/video/paEHwSn8MXo/видео.html

  • @kipper2k
    @kipper2k Месяц назад

    so much for their pay raise, victims of their own actions

  • @Mantaracer
    @Mantaracer Месяц назад

    Unions doesn't prevent layoffs but do protect the rights of workers from abuse by companies!👍

  • @georgesvak5332
    @georgesvak5332 Месяц назад +4

    We all just numbers to the corporations. Corporations won't care even if you have been with them 30 years, when the time comes they will let you go.

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Месяц назад

      Yep happened to us in spite of being profitable.
      It's a dog eat dog world so unless you want to go hungry you will need some way to negotiate and level the playing field.
      Few people question the obscene increases we've seen in CEO and senior management remunerations over the years but if people mention Unions so many start to cry about it all.

  • @charleslindsay3201
    @charleslindsay3201 27 дней назад

    the union guarantees that the worst workers can't be fired--deadwood forever,and "grievances"forever...

  • @thomasclaesson1631
    @thomasclaesson1631 Месяц назад +1

    Sam, what about slavery? Cutting costs! Cheap EVs…

  • @creeper098
    @creeper098 Месяц назад +2

    Near shoring -- a business strategy that involves companies shifting their manufacturing and production operations closer to their main markets, allowing them to reduce transportation costs and deliver their products faster to customers.

  • @NoGods999
    @NoGods999 Месяц назад

    Getting fired means that the individual loses their job because they have been performing poorly. Getting laid off means the person loses their job through no fault of their own. Were all those employees goofing off on the job or were they laid off because they were no longer needed?

  • @joedavis403
    @joedavis403 Месяц назад +5

    Maybe you should stick to reporting on electric vehicles because your stance on workers rights and unions is short-sided and quite stupid.

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Месяц назад +1

      It's self harming as well

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Месяц назад

      Agree entirely on this one but at least he's consistently inaccurate I guess imo.

    • @linusmayden8465
      @linusmayden8465 Месяц назад

      He's not wrong though, unions in Anglo countries have a horrible reputation of being almost useless.

    • @oldbloke204
      @oldbloke204 Месяц назад

      @@linusmayden8465 Unions are only as good as there members so if people don't join and pay then they're nothing.
      I only ever joined a Union once and very thankful that I did.

  • @gabrielback5615
    @gabrielback5615 Месяц назад

    People forget, the ONLY reason for a company to exist, is to make sufficient money to be worthwhile. If Stellantis isn't making enough to pay the shareholders what they want, the only solutions are to raise prices or cut costs. Its business and has nothing to do with caring for employees.

  • @foolishEmporer
    @foolishEmporer Месяц назад

    Those workers would have fired, regardless of their status as union members. The union just fights for benefits. The benefits they gained last year were because they were unionized.

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis4401 Месяц назад

    Teachers unions work.

  • @mattbba8451
    @mattbba8451 Месяц назад

    Yahahah people can be ignorant and slightly less agile in the mental department. But we have to protect them some how. We have to take them with us somehow.

  • @manwingchi9156
    @manwingchi9156 Месяц назад +2

    Why blame China and other countries when cost is important. 😂😂😂I surely if you own a company, you will think about cost. So stop blaming other countries

  • @Thunderrolls87
    @Thunderrolls87 Месяц назад

    Still better off in union then not as a working person.

  • @NiejakiDD
    @NiejakiDD Месяц назад

    Sad story but this was coming for long time - the advancement gap between the West and the rest of the world, notably China (but not only) has shrunk. It's time to make room for new big players and scale down. There is no way out.

  • @ChrisMan-pk4bl
    @ChrisMan-pk4bl Месяц назад

    All of the Major car companies will be doing the same...outsourcing their cars thru China..this is an important part of the EV push,, and China knows this and has been preparing..
    This is what happens when gvts mandate changes...

  • @Mark-hj3rp
    @Mark-hj3rp Месяц назад

    A great deal of the benefits that employees take for granted were fought for and won by unions. Employers are only really interested in profit, always have been, always will be and ideally would have employees work for free, with zero benefits. Only actually paying you the least they can get away with. It swings both ways, but a good employer has nothing to fear from a good union.

  • @jasoningram9928
    @jasoningram9928 Месяц назад +1

    Unions, LoL!
    Unions in the long run, are only good for Unions.

  • @outkast40
    @outkast40 Месяц назад

    Ford will kick it's Unskilled Auto Workers to the curb as well. Support Auto technicians that do the real work.

  • @mirkovalli1397
    @mirkovalli1397 Месяц назад

    What’s more is that Stellantis CEO asked the Italian government more funds or he’ll move the production abroad. Over the last decades Italy has given around 250B euro to Fiat automotive of people’s money in order to keep the production going. At the same time our “Union” is completely absent, useless. No one in Italy is happy with Stellantis, the Elkann family destroyed the Italian automotive industry. I feel sorry for the thousands of employees

  • @zes7215
    @zes7215 Месяц назад

    not