You need to put it on a Hagerty agreed value policy - then you can insure it for over MSRP & if it gets totaled they give you the amount you insured it for.
I have Hagerty and they still didn't want to insure it for more than MSRP, actually they would insure it for what I paid but not for what it would take to replace it.
The missing fender in front looks better to me. Its what separates the original demon and the 170. If i saw a demon hood with a narrow front on the road I could tell easily it would be a 170 from looking at it in the front
Hey Brad, in the spirit of your vid, I just wanted to share some praise and feedback with you regarding your channel and content...here are my 5 Things... 1. Thanks for never click baiting! Your titles are always spot on with your content. JSL has lost his way, unfortunately. 2. Thanks for putting the timestamps on your vids. I never use them as I enjoy your vids from A to Z, but it shows you care about ALL of your subs. 3. I think your "5 Things" vids are great. I can never ignore those...like a moth to a flame! 4. I hope you do more "special guests" vids...I was pleasantly surprised to see Vehicle Virgins 5. Thanks for your transparency. I think that is one of the things that separates you from the pack and will no doubt push you to 100K subs and that first plaque.
The Dodge/SRT engineers that built the original Demon and the new Demon 170 hate the fact that the heavy 19 speaker Harmon kardon sound systems, leather seats, and sunroofs are even available options for these cars... these guys went above and beyond to take weight out of these cars wherever possible within the constraints of their budget. They removed sound deadening material, trunk carpet, passenger seats, widebody flares, offered carbon wheels, and smaller lighter brakes... all of this weight reduction just for buyers to add most of the luxury amenities like leather seats, 19 speaker Harman Kardon sound systems, and sunroofs right back in! They built us a drag car, so leave it a drag car! If it was up to the Dodge/SRT engineers, every Demon 170 would have been built with one cloth seat!
@stevesmith6236 the beats by dre sound system and subwoofer came stock in my Charger RT. They made them for chargers 2012-2019. Look up the picture. It's a small subwoofer. Not a giant early 2000's Rockford Fosgate subwoofer. I'm not worried about weight in a RT or Scat Pack.
I love the look of the Demon ! The side/rear view around the 23 minute mark is just awesome, it looks like a sinister monster awaiting its next victim. It's a purpose built street legal drag car, and it looks it , it's perfect as it is ! I remember when everyone had the staggered tire look on their cars in the 70's, it was a great look, although many just did it for the "scare factor ". lol
Have you noticed that inside the inner headlights there is different emblems in them .there pretty sweet but it would be sweeter if they projected onto anything that you pulled up to. Keep up the great work and God Bless you and your family. 😊👍🫶🙏🏼
I completely understand about how odd it looks with a narrow front and Widebody rear. But like Queen sang Fat Bottom Girls Make The Rockin’ World Go Round. Mmmmm, LOL 😂
Can you please tell us about the security measures you’re taking or installing onto your Demon 170 and Swinger? What products do you use to keep your cars looking and running good? Also, what factory and aftermarket options are you installing or contemplating installing on your cars?
I rarely park my Scatpack in dicey areas but if need to for even 15 minutes I put the system in "storage mode" and no electronic devices can take it over. I even have to use the key (in the back of the fob) to open the door.
@@bailey9r I ve used the the storage mode for the winter last here in Idaho. But never thought of using when parking it at a store. That is an awesome idea. Thanks for the tip.
i think once you track it a bit it’s gonna stick more, i would go with a set of used widebody wheels to hot swap for seasonal driving, like many have previously said the narrow front and wide ass is the og muscle body 😢
There are sites that sell oem wheels you could buy a 20 x 9 wheel and put on a 275/40r20 tire on the front and put a 20 x 11 rear wheel with a 315/35r20 tire that would be more streetable and save you money in the long run for street cruzin
Couldn’t you put factory hellcat narrow body 20” wheels in the front and 20” hellcat widebody wheels in the rear with some really sticky tires for daily driving?
When I was looking at the 1320, I realized the first thing I was going to have to do was buy a new set of all season tires. I’m pretty sure you can switch the back end tires from your scat to the demon…
Question when you open the doors on the Demon do the windows go down half an inch ? When you are shutting the doors and they are not closing correctly it might be your window activators are not working and opening the windows that half inch to make them close properly ? Try it and let me know . 😂
Did u check if ur window is opening a hair on the 170? Thats the reason for it ,wen windows are all up there's more pressure so wen u see the window drop a fraction its for closing the door easier
Brad, I have a 2015 RT with the Shaker and my doors do the same thing as your 170. Not sure why some Challengers doors shut like mine and your 170 and the others shut like your Scat.
Are you guys determined to stay in the OC? I ask because Temecula would be perfect for you. You can get a lot of house and even property here. For 1.5 you can get a great house here.
Doors just need adjustment...otherwise a great vehicle....but i love my 19 challenger hellcat redeye narrow body.....especially for the price i paid a few years ago😊
Agreed we r part of the family, & i wish u nothing but the best. 🙂.......& As a part of the family i gotta say u need to get rid of that yellow car.....😂......✌️
I think the door issue has to do with the hinge not being properly adjusted. A shim or two should fix the problem. If it doesn't fix it, I would wonder what else they didn't do properly when building the car. It is pretty pathetic Dodge didn't correct this before delivery.
Remember the people building the cars are now laid off...They probably didnt put the most care into them,but I hope my new 2023 Challenger is good though :)
I've owned both. Sold my BMW to buy the Pan Am and have not been disappointed. BMW has some annoying traits that you did not hit on which have plagued the bike for years. Overall though, I thought your review was well done. The Pan Am is not perfect but neither was the BMW. I'm at 7500 miles now with zero issues. Overall what has impressed me most about the Pan Am is its ability to chew up miles without effort. What impressed me the least about the Pan Am and something Harley really needs to address is the size and placement of the rear tail light. Small and hard to see with full bags on the bike. Borderline dangerous. I rigged aftermarket LED's on my tail box to help with that. Otherwise, good scoot. 14 Reply
Yeah I got a buddy of mine just let you know he's got a 2023 yanko Camaro he buys those and has factory that builds him his license and everything but I think he's being that it's the last 2023 I don't think you'll get rid of it I don't think Mark will get rid of his car
My 2023 R/T takes a firm push or pull to close. I feel bad becim not trying to be roungh on a new car, but i guess thats a Last Call quirk potentially. 😅
I'm also in SoCal and in the same situation. Any decent house around here is 1.2 million, so I just bought 1.5 acres and I'm building a house with a really nice shop. I'll be in for a million once everything is finished. As far as the car, if I'm paying 150k plus for a car, you're going to know it's an exotic car. No way in hell I'm spending that kind of money on something that could be mistaken by an average person for a 30k 6 cylinder model. If my car costs 200k, there will be nobody mistaking it for a 30k 6 cylinder 😅. I was shopping for a c8 corvette, but decided to pick up a professionally built Shelby Cobra replica instead. The car is like driving nothing else ive ever driven. Insanely fun
Bought because you can. Status symbol only is what the car is if you don't race. Redeye has the better look just because of the duel snorkel hood. Need to black out the aluminum behind the grill
#7: It's automatic, lol. I've got to stop with that, I sound like a Tesla fan. But MOD2Fame proved you can get a manual transmission to handle the power, and win. Good luck with home shopping, at least you have some toys to help relieve the stress. How about a reverse Cannon Ball in the Demon170?
Since the Demon is built for drag racing, Dodge tried to save weight wherever they could. I'm thinking that the Demon doors are lighter, thus less mass in motion to shut the door. So more effort is needed.
Does the window open a crack like your shaker does? Maybe it's hitting the gasket instead of clearing. I couldn't see it open in the video@@ocmotivator
I have to say it. In my opinion when parked next to each other the Swinger looks better. It's not the color. It's the Shaker and the front fender flares. Mostly the Shaker. Just saying.
I have the Shaker, and the hood is literally my favorite part of the car. I've even researched trying to install a Hellcat motor with the Shaker intact.
Sorry but I just have to disagree with the complaint about the track oriented tires and wheels on a track oriented car, I mean come on, someone that can afford D170 can surely afford a second set wheels and tires for everyday street driving, am I right? I myself could only afford a used Scat Pack but I still have 3 1/2 sets of tires and wheels for it.
My 23 Challenger ScatPack did the same thing your 170 does when you shut the door. You really have to give it a good shove for the door to close all the way. I thought they were all like that. I think Dodges quality control has gone out the window for 2023 and I’m not exactly sure why that is.
Yeah really sucks for the group of people that have big monthly payments just to sit in the garage and not able to drive the Demon 170 as daily. Because the Demon 170 was made for drag strip weapon only.
I love my hellcat. You are correct the Demon 170 wasn't meant to be a street car, but it was purpose built for the track. GREAT that you have two, your swinger for the street, and the Demon 170 for the track. I still wish they had the Demon Hood as an option for the hellcat. I like the single big scoop instead of the snots.
yea the skinny front is ugly as can be, almost looks like a base car. True car enthusiasts will see the beauty in this car, it just won't be a head turner on the road. Love your videos keep up the great content!!!
I know on my 2016 challenger the windows come down a little when you open the door then go back up after the door closes. I assume to release the air pressure. Maybe yours does this but maybe I'm not seeing it in the video.
If you watch Scavenger1320's video "How I mic'd up the exhaust..." (vILFpbpFzkg), he shows you the pressure relief vent in the trunk that he uses to put his microphone under the rear bumper to record the exhaust. I bet yours is stuck closed.
I don’t even valet the scat pack, much less a Demon 170. All I can picture is those videos of those valets abusing vehicles like in Ferris Bueller‘s day off. You are 100% correct Brad, when it comes to the Performance page is not loading quickly. It takes an eternity for them to load. Oddly enough the C7 Corvette has a temperature sensor for the tires. Indicating on your instrument cluster when the tires are warm. Although it does not tell you the exact temperature of the tires. The demon crate. With the drag wheels and accessories. They could have made the front fender flares removable with plugs when you go into the drags trip.
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You need to put it on a Hagerty agreed value policy - then you can insure it for over MSRP & if it gets totaled they give you the amount you insured it for.
I have Hagerty and they still didn't want to insure it for more than MSRP, actually they would insure it for what I paid but not for what it would take to replace it.
Hey, OCM…I really appreciate the way you’ve opened up your life with us…and hope for the best for you and your family.🙏🏾😎⚓️
The missing fender in front looks better to me. Its what separates the original demon and the 170. If i saw a demon hood with a narrow front on the road I could tell easily it would be a 170 from looking at it in the front
Awesome Video & explanations of differences between cars . Thanks
Thanks for Sharing
Hey Brad, in the spirit of your vid, I just wanted to share some praise and feedback with you regarding your channel and content...here are my 5 Things...
1. Thanks for never click baiting! Your titles are always spot on with your content. JSL has lost his way, unfortunately.
2. Thanks for putting the timestamps on your vids. I never use them as I enjoy your vids from A to Z, but it shows you care about ALL of your subs.
3. I think your "5 Things" vids are great. I can never ignore those...like a moth to a flame!
4. I hope you do more "special guests" vids...I was pleasantly surprised to see Vehicle Virgins
5. Thanks for your transparency. I think that is one of the things that separates you from the pack and will no doubt push you to 100K subs and that first plaque.
Awesome Video! Parker Looks Good. Great to see you guys together!
I have been a subscriber since when you first bought your Redeye. I love your videos man, keep doing you and enjoying life!
OC great video. Congrats on looking for a new house, great times ahead!
Great job Brad.
I appreciate you Brad. 👊🏻🏁
The Dodge/SRT engineers that built the original Demon and the new Demon 170 hate the fact that the heavy 19 speaker Harmon kardon sound systems, leather seats, and sunroofs are even available options for these cars... these guys went above and beyond to take weight out of these cars wherever possible within the constraints of their budget. They removed sound deadening material, trunk carpet, passenger seats, widebody flares, offered carbon wheels, and smaller lighter brakes... all of this weight reduction just for buyers to add most of the luxury amenities like leather seats, 19 speaker Harman Kardon sound systems, and sunroofs right back in! They built us a drag car, so leave it a drag car! If it was up to the Dodge/SRT engineers, every Demon 170 would have been built with one cloth seat!
YESSSSRRR. From the Canadian pit bull..TRUTH@@stevesmith6236
@@stevesmith6236 Alpine in my 2023 Scat is decent. But, the Beats by Dre and subwoofer in my 2017 RT sounded better.
@stevesmith6236 the beats by dre sound system and subwoofer came stock in my Charger RT. They made them for chargers 2012-2019. Look up the picture. It's a small subwoofer. Not a giant early 2000's Rockford Fosgate subwoofer. I'm not worried about weight in a RT or Scat Pack.
A plaid has all of the basics...
I agree. It's a beauty!
Awesome Brad. Once again. 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I love the look of the Demon ! The side/rear view around the 23 minute mark is just awesome, it looks like a sinister monster awaiting its next victim. It's a purpose built street legal drag car, and it looks it , it's perfect as it is ! I remember when everyone had the staggered tire look on their cars in the 70's, it was a great look, although many just did it for the "scare factor ". lol
Good video, thx sir
Have you noticed that inside the inner headlights there is different emblems in them .there pretty sweet but it would be sweeter if they projected onto anything that you pulled up to. Keep up the great work and God Bless you and your family. 😊👍🫶🙏🏼
I completely understand about how odd it looks with a narrow front and Widebody rear. But like Queen sang Fat Bottom Girls Make The Rockin’ World Go Round. Mmmmm, LOL 😂
I like your idea better (smaller house/dedicated shop). Best of luck and happiness either way.
First! Love your Demon as well!
The door issue I believe is a dodge quality control issue. My 2022 Durango RT has the same problem
Can you please tell us about the security measures you’re taking or installing onto your Demon 170 and Swinger? What products do you use to keep your cars looking and running good? Also, what factory and aftermarket options are you installing or contemplating installing on your cars?
I rarely park my Scatpack in dicey areas but if need to for even 15 minutes I put the system in "storage mode" and no electronic devices can take it over. I even have to use the key (in the back of the fob) to open the door.
@@bailey9r I ve used the the storage mode for the winter last here in Idaho. But never thought of using when parking it at a store. That is an awesome idea. Thanks for the tip.
i think once you track it a bit it’s gonna stick more, i would go with a set of used widebody wheels to hot swap for seasonal driving, like many have previously said the narrow front and wide ass is the og muscle body 😢
Cool 😎!
Did you ever bring your Prius to the track?
Have you thought about removing the rear wheel flares on the back as a possible solution? Just a random thought is all!
Did Dodge do anything like subframe connectors or extra beef in the rockers to keep these cars from twisting up the body ?
There are sites that sell oem wheels you could buy a 20 x 9 wheel and put on a 275/40r20 tire on the front and put a 20 x 11 rear wheel with a 315/35r20 tire that would be more streetable and save you money in the long run for street cruzin
Couldn’t you put factory hellcat narrow body 20” wheels in the front and 20” hellcat widebody wheels in the rear with some really sticky tires for daily driving?
Your driveway looks awesome sir.
When I was looking at the 1320, I realized the first thing I was going to have to do was buy a new set of all season tires. I’m pretty sure you can switch the back end tires from your scat to the demon…
My last call Scat pack has the same door closing issue ......
Question when you open the doors on the Demon do the windows go down half an inch ? When you are shutting the doors and they are not closing correctly it might be your window activators are not working and opening the windows that half inch to make them close properly ? Try it and let me know . 😂
Small body looks outstanding!
Kool video GREAT information on the 170.Thanks...CHEERS FROM YOUR FRIEND AND FAN THE CANADIAN PIT BULL AND CANADA 🇨🇦 👍 HEY TK SAYS HI BROTHER. CHEERS
How much did you pay for the stinger if you don’t mind me asking?
Did u check if ur window is opening a hair on the 170? Thats the reason for it ,wen windows are all up there's more pressure so wen u see the window drop a fraction its for closing the door easier
Mine does the same thing with the door.
Brad, I have a 2015 RT with the Shaker and my doors do the same thing as your 170. Not sure why some Challengers doors shut like mine and your 170 and the others shut like your Scat.
Your scat pack and old hellcat had the same issues no tire temperature gauges
That’s what my challenger Scatpack does also, I really gotta slam the door for it to fully close 😢
Same
Same
Same on my 2017 SRT392
OC the haters are going to hate regardless
Are you guys determined to stay in the OC? I ask because Temecula would be perfect for you. You can get a lot of house and even property here. For 1.5 you can get a great house here.
Doors just need adjustment...otherwise a great vehicle....but i love my 19 challenger hellcat redeye narrow body.....especially for the price i paid a few years ago😊
Agreed we r part of the family, & i wish u nothing but the best. 🙂.......& As a part of the family i gotta say u need to get rid of that yellow car.....😂......✌️
what’s weird is my scatpack doors closed perfect , my redeye doors do that exact thing
Move to Kentucky, you can get a mansion for half that and it was only minus 3 degrees wind chill yesterday😂
OC - What is your long term goal for your Demon 170? Investment? Family heirloom? Drag at the track? I am just curious.
I have no long term goal with any car. I enjoy them until I’m done enjoying them or find something else to enjoy.
Awesome - Thank you for the response brother. Great perspective....@@ocmotivator
My 23 scat does the same thing with the door
I think the door issue has to do with the hinge not being properly adjusted. A shim or two should fix the problem. If it doesn't fix it, I would wonder what else they didn't do properly when building the car. It is pretty pathetic Dodge didn't correct this before delivery.
Narrow in the front and wide at the back looks great period 👍
Embarrassing for Dogge to have door shutting issues in a 100k plus vehicle.
Remember the people building the cars are now laid off...They probably didnt put the most care into them,but I hope my new 2023 Challenger is good though :)
I've owned both. Sold my BMW to buy the Pan Am and have not been disappointed. BMW has some annoying traits that you did not hit on which have plagued the bike for years. Overall though, I thought your review was well done. The Pan Am is not perfect but neither was the BMW. I'm at 7500 miles now with zero issues. Overall what has impressed me most about the Pan Am is its ability to chew up miles without effort. What impressed me the least about the Pan Am and something Harley really needs to address is the size and placement of the rear tail light. Small and hard to see with full bags on the bike. Borderline dangerous. I rigged aftermarket LED's on my tail box to help with that. Otherwise, good scoot.
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Yeah I got a buddy of mine just let you know he's got a 2023 yanko Camaro he buys those and has factory that builds him his license and everything but I think he's being that it's the last 2023 I don't think you'll get rid of it I don't think Mark will get rid of his car
My 2023 R/T takes a firm push or pull to close. I feel bad becim not trying to be roungh on a new car, but i guess thats a Last Call quirk potentially. 😅
I'm also in SoCal and in the same situation. Any decent house around here is 1.2 million, so I just bought 1.5 acres and I'm building a house with a really nice shop. I'll be in for a million once everything is finished.
As far as the car, if I'm paying 150k plus for a car, you're going to know it's an exotic car. No way in hell I'm spending that kind of money on something that could be mistaken by an average person for a 30k 6 cylinder model. If my car costs 200k, there will be nobody mistaking it for a 30k 6 cylinder 😅. I was shopping for a c8 corvette, but decided to pick up a professionally built Shelby Cobra replica instead. The car is like driving nothing else ive ever driven. Insanely fun
It’s a nice car to see just not seeing it worth having TO ME but it’s a really nice car
Bought because you can. Status symbol only is what the car is if you don't race. Redeye has the better look just because of the duel snorkel hood.
Need to black out the aluminum behind the grill
I don't know how to do that.
I would llike to talk
Those door panel gaps are ridiculous!
#7: It's automatic, lol. I've got to stop with that, I sound like a Tesla fan. But MOD2Fame proved you can get a manual transmission to handle the power, and win. Good luck with home shopping, at least you have some toys to help relieve the stress. How about a reverse Cannon Ball in the Demon170?
I like the small house and large shop idea.
Please…Got to get that garage cleaned up to a standard worthy of those great machines!
I definitely feel you on the swinger looking Way better.
Since the Demon is built for drag racing, Dodge tried to save weight wherever they could.
I'm thinking that the Demon doors are lighter, thus less mass in motion to shut the door.
So more effort is needed.
No. Like I said, some demons don’t do that. I met a guy at cars and coffee and he’s closes easily. Strange.
I think I would take it to dealer and get the doors adjusted. Try that with door windows down see if it does same thing. Seals why I say that.
Does the window open a crack like your shaker does? Maybe it's hitting the gasket instead of clearing. I couldn't see it open in the video@@ocmotivator
@@ocmotivator Man that sucks you got a Defective Demon 170 😂 you should of kept the Redeye!
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I have to say it. In my opinion when parked next to each other the Swinger looks better. It's not the color. It's the Shaker and the front fender flares. Mostly the Shaker. Just saying.
Don’t tell anyone I said this. But I agree 👍
I have the Shaker, and the hood is literally my favorite part of the car. I've even researched trying to install a Hellcat motor with the Shaker intact.
You bought a drag car get over it and tell the wife and daughter NO.
More traction then thought means it has some .
Sorry but I just have to disagree with the complaint about the track oriented tires and wheels on a track oriented car, I mean come on, someone that can afford D170 can surely afford a second set wheels and tires for everyday street driving, am I right? I myself could only afford a used Scat Pack but I still have 3 1/2 sets of tires and wheels for it.
Holy shit thing sounds like it has a HVAC for a radiator
I prefer the skinny front and widebody rear. Old school which is where these cars originated. Widebody all around is a chunky looking car.
My 23 Challenger ScatPack did the same thing your 170 does when you shut the door. You really have to give it a good shove for the door to close all the way. I thought they were all like that. I think Dodges quality control has gone out the window for 2023 and I’m not exactly sure why that is.
About that will thing. Make sure you don’t misspell my name! lol
I vote hang out shop. Homes are overrated. Lol😂
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Yeah really sucks for the group of people that have big monthly payments just to sit in the garage and not able to drive the Demon 170 as daily. Because the Demon 170 was made for drag strip weapon only.
Swinger does look way better , that i agree. 170 looks bland on video . Ominous at best . I would like a day glo color and shakers do look cool .
I love my hellcat. You are correct the Demon 170 wasn't meant to be a street car, but it was purpose built for the track. GREAT that you have two, your swinger for the street, and the Demon 170 for the track. I still wish they had the Demon Hood as an option for the hellcat. I like the single big scoop instead of the snots.
This is a cool car, but I have no regrets buying my NB M6 SP. Love your content and GL with all your life stuff!
200 thousand lawn ornament love the scat
We're all dying to see the fastest car in the world do a Street 0 - 60 with a Dragy
I would be more than happy with a slime body original Hellcat Bone Stock.
Get a hidden hitch on the
Lime scatpack, buy a car trailer, put the 170 on It, & take It to the track. SP PULLING A 170, THAT WOULD BE COOL.
The door on my 1320 does the same thing as your Demon
I agree with all 5 things Brad. I’ll keep my Black Scat Pack Challenger Widebody. #5 is my 1st of the 5. Thanks for sharing. I love your videos.
Put new wide fenders on it😂
yea the skinny front is ugly as can be, almost looks like a base car. True car enthusiasts will see the beauty in this car, it just won't be a head turner on the road. Love your videos keep up the great content!!!
CJ ON 32 HIS 170 DOORS DO THE SAME THING
Try closing the door with the window down .if its fine its the weather strip if no it the door alignment . Quality control at the plant..
Personally I’m not a big fan of the 170. That stinger however is baddd in a good way.
The door hinges need to be adjusted on the demon 170, Definitely a build quality issue smh!!!
I really miss my 2019 Scat Pack wide body
The most annoying thing I hate about my Demon 170 is the 149mhp governor and being lied to
9:56 where he starts talking about the 5 things.
I know on my 2016 challenger the windows come down a little when you open the door then go back up after the door closes. I assume to release the air pressure. Maybe yours does this but maybe I'm not seeing it in the video.
If you watch Scavenger1320's video "How I mic'd up the exhaust..." (vILFpbpFzkg), he shows you the pressure relief vent in the trunk that he uses to put his microphone under the rear bumper to record the exhaust. I bet yours is stuck closed.
Tesla Plaid also a race car then, but you can drive your kids to school and get groceries,...low cost to operate
I don’t even valet the scat pack, much less a Demon 170. All I can picture is those videos of those valets abusing vehicles like in Ferris Bueller‘s day off. You are 100% correct Brad, when it comes to the Performance page is not loading quickly. It takes an eternity for them to load. Oddly enough the C7 Corvette has a temperature sensor for the tires. Indicating on your instrument cluster when the tires are warm. Although it does not tell you the exact temperature of the tires. The demon crate. With the drag wheels and accessories. They could have made the front fender flares removable with plugs when you go into the drags trip.
So you’re not going grocery shopping in it?
the doors on the Demon not closing after a slight push, prolly a good thing. most likely has a better seal around the doors
Hmmm. Good point actually. It does sound and feel very solid once closed.