This is the absolute BEST small PC case we have tested yet...
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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The number of times I’ve yelled, to myself, “Damnit [case manufacturer] if only you added just one frickin millimeter”
‘To my grandmother’s.’👒👑👢👡👠👟👞
or you may fall and break the😸😺💩🤖👾👽👻
I believe, too, that you do🥪🌭🍕🍟🍔🥓🍗
Welp, you got botted 😐
I was always yelling that. When I made my first custom case it was exactly 103 cm long. I was short 1.5mm for a fitting between front radiator housing and hard disk cage...
Hey Jay, they make thin 120 MM fans. This is a perfect use case (pun intended) for it.
I was thinking the same. I'm sure he knows lol.
@@RhoadsChristopher my nr200 has non slim fans and it still fits (2 slot gpu)
Exactly this
@@RhoadsChristopher lol... Exactly what I was going to say... He's a tech guy building PCs, swearing on camera, and getting paid to say "I LIKE BOATS!!!" every day, sometimes multiple times, so I'm sure that he knows about slim fans... Heck, I'll bet if there are any slimmer fans than that he's probably used them
@@northwiebesick7136 he used regular fans to test it
"so easy to build in a kid can do it" would be a great entry point for people hesitant to try SFF
Nr200p has had me looking at them and sfx psus for months now. Today, I've finally been convinced to sell of my mobo, case, fans, psu and cooler. I'm making the switch. This thing looks incredible
With exception to people with big hands like me. I've only done one SFF build thankfully, and doubt I ever will again.
You know Jay hasn't watched any Optimum Tech when he is surprised that a FTW3 card fits in an SFF case. You can fit even bigger cards in the OG NR200 case with the horizontal orientation. Also there are sooooooo many SFF cases that can fit full size gpus nowadays. It's fun seeing the guy who makes the heaviest, biggest PCs around start to realize the appeal of SFF.
For anymore considering buying that case: I've installed 2 slim 140mm intakes at the bottom. I'm running a 5600x (undervolted) and a 3080 (strix) in there with the glass panel. Nothing throttles, the GPU doesn't get hotter than 77°C. Without the fans, shit gets a bit toasty tho, so I would recommend to DEFINITELY install slim fans at the bottom.
This was the comment I was seeking. Thanks for sharing.
I own the regular NR200 and it's honestly been my favorite case so far. I can happily fit a 10900k and a 3090 with zero issues at all and temps are phenomenal.
Air cooled ot water cooled?
@@humambawazier9608 240 aio for cpu side mounted and gpu is air cooled.
@@senseofpermanence Cool. Thanks bruh 👌
"Send all your hatemail..." I was dying.
I feel like everyone is sending emails to it as we speak
@@kesha4380 I want to send an email with subject "hate mail" but just tell him I
😈
“Dear Jay, I wrote to you but, you still ain’t calling.”.
@@PopTickles You're stealing my thunder
15:20 "The two fans are going to do a good job of pulling the hate out." Jay, you have a 3090, there will always be haters. It's just how it is.
the house, and thought🧗♀️🤹♀️🤹♂️🤺🤾♀️🤾♂️🤽♀️
I have a cooler master LAN box. Being able to unscrew every panel and work from ever angle is an awesome feature, so the screws on that case instead of rivets is a plus for me.
I have the non max version and it came in clutch when i was trying to fit an ROG Strix in it by basically removing all of the bottom frame.
"I love my kid, but I don't know how much." - Jay 2021
But seriously, this looks like an awesome case. I do like SFF cases due to them being easier to fit on my workspace. Currently have an NZXT H210 for my rig, but I might consider getting this one when I build a new rig. Great video!
He says that with those 2 rigs on the bench behind him.
was about to leave the exact same comment lol
I’ve got a NR200P and I can say it’s a cinch to build in
Nr200p
I have the original NR200 and it's genuinely my favorite case I've ever seen or built in. I love the layout on mine. I don't remember what you said about the original regarding layout but for me it was perfect. 280 rad and fans on the side (intake - mb temps are fine with the warm, not hot, air blowing towards the motherboard) and two exhaust fans on the top, ROG Strix 3090 in the bottom. Everything stays very well cooled and there's no vast empty space in the build. I hate empty space in computer builds.
got any cable routing tips as I got one but I used an atx psu
17:13 "I love my kid.... but i don't know HOW MUCH" holy shit, that is a bold quote
😆😆😆 lol'ed so hard when i heard this.
@@petterderter6354 when did i say "god" u mad ? xd
@@petterderter6354 shut up
This case looks fantastic, I can’t imagine anybody being grumpy with this purchase.
Imagine no further. No top/front panel UCB-C, just like its predecessors. It's the only reason why I didn't choose those, and will be the only reason why I don't choose this one. Still, super-nice case if that isn't a deal breaker.
@@Craig-ib7gkso have to Dremel one in then I guess zzz. Such a ball ache
No horizontal position for the GPU, while the non MAX version does have it AND vertical GPU position too. The SFF community has been asking for a way to put a radiator on the top for a while and they missed it. It could have been a perfect dual rad itx case.
@@LogicalHardware i crammed a thin 240 rad on top but it was a royal pita along with a bottom rad
@@althalus_5298 I know, and tried some mods with 3d printed tophats but not the same. Cooler Master had the chance to do a Ghost S1 with dual hats but for a fraction of the cost and... well, underdelivered.
I really like that SFF PCs have become more and more mainstream. It means we get options from the larger case manufacturers that don't cost $300-$500.
I have a 4 slot RTX 3080 in this case & a AIO for my CPU. My max temperature under full load is 75 degrees celsius for my gpu and 56 degrees celsius for my i7-9700f! I definitely recommend this case!
The amount of space it manages to have for a GPU is nuts. I know a handful of people that bought or wanted to buy a 3090 with mid-tower or bigger cases but couldn't fit them. To cram it into this sff case is wild
Wow! There were so much innovations put into this case. A collection of preferred side panels in the box, a pre installed AIO, a pre installed psu, and a minimalistic design. I would definitely dig this case. 👏
'InNoVaTiOnS'
If you bought the older nr200p, its already provide 2 side panels and a vga riser also Lol
"Hey look, it's like a little door that pivots!" *warning label says 'red x' for pivoting*
You can actually use 2 120mm fans in the bottom, and 1 92 mm in the back, it's a really cool case
"the colored version ... is only available with the old edition"
my thoughts exactly!!!
it's great they changed the location of the power adapter from the top to bottom to accommodate the aio, but I would really like my GPU placed horizontally rather than vertically using the riser. i think that would really help with the cooling.
"it's rigid, I thought it was gonna be flexy".
That's what she said!
The real question is: why was she expected it to be flexy?
@@bofasofa9399 Age does things...
Well I guess she’s rather impressed!
“Skunkworks Moray” and “Skunkworks Minnow” could be his next builds.
airbrushed explosions on the chassis
And in Case something borks the new System: Other-Mini-Jay proudly presents the next episode of "Dad! Fix It!" - brought to you by Jay and iFixit! *Splosions*
Perfect idea for this case, love it.
When Zen four's out the door,
Graphics cards back in store
SKUNKWORKS MORAY
When Zen four's out the door,
Graphics cards back in store
SKUNKWORKS MORAY
I'm so glad that you're making a video of this wonderful ITX case! I've heard nothing but good things and I'm planning to build two builds with this.
I have this case and use as my motion sim racing rig PC - it's a great case - runs great with a 10th gen core i7 and a RTX3070 card with room for a big 240 radiator. I like this case. I have the radiator on the side and the RTX mounted at the bottom pulling air up through the bottom of the case.
If the audience only knew that case name was short for:
Cooler Master Masterbox NR200P MAX 100% Super-Mega-good-time large modular small-form-factor case 100%
"One would be better than nothing." Everyone still looking for a modern GPU agrees.
"Just bake your GPU in the oven..."
Hey, I've done that several times before. GTX 8800M back when it was the hottest mobile GPU on the market. Only problem was it was too hot and the solder wouldn't hold. It was a design flaw and baking it could get it to work again, but only temporarily. My killer $3,000 gaming laptop was basically a brick a little over a year later.
@Ellipsys0303 I've also had it go the other way. The LG G4 phone had a similar design flaw, only instead of baking, you would freeze the phone to get it working again. At least working long enough to back everything up.
@Ellipsys0303 no, because I couldn't disassemble the phone to safely do it.
Jay, I absolutely love this case, I’ve got an older nr200 with a full custom loop dual radiator setup and it’s amazing. For the size this case can fit so much hardware. One thing I don’t understand is why they would take out the horizontal gpu mount on this max version.
It really is a great case. It has went up 30 bucks tho. Got mine back for 99 when first dropped. Love the case. I sold my ncase m1 to save some money. Lil bigger but has great features. Only shitty thing is my second 1 didn't have the best qc. The first was perfect.
I can't imagine anything more appropriate than a T-shirt that's sold out, as commentary on how PC hardware is all sold out.
Respect for the fact they actually located their AIO rad at the top of the case, which is a damn site better than the options they gave builders with the predecessors (side-mount at best, floor mount at absolute worst).
I have my 'old' NR200P with a sidemounted 240mm pureloop cooler. Has the pump in the cooler lines, not in the block. So no issues. 3080 horizontal mount pulling in fresh air from the bottom. The previous iteration was already pretty good if you keep the basics in mind.
I also had the pureloop bottom mounted even and it ran fine as the fans act as intake for airflow from the bottom to the top. The downside is that the pump kind of limits my clearance for the sidemounted gpu so I'm glad they put the rad mount at the top this time
I have a 280mm Arctic on the side of my NR200P, with plenty of room to route everything and have great cable management. I have been trying to get more people to check these cases out. They are really great.
Lol my luck. I LITERALLY just finished modding the hell out of my NR200P tonight for a custom triple radiator setup and it was the hardest build ever. That hinging rear panel alone would have made it so much easier…
yo drop imgr link! that sounds sick
Same I recently did a dual 280 slim rad build with hard pipes in the NR200P, then I see this case 🥲
This channel won’t allow links, but the Imgur gallery URL is “sMKAMs0” Strix x570, Ryzen 9 5900x, MSI 3080, 32gb 3600 ram. Still trying to get the EK cpu block RGB to come on, think I may have to send it back for a new one.
When Jay said "That's rigid", I thought Phill would answer "That's what she said!"
And actually, it’s what YOU said.
@@globalist1990 nope. That's what SHE said.
Finally a SFF that ticks all the boxes indeed..
Could be my first build where i would not have to dremel stuff.
Can't wait for GN to implement the "blow through the mesh with your lungs" test for airflow!
Prefer the original NR200 personally. For me the selling point is being able to build without the need of a riser cable. A simple SFF PC, thermals are very good and the build process is fairly straightforward. This case is cool that it comes pre-assembled with the radiator and PSU but doesn't make sense to me.
I really like the option of a top mounted rad, but I agree with you that it's not particularly better than the original.
It really comes down to better AIO placement but worse GPU placement so YMMV 🤷♂️
If this one had the option of horizontal GPU mount, I could see it better but it really looks like a more viable showpiece case alternative to the original (glass panel oriented.)
@@carsanwitt Agreed and I think that would be the best variation if it was ever to be released. The included AIO and PSU are great on this case but the lack of a horizontal GPU mount just doesn't do it for me.
I top mounted a radiator in the original nr200, z53kraken with an msi rtx 2080super gaming x trio looks better than this build.
I too prefer the nr200 , simple and effective and most importantly its price
I would love to see a build in this. I currently have the nr200p and love it.
Also have a NR200P, superb case,the MAX version is on my Buy List.
If they made it 4 slots for the GPU and tall enough for dual bottom mount 140s this would be perfect.
I agree with 4 slots. As for the bottom fans, you can buy a thin version and they will fit with no problem.
The fact that it put together with screws is a major plus also. CM Really killed it with this one. It just works even for new commers to itx. Small but big enough to be easy to build in. Only down side over the m1 is the back let's in a lot more dust.
"This is the absolute BEST small PC case we have tested yet..."
only thing ive seen tested is wether the gpu fits
Also specs on website claim only supports pci 3.
Its probably the only factor thats important. With the AIO and PSU already fitted, what other issues could you have?
@@olswang CoolerMaster should have included a riser that supports PCIe 4.
@@QuasiMonkey It is PCIe 4.0
@@olswang If you're just gaming on it, PCI-E 3.0 doesn't make a difference anyways.
Woah! Your shirt blows LTTs latest ones out of the water! Theirs have all been 100% black and dorky for the last 2 years; so I'm reallu digging the comic book/pop-art vibe!
Totes
White is for undershirts
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Finally I saw a video on release! Jay, you're awesome. My daughter wants her first PC, and it reignited my passion for building again. Therefore, if the daughter gets a custom PC (we don't do pre-builds in this house haha), Daddy gets one too. My last PC was built in 2007 (AMD X2, for reference), so the entire landscape has completely morphed and everything I've learned to get back up to speed is heavily due to you. I've watched over 90% of your content already. Have a serious couple of pick lists for our Father-Daughter builds and am completely appreciative of the fact that your channel exists and can only say thank you for supporting all levels of knowledge and being so informative! I snagged up a GPU apocalypse shirt to help support you guys!
I'll be sure to share both builds once complete (Daughter gets hers first) but seeing as I had a son born 5 days ago, the wallet and wife both agree, it will have to wait. Can't wait to get roasted or admired, until then I have your channel. I digress, you're awesome, thanks for the good content!
Would love to see a build and temp test between glass and vented doors
I quite like it, but there are still some things that I don't like in comparison with the Thermaltake Core V21 I went with. - What I like better about mine, for one thing, is that it has the side and top filters magnetized on the outsides, like the bottom one of the CM. Some people might find that less appealing cosmetically, but I really like that it just filters the dust right at the outside and you can either just vacuum them off or grab the filters without removing any panels and clean them off somewhere else. - The front filter IS a foam one on the inside, unfortunately, but then that will just have to be cleaned as thoroughly less frequently. - Speaking of the front; It allows for 1x200mm or 2x140mm ones, or even radiators for that matter. - The side and top also allow for either 2x120 or 2x140. Except, while this case is almost a cube, unfortunately they didn't make it so you can go 4x120/140 on one side, but oh well. So yes, this one is larger, mostly wider, and it's not strictly an ITX-case but up to mATX.
What's more is that you can turn the case in almost any orientation you'd like, as all the removable panels, including the bottom with the feet, are interchangeable. - So you can put the motherboard-tray in one of two vertical orientations, but you can also put it horizontally (test-bench-style), which also means you can have fans on the side blowing right onto the GPU, or you could even hang the entire system freaking upside-down if you really wanted to. - Yes, again, it's not as small, this CM-case could possible almost fit inside mine, though barely. But while that's a pretty cool package, I feel it's still very limiting in possibilities in terms of smaller cases. - There has yet something to be designed that will beat the Core V21 in my opinion, and not even Thermaltake's newer version of it fixes the shortcomings the older one has (it's basically a "reskin" of the same, but almost worse).
Literally solved the problem of the first case for me, am wondering tho if you could fit two slim 120mm fans down below as intake and run the glass panel to maybe improve airflow as it forces direct flow of air upwards
Jay gets Grumpy when he's called Grumpy. :D
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a dear little girl who was 😘😍😎😋😊😉😆
walk nicely and quietly🤓🧐🤭🤫🤥🤡🤠
I'd like to see Mini-Jay build in this case. "So easy a 6 year-old can build in it!"
That pump bounced off the table and my first thought was "Good job, Linus" lmao
This wasn't Linus... his ad segway wasn't smooth enough...
I would love to hear some of the options you would pick from for the motherboard and then the ram choices. An interesting learning tool. I think you should let her build in it! What a great family adventure.
I'm obsessed with Sff. I want to build the most powerful sff I possibly can for work and gaming. It'd all about finding the right parts that'll work for you since you have to focus a lot on cooling and airflow.
Man, with all of the new good SFF cases coming out, it makes me really want one, especially after seeing this! I would totally do another build with that one. And YES, I look forward to any non-regular Jay build videos, hell, even regular Jay videos!
I think with the extra height Jay mentioned and a mesh side panel that functions similarily to a Meshify case front panel this could be a really great SFF case
9:25 after Jay is like "Hey look the back panel swings out" there's literally a label on the back saying don't swing it out, lift it off >_< lol
My oldest, who is 21 now, got this first computer at 6. He was sitting on my lap as a baby while I worked (IT Professional here), and now he's going to school for computer science. He knows how to do stuff that even I don't know how to do! 😂 Set them up early to succeed in life!
Jay you can use Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM fans along the bottom to bring fresh air into the case.
Jay says “..CoolerMaster stupid naming conventions…” coolermaster’s Ceo is probably thinking “that’s a stupid shirt…”…hahaha
When you do a build, can you please do a comparison on thermals and noise compared to a tower case. This would help tremendously for users that are looking at converting to small form factor.
I would definitely love to see your daughter build her first computer with this case!😆
Thank you Jay for the video. I hope to see the completed build. Maybe you could build a 5950x rtx 3090 FE or rx 6800 or rx 6900 xt rig with it?
13:59 - You can't chop a cake, you cut it...
I've been waiting to see you do this case or the Ncase M1!
M1 is fire ! :D
@@doctoreighty452 And I would have gotten one if my FTW3 card would fit with a waterblock, now I'm deciding between the Ssupd meshlicious and lian O11D mini
@@zack9692 NCase M1 will fit a 3080 ftw3 card. It takes a little effort though. I have both the SSUPD and an 011 mini. Comes down to how much rad you want. If you're okay with close to air performance, go with the SSUPD. If you wanna bunch of thicc boi rads, the 011 mini can hold 2x 360 and 1x 240 easily.
I have an M1, and love it, but it's 12.7 L in volume, whereas this one is 18.3 L for what it's worth. Still looks quite good.
@@ComputersAre8ad I am currently using a Phanteks Enthoo 719(Luxe 2) and want to downsize, originally wanted to do a custom loop in it, but it's just too cumbersome in my opinion, I bought a SSUPD, but I'm waiting on an itx MOBO now, if I don't like the temps I get then I'll go with the O11 mini because I'd love to do a hard line loop at some point
"Send all your hate to Nic" had me laughing so hard, it spooked my husband and 2 cats. 😂
poor cats
I love that you use real units when describing the gaps :D
@Gareth Tucker :D love the real American units bit. Gold!
Being an engineer I'm fully conversant with the inch conversion. Yards.miles not so much, though I'm pretty sure a mile is 1.61 km. The old imperial units are terrible to use for engineering calculations. We covered some in uni and just painful compared to using SI. But for me that was along time ago now :D
I was looking at this case with the vented side panels. I wanted to move my VR rig from the Thermaltake Core V21 because I need it to move and be easy to carry.
Also: already ordered the shirt a few days ago when you first announced it
Thanks J, just built in this case. What a dream!
You can actually mount two 120mm slim fans at the bottom to help with the airflow!
Strangely enough,I found this only seems to increase temps.
4:55 hah, I love naming characters in MMOs 'Moist' ... Usually make them old women, and then hang around groups of people until somebody loses it...
you sir are a bad man .... i heartily approve +1
That's bloody hilarious.
Would have liked to see a thermal test to see the difference between the mesh and glass panel. Also, would have been nice to see if the provided psu and aio perform as expected.
Had a lot of fun watching this though, you killed me when you started questioning the love for your daughter. 😂
I'd like to see the build then thermal testing of how the airflow is and whether there's any throttling
I have the non-Max version of this case, about year old now. 2 slim Noctua chromemax fans on the bottom, AIO radiator mounted on the side with it's 2 fans, then 2 more Noctua full size fans on the top. so that's 6 fans, plus the 3 fans on the installed 3080. It never gets above 80 degrees. Usually quiet unless its a really demanding game. I wanted to try modding it to put a radiator at the top, I see Cooler Master listened and gave us this model to solve that issue.
"The GPU backplate is actualy hinged" sticker on the back says "DO NOT TURN TO SIDE" xD
This would be co complementary to the Corsair ONE "Star Wars PC" Mod. Imagine them both side by side.
I can't even imagine how much the engineers that designed this case are cringing at Jay's complete lack of understanding of fluid dynamics.
This might be a dumb question but I wondered why you would exaust (or push) hot air through the radiator ? I always presumed the principle of a radiator was to move cooler air through it to cool the liquid like in a car. I'm absolutely new to custom building ( its something I've always wanted to try ) so please forgive my ignorance :). Loving the channel thanks Jay and the team.
I recently got the non max version of this case and found the cable management was terrible. Nice to see in this version thats all been taken care of and added an AIO. Would definitely like to see a build in this case to get some ideas on how I can tidy up mine.
Tiny pc's are awesome, totally gonna be my next build, cases however are rare and difficult to find, not many options.
It has the same Ikea look of the Inwin A1 which I have and really enjoy. Really have no complaints over this case at all, more surprised it's a CM product, really like the direction they have been heading in lately.
"Wow, could we actually fit..? Hold on.." That's the most spontaneously excited I've heard you in a while man! hehehe. I was wondering why the negative AP design, but given that it's a compact thing I suppose if there isn't much case to actually fit an appreciable volume of air in, I suppose negative is a reasonable and proactive route for cooling(?). It's nice looking I'll give them that, and you get a lot provided with the case.. Between yourself and Kyle it's the second case I've seen in a few days that supplies its own PSU. I know it's Coolermaster, but the inclusion of an AIO cooler in a retail package like this surprised me even more to be honest. Further, it would be a great case for a complete watercool rig, with a little dinky reservoir tucked in there.. awesome compactness!
Been on the fence about getting the non-Max version for my next build. I'm now 100% sold on the Max! Wicked video, dude!
I love ITX builds, they are a bit challenging but you can still do so much. :D
I like this case a lot, here are some wild ideas for mods (not sure if they are posible):
1.- Modify back panel to have the GPU sit as high as posible and add a flex raiser cable
2.- Try to accommodate a thin rad+fans on the bottom
3.- custom loop, may need barrow or other pump+block combo
Yes, Thank you would love to see his build.
Out of the box cable management is nice
That grey color is awesome.. I might get for a DCS build
The original N200 did not have the rad+fans directly blow on top of the GPU, the GPU sits underneath. The only downside is that once you want to use the AIO and TG sidepanel that you couldnt like that. and it is not a neg pressure case. The ventilation slots on the bottom are exactly aligned in a way that a 120mm fan can be mounted there or 2 slime 120mm fans.
As an owner of a white NR200, I can vouch for the build quality. It was an absolute steal at $60. I have 2 thin 120mm fans in the bottom, 2 120mm fans in the side bracket, and 2 120mm fans in the top. Plenty of airflow.
The regular NR200P was what I used for my first ITX build. Besides cable routing everything was pretty easy. Made it fun.
Install spacers or taller feet and externally mount the bottom fans. Also making a shroud on the mesh side to funnel the air into the GPU, leaving the AIO to pull out the hot.
i have really been looking for a small form factor case and BOOM this bad boy shows up at the perfect time
Super thin 120mm fans will fit fine in the bottom, Scythe makes some 12mm thick ones, they are perfectly good fans
I'm new to computer building. I must say the community is amazing, and your videos contain a good bit of comedy.
I think there will be a GPU support-braket if you take a look at the bottom. There are four holes on the bottom placed basically at the end of a large GPU.
My brother has the original NR200 with a FE3090 powered by a 600W psu. It runs anything, never crashed
Can't wait for the build video.
I was away from my phone for a second so I was just listening to this without watching and at 6:30 I heard this sound and was like: "Wait, is he cutting it!?"...
I love how Jay Struggled so much with the accessory box that we just continued the review until he figured it out 😂
If I had this case & a 3D printer, I'd install a pair of 120mm fans in the bottom, then produce a custom bracket that would fit into the holes of the fans in a double square shape that would offset the gap between the upward blowing fans & the bottom of the GPU, leaving space for the riser card. This bracket would also raise up along the back to further secure the GPU from moving around. Which should help reduce the amount of time that the GPU fans would spin.
17:08 "I love my kid but I don't know how much" - Jay 2021
Archiving for mini Jay
I have the white NR200P case and i managed to cram in a Noctua C14S CPU cooler, 5 case fans, a 750 watt PSU, 3 2.5 hard drives, and some rgb strips. It ended up exhausting out the right side.
I got a NR200P (not MAX) with RTX3080 and 3700x, custom water looped with a 240mm slim radiator at bottom and a 120mm radiator on side, my CPU and GPU were never over 65 degree Celsius no matter what I do, and it's pretty quiet when not gaming, it's the best case I've used over the years, brilliant engineering from Cooler Master!
please yes, build. Something else that we can't get yet.
the pump and the ziptie cracked me up