@@LordMustangGT93 It's not really the chipsets. It's more that they're using bleeding edge new standards with DDR5 and PCI-E Gen 5, along with a brand new CPU generation and socket all on the back of the tail end of the chip shortage. These boards are also massively over engineered which doesn't help. We'll see more budget stuff sooner or later and the DDR5 prices will come down as they're more widely adopted. This always happens with a new generation of a standard, and we're getting 2 at the same time here, technically 3 if you consider the AM5 platform a "standard".
Awesome to see these components perform so well in a SFF build Kyle, thanks!!! Any idea if the 4090 FE would fit in the Hyte Revolt 3 as well? The thickness of the card has me worried the bottom would be too close to the front of that case and the fan may not be able to spin.
Did something change where it's suddenly okay to install a hard drive (uses magnetic storage) right on top of a power supply (creates a shifting magnetic field)?
I wanna do a similar build in this case but with an i9 13900k instead I'm worrying about the temps of the CPU in this case do u think it will be good enough?
They should have included two of those sata cables that come out the short side of the connector. Then they would both face towards the PCIE slots of the case or the ATX PSU connector side. Not entirely sure what end it comes out of. They're really expensive cables tho. Like $15 a pop - but at the price of that board, they can certainly include a couple.
Nice I have the nr200 max with Evga 3090ti. Could you please test with both msi Gaming X trio and suprim x to see if they fit. Also wondering I have fans at the bottom blowing cool air in the case. Do you think blowing air out would be better?
The use of the right angle SATA cables for the little board would also depend on whether you have SATA cables with a 90-degree bend or a 270-degree bend. They do make them both ways, as far as i'm aware.
I agree on not liking locking features behind certain graphics cards. I added the mod to Cyperpunk 2077 to use AMD FSR 2.0 on my 5700xt. Made a huge difference.
Silly question, but since the ROG FPS-II Card connects with USB C which doesn't really care about orientation, could it just be turned 180 degrees to allow access to the SATA ports?
Great to know it all fits ok.. how are the CPU temps when running full whack? For example, running cinebench r23 on repeat. Was looking at this case for a small rendering system so would be good to know it can handle the 7950
@Bitwit - could you please tell me the order of the pins you connected on top of the motherboard? (e.g. CPU connector, system fans, additional at bottom of the case)? My component arrive tomorrow and I want to make sure I set them up right. thanks in advance !
I love my standard NR200. I built it back in 2020 with a Ryzen 5800x / ASUS B550i / RTX 3080 ti. The power supply is a Corsair SF750 Titanium, I know it seems a little small, pun intended, but I bet it would still be enough to power the RTX 4090 FE. It has an Artic Freezer II 280 AIO mounted on the side bracket, you have to take the screws out of the case that connect the chassis together to get it to fit, I also had to install fan guards to keep the aio hoses out of the fans. Anyway, this looks like a good upgrade to the standard, although I think I can get a RTX 4090 FE to fit in the bottom mount of the standard case, I'm willing to try! I check every day but they are still out of stock, maybe it will be a RX 7950 xt instead. Great review!
i think the motherboard is incompatible with the case. :/ what would you recommend a compatible board for the nr200p max? would love to build one someday. 🤙
good to see you have someone helping with filming kyle be a long time since had any handyman hleping with filming good on you mate. Hope he can help more with just doing the videos to come. And the build is pretty good definitely i agree kyle. 😉😀😊
@@bman828 R5 5600 (non-X), Reference 6700XT and 16GB RAM 3.600MHz. The GPU goes up to 80 degrees sometimes, but I also use the glass panel. Maybe you have an even better airflow when you use the mesh panel. CPU is on 50 degrees Max.
@@bman828 not op but have same case. Specs: CoolerMaster NR200P MAX AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3 UKTRA GAMING G SKILLS 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600mHz CL14-14-14-34 DDR4 Ram 2TB Samsung 980 Pro GEN 4 NVME SSD Gigabyte X570SI ITX Motherboard GPU goes to about 75c, cpu around the same. Not too bad for either. The only thing this case might have a harder time handling is more power hungry cpus tbh. I also run this all with glass side panel. Running it with vented side panel means 69c on gpu and slightly lower cpu temp as well. I did modify things a lil though in order to fit full 120mm noctuas on the bottom. I also switched top from exhaust to intake and set bottom exhaust. It’s the best way to run air if you put in bottom fans. I did this by screwing in the gpu to the gpu vertical bracket using longer screws and some small spacer nuts. This game me the extra few mm to fit the bottom fans in. Simple, cheap mod that doesn’t alter the case whatsoever (read: reversible) that totally expands the cooling capabilities and options you get with the nr200p max. Highly recommend.
@@anttheknee1372 you're right it doesn't necessarily make it better and I didn't say that, I have a cheapo 40$ cooler master with a plexi glass panel plastic and cheap as hell I love it , some people would rather have glass than plastic though, jus depends on what you're looking for some people don't care either way
That PBO button does mean the Precision Boost Overclock, it is one button auto overclocking now for this new X670E board. I have both this Rog X670E-I and Rog X670E Extreme, and I found this board to be more pleasing to build with, I do wish the X670E-Extreme board would have an FPS-II card and Rog Hive
Kyle, at 17:46 this bend though, are you concerned about reports of the 12VHPWR connector burning or melting when vertically or horizontally bent < 35mm? Can you post an update after some more burn in and let us know it's OK?
should have installed a slim fan below the gpu.. and since this motherboard have no audio jack anyway why not modify the case to have usb-c? there are guides on reddit on how to do it by modifying front audio jack to usb c
This is what I wanted to see as this is one of my cases ( actually no mines original nr200p) but still . Plus I love the itx boards there so tiny that are juiced up on steroids
With all the changes in equipment specs, would you be able to do an updated budget, mid, high range build video? Especially with cyber monday and christmas coming up it would be nice to see for those of us wanting to help our families figure out PCs!
I'm trying to go SFF for my next build, i'm glad to see that there are some being done but i'd like to see some builds using the larger 4090 cards as the FE isn't available for me in my country, and my only other option is the Suprim water cooled one which won't actually fit in many if any itx cases due to the large rad it comes with.
I currently have the MSI 3090 Suprim X which is the biggest 3090 card and it fits in my NR200P MAX. Getting my 4090 FE tomorrow and that looks way smaller.
I have this exact case with a 5800X and RTX3080 FE but I installed 2 15mm 120s on the bottom as exhaust fans with the airflow side panel. Both sides are intakes and top and bottom exhaust. Great airflow and I find more heat escapes through the bottom rather than the top.
you can buy low profile sata cables. They don't look like the typical cable strands you'd see with the flat rubber lengths, but they are a life saver when you need them. Edit: changed sata ports to sata cables
I havnt build in the max version but even the plain nr200p case is legit. I used it for an uncle that needed an office pc he wanted built and it turned out great. Small size, fairly easy to build in and good ventilation and easy to clean dust filters. And I can fit some big ass cards in this case
@@botbeamer practical in that it's under half the size of my last computer. I built it once, I use it every day. You want something easy to build in, there are plenty of other options. You want something small with great temps, this will do it.
@@botbeamer in my experience I have 6 case fans and they hardly turn on unless I am gaming. When they do, they tend to run low and quiet. A 3080 FE and 5900x run plenty warm, and I've never run into throttling with this case. The airflow is great. I have a low profile CPU fan that blows straight off the chip into one of the 120mm side exhaust fans and directly out of the case. The FE exhausts externally out the back plate. The PS fan also vents out the side. Nothing hot really vents into the case at all, it's super well designed for my particular setup. I have no problems at all with temp in this case. I have no intention of swapping the card, but if I did i bet it would be a pain. I didn't buy ITX for a roomy build, though.
@@botbeamerI would not recommend putting a human being in your case, that will block pretty much all airflow sadly, stick to animals or medium sized birds.
I have the Arctic 280 AIO, original NR200 , 800 PSU, and just got a Gaming OC 4090. I really do t want to pay for all the new stuff, it's such a pain that they didn't make the case a tiny bit longer.
Love my NR200P Max! Mines rocking a Rog Strix B760i 32GB DDR5 5600 I5 13500 and a PNY 4070ti (the one that only needs 2 pcie connections) 40-50 degrees on the cpu when gaming and 68-73 degrees on the gpu with standard fan curves. No changes
Its such a bummer that they decided to force people to use their proprietary audio dock rather than having HD audio ports, but its not that big of a deal because it has audio ports at the motherboard itself i guess.
it comes with a DAC? i haven't heard of a motherboard released that doesn't come with a DAC since the 90s, when you needed a separate sound card to get any audio
Thank you for this video. I have the same case. NR200P Max with a 7900xtx and a 13700k. My 13700k reaches temps between 75 and 92 degrees. Hearing that those high temps are normal is a big relief
Just to let everyone know the clearance for the GPU in this case is up to 336mm though I doubt one that long will actually fit do to thier thickness this generation.
NFTs are not ok. NO... Bad Kyle.
Please don't start shilling nfts. 😔
Feels like he’s still recovering from the break up and the channel is struggling
@@aj0413_ do you mean his divorce? That was a long time back. Also he hired someone, seems like he’s doing well.
Seriously. The events of the last month have highlighted just how bullshit ANYTHING crypto really is.
@@aj0413_ um I highly doubt that considering his brake up was like 3 or 4 years ago.😂😂😂
@@aj0413_ Why are yall talking about how he's processing his life events and struggles as if he can't see this?
I never would have expected a $550 board to have so many problems.
@@LordMustangGT93 that’s what my entire pc build cost. lol
@@LordMustangGT93 But they’re not 550 bucks… this is top of the line. You can get stuff for half or even less
Is that the board problem or a case issue?
@@LordMustangGT93 It's not really the chipsets. It's more that they're using bleeding edge new standards with DDR5 and PCI-E Gen 5, along with a brand new CPU generation and socket all on the back of the tail end of the chip shortage. These boards are also massively over engineered which doesn't help. We'll see more budget stuff sooner or later and the DDR5 prices will come down as they're more widely adopted. This always happens with a new generation of a standard, and we're getting 2 at the same time here, technically 3 if you consider the AM5 platform a "standard".
@@Cameroncito not in AM5, I bet
Damn Bitwit really took an nft sponsorship 💀💀💀
Lovely build Kyle, nice to see something from you again :)
Literally the perfect video that peaks my interest.
I love mini itx cases and huge performance.
It would be nice to have a link for all the items you used
Awesome to see these components perform so well in a SFF build Kyle, thanks!!! Any idea if the 4090 FE would fit in the Hyte Revolt 3 as well? The thickness of the card has me worried the bottom would be too close to the front of that case and the fan may not be able to spin.
Yes! I was waiting to see if I could build the exact same PC and now I can start buying parts as I am confident. Thank you!
You are the best Bitwit! Been dying for you to release this ever since you made that insta post. Amazing techtuber!
bit-lyle is going to get flack for being sponsored by NFTs o:
With good reason. Since its a HUGE bunch of crap. and on the edge to be a scam.
I love you Kyle. You gave me the confidence to build my own pc! And I’m loving it!!!❤❤
I wonder if you could connect the daughter board with two USB-C extension cables, so you could put the board anywhere you want.
Impressive cooler master. I will totally upgrade to this case later this winter. :)
bruh i've been waiting for more on this case and psu setup with the 4090 since it released, thank you
Great video, thanks for showcasing how well or otherwise these components work together.
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Did something change where it's suddenly okay to install a hard drive (uses magnetic storage) right on top of a power supply (creates a shifting magnetic field)?
I love this case, if i ever do a Small case build its 100% going to be the case i go with.
I wanna do a similar build in this case but with an i9 13900k instead I'm worrying about the temps of the CPU in this case do u think it will be good enough?
They should have included two of those sata cables that come out the short side of the connector. Then they would both face towards the PCIE slots of the case or the ATX PSU connector side. Not entirely sure what end it comes out of. They're really expensive cables tho. Like $15 a pop - but at the price of that board, they can certainly include a couple.
This case could very well house my next build. Thanks for the review.
Nice I have the nr200 max with Evga 3090ti. Could you please test with both msi Gaming X trio and suprim x to see if they fit. Also wondering I have fans at the bottom blowing cool air in the case. Do you think blowing air out would be better?
Glad to see you get your channel back & under control! That damned Lyle...
is that why he was not posting
The use of the right angle SATA cables for the little board would also depend on whether you have SATA cables with a 90-degree bend or a 270-degree bend. They do make them both ways, as far as i'm aware.
Hey Kyle,
Would you go for the CoolerMaster NR200P Max or the Fractal Design Torrent Compact?
I’ve been tossing up between the two. Thanks!
Good job keeping a straight face when you said if you plan to install an aftermarket 4090 in this case.
I agree on not liking locking features behind certain graphics cards. I added the mod to Cyperpunk 2077 to use AMD FSR 2.0 on my 5700xt. Made a huge difference.
Silly question, but since the ROG FPS-II Card connects with USB C which doesn't really care about orientation, could it just be turned 180 degrees to allow access to the SATA ports?
Great to know it all fits ok.. how are the CPU temps when running full whack? For example, running cinebench r23 on repeat. Was looking at this case for a small rendering system so would be good to know it can handle the 7950
Can somebody explain to me how 4 pcie 4+4 slots on the PSU is enough? I thought you needed 4 for the GPU and 1 for the motherboard/ CPU?
Hi did you have to do anything for the aio block to fit on the cpu. As far as im aware the aio supports upto am4 socket and your using am5. Thanks
Did you use the included 4x8 pin daisy chain psu cable that comes with the nr200p max? Worried if that is not advised.
@Bitwit - could you please tell me the order of the pins you connected on top of the motherboard? (e.g. CPU connector, system fans, additional at bottom of the case)? My component arrive tomorrow and I want to make sure I set them up right. thanks in advance !
When i bring it as carry on in plane, is it ok to lie down it when all part already installed?
Thanks this is exactly I wanted to know. Not only can a 4090 FE fit in an NR200P Max case, it also seems to work perfectly well too
I love when Bitwit posts SFFPC content
small form factor penis computer?
How much space is there for a custom rtx 4090? I have a msi gaming trio on the way witch is 337mm x 140mm x 77mm
Hey, do i need a third pci-E power cable for a rtx 4080 in this case ? as far as i know it comes only with two cables .
I love my standard NR200. I built it back in 2020 with a Ryzen 5800x / ASUS B550i / RTX 3080 ti. The power supply is a Corsair SF750 Titanium, I know it seems a little small, pun intended, but I bet it would still be enough to power the RTX 4090 FE. It has an Artic Freezer II 280 AIO mounted on the side bracket, you have to take the screws out of the case that connect the chassis together to get it to fit, I also had to install fan guards to keep the aio hoses out of the fans. Anyway, this looks like a good upgrade to the standard, although I think I can get a RTX 4090 FE to fit in the bottom mount of the standard case, I'm willing to try! I check every day but they are still out of stock, maybe it will be a RX 7950 xt instead. Great review!
i think the motherboard is incompatible with the case. :/
what would you recommend a compatible board for the nr200p max? would love to build one someday. 🤙
How did you connect all 4 pcie cables? theres only 3 VGA slots on that CPU? did you daisy chain one of them?
good to see you have someone helping with filming kyle be a long time since had any handyman hleping with filming good on you mate. Hope he can help more with just doing the videos to come. And the build is pretty good definitely i agree kyle. 😉😀😊
Hey bitwit I have an Rx 580 and i really need a build for it what should the specs be
They do make reverse angle SATA cables since the motherboard adapter is difficult to use as noted in the video
Have this exact case for half a year now and absolutely love it. Can highly recommend!
Same here for same amount of time. It is among the goats, especially for sff.
What kind of setup do you run? Curious to what thermals you experience
@@bman828 R5 5600 (non-X), Reference 6700XT and 16GB RAM 3.600MHz.
The GPU goes up to 80 degrees sometimes, but I also use the glass panel. Maybe you have an even better airflow when you use the mesh panel.
CPU is on 50 degrees Max.
@@bman828 not op but have same case.
Specs:
CoolerMaster NR200P MAX
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3 UKTRA GAMING
G SKILLS 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600mHz CL14-14-14-34 DDR4 Ram
2TB Samsung 980 Pro GEN 4 NVME SSD
Gigabyte X570SI ITX Motherboard
GPU goes to about 75c, cpu around the same. Not too bad for either. The only thing this case might have a harder time handling is more power hungry cpus tbh. I also run this all with glass side panel. Running it with vented side panel means 69c on gpu and slightly lower cpu temp as well. I did modify things a lil though in order to fit full 120mm noctuas on the bottom. I also switched top from exhaust to intake and set bottom exhaust. It’s the best way to run air if you put in bottom fans. I did this by screwing in the gpu to the gpu vertical bracket using longer screws and some small spacer nuts. This game me the extra few mm to fit the bottom fans in. Simple, cheap mod that doesn’t alter the case whatsoever (read: reversible) that totally expands the cooling capabilities and options you get with the nr200p max. Highly recommend.
@@guerrierim15 have you ever had power issues. I’m concerned with combining the 13700k and 4090 with only 850 watts
I've had the original NR200 for a while now. Best case I've ever used. One of the best built in its price class as well.
But why the price? Why not like a 50$ cooler master or something
Or the nzxt thats like 100 bucks with a real glass panel
@@superperior just because something has a glass panel doesnt make it better
@@anttheknee1372 you're right it doesn't necessarily make it better and I didn't say that, I have a cheapo 40$ cooler master with a plexi glass panel plastic and cheap as hell I love it , some people would rather have glass than plastic though, jus depends on what you're looking for some people don't care either way
@Bitwit did you use the normal psu 8 pin cables that the NR200P MAX comes with to power the 4090?
That PBO button does mean the Precision Boost Overclock, it is one button auto overclocking now for this new X670E board. I have both this Rog X670E-I and Rog X670E Extreme, and I found this board to be more pleasing to build with, I do wish the X670E-Extreme board would have an FPS-II card and Rog Hive
Damn, that's actually pretty cool.
Great build! I would like to recreate something v similar - can you recommend a cheaper motherboard, though (with WIFI)? 500+ is ridiculous.
Kyle, at 17:46 this bend though, are you concerned about reports of the 12VHPWR connector burning or melting when vertically or horizontally bent < 35mm? Can you post an update after some more burn in and let us know it's OK?
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should have installed a slim fan below the gpu.. and since this motherboard have no audio jack anyway why not modify the case to have usb-c? there are guides on reddit on how to do it by modifying front audio jack to usb c
I was waiting for someone to do this
Would you recommend the bottom slim fans exhaust or intake if the tempered glass panel is on?
Love this case. Thank you for making the vid
This is what I wanted to see as this is one of my cases ( actually no mines original nr200p) but still . Plus I love the itx boards there so tiny that are juiced up on steroids
Explain how you get more compatible out of mounting it one way verse being able to mount it vertical or horizontal wouldn’t that be more compatible?
ngl been waiting for a itx 4090 build and here it is, good job
a top end build that interests me and a video i am genuinely interested in seeing.
Does it fit in the older NRP200p case?
Nice workshop! Is the brown countertop that wraps around the room one unit?
With all the changes in equipment specs, would you be able to do an updated budget, mid, high range build video? Especially with cyber monday and christmas coming up it would be nice to see for those of us wanting to help our families figure out PCs!
Wait the case comes with cooling and psu?
I'm trying to go SFF for my next build, i'm glad to see that there are some being done but i'd like to see some builds using the larger 4090 cards as the FE isn't available for me in my country, and my only other option is the Suprim water cooled one which won't actually fit in many if any itx cases due to the large rad it comes with.
I currently have the MSI 3090 Suprim X which is the biggest 3090 card and it fits in my NR200P MAX. Getting my 4090 FE tomorrow and that looks way smaller.
i have an rtx 2070, how would i go about unlocking dlss for it?
Will the NR200P also support a 280MM AIO? Love the NR200P MAX but only looking for the case; already have the components
Hey Kyle just wondering, roundabout, what's the price tag for this thing?
Just bought this case and 5 other components, excited to see how it turns out
@Bitwit : You can use SilverStone's CP11 Super low-profile connectors to solve that problem.
7900xtx fit and performance?
I already added the case in Amazon but we need some links , how ever the orange case is sold out in some places
Honestly so convenient having the preinstalled cables
I'm a little surprised you don't have any left angle sata connectors... did Asus by chance include any with that motherboard?
I have this exact case with a 5800X and RTX3080 FE but I installed 2 15mm 120s on the bottom as exhaust fans with the airflow side panel. Both sides are intakes and top and bottom exhaust. Great airflow and I find more heat escapes through the bottom rather than the top.
thank you. i am going to be putting my old set up into this case but upgrading the gpu to 4080.
@@boostedprince8163 Did you move to the case yet and get the 4080? Curious to see how it goes!
you can buy low profile sata cables. They don't look like the typical cable strands you'd see with the flat rubber lengths, but they are a life saver when you need them.
Edit: changed sata ports to sata cables
Do you know if maybe the dedicated port for the DAC would also be the dedicated BIOS flashback port without the DAC passthrough?
I havnt build in the max version but even the plain nr200p case is legit. I used it for an uncle that needed an office pc he wanted built and it turned out great. Small size, fairly easy to build in and good ventilation and easy to clean dust filters. And I can fit some big ass cards in this case
i need help. my pc started power cycling on cold boot for quite a few times on random before finally booting into windows .. please help
would this hardware fit in the nr200p non-max?
That GPU connector looks like every picture i've seen so far of melting ones.
This'll be perfectly sweet as a casual gaming PC and a truly awesome flight sim rig. Good vid.
NR200P is one of the most legendary SFF options(despite it being on the higher end of the volume spectrum).
Hello, I’m new here what do you do with your build ? Can we buy it?
What are thermal and noise levels like?
Hey, it's my case! Love this case! 3080 went right in. Cabling was tricky, but it's a little beast.
I had this case for a year, now I'm getting a prodigy, the original bitfenix prodigy. this case very bad for airflow and swapping gpus
well built for space efficiency, but not actually practical for a human being
@@botbeamer practical in that it's under half the size of my last computer. I built it once, I use it every day. You want something easy to build in, there are plenty of other options. You want something small with great temps, this will do it.
@@botbeamer in my experience I have 6 case fans and they hardly turn on unless I am gaming.
When they do, they tend to run low and quiet. A 3080 FE and 5900x run plenty warm, and I've never run into throttling with this case. The airflow is great. I have a low profile CPU fan that blows straight off the chip into one of the 120mm side exhaust fans and directly out of the case. The FE exhausts externally out the back plate. The PS fan also vents out the side. Nothing hot really vents into the case at all, it's super well designed for my particular setup. I have no problems at all with temp in this case.
I have no intention of swapping the card, but if I did i bet it would be a pain. I didn't buy ITX for a roomy build, though.
@@botbeamerI would not recommend putting a human being in your case, that will block pretty much all airflow sadly, stick to animals or medium sized birds.
I was thinking of the exact same build. Looks like I'll have to try with a 270 degree SATA cable... If I can get a hold of a 4090 FE.
Love the ITX content!!
I have the Arctic 280 AIO, original NR200 , 800 PSU, and just got a Gaming OC 4090.
I really do t want to pay for all the new stuff, it's such a pain that they didn't make the case a tiny bit longer.
Love my NR200P Max! Mines rocking a Rog Strix B760i 32GB DDR5 5600 I5 13500 and a PNY 4070ti (the one that only needs 2 pcie connections)
40-50 degrees on the cpu when gaming and 68-73 degrees on the gpu with standard fan curves. No changes
Is this case available yet? They announced this like over a year ago and can't fine it.
Its such a bummer that they decided to force people to use their proprietary audio dock rather than having HD audio ports, but its not that big of a deal because it has audio ports at the motherboard itself i guess.
I want to see custom pc cases. Different themes and modifications
What are your room temps? I definitely can't wear a hoodie in my room so I'm not sure I'll see 70C while maxing out a 4090 this way.
Lyle's brother has come a long way from unplugged water tubes.
Nice, always love some more SFF pc stuf! :D
it comes with a DAC? i haven't heard of a motherboard released that doesn't come with a DAC since the 90s, when you needed a separate sound card to get any audio
Diving into the block chain game with an ad is a weird, weird move.
What would be the total cost of this system ?
Thank you for this video. I have the same case. NR200P Max with a 7900xtx and a 13700k. My 13700k reaches temps between 75 and 92 degrees. Hearing that those high temps are normal is a big relief
can you I stall a regular psu into this case?
Just to let everyone know the clearance for the GPU in this case is up to 336mm though I doubt one that long will actually fit do to thier thickness this generation.