RTX 4090 - The biggest problem of modern cards that the manufacturer refuses to repair

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  • @KrisFixGermany
    @KrisFixGermany  9 месяцев назад +767

    I want to remind everyone who has such a heavy graphics card and those who are planning to buy/build a new computer to think about proper installation. Standard methods are no longer practical. Vertical mounting will save you a lot of headaches and money.
    I hope this type of video will reduce the number of devices being thrown away.
    Liking the video and subscribing to the channel is much appreciated.
    Thanks

    • @Blitzz_69
      @Blitzz_69 9 месяцев назад +9

      Super Reparatur! Sind das Schäden die auf das Gewicht des Kühlers zurück zu führen sind? In welchem Preislichen Rahmen bewegt sich eine solch Komplexe Reparatur?

    • @BrunodeSouzaLino
      @BrunodeSouzaLino 9 месяцев назад +52

      Sad part is Silverstone already invented the solution to that many years ago, which is their Raven cases, where the motherboard is mounted so the rear I/O faces up. That way, the weight of the card is supported by its backplate instead of the PCIe slot.

    • @Centrioless
      @Centrioless 9 месяцев назад +26

      You said the problem occured during the transport. How would vertical mounting help that problem?

    • @dgillies5420
      @dgillies5420 9 месяцев назад +38

      If you are transporting a computer & gpu to a new home as I did with my son please pack the gpu in large amounts of bubble wrap and carry it in your carry-on bags to prevent jostling and damage! If you ever watch the baggage handlers at the airport loading bags they throw stuff on the ground all the time!

    • @maraisl
      @maraisl 9 месяцев назад +13

      Great job Kris, very complex and time consuming repair. Think it is better to remove the gpu entirely when travelling as it depends on the case orientation when travelling.

  • @GabrielRodrigues-fg6ex
    @GabrielRodrigues-fg6ex 9 месяцев назад +1215

    Insane level of precision. We often forget how tiny those pads and traces really are.

    • @aaronmicalowe
      @aaronmicalowe 9 месяцев назад +33

      There are tricks you can use to accurately move your hand in 10th of a millimetre steps, without any strain on muscles. Just rest your palm on a surface and allow the weight of the hand to naturally move one direction or another with the slightest of muscle movements. In the same way you use a pencil to do fine art, or a mouse to make single pixel movements. The surface acts like a gearing mechanism and also eliminates body shake from your heart pumping. Incidentally, this is also how snipers eliminate these types of movements on long range shots. You can get 5 bullets through the 1st bullet hole at a range of 30 meters, without any optics or sight, even if you have to manually load a bullet into the chamber each time. You just need good eyesight, or with PCB work, a good microscope.

    • @NisseCrusader
      @NisseCrusader 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@aaronmicalowe That is amazing.

    • @ManomiiFox
      @ManomiiFox 9 месяцев назад +3

      well it's a german repair man, of course! sorry for the stereotype.

    • @BenState
      @BenState 9 месяцев назад +2

      Accuracy. Precision is different.

    • @shiinondogewalker2809
      @shiinondogewalker2809 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@BenState although it's ALSO precise

  • @JasperBouchard
    @JasperBouchard 9 месяцев назад +558

    I am amazed at this repair. I cannot fathom the amount of precision and care you had to put in to fix all of those traces. You are a legend man. Incredible work

    • @nicekeyboardalan6972
      @nicekeyboardalan6972 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah like wtf!

    • @insomnia20422
      @insomnia20422 9 месяцев назад +19

      this level of repair is only worth on 2k cards though lol

    • @webwizard65
      @webwizard65 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@insomnia20422 I'm not sure it's even worth there. I'd like to know how much this kind of repair costs, ending up, in the end, with a repaired object. No wonder they end up in a landfill...

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@webwizard65 Yeah he's doing God's work but I'm afraid most people would just bin the defective card. One reason "right to repair", though a great idea, is not practical for most people. When my partner spilled coffee on her fancy laptop, I had it cleaned, it always had little issues afterwards, and she ended up binning it for the latest, greatest, trendy model a few years later.

    • @zerocal76
      @zerocal76 9 месяцев назад +7

      ​@raylopez99 ​@raylopez99 fyi "right to repair" isnt about big damaging things like liquid spills or these cards w a lot of circuitry and tiny parts. Its about simple making common repairs like replacing batts or displays simpler and more affordable. So it does make sense for the avg consumer

  • @stevensims3342
    @stevensims3342 9 месяцев назад +246

    As someone who knows a lot about electronics, it's really neat to see you replace leads and pads. That's some serious repair skill.

    • @2000ViperGTSsubscribe
      @2000ViperGTSsubscribe 8 месяцев назад

      Start with knowing Ohms law in and out, then using a multimeter, build some basic projects. I did Heath Kits back in the day, then build my own PCB, then a radio and advanced. I have owned a small IT company since 1996. Retiring, but made good loot for sure as I bought, sold and repaired. @@s7r49

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's impossible without expensive repair tools, like he uses. Too many CPU pin pads to uniformly heat at the correct temperature to allow release, by hand.

  • @CharlesVanNoland
    @CharlesVanNoland 9 месяцев назад +73

    I think this is the craziest repair I've ever seen! Attaching dozens of new BGA pads to a board and solding them to their traces, crazy!

  • @Sampsonay
    @Sampsonay 9 месяцев назад +125

    And here I thought I was a badass for fixing one broken pad underneath a GPU before. This repair right here would have humbled me very quickly. Respect.

    • @pegcity4eva
      @pegcity4eva 9 месяцев назад +4

      I felt like a badass fixing 4 solder joints on my iDrive lol.

    • @avonire
      @avonire 9 месяцев назад +4

      In fairness 90% of people probably aren't fixing pads on GPUs, so I think that's pretty cool

    • @snickerdoooodle
      @snickerdoooodle 8 месяцев назад +1

      No, that's actually really badass.

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 7 месяцев назад

      Noobs.

  • @Beardqt
    @Beardqt 9 месяцев назад +247

    I genuinely thank you for saving tech from ending up in landfills, we try to do our part by buying old electronics and storing them at home for later repair but what you're capable of is amazing

    • @artichoke60045
      @artichoke60045 8 месяцев назад +2

      I have a bunch of old stuff like that too, not that difficult, hate to see such a big piece of work get thrown out but mainly I never get around to fixing them.

    • @vasili1207
      @vasili1207 8 месяцев назад

      by do your part what do you mean part of what ?

    • @Beardqt
      @Beardqt 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@vasili1207 saving electronics from being thrown into landfills for no reason, almost nothing is actually recycled in the US so my family likes to buy what a lot of people consider to be junk to store or fix at a later time. that's all.

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 7 месяцев назад

      I can imagine the load of junk you're living in, as old electronics even needing repair are obsolete and who has time to repair all that junk for which replacement parts are difficult to find.

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@Beardqtleast pcbs and chips arent toxic waste besides traces of plastic for brackets etc. After alll it's sand and metal

  • @Perplexer1
    @Perplexer1 9 месяцев назад +150

    I love discovering videos that literally blow my mind. I never knew that there were actually people out there who are able to repair ripped pads from under the microchips!

    • @DespaceMan
      @DespaceMan 8 месяцев назад +1

      You can it's just such a pain to do & takes a lot of your time.

    • @ccoder4953
      @ccoder4953 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, it's really quite remarkable what a good technician can do with board level repairs and mods. For example, it's even possible to drill down through layers of a PCB and solder a wire on one of the inner layers. All very highly skilled, delicate work, but very doable.
      It doesn't even stop at the PCB. It's even possible to rewire ICs! It's virtually never done to repair an IC (rarely worth it and usually not practical when it is), but it's frequently done during IC development.

    • @tomtemple69
      @tomtemple69 8 месяцев назад

      @@ccoder4953 yep, his one video he literally goes into the layers of the PCB and reconnects the copper connections, Kris is a PCB surgeon

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 7 месяцев назад

      YPerplexer
      You need service ? What card ?
      yeah, we have seen many insider ricks, we did try at home too
      some did work ! Over too repair boards too.
      I always got over repaired cards back, follow the traces ..

    • @VeritasEtAequitas
      @VeritasEtAequitas 5 месяцев назад

      I don''t think you understand what "literally" means.

  • @williamking9707
    @williamking9707 9 месяцев назад +7

    I had no idea it was even possible to replace broken pads/traces like this. The closest I've seen is the sort of tiny wires you see in say, PS2 modding, which I figured to be impractical for these cases. On THAT I was correct.
    But seeing this actually be done, let alone function? Been a while since something made my jaw drop but the precision, skill and knowledge presented in this video did just that.
    Bravo.

  • @northwestrepair
    @northwestrepair 9 месяцев назад +361

    Very cool technique to glue a pad with mask before soldering it.
    Makes it a lot easier to solder for sure.
    Learning from the best 👍

    • @CahyoPrabowo
      @CahyoPrabowo 9 месяцев назад +21

      You both are the best, i know nothing about electronics but i always watch your videos

    • @it-sd
      @it-sd 9 месяцев назад +11

      Very cool technique, indeed with the solder lugs. Sand, conformal mask, then solder.
      Thanks to you both…learning from the best! 🙏👍👍

    • @SupraSav
      @SupraSav 9 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks for what you both do! Helping enthusiasts everywhere with some of the most obscure tech.

    • @bhoot1702
      @bhoot1702 9 месяцев назад

      I knew I will find this Guy's comment

  • @mundocpc
    @mundocpc 9 месяцев назад +38

    Repairing those traces is such a nightmare! It is already bad with much less complex PCBs, so totally crazy in this particular one. You did an awesome job and I also learned a couple of tricks from you watching this!

    • @TestTest12332
      @TestTest12332 8 месяцев назад

      As my dad used to say "replacing horseshoes on a flea"

    • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
      @SpaceCadet4Jesus 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@TestTest12332I didn't know fleas wear horseshoes. Where do they get the tiny horses that give up their shoes?

  • @WiltshireTutorials
    @WiltshireTutorials 9 месяцев назад +29

    This is incredible. The amount of precision that goes into something like this is jaw-dropping. Well done!

  • @heinzpechliwanis1411
    @heinzpechliwanis1411 9 месяцев назад +10

    Holy ****, this is the first time is see this level of a repair. This is phenomenal

  • @roki977
    @roki977 9 месяцев назад +157

    Massive job, must be expensive. You guys are the best of your kind on RUclips. No one goes so far to repair those things..

    • @formbi
      @formbi 9 месяцев назад +23

      maybe Tony from Northwestrepair

    • @fabiodlx
      @fabiodlx 9 месяцев назад +62

      I mean, the price of 4090s these days are hella expensive and depending where you live, it might cost you around $2000+. Even if it's a $500 repair, atleast you're not buying another 4090 for a good long while.

    • @IT10T
      @IT10T 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@formbi I would like to see to longevity of his jerry rig repairs

    • @roki977
      @roki977 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@formbi Kris is more specialized in GPUs, Tony is more allrounder from what i saw..

    • @patryk2535
      @patryk2535 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@IT10T probably same as from Kris. The difference is the success rate more than longevity. Longevity can be affected by bad soldering for instance, Tony got pretty good with that.

  • @rjd659
    @rjd659 9 месяцев назад +30

    Seeing this repair and your recent 6900XT save by drilling the pcb are simply inspiring - like fine art. Always a pleasure watching and learning, Kris. You are a master.

  • @ShR33k
    @ShR33k 9 месяцев назад +18

    I like repairing stuff, and soldering - but that's God-Tier work right there! I'm surprised you even attempted it! Most people would say its un-repairable due to the complexity. Incredible work, and incredible patience you must have!

    • @2000ViperGTSsubscribe
      @2000ViperGTSsubscribe 8 месяцев назад

      In my shop I would have pitched it-too much work unless you do GPU's all the time.

    • @GetFitEatRight
      @GetFitEatRight 7 месяцев назад +3

      This would have 100% been an I'm sorry its junk call on me. You're crazy for even trying, and even crazier for actually getting it to work. There is no way i could ever warranty a repair like this though.

    • @2000ViperGTSsubscribe
      @2000ViperGTSsubscribe 7 месяцев назад

      @@GetFitEatRight That is the rub, same when a customer wants me to "repair" their water/liquid spilled device. Can I turn back the clock? Sure I can likely get it working, but the wear on the components cannot be undone. I really hate doing repairs anymore as anything after it is your fault so I have raised my prices to decline most repairs at this point. I do not need money, I simply can't stand doing the work anymore. Retiring shortly.....

  • @valentinmazar531
    @valentinmazar531 9 месяцев назад +81

    This is ultra level pro. We need more technicians like you. Well done Kris

    • @Ringo_ChanSan
      @Ringo_ChanSan 9 месяцев назад +7

      Bro is german what did you expect

    • @human_shaped
      @human_shaped 9 месяцев назад

      That is not pro level. Pro level doesn't get close to this.

    • @weasle2904
      @weasle2904 8 месяцев назад

      @@Ringo_ChanSan Means nothing.

    • @Ringo_ChanSan
      @Ringo_ChanSan 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@weasle2904 it's just a joke on the german stereotype

  • @superbrain3848
    @superbrain3848 9 месяцев назад +69

    im quite impressed by the patience you bring up to sit there and fix the broken pads.
    not a lot of people i know could focus on such work for long.

  • @_ElisDTrailz
    @_ElisDTrailz 9 месяцев назад +4

    God damn dude, you have the patience of a saint. Doing micro-trace repair is not easy. I give you props.

  • @Crushonius
    @Crushonius 9 месяцев назад +11

    Hats off to you brother
    you are keeping it real and repairing stuff that pretty much no one would touch
    i applaud you good sir keep doing what you do we need people like you in this world

  • @TheStuffMade
    @TheStuffMade 9 месяцев назад +39

    Impressive repair, it's pretty hard core to successfully replace traces and pads under the GPU.

  • @pauleyc6264
    @pauleyc6264 9 месяцев назад +48

    The pad repair is amazing, up there with the PCB layer fixes you had a few months ago. Incredible precision!

  • @BlueJeebs
    @BlueJeebs 9 месяцев назад +10

    Interesting to see the process. Lots of specialized tools, know-how and skill required to do a repair like this. Thanks for showing it 👍

  • @goku445
    @goku445 9 месяцев назад +9

    Incredible! The amount of work and skill that went into that repair is insane. Congrats on making it work again.

  • @stanimir4197
    @stanimir4197 9 месяцев назад +33

    If another life/alternative universe, the channel host would be a renowned brain surgeon. This was an amazing feat, coupled with even more patience (and skill).

    • @TheSaival
      @TheSaival 9 месяцев назад

      lol dude fuck brains GPUs are much more complicated than that

  • @mik310s
    @mik310s 9 месяцев назад +6

    Fine workmanship, I've been doing electronics for over 30 years and I wouldn't attempt to repair those pads, very nice.

  • @fullmoon6661
    @fullmoon6661 9 месяцев назад +2

    My heart dropped when I see those ripped pads but then amazed how you managed to fix them all. Cheers!

  • @leonardgucciardo8386
    @leonardgucciardo8386 9 месяцев назад +4

    This has to be the most precision repair I have ever seen. I have had boards only half this bad and threw them away because once a pad is ripped under a BGA I figured the board was junk.

  • @Serachja
    @Serachja 9 месяцев назад +9

    I dind't think such a fix was possible by hand, astonishing. Great job and I'm happy it worked without further fixing the ram chips

    • @mukkah
      @mukkah 9 месяцев назад

      For real! Mad amazing skills in this vid ^^

  • @muhamedalli7685
    @muhamedalli7685 9 месяцев назад +45

    you are the genius of the repair

  • @desireisfundamental
    @desireisfundamental 9 месяцев назад +1

    You should have become a surgeon! The amount of patience and control you must put to solder such tiny pieces is god tier

  • @juma3076
    @juma3076 9 месяцев назад +3

    Every other repaircenter would give up, i believe. You are the MASTER of GPU repairs.

  • @TheWangbolizhong
    @TheWangbolizhong 9 месяцев назад +13

    Thanks for the great repair video and I hope you are in good health!👍

  • @jonathanellis6097
    @jonathanellis6097 9 месяцев назад +7

    You must be a very patient man! I would find doing that amount of delicate work, way to frustrating, also I don't think I have steady enough hands! 👍

  • @Gastell0
    @Gastell0 9 месяцев назад +7

    Professional and Data Center GPU/Accelerator cards don't have that issue unless they are mishandle to the point that damaged GPU would be your least issue because they have industry standard securing mechanisms (yes, multiple) for PCIe cards that have been there for decades to ensure safe shipment and operations.
    The process of repairing the pads is always amazing sight to behold, this is incredible work!

    • @TheSaival
      @TheSaival 9 месяцев назад +1

      Im literally having this display on a damaged then fixed rtx a2000. A whole condensator was missing for some reason.

  • @McDark84
    @McDark84 9 месяцев назад +3

    My understanding of soldering and electricity is practically zero, but i love your videos. I love your precision and your dedication to it.

  • @gt4654
    @gt4654 9 месяцев назад +6

    good job bro. I would trust you to fix my neuralink chip.

  • @talha7408
    @talha7408 9 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing microsoldering job, and great music 8:25

  • @adipuiu5603
    @adipuiu5603 9 месяцев назад +2

    So nice of you to share not only the cause of malfunction but also the repair process.
    I have never thought of miling new traces from bare PCB.

  • @m1keway266
    @m1keway266 9 месяцев назад +7

    This is some insane level of skill, the ability to do those small traces like that. Just amazing. Good work man!

    • @2000ViperGTSsubscribe
      @2000ViperGTSsubscribe 8 месяцев назад

      It's really hard. I have dome some before and it is a PITA, but under a GPU so small is a whole different animal for sure. That is really small work to do and he makes it look easy.

  • @jhonbus
    @jhonbus 9 месяцев назад +6

    Watching the close-up reattachment of all those traces it's easy to lose sense of scale and when you showed the overview of the card afterwards and all that work was just in a tiny corner of the footprint... My mind was blown! I feel like you could probably teach the average microneurosurgeon a trick or two 😂

    • @jhonbus
      @jhonbus 9 месяцев назад

      I guess it's a sign of how crazy the prices are for these cards that it's worth putting this amount of effort (time * skill when time = long and skill = extreme) into the repair.
      Even the 3080 and 3070Ti cards are still going for 20% or more above their original RRP here, 3 years after they came out and after a year of the 4000s being available!)

  • @adjoho1
    @adjoho1 9 месяцев назад +4

    Holy cow. This may be your best video I've seen yet. Absolutely outstanding workmanship. Bravo.

  • @jrp1531
    @jrp1531 9 месяцев назад +8

    I would assume that level of repair is crazy expensive. Amazing job!!

  • @lindenhoch8396
    @lindenhoch8396 9 месяцев назад +2

    Imagine clocking in a monday morning with late sunday hangovers, and the boss goes "We have this 4090 card with some ripped pads."

  • @patryk2535
    @patryk2535 9 месяцев назад +4

    Memory chips were probably saved by themal pads which are more flexible than the direct contact between massive copper block and the GPU chip!
    Nice work, super proffessional :)

    • @raddysurrname7944
      @raddysurrname7944 9 месяцев назад +1

      the mem chips are also a lot smaller, I'm sure that made a big difference as well.

    • @FrozenHaxor
      @FrozenHaxor 9 месяцев назад

      No, thermal pads play no role here, it's purely the axial PCB twist that does it. What saved them is their size, they were able to flex along with the PCB enough.

    • @patryk2535
      @patryk2535 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@FrozenHaxor I'm sure they do. Flexing less due to their size is also a big, in fact the main factor for sure.

  • @raddysurrname7944
    @raddysurrname7944 9 месяцев назад +9

    MAD RESPECT, if I had a chance to do such a job I would at least attempt to do it, but I imagine it takes being comfortable with a lot of gear and loads of patience. Thanks for showing us.

  • @jackquick8362
    @jackquick8362 9 месяцев назад +3

    Most of the 3000 series was scrapped. Over 60%. Had the wonderful job of pre sorting (smashing up with a forklift) several containers of "excess" that they basically want smashed up so they can reclaim anything that can be efficiently shipped, unlike boxed graphics cards.

    • @TheSaival
      @TheSaival 9 месяцев назад

      holy shit

    • @PineyJustice
      @PineyJustice 8 месяцев назад

      @@TheSaival This is why AMD waited so long to launch the 7600, 7700xt and 7800 along with deep discounts on the 6000 series, the market fell out during the middle of peak production in the crypto boom. Nvidia would rather send cards to a landfill than have reviewers compare the value of a 3080 to a 4070 which is exactly the problem AMD has had all generation. Punished for doing a good thing.

  • @DJdoppIer
    @DJdoppIer 9 месяцев назад +2

    Holy crap that's amazing!!! The amount of precision you have to have to fix this is insane!

  • @BanksRacing11
    @BanksRacing11 9 месяцев назад +8

    Thanks for another video keep up the good work..

  • @HypnoticSuggestion
    @HypnoticSuggestion 9 месяцев назад +11

    What a joy to watch. This is all still relatively new to me. I had no idea this level of repair was even possible 👍

  • @Democracyphobia
    @Democracyphobia 9 месяцев назад +1

    man , he made it look so easy , thats robotic arm percision right there .mad respect

  • @JustinAlexanderBell
    @JustinAlexanderBell 9 месяцев назад +3

    That's so many tiny traces to fix...

  • @danielroos5993
    @danielroos5993 9 месяцев назад +8

    Omg really amazing to see you can even replace the tiny solderpads! Really nice and professional repair. Wish all the electronics repair shops worked like that, sadly the opposite is true lol

  • @darylmorse
    @darylmorse 9 месяцев назад +3

    It's so impressive to see the depth of knowledge and skill that is required to repair these boards.

  • @Quick_Sa_Fugim
    @Quick_Sa_Fugim 9 месяцев назад +7

    Amazed of the mastery of your work. That is talent, knowledge, precision and patience all at once. Outstanding!

  • @keen_lex
    @keen_lex 9 месяцев назад +7

    I'm always happy when technicians manage to repair electronics that otherwise would be thrown out. Amazing job and subscribed.

  • @Se7en20082008
    @Se7en20082008 9 месяцев назад +7

    You good sir are a master surgeon when it come to graphic cards, such intricate precision required to do this sort of thing is godlike. Best component level repair guy I've ever seen on youtube . Big thumbs up 👍👍

  • @D3URY
    @D3URY 9 месяцев назад +3

    If i hadn't seen this with my own eyes i wouldn't have believed it was possible, you deserve every success for your patience and talent

  • @ronny332
    @ronny332 9 месяцев назад +2

    A nightmare. The amount of work is insane. Crazy to see, that it is even possible. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Atma-HD
    @Atma-HD 9 месяцев назад +6

    Just wow, your soldering skills are beyond impressive. Unbelivable that you could repair the card 😮

  • @gpr-garwoodprecisionrepair6256
    @gpr-garwoodprecisionrepair6256 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great setup, great video, great channel. The techniques you used to expose and reconstruct those broken traces are among the most advanced I've ever seen on RUclips. Excellent work!

  • @JamieBainbridge
    @JamieBainbridge 9 месяцев назад +1

    Godlike. I would not have thought this is repairable. Clever use of UV solder mask to fix the pads in place.

  • @King0fHArtford
    @King0fHArtford 9 месяцев назад +1

    When that beat drops 08:47🔥🔥🔥 anyone else was thumpin to the beat while cleaning. Thorough thorough video repair my man 🫡 dude you should’ve been a neurosurgeon with that level of precision and steady hands. Dr Strange would be jelly 😂

  • @r4dius
    @r4dius 9 месяцев назад +3

    Man your work is on another level, I never thought some of the things you do were possible "manually"

  • @syncmonism
    @syncmonism 9 месяцев назад +47

    I recently saw in a GN or Buildzoid video that Sapphire has been reinforcing the memory modules in the locations which are more prone to bending with some special type of glue. It's always nice to see when engineers add in extra features like that. It shows a sense of care and pride in their work. They're completely unnecessary if the card is well cared for, but it makes them somewhat more resilient to damage, though who knows how much of a difference it really makes.

    • @kitecattestecke2303
      @kitecattestecke2303 9 месяцев назад +2

      Why not use screws to a thick alloy plate? GPU cards wont bend und er any weight if the backplate would be screw on by multiple points...
      It is just greed from the manufacturers nothing more

    • @peoplez129
      @peoplez129 9 месяцев назад +4

      The truth they don't tell you is lots of components on GPU's are coming "broken" from the factory, you could have ball points on your GPU detached right now, except it's still able to make a connection because they're still making contact, so you don't notice. Once you look at it, this definitely has to be the reality of most GPU's. And that's probably how this damage was soo extensive to begin with. You get some balls making contact, but only being held together by the force of the other ball points, and it becomes much easer to end up with others ripped out too, until you end up with a card like that. So you might only have like 80% of the ball points actually being load bearing in any given GPU, while the rest are just connected by contact pressure from the other ball points.

    • @givemeanameman1
      @givemeanameman1 9 месяцев назад +1

      its not about caring for the card properly, just thermal differential of a few degrees over the entire PCB will result in it warping(curving one way or the other) and when screwed into something(such as the heatsink/fans) rippling instead of warping because its constrained by its attachment points, putting significant stress over the PCB...
      Where something as big as the GPU is soldered acts as a reinforced spot where the solder joints from the GPU to the PCB are actually STOPPING the rippling/warping/thermal expansion from happening, and are being subjected to large shear forces.
      This expansion is not just from the PCB, the GPU itself getting hot expands, if the PCB does not heat at the same speed its the GPU putting stress on the PCB.
      Think of bridges and buildings, they have expansion slots to deal with thermal expansion.
      GPU get so hot, and the thermal differential is so large over the PCB they need to start being designing with thermal expansion in mind.

    • @era7928
      @era7928 9 месяцев назад +1

      The glue make repair job a nightmare though.

    • @Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty
      @Dont_Gnaw_on_the_Kitty 9 месяцев назад

      Another factor is that the thinner a board is the better it performs electrically due to the increased capacitance from the internal power planes. Result is a more flexible board which can crack more easily.

  • @jackconrad4814
    @jackconrad4814 9 месяцев назад +2

    Definitely keeping this in mind for my next case. Horizontally mounted motherboard would be fun

    • @a64738
      @a64738 9 месяцев назад

      I have Coolermaster HAF XB cube case with horizontal motherboard. But the Zotac RTX4090 AMP was to big to fit in the case because it is HUGE... It is 6cm Longer then my old GTX1080ti that I did think was large. I solved it by mounting the GPU on the outside of the case using PCI-E extender cable.

  • @PaulHigginbothamSr
    @PaulHigginbothamSr 9 месяцев назад +9

    Thank you Kris for your tremendous amount of work and sending out your videos. Sorry you were ill, it makes life more difficult than it needs to be.

  • @patryk996
    @patryk996 9 месяцев назад +6

    Wow! This is really impressive! Thank you for dedicating so much of your time to show us so much detail --including editing and posting the video! :)

  • @Vermilicious
    @Vermilicious 9 месяцев назад +4

    The weight is surely a problem, but also that they insist on using a BGA package. I really wish they would use a socket solution for desktop GPUs.

    • @the_hate_inside1085
      @the_hate_inside1085 9 месяцев назад

      I´ve done some work on old Ataris, Amigas, and Matell consoles. Often the chips are just inserted into a socket without solder, you can literally just pull out a chip with a screwdriver. Corrosion/dirt can lead to bad connections so cleaning the ends/socket can help out on those systems.

    • @jhonbus
      @jhonbus 9 месяцев назад

      I can't see them making a change like this sadly. First of all, there's just no benefit Nvidia, and second, there are several downsides.
      Failures like this have several places for the blame to be placed before Nvidia would ever take it - If the fault is recognised then the courier and end user will blame each other, and if not, maybe the board partner takes the hit, unless they inspect it, in which case it's back to the end user or courier again. Nvidia doesn't care either way.
      Then there's the fact that using a socket would add some significant cost increase for the board partners, and also probably some for Nvidia in the chips themselves since they'd probably need to be made with a more robust package with a different dimensional finish suitable for clamping in the socket.
      A socket would probably result in lower max performance as well, biggest issue probably being trace impedance discontinuity which you can mitigate, but that means more expensive sockets.
      Also given their extreme control freakery I have a feeling Nvidia don't want it to be easy to swap GPUs between cards.

    • @aitorbleda8267
      @aitorbleda8267 9 месяцев назад

      More expensive, more noise, and that has the problem of people replacing the chip instead of throwing away the card.

  • @MM-vs2et
    @MM-vs2et 9 месяцев назад +2

    Magic. One word I thought I'd never use for a repairman. You are a magician good sir, with the hands of a surgeon. Stellar work.

  • @Justifier
    @Justifier 9 месяцев назад +2

    Okay this one was astoundingly good to watch
    Seeing the scale of that trace repair is just nuts

  • @YUCON
    @YUCON 9 месяцев назад +3

    Oh my.. you are a repair artist man! The level of precision and also knowledge of what you are doing. The fact that you are even capable of doing this type of repair at unreal difficulty blows my mind. I am truly amazed by your skill level. Absolute professional. Fantastic!

  • @colinstu
    @colinstu 9 месяцев назад +6

    Just looked up your prices because I'm amazed by your work, wowza! What a deal imo! obviously can't be too high otherwise not worth it to repair but still, pretty stunning work you accomplish. Thanks for sharing.

  • @teknologyguy5638
    @teknologyguy5638 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome work, glad I found your channel. Hope to see some more detail in other videos as this is the first one I've seen.

  • @xntumrfo9ivrnwf
    @xntumrfo9ivrnwf 9 месяцев назад +4

    Man I'm not sure I'd have the patience to fix so many traces...

  • @SuperFlausch
    @SuperFlausch 9 месяцев назад +4

    What an amazing craftsmanship! I really can't believe that you are able to perform such work economically efficient as the repair doesn't make any sense if the cost exceeds the one of a new graphics card. I always thought that a damage like this is not really repairable as it simply takes way too much time to detect and repair the damage. Hats off to you as you successfully managed to perform this insane repair!

  • @metaturso
    @metaturso 9 месяцев назад +2

    This guy here is the Louis Rossman of video cards minus the politics. Incredible repair skills. Subscribed.

  • @djjoel1
    @djjoel1 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, I've never seen anything like this done before! Very impressive! I look forwards to more content!!

  • @thear1s
    @thear1s 9 месяцев назад +4

    You've got a lot of patience, with that many broken pads I would have expected that the cost of repair exceeded the cost of a similar used GPU by a lot, and sold the die and ram chips for parts.

  • @EXOWill
    @EXOWill 9 месяцев назад +15

    I don't know how much you charge, but your work is phenomenal. The kind of damage that would result in this kind of repair wouldn't necessarily be on the shoulders of the card manufacturer. The scariest part of a prebuilt is shipping. I think the onus falls on the people who prepare the system for shipping.

    • @TheKazragore
      @TheKazragore 9 месяцев назад +2

      Doesn't help that those actually doing the shipping and handling seem to have gained a reputation for not treating the packages properly.

    • @JurekOK
      @JurekOK 9 месяцев назад +4

      Actually, no. The distribution of accelerations and shocks on shipping containers is well known. The onus falls on the card designers to not allow into production products that will surely not survive completely normal shipping conditions.
      In other words, the design of the 4090 with it's inadequate cooling system is the problem.

    • @colindante5164
      @colindante5164 9 месяцев назад

      @@JurekOK Thankyou for sharing that info. ))

    • @TheSaival
      @TheSaival 9 месяцев назад

      @@JurekOK its not just 4090... The whole PCIE slot standard is ridiculously unfriendly to shipping when paired with modern graphics cards. Maybe if you were to install a gpu like a cpu it would be safer.

    • @EXOWill
      @EXOWill 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@JurekOK I do agree with you to an extent. If you install a 4090 in the motherboard slot, then the card has to be supported on the end to avoid damage. I have built numerous systems and shipped them across the United States. I don't ship the GPU separately for the customer to install. I support all sides of any component that is susceptible to rough handling. So far I've had good results shipping pre-built systems with gratitude from the customer. I also double box the tower in a larger padded box which raises the cost of shipping but it's worth it.

  • @bjornm.3897
    @bjornm.3897 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, didn't thought that would be repairable. I'm already struggling to solder wires to 0402 parts. Increadible job.

  • @Heagen46
    @Heagen46 9 месяцев назад +2

    Pretty impressive to see how calm and precise you are with your tools and that on this microscopic level. Good work!

  • @RollerCoasterLineProductions
    @RollerCoasterLineProductions 9 месяцев назад +3

    I’m blown away. I’m curious how much that repair costs

  • @koford
    @koford 9 месяцев назад +10

    what would we have done without you Kris, awesome work.

  • @manners403
    @manners403 9 месяцев назад +2

    Incredible work which takes an incredible amount of skill!! I would only like to have seen the card tested after reassembly.

  • @bf3and4highlights83
    @bf3and4highlights83 9 месяцев назад +1

    I started vertical mounting a long time ago, think HD 4770, as I always wondered why companies made these nice looking cards but then when installed you were looking at an ugly back plate. Always thought they built cards upside down. Cypto mining helped as if you looked and modified, you could find cabled extension ports with the right speed. Cutting old cases apart to make mounting brackets. Building used to be fun.

  • @Blackrock18
    @Blackrock18 9 месяцев назад +3

    Must feel great to do 60 trace repairs and have it work on the first try! Glad I vertically mounted my 4090.

  • @martin22336
    @martin22336 9 месяцев назад +3

    Amazing level of repair I can never understand how someone can pay so much money for a GPU only to see this stuff happen.

  • @rickmd1991
    @rickmd1991 9 месяцев назад +2

    I've always been under the impression that ripped pads means a dead card. You are insane for this.

  • @talesmaschio
    @talesmaschio 9 месяцев назад +1

    Electronic engineer here. I am impressed with your technique. Truly amazing, congratulations. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @lawrencemanning
    @lawrencemanning 9 месяцев назад +49

    You, sir, are not just a technician. You are an artist of the highest calibre. 😊

    • @KrisFixGermany
      @KrisFixGermany  9 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you so much 😀

    • @mukkah
      @mukkah 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yo for real man. I'm a jack of all trades / master of none type, but damn, think most people can appreciate the level of craftsmanship on display here.
      Excellent video and great camera work / edits to boot!

    • @petrolhead0387
      @petrolhead0387 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@mukkahso many people misuse that quote, if you use the whole quote it changes the meaning behind it.
      "Jack of all trades, master of none. But oftentimes better than a master of one" William Shakespeare

    • @callmex5406
      @callmex5406 9 месяцев назад

      oh worm of worms, you will never in your life achieve even 1% of the expertise this "technician" has. Shut ur mouth up

    • @crazyd00d
      @crazyd00d 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@petrolhead0387😅

  • @seimeianri
    @seimeianri 9 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing work, I wonder how many people would just refuse to go until the end after seeing the damage

  • @bitrage.
    @bitrage. 9 месяцев назад +2

    Bro watching this gives me anxiety... all those micro pads needing fixed

  • @shishkebaba
    @shishkebaba 9 месяцев назад +1

    insane level of skill. super steady hands, wow

  • @DJaquithFL
    @DJaquithFL 9 месяцев назад +6

    You're the Soldering God! My mind is blown 🤯 What you did I didn't even think was possible, I'm amazed. You need to do more videos ..Big time!

  • @budp.4209
    @budp.4209 9 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent technical skills and knowledge, It always amazes me on how you are able to fix theses cards. Thanks you Kris for sharing.

  • @MiniDevilDF
    @MiniDevilDF 9 месяцев назад +1

    Am new to this channel. First video I've seen. Absolutely amazing work here, being done on an incredible level of scale. Well done!

  • @gjcarpe
    @gjcarpe 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just found your channel, and i must say that i'm impressed with the quality of this video. Great work, and very interesting!

  • @chrisliddiard725
    @chrisliddiard725 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wow. I wouldn't have thought this would be savable. If it weren't for the cost of these things, the level of damage would make it terminal. Hats off for even attempting a repair. This is the equivalent of open heart surgery.

  • @FR4M3Sharma
    @FR4M3Sharma 9 месяцев назад +3

    There's two conclusions I can make from this.
    1. The Customer is probably lying and manhandled these cards and did not use Supporting Brackets.
    2. The Prebuilts were shipped carelessly and the Assembler/builder should be fucking sued for this.
    Anyway Great work as always Kris, You and Tony (North-West Repair) are my favorite Hardware Repair channels on YT, I learn so much from you guys.
    May the force be with you.

    • @p0k314COM
      @p0k314COM 9 месяцев назад +1

      The first question: why customer do not use guarantee if it was new, pre-built rig.

    • @FR4M3Sharma
      @FR4M3Sharma 9 месяцев назад

      @@p0k314COM Yeah that too, the customer is probably lying.

    • @orfeous
      @orfeous 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, I really don't understand. They are so many and also often from the same customer. That was he said in some streams. I haven't heard of so many broken cards here in Sweden. Of some are bad we just send them in as DOA.

    • @FrozenHaxor
      @FrozenHaxor 9 месяцев назад +1

      Customers always lie.