Big PC Cases are DEAD to Me. - Dan Cases C4-SFX
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There are big, good cases that can fit tons of hardware like the Corsair 4000D. There are stylish cases like Lian Li O11 Dynamic. There are cases with great airflow like the Fractal Design Torrent. But it's hard to get all of those in a Small Form Factor of SFF case. DanCase has proven that you DON'T need to compromise on these features and that you can fit a high-end Intel or AMD CPU and even an Nvidia RTX 4090 in one of the best PC cases I've built in. I love this thing.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:51 Meet The DanCase C4-SFX
3:00 Building in The DanCase
4:40 Motherboard
5:24 PSU and SSD
8:12 CPU Cooler
9:10 GPU Warranty Stickers
9:46 Rad Mount
10:20 Nude GPU
12:03 Trying to fit it all in
15:42 Comparable Cases
16:52 Thermals
19:13 Nitpicks
21:00 Outro 
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Asus motherboard and X3D Cpu.. That cant go well
@@th1jzzz531 That's just their way of showing you can fit an ICE in this thing.
It's quite cool, but I've never liked such small cases
I think it’s overall just a nice looking small case
Why are you advertising Asus boards with 7000X3D cpus with the issues around them together. I get if the video was shot before it BUT take out the affiliate links at least from the video description and this comment.
You're building in a DanCase without Dan? How could you?!
Yeah, how could he?
He might have been busy setting up Wan show but yea, it was a huge missed opportunity.
The guy who designed this case is called Daniel I believe, it's a one man show from Germany. Would have been dope to have him on a video
Well who is gonna continue making cases for the other customers?
@@ahsokaincognito Dan and Dan build in a DanCase would go way too hard for our mortal eyes and ears.
The warranty sticker thing is one of the main reasons I'll miss EVGA's GPUs. They honor their warranty even when you disassemble and install a waterblock on the card. I've had to RMA two EVGA GPUs (out of like 11 I've owned from them) after I watercooled them. I told them up front that they've been watercooled. They simply told me to put the stock heatsink back on and said the only issue would be if I didn't have the stock thermal pads anymore (which they offered to send me). RMA process was a breeze still. RIP EVGA, you will be missed.
No lie, EVGA is one of the easiest companies ever to work with, and their CS has always been first class when I've had to work with them.
XFX honored the warranty too. They even went as far as to offer Waterblock installation for the AMD Vega cards, U pay for shipping.
Not like they are dead. They just choose to not to stay with the unseasonable
XFX are just as good, if not better. They explicitly list that they don't cover warranty on used cards, but when my $250 6800xt started acting up (shocking, I know), they agreed to provide RMA so long as I paid for shipping. This was a surprise to me, I even told them it was used.
The SSD bending is because there's space for a double sided SSD, but a single sided one is thinner so it doesn't make contact with the thermal pad underneath and gets pushed in by the cooler. But ASUS have actually accounted for that and they include a rubber spacer which you can install underneath a single sided SSD to support it and stop it bending. It's not well-advertised but if you look in the accessories box it should be there, and there's a page in the manual showing where to put it. Alternatively you can just add another layer of thermal pad if you lose the spacer.
go figure, nobody rtfm anymore😂. Thanks for the tip though
@@DannyNguyen56read the fuckin manual?
Correct. I read the manual on my Asus MB and it calls for it. I did it. RTFM chaps😂
@@domesticterroristAtarilmao that’s what I thought of instantly too😂
I love when the editors have fun with the videos and add goofy stuff. Makes me smile every time 😂
The fact that you don't need a riser cable makes a huge difference to me. Those end up causing so many issues in real world use cases
such as?
@Bootstrapper A lot of cases still ship with a Gen 3 riser. Gen 4 mobo, Gen 3 riser, and Gen 4 GPU can lead to a lot of instability and for first time builders it can be a hassle figuring out that's the problem.
@@lambyi And it is just another thing to plug in, and another point of failure. Not having one is probably better just for simplicity's sake
Wasn't it NZXT who had fire starting risers?
Also, hey Z0eff 👋
Got a Gen4 GPU, Gen3 Riser and Gen4 Mobo and got No Problems at all🤷🏻
B550 I Gaming
RTX 3070 Strix
Lian Li Q58 Gen 3
Ah yes, an Asus motherboard with an X3D. Definitely the most stable of gaming rigs in the modern day.
rn with the 1410 bios should be safe, you lose OC functions and you are capped to 1.3v but at least it doesn't void the warranty anymore
@@Darkmaniak86 the cap doesnt work lol
This was also most likely filmed way before the news was out
Was thinking the same thing
@@asnaeb2And ASUS will probably void your warranty anyways because they will just delete that BIOS version from their website too lol
I love inverted cases. So hard to find and honestly that's an injustice. Thankful for smart case designers like this.
I bought the O11D Evo literally a few hours ago just because i want a white inverted case
I had an old Lian-Li PC-V1000 case that did something like this. Loved it.
Watching you work in that case definitely helps highlight the ease of building in the more standard ATX options. Otherwise FormD and many other SFF look great. Only thing I wish is more would have a handle for portability.
Adam really came alive this video. I know he's been on camera quite a bit at this point, but something about this video reminded me of the days when hosts like Anthony and Alex were getting their video legs. When the host is comfortable and confident, and their personality really gets to shine through. Love to see it.
It was like watching regular Linus working with Big Linus 🤣
Two
He's turning into a Jake personality
And maybe body double (slowly)
It would help even more if Linus didn't keep trying to undermine him lol.
Like his spine
I remember when Dan's cases were fairly new on the market and super niche. Pretty cool to see them keep pushing SFF. I just got a Dan A4-H2O last year and love it.
Yeah, very cool for 200€ lol.
I live the H2O, but its missing the size to comfortably fit a 4090....my prayers have been answered!
@@Zoduk The H2O can fit the 4090 FE and MSI Ventus model
Got a A4-H2O last year too, it's just such a great case. And maintenance is not that hard with the possibility to pull the bottom off, and the hole in the front. Still in love with it.
Do you have some need for the case to be half as tall or is all that hassle just to look cool? Footprint wise Its 4.5cm narrower and shorter than my Corsair 220T but also a hell of a lot harder to build in and you need compromised components?
I used to build only full tower cases, but recently realized (after longer than I'll admit) most of that space is going to waste because I'm not using a full tower as intended. My latest build was going to be in a micro case with an mATX motherboard and I almost went with the Jonsbo D31 in the mesh white ($90 and would be my first white pc build), which is very similar to the one used here, but ended up doing the HYTE Y60 (a mid tower) in snow white and absolutely love the build even more. I was very concerned with the thermals of an i9-12900K in the D31 even with an AIO liquid cooling and was a bit disappointed most micro cases didn't have a glass side panel.
I'm waiting for a mass manufacturer to just bulk produce these for like $38. When a full ATX case can be sub-$40, there's no good reason (aside from small production run and "because you'll pay it") for a case with this little material to cost $200+. Heck, you don't even need to have it be pre-assembled, just ship with instructions and let the user do it. Cutting out steel panels doesn't cost that much, especially in bulk. For a small run, charge what you want I guess, but for this to be mainstream a big maker just need to make them in bulk and price accordingly. If "Bgears b-Vigor RGB Mid Tower with Front RGB Light and Side Tempered Glass (BG01879)" can be #17 on Amazon's best sellers for PC cases, for $38, and have tempered glass and lights, this SFX case can be done for $38. It doesn't even need a riser, so there's no excuse about minimum costs there.
As a mechanic I laughed so hard when linus swept the screws to the side if you do that in a shop you might get hurt
I once had a helper “reorganize” the bolts I had laid out by subassembly on a work bench for a particularly heinous engine rebuild. If we had an HR department back then I would’ve been fired on the spot for the hateful language that spewed involuntarily from my mouth.
I remember when there were only 3 screw types in PCs and you could buy mixed bags of spares.
This explains why I always have so many screws left over
In regards to the tamper sticker, Isopropyl alcohol works as a great solvent to temporarily make the sticker no longer sticky. Then once the isopropyl alcohol evaporates you can re-apply it like a new sticker. This trick also works for the rubber feet on many devices that manufacturers love to hide screws with.
Learnt something new, cheers
first i was like "no shit sherlock" and then i went to "oh snap thats cool"
A solvent meaning it dissolves the glue, no?
@@silverhawkroman it disolves it but it makes sense that if you just leave the alcool and glue on it instead of wiping it off it will get sticky again when the solvent evaporates
@@Aerosklice naaah ,if you apply to much,the glue remains on the card,its a very tricky and delicate operation
did something similar to an NR200P build I did a few years back, I had a spare bottom panel from another nr200 so I flipped the bottom panel with the feet to the top then flipped the whole PC over, put the second bottom panel on the other side and had dual radiators in that tiny thing. Also I cut the back panel out(right above the motherboard) so it fit a 120mm fan right above the mobo
Small is nice (even in a big house) - built a 10 liter desktop using Lian Li PC-Q03B many years ago - still alive with upgraded SSD and now a small RTX 2060 card - also the NR200 chassi is (was?) a little bigger at 18 liters and very flexible but most recently built a 33 liter machine using Asus Prime AP201 chassi (RTX 4070, Ryzen 5900X, 4 memory modules) and its so much more convenient with a little more room for everything inside - including more air 😊
Linus is being ballsy for using a ROG itx board with his 7800x3d right now, lol.
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Yeah, I know this must have been recorded before the full story came out, but I'd have appreciated some mention such as "we are professionals, do not use an asus mobo at home".
He won't say anything about asus/amd because they went hard with amd "upgrades". And no showing it between bits in WAN show where fewer people will see is not really adressing the problem
@@SkullHandy yeah, because when they were doing intel upgrades they NEVER said anything bad about intel cpus and their wattage and temps, right?
Pre-recorded.
This has the same energy as Adam's tech upgrade. Love it
nah his gf/wife brings more chaos than this
I’m stoked to see this review! I just ordered the Dan C4 as an upgrade from my previous sff case that only supports 2 slot gpu’s.
16.55 lake Bled in the background 😂
Great video.
Now you can pack it and I am writing for it 😊😊😊
The crew comments are some of my favorite bits bc no one else on production scales like this don’t let the people behind the scenes interact like these guys do
I've only seen Smosh do this before
At the rate Nvidia is increasing the size of their GPUs, I’m worried that even this case will become useless in a few years.
Amd,intel?
@@dennisheusschen7273 Lets Not Talk About Them
@dennisheusschen7273 those literally don't matter to most users buddy. Sorry to break the bad news to ya
You'd just have two small cases, one for the gpu and one for everything else 😂
@@ATLsF1N3ST91 amd gpus are better price to performance
Love the build... and the unconscious screwdriver flip at 2:45... he didn't drop it! Also, I cringed when Linus brushed those screws aside. Glad their was a lesson to be learned there. Respect another's workspace, Linus!
It was a pretty clean flip too.
He put all his skill points towards screwdriver flipping
@@ZaHandle I think he mighta put a few points inta int and tech... just a few...
Another awesome build!! I perfer to build with larger cases, but if I ever do a small form factor, I would definitely consider this case!
i have always been a mid tower guy, but some of the cases i've seen on this channel do make me wonder how nice it would be to have a sff build that i can actually have sitting on my desk comfortably
Do it!! Cases like this really are allowing you to put in whatever you want and get reasonable temps. I have an A4 H20 and it’s awesome!
seriously, i've got a Ncase m1 (what the NR200P is based off of) and the temps are great! I also had to take the fans off of my 3080ti to get it to fit but theres room for some noctua fans just underneath and its my favorite PC case i've built in, and i've built more PCs than i can count. I think it will be my forever case until i can no longer fit any hardware in it.
at one point i stuffed a 5tb hdd in between the radiator and CPU block. but my OC'd ram didnt like the lack of airflow so much so i had to revert. The cost to entry is the worst part IMO. The cost of the more premium cases are pretty egregious (worth it imo but there are cheaper ones in the market now). ITX MoBos are very pricey and so are the SFX PSUs compared to their ATX counter parts. Not to mention coolers that wont fit in the new case and you'd have to purchase new.
It's also just a great challenge for the enthusiast builder. I will be attempting one later on when I upgrade.
Watch optimum tech and look into the Formd T1 and SSUPD meshlicious
On my L shaped desk, I have my Mid tower sitting next to my two monitors. Have room for 10 figurines, my mic, KB&M, Xbox Controller. My wireless charging bank. A Notepad. And my desk is still somehow smaller in length and width than my Lazyboy chair.
If you are thinking about recreating this build, i’d recommend not using an ASUS motherboard because the over current protection is faulty and the BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty. Watch Gamer Nexus’ video for more detail on the problem.
That and for some reason Asus insists on making their itx rear io shrouds extend past the itx form factor.
"BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty."
False.
Never found something better than the thermaltake core g3, cool airflow, good gpu clearance, full ATX board (still an sfx power supply). A bit tall, but super slim. Still in love with that one.
I admire the small case sitting here looking at the nv7 under my desk that couldn't fit on my desk without blocking my 8 inch studio speakers. That little case would perfectly fit in between my screen and my speakers. I salute you!
Nothing gets me going like SFF cases! Love seeing you guys covering this on the channel! More please!
SO YOU COOMED TO THIS VIDEO???
The genuine excitement in how awesome the engineering must've been to design that case was awesome to watch
I really like these small form factor builds. I've never built a small form factor myself though...I usually build in mid or full tower cases. Could you guys do a video on how you go about selecting components for a small form factor build and ensuring that everything will fit in the case (theoretically)?
Pretty straight forward honestly, most ITX cases only fit SFX PSU, ITX motherboards, and the showcase on the website will tell you what size cooling and fans will fit. Oh, and also consider the GPU won't always fit for a three-fan or higher-end GPU. There is virtually no way to make a blanketed approach to ITX as each company deals with it differently.
@@califa213239 Also almost all product listings - especially on the manufacturer's website - will give dimensions. Case manufactures, esp in SFF cases, will usually give max length/height/width dimensions for GPU slots. I still try to undershoot a tiny bit so I don't have to do like they did in this video and partially disassemble the case.
I also assembled my own mini ATX setup, it is pretty light weight, doesnt take as much space as a common tower one and temps are still cool due to undervolting of CPU and GPU. Would recommend!
Who was aware that Dan from LTT had a sidehustle in designing PC cases as well?
It represents his genius pretty well tbh.
not the same dan. the dan case is from a german forum member of computerbase
@@perun I guess this is what they say r/wooosh is for?
I wish Fractal would make a micro ATX version of the North.
The normal North is quite big.
@@initial_kd it’s still big for an SFF lover like me… I also would love an ITX or mATX variant!
@Initial_KD mesh side panel is the best version you can mount an aio on the side.
They did it for the Torrent, I bet they'll come up with smaller North variants soon (maybe Computex?).
MicroATX is the read headed step child. It isn't popular enough to warrant much effort on the part of motherboard or case manufacturers.
@@christopherjames9843 then why does Fractal make a MATX version of pretty much every case they make?
Love that you're wearing a Pebble again, still rocking mine as well!
One day, I'm going to make a SFF build with just an APU. Love to see innovation in the space. Just like I love seeing episodes with Adam! He knows what he's doing, and isn't camera shy. Great match for Linus.
I've recently build my rig in the Dan-A4 H2O and I am still impressed by the quality and overall concept of their cases.
Linus: "Why do you want to choke a horse??"
Because it is a night-mare
I love the super deep dive into this case. OT and HardwareCanucks video was great but this one gets into the nitty gritty of it. Super excited for this SFF case!
The fact this case wasn't restocked is sucha a damn shame
As someone who has long haired pets who I value more than most people, I appreciate the desire to make sure your system is easy to clean. I have a calendar reminder to remind me every month to "peel" the fur off my computer's filters.
Using a Dan A4-H20 with a 5800X3D and so many features it included were just as nice as this. And I can see so many more new improvements between that case and this newer one. Even if ITX is charged at a premium it is amazing to just see it all fit and work while remaining quiet.
you two are my favorite duo. you make me laugh everytime thank you
The NH-D12L is a good cooler, I got one and it cools the 5800X3D well. Absolutely a great option for SFF cases like this. I'm just a bit worried about the air flow since the way the D9L and D12L mount it won't be able to draw air in directly from the outside in this case (or probably any SFF case) the way a top flow cooler or liquid cooling would.
I've had an A4 since 2018 and I've been really happy with it. The build experience was like you're describing here, it gets out of the way and you kinda forget you're doing a small form factor build. It just goes together really nice and easy.
I've used White Cooler Master NR200 for my build. It's 18.25L case, looks nice and clean on my desk. But man, it fits Arctic liquid freezer II 280 AIO (the radiator thickness is 35mm, regular AIOs has 25mm), 4080 FE, R9 5950X (I built it before Ryzen 7000 series has come out). It's almost silent, idle CPU temp is 33 degrees Celsius, overclocked 100% load about 81. Without overclocking 100% load never above 71 no matter for how long.
I think the A4 H20 remains my favorite SFF case. It's tiny and it's meant for water cooling, but I went with air cooling and it was so fun to build in.
I really wish there would be a micro-ATX version of this. The motherboards are usually cheaper for the features. Provides an upgrade path for more RAM and other expandability. This would only require a small bump in height
Dan Case has the A4-mATX in development which is basically a slightly larger version of this. But who knows when/if they release it
I just built a minor variation on this (7700, rx7900 xt) in a Silverstone Alta G1M. It's a micro-ATX case, but assembled vertically (the 'rear' ports are on the top) so it's got a small footprint, and average mid-tower height. GPU ends up facing the front panel, so the LED-lit fans on mine shine through the front mesh. As a bonus it supports normal dual-tower air coolers, so no need for water or radiators.
@@davidskidmore3442 I've seen the Alta too. It is so close to being great too. But I don't like the look of it and like the open top due to liquid spills. Where I could put the C4-SFX upright in the same position as the Alta to close of the top
I have the ncase m1 which is a very similar size. Going to a LAN party I could just put the computer in my backpack with my keyboard and cables which was super convenient. SFF is a hassle to maintain but well worth it
My trick for warranty stickers is to take the bad boy out, and cut out a new sticker using a blank thermal shipping label and an xacto knife. Its brand new adhesive so sticks great, works everytime
The problem I had with my last itx build wasn't cpu or gpu temps but the pch temp. Bigger boards have heatsinks on them but itx boards have no space. Shame smaller builds are more expensive too, they look better.
Love the Summit Ice t-shirt. Never forget ✊
10:34 Not only Andrew, but the entire island of Ireland has just facepalmed and blacklisted Adam from ever coming here.
I think that I'm going to downsize with my next build, but mini itx / sfx is quite annoying to build in and cooling is suboptimal most of the time. I think that the jonsbo d31 or asus ap201 with a micro atx board is a good compromise.
I love to see SFF builds on this channel. I have NR200P build currently and I'm so happy to have it. I will never go with a classic mid or big tower anymore. Just one thing, Asus and X3D? Like, really? Plus after the Asus' behavior I would expect to go with some any other brand for mobo
5:33 Ok, I have to applaud Linus for the hilarious Gru impersonation. 🤣👏
I freakin love Mini-ITX, so compact and unique, it genuinely helps with space constraints and rare situations when I need to move it around :D
Your god damn right. Hell yeah.
i prefer mini-DTX because its just as compact but you can fit more stuff onto it.
He definitely should have gone with a different mobo vendor though
Did one for the wife. Never regretted it.
ITX is fun for seasoned PC building enthusiasts, it is where most of the progress in case design/layout/innovation happens :)
I can imagine how excited those guys are, putting huge things in the small cave ;)
I love the dynamic that Linus and Dan have.
Father and son energy
Dan? That's Adam.
You should check out another interesting case: Mechanic Master C28.
At 17.9L it's one of the smallest cases that supports both micro-atx mobo and atx psu at the same time. Just like the dancase in this video, nearly all of its panels can be unscrewed for easier building. It supports 240mm AIO or an air cooler up to 162mm. It also supports a 335mm graphics card.
I got mine from aliexpress last year and it was a very fun build, especially squeezing in my giant msi rx 6950xt gaming x trio.
wait til the m1evo comes out lol
Nah I have the ZZAW C2 case and it supports MATX mobo + ATX PSU at the same time. And GPU length upto 323mm and the case is 13.7L total
@@johnuzoka6124 thanks for letting me know! i edited my comment so it just says "one of the smallest" since yours is smaller. for my purposes, i still prefer the c28 because it can fit taller air coolers and my gpu is 325mm so wouldnt fit in the zzaw c2.
@@ericchen5862 unless im mistaken, m1evo is an itx case. the reason i suggested c28 is because it fits all regular micro-atx parts so you dont need to pay extra or lose functionality for itx/sfx parts
@@opoku_ also theres the SAMA IM01/Techware Fusion
It's 21L with more compatibility compared to zzaw c2 but I'm not sure of the cooler/GPU allowance
Linus does seem like a good boss to be honest, its nice to see fame and money doesnt go to everyones head! Well done LTT 🥰🥰
LOL Ok.
I'm looking at the background throughout this video and was wondering if you guys can do a thorough run down of how you guys manage and organize all of the tools, computer components, going through your thought process when you do the layout, what works and what doesnt, which organizing storage containers you guys used and why you guys stuck with what you got now. I have so much computer tools, components to store Ive been looking on ideas for the past couple years but havent found anything usabale.
19:07.
another reason I don´t want to have to hope that the pieces will fit in the case.
This feels like one of them cases that have a short list of kits that will fit in it and if you want to change a piece down the line in a few years good luck finding anything that will fit.
Great video showing off the DanCase. You two are hilarious together. Fun just to watch all the good natured banter. Linus, you are a bit mischievous 😆 Keep it up.
SUMMIT ICE. never forget
love the dynamic between those two
9:22 best course of action is to get IPA (isopropyl alcohol), use tweezers to get it off while adding ipa from the side and thel letting the ipa on the sticker evaporate. After a minute the glue will stick again and you can place it back. The trick is to be careful with the tweezers in the beginning not to damage the sticker at the very start
I'm running a small form factor system and I thought my Formd T1 was my ultimate case, but this one is just so good. I was settled for keeping my current rig for the next year or two but this is kind of lighting a fire in me to make another build now.
Same for me xD
Probably it might not have the build quality of a T1, but i like the layout and I wonder if you could go watercooled with two rads, like in a NR200 but smaller…
@@xXRusheR90Xx The problem with the T1 is I just didn't anticipate GPU's becoming quite as huge as they have. I mean, a 4090 is doable with a custom loop but the T1 has kind of reached its limit. Which is a shame because I like it so much.
God that summit ice tshirt is so fucking cool. Massive respect for that reference (and for Nathan who's probably kept the business going as an actual fundraising mechanism (???)).
It will also make a good small table for your pod. It would be cool to have a small drawer where CD drives used to go, for the bugs.
That's an amazing case, basically no compromise in 14L, smart made.
Only issue is ~370$, I'd still stick with NR200P, maybe max, you get a window or you get good performance, with max you cna do both.
This is almost exactly the build I am looking at doing so happy this came out
I love my hulking beast that required me to source a desk with a slot big enough to fit it (barely), but it's still really cool to see these smaller form factors being fleshed out and developed.
I'm a big case for life stan, but this is great for my smaller case brethren!
I don't consider myself as good with building PC to do this, but since I wanted a way smaller PC i bought the NR200P Max, and I super recommend this.
Lot of things including cable management are already done in the case, it was really reassuring for me, and the performance are excellent. I don't think I could appreciate the liiiittle difference in size here, but I understand the fun for some people
I would like to see more wall mounted PC. My next rig will be on this style.
it's as if I'm 10 again, watching my parents try to assemble a trampoline. great energy and an entertaining while still educational video.
I'd still go with larger cases with tempered glass panels. For one thing, - they are a joy to assemble, very easy to clean and maintain, have dust filters, you can still have your USB3/USB C ports on the top of the case, and they look much nicer, especially if you intend to put RGB fans etc. in them. And you're not going to have a "Godda&^t!!" moment when you've spent so much time assembling your case but your mobo won't post as you push the power switch. Now I honestly don't know what advantage do smaller cases have unless you intend them to be portable or have just moved into a condo the size of a closet in the middle of London. But even then you should just go with a PC imbedded in your tiny desk.
I mean, I'm so OCD that I cut & re-soldered a bunch of cables and heat shrunk them on the back of my current rig, just so as to get the cable management spot on; also heat shrunk around the motherboard headers to hide coloured wires etc so they're invisible. I LOVE this video for so many reasons though, they're having genuine fun working it out, I used to work in the games industry and would build the latest, smallest build for trade shows or press demo tours of our games etc (I learned this the first time I went to E3 and had to strip a midi tower down, including it's PSU going through customs). So this just brings back SO many happy memories.
I feel that you guys should have a look at the FormDT1 V2 because of the almost infinite configurations
the more linus videos you watch the more brute force you use in your builds
I like ITX, but I also like my Huskies, and the 2 don't mix when you have to clean the PC regular due to fluff and dust. I did it for my gaming PCs for a few years, 3770K, 4670K, 4790K, 6700K and "recently" my oid 9900K 2080ti when I upgraded to 10900K/3080ti, but even with replacing cases as I went (Coolermaster Elite 130, Bitfenix prodigy x2, Aerocool DS Cube, Silverstone RVZ01 and RVZ03 for the 9900K) the only thing that seemed to make sense was get a bigger case which made it seem more sense to just go ATX for the same price with more features in terms of the mobo and case. I do have ITX for HTPC mind you and Retro PCs (I used the 3770K and 980ti in the Elite 130 for my XP Pc and picked up a Shuttle XPC along with a 3.2GHz P4 and 9800 Pro for 98SE (with a DVI to HDMI adapter) as with the retro PCs, it just makes sense to keep them small as then they won't be in the way and get put away instead of being bulky and in the way and then to big to be worth getting back out once put away (which is the fate of most people I knows 98/DOS retro PCs).
I do swear by building an ITX HTPC in the InWin BQ656 though, yeah its cramped but its cheap and has all the extras that may be handy like a slim optical bay (for the DVDs when the internet is down) and card reader for when that relative wants to show you pictures you don't want to see and you tell them you aren't on facebook or any other social media :D).
Good thing you remembered the segways. Don't wanna miss out on commercials inside the 21 minute commercial.
Now you should compare mid 2000s case against modern pc cases and see if pc cases improved over the years
I love Adam and Linus videos. The chaotic energy is unmatched
That's an amazing case. After looking at their website - where the silver case appears almost white in the photographs - I really want a white version of it though!
12:06 linus mentions some cables i brought up in 2 or 3 videos that would help every sigle person that uses the nr200p max and this motherboard. It is the only way you can have sata drives in that case.
I love Small Form Factor PCs. I'd love to see more videos like this!
I've been using Lian Li O11 Air Mini for a while now and it's one of the most aesthetically-pleasing and fun cases to build
I am actually going for that for my next build. Looks very fun and pleasing and cool (?)
Me too bro!
It's not as small as those cases, but it's a damn pleasure to work in
Some years ago I bought the Ncase M1, which, at the time, was one of the best mini itx cases that didn’t require a riser, and didn’t compromise on performance. But current gen high end GPUs won’t fit in it. The new Dan case seems to be the only mini itx case on the market currently that can do it.
very interesting i want to upgrade my gaming pc this year and this is something to consider a smaller box means more efficient fans and cooling
I've loved Adam on screen since his AMD upgrade, love seeing him on camera with Linus.
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when I first saw it, I thought it was the ZZEW B6... it uses the same concept of the flippled mobo, where it sucks fresh from top!!!... I love the layout, might try it later!!
I loved the banter this episode
Fractal Design Ridge is still my favorite bc the amount of desk real estate it takes up is absolutely miniscule and you can get similar thermals. Maintenance is also easier bc everything is in its own chamber. Plus it just looks classy.
i absolutely love the terras aesthetic and I wish I could build in it, but the dealbreaker for me personally is that it doesnt support radiators :/
guessing this was recorded before asus boards blew up every X3D cpu
I absolutely love adam. his explanations are so clear and concise.
I love the married banter during the build
If only there were more SFF options for us MATX users. 😢
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