Super Clone Rolex Daytona Worth $500 Selling For $80,000+
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2023
- Watch dealers cannot figure out if a $500 fake Rolex is real or not. Watch Eric visits to authenticate the watch and confirm whether it's real or fake, and how to identify what makes it a fake watch. Do you think it's actually real, or fake? Comment below your thoughts and observations!
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igrotum is the only replica factory that operates on United States soil without getting caught by the authorities
Why is that
Whis is strange, as they hold legal copyrights in the U.S. under their Igrotum Ltd. name. And that means there's a registered address for them in the system at the copyrights offices.
Copyright 2024 © IGROTUM LTD.
Mega-clone sellers like Ziarex must be in jail because they sell watches with identical serial numbers as original watches, which is illegal.
No one buy from this website it is a botted comment advertising a scam website
Cancel them.
impressive
I tried many, but those guys are no joke, they sell something that you cannot buy anywhere else.
I was delusional before, thinking only China could make replicas, but now I know even Italy and Switzerland make them too, and ZiaRex is their representative.
If someone in China or Vietnam can make a watch that sells for $1200 which someone who looks at real ones all day can't look at and immediately conclusively say it's a fake without pulling out a magnifying glass then the real thing isn't worth anywhere close to $80,000...
Facts
how is the warranty on the fake? how is the customer service on the fake? how many point of sale authorized dealers does the fake have? how much time went into engineering and designing the fake from nothing. how much does the fake company spend on marketing? how many sports do they sponsor?
@@ThaGreatestAlexander warranty lmao, just get a new one every year till the day you pass away and still be spending less than a real one
because marketing and sponsored sports are like 90% the msrp of a rolex, yeah we get it... can't they like just cut back on that BS it's a damn watch ffs
@@trailfork7815 they need retail outlets in expensive areas where rent is high. there is alot of thing that come with trying to hold that #1 position in the market that you dont get by being some loser counterfeiter copying it. the fact someone would consider owning a fake proves they would want the real thing but cant afford it. why else would they pretend to have a real thing. there are plenty of similar styles cheaper without being direct counterfeits
Buying from a counterfeiter in 2030: "Well, I can put you on the list for a Submariner clone, I see you have no purchase history with us. Perhaps I can interest you in a Milgauss clone in the meantime?"
😂😂😂😂
Lmao . There is a vid here on RUclips of an ex Rolex employee . He is basically said yes they are fully stocked all the time but will only sell you if they like you .
@@Ghosy01 Limiting supply is how they keep prices up. LOL
2030 the fakes will take over
2030 is too far away, some swiss superclone watch makers already have a 2 month waiting list for Daytonas that cost $2,500.
The meaning of a Rolex super clone is to remind you how hard you've been ripped off by the real ones.
Brilliant! But then again, they are not being ripped off - nobody is forcing them to buy a Rolex, a mass-produced watch (yes, they make more than 800,000 watches per year) that is nowhere close to being the best watch in the industry.
facts ,I've had super clones last over 10 years some more no issues
@@BOMBSQUADPYROTECHNICSsomething irrelevant but interesting. I have a 12year old chinise chronograph and a 6 year old Tissot chronograph that costed me 650$. After all these years, the swiss movement was broken and not the chinise. Just a point of view...
Rolex is the bigger scammers than these dbag criminals.
@@user-gc5vm9dn2hRolex build 1,2 million watches a year 😉
One day soon they will be undetectable
They already are, enless you open up the back
@@markcuban5915 all they need to do is put an original movement in and if the rest is fake would you get fooled and would there still be a profit in it?
@@Robert-cx2ou rolexmovements cannot be bought by third parties. If that would be the case then they would make an undetectable watch
@@fortnajtyou can get super replica movements commissioned. There are already undetectable reps out there 100%
@@britewires4305no sir. 4130 superclone movements have no microstellar balance wheels. The peacock/dandong region factory that produces those movements does not implement microstella regulation possibility.
If it takes this many “experts” to place them side by side and open them up to see if it’s real or not, it’s close enough for me. Where can I get one of those?
Ziarex. I bought a deep sea and my local jeweler that I buy my chains from thought it was real I told him I paid 13K HE SAID I got a fantastic deal. I don’t care it’s a clone I can never buy a real one bro go buy one now. There on sale $450
Where ??
On reptime. Reddit channel.
You want to live a lie?
@@notDonaldFagenyou want to give your money to scammers like Rolex who are ripping you off for their "brand"? Fucking pathetic. Rich people are the most pathetic embarrassment of humanity.
Well done Charlee for standing up to your dad and wanting to investigate more..... 😜
Saw a video on how they do super clone, the Chinese factories (the “good” ones) do go buy an authentic piece and will take the watch apart piece by piece and use high grade materials very close to the authentic counterpart… it’s very difficult to tell for us amateur enthusiasts to tell.
Have link?
@@miloscvetkovic2633reddit, reptime
The fakes are to the point of no return, you can get a VSF or C+ Rep. SUB, FOR UNDER $600, Top Tier without replacing parts with Genuine ones, and a Daytona right under $800 same thing...without having a Genuine to compare to next to it, people just can't be 100% sure 🤷
Chineses are learning from this video right now! :D
I just seen a super clone catalog from a dealer and let me tell you right now, it’s SCARY. I’m talking some of these were running genuine movements with real precious metals and real stones. I seen an omega snoopy that was 1:1 just like a genuine, the back had the rotating snoopy and planet and everything. Meteorite Daytonas that had REAL METEORITE DIALS. With genuine boxes to match.
you seen?
Those are called mods. If you get a Clean Submariner with the clone movement you pop a real Rolex dial, and hands on it. No one will be able to tell without opening it. That's what: $550 + 1200 + 600 so $2350.
Same, saw those catalogs just recently and the spaceship of snoopy and the earth rotating like the original one is on point.
I've never seen a clone over $700, some website say they have Swiss clones and are asking $1,000+, but the problem is there are no such thing as a Swiss clone!!
True
True there are no such things as 1200 or 1500 clones unless they’re overpaying a resealer.
There's a Swiss clone manufacturer that has a 2 month waiting list, his Daytonas cost $2,500, the casing is wrapped with 30grams of 18k gold and the Authorised dealers can't tell them apart from the genuine without taking them apart.
@@chukwuemekaozumba5858 where
They are Swiss clones because it's the MOVEMENT that's a Swiss movement which is legit but the rest is a clone
I bought a clone for $495 to see how good it was. It was so good that I sold my real Rolex that I had for 22 years to a Rolex dealer and bought a couple more cheap clones. One sucked, but the others are absolutely amazing. In a few years they will even get better. Funny thing is that everyone thought my real Rolex was fake anyway. Now I don't have to worry about losing my watch or getting it stolen and losing $15K. It really is a crazy thing. It is scary that jewelers and watch dealers are not certain what they are looking at.
^
@@foggycraw6758
Where you buy the replica?
I don't want a fake. What about they make their own reputable brand name, with a kept promise of warranty and service? Make it $1500 instead of $500 for honest customers whom one wants to keep happy with a kept brand promise. Make it half the price of a Seiko of comparable quality.
@@Evanstonian60201 I sold fake Rolex watches for years. Always replaced or refunded anyone who had an issue. True story.
@@Evanstonian60201Warranty? You can just buy a new replica every year for the rest of your life for cheaper than a real Rolex.
what this just means is that if you like the look of a Rolex and nothing else, just get one of these super clones especially if experts are having a hard time determining it's a fake
this is amazing! the more and more videos like this help refine these clones. Just make some notes from this video and refine the super clones!we can all get 500 bucks rolexes then
lol.......was thinking the same thing. I'll buy a super clone for $1000.
Super quick and easy way to spot is the balance in the lack of the Microstela adjustment.
Great video. Just a pity you didn't let us see the differences side-by-side.
😂😂😂these guys really having a hard time,,,love the clone
If you buy a Rolex, also buy its superclone. Keep the real one safe.
So who’s going to be wearing the real one when u rock the replica ?
@@sammyg805The dude that will rob you
@@sammyg805He's keeping it locked away in his safe ,which completely defeats the purpose of having a watch if you ask me
@@sammyg805 no one. you let it sit pristine and sell it for 10x the price 25 years later to fund your last vacation on planet earth
I would’ve really loved a voiceover explaining a leeeetle bit of what was going on.
I have a 16800 Sub and a clone with a broken bracelet that I found in a thrift shop. I fixed the bracelet on the clone and I've been wearing it for over 2 years and it's all good, keeps perfect time and it's only 4gms difference in the weight! 😬
Good throwback video; I remember seeing this one before. Crazy how close these fakes are getting
Good to see Erick and you guys working together again.
I agree, but this is an old video, like two years ago IIRC.
A load of these came to Uk 9 weeks ago. And the biggest buyers are "Watch dealers" They are going to be swapping out parts as ALWAYS . Repair places are well known for swapping out parts and Jewels .
I buy my god Rolex for 50$ , 30 years ego. Still in good condition and working very good. Today value will be 250$ or more. I will never sell it. I love my gold Rolex of 50$ give me a lot of good memories.
You think your gold rolex is worth $250 ,I'll give you $300 no problems
@@davidmellish3295
Is fake Rolex. Sorry 😢
i mean the fake watchmakers from swissarex are so innovative that they can make an actual rolex with less money, and profit!yt
So then, why buy a Rolex? Is it about telling time or impressing people?
Why don't they do the right thing and start their own brand?
@@chuckcribbs3398 it’s a social Satus or symbol of wealth
Aka people are dumb. But I did see one guy get a job at a bank because he was able spark a conversation about a Rolex he was wearing to the branch manager
What's crazy is even the Swiss themselves are making fakes. Now how the hell are we supposed to spot a SWISS made fake?? Are these done by disgruntled/fired workers who decided to go out on their own and flood a small portion of the market with fake watches? Now how difficult would it be to establish provenance if the watch was built and exported from Switzerland but was never authorized by the brand it's ripping off? Would you simply look for a serial number and call the brand to see if there is a SECOND watch using that same number?
if it’s that hard to tell, we are all fucked
That’s why I bought super clones. Rolex is the most fake watch in he world. What did you expect?
@@pomp4401 but yet you are buying fake versions of them 🤣🤣
@@steelsteez6118 i can buy the real ones anytime and any price I want in grey market. My 3 real estate will take of my retirement, not Rolex watches 😎
NO, Rolex
Literally can't tell enless you open the back
I do not understand why these "experts" look at the movement for so long in order to determine if it is genuine. What the hell is he talking? The Rolex's hands are sharp and the other one is like "grgrgr"... :D The other guy mentions the screws that hold the movement and the fact that they have scratches. Dude just look at the balance wheel, there is no need to even take a loupe out and inspect the crappy finishing. Honestly I look at this video as an anti-advertisement of your company. 5 People that claim to be experts cannot determine that this is a CF Daytona for probably 30+minutes...
My thoughts exactly. If they are really trying that hard, then I do not have much confidence in the dealer.
Mr, are you regrets to choice the Rolex in first place to had bought with or trying to say that the Rolex is still the common watch to "invest" with? The looks of the watch is that it's targeted to common people anyway!
You really need to watch more videos on superclones as they're some out there that show them side by side under magnification and it's SO HARD to tell the difference, you may be able to with this one but an expert goes through everything and it's amazing just how close some superclones are now
So I have yet to see a replica with with true free sprung and timing screws in the balance, that should have give it up inmediately, unless the watch is a Franken. Did you guys hack that movement?
Soo, I actually found some really good “TD’s” (trusted rep dealers) when I was building my first manufacturing business in China. The super clones they can make now are so good, I could bring you one right now and you wouldn’t know unless you literally disassemble the movement itself. They’re that good. These dealers actually test the beats per second, do full QC checks for the customer, the whole 9 yards. I bet you a real Rolex, that I can bring you a super clone from someone I know… and if you can’t spot the differences… let me keep the real gen watch. You can pick the watch. Any mainstream watch, I have a master replica watch maker that has made that model his life’s work. Wanna try it? I’ll even fly to Miami to do this with you. 🤝 Would be great content too. 👍
And P.S…. These aren’t little cheap clones that you might find on the internet or in the forum chats. Each model has a specific guy that knows every single little detail. Knows more about the watch then you or I will ever. Can tell you the weight of each part inside the movement kinda detail.
I’d watch this episode, crazy if they are really that good , but what do they cost compared to the real ones? Surely u get to a point u might as well save the extra 50% and get the real deal instead of a couple thousand dollars on a fake? Either way sounds a good episode if what u say is true
I would watch
@@KYLE_FROM_THE_FUTURE Calm down, RWI has gotten you too worked up. QCs are standard for most TDs on RWI, RWG, etc. Don't overstate it to the point of the illusion of being so exclusive.
Disassemble the movement? Mate I just need to look at the balance wheel and I'll tell you immediately if it is a fake or not.
Although I had doubts about buying a replica watch, gussl dispelled my doubts. The watch has an authentic look and feel.
Given the slippery nature of this clone industry I'm waiting to hear about people selling regular clones as super clones for a bigger buck.
I wear my fake Breitling now and again, it cost me about 40 pound in Thailand, makes me laugh more people comment on my fake watch than my real Omega Seamaster lol
I have a fake microtech knife and if you have them side by side it’s obvious but it works perfectly. It was $30 vs over $250. lol. I just bought it for the meme but it’s actually good
Buying a fake Breitling eh
There are so many people out there wearing a fake and didn’t even know. Also in the dealerships. I don’t thrust most dealers.
Los amigos de CRM son LOS MEJORES!
2:42 the legend of this channel.
1. noticed those all ppl wearing CRM Jewel black shirts sound like Erick
2. watch makers from China "thank you for your feedback, we'll make them better next time"
I have a real 126610 sub and a super clone and they are nearly identical. Even with my loop. My local Rolex dealer was shocked and actually couldn't tell the difference which is scary!!
What is scary is that your local Rolex dealer is probably incomptetent.
Where did you get the super clone? Been trying to find a legit supplier for months
Which clone did you buy?
I would guess that within another ten years the super clones will be indistinguishable from the real thing.
owned Rolexs for over 20 years!!! with clones this good looks like its better value to have a clone
But you will know its fake, won’t feel real to you
@@josephgindi3116why pay $10k when you can get a vsf for $400 that's almost 1:1?
Superclones are like 800 to 1300€ bp from 380 to 700 € aaa+ from 160 to 380€ aaa+ you have it in chinese 2813 or yapanese or in eta swiss yesterday i bought a ap skeleton aaa+ eta ❤
I woudlve loved to see the movement on the clone
I ordered me a super clone! Day date and it’s beautiful. I got a Daytona with the skeleton face coming also lol. More than happy with the super clones!
By chance, would you tell me where I can get a super clone?
@@TucsonPete1028No ,strangely enough on every video about superclone watches there is always someone who says they have one and it's fantastic etc but not one will say where they got it when asked, it's almost like they're lying 😅
Does a superclone have new style box and papers?
You could yes.. easily for very cheap
thats Eric, WATCH YOUR STYLE
Look what I saw! Haha love it, like kids in a candy store
If it's that close to the real one, buy the fake, no one will know.
The guy is 100% wrong. You can get a Clean or VSF perfect clone for $600-$800. $1200 is the same as the $750 just charging more.
This is why it is not worth owning or buying a Rolex. There are just too many fakes out there, and you don't know if you're buying one or worse yet, wearing one.
I’d almost rather buy the fake knowing it’s fake than risk buying a real one for real money to find out it’s a fake.
It took 10 minutes, using loop for him
. To spot the fake one.. omg
“They owed him some money so go see what you can get for it”. What a crock. That’s that dudes watch. He’s lying and seeing if he can pass off his junk with that weak story to go along with it. Come on
Where can I get a super clone explorer ll White face?
if it's that hard to tell the fake from the real one, then the real one is way overpriced.
I love my Rolex watches but I am buying super clones from now on. With modern technology in manufacturing, Rolex watches should have gone down in price over the years. The way the watch market is manipulated is disgusting.
I've seen some superclones at my dealer. The only way I could say it was a clone is to have the real one for comparaison.
The only thing I duno, is where to buy those SC (my dealer wouldn't tell me 😅)
I recorded a video of this watch, you can take a look at it，if you have interest in the watch you can contact me
should i get a high end Seiko or super clone? i am leaning toward super clone
if a $500 watch is this good how does one even justify that 80k
manufacturing is like 1k on a civil country, 79k is to pay for the formula 1 ads?
Average person won’t be able to tell, so be happy for the guy who is wearing the $500, imitation is the best compliment. In todays technology, these watches are only decorative accessories. We have Iwatch now
I own a CF 114060 and a vsf 114060.. Crazy how gen they look. Both under $500. He's probably talking about Noob V10, they arent $1k tho
Does anyone have a link for this?
I have a CF/noob v3 that 3 Rolex dealers couldn’t tell it was a clone. For $1200 it’s by far the closest thing
from where
You mind sharing your dealer? I’d really appreciate it
Do tell...
@richardlabonte5813 You just payed way to much for it.
puretimewatches
@@sladearena9285
I wish Anthony Farrer was there to school these guys in luxury watches, he was very well spoken, more so than these guys. Also, Anthony had great business sense and knew how to make a deal. These guys act like they’re in some Brooklyn basement swapping stories while Anthony had a huge classy store in Beverly Hills handling business
AM I THE ONLY PERSON THAT KEEP THINKING THIS GUY WITH THE HAT LOOKS LIKE TURTLE FROM ENTOURAGE. 😂😂😂😂
You can get a Noob for less than 1200. The replicas are getting scary good. I'd be really cautious buying from an individual if you're in the market for a high end watch.
Noob 1200 🤣 noob est largué depuis longtemps, d'autres usines font un travail exceptionnel
Rolex needs to make more security measures for the watches they make as to discourage fakes
If you have to break out a loupe to barely determine if one is fake then you've already been fooled. To the naked eye they are identical.
if it takes that much study from multiple watch experts then it's worth the cash
Experts....ehhh...lol
If some factory in china can make a
Clone so close to the original for so cheap, tell me WHY a genuine Rolex is so expensive when these fakes are so close almost undetectable to experts?????
Because the factory in China doesn't have to invest in R&D for new movements, design and marketing. That's the expensive part, not the actual watch itself. They are just riding on Rolex's success.
Because...marketing...and the "name."
Sll you need to do is hack the seconds get the movement to stop you will see oscillator weights on the balance on a real Rolex. Also the over coil and the blue parachrome spring is very blue and it is a free sprung balance so no curb regulation.
well one thing is clear swissarex bots are spamming the comment section, from what I saw noob/clean and a couple other factories in china are making some crazy good super clones
Man what's the point in buying real if experts can't even tell
Easiest way to tell a clone is to open the watch and see if its a free sprung or a regulated balance. The super clone industry has always had a problem putting free sprung balances on the movements because the tolerances are not as good. They are just now starting to buy real rolex bridges and free sprung balances and putting them on the new clone movements VS3135 I believe. But still have to upgrade those parts after purchase. Other ways to tell quickly is the rough hands, as they are stamped out at the factory and not polished like rolex does. Also check the cyclops magnifying crystal. It will always have a black hole effect on a real one and not reflective like on a fake because of the anti reflective they put on the back of the cyclops at rolex. There is also some other signs as well. I can elaborate if someone wants to know more.
The main man got his hair cut and no longer looks homeless ,, Cheers from Manchester UK
I own two SCG Omega's. I've compared them side by side in a jewellers and even the jeweller was stunned at how good they were. He picked out very subtle differences compared to originals, something you wouldn't be able to do just by looking at them. The cost for two originals is around £25,000. The cost for my two SCG, just under £600.
where did u buy them..? im poor :(
@@kungogge3047 don't own a watch if you can't afford it
@@Stevenishoits not even about not being able to afford it. The real ones are very quickly becomong obsolete.
Even if you have 20 million, why spent 300k on a watch that you can get for 500-1000 and litterly noone will ever know.
Who cares.
I did it in lower amount. I can afford an omega seamaster everyday of the week, but I bought a fake because to me, its exactly the same. If someone asks me ill proudly tell them its fake. I dont wair the watch for someone else, I ware it because I like the watch. I'm not going to pay 20x more for exactly the same product.
I’ve been trying to find a legit supplier for months. Please share where you got it , you’d be my hero
@@sladearena9285 I bought it in Bangkok, they just sell them in shopping malls. It was a lot cheaper and I could see them before buying. Too be honest, online your always going to take a risk. I would try superclones something. They seem very legit, but truly haven't got s clue + they are more expensive (bought mine for 100 euro, online often they are around 400-5]0
when someone owes you $5000 and wants to give you their daytona. insist on the $5000 in money.
Hey, here's a thought. Maybe don't leave at the disassembled watches unseparated on the same work top. You're having such a hard time spotting the "fakes" how are you not mixing them up?
Soon the clones will be perfect. Is it fake, if it is the same?
Few companies make the interal movement what you pay for is external look of the Watch
The real super clone is from Factory C.. 4000 Chinese Yuan.. And it's so good that there are even immitations on Factory C super clones watches..
I got myself a super clone
Datejust 41 green Motiv
You wanna know why?
I am not gonna pay double the retail, because people are so crazy.
And if I go to Rolex they treat my like shit.
I invest the money in my business, I have a nice watch, and the experience with the Chinese dealer was lovely. A lot better than with official Rolex dealers!!
from who?
@@tiagocosta9535 I got myself a real one now.
The name of the store was theonewatchw
@@tiagocosta9535 theoneeatches
But I got a real one now too
3D printers changed the game. Only an idiot would buy an authentic when the clones are this good now.
Who buys luxury watches from clowns wearing baseball hats backwards.
And Purple Rain denim jackets...
If the internals work as well as the real one, might as well lol
CRM❤
So where do they buy these superclones?
Interesting to see how accurate clone movement. Usually even super clone has accuracy like cheap NH35
You make a great case for buying a fake instead. lol
China is here watching taking 📝 notes 😂😂
It would have been cool to actually see a side by side
The real thing is that. Even the blueish dial was made by rolex on the forst daytons with nowadays design like that. So they copied the older dials
$300k watch? Boy, they seen you coming!
In this time, you should ALWAYS authenticate a Rolex. The fake market is so damn good now on a Rolex it’s super super super hard to differentiate. Which, ironically, speaks volumes on the makings of a Rolex. Yes, they can duplicate other watches, but Rolex now.. its almost not worth getting a real one.
I got clones that you won’t be able to tell the difference
There are rumors that igrotum has the Rolex database of serial numbers and sells replicas with the same serial numbers as the originals
Maybe if the watches weren’t priced to the stratosphere, causing normal ppl unable to afford. I will happy buy a super clone !
If u cant get it from the Dealer u might as well get a Rep. They created the problem.
I bought a super clone from HK without knowing it is a clone and used it for almost a year nd sold it for 3000 euros in Germany. Lqter the person, who bought this came back to me and said the fake ps i sold to him.