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They already have. Have you seen the new ARF tungsten day date model? 99.5% the same watch, 99% the same weight, plated 10 microns thick of real 18k gold. Almost impossible to tell, even when openening them up. With the new generation movements comming out too. I think in 2025 we will finally see the 99.9% perfect rep.
Actually the chinese version was way more precise in rolex logo and printings than original 😂.only part that was problem it was on the back with those numbers 3035 😂😂😂
So fakes now have better printing technique than the real deal .... we are now in the real of ... oh thats fake, the real letters have more imperfections
@@wreagfe Indeed, the clone parts are interchangeable with the genuine parts. I have heard of people creating a sort of 'Frankenstein Watch' using genuine & clone parts at a fraction of the cost of a 100% genuine.
What we said is that the edges of the number 20 are not as precise as in the Rolex watch, which is true. The overspray is not really visible to the naked eye and even if you were to say that the crown in the replica is "better," the actual watch is still not "better," not by far.
@@Crmjewelers Thats what most people don't get. 100 years from now a well serviced rolex will be able to sell for a decent amount. The fake? Well taken care of sure. But it won't hold 50+ years like a rolex.
China has already made cars that are much faster and better than European supercars. Switzerland can only make watches that are sold at inflated prices because they want to profit a lot and deceive buyers.
Well a day is 24 hours, 1440 minutes, 86400 seconds. The real was out by 6 seconds per day so 86406/86400, an error of .0069% The fake was out 11 seconds 86411/86400 an error rate 0f .0127 % So the real watch has half the error rate of the fake, the real watch is 43% more accurate than the fake. In REAL terms this means you must set your fake weekly to remain within a minute of GMT, the genuine only needs to be reset every 10 days. Make of that what you will. PS I suspect a thorough service, clean lube and regulation of the fake would improve those numbers by several seconds per day.
@@diznutz5110 That's why they all have to use a microscope to spot the difference. Super clones are really good from outside, from inside it's super easy to see.
Just keep on paying Rolex inflated prices for mass produced watches, artificial shortage and unfriendly customer practices. These watches can be had 10x cheaper for 90% of the quality. Remember REAL value and workmanship can't be replicated.
They spend so much money, time and effort to produce fakes. Same thing with China’s knife industry. They learned to produce their own brands of high end knives and there is a market for them surprisingly. Why not produce Chinese luxury watches, there’s idiots that would buy them.
It's kind of funny isn't it? Like a petulant child destroying a toy out of spite. Other than some attempted moral grand standing, nothing has been accomplished. The factories in China are still there, still improving the quality of their products, and (thousands?) of people are still spending money on them. Hundreds of workers in China get a belly full of rice for their work in the factory and their kids don't go hungry. And if some rich D.B. feels a little less special about his widdle self cause the bag boy at Safeway has a watch that looks identical to his own, right down to the laser etching....I can live with that.
$400 vs $10,000. Not much difference in appearance these days. And if people are really worried just go ahead and buy the super clone and buy a genuine bezel insert and a genuine dial. 99% issues solved. The whole point of super-clones is that you can wear a watch that looks like $10,000 on your wrist and if it ever gets stolen it's only $400 out of your pocket.
Fakes in any industry always get better over time, but the reality is that the majority of people don't get fakes so they can be a few hundred dollars out of pocket if the watch gets stolen. The great majority do so because they want others to pretend that they have a real luxury watch on. I would much rather get an authentic model from another brand for a few hundred dollars that still looks good. What's the obsession with having a Rolex at any cost? 🤷
@Crmjewelers I guess it ultimately depends on the person buying the rep. There are many many people out there who NEED to wear a rolex at any cost. Others like me buy the watch I think looks the best to me and on my wrist. I don't buy watches for others to look at. They are for me to appreciate. If I travel to a less reputable country and by chance get robbed, I'd rather they take my $400 rep than my $10,000 gen. Whatever you wear, wear it in good health.
I hear you Mike, but the safest option if you're worried that someone will rob you is not to wear a fake watch, but not to wear one at all. The guy robbing you will probably not know the watch is fake and may still hurt you in the process. Someone's safety is way more important than their money and I totally disagree that certain people can't live without a Rolex. I say it's more important for someone to live within their means and be grateful for the truly important things in their life than getting a warm and fuzzy feeling inside from wearing a Rolex...or should I say, Folex?
@Crmjewelers That's true, the safest option would be not to wear anything at all. But then what is the fun in life if we're not going take risks? I just mean to mitigate the risk as much as I can while enjoying life as much as I can as well.
True, but I can just as easily enjoy life wearing a Casio my friend. The benefits of not risking my life are much greater than the feeling of wearing a luxury watch. 🤷
The reason he got scammed is that the fake has a clean and smooth finish, unlike the real one, which has detailed craftsmanship. Most buyers don't care about the details; it's the clean finish that most fake Rolex manufacturers achieve. I think Rolex should focus on this issue. Their brand will be damaged if they continue to manufacture watches in a way that doesn't meet the expectations of the average buyer's eye. We compared two authentic two-toned Rolex Submariner watches, and even the two authentic ones didn't have the same finish. This highlights a problem with Rolex: they claim all their watches use similar materials with precision, but that's not always the case.
Hahahahaha…. So you just proved that in terms of quality to price ratio, you will receive a superior quality with a replica, and that’s under a 30x magnification.
@@Crmjewelers yes. Watched the entire thing. I own 6 Genuine Rolex watches. One of them, the GMT Pepsi was purchased from my AD last May. The hour hand is 6 minutes behind the hour. That means the minute hand shows past the hour and the hour hand is still behind the hour marker. And the watch switches date at 12:05 instead of midnight. Not even genuine Rolex watches pass the QC always. I’ve seen replicas and I always wonder why I’ve spent so much money on my gens. I’m never selling, so who’s ripping me off here? The authentic pieces or if I buy the replica?
I have to agree with you. Also you are comparing a cheap replica with a real Rolex. Try to do the same comparison with a top end replica and you’ll find that even the accuracy is closer compared to the real deal.
Allot of people buy the original and a fake copy. They keep the original at home in a safe. And wear the fake ones... Just incase it gets lost, stolen or scratched
To be honest with you, you have not convinced me into spending an additional 15 grand on a watch that less than one percent of humans on the planet earth can even tell the difference of 🤷♂️
I was a machinist and I can tell you this when watches were made in Switzerland by hand it would somewhat justify the cost because of limited production but now even Rolex uses CNC codes for parts and these high end clones can get the exact tolerance during the milling process the polishing in the end may be different and the base metal like gold platinum or 904 steel but the machines to make them are the same so honestly from what I know and have worked on many different production runs I think in terms of quality vs cost you make out better with a very high quality replica because all your paying for is the name
My opinion means nothing in the grand scheme, but Rolex AD’s created part of this problem by not selling to anyone off the street. If you can’t buy from AD and don’t want to pay in some cases crazy markup by grey market, what are you to do? I don’t have problem with reps, I have a problem when they are sold to unsuspecting buyers as genuine…not cool.
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Rolex: We are the Real Deal. China: We offer Value for Money deal at 1/20 of cost. In fact 1/100 cost clones using the super reliable Miyota 8215 movements are getting closer to super-clones, LOL. Plot twist: As a result, many owners are wearing clones while keeping their stickered genuine Rolex at home to retain their value. WTH wears a real $10K Rolex these days to subject them to scratches losing its value? It just does not make sense.
So true. If i see a pilot getting off a plane with a Rolex i think it real. If i see some dude dressed head to toe in designer with a rolex, i think its fake.
Its scary how close the replicas get to the originals. The only giveaway is the accuracy and movements balance wheel. But outside from that. You will never tell the difference, especially cause the companys making them invest a lot of money into making the fakes even more detailed.
I have the money to buy a Submariner, but it's no way in hell I'm justifying a 2+ year waiting list to then drop $10,000 on an authentic when VSF replicas look indistinguishable and tell time the same way. It's to the point where you're simply supporting a smug, price gouging, marketing ripoff. No piece of stainless steel is worth what these people are charging.
I feel the same. Even if I felt like spending some of my slush money, Rolex smug attitude pisses me off. I figure when I retire, I'll drop the hammer on a JLC MUT moonphase.
@@reefp5816 to develop a new mechanism for a "standard" automatic watch, costs around $3 million overall (design, project, prototyping, etc.), there's watches with more complication which would costs in the range of ten thousands or more. However after the repayment it's all income, for luxury watches they creates a "fake" scarcity to increase the bid (hence the prices). Clones however doesn't develop anything, they just copy.. the mechanism isn't reliable as the original ones (forget about it), neither the QA, however they aren't as bad as people would think. So the truth is in the middle.
I mean, counterfeit goods get better and better over time, whether we're talking about luxury watches or something else. However, fake will always mean fake, despite the owner's attempt to deceive others. When it comes to watches, an actual Rolex will always be more durable and better...Oh, and real.
@@CrmjewelersAs you've commented elsewhere here; I'd rather have a real Hamilton or Tissot, Seiko etc and be proud of it, than willingly getting a superclone Rolex. There are fake MoonSwatches all over marketplace. Except those are actually priced as real ones to scam people.
There is no Dang Dong 3230, the old VSF 114060 with the Dang Dong 3130 clone is probably the best Rolex clone ever, the current VSF 124060 (which is what this is) is superb but has a ghost date. The Clean 124060 uses a dressed up 3130 movement.
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$10,000? When was the last time you checked pricing on Rolex Subs? Used ones go for upwards of $30k. Believe it or not, brand new, if you don't die on a waiting list, will set you back about $20k-25k
@@peteygnycas of 9-4-24 they're still around $9500 for black on black. The hulk gets around double that. But imo neither are worth that much, I'm not paying for their F1 team when I buy a watch
If you wear the fake and tell people it's a fake, they'll probably think it's real, and if you tell them it's real, they'll probably think it's fake. Just steer clear of anyone strolling down the street carrying a $7000 stereo microscope, and it'll be your secret to keep. Oh, and adjust the time by 11 seconds instead of 6.
And you still won't be able to tell the difference. This video and others on RUclips clearly show that, unless you have a microscope and someone is willing to let you inspect their timepiece, and you know what you look for, and you have a genuine watch with you for comparaison, you will never be able to tell for sure which one is the real one. Sad but just the truth...
Grey market is getting scary. Gotta gotta gotta get it under a scope. If the seller pushes back in any way to having a piece checked, I'm out. Personally, an extra $1-2K to buy from a trusted dealer who invested in the equipment to check EVERYTHING coming through is worth peace of mind. CRM is definitely on the short list of sellers I 💯 trust.
Rolex is well aware about re-sellers, grey market, demand for certain models. Being fully aware and keeping up the fake hype in the market is unethical practise. I am sure many of the fake watch buyers were actually genuine watch buyers, but sick and tired of the fake hype and waiting list.
I've been fortunate to own a few Rolexes in my collection, bought from trusted dealers. However I'm at the point where I want to add a Pepsi GMT to it, however I'm tired of playing stupid games with ADs and don't want to pay £5k over retail for one either lol. I've literally just bought a super clone, the blue turns complete red just like the gen under UV light. Next to a gen pepsi, it's honestly like for like. Movement is a complete clone, yes given under a loop magnification finish isn’t as rolex standard. That being said its accurate as hell and lasts up to 70hrs. Found a watchmaker who serviced and pressure tested. With super clones on the rise more and more watchmakers service super clones ( so ignore anyone who says no watchmaker would touch it) Is it to show off i have a Pepsi? No anyone asks I'll say its a clone. I just really love the look of it. I could buy one in the grey market today but its the principle of not getting ripped off. I mean for £500 thats a win...
Hi, I have been watching your videos. I am interested to buy a very super clone Rolex GMT master 2 or a submariner super clone. Could you please share the address where I can purchase one. Thank you in advance.
The sad thing is the replicas are getting so good that unless your an expert and understand microscopic techniques you can not tell the difference. The Rolex will cost you tens of thousands the super clone is about £1000 and there’s not much difference between the two watches.
It is so disgusting to watch someone break a watch with a hammer; regardless of whether it is original or not, this product has already been made and deserves at least to be given as a gift. I don't think you really like watches, but rather money, it's pathetic.
@@Crmjewelers Lol. You think there is no pretension from somebody who's wealthy enough to be a full-price mug? 85% of the price of a real Rolex is in the name. What's the name? Clever marketing. The clone isn't the pretension, it's the finger to the BS.
Hold on a second…so the clone has a cleaner dial with no over spay and at 30x magnification looks better than real? Huh….thinks I will get a clone and save $9400 and a two year wait list or $13,400 on the grey market…
The edges on the real crown have microscopic dots due to their painting process. "The edges of the crown on the super clone are sharper and more defined." The complex and less precise overspray painting process costs approximately $10k in the manufacturing process.
You can say that all collectibles or luxury goods are a scam until you realize that you can't because human psychology and taste cannot really be justified.
i know somebody high up in a major chinese watch factory when asked if he thought there where many or much difference between fake and real he replied yes the differences are there for a reason so we can release the next version if we made the perfect watch people need not buy again and he laughed its bad business too be perfect he finished by saying if rolex can make one we can THE END
My genuine 114060 runs 4+ seconds a day. My Clean Factory BLNR has a rate of +1 seconds a day, 0.0 beat error, and 284 amplitude 🤣 By that margin, my rep is more efficient than both mine and your gen lol. Luckily, my gen is still within its 5 years warranty by 1 month, so hopefully I can get it back to +/-2s per day
So, with only so few minor differences, it begs the question...where is all the money value in the genuine watch when a 99% replica can be created for such a small portion of the Rolex cost. ....oh yea, that's right. A huge profit justified by the marketing.
All the dudes that paid over 12k for their sub are punching the air 😂. The reps keep getting better. At the end of the day if you wear a real one or a fake no one gives a shit
You all got it wrong. A real rolex submariner doesn't cost Rolex $10,000 to make it. It costs them around $2000. These superclones cost about $1000. Now you see why they're so close in quality. You don't buy a rolex because purely of its looks. It makes you feel like a boss and makes you work harder. Its also a nice feeling knowing it goes up in value as you wear it. A fake doesn't offer you this. You will feel like crap wearing it. When I wore fakes, I always had to hide my wrist cause I was scared someone would ask if it was real, or say "nice rolex"
It's scary how good these fakes have gotten. I wonder how long it will be until they hit their ceiling and it's no longer possible to refine them further without being cost prohibitive?
@@Crmjewelers I agree. I mean how much better can they get, without being done by Rolex themselves. The reality is no one is going to know unless you do a thorough look through like this. I hope ppl dont get duped but many ppl can’t afford a submariner or rolex for that matter and if it can help their career by striking a conversation with someone who can help them then I say go for it. It really is only helping g the biggest watch brand if more “Rolexes” are on wrists. I don’t condone it but it’s never going to stop and they will only get better and better . So buy from an authorized dealer or well know grey dealer like CRM if you are an enthusiast or have the money and let the ppl who can’t afford these amazing timepieces enjoy what we love :) peace in the world !!
@@hallovelo2478 depends on model but I would say the cost of production on a new sub date it less than 2000 euro maybe less with the economies of scale
@@Timepieceguy i would say it is about 500-1000 max for a 10k watch. But i lean more towards 500. I like the watches my country produce but the price don't reflect the value of the watch. it is marketing, status...whatever. Why should be the same watch wirh a gold case be 20k more than the steel case??? i mean it is a joke to think machining gold is 20k more difficult...
It’s crazy how these watches are looking more and more like the real thing, I did a video on a Super Clone that Patek AD tried to buy from me, it’s in my channel
Just require him to sign a disclosure that you are making no representations concerning the watch or its authenticity and that he is relying on his own expertise in evaluating the item and you should be safe from allegations of fraud. But actually selling a fake may be illegal where you considered making the deal.
fakes are getting better, support them and make them even better. Say no to overpriced dealers and compare between vsf and gen instead of 2nd tier fakes.
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I'm glad your taking fakes off the market !!! Satisfying seeing it hammered and smelted 👍
China: “thanks for the feedback! We’ll improve our quality”
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Exactly what I tought
They already have. Have you seen the new ARF tungsten day date model? 99.5% the same watch, 99% the same weight, plated 10 microns thick of real 18k gold. Almost impossible to tell, even when openening them up. With the new generation movements comming out too. I think in 2025 we will finally see the 99.9% perfect rep.
If the Chinese made Rolex first, the real Rolex would be a copy 😂
So…. I can stay on “the list” and never get to pay $10k, instead I can pay 1/20th now and get something that’s 99.9% the same? Sign me up.
Yeah, you just have to avoid anyone walking around with a 30X magnifying glass critiquing the most minute amount of over spray.
Or complain about the lack of overspray on the replica, because the genuine has more overspray due to their method.
It would be good for you to know that the price of a fake watch is pure zero.
Actually the chinese version was way more precise in rolex logo and printings than original 😂.only part that was problem it was on the back with those numbers 3035 😂😂😂
What rolex does is creates an illusion of value, attracting attention but in reality, it only to rip off consumers.
If we have to look under a microscope at 30x to barely tell any difference, I have some rethinking to do
55x, not 30x. But I totally agree with you.
and in some aspects the replica looks better finished to me...at least when i watch it on my phonescreen.🤡
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Have you seen the video? It's all obvious by the casebacks and crowns @ 3:30 already
Exactly. No one is scrutinizing your watch on your wrist to that level.
So fakes now have better printing technique than the real deal .... we are now in the real of ... oh thats fake, the real letters have more imperfections
Destroying the watch sounded like an angry shareholder of Rolex
It’s great. The only one complaining are the flippers and watch stores. You reap what you sow. 😂
And he destroyed real ones suddenly😂😂😂
The fake looks better in some areas better than the real.
Seems like the best option is to have a real movement in a fake case. Best of both worlds!
@@wreagfe Or just a cheap ETA-Valjoux movement. I think Rolex used to do that, too.
YUP!
@@wreagfe Indeed, the clone parts are interchangeable with the genuine parts. I have heard of people creating a sort of 'Frankenstein Watch' using genuine & clone parts at a fraction of the cost of a 100% genuine.
@@wreagfe hahahahahahah that is genius
I disagree on the “submariner” lettering. The fake looked cleaner.
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What we said is that the edges of the number 20 are not as precise as in the Rolex watch, which is true. The overspray is not really visible to the naked eye and even if you were to say that the crown in the replica is "better," the actual watch is still not "better," not by far.
pretty much everything thats wrong is not visible to the naked eye anyways@@Crmjewelers
@@Crmjewelers Thats what most people don't get. 100 years from now a well serviced rolex will be able to sell for a decent amount. The fake? Well taken care of sure. But it won't hold 50+ years like a rolex.
China has already made cars that are much faster and better than European supercars. Switzerland can only make watches that are sold at inflated prices because they want to profit a lot and deceive buyers.
*So 99% of appearance 93% accuracy in time keeping at 3% of the cost with no waiting list.*
_What a difficult choice!_
Well a day is 24 hours, 1440 minutes, 86400 seconds.
The real was out by 6 seconds per day so 86406/86400, an error of .0069%
The fake was out 11 seconds 86411/86400 an error rate 0f .0127 %
So the real watch has half the error rate of the fake, the real watch is 43% more accurate than the fake. In REAL terms this means you must set your fake weekly to remain within a minute of GMT, the genuine only needs to be reset every 10 days. Make of that what you will.
PS I suspect a thorough service, clean lube and regulation of the fake would improve those numbers by several seconds per day.
I've said it a million times: On the wrist no one, and I mean NO ONE can tell it's a replica.
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@@diznutz5110you couldn’t though
Have you seen the video? It's all obvious by the casebacks and crowns @3:30 already
@@diznutz5110 - If I were standing 10' from you wearing that VSF Sub in the video, you would NOT be able to tell it's a replica.
@@diznutz5110 That's why they all have to use a microscope to spot the difference.
Super clones are really good from outside, from inside it's super easy to see.
I would lose sleep knowing my fake did not have a blue para-chrome hairspring!
Just keep on paying Rolex inflated prices for mass produced watches, artificial shortage and unfriendly customer practices.
These watches can be had 10x cheaper for 90% of the quality. Remember REAL value and workmanship can't be replicated.
Bro your comment is 100% contradictory!!! Makes no sense
More like 99% of the quality for 1% of the price.
@@salimf2286 he's very confused, lol
CNC machines are expensive
They spend so much money, time and effort to produce fakes. Same thing with China’s knife industry. They learned to produce their own brands of high end knives and there is a market for them surprisingly. Why not produce Chinese luxury watches, there’s idiots that would buy them.
I hear the superclone makers have perfected the red and blue ceramic. Maybe Rolex should reach out to them 😂
lol
Really! They should. outsourcing!
Plot twist: the real was destroyed
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...he couldn't tell either...lol
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Every time I see someone spitefully destroying these excellent replicas it just makes me want one even more. Cheers lads.
Me too
It's kind of funny isn't it? Like a petulant child destroying a toy out of spite.
Other than some attempted moral grand standing, nothing has been accomplished. The factories in China are still there, still improving the quality of their products, and (thousands?) of people are still spending money on them.
Hundreds of workers in China get a belly full of rice for their work in the factory and their kids don't go hungry. And if some rich D.B. feels a little less special about his widdle self cause the bag boy at Safeway has a watch that looks identical to his own, right down to the laser etching....I can live with that.
When I’m walking the streets of the world I carry a microscope just for this
Rolex = over spray on dial! My $25 Addiesdive quartz sub homage has a pristine crisp dial under 10x.
$400 vs $10,000. Not much difference in appearance these days. And if people are really worried just go ahead and buy the super clone and buy a genuine bezel insert and a genuine dial. 99% issues solved.
The whole point of super-clones is that you can wear a watch that looks like $10,000 on your wrist and if it ever gets stolen it's only $400 out of your pocket.
Fakes in any industry always get better over time, but the reality is that the majority of people don't get fakes so they can be a few hundred dollars out of pocket if the watch gets stolen. The great majority do so because they want others to pretend that they have a real luxury watch on. I would much rather get an authentic model from another brand for a few hundred dollars that still looks good. What's the obsession with having a Rolex at any cost? 🤷
@Crmjewelers I guess it ultimately depends on the person buying the rep. There are many many people out there who NEED to wear a rolex at any cost. Others like me buy the watch I think looks the best to me and on my wrist. I don't buy watches for others to look at. They are for me to appreciate. If I travel to a less reputable country and by chance get robbed, I'd rather they take my $400 rep than my $10,000 gen.
Whatever you wear, wear it in good health.
I hear you Mike, but the safest option if you're worried that someone will rob you is not to wear a fake watch, but not to wear one at all. The guy robbing you will probably not know the watch is fake and may still hurt you in the process. Someone's safety is way more important than their money and I totally disagree that certain people can't live without a Rolex. I say it's more important for someone to live within their means and be grateful for the truly important things in their life than getting a warm and fuzzy feeling inside from wearing a Rolex...or should I say, Folex?
@Crmjewelers That's true, the safest option would be not to wear anything at all. But then what is the fun in life if we're not going take risks? I just mean to mitigate the risk as much as I can while enjoying life as much as I can as well.
True, but I can just as easily enjoy life wearing a Casio my friend. The benefits of not risking my life are much greater than the feeling of wearing a luxury watch. 🤷
Destroyed a perfectly good Rolex!
That's not perfect and it's surely not a Rolex.
@@Crmjewelers ...but I bet you couldn't tell the difference if you saw it on my wrist in a casino, chief.
@@peteygnyc Nope, even up close, they're that good.
@@Crmjewelers because of your video, I’m buying one, right now.
@@Crmjewelers…and no one actually cares.
The reason he got scammed is that the fake has a clean and smooth finish, unlike the real one, which has detailed craftsmanship. Most buyers don't care about the details; it's the clean finish that most fake Rolex manufacturers achieve.
I think Rolex should focus on this issue. Their brand will be damaged if they continue to manufacture watches in a way that doesn't meet the expectations of the average buyer's eye.
We compared two authentic two-toned Rolex Submariner watches, and even the two authentic ones didn't have the same finish. This highlights a problem with Rolex: they claim all their watches use similar materials with precision, but that's not always the case.
Funny how in some areas the fake actually looks better than the real. 2:11
Appearances can be deceiving 😉
Replica looks better than original
Because of the crown? 😂
The overspray on the Rolex diminishes the prestige of the watch in my opinion @@Crmjewelers
outside yes, but inside definitly not....but maybe soon
@@hallovelo2478 The overspray from Rolex makes it seem almost fake. You'd expect Rolex to have better quality control.
@@matthewlee2880 Rolex is not highend.
Patek is highend
Hahahahaha…. So you just proved that in terms of quality to price ratio, you will receive a superior quality with a replica, and that’s under a 30x magnification.
Did you watch the actual video?
@@Crmjewelers yes. Watched the entire thing. I own 6 Genuine Rolex watches. One of them, the GMT Pepsi was purchased from my AD last May. The hour hand is 6 minutes behind the hour. That means the minute hand shows past the hour and the hour hand is still behind the hour marker. And the watch switches date at 12:05 instead of midnight.
Not even genuine Rolex watches pass the QC always.
I’ve seen replicas and I always wonder why I’ve spent so much money on my gens. I’m never selling, so who’s ripping me off here? The authentic pieces or if I buy the replica?
@@EricZ726you sound like a larper. The Rolex is clearly keeping better time than the replica. Appearance and quality are 2 different things
I have to agree with you. Also you are comparing a cheap replica with a real Rolex. Try to do the same comparison with a top end replica and you’ll find that even the accuracy is closer compared to the real deal.
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They smashed the clone. Meanwhile we’re all surfing the Net ordering the same clone. 😂
Next time better divide it into molecules 😂
Allot of people buy the original and a fake copy. They keep the original at home in a safe. And wear the fake ones... Just incase it gets lost, stolen or scratched
What is the point of that?
@@gilessteve It means they bought the real for investment, not enjoyment.
To be honest with you, you have not convinced me into spending an additional 15 grand on a watch that less than one percent of humans on the planet earth can even tell the difference of 🤷♂️
And that doesn't tell time all that well, either.
@@wholeNwon time is short I know that
I was a machinist and I can tell you this when watches were made in Switzerland by hand it would somewhat justify the cost because of limited production but now even Rolex uses CNC codes for parts and these high end clones can get the exact tolerance during the milling process the polishing in the end may be different and the base metal like gold platinum or 904 steel but the machines to make them are the same so honestly from what I know and have worked on many different production runs I think in terms of quality vs cost you make out better with a very high quality replica because all your paying for is the name
And that is pretty much all people are paying for. There is noting special about the real Rolex to justify the outrageous cost.
My opinion means nothing in the grand scheme, but Rolex AD’s created part of this problem by not selling to anyone off the street. If you can’t buy from AD and don’t want to pay in some cases crazy markup by grey market, what are you to do? I don’t have problem with reps, I have a problem when they are sold to unsuspecting buyers as genuine…not cool.
I happened to meet a source boss on a business trip to Guangzhou, China, and bought a high imitation watch from him. Even someone like me who is a professional in design details can’t tell the difference between real and fake watches.😂😂 Now I will take turns wearing them😆😆. If you need a channel, I can recommend his contact information to you.
Where do we buy these replicas?
I have a friend
Patpong night market in Thailand
@@rolandtiffany1298 No, in MBK
Malachai at QC, he's the agent for the two best makers (VSF and Clean).
@@rolandtiffany1298one can you please help me get
Rolex: We are the Real Deal. China: We offer Value for Money deal at 1/20 of cost. In fact 1/100 cost clones using the super reliable Miyota 8215 movements are getting closer to super-clones, LOL. Plot twist: As a result, many owners are wearing clones while keeping their stickered genuine Rolex at home to retain their value. WTH wears a real $10K Rolex these days to subject them to scratches losing its value? It just does not make sense.
I heard the makers of the Superclones are using A.I. and within 2 years the movements, cases, dial, etc... will all be exact.
Even without AI 2025 is going to be huge.
The logo and writing look better on fake.
Agree. Especially the logo.
If you wear a real Rolex, most would think it’s a fake anyway so save your money and buy fake.
Unless you really want to know what time it is, then you buy a $2 quartz watch or just look at your phone.
Definitely the dumbest comment I've seen today. Those that want a Rolex should buy a real Rolex. Period.
So true. If i see a pilot getting off a plane with a Rolex i think it real. If i see some dude dressed head to toe in designer with a rolex, i think its fake.
@@JanoyCresva When I walk in the city with my Casio, the thieves think there's a guy not worth robbing. I like that.
Partially true,most will think it's real and others won't give a shit
Its scary how close the replicas get to the originals. The only giveaway is the accuracy and movements balance wheel. But outside from that. You will never tell the difference, especially cause the companys making them invest a lot of money into making the fakes even more detailed.
This has to be an "advert" for the fakes .
Nope. It's an educational video for consumers not to get ripped off.
As a chinese super clone manufacturer, thank you, we will try to make it better next time
If I wore a fake Rolex watch for twenty years and neither I nor anyone who saw it knew it was fake, did I really wear a fake Rolex ?
No one would know or care. If I knew it was a “replica” I would commend you for not wasting money to buy a brand and saving your money.
I have the money to buy a Submariner, but it's no way in hell I'm justifying a 2+ year waiting list to then drop $10,000 on an authentic when VSF replicas look indistinguishable and tell time the same way. It's to the point where you're simply supporting a smug, price gouging, marketing ripoff. No piece of stainless steel is worth what these people are charging.
I feel the same. Even if I felt like spending some of my slush money, Rolex smug attitude pisses me off. I figure when I retire, I'll drop the hammer on a JLC MUT moonphase.
The Emperors new clothes...
If you actually don't like the brand, why buy it? Or why buy the replica?
Honestly, how they justify to sell the real one 20 -25 times the price of the fake ?
It's crazy how supply and demand works.
Mostly on supply and demand, but to be honest, research, quality control, production, etc. it really costs a way more than
@@arctic_ita as I heard creation of the masterpiece mechanism cost a fortune (around $1 million ) don't know if it's true
@@reefp5816 to develop a new mechanism for a "standard" automatic watch, costs around $3 million overall (design, project, prototyping, etc.), there's watches with more complication which would costs in the range of ten thousands or more. However after the repayment it's all income, for luxury watches they creates a "fake" scarcity to increase the bid (hence the prices). Clones however doesn't develop anything, they just copy.. the mechanism isn't reliable as the original ones (forget about it), neither the QA, however they aren't as bad as people would think. So the truth is in the middle.
@@Crmjewelers Or just plain crazy.
Real = $10000
Fake = $100
" Need to use *30 micro zooming to find minor differences"
Who is the real thief ?
I'm guessing the superclone didn't clone Rolex's 32xx low amplitude problem. Perhaps the supercone will keep better time than the real Rolex.
*Literally* the 1st test was which one keeps better time 😂 The fake was 2x worse than the real at keeping time. You're welcome.
@@ALL-il1sw Or reality has been exposed.
Since no one on the street is looking at your watch at 30/55x magnification….replica for the Win!!!🥇 🏆
As long as you can fool others, you're good, right? 🤣🤣🤣
If you don't care about a brand. Why bother buying a replica of such brand?
In short, the real is not worth it.
It depends on how desperate an emotionally insecure man is to be noticed by a part of his small world.
@@wholeNwon well said 😀
So to the naked eye.. without having one side by side they are almost identical
I mean, counterfeit goods get better and better over time, whether we're talking about luxury watches or something else. However, fake will always mean fake, despite the owner's attempt to deceive others. When it comes to watches, an actual Rolex will always be more durable and better...Oh, and real.
@@Crmjewelers just thinking some of these guys we see around all flashy wearing subs and Daytonas might be actually wearing a fake.. 🤣🤣🤣
I mean, the pretentious ones on a budget likely do, but that'll never change. 🤷
@@CrmjewelersAs you've commented elsewhere here; I'd rather have a real Hamilton or Tissot, Seiko etc and be proud of it, than willingly getting a superclone Rolex.
There are fake MoonSwatches all over marketplace. Except those are actually priced as real ones to scam people.
Conclusion, the fake is made better lol
pls tell me you are joking
Lol, they're clueless and in denial 😂
Where to buy?
There is no Dang Dong 3230, the old VSF 114060 with the Dang Dong 3130 clone is probably the best Rolex clone ever, the current VSF 124060 (which is what this is) is superb but has a ghost date.
The Clean 124060 uses a dressed up 3130 movement.
Now there's a VSF 124060 with 3230, so no more ghost date
@@jpsc2312 That's the one I have coming, the no-date VSF Sub. $575 delivered from Malachai at QC.
Hi, your video is perfect. Where did you bye the replica one?
Perhaps if you could spell "buy" correctly, you'd be successful enough to afford the real deal.
@@g.w.7893😂😂😂
@@g.w.7893 He spelled BYE correctly but in that context not so much...
Wow, such a deceptive Rolex! Sad but intriguing tale 😔
Counterfeiter: "Thanks for the feedback, we will pass on your complaints to our planning and production department!"
It would be funny if he had destroyed the original by mistake =D
It’s a shame people use these to scam people but I don’t judge if you are going to save money for something nearly identical
0:10 spotted it that fast. ROLEX is not lining up with the second markers on the inner bezel.
That clone certainly represents great value.
Also great video, You should do more.
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Meh, if I ever sell my Rolex I’ll make profit and it will go above retail. These fakes are an instant loss. Lol.
@@snapascrew Depends how moral you are, plenty of people on the secondary market get duped
@@snapascrew People resell Super clones for a profit all the time, many times faster than authentics. Knock it off, lol.
The best video on the subject !
Reallly well done, thanks
Rolex is worn by people who mainly need glasses to read. So, the fake will pass the class.
I'd go with the replica! ❤
Me too
Indeed. 95% as good as the genuine at only 5% of the price. win-win.
95%? BAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣
Crazy how one watch is $550 and the other one is around $10,000.
Clone is closer to $1000
and real one is closer to $2000, its retail price is $10,000 and that factors in advertising costs, etc.
$10,000? When was the last time you checked pricing on Rolex Subs? Used ones go for upwards of $30k. Believe it or not, brand new, if you don't die on a waiting list, will set you back about $20k-25k
@@peteygnycas of 9-4-24 they're still around $9500 for black on black. The hulk gets around double that. But imo neither are worth that much, I'm not paying for their F1 team when I buy a watch
If you wear the fake and tell people it's a fake, they'll probably think it's real, and if you tell them it's real, they'll probably think it's fake.
Just steer clear of anyone strolling down the street carrying a $7000 stereo microscope, and it'll be your secret to keep. Oh, and adjust the time by 11 seconds instead of 6.
just watched this video and now I'm questioning every watch I've ever owned
There's no better way not to get scammed than by educating yourself by friend 🤷
This is why replicas are so good 😅 & by the way ! Nothing is perfect.
Where can I get this exact Replica?
Patpong night market in Thailand
Thanks for this video. Ive never been able to tell real from fake on wrist in public
And you still won't be able to tell the difference. This video and others on RUclips clearly show that, unless you have a microscope and someone is willing to let you inspect their timepiece, and you know what you look for, and you have a genuine watch with you for comparaison, you will never be able to tell for sure which one is the real one. Sad but just the truth...
Maybe it's time to buy microscope with big magnification and carry it around to spot fake Rolex? 🤭
Or time to buy authentic watches each person can afford 🤭
Grey market is getting scary. Gotta gotta gotta get it under a scope. If the seller pushes back in any way to having a piece checked, I'm out. Personally, an extra $1-2K to buy from a trusted dealer who invested in the equipment to check EVERYTHING coming through is worth peace of mind. CRM is definitely on the short list of sellers I 💯 trust.
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Fakes are not grey market.
They could be very well there too. For every original Rolex there is 20 clones@@Outdoorshuntingshooting
Rolex is well aware about re-sellers, grey market, demand for certain models. Being fully aware and keeping up the fake hype in the market is unethical practise. I am sure many of the fake watch buyers were actually genuine watch buyers, but sick and tired of the fake hype and waiting list.
I've been fortunate to own a few Rolexes in my collection, bought from trusted dealers. However I'm at the point where I want to add a Pepsi GMT to it, however I'm tired of playing stupid games with ADs and don't want to pay £5k over retail for one either lol.
I've literally just bought a super clone, the blue turns complete red just like the gen under UV light. Next to a gen pepsi, it's honestly like for like.
Movement is a complete clone, yes given under a loop magnification finish isn’t as rolex standard. That being said its accurate as hell and lasts up to 70hrs.
Found a watchmaker who serviced and pressure tested. With super clones on the rise more and more watchmakers service super clones ( so ignore anyone who says no watchmaker would touch it)
Is it to show off i have a Pepsi? No anyone asks I'll say its a clone. I just really love the look of it. I could buy one in the grey market today but its the principle of not getting ripped off.
I mean for £500 thats a win...
Thanks! This video made me decide not waste my money and buy a fake one! :)
Or simply buy an authentic watch within your budget 🤷
Igrotumm’s quality is unbeatable in the replica market.
Fake rip off site kids, don’t buy from them
Rolex lost a lot of money because of them.
Hackers are crazy!
You have no idea how big this is-it’s changing the replica game for good.
These guys are legends. It’s like they’re rewriting the rules.
@4:50 the letter “I” on the word DESIGN on the fake is so much longer compared the rest of the letters !!!!😂😂😂
Hi, I have been watching your videos. I am interested to buy a very super clone Rolex GMT master 2 or a submariner super clone. Could you please share the address where I can purchase one. Thank you in advance.
Hilarious if you had given the anvil treatment to the wrong watch!
The sad thing is the replicas are getting so good that unless your an expert and understand microscopic techniques you can not tell the difference. The Rolex will cost you tens of thousands the super clone is about £1000 and there’s not much difference between the two watches.
It is so disgusting to watch someone break a watch with a hammer; regardless of whether it is original or not, this product has already been made and deserves at least to be given as a gift.
I don't think you really like watches, but rather money, it's pathetic.
You're mistaken. We love watches too much. That's why we hate fakes. What we also hate is pretentiousness and a fake watch is the epitome of that.
@@Crmjewelers Lol. You think there is no pretension from somebody who's wealthy enough to be a full-price mug? 85% of the price of a real Rolex is in the name. What's the name? Clever marketing. The clone isn't the pretension, it's the finger to the BS.
Hold on a second…so the clone has a cleaner dial with no over spay and at 30x magnification looks better than real? Huh….thinks I will get a clone and save $9400 and a two year wait list or $13,400 on the grey market…
The edges on the real crown have microscopic dots due to their painting process. "The edges of the crown on the super clone are sharper and more defined."
The complex and less precise overspray painting process costs approximately $10k in the manufacturing process.
Instead of breaking and melting the watch, I'd remove the logos and enjoy a well-made watch that's actually a proof that luxury watches are a scam.
You can say that all collectibles or luxury goods are a scam until you realize that you can't because human psychology and taste cannot really be justified.
rolex owners envy the fact that someone can have a pretty great looking watch just spending 50 times less money
Can you put the address of the clone seller on?I was saving for a Rolex but after this I think I’ll buy the clone.
If you need to put it under a microscope to tell the difference then the question is why is it 10k more expensive 🤷♂️
Hahah, time has come that the clones have better manufacturing and attention to details than the actual Rolex :D We've come full circle.
i know somebody high up in a major chinese watch factory when asked if he thought there where many or much difference between fake and real he replied yes the differences are there for a reason so we can release the next version if we made the perfect watch people need not buy again and he laughed its bad business too be perfect he finished by saying if rolex can make one we can THE END
My genuine 114060 runs 4+ seconds a day. My Clean Factory BLNR has a rate of +1 seconds a day, 0.0 beat error, and 284 amplitude 🤣 By that margin, my rep is more efficient than both mine and your gen lol. Luckily, my gen is still within its 5 years warranty by 1 month, so hopefully I can get it back to +/-2s per day
So, with only so few minor differences, it begs the question...where is all the money value in the genuine watch when a 99% replica can be created for such a small portion of the Rolex cost. ....oh yea, that's right. A huge profit justified by the marketing.
All the dudes that paid over 12k for their sub are punching the air 😂. The reps keep getting better. At the end of the day if you wear a real one or a fake no one gives a shit
I'll take the fake. Looking good!
This is a VS Factory 124060 (Q66 serial), price is 2500 yuan, roughly 350$
You all got it wrong. A real rolex submariner doesn't cost Rolex $10,000 to make it. It costs them around $2000. These superclones cost about $1000. Now you see why they're so close in quality. You don't buy a rolex because purely of its looks. It makes you feel like a boss and makes you work harder. Its also a nice feeling knowing it goes up in value as you wear it. A fake doesn't offer you this. You will feel like crap wearing it. When I wore fakes, I always had to hide my wrist cause I was scared someone would ask if it was real, or say "nice rolex"
They actually cost around $500 dollars. If you're buying direct from China, then I'd imagine it's even cheaper
I'm sure you're right but don't you think a man like that would have significant emotional issues or weak ego and lack of self esteem?
I love it when someone says "Nice Batman"!
So get a replica and polish it up… got it!
Right. And stay away from people who have 30x magnifiers.
WTF? If you need Dexter's Laboratory to tell fakes from facts there's no reason to buy an original.
its crazy that you think that the fake looks cleaner during magnification lol
How come the dial details on the fake are more crisp than the teal
You get what you pay for
If my replica is stolen or damaged you just by a new replica
The real one cost you a arm and a leg just for a cleaning job
so you mean to say, all these years Rolex has been screwing you out of 9600 hard-earned dollars one watch at a time? whoa.
Most of their budget goes to Advertising.
It's scary how good these fakes have gotten. I wonder how long it will be until they hit their ceiling and it's no longer possible to refine them further without being cost prohibitive?
I think they're close to that level already.
@@Crmjewelers I agree. I mean how much better can they get, without being done by Rolex themselves. The reality is no one is going to know unless you do a thorough look through like this. I hope ppl dont get duped but many ppl can’t afford a submariner or rolex for that matter and if it can help their career by striking a conversation with someone who can help them then I say go for it. It really is only helping g the biggest watch brand if more “Rolexes” are on wrists. I don’t condone it but it’s never going to stop and they will only get better and better . So buy from an authorized dealer or well know grey dealer like CRM if you are an enthusiast or have the money and let the ppl who can’t afford these amazing timepieces enjoy what we love :) peace in the world !!
what do you think is the actual production cost of a Rolex???
@@hallovelo2478 depends on model but I would say the cost of production on a new sub date it less than 2000 euro maybe less with the economies of scale
@@Timepieceguy i would say it is about 500-1000 max for a 10k watch. But i lean more towards 500.
I like the watches my country produce but the price don't reflect the value of the watch. it is marketing, status...whatever.
Why should be the same watch wirh a gold case be 20k more than the steel case???
i mean it is a joke to think machining gold is 20k more difficult...
I think some of these side-by-side comparisons had the wrong label on them 🤣
$150 and I'm in your pompous gentlemen's club )))
It’s crazy how these watches are looking more and more like the real thing, I did a video on a Super Clone that Patek AD tried to buy from me, it’s in my channel
Saw your vid ! Keep safe 🍻
Just require him to sign a disclosure that you are making no representations concerning the watch or its authenticity and that he is relying on his own expertise in evaluating the item and you should be safe from allegations of fraud. But actually selling a fake may be illegal where you considered making the deal.
fakes are getting better, support them and make them even better. Say no to overpriced dealers and compare between vsf and gen instead of 2nd tier fakes.
Or just buy another authentic watch within your means and end all pretentiousness? 🤷
@TDswallowJAKESyh
@@Crmjewelersexactly
@@Crmjewelersbrokies tryna act rich, consumed by ego. Then complain about watch prices.