LEGO City road plates vs the new road system with 60304 & 60306
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- We used the good old LEGO road plates for decades to build our City layouts, but now they are retired and we have a completely new modular system to use. I have the sets 60304 & 60306 to show you the new system and compare it with the old one.
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I would want to see a new lego series called Lego Country. Its like lego city, but instead of selling normal stuff u would see around a city, it would sell pieces of highways, gas stations, highway roundabouts and bridges, different cool vehicles, stuff like this. Basically it would be like the stuff that connects 2 cities.
Awesome idea
lego village
that could just be a sub theme of city, we have had volcano prevention, forest police, swamp police, artic etc. maybe make it like Outback while your at it
Genius
We need a road accessories set around the $10 range. Making it easy to aquire street lamps, bike lanes, guard rails, curbs, whatever. Maybe even do 2 separate road accessoriy sets so you can buy the one that appeals more to your needs
And make the actual road sets just roads, no signs or trees or stupid speed bumps. And extra tiles!
There’s the xtra poly bags
I want to see a City set called Highway. A two by two or two by three- lane road with guard rails, street lamps and these big digital boards that some highways have
That’d be cool to see
that could mean great posibilities for stop-motion
@@w2uup422 you could do like a highway race stopmotion
If lego made a highway set it should be call life is a highway
And a variation with Cops chasing Crooks on the highway.
Playing on a rug or carpet with the new roads is a real pain in the butt. Things just fall apart. The old ones didn't really have this issue.
Greater compatibility is a plus, but my main gripe with the new system is that it just looks so bad. The road surface is now shiny and you're always staring at that weird grid of 2x4 tiles. It's ugly.
The old weren't much better. They were too simple, almost looking like children playmats. They never looked complex enough or looked like Lego.
yeah it's bloody awful. I think they'll be forced to go back on this or some major compromise
@@gulorful8488 yeah it's disappointing that both systems aren't good enough
@@gulorful8488 "-almost looking like childrens playmats" Yeah i think that was intentional.
I mean it is Lego. You have gaps in the rest of your builds. Sidewalks on modulars have gaps. I don't know how much it is worth getting hung over about that. The old system didn't exactly have aesthetic consistency either. There were gaps between every baseplate. Some baseplates get warped depending on what was placed on them and they often changed colors and not uniformly either. But you did say it was a gripe which means "minor".
I agree, I would add that the new system looks less clean because of all the tiles used. The older one was visibly less messy and so more recognizable as a road
*looks at the roads in my town* the new system is way more realistic.
@@Goddot haha good point! 😂
This
@@Goddot basically with anything from the last few years onwards yes.
Also the 3in1 sets neatly line up with the new road pieces.
The only downside I notice is buildings getting even smaller.
Another thing they haven't grasped is how to deal with terrain change in a smooth way.
I got the wildlife sets and everything is very blocky. They use pieces that are edged or rounded to try and work around it but it just doesn't look natural. With vehicles and animals improving in design the terrain falls behind and it's visible.
I love the modularity of the new system, but it gets very expensive quickly if you want a sizeable road system.
The old road sets could even be used as a runway for some planes. Sadly, Lego discontinued these sets.
The set I really wish they would bring back was the monorail. From what I understand there were some issues with it, but it's been many, many years since they discontinued it, you'd think they'd take another stab at it now. But those pictures just looked cool of a futuristic space monorail coming into a moonbase.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade 100%. That is what they must do! Make a comeback of the monorails and 90s lego etc
I like some new features of the new roads, but not the general look. Too many gaps, they don't connect properly with the modular buildings, and the price is also high.
you pay twice as much for half the usable play area, by the way these are only street elements with a little bit of small stuff
the old system has 2 X 32 plates with studs for direct building for 10 €
the new system results in a footprint of 1X32 without studs for € 20
With this pack you can cover 2 baseplates and 8 studs, you save space, you can use "half roads" from 16x16 studs, you can customize more, it feels more like Lego cause you have to build it yourself. All ups. There's only a few downs
@@Senne_Vgyeah but it’s so goddamn UGLY and the old ones were more clean, simple and better in lane space, they also make the city look less cramped because of size and not having those horrifying gaps in between the plates. i get that the new ones have “more” modularity and fit with the normal sets, but i’m sorry these are so ugly i’d rather convert all my city sets to baseplate so that i won’t have to use those roads.
I have zero intention of buying any of the new system, looks like it's the 2nd hand market for me
You can get classic street plates from other manufacturers as well. And they're cheap.
@@originalulix where do you find those?
@@bloozism Amazon has some or Alibaba but they are not official LEGO. Good if you need large quantities and don’t mind the fake aspect but they look identical.
there are even manufacturers selling classic street plates but as normal plates which can be placed on studs
@@originalulix They're cheap for a reason. You have to be careful as they don't all meet the necessary tolerances of a genuine Lego part. People complain about the price of Legos, but the reality is that the price has increased slower than the rate of inflation for decades, meaning that a set now doesn't cost that much more than it did in the '80s. Also, there are tons of places that sell used bricks. One of the local consignment shops was selling them by the pound and thanks to the quality of the product, they're mostly just as good as they were when new.
I don't use either system. I just build my own roads from regular plates with tiles on. You can have whatever road markings or lane widths you like. It's expensive and potentially could take more time to set up - however I've devised an 8x8 stud grid system which makes it really fast if you have your 8x8 road sections pre-built. They can be turned through 90 degrees without any problem because they are square. I have one desk devoted to LEGO displays... so I only need as much floor to cover this desk. The initial cost is a sting.. but once you have it - you have it forever.
Can you make a video of your streets bro? Cheers from Germany
the trouble I find is they don't feel like roads anymore in the sense of when you're looking at them. The old roads being a single item only made them instantly identifyable as a seperate entity. This new idea simply doesn't do it for me at all. Terrible and I certainly wont be getting any
I find putting the road ends on the side of the road very helpful and it looks like the real roads where the water drains off. This also makes it wayyy wider
My Biggest Problem with the new plates is the bad integration with Modulars
The idea of a new road system is very good but the implementation not so much. The new road system is good for building bridges but they are too small and way too expensive.
The new design favors city, with smaller buildings mostly built for play. The base plates are better for the creator modular system.
My problem with the old system is that they came as a T-junction and a curve in one set or a 4-way intersections and a straight in one set. Straights and curves are going to be needed the most which meant I'll have a lot of extra T-junctions and 4-way intersections doing nothing. The new system isn't perfect, but I think in the long run it'll be more cost effective since they're customizable for any road layout.
if you only need a pure straight road the new system isn't even more expensive: the 20€ pack gets you 64 studs of road +8 studs of pedestrian crossing, the idiotic straight+ useless crossing meant that you had to spend 20€ for 64 studs worth of straight road.
I have two T-crosses, two arcs and four straights form the '90 so there had to be different packaging.
@@antonisauren8998 back in those days they included those road plates in the sets as well
Edit: I have one of those lego catalogs from 1978 (my parents kept those as well) and back then they sold road plates in sets of 2. You had one with 2 straights, one with 2 t-crossings and one with 2 corners. Maybe they had that in the 90's as well
@@yaralaterveer Looked into catalogue from '96. Just as you say. Four sets of two same road pieces in light grey. But those two I have must be from rail sets and the rest is from later years printed on green plastic. What's interesting, older have 9 studs wide lines while later only 8 studs wide. Oposite to what's told in the video as they'd got wider with time.
@@antonisauren8998 there was, they changed it to idiotic for the last version in the 2010s, leading to the massing of t-crosses and 4-way intersection.
Old is very cool, new is... Ah...very expensive for a Lego, no ?
In 2015 i bought a load of the road pieces on clearence for cheap so now i have a load of road baseplates
I have 6 of them: 2 of the first type of road plates and then 4 of the newer ones. Over here in the Netherlands there are still stores that sell road plates so I managed to make my 2 road plate long road look less depressing😂.
The 2000s 2010 road set is much better. The 2020 one is okay for smaller bulids but not much room for bigger cars.
Dude you need like two new plates put next together to have a decently wide road
My biggest gripe with the new road system is the lack of a curve. Seriously hope they fix that sooner rather than later.
I'm curious how the new system will eventually integrate with trains, there's potential for a proper flush intersection. I also don't understand the bike lane at all, unless other countries are vastly different, are bike lanes not typically much wider? I think the lane width was a bad choice, but there's also potential to expand via tiles, so I guess it's technically more versatile. The 'speed bumps' are a joke and don't even properly integrate with the road, using a part similar to BL# 93273, a shallow double curved slope, would be much better on top of a couple of plates, this would allow the speed bump to spread across the road and not just between the tires of standard vehicle widths; though I would like to see variants of this piece in 4x2 and 4x4. I'd be interested in seeing a single lane variant of these pieces, as odd lane counts do exist, and a colored variant would be nice for boulevards; along with this, especially with the boulevard concept, single lane intersection squares would also be nice.
The new system definitely has potential, but only if Lego expands on that potential, and only if the prices drop a fair bit.
And TRAM LINES FOR GODS SAKE
I want to finally be able to include rails for trams and make sharp turns too without having to use cardboard or metal wire lol
Yeah because forget using regular train rail, because they cant turn sharp enough to fit in a city...
@@darkphoenix_7759 Tram tracks aren't going to happen within this system, there's just no way to nicely interface a rail scale that small with the current pieces, and keep the road flush with the tracks. I doubt custom tram track pieces are going to be made, as that'd just end up being a mess of parts, especially when you account for every variation of straights, turnings, forks, and intersections. Also keep in mind every track that already exists, the roller coaster track is probably the smallest we'll ever see at 4 studs wide, and even then the curved pieces are 14x14, as compared to the new road pieces being 16x16, and Lego designed the curves to be that size for a reason; asking for 8x8 curves, that would fit within the new road system, is asking for a rail system that potentially doesn't function based on a tram's wheelbase. Trams just won't exist nicely within Lego until the size of everything around them is appropriately scaled, and I doubt that will ever happen.
@@xaytana Fine
I'll do it myself
lol
Atleast here in the uk that bike lane is realistic
Opens new options, for the right price.
Yeah lego could print that on shirts
In my opinion, the new roadplates are just the best thing to ever happen to lego. Besides the lack of curved plates, the versatility of new plates are on another level
but they’re uglier and have less space and look more cramped for some reason. i put them throughout my entire city and they aren’t exactly the best looking, i’m on the edge of converting to the baseplate roads because those look sleeker and even though they take more space at least it won’t look bad
The cars can go perfectly over the speed bumbs XD
It's an overkill, the old road plat is perfect as it is !!
Sort of, I don't think it's the right solution to the problem. The right solution would have been to make the plate taller, so it matches with the short flat bits. Split it into two pieces, with the centerline markers being replaced with studs. Then create additional pieces that are basically just individual lanes.
Yes, it sounds a bit complicated when I write it out, but it's pretty simple and would create something that's cleaner, but more flexible than the current set. I think one of the reasons they're doing this is that there had been a trend for years of adding new parts where we used imagination previously.
great review I was wondering about these new road pieces!
I prefer original plates because its easier to plan a city layout and they have proper turn pieces which this new system lacks. I hope there will be third party road plates that either recreate old and obscure road plates from the 80s and 90s or add new types like 64x64 big corners.
I really like the professional aspect of your video even if the subject seems "childish"
Always nice to see LEGO build
That bike lane clearly isn't wide enough.
It's unfortunate that the lane sizes are smaller and that the roads are priced pretty high, but I have hopes for the modularity and ability to widen the lanes on your own and I'm guessing (hoping) that the roads are expensive and don't have curves/accessory packs only at the moment because they're new.
I just started my city/harbor town this passed December and using the New Road system. Its awesome and for the Modularbuilding theyre now on regular plates which they should be to be compatible with the new system. Im still learning house to use them in other ways, including adding railroads crossings which you can't really do with the old road plates. Hope we can get more accessories for it. Hello from Saga, Japan.🗾✌️
I agree the new system has a lot of potential while the disadvantages are clear, the biggest of which are the accessibility of collecting additional modules outside of sets, and the additional money you have to spend as a result. That said I have already migrated to the new system because I love the ability to customize these roads, and I have hardly any baseplates anyway so everything will go together much more easily for me. Actually, for someone who doesn't have many baseplates, it's more cost-effective to buy these new roads and any extra accessories separately as baseplates aren't cheap from retail, and tend to have shipping overhead on BrickLink, whereas BrickLinking the accessory parts is much cheaper.
Great video!! Never had the old road plates but honestly even with the new roads my favourite look is a brick built road in black, either with smooth titles or by building side ways. Lego needs some black roads.
Wange has great baseplates also with street prints and parking lots, Baseballfields, Basketball, Soccer. Now i buy my Baseplates from Wange for a good price. I dont want to spend hundreds of euros to raise my modular buildings to make them fit into the new street system.
Customer of Bluebrixx?
To me the prettiest roads Lego did were the ones with the green sides, it just looked lovely. The last version in dark grey and idiotic bundling was pretty ugly, and seriously overrated. The very first baseplates were made with the intention of building stuff on the sides, the latter versions with broader roads meant the studed surface was too narrow for most builds, or require extra tiles for making a nice sidewalk.
The new system really isn't perfect, but I am having fun using it, as I could have tramway rails flush with the road and have some raises and drops in the road. the imperfections look a lot like the streets in my town, too...
The dumb part though: I'm building it all on baseplates for stability... XD
TLG itself has a very weird strategy, many city models are not compatible with the roads because of angles (that garbage police central!), the modulars keep using baseplates, the prices of sets having the street plates are ghastly, and we are in the dumb situation where alternate producers make way more city models that are compatible with the new street plates (Qman and Sembo both make lovely models on standart plates like this). Lego keeps making huge trucks and cars that don't fit the roads, but in their defense, so do car manufacturers.
Thx for that
I grew up loving Lego, but I find their modern stuff exhausting. It is all like building high-cost, high-tech models now and is losing the fun and creative side it used to have. Maybe I am just old, but I am not a fan of this direction. I find myself just buying bulk bricks by the pound now just to get some non specialty bricks to build with. Related to this topic, I have my road plates from 1988 and they still work perfect and after a good wash last spring looked brand new again.
Most of the lego bricks I have are from the 70's-80's. I have like this big box full of those bigger lego bricks from my parents old Lego sets and then another box with the Lego bricks from the sets that I bought myself. I do have to clean the old Lego bricks all at once tho because some of the white bricks can't really be called white anymore 😂
I mostly use 3-4 block wide cars so I guess these new road plates might work but my family doesn’t have a huge house or the money to afford such builds.
I'm glad they now fit together better, but I'd like it if they were a bit bigger. These seem a tad too small.
So, while it doesn't quite look as nice on its own, the new system has one MASSIVE benefit - you're not fixed to two 6-stud wide lanes and 32x32 plates anymore. The 16x8 and 16x16 plates allow for much more flexible road design. You can make 4-lane or even 6-lane highways or roads with wider lanes now if you double up your road width. To do that with the old system you'd have to cut plates. It also makes adding a physical median to your roads easier as you don't need specific plates for that anymore. Finally, the raised design gives better compatibility with train tracks.
A lot of dedicated city-builders would use their own custom road system anyway, often using bricks on their sides. This system also adds additional compatibility to that due to its height.
Do you have some tips and tricks to make cool roads for the 8 stud speedchamps?
it was about time to do this change
You can use the smaller road pieces to widen the lanes a little maybe?
I like the new sets alot. I use 4 plates wide for my creator cars and can use 6 plates wide for technic, but not bother to that since most technic is placed on high mounted shelves. But wished there were more flat grey pieces without white stripe. Hoping they also will make plates with curved turned roads. With these it will mostly be 90 degrees turns
Not actually a fan of the look of the new roads. I feel its an overly complicated system for a half as nice finish as the old.
I like the green sidewalk baseplates from 1997 the most. :)
Gotta go MILS with these new roads
The only good thing about this is that you can modify it so that a train track can fit it in and have a car drive on it with less bumps
both road systems aren't perfect but able to build your road for lego city is a advantage for space or modify it etc. plus the new road system is actual looking lego for a lego city. i bought one to experiment with at some point.
We have a few of those road oldest plates from an old mixed LEGO box Mum bought us as kids; I don't think we ever used them though.
I'm surprised LEGO are pushing new roads given the pushback on their bendy train tracks (which are ok for small sections but that's about it)
I have 2 of those oldest road plates from my parents old lego sets (though I'm sure that I have 3 but my parents keep saying that they looked everywhere in the attic and couldn't find it so I think I'll have to look for it myself one day 😅)
While you can't have curves with the new system, you CAN make sharp turns by placing white lines at a 90° angle.
Also, you can technically double the lane width by putting two road plates next to each other and only putting white lines where they touch.
The best thing about the new road system is that you can extend the size of the road lanes by simply extending the edges out.
I've already worked out a way to extend the lanes to fit 8 stud-wide vehicles on them, something you couldn't do with the old system.
they already fit 8 wide, but it’s narrow. i also managed to (somehow) modify the old ones to have lanes for 8 wide cars
i think it has the same problem as control+. it is released when it was not finished. because a lot of the old features are missing (and are still missing) and the new features dont make up for it.
They had to take more time with those changes.
It would be much better if they combined the old roads and the new roads so you can choose, when you want to built fast or with more detail if you have enough time.
Just like powerfunctions could have had a new bluetooth reciver
With the new road plates I can’t even fit an AAT on the road without having to moving some stuff from the side cause it’s that narrow unlike the old road plates where I could
Looks like a typical LEGO move to downgrade something but increase the price
Fortunately, if history repeats itself, it's most likely that Lego will go back to the original design if too many people are not satisfied or the set doesn't do well. But the price may still go up.
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How was this an overall downgrade? These pieces are super modular and customizable.
Before if you had say, a T-junction plate that's literally all it could ever be, now one plate can be anything
@@MrRedstoneready "These pieces are super modular and customizable."
You mean - like the old ones?
These sets ar nothing but a big upgrade. More pieces and it's feel more like playing with lego than with just thin plates. You can make 4 plates wide for creator cars and 6 plates wide for technic. Could you do that with the old plates?! With this set you can -choose- to make 1 strait road, one with a turn, or crossroad from 1 set. This set gives you more accessories, like street lamps, trees, flowers, signs and traffic lights and there are pieces that glows in the dark. And you can choose to use crosswalk or not. Here in norway it was like 8 dollars for just 2 plates of the old ones, paid around 20dollar for these new set.
The old base plate feels very suburban, wide road and wide sidewalk, while the new road system feels very much a city center kind of road in an older city.
I hope they'll make ramp pieces for bridges and garage and it would make sense for them to make corner pieces too if they are making brides.
Weirdly, I can see the new road systems used more in non-road related moc. Parts of sci-fi buildings, ship hull platings, or inside of space ships.
I like the ones from 2005 more.
How did it go with lego addressing the faults in the new road plates?
I like that it’s more compatible with standard bricks but I’d prefer the base plates just being a little taller
This road is like the city version of the new stormtrooper helmet
Changing something to make it big and over complicated when it was fine in the first place
how do they look with 8wide cars if use 2 plates per lane?
I get the complaints that they're too shiny and all the lines looks odd, but these would look perfect for the floor of a space station, the smooth sheen, the panel lines, you could easily use all the crossing pieces as paths into themselves
i actually really like it
as someone who exclusively builds with baseplates for modularity, I really don't like that the old road plates aren't sold.
the base plates had a lot more you could do with them. you attach building and then put trees, flowers, etc in the area between.
I don't think the lack of curves is a disadvantage comparatively because the old system doesn't either. It has 90 degree turns which are not really any different from a corner. Just takes up more space.
I still have like 30 road plates lol I don't know what do do but they are cool
Would it be possible to build a bridge with the new system. Without using any new custom pieces. Since the pieces are studded and antistudded.
i love the newer system, however are they now more expensive?
What set is the blue car at 1:24
I have been playing with legos since 2006 and let me just say that the original 3 road plates sucked and wouldn't connect to anything it's not very strong and when you revealed the new road system my Jaw dropped and I got so excited because they FINALLY DID IT!
Why is lego downgrading everything??
But they upgraded the price!
@@KastaRules That's also a downgrade
@@sotiriospapastergiopoulos8582 you didn't get a joke.
@@verkakrizova9932 I got it bro
I have 16 of the old road base plates.
I like the compatibility of the new system more, but they need to be bigger and the sets could be better
It doesn't help that the US Shop at Home limits purchases to 2 sets.
If it's not broken, don't fix it. The old baseplates worked. And the complexity that the new plates bring creates an unnecessary chore to play especially for kids as it requires too many pieces. I hope Lego reveals more of its potential and soon.
if your roads are not wide enought in your eyes with the modular roads set two sets of roads next to each other then.
They are not wide enough in general. Try letting two trucks (especially the one that comes with the new town center AND those roads) pass each other. And buying two sets will be twice as expensive. Since the new plates are already half the size of the old sets with two baseplates but twice the price it will be four times as expensive - plus the extra bricks and plates you need to raise your city to fit the new height... not an advantage at all.
as a person with a small collection of modular buildings, what do people think is the best way of adding a roadway to them. From what Racinbrick said here, i take it these new road peices sit lower than the base plates the modulars are built on making it difficult to integrate it into such a scene. I take it there are road baseplates that would allow me to achieve what i want to do but this seems rather difficult as well as would need a number of new baseplates alongside transplanting the footpaths and floors onto the new baseplate tiles
The best way to integrate modulars to the road pieces would be to replace the baseplate with flat pieces. Baseplates are not a part of System, the new road pieces are. So if you want to integrate them you gotta either remove the parts that are not part of System or use more non-system components like flat foam pieces of the right thickness to elevate the baseplates up. I don't know if Lego has stated why but I suspect these roads were made in an attempt to distance themselves from the baseplate for the reason stated earlier. Baseplates are not a part of system, you build on top of them not with them. They want bricks you build with.
I've got a TON of the very old tiles
u can put the roads on the baseplates
I like the idea of these roads in principle, but I don't like that they're outright replacing the old baseplates. The baseplates have been established for literally decades now, and as a matter of fact, are almost completely compatible with regular bricks and plates. Yes, plates and baseplates are different heights, but A: a baseplate placed on top of bare studs is the same height as a plate. B: Lego has been using baseplates as the foundation of building for what, over 40 years at least, now. Why would that ever change? With a little work you can easily transfer a Lego City set from a normal plate onto a baseplate.
There are two main problems with the new roads. One is that they're taller than everything. They stick up too much, and short of building your entire setup with a few plates or almost a MILS plate system under it, it just looks weird to have the roads above the sidewalks and grass. The other is that the roads are, as you mentioned, far smaller than on the baseplate roads, and at the same time, the size of the Lego City cars and trucks is getting bigger. The long running grey roads had a good 8-9 studs of road for cars that were usually 4-7 studs wide. Now we get 7-8 studs of road for cars that are 6-8 studs wide at least. The Speed Champions are pushing 10 studs wide this year.
There are a couple of things you can do to use the new roads. The first one is, be rich, because you're going to need a lot of money to convert to this. Once you've done that, you can build up your city around the roads. Okay, now mitigate the small lanes by using an entire 16x16 plate as one lane. So you can build a 32x32 plate of roads that's a two lane street, and the road goes right to the edges. You have room for driving, and maybe even room for parking on the sides of the road. Using modular buildings, if you want some more sidewalk space, you can move the buildings all back by a couple studs. Yes, it'd take work. Lego takes time though, that's no surprise. If you don't want to, then you still have the default sidewalk on the modular buildings.
But the best thing about these new plates that I can think of, is that they can be very easily used to build a bridge, or a ramp. You can use them in buildings, you could use them as walls, in a parking garage... There are a lot of ways to use these plates in a Lego City, they just kinda really suck as roads.
You need two sets a 20 Euros (or dollars) to cover the area of a 15 Euro packet. It - the new system - has no curves, it doesn't fit with the modular buildings or other builds on base plates, and it it easier to put a plate on a baseplate than vice versa*. And the old system had also street sign etc. pp. even one with light features, these were just disbanded.
And what you do now with your old baseplates and modular buildings - in the trash bin?
*I put buildings like the Kwik-market or the Simpsons house on baseplates. I tiled the plates out (and the parking lot look far better with tiles), and put the building on the tiled area using some modified tiles to attach the buildings...I can even slide open the Kwik market without issues. I also put the haunted house on a baseplate (again with a combination of tiles and a few modified tiles with studs) and used the remaining space of the baseplate for a fence, trees and graves. And you can combine it with your modulars, have streets with curves, and every other building.
And your four lines system will fail with curved streets (the radius is fix) if they should ever come out.
How should you be creative with these things? By buying 32 x 32 or 48 x 48 Lego plates...oh, they don't exist. So you can't put the Simpsons building on a plates and use the space for a drive way, a garden etc. pp.
Last but not least: these street surfaces are very smooth and shiny...guess how they will look after some play. The old street had no smooth surface and wear didn't affect their value or appearance much...but these ones.
Tiles are quite cheap and available en mass and easy to replace, and must adult fans do not play with their stuff but display it. But this street part are very expensive, limited, not compatible with baseplates (and baseplates were first), and will show great signs of wear after a brief period of time.
Good news: there are plenty of Asian and European companies which offer both: baseplates of all kind: with streets markings, every color, sizes up to 64 studs and with all kinds of layout like football or baseball turfs, parkings lots etc. pp., and plates with a size of 32 x 32.
It only bites in the ass, if you are a Lego purist.
Shame they aren't really generous when it comes to bigger base plates and more creative base plate molds
telamon's big world Jpegs Vs. the old road free model in all of the old trailers
One of the huge problems with the old system-when you wanted to just buy straight roads, you had to get an intersection piece too. Same for the turns. So you were potentially collecting many more intersection pieces that you didnt want or need. Of course you could buy them on the secondary market, but then you have to pay for shipping, handling, etc. And you have to find the amount you want from a reputable/well priced seller.
These new roads taking up less room is actually great-means you can fit more into a smaller area, decreasing the overall size of your setup and saving space. With the old roads you might not use up that whole shoulder space and would feel obligated to fill it, here you can make your own shoulder.
Overall, I feel that these roads better fit the Lego theme.
I'm still fan of old baseplates. New system should be build only from small pieces, not this big gray one - looks bad.
I like the new road system
Are old one also 10×10
Seems to me a lot like the gray to bley change-change for the sake of change.
I like the new road plates because it's better for my limited space.
If it gets rid of the pot holes, can we build real roads out of Lego.
I didnt even know that there are new roads
so how do you remove the tiles in the middle of the new road system?
There are holes in the baseplate, you can push the tiles out from the other side
The width of these new roads isn't actually a problem since you can just turn the default 2-lane into a 1-lane and double up the road to make your own width. This method could technically fit a car of any width due to the modular intentions.
Why are these new parts required? You can create a way better street with tiles only. These new parts are limitating the possibility of use.
8x16
6x6
curved tiles
etc.
The new road plate system is great for driveways, parking spaces, and skateparks (I am, of course, referring to the sets where the road plates look the best and serve a function that the older baseplates couldn't). However, I agree that the older baseplates look and work better for traditional roads, curves, and intersections. HOWEVER, I have never bought a single baseplate in my life, because the height is incompatible with the rest of the LEGO system. I think LEGO should have introduced baseplates with regular thickness, instead of these new roadplates.