I was under rhe assumption they's probably add curves and maybe things like roundabouts later on when they know the system is successful. Otherwise it's not like modular buildings have round curves anyway
If I was starting from scratch, it would be expensive, but currently the BULK of my collection is an overabundance of plate. It will be nice to actually have something to do with it, instead of having to spend money on containers to store it all.
@@BricknIt Really? This is no joke? You need 12 hours to find the solution of buying another baseplate and build it two studs higher? You mean 12 seconds. You mean seconds? ^^ This was the first problem I'm thinking about and you say the problem is your solution? WTF! Here is my solution: Buy the old ones from alternative companies and if you need stackable street plates they're also existing: www.amazon.de/Strictly-Briks-Bauplatten-Kompatibel-F%C3%BChrenden/dp/B07C9YQZTF
I built my own table and painted it in the same dark grey as Lego roadplates. Then I bought white stickerpapers and cut out road markings. That way I can rearrange the road markings as I please.
So I need a weird workaround in order to make lego compatible with lego? No thanks, this company is trying to scam it's customers. These plates are completely outside the Lego system
The new roads aren't outside the LEGO system, the modulars are because they're sat on baseplates, which are half the thickness of a plate; that's incredibly annoying when the system is based on a full plate of thickness. This is why they're phasing out baseplates. These roads are also modular which the old ones weren't.
Actually, you can combine the modular pieces to make make bigger lanes, just use regular dark grey 2×4 plates in the middle and use the printed plates to connect the 16×16 road plates. Now you have traffic lanes that are 16 studs wide, which can easily fit the widest Speed Champion builds.
So we ignore the fact, that some of the old truck/Cars dont fit on the New street And that the effektive plate surface you get ist 4 times more Expensive in comparison to the old street?
4 times more expensive? It's $16 just to buy 2 road baseplates at my retail stores (makingthem $8 each), versus the $20 for the new Road Plate set, with half of the value being divided into 4 new road plates (making them $2.50 each).
@@taqresu5865 Take a look at the Held der Steine Video, eventho it's German the makes a direct size comparison. For the German market the old Streets were listed around 10€ new, the new streets cost about 20€. But with the new streets you can't even cover the Playing surface of 1 Street baseplate. And in the old Street set you get 2 base plates, so for pure playing area the new one ist 4 times more expensive since in the old setup even more playable area cots just 5€. Material whise + production cost it's more like 3€ for the old set and 4€ for the new since there are more parts. In the dimensions of Lego's production their parts are not that expensive at all. The rest ist just the price tag of the company name. Oh and did I mention that you could also directly build on the 4 times cheaper old build plates? The new ones are just street, there you need even more overpriced parts to get buildings going.
Problem solved: Just don't buy this crap. If Lego doesn't make enough money, they'll quickly fly out of the catalog and the old streets will come back. That's so easy ;-)
Lego is holding a contest: how far can they go with ripping off their customers until the last fan boy notices? Obviously they haven't gone far enough yet.
We really need to boycott this ! Buy every Road-Baseplate you get and then buy them from other Bricksystem Companies. Some actually improved so much on quality to even rival LEGO and they still have Road - Baseplates ! Every Company that produces Brick build Sets is just Laughing at Legos face for making this mistake
Sorry, but you shouldn't have to 'solve' the new road plate system... that suggests it's broken to begin with... which for me personally it is... I really don't like them! Hopefully we will still be able to pick up the proper road baseplates
Couldn't agree more. The fact that the new roads wouldnt play nice with my existing modulars was keeping me up at night lol. Thats why i tried to figure out a solution to help out :)
I don't think they're broken. What's broken is official Lego baseplates that are a weird size (thickness of the top of a plate). I think it's good they're trying to go away from that system and make it more customizable etc. However they should also just make 16x32 road plates without sidewalks. I also think though that these roads are way too narrow. 7.5 studs per lane if you don't include the lane divider which I feel was already a problem with the current road plates. Well I'm just glad they're trying new things and I hope they keep the old ones still around
@@RCmies It's all personal on what you prefer or not, but totally disagree that baseplates are a problem or a weird size - the clue is in their name 'base' plates - designed to be the base you build upon, which for the road system makes perfect sense, as the lowest part of any town is generally the road surface, then a step up to the pavement (sidewalk) etc... this new system actually puts the road a whole plate (not baseplate) above modular bases... which will make raising a city to match, a very expensive procedure! The only constraint is that you have to have a two lane road - but really, how many people out there have a Lego city that's big enough for a multi-lane highway?
So you need to buy a building, than buy enough plates to build it not on the groundplate but on some new plates and then you could connect it to a road wich is to small for most lego-cars. And got no room for a sidewalk or other things ... and is double the price of normal road-plates. Well ... could someone tell me the reason behind it ?
I currently don’t have any road plates, so the new system isn’t a problem for me, as no transition.I much prefer the smaller and narrower roads. The tips are extremely helpful. 😀
Thanks so much :) Yeah just trying to help people out who are on the fence about the new road system as its very expensive to buy road plates, new and old
Yeah I’m sticking with the old ones, first it would cost me hundreds of Euros to buy all those extra baseplates and plates to raise the modulars, second it would take so long to tear apart and reassemble the ground floor of every modular I have, and third I do prefer the wider sidewalk bc the ones on the modulars themselves are a bit thin for my taste. It’s definitely an easy system for kids to connect all their lego houses that are sitting around in the floor but for every Afol‘s Lego City these aren’t efficient and if it would be very costly and time consuming
The new road system is fine.... what bothers me more is the shiny tile surface. Objects just are normally not supposed to reflect in a road. If Lego would have at least come up with a road-like surface. The rougher surface on slopes would have been just ideal.
The problem is not that the new road plates are outside the system, they are actually designed according to the "system." What is outside the system are the flimsy baseplates that don't work with Lego geometry. They need to start doing full plate baseplates so that you can not only connect them to other Lego pieces without first adding more baseplates, but so you can vary the elevation of modulars and anything else on a baseplate, whether for variety or to run wiring, or just to get everything to line up like Lego is supposed to. I just buy aftermarket full plate baseplates since you don't see them anyways, they are a fraction of the cost, and they actually work with the system.
Only downside I see to this is that it requires a LOT of additional bricks/plates just to get your modulars to the same height as the new roads. That's going to get expensive fast, especially if you don't have a lot of spare plates already.
Why do you think LEGO introduced the new system? Because they want you to buy tons of plates from their PaB. However, you don't have to follow through with the new road system, unless you want to. You can still get base plates, either new/used from Brick Link or from 3rd party vendors (they even sell double packs of straight roads). I was considering whether or not to switch from 6312 to a MILS-style system, with the new roads I can most probably get there cheaper.
Don’t buy this crap, go to a alternate Brand and buy their Road-Baseplates. Most of them have exactly the same as Legos old ones, even cheaper and their quality is for the most part as good as LEGO’s. No problems fitting other bricks on them at all
I like the thought you put into this. As someone not terribly committed to to baseplates (outside of the annual modulars) I've been on the fence. Although outside of modular buildings looking back over the years.. I've also been ignorant to the fact baseplates are on life support thanks to modulars. Idk, this is a tough one, plus I'm feeling the pressure that road plates are officially "retired" and oos at most retailers. Please send help. My head hurts from trying to figure out what to do lol
You do not mention that the new road is a bit smaller or thinner than the old road plates, which makes it hard for two 8 stud wide vehicle, such as Speed Champions or trucks to pass each other. Also the price for the set is quite high. Here in Germany it's 20 Euro which is twice as much as for the base plates. So the road is more expensive than the old one and you need to lift your whole city to use this, as the other system with base plates (which are like this for nearly 40 years) will let you spend some money. So you can ask yourself: Are they dumb to not think of this or are they clever to make it this way?
Cool! It does cost a lot so I I'm not there yet. But defenately going to buy a set to check it out! The probleme I have with it is that it changes the grit.
Or slide some cardboard under the modulars and call it the day. Naturally the cardboard comes from old set boxes so you are technically still "in system". :)
Finally someone has a sensible idea, rather than laying base plates on other plates. I’ve been saying this for ages, everything on my layout is on plates rather than base plates to create a proper curb line. Liked and subscribed. Keep up the good work.
10:08 you don't actually have to take anything apart to separate the modular from the road, you can lift the building and keep the 2x2 plates attached to the sidewalk instead of the road.
Love your idea for a fix. I will just leave it with that. Don’t want to get negative. I’m looking forward to the new system but still not sure if i will switch. Thanks for sharing.can’t wait to see more of your LEGO city. 👍
hahaha. I never realised how heated the conversation about these road plates would be lol. Im of the same opinion as everyone else when i saw them but for me the added space it will give me is why i tried to see how easy it would be to fit them into the city. As you can tell im still 100% sold on them, but seeming as i will be buying some of the new city buildings next year anyways and they come with the plates im open to testing them and trying them out :) sadly that does make the sets even more expensive!
@@BricknIt i understand the space savings , but the cost is going to hi. First you have cost of the baseplate and then you have to buy the other plates to build it up. I think is a lot of AFOL go this way there will be a shortage of the additional place needed to raise the new road plates. Like the light blue gray tiles. If that’s the case you will have lots of plates you can’t finish because of lack of parts. I guess time will tell. 👍👍
I don’t actually have any roads in my city ‘roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads!’. Although, if I’m honest, it’s more because I couldn’t be bothered buying any and now don’t really have space and the shapes would just be way too complicated 😉 Looking forward to new city vids though, just wish I didn’t keep getting ideas for new sets from you 😂 Also v interested to see how you get on with lighting
I managed to snag a bunch of cheap road baseplates of the earlier generations (1978-2001), which are fairly compatible with each other if you smoothen out the transitions, so I'll go with them if i am to build my own Lego city. I live in a pretty cluttered apartment, though, and I'm starting to realize it might take some time before I could have available the time and space required...
And at the end of the video it finally makes sense. LEGO will make more money because of the update to the new road system. Love the idea of adding plates to incorporate lighting system.
Apple figured this out long ago. Create a new 'improved' thing, that works with nothing they currently make, but if you buy more stuff, you can make your old things work with the new.
It looks expensive if you have a lot of modulars. But if you have a lot of modulars you already have a lot of money. I still like the old roads. I have big hands and trying to add the details for a two-lane road that's 16 studs across is going to be hard. OTOH you can (in theory) make roads with any number of lanes like a 5 lane main street and 1 lane alleys between buildings and 2 lane residential streets.
Thats an awesome idea that i didnt even think of! Would be way cheaper too! ill definetely experiment with that when i get my hands on one of the plates
I think this system is stupid, I'm not even going to consider buying these trash versions of roads. The 2 sets of normal road plates are perfect for modular buildings and much easier. I would advise you to not waste your time or your money on this bad excuse for a city road set.
I avoid all of these problems by placing all of my modulars on top of another baseplate, and overlapping them over the road baseplates. That way they are on the exact same height as everything else, the roads take up less space, and I can still move the modulars around as much as I want. I also don't have to modify the modular buildings at all, they are still on their original baseplates.
one thing, plates are expensive and the new road system is also more expensive then the 2 base plates sold together. So I hope they will keep the older ones too
I've been debating if I like the new road system. This video makes me slightly more optimistic. I'll still need to buy some and experiment to decide if they're for me.
That is a great solution! It could also be possible to use the big grey baseplates as the base for an entire city and then just placing the modular with the baseplate on top of those grey baseplates (plus one plate of height for a curb) so you would not have to modify each modular 😱 it would be a bit more costly I think tho 🧐
Wouldn’t it be cheaper just to leave the new road plates alone and simply set an additional baseplate under the untouched modulars? The two baseplates should make the modulars about one plate higher than the road plate, and you can still move the modulars by simply picking them up, without having to disconnect anything.
I like what you’ve done here. I’m looking forward to experimenting with the new road system. Should make a dual carriageway easier to do. Think I’ll use both the original plates and the new system in different areas!
I like what you've done. it adds a nice curb. However my plan is to just put a layer of baseplates on my table. Place the road plate directly on the table baseplate, and rest the modular building as is on top of the baseplate (built on its own baseplate just set on top of the table baseplate. This makes its sidewalk even with the road. I can choose to clip it in then, or just have the roads and other buildings hold it in place.
Great video as always, I will not be adopting the new road plate system because for me it is to costly. Sorry I missed the livestream yesterday, I had no school and was working on preparing for thanksgiving but I am looking forward to the next livestream! Have a great day!
I like your thought process, but I would adjust it by making your modular base a full mini mils and just adding tiles to the road plate so that you can still pull everything out and move around as is often the case. Bravo for rolling with the change and not just throwing up "roadblocks" (sorry for the pun)
It's only a change if you accept it. Why not just buy old baseplates instead of wasting tons of money on ugly, reflecting roads which are too small for most cars and don't fit naturally into the baseplate system?! Makes zero sense.
I do not mind the idea of turning the city into a "Mini Mills Plate" as you say, I just wish lego would design, and release a smooth curve. (I have never liked any mills plate curves I have seen so far) I feel like lego is forcing everyone to build cities with just straight, Tee, and 4 way intersections. (I also heard a rumor that baseplate roads may stay for 18+, and the new road plates are for 5+ builds.)
To my mind a difference of two plates between the road surface and the footpath would be more realistic. This would the baseplate for the modulars would be three plates high with one layer of smooth plates (=4 plates high against the 2 plates height of the road sections). I suspect that we'll see 16x32 (or similar) by 3 plate high baseplates, likely with holes along the side for technic connecter pins as are now built into the walls for the modulars. This would make the modulars more modular with the connector pins in the plates rather than trying to match the pin locations in the designs of each modular. Parks, gardens, alleyways, and more will now be options for offical Lego modulars as the location of the connector pins wouldn't matter. I suspect we'll also see special connections/connectors to bridge between the new road plates and any new baseplates.
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I'll still using a 2005 road plates because on this plates its easier to build house next to the road
Great video - thanks for doing this as it really detailed and give a good idea of how to integrate the new road plates into a Lego city. The finished article does look great but do do this for a whole city will be very expensive - For now, I think I will stock up on the old style road plates before they retire.
Thanks so much mate. That was exactly the point of the vid :) To show people how much work it would be for the new system and whether they want to adopt it or not. A lot of people seem to think im now condemning the old system and i must be cancelled lol
You would think Lego would have already had a layout done with the new road system. Then been like "hey look how awesome our new road system is and what you can do with it!" But.. no. Atleast I haven't found that anywhere yet.
I would actually do that way easier where you don't need the extra baseplates at all. Just leave the road plate as it is and rebuild/move your modular building from the baseplate on to 2 16x16 plates, 1 8x16, 1 6x16 and then you have the space for the boardwalk connection, under them you can put the same "outline" that you have with the 2x4 plates. Done. You have the exact same effect like in your video but without any baseplates. You don't need one extra for the roads and you basically do it exactly like you did, but minus the baseplate on the modular building and road plate. Love your idea for the raised sidewalk by the way. These 2x2 plates with only studs on one side are the ultimate solution for that problem.
I think you're making it over complicated when you add the base plate under the road plate. Just ditch the base plate under the house and build it all with plates instead.
@@cosmicjenny4508 Not really, I own my fair share of modulars, and I can safely say those things are like fuckin' glue! They're built in a way that doesn't allow them to come off without taking everything apart. Plus, even if it was that easy, I would never spend that much time taking each individual 1x1, 1x2, 2x2, 2x3, and 2x4 tiles apart from the baseplate. What a waste that would be!
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That's an awesome solution! The one thing I would do differently is when taking it apart, rather than having to disturb the pavement pieces I would would just take the road off leaving the connector pieces attached to the building rather than the road. I've been trying to think of a way these new roads would work with the modulars and I was thinking of something along the same lines. Definitely going to be doing this!
First time watcher. I've always liked lego so came across your video. I really enjoyed it and found it so interesting so just wanted to send my thanks, a little thumbs up and a new subscriber. I'm looking to potentially start collecting lego again but where do you buy your lego from? Not the sets but individual pieces for example to complete your new modular base plate system? Which I'd just like to say looks awesome and the lighting would be ace!!
I was planning on just raising the modulars up on some thin acrylic 32x32 sized sheets. Don’t fancy disassembling every modular building to do it this way
48x48 baseplate, At least seven 2x4 plates to support a 16x32 area. Then a 16x16 green and a 16x16 gray. Lay a 16x16 road in front and that's half the 48x48 baseplate, plus the sidewalk will be a tile up. Several of the new city sets and the road plate set come with 8x16 greens and similar sizes, so modular sets can be easily upgraded by exchanging the baseplate with two 16x16 plates, or an 8x16 green plate with maybe just two other plates.
I'm not a city builder, it has crossed my mind...but, this does seem wrong. True, building another layer is nice for light wires. I don't have a desire to do so. Nor do I desire to have to build extra layers to raise structures. Unless they plan to raise all their structures themselves, which means more parts count and higher prices in the future. Give it a couple years and let's see how it goes before I decide to jump on board or not. Don't get me wrong, I kinda like how modular and customizable these would be.
Probably not an ideal solution, but: put loose flat tiles underneath the base plate of the modular building to raise it to the right height; minimal work, makes it compatible, just that the tiles are not attached XD
The real question is what will the new modular have for its base. Will it be same as the previous ones or will it be a new design to link to the new roads. Guess we will find out tomorrow...
Yeah this was my worry and the main reason i started tinkering with the new system. I believe its going to use baseplates though so everyone can breath a sigh of relief :)
If they're still selling baseplates it shouldn't be an issue. You'd just have to put the modular on it. Or if you're really sure you want two buildings next to each other, get a 32x32 baseplate for them and use a 16x32 for the road outside.
Thanks! 👍i really hoping the existing ones dont retire to be honest, but i think i will gradually incorporate these to gain space back for more buildings :)
@@BricknIt I’ve been saying a few times I’m hopeful that they retire the twin pack style and sell them individually for £5 each. These new styles are excellent for the 5+ range where the building don’t have roads. But for the afol community the traditional design is perfect. Really like how streamlined you fitted the road to your modular.
I'm just starting out on my LEGO Modular City journey and this has definitely complicated matters! An interesting solution - but I just wish we didn't have to implement a solution like this at all! 😅 Awesome vid bro - we started doing LEGO RUclips vids at a similar time, so you are a total inspiration for me 😍 I hope you're doing well in these tough times!
I do like the look and versatility of the new road plates but for me they may not be ideal. My Lego town hasn't seen the light of day in 20 years and if I ever decide to buy the modular city buildings then I could incorporate the new plates with the old somehow, maybe use the new for the city centre and modular buildings and keep the old for the outlying areas. They don't really allow for inner city street parking or for running a monorail through the city centre though without building up adjacent plates. There is much to consider....
While you say that they take up less space, I would argue that without that small bit of added space the playability and or appearance of the city will look so much different (likely worse on both accounts). Not a fan as the four cut outs that allow you to place tiles to make a centre line as a + junction it leaves ugly looking lines. While a MILS plate system might be more expensive it is properly modular, and is significantly more customisable. But most importantly the inclusion of the roads within city sets takes pieces away from the actual builds or would increase the price.
Yeah thats a great argument! I think a lot of city builders may not even be aware of MILs so this to them seems like a completely new concept. The MILs system might even be something i transition to at some point but i do think that the new road plates will be easier to get all of the parts etc.
@@BricknIt - well the road is essentially built using 5+ pieces 1x 16x16 base; 4x 2x4 tiles and then another 2-4 as slopes or connecting 2x4 tiles. The base plate may actually be quite handy for MOC builds. For me though I will just keep using the carpet/table.
I'm exited for the new system! I think it looks way more brick build than the old boring plates and needs less space as well. I really liked the street design in the lego movie, and they remind me of that. And maybe they will change the modular houses now to fit the new system. I guess we will find out tomorrow.
Funy thing to know about the new road plates. If you buy 2 Sets of then, you can't connect them. There are no extra tiles in the Set. So you either already have Lego at home and are propably already using the old roads, or you will never be able to build a bigger street without buying tiles from a second hand shop or website. Great thinking by Lego
That's gonna eat up a TON of plates. Basically you're saying we'd have to make a double-layer of plates underneath every single building. while it could be handy for eating up some otherwise hard to use colours (I'm looking at you, orange..), it's still gonna be crazy expensive. One thing I would suggest is to come up with a system that doesn't require a baseplate underneath the roads and buildings. Like, if you're going to have a base built out of plates anyway, why have a baseplate under it?
I've made a little (I say little, but like 1800 pieces) build in LDD of a way it could be done, which actually transitions between the new roads and the old road plates. It's a little tricky, because the new road plates are narrower than the road baseplates. The new plates are 2 lanes in 16 studs, where the baseplates put two lanes in 20 studs. If you're interested in seeing what I came up with, I can give you the .lxf file. I may have also included a quick and dirty modular style building. The downside of my idea is that it doesn't allow a connection between the road and the building. However, if you have a decently sized city, I don't think that should be a problem. The plates will be thick enough that they're not going to slide over each other or anything.
Honestly, I don't understand you. So the best way to use the new roads is... to not use the new road? Then why do you want to go through all the effort (and expanse) to try to approximate it?
Youre thinking of mobile homes. Them can be moved in 1 piece. Modular is prefabricated in sections and put together on site. So they are meant to be permanent once bolted together. 😁
That's a nice video. I like your argumentation that these roadplates are much more space-efficient; I do think it's a good to choice to migrate: 1. Your city will be much denser and interesting. 2. as most people won't migrate your city will be directly unique :)
This is good in theory, but unless you have all those parts spare, it's probably cheaper to go full mils plates if you're just starting out your city, for an existing one, say bricksie or alex nunes, doing that for every building is going to be mega expensive, be cheaper to put 3-5mm ply under all the buildings and sink the road to get the height. we shouldn't have to fix this, just lego getting more money out of us. like the idea though, but for small scale builders its going to cost too much.
Yeah exactly. My City is no where near as massive as Alex's and i would not bother changing at all if i was in their shoes. At the moment i am on the fence about it which is why i made the vid :) to try and problem solve the issue :) im hoping that the old road plates dont go anywhere so people ca use whichever system they want :)
Hi Chris, Yeah, I think you nailed this one here. Or at least this is the way it should go with these new road plates. I’m still very much in doubt wether to hop on over to the new ones. I think we’ll be experimenting on some areas in our city first and maybe the go on over at all eventually. Thanks for the vid!
Very cool! However, wouldn't it be cheaper to get rid of the baseplates on modulars, and just replace them with 16x16 and 8x16 plates? Phase out baseplates - go with a 3 plate high system? (plate +modular -baseplate and plate + 2021 roads) Baseplates aren't readily available, but 16x16 and 8x16 plates are still being released.
Will deffinitky be upgrading to these new plates thankfully my lego city isn’t 25+ buildings but this will be a fun venture. Should be fun to make the roads 2 wide. Wonder if they accommodate for the newer speed champions sets.
Very cool idea! You could put a baseplate underneath the modular and it would be at the same level also. I will switch to this system in my raised area but not in the rest
Just found your channel and this video. I have a relatively small city so it would not cost much for me to swap, so yeah I think I will. I also really enjoy custom lighting, so this is great for that!
I build my modulars on multiple 16x16 plates instead of baseplates, so I won't have any problem aligning them. Even better, I hadn't laid down any roadplates yet, and was thinking about a way to create the roads. I do like the idea for raised footpaths, so I'll find a good way to do that too. Perhaps some extra 16x16 plates under the modular.
Yeah someone else mentioned 16x16baseplates, that might be something i try out. Could make it alot cheaper! I could then change them gradually when i put lighting in the buildings
@@BricknIt With the bookshop and pet shop I made small adjustments in the back: instead of two 16x16 plates, I used one 16x16 and one 16x8 plate. I effectively removed the garden there, but it did allow me to place them in tighter spots. And only minimal adjustments were needed. I started with the plates since I am building my modulars onto a mountain, and clicking plates in place on a mountain top is easier than with base plates. I guess it was a good decission, looking at the new road system :).
If you build everything on baseplates, then you could also just remove the Baseplates... But there’s a much simpler solution. 1. Take 2 48x48 baseplates side by side. 2. Put road on three edges of the baseplates. You should have a 64 x 32 area surrounded on three sides by road. 3. Put some plates on the 64 x 32 area. 4. Put 2 modulars, baseplate and all, on the plates (loose on top of the studs). The sidewalk of the modular is now exactly one plate higher than the road. Very cheap. No modding of modulars required.
Or, just do, from Step 2: 2. Put road on one of the long edges of the basblates. You should have a 32 x 96 area aside to the road. 3. Put some plates on the 32 x 96 area. 4. Put 3 modulars, baseplate and all, on the plates (loose on top of the studs).
@@fhurlbrink absolutely, I’m just trying to convey the geometry. You do want to do something around the edges of the modulars, because they will just slide off if you don’t. That’s why I described the “u shaped” road layout.
Problem solved. Pay more to get less AND THEN buy even more to connect it.
Seems to be bullshit? Yes it is
By all means.
What is wrong with lego.
You have to dispense with logic, when buying Lego stuff
Don't try it. Fanboys will always find a way.
@@MrLPRubi they will give all their money they have to Lego instead of buying by alternative and cheaper companys
Yes you say sure
Has everyone forgotten is that there is no curves coming out
(Citation needed)
I was under rhe assumption they's probably add curves and maybe things like roundabouts later on when they know the system is successful. Otherwise it's not like modular buildings have round curves anyway
@@timquestionmark Well, good luck hoping than LEGO will bring them out any time soon. It would...let's say "surprise" me.
There will be curves, one day
@@BinkBricks Took a hammer and their will be curves soon. :D
this does seem like it works, but thats going to be hell of an expensive setup for any kind of sizeable city
YES! Extremely expensive!
totally agree
Exactly my thought as well... and so many nice plates never to be seen again....
If I was starting from scratch, it would be expensive, but currently the BULK of my collection is an overabundance of plate. It will be nice to actually have something to do with it, instead of having to spend money on containers to store it all.
Not as expensive as the 5 plate high modular MOC road system (forgot the name, sorry)
"it's that simple" LOL!!!
Hahaha, it also took me about 12 hours to figure it all out!
Ez af
@@BricknIt thanks for the video man
@@BricknIt Really? This is no joke? You need 12 hours to find the solution of buying another baseplate and build it two studs higher? You mean 12 seconds. You mean seconds? ^^ This was the first problem I'm thinking about and you say the problem is your solution? WTF!
Here is my solution: Buy the old ones from alternative companies and if you need stackable street plates they're also existing: www.amazon.de/Strictly-Briks-Bauplatten-Kompatibel-F%C3%BChrenden/dp/B07C9YQZTF
Cheapest solution: just get a black table top and add white stickers for lane markings.
I used to do that. If it's done right, it looks very real
Or dark grey
I built my own table and painted it in the same dark grey as Lego roadplates. Then I bought white stickerpapers and cut out road markings. That way I can rearrange the road markings as I please.
love it
True or just print it out on paper and cellotape it to the shelf lol
So I need a weird workaround in order to make lego compatible with lego? No thanks, this company is trying to scam it's customers. These plates are completely outside the Lego system
The new roads aren't outside the LEGO system, the modulars are because they're sat on baseplates, which are half the thickness of a plate; that's incredibly annoying when the system is based on a full plate of thickness. This is why they're phasing out baseplates. These roads are also modular which the old ones weren't.
Simple solution: don't ever buy one of the new city street sets. Don't...!
That’s your opinion dumbass
The new roads are too small for certain trucks to pass each other without touching.
And don’t get me started with new 8 stud wide size of the fing Speed Champions !
Da hat jemand den Helden geschaut
@@zwitshr Oder einfach selbst gemerkt, wie dumm das neue System ist..
Actually, you can combine the modular pieces to make make bigger lanes, just use regular dark grey 2×4 plates in the middle and use the printed plates to connect the 16×16 road plates. Now you have traffic lanes that are 16 studs wide, which can easily fit the widest Speed Champion builds.
@@taqresu5865 how much u wanna pay for this?! i mean, sure, if money is not an issue, go for it.
I actualy have a better sulucion: You just don't buy them
Or even put toilet paper under the plate 😁
@@toolstime5136 hahahahaha
That's a really good solution.
@@projectpitchfork860 you get it!
@@toolstime5136 used one please ....
So we ignore the fact, that some of the old truck/Cars dont fit on the New street And that the effektive plate surface you get ist 4 times more Expensive in comparison to the old street?
Yes.
Da hat einer Held der Steine geguckt xD
You can make the lanes wider, even 16 stud wide lanes if you want.
4 times more expensive? It's $16 just to buy 2 road baseplates at my retail stores (makingthem $8 each), versus the $20 for the new Road Plate set, with half of the value being divided into 4 new road plates (making them $2.50 each).
@@taqresu5865 Take a look at the Held der Steine Video, eventho it's German the makes a direct size comparison.
For the German market the old Streets were listed around 10€ new, the new streets cost about 20€. But with the new streets you can't even cover the Playing surface of 1 Street baseplate. And in the old Street set you get 2 base plates, so for pure playing area the new one ist 4 times more expensive since in the old setup even more playable area cots just 5€.
Material whise + production cost it's more like 3€ for the old set and 4€ for the new since there are more parts. In the dimensions of Lego's production their parts are not that expensive at all. The rest ist just the price tag of the company name.
Oh and did I mention that you could also directly build on the 4 times cheaper old build plates? The new ones are just street, there you need even more overpriced parts to get buildings going.
Problem solved: Just don't buy this crap. If Lego doesn't make enough money, they'll quickly fly out of the catalog and the old streets will come back. That's so easy ;-)
Why solving the problem? Boycott this system! It looks terrible and is garbage. And it is expensive as hell!
Lego is holding a contest: how far can they go with ripping off their customers until the last fan boy notices? Obviously they haven't gone far enough yet.
We really need to boycott this ! Buy every Road-Baseplate you get and then buy them from other Bricksystem Companies. Some actually improved so much on quality to even rival LEGO and they still have Road - Baseplates !
Every Company that produces Brick build Sets is just Laughing at Legos face for making this mistake
Sorry, but you shouldn't have to 'solve' the new road plate system... that suggests it's broken to begin with... which for me personally it is... I really don't like them!
Hopefully we will still be able to pick up the proper road baseplates
Couldn't agree more. The fact that the new roads wouldnt play nice with my existing modulars was keeping me up at night lol. Thats why i tried to figure out a solution to help out :)
I don't think they're broken. What's broken is official Lego baseplates that are a weird size (thickness of the top of a plate). I think it's good they're trying to go away from that system and make it more customizable etc. However they should also just make 16x32 road plates without sidewalks. I also think though that these roads are way too narrow. 7.5 studs per lane if you don't include the lane divider which I feel was already a problem with the current road plates. Well I'm just glad they're trying new things and I hope they keep the old ones still around
@@RCmies It's all personal on what you prefer or not, but totally disagree that baseplates are a problem or a weird size - the clue is in their name 'base' plates - designed to be the base you build upon, which for the road system makes perfect sense, as the lowest part of any town is generally the road surface, then a step up to the pavement (sidewalk) etc... this new system actually puts the road a whole plate (not baseplate) above modular bases... which will make raising a city to match, a very expensive procedure!
The only constraint is that you have to have a two lane road - but really, how many people out there have a Lego city that's big enough for a multi-lane highway?
Wonder why they didn't make the new roads 1 tile + baseplate height, I imagine that would work just as well
even if the new streets would fit in hight, they still look ulgy as F with all those gaps.
So you need to buy a building, than buy enough plates to build it not on the groundplate but on some new plates and then you could connect it to a road wich is to small for most lego-cars. And got no room for a sidewalk or other things ... and is double the price of normal road-plates. Well ... could someone tell me the reason behind it ?
Lego doesn´t give much about customers I guess... They sell 98% overpriced crap today... unfortunately
That's a great mod... but that's an expensive solution specially having so much modulars.
I currently don’t have any road plates, so the new system isn’t a problem for me, as no transition.I much prefer the smaller and narrower roads. The tips are extremely helpful. 😀
Thanks so much :) Yeah just trying to help people out who are on the fence about the new road system as its very expensive to buy road plates, new and old
Yeah I’m sticking with the old ones, first it would cost me hundreds of Euros to buy all those extra baseplates and plates to raise the modulars, second it would take so long to tear apart and reassemble the ground floor of every modular I have, and third I do prefer the wider sidewalk bc the ones on the modulars themselves are a bit thin for my taste. It’s definitely an easy system for kids to connect all their lego houses that are sitting around in the floor but for every Afol‘s Lego City these aren’t efficient and if it would be very costly and time consuming
Lego called, they want their building engineer back.
All seriousness this is super slick and clever. Nice work!
haha thanks so much mate :)
The new road system is fine.... what bothers me more is the shiny tile surface. Objects just are normally not supposed to reflect in a road. If Lego would have at least come up with a road-like surface. The rougher surface on slopes would have been just ideal.
The problem is not that the new road plates are outside the system, they are actually designed according to the "system." What is outside the system are the flimsy baseplates that don't work with Lego geometry. They need to start doing full plate baseplates so that you can not only connect them to other Lego pieces without first adding more baseplates, but so you can vary the elevation of modulars and anything else on a baseplate, whether for variety or to run wiring, or just to get everything to line up like Lego is supposed to. I just buy aftermarket full plate baseplates since you don't see them anyways, they are a fraction of the cost, and they actually work with the system.
There is NO Reason to use this new streets ! Use alternative Brands !
Only downside I see to this is that it requires a LOT of additional bricks/plates just to get your modulars to the same height as the new roads. That's going to get expensive fast, especially if you don't have a lot of spare plates already.
Yeah completely agree! The new road plates seem to be a lot more expensive as well!
Why do you think LEGO introduced the new system? Because they want you to buy tons of plates from their PaB. However, you don't have to follow through with the new road system, unless you want to. You can still get base plates, either new/used from Brick Link or from 3rd party vendors (they even sell double packs of straight roads). I was considering whether or not to switch from 6312 to a MILS-style system, with the new roads I can most probably get there cheaper.
Don’t buy this crap, go to a alternate Brand and buy their Road-Baseplates. Most of them have exactly the same as Legos old ones, even cheaper and their quality is for the most part as good as LEGO’s. No problems fitting other bricks on them at all
I like the thought you put into this. As someone not terribly committed to to baseplates (outside of the annual modulars) I've been on the fence. Although outside of modular buildings looking back over the years.. I've also been ignorant to the fact baseplates are on life support thanks to modulars.
Idk, this is a tough one, plus I'm feeling the pressure that road plates are officially "retired" and oos at most retailers. Please send help. My head hurts from trying to figure out what to do lol
You do not mention that the new road is a bit smaller or thinner than the old road plates, which makes it hard for two 8 stud wide vehicle, such as Speed Champions or trucks to pass each other.
Also the price for the set is quite high. Here in Germany it's 20 Euro which is twice as much as for the base plates.
So the road is more expensive than the old one and you need to lift your whole city to use this, as the other system with base plates (which are like this for nearly 40 years) will let you spend some money.
So you can ask yourself: Are they dumb to not think of this or are they clever to make it this way?
its actually 4times price increase. In the old system u got 2 32x32 baseplates for 10, in the new system u get an area of 32x32 for 20e
The standard LEGO City Trucks are „just“ 6 studs wide. Two of them won’t fit. Now try the 8 stud wide Speed Champions. Lego is testing us
@@ondrejm5042 But they are (more) than twice as thick as a base plate. :P It's scam. point.
Cool! It does cost a lot so I I'm not there yet. But defenately going to buy a set to check it out! The probleme I have with it is that it changes the grit.
Looking at the potential leaks of the new modular, the old road plates will be staying anyways :)
Or slide some cardboard under the modulars and call it the day. Naturally the cardboard comes from old set boxes so you are technically still "in system". :)
Just buy other streets from other companies. xingbao etc have the old ones... Much cheaper
Finally someone has a sensible idea, rather than laying base plates on other plates. I’ve been saying this for ages, everything on my layout is on plates rather than base plates to create a proper curb line. Liked and subscribed. Keep up the good work.
good video Chris ! maybe this is another way to me for the new road plate !
Yeah its a least an option :)
10:08 you don't actually have to take anything apart to separate the modular from the road, you can lift the building and keep the 2x2 plates attached to the sidewalk instead of the road.
Love your idea for a fix. I will just leave it with that. Don’t want to get negative. I’m looking forward to the new system but still not sure if i will switch. Thanks for sharing.can’t wait to see more of your LEGO city. 👍
Love the diplomacy. 😂
hahaha. I never realised how heated the conversation about these road plates would be lol. Im of the same opinion as everyone else when i saw them but for me the added space it will give me is why i tried to see how easy it would be to fit them into the city. As you can tell im still 100% sold on them, but seeming as i will be buying some of the new city buildings next year anyways and they come with the plates im open to testing them and trying them out :) sadly that does make the sets even more expensive!
hahaha!
@@BricknIt i understand the space savings , but the cost is going to hi. First you have cost of the baseplate and then you have to buy the other plates to build it up. I think is a lot of AFOL go this way there will be a shortage of the additional place needed to raise the new road plates. Like the light blue gray tiles. If that’s the case you will have lots of plates you can’t finish because of lack of parts. I guess time will tell. 👍👍
I don’t actually have any roads in my city
‘roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads!’.
Although, if I’m honest, it’s more because I couldn’t be bothered buying any and now don’t really have space and the shapes would just be way too complicated 😉
Looking forward to new city vids though, just wish I didn’t keep getting ideas for new sets from you 😂
Also v interested to see how you get on with lighting
Haha sorry im feeding your addiction! lol
@@BricknIt I can tell! :D lol
I managed to snag a bunch of cheap road baseplates of the earlier generations (1978-2001), which are fairly compatible with each other if you smoothen out the transitions, so I'll go with them if i am to build my own Lego city. I live in a pretty cluttered apartment, though, and I'm starting to realize it might take some time before I could have available the time and space required...
And at the end of the video it finally makes sense. LEGO will make more money because of the update to the new road system. Love the idea of adding plates to incorporate lighting system.
Apple figured this out long ago. Create a new 'improved' thing, that works with nothing they currently make, but if you buy more stuff, you can make your old things work with the new.
You have solved it the best! I love the idea
Glad I could help!
It looks expensive if you have a lot of modulars. But if you have a lot of modulars you already have a lot of money. I still like the old roads. I have big hands and trying to add the details for a two-lane road that's 16 studs across is going to be hard. OTOH you can (in theory) make roads with any number of lanes like a 5 lane main street and 1 lane alleys between buildings and 2 lane residential streets.
Cheaper to buy 2 16x16 plate and replace the base plate
Thats an awesome idea that i didnt even think of! Would be way cheaper too! ill definetely experiment with that when i get my hands on one of the plates
I think this system is stupid, I'm not even going to consider buying these trash versions of roads. The 2 sets of normal road plates are perfect for modular buildings and much easier. I would advise you to not waste your time or your money on this bad excuse for a city road set.
I avoid all of these problems by placing all of my modulars on top of another baseplate, and overlapping them over the road baseplates. That way they are on the exact same height as everything else, the roads take up less space, and I can still move the modulars around as much as I want. I also don't have to modify the modular buildings at all, they are still on their original baseplates.
one thing, plates are expensive and the new road system is also more expensive then the 2 base plates sold together. So I hope they will keep the older ones too
Yeah it gets extremely expensive. I personally think they will be keeping both road plate systems for a long time yet.
I've been debating if I like the new road system. This video makes me slightly more optimistic. I'll still need to buy some and experiment to decide if they're for me.
Yeah exactly :) I just wanted to keep an open mind and experiments, after all that is what lego is about :)
You can buy the bricks from an alternative Lego producer. That will be cheaper...
That is a great solution! It could also be possible to use the big grey baseplates as the base for an entire city and then just placing the modular with the baseplate on top of those grey baseplates (plus one plate of height for a curb) so you would not have to modify each modular 😱 it would be a bit more costly I think tho 🧐
Wouldn’t it be cheaper just to leave the new road plates alone and simply set an additional baseplate under the untouched modulars? The two baseplates should make the modulars about one plate higher than the road plate, and you can still move the modulars by simply picking them up, without having to disconnect anything.
Best solution
Hello! This video brought me to your channel. I’m glad to see a new face in the LEGO RUclips community! Looking forward to more content!
I like what you’ve done here. I’m looking forward to experimenting with the new road system. Should make a dual carriageway easier to do. Think I’ll use both the original plates and the new system in different areas!
Thats a very good point! A dual carriageway would look awesome!
I like what you've done. it adds a nice curb. However my plan is to just put a layer of baseplates on my table. Place the road plate directly on the table baseplate, and rest the modular building as is on top of the baseplate (built on its own baseplate just set on top of the table baseplate. This makes its sidewalk even with the road. I can choose to clip it in then, or just have the roads and other buildings hold it in place.
That seems like an awesome idea :)
why they take away baseplate road plates why??? this just making it complicated...but good work man!
Great video as always, I will not be adopting the new road plate system because for me it is to costly. Sorry I missed the livestream yesterday, I had no school and was working on preparing for thanksgiving but I am looking forward to the next livestream! Have a great day!
I like your thought process, but I would adjust it by making your modular base a full mini mils and just adding tiles to the road plate so that you can still pull everything out and move around as is often the case. Bravo for rolling with the change and not just throwing up "roadblocks" (sorry for the pun)
Thanks mate i really appreciate it. Some people think ive been paid, because i am embracing the change lol
It's only a change if you accept it. Why not just buy old baseplates instead of wasting tons of money on ugly, reflecting roads which are too small for most cars and don't fit naturally into the baseplate system?! Makes zero sense.
This is a good idea, after you get your hands on a few road sets we will see if you stick with this plan.
I do not mind the idea of turning the city into a "Mini Mills Plate" as you say, I just wish lego would design, and release a smooth curve. (I have never liked any mills plate curves I have seen so far) I feel like lego is forcing everyone to build cities with just straight, Tee, and 4 way intersections. (I also heard a rumor that baseplate roads may stay for 18+, and the new road plates are for 5+ builds.)
To my mind a difference of two plates between the road surface and the footpath would be more realistic. This would the baseplate for the modulars would be three plates high with one layer of smooth plates (=4 plates high against the 2 plates height of the road sections). I suspect that we'll see 16x32 (or similar) by 3 plate high baseplates, likely with holes along the side for technic connecter pins as are now built into the walls for the modulars. This would make the modulars more modular with the connector pins in the plates rather than trying to match the pin locations in the designs of each modular. Parks, gardens, alleyways, and more will now be options for offical Lego modulars as the location of the connector pins wouldn't matter. I suspect we'll also see special connections/connectors to bridge between the new road plates and any new baseplates.
I'll still using a 2005 road plates because on this plates its easier to build house next to the road
Great video - thanks for doing this as it really detailed and give a good idea of how to integrate the new road plates into a Lego city. The finished article does look great but do do this for a whole city will be very expensive - For now, I think I will stock up on the old style road plates before they retire.
Thanks so much mate. That was exactly the point of the vid :) To show people how much work it would be for the new system and whether they want to adopt it or not. A lot of people seem to think im now condemning the old system and i must be cancelled lol
You would think Lego would have already had a layout done with the new road system. Then been like "hey look how awesome our new road system is and what you can do with it!" But.. no. Atleast I haven't found that anywhere yet.
I would actually do that way easier where you don't need the extra baseplates at all.
Just leave the road plate as it is and rebuild/move your modular building from the baseplate on to 2 16x16 plates, 1 8x16, 1 6x16 and then you have the space for the boardwalk connection, under them you can put the same "outline" that you have with the 2x4 plates. Done. You have the exact same effect like in your video but without any baseplates. You don't need one extra for the roads and you basically do it exactly like you did, but minus the baseplate on the modular building and road plate.
Love your idea for the raised sidewalk by the way. These 2x2 plates with only studs on one side are the ultimate solution for that problem.
I think you're making it over complicated when you add the base plate under the road plate. Just ditch the base plate under the house and build it all with plates instead.
Using separate plates is weaker than using 1 baseplate
Yeah, if you want to rebuild the whole first floor of EVERY modular you own.
@@uncommonsense7830 Surely you’d only need to rebuild the tiling, because the building itself can be “peeled” off of the baseplate.
@@cosmicjenny4508 Not really, I own my fair share of modulars, and I can safely say those things are like fuckin' glue! They're built in a way that doesn't allow them to come off without taking everything apart. Plus, even if it was that easy, I would never spend that much time taking each individual 1x1, 1x2, 2x2, 2x3, and 2x4 tiles apart from the baseplate. What a waste that would be!
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So useful, thank you.
That's an awesome solution! The one thing I would do differently is when taking it apart, rather than having to disturb the pavement pieces I would would just take the road off leaving the connector pieces attached to the building rather than the road.
I've been trying to think of a way these new roads would work with the modulars and I was thinking of something along the same lines. Definitely going to be doing this!
First time watcher. I've always liked lego so came across your video. I really enjoyed it and found it so interesting so just wanted to send my thanks, a little thumbs up and a new subscriber.
I'm looking to potentially start collecting lego again but where do you buy your lego from? Not the sets but individual pieces for example to complete your new modular base plate system? Which I'd just like to say looks awesome and the lighting would be ace!!
usually bricklink is the go to.
I was planning on just raising the modulars up on some thin acrylic 32x32 sized sheets. Don’t fancy disassembling every modular building to do it this way
48x48 baseplate, At least seven 2x4 plates to support a 16x32 area. Then a 16x16 green and a 16x16 gray. Lay a 16x16 road in front and that's half the 48x48 baseplate, plus the sidewalk will be a tile up.
Several of the new city sets and the road plate set come with 8x16 greens and similar sizes, so modular sets can be easily upgraded by exchanging the baseplate with two 16x16 plates, or an 8x16 green plate with maybe just two other plates.
I'm not a city builder, it has crossed my mind...but, this does seem wrong. True, building another layer is nice for light wires. I don't have a desire to do so. Nor do I desire to have to build extra layers to raise structures. Unless they plan to raise all their structures themselves, which means more parts count and higher prices in the future. Give it a couple years and let's see how it goes before I decide to jump on board or not. Don't get me wrong, I kinda like how modular and customizable these would be.
Probably not an ideal solution, but:
put loose flat tiles underneath the base plate of the modular building to raise it to the right height; minimal work, makes it compatible, just that the tiles are not attached XD
Really good advice! But still I'm glad I have enough old roads haha 🤣
Alternatively, put the modulars on plates directly? Cheaper and you still get the benefits of the (smaller and more versitile) new roads.
That was my thought as well. Why bother with the baseplates at all?
The real question is what will the new modular have for its base. Will it be same as the previous ones or will it be a new design to link to the new roads. Guess we will find out tomorrow...
Yeah this was my worry and the main reason i started tinkering with the new system. I believe its going to use baseplates though so everyone can breath a sigh of relief :)
If they're still selling baseplates it shouldn't be an issue. You'd just have to put the modular on it. Or if you're really sure you want two buildings next to each other, get a 32x32 baseplate for them and use a 16x32 for the road outside.
See, as someone who hasn't started a city yet, i love the new system tbh...
so u like being forced to raise all new buildings u buy cuz even for those the streets are too high? ok dude.
Hopefully all new Modular Buildings starting 2022 will have a higher base. I would prfere it
That’s a pretty neat solution to incorporate the new roads. Awesome video.
Thanks! 👍i really hoping the existing ones dont retire to be honest, but i think i will gradually incorporate these to gain space back for more buildings :)
@@BricknIt I’ve been saying a few times I’m hopeful that they retire the twin pack style and sell them individually for £5 each. These new styles are excellent for the 5+ range where the building don’t have roads. But for the afol community the traditional design is perfect.
Really like how streamlined you fitted the road to your modular.
I'm just starting out on my LEGO Modular City journey and this has definitely complicated matters! An interesting solution - but I just wish we didn't have to implement a solution like this at all! 😅 Awesome vid bro - we started doing LEGO RUclips vids at a similar time, so you are a total inspiration for me 😍 I hope you're doing well in these tough times!
you dont have to. use the old baseplates. ez fix.
I have vintage lego roadplates, they'll do for me. I don't have bricks to spare building MILS plates.
Yeah, exactly :) i think if u have the old ones and like them then keep them :)
I do like the look and versatility of the new road plates but for me they may not be ideal. My Lego town hasn't seen the light of day in 20 years and if I ever decide to buy the modular city buildings then I could incorporate the new plates with the old somehow, maybe use the new for the city centre and modular buildings and keep the old for the outlying areas. They don't really allow for inner city street parking or for running a monorail through the city centre though without building up adjacent plates. There is much to consider....
While you say that they take up less space, I would argue that without that small bit of added space the playability and or appearance of the city will look so much different (likely worse on both accounts).
Not a fan as the four cut outs that allow you to place tiles to make a centre line as a + junction it leaves ugly looking lines.
While a MILS plate system might be more expensive it is properly modular, and is significantly more customisable.
But most importantly the inclusion of the roads within city sets takes pieces away from the actual builds or would increase the price.
Yeah thats a great argument! I think a lot of city builders may not even be aware of MILs so this to them seems like a completely new concept. The MILs system might even be something i transition to at some point but i do think that the new road plates will be easier to get all of the parts etc.
@@BricknIt - well the road is essentially built using 5+ pieces 1x 16x16 base; 4x 2x4 tiles and then another 2-4 as slopes or connecting 2x4 tiles.
The base plate may actually be quite handy for MOC builds.
For me though I will just keep using the carpet/table.
I'm exited for the new system! I think it looks way more brick build than the old boring plates and needs less space as well. I really liked the street design in the lego movie, and they remind me of that. And maybe they will change the modular houses now to fit the new system. I guess we will find out tomorrow.
I think the modular will keep the same old style looking at the leaks :)
Great video Chris!
I really needed this video!!!!
Glad i could help :)
Is that felt on your table? I was looking to put something similar on my desk to protect it and stop pieces rolling everywhere.
Yes it is :) Its a large felt mouse mat :)
Funy thing to know about the new road plates. If you buy 2 Sets of then, you can't connect them. There are no extra tiles in the Set. So you either already have Lego at home and are propably already using the old roads, or you will never be able to build a bigger street without buying tiles from a second hand shop or website.
Great thinking by Lego
That's gonna eat up a TON of plates. Basically you're saying we'd have to make a double-layer of plates underneath every single building. while it could be handy for eating up some otherwise hard to use colours (I'm looking at you, orange..), it's still gonna be crazy expensive.
One thing I would suggest is to come up with a system that doesn't require a baseplate underneath the roads and buildings. Like, if you're going to have a base built out of plates anyway, why have a baseplate under it?
I've made a little (I say little, but like 1800 pieces) build in LDD of a way it could be done, which actually transitions between the new roads and the old road plates. It's a little tricky, because the new road plates are narrower than the road baseplates. The new plates are 2 lanes in 16 studs, where the baseplates put two lanes in 20 studs.
If you're interested in seeing what I came up with, I can give you the .lxf file. I may have also included a quick and dirty modular style building. The downside of my idea is that it doesn't allow a connection between the road and the building. However, if you have a decently sized city, I don't think that should be a problem. The plates will be thick enough that they're not going to slide over each other or anything.
Honestly, I don't understand you. So the best way to use the new roads is... to not use the new road? Then why do you want to go through all the effort (and expanse) to try to approximate it?
Nice video Chris I have been thinking about making a LEGO city so I might get the new road plates.
The new sets come with some anyways so you can always experiment with those pieces :)
Youre thinking of mobile homes. Them can be moved in 1 piece. Modular is prefabricated in sections and put together on site. So they are meant to be permanent once bolted together. 😁
That's a nice video. I like your argumentation that these roadplates are much more space-efficient; I do think it's a good to choice to migrate: 1. Your city will be much denser and interesting. 2. as most people won't migrate your city will be directly unique :)
This is good in theory, but unless you have all those parts spare, it's probably cheaper to go full mils plates if you're just starting out your city, for an existing one, say bricksie or alex nunes, doing that for every building is going to be mega expensive, be cheaper to put 3-5mm ply under all the buildings and sink the road to get the height. we shouldn't have to fix this, just lego getting more money out of us. like the idea though, but for small scale builders its going to cost too much.
Yeah exactly. My City is no where near as massive as Alex's and i would not bother changing at all if i was in their shoes. At the moment i am on the fence about it which is why i made the vid :) to try and problem solve the issue :) im hoping that the old road plates dont go anywhere so people ca use whichever system they want :)
Hi Chris,
Yeah, I think you nailed this one here. Or at least this is the way it should go with these new road plates. I’m still very much in doubt wether to hop on over to the new ones. I think we’ll be experimenting on some areas in our city first and maybe the go on over at all eventually.
Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for the tips l related to the same problem
Happy to help :) Its not a perfect solution but at least its a start :)
that's exactly what lego wants. you should buy more stones because it doesn't normally fit. Stupid fix ...
My cheapest solution is just placing paper under the modular buildings to make the new road plates the same height as the modular!
Look ugly xd
But you can’t see it and I am just 14 years old,I don’t have much money to spend on so many baseplates
@@magnuschristian7663 How? If it's literally under the baseplate and you won't see it?
Very cool! However, wouldn't it be cheaper to get rid of the baseplates on modulars, and just replace them with 16x16 and 8x16 plates? Phase out baseplates - go with a 3 plate high system? (plate +modular -baseplate and plate + 2021 roads) Baseplates aren't readily available, but 16x16 and 8x16 plates are still being released.
Will deffinitky be upgrading to these new plates thankfully my lego city isn’t 25+ buildings but this will be a fun venture. Should be fun to make the roads 2 wide. Wonder if they accommodate for the newer speed champions sets.
Very cool idea! You could put a baseplate underneath the modular and it would be at the same level also. I will switch to this system in my raised area but not in the rest
Yeah ive seen that. Its technically an illegal build though :)
@@BricknIt Yeah, but that is what heaps of other LEGO youtubers do.
Dude, job well done, good design and looks seamless
Thanks so much :) I really appreciate it :)
This was my working theory on how to do this. Then I looked at my 11, soon to be 12 modulars 😅
Just found your channel and this video. I have a relatively small city so it would not cost much for me to swap, so yeah I think I will. I also really enjoy custom lighting, so this is great for that!
I build my modulars on multiple 16x16 plates instead of baseplates, so I won't have any problem aligning them. Even better, I hadn't laid down any roadplates yet, and was thinking about a way to create the roads. I do like the idea for raised footpaths, so I'll find a good way to do that too. Perhaps some extra 16x16 plates under the modular.
Yeah someone else mentioned 16x16baseplates, that might be something i try out. Could make it alot cheaper! I could then change them gradually when i put lighting in the buildings
@@BricknIt With the bookshop and pet shop I made small adjustments in the back: instead of two 16x16 plates, I used one 16x16 and one 16x8 plate. I effectively removed the garden there, but it did allow me to place them in tighter spots. And only minimal adjustments were needed. I started with the plates since I am building my modulars onto a mountain, and clicking plates in place on a mountain top is easier than with base plates. I guess it was a good decission, looking at the new road system :).
Wow that looks amazing Chris, definitely using this method in my city. Such a genius method of making the new roads and modulars fo together
Looks good, but is a big investment !
If you build everything on baseplates, then you could also just remove the Baseplates...
But there’s a much simpler solution.
1. Take 2 48x48 baseplates side by side.
2. Put road on three edges of the baseplates.
You should have a 64 x 32 area surrounded on three sides by road.
3. Put some plates on the 64 x 32 area.
4. Put 2 modulars, baseplate and all, on the plates (loose on top of the studs).
The sidewalk of the modular is now exactly one plate higher than the road.
Very cheap. No modding of modulars required.
Or, just do, from Step 2:
2. Put road on one of the long edges of the basblates.
You should have a 32 x 96 area aside to the road.
3. Put some plates on the 32 x 96 area.
4. Put 3 modulars, baseplate and all, on the plates (loose on top of the studs).
@@fhurlbrink absolutely, I’m just trying to convey the geometry. You do want to do something around the edges of the modulars, because they will just slide off if you don’t. That’s why I described the “u shaped” road layout.