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- The go-to scripture that critics use to supposedly "prove" the Seventh-day Sabbath was done away with. But what does Colossians 2:16 really mean in its context and when compared to the rest of scripture? Can we gather help from where, perhaps, Paul is quoting from? #sabbath #sda #adventistchurch #seventhdayadventist #ellengwhite #christianity #christ #jesus #god #adventist #sdachurch #apologetics #lordsday
Thank you, gentlemen, for the EXCELLENTLY EXCELLENT breakdown of this amazingly amazing Scripture text. I love how righteously righteous the explanation was given. Love it all.....
Correct
People will say many things to fit their lifestyle. That includes keeping the sabbath or not, what animals are ok to eat (many "christians" eat pork), what type of music is ok to listen to, etc... I keep the sabbath and feel that GOD made it holy for a reason. I can't force anyone to do what I do, that's between them and GOD. If one has ears, let them hear.
That is correct. We're not supposed to judge in those things. However, we're instructed to still bring the truth to people and then like you say that their ears here are not, but that also means if we know the truth we are to keep it. There's a lot of people who hear the truth and choose not to keep it. So it's still a commandment, but we just don't force it down. Their throats like they're trying to do now. In the public spectrum like we predicted through prophecy that they would.
If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on *my holy day* and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
{Isaiah 58:13}
Is God's holy day no longer honorable?
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that *I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah*
{Jeremiah 31:31}
No covenant was made with the Gentiles. The Gentiles are grafted in to the Holy One Of Israel, our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Lol it’s funny, I was studying this that last few days and literally just yesterday I looked on your channel to see if you had anything for this, amen thanks for sharing.
We have more videos coming about this text. Stay tuned.
The sabbaths is in plural because it is referring to the 7 ceremonial sabbaths the jews celebreted throughout the year. Each of them lasted like seven straight days and included offering of meat, drink and burnt offering. It doesn't refer to the 7th day sabbath
I don't know if the channel will see this common. But you guys do a great job and I know some people would accuse you of certain things. Which they shouldn't, but they would most likely because you're moving with truth and they don't want you to also because you're younger. So they think they're wiser when they're not either way. Great job, guys.
All of Colossians has been grossly misinterpreted . These are all about the ceremonial laws, Sacrifices of Lambs for sin, Feast Days, meat and drink offerings, ceremonial sabbath days which were yearly, on different days of the week, because they were controlled by the New Moon. The seventh day Sabbath were never call Handwritings of Ordinances, never said to be against us nor contrary to us, never nailed to the Cross.
Jesus fulfilled all the ceremonial laws at the Cross. The Ten Commandments are still in tact, including the seventh day Sabbath.
Many misinterpret text to make them say what they want them to say, not what they actually are saying to their own destruction. 2 Peter 3 15-17
Abolished? Sabbat is eternal... You can find some texts in the Bible saying this. As soon as they sayh sabbat is abolished I wonder which command of the ten will be the next to be abolished...
Praise the Lord, for his wonderful people, young men that are advocating/ defending the precious Sabbath day ( the Law of the Lord).
One thing I noticed, when you are showing that all the “shadows” or ceremonial “Sabbaths” have a references to : meats, drinks, bread and made by fire etc… .
The Sabbath of the fourth commandment ( the moral law) even in Leviticus 23:3 it doesn’t have any references to drinks, meats or sacrifices made by fire….. Why??
Because this Sabbath commandment it is NOT A SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME.
In other words the Sabbath is a sinless institution.
Guys, can you go one on one with other apologists??? This is good stuff...
They'd have to contact us. We don't typically look for debates but will consider it if they make the first move.
There is a debate with Edwin M. Cotto and a Catholic apologist you might like:
ruclips.net/video/IGOL38HEgiw/видео.htmlsi=oTiLitLYx7ndn0yC
@@AdventDefenseLeague awesome, will check it out... It's just that I see pages like Answering Adventism having their way with words and no one there to respond... It really saddens me
@@oanthatakealeboga571 ha! Myles was already invited to a debate and came up with every excuse. We have several videos of him on our channel. Check them out!
So lets ask:-
The claim of ancient Meaddes/Persians, the Popes and the Almighty is that they do not change or rescind laws, why do people insist God changed His?
God gave the death penalty for breaking His Seventh Day Sabbath and people did die, is it then fair and just not to do the same for new covenant era?
When God made the new covenant with Man, He says He'll write His Laws upon our hearts, what are they?
When God made the new agreement with Man, did He change the substance of the old covenant?
Did God make any other day special?
Isn't it disrespectful and disobedient to willfully go against God when He says for us to "remember"?
God calls us to come and reason.
Jesus goes to the Synagogue on the seventh day sabbath as a Christ follower, don't let Him go alone, follow Him.
Don't be deceived.
Thank you brothers for sharing this truth.. May our almighty father continue bless this channel
You are very welcome
Are there any articles on the ADL page regarding Numbers 28:9,10? I am wondering what our answer to the additional sacrifices that were made on the Sabbath
Hello friend. I don't have an article specific to those texts but feel free to ask a question about them and we can prayerfully attempt an answer.
@AdventDefenseLeague I understand that the Sabbath is not a feast("chag"). I understand that leviticus 23 sets the Sabbath apart from all other appointed times "moed".
My question, I guess, would be how do we explain the additional sacrifices that were to be made on the Sabbath referred to in Numbers 28:9,10? You had the daily sacrifices that were to be offered on the Sabbath like any other day, but God also found it important to add two additional sacrifices on the Sabbath day. How do we reconcile the need for these, and what answers do we give when individuals say that the weekly Sabbath is ceremonial and include these ceremonial rites and Bible passage for their justification??
Although it doesn't say out right that these additional sacrifices make atonement for sin. The additional sacrifices to that of the daily seem infer to me at least that the Sabbath in some way had a propitiatory component to it.
So how do we draw the line when it comes to this passage when we say that the weekly Sabbath was not ceremonial or used as a shadow of the forgiveness of sin. I hope that made sense.
@ballenparks1231 That's a great question. I'll share some thoughts, and you let me know what you think.
The sacrifices, no matter the quantity, would not make the seventh day Sabbath ceremonial any more than it would make the first day, or second day, or third day ceremonial. If sacrifices makes the day ceremonial, why aren't the other days ceremonial since sacrifices were done on those days also? As I see it, the day remains just a day whether or not ceremonial sacrifices are performed on it. Likewise, the Sabbath remains the Sabbath, with its moral aspect, no matter the sacrifices done upon it. This is mainly because the Sabbath can exist apart from those sacrifices since it has been a weekly institution since creation.
Similarly, the feast days are ceremonial, not because the day is ceremonial, but because the significance placed upon the day with its rituals are ceremonial. Note that under certian circumstances, Passover can be observed on the fourteenth day of the second month instead of the fourteenth day of the first month (Num. 9:1-14). Not that this changes the Passover day, but that the exception at least implies its ceremonial, changeable nature. But this is never the case for the Sabbath. The Sabbath is never observed on any other day under any circumstance. It has been the seventh day from creation. I think this evinces its moral nature.
Moreover, sacrifices were attached in some fashion to all of God's laws, including the moral ones. Weren't the Israelites supposed to bring sacrifices when they broke any of the other nine commandments as well? And yet, that would not make those nine commandments ceremonial. No, only the offerings were ceremonial. The nine remained moral. Just like how on the seventh day, the sacrifices were ceremonial while the sacred day itself remained moral.
Why sacrifices on the Sabbath though? And why double on the Sabbath? I don't really know, and the context of Num. 28 doesn't tell us. So, what follows is only what makes sense in my mind. You are welcomed to take it with a grain of salt.
Why on the Sabbath? Perhaps because if the sacrifices represent Jesus, we need to walk with Him every day, including on the seventh day. Every day His blood should be available to wash away the sins of anyone who decides to come to Him. And why double the sacrifices on the Sabbath? Maybe because of the Sabbaths special significance. It represents both creation (Gen. 2:2-3, Exo. 20:11) and redemption (Deut. 5:15), two qualities of Jesus who is both the creator and the redeemer. The seventh day is especially special due to these biblical motifs. Bringing in more sacrifices on that day, I am sure, gave it greater importance to the minds of the Israelites. Everyday I rest, but I rest more on the Sabbath. Everyday I witness, but I witness more on the Sabbath. It's a special day, so it gets better treatment. And in those days, sacrifices were very important.
I'm not sure if this helped you but it helped me as I thought about lol. Blessings.
The Lord Yeshua bless you.
Keep up the good work gents!
No, it doesn't say you do not have to keep the sabbath, it says what day. Specifically. I was taught as SDA Saturday the 7th day in Leviticus. But I've always had the question how do I defend this against those who say Sunday we know was because of festivals on Sunday. But we follow the day Jesus rested when killed. But Jews followed Saturday before Christ came and died. Paul said we will not be judged by the RULES we follow. He incl Sabbath dayS as in what day referring back to Levitucus. So by God, are we 'required' to keep 'Saturday' as the day of rest?
For Christ is the end [objective] of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
{Romans 10:4}
That the righteousness of the law *might be fulfilled in us* who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but *they that are after the Spirit* the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but *to be spiritually minded is life and peace*
Because *the carnal mind is enmity against God* for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
{Romans 8:4-7}
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *with the mind I myself serve the law of God* but with the flesh the law of sin.
{Romans 7:25}
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or *of obedience* unto righteousness?
{Romans 6:16}
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
So speak ye, and so do, *as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty*
{James 2:11-12}
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole *duty* of man.
{The Preacher 12:13}
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
Amen.
Was the day of atonement against us?
All of the scarfices and feasts pointed to Jesus Christ
We all like to have feast-festival is this aalso against us?
Was the Passover against us?
Ceremonial Sabbath Ezekiel to Colossians
There is no evidence of this word in the scripture👉 ceremonial.😅😂😢
@@kiimahndonahit is in the Bible. Look at the 4:59 mark.
@@kiimahndonahunfortunately many don’t want to know the truth, so they make excuses, or nit pick to deny the truth.
It’s funny that most Christians don’t have a problem with the other 9 commandments. It’s always the Sabbath that’s under attack. If the law could be changed this easy then Jesus death on the cross was in vain. He died to uphold the law and to pay the penalty for us transgressing it. There is such a bowling ball of evidence that the 7th day Sabbath is still to be kept holy. Everyone in Christendom hangs their hat on the BB and not the bowling ball weight of scripture.
This exact word👉 Sabbath was first recorded in the book of exodus 16 , not Geneses and it was a passover Sabbath ,that's y God saith in Exodus 20 👉 REMEMBER. because it was already given at exodus 16. It was for Jews not Christian and it still a command.. Exodus 20 .God hallowed it for same reason also it just because of Exodus 16..This is a passover Sabbath and that exact word Sabbath was first mentioned in book of👉 Exodus not Geneses.
The text is obviously referring to what food or drink is consumed on a Festival New Moon or Sabbath day. Not what day the Festival New Moon or Sabbath is honored. You would be more intellectually honest applying the verse as you can eat leavened bread on the feast of unleavened bread. Or you can eat an animal that died of itself. Or that you can consume an unclean animal. Or you can consume meat that was strangled. Or that you can drink blood. Rather than following Popery with a Sun god sabbath. The Jewish Jerusalem Church Elders answered gentile Christians concerns to abstain from strangled meat & blood. And that the4y will hear Moses preached in every Synagogue. Therefore gentile Christians were expected to attend Synagogue to learn what Yehovah commanded through His Prophet Moses. Such logic would interpret Peter's vision as all animals are good to eat. But the message was that all men are acceptable to GOD.
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
Isaiah 66:22-24
[22]For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
[23]And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
[24]And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ Matthew 18:16
So, what are the other sabbaths that are not the Sabbath Day? When do they occur? And when is the sabbath Day
You can read through Leviticus. Many sabbaths are mentioned there.
@@horpauls You misunderstand my point. Every sabbath happens on a day
@@willpotter8772 that's correct. I'm still not understanding the point though. Are you saying that Colossians is referring to all the sabbath days including the original Sabbath?
@@horpauls what do you mean by the original sabbath
@@willpotter8772 the Sabbath that was instituted at Creation (Ex 20:11)
What does Peter have to say on the matter?
Acts 15:6-11, 'The apostles and elders met to consider this question. After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles (those without the covenant of the law) might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us (who were under the law, through Moses) and them (who were not), for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles A YOKE (the law given through Moses) that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? NO! WE BELIEVE IT IS THROUGH GRACE WE ARE SAVED THROUGH OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, JUST AS THEY ARE.'
The yoke was circumcision in the context. The issue was not the 10 Commandments. They were supposed to learn more about the will of God every Sabbath.
Acts 15:
1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, 👉Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.👈
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to 👉circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.👈
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put 👉a yoke👈 upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Acts 15:21
For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues 👉every sabbath day.👈
@@thatnicekid04 Thanks for your comment. I appreciate the discussion. You are partly correct that the original question was about circumcison. However, it became a wider issue, to be also including the observance of the law of Moses, as Acts 15:5 says, 'But some from the religious party of the Pharisees who had believed stood up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise the Gentiles AND TO ORDER THEM TO OBSERVE THE LAW OF MOSES.”
So, circumcision, if that was merely the context, doesn't seem to me to be much of a 'yoke upon the neck, which we or our forefathers were able to bear'. Or, looking at it another way; juxtaposing circumcision with faith through the grace, hardly seems to be the appropriate comparison they would have been making.
Verse 21 is interesting, though, as to why James felt the need to make it. And it could be infered, as you are doing, that James is saying, the Gentiles can learn these things later.
However, I believe Peter's statement, 'But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they', is not just speaking about circumcision
Someone once, similarly, made the comment that Romans 2 was merely about circumcision. However Roms 2:20, says, 'Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.' Paul is not speaking of circumcision because circumcision doesn't make anyone conscious of their sin. Paul goes on in verse 21, 'But now a righteousness of God APART FROM THE LAW has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.' Cheers
@@thatnicekid04 Anither thing to consider is that at that time, the apostles in Jerusalem, being Jewish, had not come into the full revelation of the grace of God through faith, regardless of the law. Look at the example of Peter and his vision regarding things unclean.
@@robertcain3426 I'm not sure if you are aware, but the vision of Acts 10 had nothing to do with food, but people (Acts 10:28).
Also I see that it is pretty consistent that Paul preached against ordinances (ceremonial laws) that were required for forgiveness of sin.
Paul also said this...
1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.
So it wasn't the whole law that Paul preached agaist. Just the ceremonial portions, which included circumcision, sacrifices, feast days, and ceremonial sabbath days.
Paul is also including mostly the traditions of the Elders that was considered law by the pharisees and was the burden. God's laws, commandments, instructions, ordinances ( the Torah) was never a burden but a blessing as stated multiple times in scripture.
Here is the clear plain explaination of Colossians 2-14-16 👉 Ephesians 2:15 it reads , HAVING ABOLISHED IN THE FLESH THE EMNITY,EVEN THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS CONTAINED IN ORDINANCES, its already clear guys..
Is that chapter is about circumcision, which has nothing to do with the written word of God on the decalogue. They resolve this matter in Acts chapter 15 in which there were only a few restrictions from the law of Moses carried over but the decalogue is never questioned because the decalogue is moral.
Read down to Colossians 2:22. the commandments and ordinances of MAN.
Ephesians
@@FishermensCornerWhat is the rest of Ephesians 2 about? the Pharisees law of not communing with gentiles.
False presuppositions leads to a false conclusion.
The sabbath is not an ordinance.
@@heidioverall100 circumcision is directly from the levitical law carried over from the covenant with abraham. Ephesians is very clearly about the Law of Moses in any Associated prohibitions added onto it, not the Decalogue.
That verse was a general reference but also written by Paul. Paul himself held the sabbath but taught others not to. Paul was not known for being honest and upright and even took his message in the opposite direction geographically than the actual companions of Jesus because they could easily refute him. Paul never met Jesus and merely claimed to have a vision of Jesus, which is the exact same claim that Joseph smith made who founded moralism. Those who actually knew Jesus did not believe in what Paul spoke of. The Bible itself is full of fabrications and known errors. Firstly, Paul did not write all that is claimed to be from him. There are so many verses found throughout the New Testament that aren’t original. 1 John 5:7 is the only reference to a trinity and the verse is fabricated. It was not found in any early manuscript and was added into the Latin vulgate. We even know who added and why. The entire story of the adulterous woman is 100% fabricated. Again, scholars know and speak of this. Sunday was never a day singled out by Jesus or any of his followers for religious service. Also, Christmas, Easter, etc all are deeply rooted in paganism and have nothing to do with the Bible at all. Scholars know this and talk about it.
Feasts of the Lord
Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
The Sabbath
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. The Sabbath is the 1st and most popular feast.
The ceremonial law was never against you.
Oh dear
Eze 46:3 Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons.
Eze 46:4 And the burnt offering that the prince shall offer unto the LORD in the sabbath day shall be six lambs without blemish, and a ram without blemish.
Eze 46:5 And the meat offering shall be an ephah for a ram, and the meat offering for the lambs as he shall be able to give, and an hin of oil to an ephah.
Eze 46:6 And in the day of the new moon it shall be a young bullock without blemish, and six lambs, and a ram: they shall be without blemish.
Eze 46:7 And he shall prepare a meat offering, an ephah for a bullock, and an ephah for a ram, and for the lambs according as his hand shall attain unto, and an hin of oil to an ephah
The Old Testament is a history book to me (being a Christian) and not doctrine at all. My Doctrine starts at Acts. I go by what Jesus says and only Jesus for he is the one that died for my sins and the only reason why I am making it into Heaven. IMO - The Devil got busy when Jesus died and the first line on business is to move the Sabath to Sunday and get everyone thinking Jesus is God. That way it will be easier for everyone to worship him like God if everyone already things the Messiah is actually really God. and it is working big time. Remember, we will all be gone when the final stages take place.
Sabbath is a law of the old. When Christ came, many have changed, the priesthood and even the law (law of Moses) Heb. 7:12. In fact, the old law and prophets have limitations Luke 16:16. What everybody should do now is to follow the laws of Jesus Galatians 6:2. Jesus even reminded all to observe all that He commanded for all that He commanded where from the the Father John 7:16 and John 12:49-50. Now, if you wish to keep the sabbath, then you subject/enbrace yourself under the law of Moses. My 2 cents.
1 John 2:1-6 tells us not to sin.
1 John 3:4 tells us that sin is transgression of the Law of God.
Faith in Christ does not mean we don't keep the Law (Romans 3:31).
The Sabbath is part of the 10 Commandments. We will keep it in Heaven too (Isaiah 66:23).
This verse is twisted to rebuke the Sabbath and to honor the Sunday created by the Catholic Pope, when it is defending the traditions of the Jewish people which still keep the Sabbath and festivals of their faith. When you change the things God instructs then twist the scripture to defend your changes. Sunday is still not the Sabbath but the majority of many Christians follow it but take this verse to criticize the Bible Sabbath and defend the Pope’s Sunday. If you can’t deny something than twist the meaning to confuse the people.
I think the SDA needs to start considering the possibility that Paul was a false apostle, and disregard everything he says. There are many examples where Paul says things that conflict with the words of Peter, James, and Jesus himself. He uses torturous interpretations of scripture, quotes it out of context, and in some cases, quotes only parts of scriptures, which changes the meaning when you leave out the parts that he omits, while still retaining an air of legitimacy. I do not believe that Paul had an experience on the Damascus road, or if he did, it was not Jesus that he encountered. He says that he encountered a voice emanating from a blinding, white light, and who does the Bible tell us appears as an angel of light? Satan. Paul persecuted Christians, but despite his persecutions, Christianity continued to grow. If he couldn't stop it from growing, I believe he (possibly in partnership with Satan), decided to introduce confusion and falsehoods into early Christianity, to lure Christians away from Jesus. The way to prove if a prophet is true, or false, is to compare what they say to scripture, and when you compare Paul's words to scripture, he fails the test more often than he passes it.
What does he say that's conflicting?
Well, Luke and Peter wrote approvingly of Paul so you'd have to begin doubting them too. And down the hill we go from there. I'll pass on that idea.
What I dont understand that how anyone, clergy or congregation, could believe for even one second that Yahweh or Jesus would do away with the Ten Commandments which include the Sabbath rest day. Does God say things, and latter say oooops I made a mistake? There are 2 reasons they CHOOSE to believe this lie.
1/ Because the one suggesting this is not sent by Jesus
2/ Because it is the easy and wide path that suits people.
Very few are sincere with their faith in God Yahweh. If they were, they would keep His commandments.
Edit: BTW... is the coming of Paul mentioned by God, or by Jesus, or by any prophet from the OT? Think about this.... the only reference anywhere in the whole bible that God sent Paul is by his own testimony. Strange right? And yet every man and his dog chooses to follow Paul while relegating Yahweh and Jesus to the rear. Very sad, and is why not all who say Lord Lord will enter heaven.
Well, Luke the physician and historian documents the experience of Paul in Acts. He's a pretty reliable witness.
@@AdventDefenseLeague Not at all, and that has nothing to do with .... *Where was paul's coming prophesied* ? I mean IF this new change in the history of Gods ways (and lets face it... if true, its the biggest thing since short pants mate) was true.... would not God had mentioned it prior like is His character all through the OT? God did mention many things prior to them happening and coming, but does not mention Paul anywhere, even though his testimony is the biggest issue ever right? And your premises that Luke is a reliable witness is very weak indeed... for goodness sake, he was Pauls best mate, of course he would say anything to help Paul. Peter and James did give Paul permission to preach the gospel, but that was before they knew Pauls gospel was NOT the same as Jesus. Later Paul nearly killed James... is this the way of a true Apostle? Jesus did mention Paul by character, but not by name. Jesus said another one would come after him teaching lies and warned not to follow him. This my friend is Paul. Jesus and Paul were within arms reach of each other at the same time.... why jesus not mention him, or make him a disciple? Because Jesus knew him to not be innocent. There is much to know about Paul which is not mentioned in the NT bible. people would do well to investigate.
The New Testament is given you by the very people (RCC) who insisted that Pauls writings be included. At first he was not included, but when Marcion ( a heretic) insisted, it was then included. Late marcion was denounced by the RCC. Pauls teaching is a test from God for every soul that professes Jesus as Saviour. He even said .... *Not everyone who calls me Lord Lord will enter into heaven* Saved by grace is a doctrine from the devil, to lead people from the truth . Jesus said.... *Only by repentance are you saved* So where is grace in that? A new age is dawned, and it is aimed at the lukewarm who do not consider God Yahweh important enough to follow his commandments. They are the MANY in every statement Jesus made; the FEW are those who obey Him
How can you possibly reconcile Pauls teaching with jesus in Rev...
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. (Revelation of John 12:17 [AKJV])
and....
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. (Revelation of John 14:12 [AKJV])
and....
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. (Revelation of John 22:14 [AKJV])
Where is Paul in all this? Nowhere man... only Jesus.
Paul complained that ... "all the churches in Asia have turned against me"
In Revelations, around the same time Paul said this, Jesus COMPLIMENTED those who did NOT obey false apostles. Paul says they turn away from him and at the same time Jesus compliments them for doing so!
Friend, I love anyone who obeys God, and you, because you defend the Sabbath, are doing just that. For this reason I love you, and is why I fight so hard for your soul. Please pray in person as Jesus taught, and not in public as Paul teaches, that God will put the truth on your heart, and then study more of the Paul deception. I have done my part here, as Yahweh has led me; the rest is up to you now. You are blessed to receive what God just gave you at this moment in time.
@@mikeregan2135Peter thought that Paul was legit. Do you disagree with Peter?
2 Peter 3:
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
@@thatnicekid04 I never disagree with Peter, but Peter stopped advocating Paul after he found out the truth that Paul was not from God. Paul put on a big act in front of the Jewish hierarchy in obedience to the law, and as soon as they saw he was "acting" like a true man of God, they gave him permission to preach the "Gospel of Jesus" which Paul did not. Paul then left Jerusalem and preached the opposite to what the Jews and Peter and co witnessed of Paul. Suppose I wanted a gun license to purchase a gun and kill someone I did not like, but to get that gun license I had to display a good character and pass a test. So I did all these things required and was a good little Johnny in front of the authorities, and got my gun license. I then buy a gun and then kill my enemy. This is what Paul did; he did all he had to do, to get his "gospel of Jesus" license... and then preached the opposite after the fact. When you understand the full meaning of a wolf in sheep's clothing... you will see Paul, as he teaches 90% of the truth and 10% lies to lead people down the wide path. A wolf is cunning, and so is Paul. You read all Pauls letters and it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside thinking you are sure you are saved, and so its pretty darn hard to let go of that feeling. You say to yourself, every sin I sin will be forgiven, but it won't unless you repent. Thats the difference between Jesus and Paul. I sincerely wish you the best and hope you find the truth, of which there is only one... the one Jesus taught. If Jesus never said it; forget it.
God will judge these men for their dishonesty. Why didn't you point your audience to read how the princes part was fulfilled in Ezekiel. So they can see that the sabbath of chapter 45:17 was the seventh day of the week. And since you agree that it is the same list in Colossians 2, it is also the seventh day sabbath. Also why don't you use the same lexicon to show the meaning of the word translated as feasts in Leviticus. Show them that this word is moedim in Hebrew, and it means appointed times. The basic meaning of this word is appointment ,and the context will determine whether it is appointed times, appointed places or the appointment itself. No it is abundantly clear that the seventh day was an appointed time, as were the others which were yearly occurrences. So there is no rationality in arguing that the seventh day sabbath was not a feast day like the others listed. That argument boils down to you saying that, that appointed time is not an appointed time, but the other appointed times are appointed times.
Hello Damion. We would be happy for you to challenge us during one of our LIVE platforms. I invite you to hop on when they occur, and we'd be more than happy to address what you have written here. Indeed, God will judge, and we shall both stand on that day side by side at the judgment seat. We will see then what the Lord determines. Meanwhile, let's talk about it face to face.
@@AdventDefenseLeague unless you repent we will not be standing side by side. You will be on the left side, and I, by the grace of God will be on His right side
@damionnewsome4710 unless I repent of YOUR standard and accept your interpretation. So, you set up your standard and condemn me for not accepting it, while not willing to talk about it to determine if truly I or you are in the right or wrong, ignoring my invitation to do so.
I see what you did there. Very clever.
Christians need not keep Sabbaths? A biblical approach:
In Acts 15, a conflict emerges when Jewish Converts insist that the Gentiles must be circumcised or they cannot be saved. Acts 15:1
Paul and Barnabus go to Jerusalem to meet with the Apostles and Elders to settle the matter. Acts 15:2
Once they arrive in Jerusalem with the Apostles and Elders, the Pharisees demand that to be saved the Gentiles must be circumcised, and keep the Law of Moses. Acts 15:3
There is great discussion and argumentation over the matter, and James expresses their answer: Acts 15:20 “but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.” That is their decision.
And so, they decide to write a letter to the Gentiles to tell them what they are expected to observe. Acts 15:22
Luke quotes the letter, and it contains this: Acts 15:24 “Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”-to whom we gave no such commandment-“ Notice! Here there is no commandment to observe any Law of Moses instructions.
And then in Acts 15:28,29 they are given their instructions: “ For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.” Notice! These are the required things. But no burden of keeping the Law of Moses.
This subject pops up again in Acts 21. Paul again goes to Jerusalem and visits James and the Elders. He is accused of not keeping the Law, which Jews must do. And for the THIRD time the instructions for Gentiles is plainly expressed most clearly:
Acts 21:24,25 “you yourself (Paul) also walk orderly and keep the law. 25 But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.”
And there, for the third and final time, the Pillars of the Church had determined, that as a good Jew, Paul was to observe the Law. And that the Gentiles were absolutely not to observe those things! Which included Sabbaths. They had their instructions from the Apostles that did not include the Law of Moses! There is no Sabbath observance apart from the Law of Moses.
Given that their letter did not command the Gentiles to respect God's name or honor their father and mothers, do you suppose that also meant the Gentiles didn't have to keep those either?
@@AdventDefenseLeagueI would suggest Roman’s 4 brother and I say that you are walking on the line of legalism … I tell you that out of Love and Peace for the Word of God is quick and powerful …
@briantaylor1813 ok, what is your definition of legalism?
@@AdventDefenseLeague adding to the righteousness God has revisioned in the New Covenant, By Faith through Grace ALONE
@@AdventDefenseLeague Let No one Judge you in regards to Sabbath days which are a shadow of the things to come but the body is of Christ (Nailed to the Cross) for Where there is no Law there is no Transgression of the Law, So he may have Mercy upon All …
We are in Jesus. Jesus is our Sabbath.
That is a common excuse to reject the 4th Commandment.
@@thatnicekid04 , Good! I’m glad to hear that people are understanding the scriptures. “My Father is working until now and so I’m working”. Amen!
@@shawnglass108 it isn't good to sin though. Transgression any of the 10 Commandments is sin.
Believing in Jesus is the true Sabbath. Read Heb 3&4 in full context not cherry picking v10 only.
In the King James Bible, Colossians 2:16, the word 'days' is in italics, which means it was added at the discretion of the translator and not present in the original text. So it's not the sabbath day, or the sabbath days, it's simply the sabbath. The following verse, v)17 explains by the phrase, "Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is [of] Christ." All the things listed in v)16, meat, drink, holyday, new moon, sabbath, are all shadows. Shadows of what? Shadows of Christ. Christ is our sabbath. As Christians, Christ is our all in all. How? Because we are no longer worshiping in flesh, we worship The Lord in spirit and in truth. The Old Covenant saints worshiped through their flesh, keeping rituals, ordinances, holy days, etc. In the New Covenant,, we worship not through our flesh, but by The Holy Spirit. In essence, we are celebrating sabbath/Christ always, hence there is no specific day.
That is not true.
Jesus is our rest as in the verb. This rest was available in the old covenant as well, and this was in addition to the seventh day sabbath.
Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.
{Psalm 95:11}
Your augment falls apart with this.
The sabbath is not an ordinance which is the context according to verse 14.
@@larrybedouin2921 It's true from where I'm sitting. Eph 2:6, "And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:"
Where are you sitting? In the Old Covenant?
From where I'm sitting, in the New Covenant, in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, He is my eternal sabbath, He is my eternal rest, He is both the noun and the verb. He is both the one doing the action and He is the action, which is eternal sabbath, eternal rest. Shalom
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For Christ is the end [objective] of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
{Romans 10:4}
That the righteousness of the law *might be fulfilled in us* who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but *they that are after the Spirit* the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but *to be spiritually minded is life and peace*
Because *the carnal mind is enmity against God* for it is not subject to the law of God, *neither indeed can be*
{Romans 8:4-7}
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then *with the mind I myself serve the law of God* but with the flesh the law of sin.
{Romans 7:25}
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or *of obedience* unto righteousness?
{Romans 6:16}
But as then he that was born after the flesh *persecuted him that was born after the Spirit* even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:29}
@@larrybedouin2921 Yeah, I've read that passage of scripture before, Larry. So, your point would be what?
@@justpassingthrough2195
Because *the carnal* mind is enmity against God *for it is not subject to the law of God* neither indeed can be.
Your enmity remains.
The Saturday Sabbath belongs to the Jewish people. Christians are not Jewish and as such celebrate God's Sabbath which is every day according to Genesis. You enter the Sabbath by living the gospels.
Do you consider yourself under the New Covenant?
Because the New Covenant was made with the House of Israel. (Jeremiah 31:33)
Gentiles are grafted into Israel (Romans 11:17).
Ceremonial law is not written in the scripture come on
It is in the Bible. Look at the 4:59 mark.
It's called the book of Leviticus.
*@kiimahndonah:* “Ceremonial” originally described a purely religious ritual, from the Latin caerimonia, "holiness or sacredness.
The Etymology Dictionary defines Ceremonial as, "belonging to (religious) ritual," also as a noun, "a ceremonial practice," from Late Latin caerimonialis "pertaining to ceremony," from caerimonia. Ceremonial means connected with or constituting or consisting of or fit for a ceremony [i.e. a piece of ritual or formality] or ceremonies .... Ceremonious means full of or resulting from ceremony i.e. attention to forms.
*The ceremonial laws are called hukkim or chuqqâh in Hebrew Strong’s ref H2708, which literally means “custom of the nation” or ordinance.* They include instructions on regaining right standing with God [e.g., sacrifices and other ceremonies regarding “uncleanness”], remembrances of God’s work in Israel [e.g., feasts and festivals], specific regulations meant to distinguish Israelites from their pagan neighbors (e.g., dietary and clothing restrictions), and signs that point to the coming Messiah [e.g., Circumcision, Passover etc,.].
Deuteronomy refers to the Jewish laws as, *"Law in a book"* [Deuteronomy 31:24-26]. This "Law in a book was kept, *"in the side of the ark"*
*Pivotal Point:* The ten commandments were placed *INSIDE the ark of the testimony [ark of the covenant] See Exodus 40:20.*
*The 'book of the law' which contained the handwriting of ordinances [ceremonial laws] was placed BESIDE the ark,* NOT inside, and notice the last few words of the above scripture ..... 'for a witness against thee.' ..... *Paul confirmed in Colossians, that it was the handwriting of ordinances THAT WERE AGAINST US, which were taken out of the way and nailed to the cross.* -- *The truth is, it was the 'book of the law' written by Moses, containing the 'handwriting of ordinances' that was against us and nailed to the cross, NOT the Ten commandments.* -- *And the fact that the ten commandments and the 'book of the law' were placed separately apart, shows a clear distinction between the two.*
*This law centered around the sanctuary and its services, all of which, of course, were designed to teach the children of Israel the plan of salvation and point them to the coming Messiah.*
Paul utilizes the key word 'ordinances' to describe ceremonial laws that were related to the sanctuary. From Colossians 2:14-17, we read the following:"2:14-17 *Blotting out the HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.* 15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of *an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:* 17 *Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."*
*Read the commentary by John Wesley:* - *‘This handwriting of ordinances our Lord did blot out, take away and nail to the cross (Colossians 2:14). But the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments, and enforced by the prophets, He did not take away..... The moral law stands on an entirely different foundation from the ceremonial or ritual law ... Every part of this law (Ten Commandments) must remain in force upon all mankind and in all ages.’* - John Wesley, Sermons on Several Occasions, 2-Vol. Edition, Vol I, pages 221-222.
Colossians 2:16 does not refer to everyday food or drinks that we use to satisfy our hunger *but rather sanctuary service ordinances.* Thus, it is clear that the passage of Colossians 2:16 cannot be used to justify the eating of everything, especially unclean food. The 'meats' or 'drinks', as we can see from Scripture, it denotes sanctuary service ordinances that came to an end at the death of Christ. Moreover, according to Paul's words in Colossians 2:16, it is clear that the celebration of the monthly new moon festivals [see 1 Chronicles 23:31; 2 Chronicles 2:4; Nehemiah 10:33], which were also related to the sanctuary came to an end when Christ died on the cross.
In the passage above, *Paul utilizes the term 'the handwriting of ordinances' to describe the kind of law he is describing in the passage.* This key expression helps us to quickly recognise that Paul is referring to the ceremonial laws of the sanctuary. According to Paul, the ceremonial laws of the sanctuary were nailed to the cross at the death of Christ [review Matthew 27:50-51]. As a result, sanctuary service ordinances such as meats, drinks, holidays, new moons, and the *ANNUAL SABBATH DAYS* were no longer binding upon God's people. As Paul rightly put them, they were all a shadow of things to come [compare Colossians 2:15-16 with Hebrews 9:9-10].
From the book of Hebrews, Paul uses similar expressions in relation to the sanctuary service ordinances. From Hebrews 9:9-10, we read the following from the apostle Paul in relation to the sanctuary ordinances: "9:9 Which was a *FIGURE* for the time then present, in which were offered both *GIFTS AND SACRIFICES,* that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; 9:10 Which stood only in *MEATS and DRINKS, and DIVERS WASHINGS, and CARNAL ORDINANCES,* imposed on them until the time of reformation."
Can you see the similarities between the expressions used in Colossians 2:16-17 and Hebrews 9:9-10? I know you can't miss the clear similarities. You see beloved, for us to appreciate the sanctuary service terminologies that Paul utilized in His epistles to the Colossians and Hebrews, we have to go back to the Old Testament and get some clues about the sanctuary service ordinances.
From Leviticus 23:37, we read the following in relation to some of the ordinances of the sanctuary: "These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a *MEAT OFFERING, a sacrifice, and DRINK OFFERINGS,* every thing upon his day" [see also Leviticus 23:18].
*These ceremonial laws were practised long before the cross and is not part of the Moral Law/Ten Commandments of God.* - *The Sabbath days in Col. **2:16** are Ceremonial Sabbaths such as:* the Passover and the Day of Atonements and four others. [Read about the Ceremonial Sabbath: *One* Ex.12:15; Lev.23:5-7; Num.28;17-18; *Two* Ex.12:16; Num.28:24-25; *Three* Lev.23:24-25; Num. 29:1; *Four* Lev. 16:29-31; 23:27-32; Num.29:7. *Five* Lev.23:23,35; Num. 29:12. *Six* Lev.23:39; *Seven* Lev. 23:15-16,21; Deut. 16:9-10]. *As you can clearly see, these annual sabbaths fell on a different day of the week every year.*
*Ceremonial Sabbaths:*
*1.* - *Spoken by Moses* [Exodus 24:3]
*2.* - *Written by Moses hand on paper* [Exodus 24:4]
*3.* - *Stored on the outside of the Ark* [Deuteronomy 31:26]
*4.* - *These were kept because of sin* [See Leviticus]
*5.* - *They were not love* [Colossians 2:14, Galatians 4:9-10]
*6.* - *They were bondage* [Galatians 4:9-10, Colossians 2:14]
*7.* - *Were established after sin* [Exodus 20:24]
*8.* - *Were made after Sinai* [Exodus 20:24]
*9.* - *Only for the children of Israel - Jews* [Read Old Testament
*10.* - *God calls it HER sabbaths* [Hosea 2:11, Lamentations 1:7]
*11.* - *Were nailed to the cross* [Colossians 2:14, Ephesians 2:15]
Prove to me in the scripture...this exact words 👉 ceremonial law...don't add and insert your own words. Revelation warn about that don't you realised?
@@kiimahndonah did you look at the 4:59 mark?
The proof is already there.
It is not proven that Paul is a Apostle. I'll give $10,000 to anyone who can name at least 2 witnesses/companions of Paul from Acts 9, 22, or 26. Let alone explain why his story changes each time. In fact, he is the False Apostle Christ points out in Revelation 2:2. There are only 12 Apostles ; Revelation 21:14. I could go on and on. James letter is railing against the lies of Paul. The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. :: Follow Christ , The Way, Truth, Life...
Luke is a witness to Paul's many travels as he wrote in Acts. Luke also says Barnabas was his companion, another witness. And Peter speaks approvingly of Paul, even calling him "brother" (2 Peter 3:15). Please Zelle the payment to: adl.qanda@gmail.com.
Son, Second Peter was pseudo-authored in the 4th century to justify Paul. Name any witnesses along the road with Paul???? That's the question. Peter and James hated Paul and Christ condemns him in Revelation 2:2. The Sabbath is the 7th day as described 116 times in the Old Testament over 50 times in the NT, counting the Tares/Weeds if Paul's letters as planted overnight by Satan. Paul burn in Hell...... Take that to bank you arrogant putz/
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@@benadam3284why are you so against Paul? Has Paul written something that you believe is false?
Historically Paul is a major reason that the Gospel has spread around the world.
@@benadam3284Peter thought that Paul was legit. Do you disagree with Peter?
2 Peter 3:
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.