Honda CBR650R Rider Review (restricted version)
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2019
- The 2019 Honda CBR650R:
You may remember Honda's CBR650F model, well THIS!... Is the all new replacement... Doing away with the letter F and switching it with the letter R...
Now producing a whopping 70kw at the crank and slimming down from its previous 210kg to 207kg... YES that's right... it forgot to stomach its 3kg steak this morning, but no matter because this newly developed CBR has taken a giant leap to becoming one of the best beginner sports motorcycles... EVER made!!
OH WAIT!... SORRY.. sorry... this is the LAMS approved (restricted version) that pumps out 35kw of power... Yeah!
None the less here at 6Tdegrees we thought it would be best to take on the restricted CBR650R for all you potential riders out there and be the first to give you our honest opinion...
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Love the review guys. I'm no longer on my LAMS license but I definitely appreciate more companies putting more time and effort into new models to attract newer riders to the fold!
David M thank you so much
Thank you for this review, just brought a second hand 2018 CBR650F for Christmas, had 2566km on it so almost new, cheers for the vid.
Cool review, keep it up!
Such an underrated channel! Thanks for the review!
PS thank you for doing the first review of the LAMS version of this bike - first out of anyone on the internet, so far as I can tell!
Yeah we couldn’t find anything out there for riders looking into this restricted version of the CBR650R, but thank you 🙏 👍 😁 I hope you enjoyed our review
Fantastic review lads
Finally a lams review, please do the cb650r aswell. Awsome video!
brought this buy after trading in my ducati monster lams, i love this bike its so smooth, and you derestrict the bike via the airbox.... as this is one of the few lams bikes that's not throttle limited you can open it up max
I love the looks.
Just ordered one pick it up in this colour scheme on saturday, have 6 months of lams left, then it will get pipe, ecu flash and new air guides. Its a great looking bike, fitted out well looks as good as the 1000rr which is way to much power for me for half the money. Thanks for the review 6T helped with my decision
Also victorian so we have 3years on lams
90bogz is it not allowed to modify bikes while you’re on lams license? Even if the bike is lams approved
@@JamesBond-ph6hr its technically not allowed to do any performance mods at all to your bike on lams. I could do it and probably get away with it, but after buying a new bike, a car and recently moving into my first home its probably best i save some cash for it anyway :)
@@JamesBond-ph6hr bogzlr90 on insta i have some photos of her up and my other bikes ect
@@BOGZLR hey mate how did you go with the derestriction?
There's a mob in Melbourne called "Dynobike" that de-restrict these. Seems like a great choice bike for the new rider. You can ride around for the 3 years (in Victoria) on the LAMS restriction, and when you're off LAMS you can get the ECU re-flashed and the intake manifolds swapped out for $700 and pretty much end up with nearly double the horses. Like getting a whole new bike.
Just because you can de-restrict the 650R doesn't means you should. Namely because doing such comes with registration/insurance complications. Moreover it rather ruins the overall value of the bike because it's not an OEM conversion and not lawful because very few who do make that conversion ever actually spend the money to re-register the bike as being unrestricted.
@@ThermicLight I've been through this with modifying my car. There's nothing unlawful about it. Yes, you should update the LAMS status of the bike, but there's nothing illegal about modding vehicles.
I find it rather pitiful that this bike literally has half the horsepower just to appease the LAMS market. You pay for all that engine and mass to be likely beaten by a 250cc Honda from the 90's. If you "shouldn't" de-restrict this bike, then you "shouldn't" buy it.
@@SuperFrodo95 - Of course you can modify any vehicle but whether you can drive it lawfully on public roads is what matters. Besides if the process was so simple then dealers would happily do it for you. That they obviously don't shows the complications aren't worth their time.
That said I completely agree with you that it's pitiful. Thus I wouldn't even recommend it to any lams rider. Rather if Honda had any sense they would reserve the 500R for lams and leave open the 650R for those with a full license. Instead of saturating the market with another freakig lams bike.
I did not know they produce restricted version as well, spec sheet in Malaysia tells that 70kW at 12k rpm, so I am not sure if this is unrestricted version. Thank you for the educational review :D
It's mainly for Europe (and Australia) where they are limited for 2-3 years to 35kW
Hey guys, love the video. I have ordered my cbr650r and excited to take it for a spin. My question is, what’s the safest riding gear do you guys recommend to purchase for highway riding. From the helmet down to boots?
Cheers, Thommo
I just baught one in March 2021 model and I loving it . Best thing is the sound when I ride with ninja 400 and 650 guys lol . Feel like my choice was right
Got this bike 5 months now and I absolutly love it
I have an MT07. How do you find the wind protection at highway speeds?
@@colinoz how do you find the mt07 at highway speeds and over? And what about 100mph+?
Thomas it’s a great bike. Stable and handles well at highway speeds. The only annoying thing is the wind. Have to expect that on a naked. Overall happy with it, but will eventually get a supersport.
Josef Friedrich does your hands and back hurt on longer routes?
@@klemenvidovic373 on really long rides with a lot of downhill, you can have a bit of wrist soreness but generally it is okay.
great vid guys!
just got into the motorcycle scene....
chasing my first bike atm.
I've narrowed down my list to just two motorcycles. The cb400r super four ( found one near new and Abs) and the bike you guys just reviewed.
what's your thoughts of the 400 super four v the 650r????
I like hiw the super four is not restricted and also the great four cylinder sound and is a little smaller.
thoughts please gents? cheers Vince
Looks compact and stubby! Like it
My Question And Base On your Exfirience Which 1 Are D Best D CB600 Or D 650R🤔
One thing I dislike about this bike is the tail light. The rest is nice!
This vs ninja 400 ? which one would you choose.
The lack of a full power version is annoying. Middleweight bikes are a great size and not everyone wants a litre bike.
Can’t u get a full power version of factory computer and swap it over?
@@danzothetruckie6392 it’s going to be a pain in the ass to insure
Wdym lack of full power version?? This is a restricted version of a bike that normally has 90hp
One of the best honest review. Bike is getting delivered this weekend.
After 1 year plus of owning this bike. Would you go back in time and change your decision or do you love it?
I've seen videos on unrestricting it, but are actually able to unrestrict it to the full amount of power the non-restricted version has? Also wish Australia bring the unrestricted version in
Yes you can unrestrict it to the full
Amount of power
Aussie Ari, Lemmy and Spurgeon here!
What is the top list of lams motorcycles in Australia?
if the suspension was adjustble would be sooooooo worth it
I just cant unsee that rear part of the bike taken straight from the naked variant ...doesnt seem to extend far enough back ..🤷♂️
Doctor 1O1 that’s why it looks better
Gonna buy it
Nice Review , one thing its LCD and not TFT display
Honda oz lost my sale coz only offered LAMS version, really loved the bike but didnt want to go thru legalities of de-restriction. So went and bought Ninja 650 full power instead.
is restricted in Australia? what is the top speed and hp of this bike in Australia?
@@MotoMav 46hps 6 more hp then an r3 but top speed of an r3 is around 180kms where a cbr650r is 220kms but after you get your full license you can get it de-restricted unlocking its full power
@@m.a.3137 Have you derestricted it here in Australia?
НУ что! прикольно! Я как раз собрался покупать.
Can't wait for Honda to bring out the full-power version. Then I will get rid of my XSR700
What a shame this chassis only gets 35kW in Australia :(
I really hope they do! We fell in love with her 🏍💨
@@6tdegrees u can get her de-restricted for a couple hundreads dollars by a few shops around aus
@@6tdegrees The really baffling thing is that Honda didn't do a LAMS-specific restriction. They could have made it 42kW.
MT-07 is only 180kg wet and yet gets 38.2kW. CBR650R is 207kg wet but gets only 35kW (...which is the EU A2 limit). According to the LAMS formula, Honda could easily have made the Australia version 42kW, i.e. 20% more powerful, and had an equivalent power/weight (bike weight & rider weight) ratio to the MT-07.
I find it weird that Honda were so lazy about this (copy + paste EU spec), whereas Yamaha went to the lengths of sizing-down the engine and changing cam timings etc. to make a ripper LAMS bike.
emudshit SHIT YEAH!!! if you know who does chuck up a link 👍
How does it SOUND?
It must go like a bloody rocket.
To get this de-restricted you has just to change the air admission pipes(bcse they're 4/5 obstructed) and do a reprog of ECU.
or buy aluminium air admission pipes ,a full akra line(or equivalent),a bazzaz admission regulator.
hello from France and please forgive my writing fails
Sounds expensive 😥
@@nothowtoplay1557change the air intake pipes to originals(also in plastic) ask your dealer(or get on ebay) do a remaping of ecu …..done
@@nothowtoplay1557 buy a cutter knife and buy a naraku cdi on the internet for chinese stuffs!!!
Where in brisbane was this
Good review but you guys were really cocky about it being restricted. Typically guys who didn't had to start on restricted bikes and just started on a 600rr probably. I had to start on a 11 kw bike because i was 18 so a 35 kw which goes anout 120 mph isn't a slow bike. Good review but don't downgrade restricted bikes, a good rider on a 35 kw can pass a bad rider on a liter bike ;)
Motorbikes are such a good mode of transport. They are cheap to operate, easy to park & fun! I just want a bike to do the speed limit. If I want one with RR at the end of its name, and I want to race on the track, I will get one that goes faster (but I don't want to race on the streets). The less quicker I am on the street the less like it is I'll crash or, which is more likely, some other motorist will crash into me. This is a nice bike. Practical. Besides, after riding a CB125 anything is better. :D
is zx 25r coming to aus?
wade su still hasn’t been confirmed yet.
I live in the U.S. I hope you guys get to experience the ZX25r.
Has anyone had any success in unrestricting this bike?
It is illegal to de-restricted in Australia？ So do I secretly modifying it or waiting for the full power version...
Nick Hsu it is highly illegal to de-restrict a LAMS approved motorcycle but people still do it. Personally, being a bit of a rebel... I’d consider it haha.
6Tdegrees Even if i have full license？ It's hard to understand Honda's product positioning. I think cbr500 is enough as a lams...
@@6tdegrees so for you euro bros it's illegal to de restrict it right? But how the fuck are you gonna get caught? Are cops gonna pull you over and pull a Dyno out of their ass? Just curious how it's like over there cause it sounds like fun isn't permitted over there.
Daevster 666 In the UK some bikes come A2 license friendly already, so no need for restrictions. If an A2 licence holder got a CBR650R, you can get it restricted in a dealership and when you get your A licence you can easily de-restrict it.
@@MajorMuffins13 bit how do pigs know the difference for the bike is what I'm saying
good bike would buy if a unrestricted one comes
there is unrestricted cbr650r. the real unrestricted is the fireblade.
How tall os the tall guy?
What's its top speed when restricted?
121mph or so
In 2 minds at the moment. It's come down to this or the Triumph 660 Lams. Unfortunately I'm one of those blokes who left it late in life to get my Learners. (42) Any thoughts anyone?
I got my license at age 45.. that was almost 3 years ago. I bought a 2016 CBR500R and a 2000 Yamaha Fazer 600 that I customized. In January or February 2020 I'll get the new CBR650R. Im in Germany so I'm having a blast on the roads :p
Mr. H
With Honda you will never have to worry about the bike breaking down other than tires, running out of gas, or YOU causing some stupid issue....
Im tempted to sell my 2021 R3 for the 2021 cbr650r just for the 4 cylinder sound, and a proper sized bike for me to use. Am i making a good choice of an upgrade or are my reasons not worth
That R3 is basically a bicycle with a weed eater engine dump it!
@@rhys6048 Yeah so ive come to a conclusion that comments like this regarding beginner bikes arent smart to follow.
Even though my comment gave you a ridiculous path to reaching your conclusion, it is the right one. All LAMS bikes are pretty disappointing; even the unrestricted Ninja 650RL I’m starting on. Keep your money until you can ride something decent on your unconditional license.
@@rhys6048 Thats the thing, its not about riding a powerful bike, its about learning how to control it, smarter to ride a nimble un-punishing bike. Restricted rules are in place for a reason man, sad that my bike sounds dull but i understand that i gotta learn and learn before i move onto the next step or ill end up like the people who single vehicle crash.
It’s horses for courses. I had ≈2 hours riding experience before going for a highway drive where I had it pinned at 210. I was like “is that seriously it?” ahaha. I’m sure you’re the only one conscious of the sound if it’s any consolation.
You guys are funny as lmaooo
Just buy the CBR500R, better power to weight ratio, cheaper, better looking overall. Honda importers overcharged on the 650F massively and it lacked in performance. Now Honda improved performance and looks, gave it a slightly sharper price tag ... and then they decide to import the restricted version only because they want to compete with the ninja 650, that also offers a non-LAMS version. *facepalm*
Guys quick question i got the exact same bike, mine wont let me pass 6000 revs is that because of the restriction or would that be an issue with the bike?
Asherah that doesn’t sound right to me, from memory we had it well past 6000rpm
@@6tdegrees yeah wont get pass 6000 to 6500 unless im doing something wrong thats on 6th gear
Asherah what speed were you going? Because I’m pretty sure it’s restricted at 180 or less
@@6tdegrees i was at 167kms its still going up but really really slow.. and the revs wont move at all
Asherah sounds like a topend restriction from factory. You could get an ECU flash to de-restrict it but you might void your warranty.
Can I install a quickshifter and auto blimper in that CBR
Quickshifter yes, autoblipper I'm not sure
Doesn't have an auto blipper. Can only quick shift up the gears. Does have a slipper clutch though
its cheap but this bike my place double $21k👍
Just buy the full power one as standard
It’s only got restriction kit for the A2 license holders for the UK laws and other countries
clinster78 yeah it’s a shame here in Australia we don’t get the open class model
Cant u take it to a honda dealer and get the limiter off? This would be the bike i would get if i had a little more money... but yeah... ill have to go to college next year and that means ill have to move so im limited on the money part....
Ohh so in Australia u cant get it derestricted like in europe... that sucks
Shadow V. Wish we could buy the deresteictor kit from uk
U can derestricted in Australia when u finish with p plate but it will cost u $800 to change it back with 70kw
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do a cbr500 one
Why is it small and why won't it go fast?
Ej Passeos
That’s what she said.
I'm like 1.90 cm, how will be the bike for me?
I am 190-195 cm and i was pretty comfortable on this bike
The bike still gets to 116-125mph resticted
Can you remove the limiter after you reach full license?
No. The bike would become unroadworthy and void your insurance
@@gmakcon actually you can get it de-restricted just gotta call your dealership and they’ll do it for you
@@m.a.3137 yeh you can remove it. But the bike becomes unroadworthy. It makes no sense I know. It’s easy to do but not worth being in-insured if they find out
@@gmakcon man the road rules here are fucken dumb man honestly I thought as soon as you get your fulls you can actually get it de restricted and tell the rms but once you do that you can never go back and lose value on the bike
@@m.a.3137 yup. Sucks. Better to sell the bike and buy the unrestricted. Absolute joke! But the last thing u wanna do is ride a bike that isn’t road worthy.
3:07 I'm not going to go fast on any bike outside of Germany.... Ha ha. I lived in the NT.... You're not going fast on that island.
This bike is AUD 18293 in Ireland.
William Flynn WHAT!!! 18,000$
@@6tdegrees yup, see for it yourself, 10,000 euro is 18293 dollars, this is why I'm moving to australia soon. Not only that but I can't even get insurance on it until I'm 23! megabikes.ie/2019-honda-cbr650r-a
It sucks that you cant rev it up enough to enjoy that 4 cylinder sound. Makes it Redundant really. They need to change the laws so Bikes can be derestricted when you get the full licence.
Wait, so you can't buy this and unrestricted it after you finish your Ls?
Its actually illegal to derestrict a LAMS approved bike, even if youre off you RE licence 😒 unless you have requested a manufacture representative to derestrict the bike.
Forms will need to be filled out by a dealer stating that it has been a approved for derestriction.
@@6tdegrees That's kinda insane. I don't want a super powerful bike, just something like a powerful 650.
Then I could carry it though from Ls to full. The Honda seemed like a no brainer because most of the power was in the top end so you could still learn on it.
I guess that's not an option here. I feel like I'm being forced to buy a small bike to lose money on when I sell it to get one that fits better.
Feels bad man. I'd rather have the option to buy a bike to unrestrict later and keep the bike I fell in love with riding on.
@@dragonling748 yeah its a total pain!
However (you didnt hear this from me) the aprilia RS660 LAMS only has a map restriction.
You can buy a plug in system called the UPmap and download from your phone and link via bluetooth to upload the open class map.
At anytime you choose to sell the bike, you can re-upload the restricted map.
@@6tdegrees That is one nice bike!
Whats the difference when you compare this bike with 600rr performance-wise?
sunger bob the 600 is much quicker. Especially at the top end the 600 will walk away. Motorcycle displacement isn't that important.
It's about weight, engine compression & tuning
The 600 is a super sport. The 650 is a sport touring
@@Braselton21 thank you. What does it mean top end?
@@sungerbob1786 higher speeds
can this be unrestricted once you're free to go nuts? haha
Mine got restricted to an "A2 licence" with a restrictor kit, any honda dealership simply can take it off if you got the right licence for it :D
You people live in fascist states....
In belgium we just have it restricted on paper, but almost any dealer will open her up to full power, for the right price ofcourse lol
Technically yes. You can have it derestricted by a dealer and reregistered as an R class motorcycle, but I don’t know which states it’s legal in or if you can do it in any state. It’ll cost a couple grand though. If you do it yourself, it’ll be considered unroadworthy and if you’re ever in an accident you’ll be on the hook for all property and bodily damages, and your insurance won’t cover you.
Probably should get CBR500R instead, cheaper and good enough, paying for price of a full sized bike with downtuned engine is not wise.
can't beat the sound of the inline 4 tho
Full power???
How much power do you need to have fun?
That's my cuestión
Oh i forgot
To many valentinos Rossi and Marc Márquez in the streets
And then yeah
U guys need full power
Ha....
The more the power the better.
because 35 KW in a 200 KG bike is slow. yes we do need a full power version. the power isn't decreased by 20% or something it is halved
@@basuo8378 yeah its pretty sad how a ninja 400 is faster than this when its restricted.
@@hingholo8027 bro my ninja 300 is faster. it weighs 40 less KG ( 20% less) but the cbr650r only has 6-7 more hp then my bike
@@basuo8378 yeah I got a 400 ninja and its sad to see a 650cc inline 4 choked up.
seems everything except a 1000rr is a 'lams; bike
Wtf is a restricted version anyway? What's the point of doing that?
Obviously for people on a restricted licence. Different states have different periods of time that you need to be on your restricted licence, WA is two years before you can go for your unrestricted licence. These 650’s are restricted to be legal for people on their R-E licence.
95BHP
No, not this bike.
Short geared?……..?……what
It is in comparison to a 600cc sportsbike
Suck an awesome bike. That TFT display ... it's a fucken abomination. Give me the F version display any day.
Ewww what tail tidy is that? The bank end is rank
You cant speed in Australia, once caught they will label you as bad attitude..