Jiu-Jitsu Self-Defense | Standing Guillotine Choke Counter
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2019
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The guillotine choke is an extremely dangerous move that people are factory installed with. It is in the same family as the headlock, but because it has more of a tendency to be an actual choke, it is urgent that you defend it intelligently and immediately.
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I'm in a military college and we always have little mma match ups, every single fight ends up in a guillotine choke because they think that always works, I needed this so I can beat everyone there, this was the thing I always lose to, I do mma at the moment and losing to a guillotine is dreadful, thanks for the help!
that only works vs new people, another similar trained individual, once they have the choke on you it's game over. Hence instructor say this is for beginner self-defense, "I don't want to get to this position in the first place". The only person that got away from this in a real match vs another pro is khabib, and that was a dangerous moment even for him. So think about that.
Watching this while in a guillotine choke😂 Thanks Eli!
Eli I really love your videos. You’re a humble man and watching your videos after work is very soothing/satisfying :)
Love from Australia bro
Thank you so much for saying that. I really appreciate that. 🇦🇺 ❤️
Wooo that was good! Very detailed and easy to follow. Nice!
I've been taught after the knee clip with the arm over, to reach out and find the floor/ground/pavement etc as to not smash your elbow upon landing and get your arm pinned behind the head. Just a little detail I've seen. Nice technique. Love your vids. I can definitely see the lineage.
Simple and clear big up bro oss
Great video. Gonna try it next time - if I can keep my composure, remember it all, and not have to tap out!
Also, really simple, good demo of the Von Flue choke. Thanks.
Love your videos man.
good technique to practice !, one more that adds to the history. Excellent video congratulations, greetings from Argentina!
It's such a crazy coincidence that you uploaded this video yesterday, because yesterday I was at a seminar given by Bob Bass, and he gave a couple cool details on getting a really strong standing guillotine. Now I have a cool defense to compliment the attack! 😁
Knight Jiu Jitsu just gives amazing technical content. Really appreciate it!
Thank you! I appreciate it.
sick edit man!!
Very good.
Great video sir!
Thank you, 🖒👍nice choke
I encounter your videos in the last days, its amazing, congratulations. I am Celso, São Borja City, from Brazil
i havent seen that in other videos....Great Job
Super film 👍
Thanks! I actually got caught with this today then tried to pull the arm down and got to half mount but my partner was able to finish it. I should have used the shoulder hold to take side control.
Thank you ❤
Good stuff.
Haha. A factory installed submission. Nice. I love the self defense inspired videos!
That’s what I always refer to those instinctive grappling moves that no one actually has to learn 🤣
Good job
You guys teach better than most gyms I've been to. Almost a blue belt and am struggling to find a healthy MMA school
God I wish I had known this before competing yesterday lol
Brother, is really fantastic. Congratulations.👏👏👏
Thank you so much 🙏
Eli, I really appreciate moments like 1:20 where you clarify any alternatives if there is no material you’re able to get a grip on. I always wonder in other people’s demos what the alternatives are and you almost ALWAYS address them all in the same video/motion.
Thanks for everything you do for the community. It’s always dope, technique focused, easy to understand and the fact that you frequently highlight gi/no-gi alternatives makes it even better.
Thanks for recognizing that! I appreciate it. I’ve just gotten enough questions like that over the years that I always try to mention it. Top questions always on videos:
“Can you do this without the gi?”
“What if he’s punching you in the face?”
😊
Real deal right there!
Sensei said people come with the guillotine choke factory installed in the video's description 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sweet!!! I haven't seen this one yet!!
It’s money! High percentage escape right here.
This really does work I just did tried this with my son :)
RIP son
Classic standing guillotine defense - it’s a thing of beauty. I couldn’t forget that if I wanted to.
Same here. All it takes is getting a tight guillotine slapped on you from standing and this one becomes ingrained in memory.
Show!
That choke you done in defense is so sweet. Saw a few mma ufc guys using it and winning with it. Nice! Couldn't find any other video on here showing how to get there there the guillotine. Cheers
From the guillotine*
Thank you for that comment. I’m glad you liked it.
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great 👍🏼 stuff, per usual. Sometimes I have trouble clamping the hands together on the Von Flue Choke against bigger opponents - any recommendations?
If it's in the gi, then you can just supplant the Gable grip with clothing grips, but if it is no gi, sometimes grabbing the choking arm's tricep with your bottom arm can work too.
Knight Jiu-Jitsu excellent - thanks 🙏
Nice and easy. The escape I know and train. I have a doubt that need your answer. Can you escape the choke also making some sort of duck under by the side of the arm that is choking you? (I hope you understand what I am saying. You can see this kind of escape in some jujitsu/seld defense channels)
Definitely. It requires some speed and explosiveness but it can be very successful. Conor McGregor used something similar against Nate Diaz at one point.
Somebody please tell me the song in the beginning of the video.
Hey Eli, what do you do if the opponent is much taller and you can't latch over top like that?
The Von Flue is one of my favourite beginner submissions because the partner doesn't know he is in such a bad position when he is holding your head, you can finish a drill in seconds by giving a standing guilotine wich is your bait in reality.
On the other hand it is a bit of dangerous to do it because the partners hands are trapped and you might not feel the tap.
So it is wiser to stop and show him how he would have lost.
Thanks! I usually get that lifting type action to tighten, but 1 taller guy gets the guillotine and then jumps to guard and then immediately arches hard. It seems a bit of a bully move, but it is still embarrassing to tap given the experience difference. I feel like I could maybe weather it and work my way out, but often tap for fear of injury. Any tips for when they immediately jump guard after getting the guillotine to at least buy some time vs. a stronger opponent?
Thanks for the comment and question. This defense is much more suited to someone trying to finish from standing and honestly a less technical person. If the person is giving energy and posture to make you think they may jump guard then it’s better to monitor the hips instead. The defense and escape strategy changes, but their posture should indicate their intention on how they plan to finish the choke.
Von flue 👍👍
what if he have you in the guillotine and jumps guard while standing? in a street fight, you just slam him to the ground, but how do you prevent your head from hitting the ground too?
awesome, they got a guillotine on me during a competition as i went for the single leg, able to escape but still its a spot im all too familiar with.
Would the defense be the same if the person is taller?
in regards to the von flue, i can always get it, but i do have some trouble when they manage to slide a knee shield in, is that more because I am too low or because I am not following the person as they reattempt guard? maybe both?
awesome videos, thank you helps a lot!
Thank you.
For a taller person, it’s the same. I teach this to kids all the time and they can do it pretty well even at a pretty big disparity in size.
By knee shield, do you mean top or bottom knee? It sounds like you’re describing the bottom knee, but knee shield typically refers to the top, or far side knee. If it is the bottom knee, from their attempt to reguard, it’s not that big of an issue. There are some great examples of this being applied successfully from half guard. Braulio Estima and Vincent St Prieux are both great MMA examples I can think off the top of my head of finishing the Von Flue from half guard.
Hope this helps.
@@KnightJiuJitsu awesome, thank you , you are correct its the bottom knee, i thought it was the top knee, will keep training thanks!
👍👍👏👏👌👌
As they change in to grab your abdominal region, I always find a hard. Knee to the chin to break up the attempt of the grabbing
what if instead pulling upwards he goes down and pull guard, what should i do then?
I have another video on defending guillotine from the guard.
@@KnightJiuJitsu could you link it to me pls, since im not able to find it,thx
Yeah but what if you can't reach around the person's shoulder? (Short arms and the person is a bit taller)
I got a quick question: anytime I try some escapes, my training partners do the same thing (they basically body lock putting all of their weight on my back and they just proceed to slam me). I tried to break their grip, but they're too strong. I tried to get lower and then go for a single leg, they sprawl and spin on my back. Do you have any advice on how to get rid of this annoying problem? Thank you very much!
It depends on the specific conditions and escapes you’re trying from what types of holds, but I have a few videos on front grand rear grabs that may be helpful.
@@KnightJiuJitsu thank you so much sir
How about when they have a high elbow guillotine from standing and you can't get your arm over the shoulder?
I tend to get stuck in that one more often.
That’s way harder to defend but it’s possible. Hard to describe here, but you still have to follow the choking arm and the connection.
What about Ura Nage?
The guillotine breaks your posture too much for a good ura nage. If they aren’t very strong in their control there is a Te Garuma type pickup from there though.
How can I do this No gi
It doesn’t require the gi
Would the same technique be applied if the opponent was much taller?
This can be done on a taller opponent due to them having to lean over to apply the choke. That puts them within reach of allowing this counter to work.
@@KnightJiuJitsu thanks so much! The wife and I enjoy your videos. They are helping us on our bjj journey together, keep up the great work!
JESUS smooth escapes great 👍🏾 practicality ✝️
That armdrape leads to a cow catcher counter.
Yep. I have another video on that exact thing 👍
Thanks! My grandma doesn’t stand a chance
Such dangerous skills can very easily fall into the wrong hands.
Not without training they can’t.
You don’t have the time nor the strength. You should never get to the ground in a street fight!
Haha. Thanks 👍
You nuts are open to be destroyed. No need for the complications.
Pmpbreeze Ogah not in a match, but in street, yes. Grab em, squeeze and rip down. Don’t let go until they throw up. Keep in mind that these ju jitsu guys have their own moves for the street too.. so... you or I may grab their groin, meanwhile they might have our eyeball? . ✌️👊🙏
Hitting or grabbing someone’s balls from there allows them to choke without restriction. That won’t stop them from choking you.
That choke will put you to sleep before they are in enough pain to let go. It’s safer to technically defend and escape.
Knight Jiu-Jitsu i’m not about to test it out, for either side. ✌️👊🙏
There are so many other faster and easier ways to escape the guillotine than this.
Ok. Show me tonight at class then.