Cine lenses have a glitch or defect, a grain to the image which gives it a beautiful distortion to the lighting in the image. Which is somehow adorable to human eyes. Not just the bokeh overall it has a mild glitch and rich creamyness to the image. Its just adorable for some reason.
My opinion is I’m not interested in sharpness and clarity as I don’t print my work, I’m more interinterested in the overall side by side of the two to feel if there is a difference
I have both cinema lens and camera lens. Was thinking of making a video of how both would be like side by side covering 16mm to 85mm primes and cine lenses of the same focal length paired with dji Ronin 4 with focus assist for cine lens to have a precise distinction for both do in photography and video. :)
yo! did you buy a cinema lens and did try it for astrophotography. iff so how was it and did it work ok? im meby going for it but wonna find som more info befor buying =)
Too expensive for me. My solution would be something vintage like the Meyer Optik Gorlitz 'Oreston' 50mm f1.8 with the aperture ring 'de-clicked'. I picked one up, on an Exakta RTL1000 body,for just £50 (US $63).
Glad to see your video because I'm planning to upgrade my lens. Now, I think it is better to jump into cinema lens since the sharpness is pretty amazing
Thanks! Every cinema lens is going to be different in terms of sharpness. Some films want softer looks, so they’ll use various lenses to achieve that softness. Overall the canon glass is very sharp!
I found it difficult to use as comparrison reference since the picture witch wasnt compared the same... too many differendt variables. Comparing a picture that was not madniffied and then magnify and not do the same for the other photos.. just spins my brain... i would have liked seeing all images not magnified and compared and then a magnified comparison... or something consistant like that...
@@johnadams3038 Yeah, but I've seen videos in which the cinema lens completely transforms the image. Some cinema lenses will add a certain tint and color contrast to the image that looks completely different from photography lenses. An example is vintage lenses.
I can't seem to get an answer from anyone on if the focus guides will work on cinema lenses that have no contacts (fully manual)... like any other brand except for Canon? Have you ever tried a 3rd party Cinema lens to know if the focus guides work? It's just pointing to an object in frame and letting you know if that distance is in focus... I'm not sure why it wouldn't work, but I need to know if the focus guide is just a gimmick in actual use because most people don't shoot Canon Cinema lenses.
I’m not fully sure myself. If there are no contacts visible on the lens, then I would assume no. I was actually surprised the focus guides worked when I attached it to the R6 mkII. If I get my hands on other 3rd party lenses, I’ll let you know. Was there a specific cinema lens you’re referring to?
Good question! Many camera bodies today have a feature know as focus peaking. The camera detects edges that will have a high contrast and highlights them with colors such as red or green. This is how cinema lenses are spot on with focus and because the focus is controlled manually, you can use focus peaking to determine how far of a rotation you need to turn the focus wheel if you’re trying to pan focus back and fourth between subjects.
focus peaking is definitely one very popular way to do it but there are also other ways like false color overlays that highlight out of focus areas in different colours depending on how strongly and in which direction they are out of focus. also tbh eyeballing can be done and works much better than it does in photography. first of all its not as important to have focus in the exact right spot in video. faces shifting in and out of focus a little bit can even look good on video. another aspect is that video is often shot in 4k (although this is less true for large productions nowadays 6k and 8k are quite common in those now). 4k is about 8 megapixels so there is less sharpness required than on a photo with 20-50 megapixels. in video eyeballing also tends to work better because videographers often use larger and higher resolution external monitors and not just the camera display.
Television in the late 1980s through mid 1990s, handheld efp we eyeballed. If off noticeably the director would call "handheld rack focus (near/far, depending)". Shooting eng, sometimes Canon style center ball guide, mostly eyeball though, you know your glass like your own eyes.
I have just bought a cine-lens, IRIX 21mm to my Canon EOS R6 Mark II. However, my camera won´t take any picture or even make a video. I guess there should be some kind of settings, but what settings should i do to be able to use my cine-lens? With an ordinary Canon lens there is not any problem at all to take pictures or make a video. Does anyone have a tip what i should do, maybe what kind of settings?
Hello, there are already film lenses for 500 euros. Can you tell me if they are better for photography as well as film? If so, what are they better at? I want to buy it, but I don't know if it's worth it. Well thank you!
Hey! Cinema lenses are designed mainly for video and not photography. It’s not to say you can’t use it for both, but it has its limitations for sure. I tried it to see what kind of results I’d get and they were good, but I would personally stick with using cinema lenses for video only. Hope this helps!
Yep. The lens is the most important. Cine lenses usually have a longer focus throw which makes manual focusing easier + ridges on the focus ring to attach to a follow focus system. You can buy attachment rings with ridges for any lens though.
I ended up using my second cine lens as a photo lens on my cheapo b cam, totally overkill - but mainly because despite the price of a cine lens, it’s still cheaper than a cine lens + photo lens. Also lets me change t stops on the lens itself instead of the awkward touch screen and also kind of neat for scouting a spot, you can match settings later when you bring the cine body around I suppose
Cine lenses have a glitch or defect, a grain to the image which gives it a beautiful distortion to the lighting in the image. Which is somehow adorable to human eyes. Not just the bokeh overall it has a mild glitch and rich creamyness to the image. Its just adorable for some reason.
My opinion is I’m not interested in sharpness and clarity as I don’t print my work, I’m more interinterested in the overall side by side of the two to feel if there is a difference
I was expecting that as well.
the character of that cine lens is delicious
Interesting. Learned a lot about the cinema lens. Thanks.
I love that cinema lens!
Me too!
I have both cinema lens and camera lens. Was thinking of making a video of how both would be like side by side covering 16mm to 85mm primes and cine lenses of the same focal length paired with dji Ronin 4 with focus assist for cine lens to have a precise distinction for both do in photography and video. :)
you should make it
Glad to hear! Thanks very much!
I feel that the cine lens has a more noticable fringing than the RF lens. Both still beautiful lens though.
It’s very little, but thanks for noticing! You spotted it better than me!
Great video. I'm planning buy a cinema lens to video and eventually make astrophotography
yo! did you buy a cinema lens and did try it for astrophotography. iff so how was it and did it work ok? im meby going for it but wonna find som more info befor buying =)
Too expensive for me.
My solution would be something vintage like the Meyer Optik Gorlitz 'Oreston' 50mm f1.8 with the aperture ring 'de-clicked'. I picked one up, on an Exakta RTL1000 body,for just £50 (US $63).
My Nikon D750 shows a dot in the lower left part of the screen when the subject is in focus, which is very helpful with manual focus lenses.
Glad to see your video because I'm planning to upgrade my lens. Now, I think it is better to jump into cinema lens since the sharpness is pretty amazing
Thanks! Every cinema lens is going to be different in terms of sharpness. Some films want softer looks, so they’ll use various lenses to achieve that softness. Overall the canon glass is very sharp!
I found it difficult to use as comparrison reference since the picture witch wasnt compared the same... too many differendt variables. Comparing a picture that was not madniffied and then magnify and not do the same for the other photos.. just spins my brain... i would have liked seeing all images not magnified and compared and then a magnified comparison... or something consistant like that...
Guys am I loosing it or are these pictures literally different just because of the glass? 😂
fr they look same lol
@@johnadams3038 Yeah, but I've seen videos in which the cinema lens completely transforms the image. Some cinema lenses will add a certain tint and color contrast to the image that looks completely different from photography lenses. An example is vintage lenses.
Great video!
Thank you!
I can't seem to get an answer from anyone on if the focus guides will work on cinema lenses that have no contacts (fully manual)... like any other brand except for Canon? Have you ever tried a 3rd party Cinema lens to know if the focus guides work? It's just pointing to an object in frame and letting you know if that distance is in focus... I'm not sure why it wouldn't work, but I need to know if the focus guide is just a gimmick in actual use because most people don't shoot Canon Cinema lenses.
I’m not fully sure myself. If there are no contacts visible on the lens, then I would assume no. I was actually surprised the focus guides worked when I attached it to the R6 mkII. If I get my hands on other 3rd party lenses, I’ll let you know. Was there a specific cinema lens you’re referring to?
So would the transmission of light factor on the cinema lenses help me in astrophotography ?
Vine lense is cool but just for pics nah.. unless you’re shooting prograde productions, not a rational purchase
Wait so in video if there is no auto focus how do they know for sure that their focus is spot on ? Are they just eyeballing it?
Good question! Many camera bodies today have a feature know as focus peaking. The camera detects edges that will have a high contrast and highlights them with colors such as red or green. This is how cinema lenses are spot on with focus and because the focus is controlled manually, you can use focus peaking to determine how far of a rotation you need to turn the focus wheel if you’re trying to pan focus back and fourth between subjects.
focus peaking is definitely one very popular way to do it but there are also other ways like false color overlays that highlight out of focus areas in different colours depending on how strongly and in which direction they are out of focus. also tbh eyeballing can be done and works much better than it does in photography. first of all its not as important to have focus in the exact right spot in video. faces shifting in and out of focus a little bit can even look good on video. another aspect is that video is often shot in 4k (although this is less true for large productions nowadays 6k and 8k are quite common in those now). 4k is about 8 megapixels so there is less sharpness required than on a photo with 20-50 megapixels. in video eyeballing also tends to work better because videographers often use larger and higher resolution external monitors and not just the camera display.
Television in the late 1980s through mid 1990s, handheld efp we eyeballed. If off noticeably the director would call "handheld rack focus (near/far, depending)". Shooting eng, sometimes Canon style center ball guide, mostly eyeball though, you know your glass like your own eyes.
Not really. Since nearly all have no contacts, it seems like a weird tool to develop if it only works on 1 brand of lens...
Eyy love your videos, im doing similar stuff to you, (just checked out your channel), hope we get monestised soon 😅
That’s awesome! Keep up the good work and thanks for your feedback! Just subscribed to you!
I have just bought a cine-lens, IRIX 21mm to my Canon EOS R6 Mark II. However, my camera won´t take any picture or even make a video. I guess there should be some kind of settings, but what settings should i do to be able to use my cine-lens? With an ordinary Canon lens there is not any problem at all to take pictures or make a video. Does anyone have a tip what i should do, maybe what kind of settings?
Custom settings >- take photos without a card
Hello, there are already film lenses for 500 euros. Can you tell me if they are better for photography as well as film? If so, what are they better at? I want to buy it, but I don't know if it's worth it. Well thank you!
Hey! Cinema lenses are designed mainly for video and not photography. It’s not to say you can’t use it for both, but it has its limitations for sure. I tried it to see what kind of results I’d get and they were good, but I would personally stick with using cinema lenses for video only. Hope this helps!
Is it possible to use a follow focus on a still's camera?
Yep. The lens is the most important. Cine lenses usually have a longer focus throw which makes manual focusing easier + ridges on the focus ring to attach to a follow focus system. You can buy attachment rings with ridges for any lens though.
Cine Lens >
I ended up using my second cine lens as a photo lens on my cheapo b cam, totally overkill - but mainly because despite the price of a cine lens, it’s still cheaper than a cine lens + photo lens. Also lets me change t stops on the lens itself instead of the awkward touch screen and also kind of neat for scouting a spot, you can match settings later when you bring the cine body around I suppose